U.S.S. Samuel B Roberts: The World's Incredible Deepest Shipwreck
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Simon we need DTU March 8 1994 Michigan Please make it happen
Please make a video on the camera men and video teams in the ww2 and other wars. 😊
careful with Warthunder, it's Russian and some updates have fired off antivirus like crazy
@@sbanim Not like US is any better with it's history of "snoopy" with peoples information from programs huh...
My Great Uncle served on the USS Samuel B Roberts! He was a cook and after the ship sank, he could hear the people screaming, because they were being attacked by sharks. He was rescued after 2 nights on the open waves, he became a fry cook after the war and I hope he found peace wherever he may be now.
That’s An amazing story! Thanks for sharing!
Cooks always survive 😂
@@Aloh-od3ef not always, unfortunately.
Harold it's an old joke since some of the worst disasters in history the cook always survived. Titanic, Olympic, okc bombing a few uboats etc. Too many cases to cover. Hence why it's always joked about
@@ScootsMcPoot ah, I get it now
This story hits home* they were rescuing my grandpa, my great grandpa saved captain Halsey from a sinking ship in WW1. I got to meet his son a couple years back.
Wow talk about a story to tell. I hope your family writes a book about it. The world would love to know.
Hell yeah. I got to go on a tiger cruise on the USS Halsey back in 2012, the ship named after that Halsey.
Man, next to heavy bombers, a ship sounds like one of the most terrifying places to be during a battle in WW2. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide, your outcome totally out of your control as an individual. The thought of helplessly sinking over 20,000 feet below the water is absolutely haunting.
I'd take both over being in a submarine.
@@terrynixon2758 Agreed. My dad did that for Navy during cold war 70's. I just deployed on an aircraft carrior. Safest place in the world. 😀
Sammy B became a submarine though @@terrynixon2758
Submarines depressurize super quickly when ruptured. It’s not minutes or hours of suffering, it’s water moving at damn near the speed of sound crushing the can from one side to the other. You’d never know what hit ya.
I’m a civilian, so not trying to ‘splain’ to someone who knows more then me, but I think most ppl think submarine’s slowly fill with water when damaged.
I was naval aviation.
Imagine being on a helicopter and watching your ship go down. You can’t pick up all of the survivors, you can’t land if the swells are over about 6’ and if you hoist survivors up, you risk running out of fuel before getting over land. Even if other ships in your group survive, rendering aid to sailors in the water could hamper damage control work on them.
You have no idea how terrifying it is to think about that situation. And people wonder why I don’t sleep much…
I never get tired of hearing about The Battle off Samar and Taffy-3. You have to be one helluva captain to not only decide to take your ship and crew into the lion's den to pry its mouth open and kick out its teeth, but to also have the crew largely rallying behind the effort while knowing they are most certainly going to die. "We will do what we can." Fight to the last breath. Hard to comprehend in this day that is so far removed from such awesomeness.
And EVERY destroyer in the escort took part in this action. Johnston and Roberts take special note for their actions, but Hoel, Heermann, Dennis, Raymond and John C Butler all served gallantly to defend the carriers and Marine transports. As did the 400 odd pilots who kept launching, dropping bombs, then landing to be rearmed on whatever deck they could find, something that you'd normally get laughed at and ridiculed for doing as a pilot.
@@ThePhengophobe It would take nothing less to defeat an enemy where every man would willingly die with honor rather than surrender. That was why the Japanese were such formidable enemies.
That kind of bravery and commitment blows my mind, I wish I could say I’d do it and I love my country but I just don’t know, I know it’s all they knew and what they had to do but it still amazes me the type of men we had back then compared to today and what we are left with
Awesomeness? You are a very twisted human being for wanting life to be like WW2.
@@kevinmyers440 I honestly wish I was born back in there times I grew up with my grampa he was a Navy medic he survived the war he did not like talking about it much I can understand why but as a kid he the one who got me interested in The Shows Dogfights,Battle 360,Tank 360 he got me into history and I really do Enjoy it I tried signing up but they told me because of medical issues that I have I can't join I really wanted to follow in his footsteps but because of all the rules and regulations nowadays I can't
Ah yes, the Samuel B Roberts, also known as the world's only John C. Butler-class battleship.
And even better the ship and the person were she was named after did the same thing.
Protecting and defending the marines under impossible odds!
Hmmm, surely it could've just been called the John C. Butler If it was the only one of its class! Apologies for such a tacky comment!
@@obelic71 Apparently Samuel Roberts brother was actually onboard the Sammy B. He survived the battle as far as I know
Legends says the ship sank so far down because with its damage, it couldn't handle the sheer weight of Captain Evans's balls or his crews.
@@alaneskew2664 wrong ship that was the uss Johnston
The Battle of Samar proves that with good crews, determined captains a small force can be decisive.
USS Johnston is down there.
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Some say she is keeping Kthulu in his place.
Drachnifel has covered the battle in great detail in multiple videos.
Don't forget an enemy lacking proper information and understanding of whats going on.
Forgive me being pedantic, but it's the Battle Off Samar.
@@RobertIsrael Yes you are correct.
Good vid....but a correction. The Roberts was not a destroyer...she was a destroyer ESCORT. She was not a heavily armed nor displaced as much as a destroyer like the Johnston....her job was to protect the destroyers while THEY went after subs and the like.
The Roberts had even less business getting into a fight with cruisers and battleships...but there's a reason she;s kn own in US Navy lore as "The destroyer escort that fought like a battleship."
more like destroyers are designed for escorting navies capital ships and participate in battles with said naval force it escorts while destroyer escorts are designed to escort convoys that transports cargo, cargo ships like the numerously produced liberty class ships, didnt need high top speed since the cargo ships didnt have a high top speed either.
all a destroyer escort needed was sonar/hydrophone, a few deck guns for aa and anti-ship purpose in case of air attacks or torpedo boats, and also needed asw weaponry be it depth charge projectors or hedgehog depth charge mortars or stern mounted depth charge racks
The video understates the meaning of these ships. The Battle off Samar was one of the most remarkable naval victories in the history of warfare. People blather on endlessly about heroism to the point where the concept is devalued - if you want a genuine example, it's the actions of the Johnston and the Samuel B. Roberts. Against all odds hardly begins to describe the situation they were in, yet the Johnston's captain immediately attacked, head-on and at flank speed, a good fraction of the entire Japanese Navy. The commander of the Roberts announced to the ship that they were headed towards a battle from which survival could not be expected - and then went all in. There is a reason that these ships and their commanders and sailors are among the most hallowed in the annals of the US Navy - they gave everything they had, and their sacrifice turned away what should have been a devastating Japanese victory.
@@cv990a4 Simon Whistler's videos are full of inaccuracies and bad info in general, he called the F-111 bad and did a video slandering the F-35, then after Lazerpig's video did one saying "hey it's pretty good." There's also the fact that the ship in the thumbnail is the wrong Sammy B by about 40 years 😒
@@IgnoredAdviceProductions But he has an authoritative British accent, so he must be right! 🙂
@@cv990a4 That's how it works on the internet lol
The thumbnail has the wrong ship on it. The shipwrecked USS Samuel B. Roberts (DE-413) that the vid is talking about was a destroyer escort from WWII. The thumbnail has USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) - a guided missile frigate from the 1980s. The pic itself is probably of FFG-58's decommissioning in 2015.
Yes. Annoying!
That picture is from when she struck an Iranian mine, and was being transported back to the US
My department head from when I served went on to become captain of the FFG in the thumbnail.
The Battle off Samar is easily probably the United States Navy's finest hour. Reading anything about the battle is almost impossible to believe that any of it actually happened.
Yes, Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors, is an excellent and accurate account of this battle.
I'm a retired navy Chief (and proud Tin Can sailor) and I've been in awe of the men of Taffy 3 since I first heard the story many years ago.
Bravery is way too inadequate a word to describe these iron men with hearts of oak.
I believe that Yamato alone displaced more that the combined displacement of Taffy 3. Incredible display by the US Navy that day. BZ!
That’s like, most of the pacific war. Probably my most “holy shit that happened?” Was one dude in an SBD got in a dogfight with like 3 zeros.
He won.
The Navy unsurprisingly put in in a Hellcat.
Where he would shoot down another seven zeros in a single day.
Then there’s the USS Laffy. Fought off an entire kamikaze force. And the Captain when told “hey, we’ve taken some damage, the aft section is burning, and we can’t turn anymore. We should leave.”
In response the Captain said “I’m not going to abandon ship so long as one gun can still fire.”
Taffy 3 performed exceptionally and deserves all the praise but hard to call it the finest hour when Halsey's bull headed stupidity is what caused it all in the first place.
@@wingracer1614 It's Taffy 3's finest hour; I think that is something we can all agree with. 🙂
Commander Ernest Evans, captain of the Johnston, was 3/4 Cherokee from Oklahoma. Upon taking command of the Johnston, he warned his crew that it was "a fighting ship" that "would go in harm's way." He died in the battle.
When he gave the order to overcharge the boilers to give them a little more speed the ship's engineer said, "the engines won't be working after 45 minutes of this." To which Cmdr Evans replied "I don't expect to be afloat that long." (Paraphrased)
The man was possessed by the spirit of John Paul Jones.
A wonderful video of the ships, the battle, and our work to find the Johnston and Sammy B. It was a team effort. Thank you for making such a great video.
One of the main reasons we searched for the wrecks and were happy to discover them was that it gave us the opportunity to retell their heroic stories to those who may have never heard them. The memory of their sacrifice and demonstrations of self-sacrifice cannot be forgotten. Thank you for helping us do that with such a high quality video.
With respect,
Victor Vescovo
I have so much respect for you, sir. You deserve a medal and have the gratitude of everyone who remains interested in these fascinating conflicts. Your hard work and discoveries have etched your and your team members' names into history and you've made this 27 year old naval history aficionado super chuffed. 😁 Thank you for your efforts to honor those brave seamen.
I am hopeful that you can locate the Gambier Bay Im not sure if there's enough of the Hoel to locate her.
The Taffy groups were crazy brave! I highly recommend the video that Drachinifel did on the Battle of Samar.
That is a great video. Also the book The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors is a good telling of their story.
@@distracting_games And if you're going to read Last Stand, might as well pickup Neptune's Inferno and The Fleet at Flood Tide, both by the same author [James Hornfischer]. Flood Tide is about the USN coming into its apex during the Saipan campaign, and Neptune's Inferno is about the slugfest of the naval battle of Guadalcanal. I swear, I had the hair on the back of my neck standing up when reading about Savo and the night battles.
Odds? What are those!?
I have been on cruises and you feel so insignificant standing on the deck with nothing but water as far as you can see. Just the thought of being on a battleship in the middle of a war makes my heart skip a beat. These men were so brave, all of them. My dad was in the USAAC, in the Aleutian Islands.
Its a small ship, not a battleship.
@@raywhitehead730 Granted honorary status as a battleship. I served aboard USS Missouri 1985 to 1989 and have no problem with that ship's promotion to BB 413.
Nobody remembers the Aleutian campaign, but I very much want to go to Attu one day.
To give Admiral Kurita his due, or at least a break, he'd had a really rough 36 hours. First, his flagship was sunk by a submarine of Palawan, going down so fast he had to swim for it. Another heavy cruiser also sank, and a third was so badly damaged as to be out of the war.
Next day, his force came under heavy air attack. Battleship Musashi, sister to Yamato, sunk and Yamato herself, Kurita's new flagship, significantly damaged and down by the bow.
Next, let's transit the narrow San Bernardino Strait at night, single file, not knowing what might be waiting for us at the other end.
Whew, made it through. And Halsey's taken the bait! Just some destroyers and little carriers! Who proceed to sink three heavy cruisers and cripple another, while causing Yamato to flee for ten miles avoiding torpedoes. I don't blame him much for turning back.
A break? Sounds to me like he was utterly incompetent and survived only through sheer luck.
except for he thought it was Halsey's Third fleet
Yeah, Kurita had a pretty rough week. Except he didn’t think he just came across a few destroyers. He thought he’d stumbled into third fleet. The. Watched in horror as two little destroyers harassed his fleet, one literally dunking on much larger ships for about an hour before going down. So he was probably on the bridge going “well, that was embarrassing. We don’t stand a chance against Halsey do we?” Then we ordered a retreat.
When one has radar and the other don't
@@SkunkApe407 From what I've read, it was more he believed the war was lost and was unwilling to throw the lives of his men away for a group of men's honor who were sitting in Tokyo or Hiroshima.
the Battle off Samar has some of the more badass stories with the Roberts and Johnston.
I'm retired Navy, I made four deployments on two aircraft carriers. You might think a ship that's 1100(ish) feet long, weighing in at roughly 90,000 tons displacement is gigantic, it is... from the inside and close up. But if you've ever watched video of a Navy jet flying over at altitude, they're specks. As Griff stated, it is a terrifying place at the same time. He is 100% correct about having nowhere to run to if a fire breaks out. Every sailor in the Navy is a trained firefighter, we have to be. I've fought two fires in my 20-year Naval career, one was a small trash can fire that got out of hand, the other was a main machinery room fire that claimed 3 shipmate's lives and took 17 hours to extinguish.
@Jeff Landuyt - Thanks for your service.
Jack Yusen was a survivor of the USS Samuel B. Roberts and he was on the show WW2 in HD. He said after an 18inch shell from the Yamato hit the rear turret and evaporated everyone including two of his best friends he knew it was going to be a fight to the finish. Either they were going to kill them or get killed trying and that’s how they fought for almost 2 hours before finally being sunk. They were stranded in the ocean for 2 days while sharks attacked and killed survivors
Excellent documentary
There's no doubt in my mind that if he were still alive today, he would be so happy they found his ship
Two facts about the uss Johnston the bridge was hit by a shell from Yamato and two of the captains fingers were blown off and the bridge controls deemed inoperable so the captain ran across the flaming deck to personally order 4 of the crew to maneuver the rudder by hand all the while shouting orders shirtless from the flaming deck also as the Johnston finally sank and layed over on its side a Japanese cruiser steamed just feet from the sinking Johnston the remaining crew expected to be mowed down by machine gun fire but what actually happened was the Japanese captain gave the crew of the sinking Johnston a salute
Actually it was a japanese destroyer and the Johnston had already sunk by that point.
The Japanese Destroyer threw the survivors a can of vegetables.
Not sure why there isn’t a movie about the Sammy B, the Johnston, and the rest of Taffy 3! It’s such an unbelievable story of heroism
In Harms Way is based on the Johnstons story.
@@brucelytle1144 very loosely based.
@@jefferyindorf699 👍
The Battle off Samar is one of the craziest stories of naval warfare ever, I'd highly recommend to anyone who found this even a little bit interesting to look into it more, some of the acts of bravery and valor displayed in this fight against overwhelming odds are among the greatest of the war. A good place to start is a book called "Last stand of the tin can sailors" (there is also a graphic novel based on this book as well) it is one of the best books on any Battle I've ever read and I can't believe this hasn't gotten a movie or miniseries in the style of band of brothers or the recent Midway movie, its just such an amazing story. Some interesting facts to consider: just the Yamato alone weighed more than the entirety of Taffy 3, a single gun turret on the Yamato weighed as much as one of the Fletcher class destroyers in Taffy 3, and that's just the Yamato, there was 22 other ships in the surviving Japanese center force including 3 other entire Battleships. The Sammy B was smaller than everything the Japanese brought to the fight, yet they decided to Leroy Jenkins charge the most powerful surface fleet that Japan had. The American destroyers had no armor but because the Japanese didn't realize what they were (since they thought the escort carriers were big fleet carriers, they assumed the destroyers were the escorting battleships and cruisers) the Japanese fired armor piercing shells, which would go straight through the destroyers without exploding, a hole in a ship is bad, but fixable throw a plug in and pump like hell, an exploded ship though, not so much; so the ships like the Johnston survived hits that could have ended a more powerful ship. The enormity of what Taffy 3 did is amazing, the Japanese should have smashed through them and attacked the landing beaches for the invasion of the Philippines from the water, it would have been a disaster and every sailor in Taffy 3 knew it so they did their jobs to great effect, many at the cost of their life, but the landing beaches stayed safe and the Philippines were freed.
Came here to recommend that book. Absolutely amazing. I completely agree that it needs a film or TV adaptation. The Surface Navy's finest hour.
The Last Stand of The Tin Can Sailors
You failed to mention while working their way aft on the Sammy B, Limiting Factor came across the depth charge racks on the stern still loaded . . . and decide to back up a little bit.
XD
And her forward hedgehog launcher and locker are under the bent over superstructure, making being around her a rather sketchy idea. Old an degraded ordnance at depths well below where they should detonate or under pressure from bent steel? I don't really want to find out just how those ordnances react that deep.
@@MythicFool Yeah, after our dives, I asked some people I know that worked in naval ordnance if the weapons on the ship could go off and damage my submersible. Their uniform response was more or less: "We aren't sure, but best not to disturb them in any way . . ." Very comforting.
An absolute heroic testament to the courage of the US Navy sailor! Cdr Hearn of Johnston was awarded The Medal of Honor posthumously. Forever live Taffy 3!!!!
That's Ernest Evans.
@@Salty_Balls correct...sorry, I may or may not have consumed Marine quantities of adult beverages....
Cmdr. Earnest E. Evans and Taffy 3 are legends to every tin can sailor in the USN.
There's a story out there that either the Johnston or the Samuel B. Roberts fired so many rounds that she ran out of armor-piercing and high-explosive rounds and started firing shells full of white phosphorous (I think they were the starburst illumination shells). Since they couldn't pierce the main armor, they fired them at the superstructure and set the whole thing alight.
That was Samuel B. Roberts. Didn't matter if it was armor piercing, high explosive, anti-aircraft, or star shells (which are the phosphorous ones you mentioned), they were just sending everything they had up the hoist. Samuel B. Roberts had around 600 5" shells total and she fired off damn near all of them, mostly into the heavy cruiser Chikuma, who she and USS Heerman apparently gave one hell of a thrashing.
Roberts
Anyone who is more interested in the Battle of Samar should read James Hornfischer's book, "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors", which is a riveting account of events and goes into great detail on not only the U.S. side but the Japanese side of things as well. Sadly Hornfischer died last year from a brain tumor, but he's one of he "go to's for Naval history in the Pacific Theater of WWII. It's also worth pointing out that the Commander of the USS Johnston was Earnest Evans, known as "Big Chief" in Navy circles as he was full Native American. He was seriously wounded at one point during the engagement as a shell entered the bridge of the Johnston killing most at their stations and leaving Evans with only half a hand. After giving the command to abandon ship he was seen leaving the Johnston, but never recovered. He was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor. I've often wondered why a movie hasn't been made about this battle, because it's about as dramatic as they come.
KILLED the officers near him and he still endured. GOD DAMN GIANT..They don't make men like that generation anymore,baby boomers got it for free and squander..Easy ride
Drachinifel tells this story really well. The US destroyers and destroyer escorts got to within range of their 40mm bofors guns and plastered the upper works of the Japanese ships with AA fire, star shells and even 20mm oerlikon fire.
It was a breathtaking fight and an audacious assault by the US Navy.
Which reminds me of this one guy who was heard to remark, "Won't be long now, boys, we're sucking them into 40mm range." Then the Japanese unexpectedly broke off and turned away, and another guy -- or maybe it was the same crazy fool -- yelled, "DAMMIT, BOYS, THEY'RE GETTING AWAY!"
It's crazy to think about all the things at the bottom of the ocean that we have yet to find and potentially never will, we've been travelling it for centuries and dropping stuff in the whole time.
Like the nuclear bomb off the coast of South Carolina
@@KellysCanoeing But we can find plastic bags in the deepest part of the ocean.
The thumbnail is of the newer Samuel B Roberts Frigate. And quick correction, the WWII Sammy B was a Destroyer Escort, usually 50% the firepower of a regular DD
Was wondering why there was an Ollie P in the thumbnail..
@@matthewcoleman6642 Ah yes, the famous WWII ship, an OHP class frigate
Two of the most badass ships in history
The series "Word War II in color" (from the history Channel, I think... back when they actually did History) interviews one of the crewmen from the Samuel B. Roberts.
Jack Yusen. I could not find his rank otherwise I would have addressed him properly. His part of that series was very good. Great passion in his story telling. RIP
This is incredible, and amazing! I hope that these wrecks are deep enough that the remains of their crew will always be left to rest in peace.
While this discovery is extremely important, it is MOST important to the families of those deceased. They now know where the remains of their loved ones are located.
Sadly enough the ships and their entumbed sailors of the battle at the Java strait were stolen for scrap metal.
U.S, Dutch, U.K and Australian war ships on the seabed were just sacriledged.
Glad these ships were found. Both had brave crews who are a testament to the human spirit. We all die, but these men died well.
Taffy 3 is the epitome of the phrase "I didn't hear no bell!" - Absolute heroes! 😁
My grandfather served on the Lawrence C Taylor DE-415. A sister ship of the Samuel B Roberts. I have a copy of a letter he wrote on Oct 25th, 1944. On that day they were still at the anchorage at Eniwetok in the Marshall Islands. He wrote that they had not seen combat yet, and hoped they never would. They did later see combat. One of the more tragic events was trying to assist the sinking escort carrier USS Bismarck Sea that had been hit by kamikaze attacks at Iwo Jima
Those brave dudes.
So many went down with her.
Can’t help but think of any who may have been trapped in air pockets.
At least they were together at the end
RIP fellas.
You gotta give respect to people willing to find these lost relics and give a place to remember those who fought and died in war ❤
Now I'm hoping that you cover Samar/Leyte Gulf on Warographics. Curse you Simon for making fantastic content that makes me want more!
If you want a good version, Drachinifel knocks it out of the park, it's a bit lengthy, but the dry British wit and dedication to covering the entire history is absolutely spot on
Simon is a fixture of RUclips. If he ever hangs up his hat, it's all over.
Likely the Gambirr Bay when discovered might well be the deepest ship wreck ever found. The Johnston and the Robert's are pretty close to the edge of the Trench. Gambier Bay may be in it. Up to 10km down. And there are likely other wrecks of ships and planes at the bottom of various Trenches at the borders of subduction zones.
My last ship before retiring from the Navy in 2008 was the USS Samuel B Roberts (FFG58)
The Samuel B. Roberts wasn't sunk by enemy fire. The crew's massive balls pulled it under.
great book about this battle. This video doesn't even scratch the surface. Book is "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors: The Extraordinary World War II Story of the U.S. Navy's Finest Hour"
This was my first Chief's ship. He told us all about his exploits and then the plan to sink her.
It is always so cool to hear bizar stories from people who were actually there!
Goddamn, shipmate! When did you serve? You must be a Boondocker and dungaree wearing Old Salt. Thank you for your service, my brother. BZ!
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
Just a heads up she was a destroyer escort not a destroyer. More lightly armed then the regular destroyers and slower.
This was a true battle of David vs. Goliath.
I guess the corpses are also preserved?
I always love the way shipwrecks look, it always reminds me of when i was a kid and read my brother's book about the Bismarck, which also came with a fold out painting poster of the shipwreck and its pieces.
The Yamato is also one of my favorites, and Victor Vescovo does some cool stuff, i had watched his Mariana Trench dive, but i had no idea that he was still at it.
The corpses often get eaten by scavenging animals
@@iHelpSolveIt I know, but considering there's no growth on the hull, i wonder how many scavengers have crossed there.
Then again, it has been there for a long time, but i still wonder if some are remaining in difficult to reach areas.
@@Games_and_Music if it was sealed well enough to keep scavengers out they still most likely broke down just from bacteria in the water similar to how other corpses pulled from water bloat and essentially turn into various liquids and gases. Besides bones and stuff. But then that makes you wonder if there are just skeletons in their various locations in that ship. But I've also seen something where bodies in the ocean can turn into like a wax? So maybe there is sealed in wax corpses just in limbo?🤷🏻♀️
@@emmaadams5905 Saponification or something right? One of the wrecks of the Great Lakes has a famous body encased in wax still down there in the wreck. That said, those waters are very, very cold.
Nope. At that depth, bodies basically dissipate/dissolve from the immense pressure. That's why there are no 'bodies' or bones on the Titanic wreck. And it's only 2 miles down.
"Limiting factor" Great name!
The USS Johnston was fighting alongside the Sammy B, they both had taken part in the same battle both sunk together, inflecting heavy damage to the Japanese fleet.
The story of Taffy 3 is the kind of David-vs.-Goliath saga that is guaranteed to fascinate. A bunch of tin cans chased off a fleet of battlewagons led by the mightiest battlecship of them all, and essentially did so with sheer wolverine ferocity. It's deservedly remembered as the United States Navy's finest hour.
My father’s first cousin died on the Samuel B. Roberts. He was seventeen. Although he was born in the U.S., his father was an Italian immigrant. His family had mixed feelings about his enlistment. They were proud of him but they recognized there was a real risk that he could end up fighting his uncles and cousins who were still in Italy. His assignment to a ship in the Pacific eliminated that risk but resulted in his death.
My father shared a first and last name with his cousin. He was a few years younger so he didn’t serve in the war. My father’s family moved just prior to his last year in high school. My father stayed behind and lived with his cousin’s family while he finished high school. His presence must have been a constant reminder of their dead son but they always made him feel welcome.
I think it is important to remember there were real people who died in historical events. Their deaths had an impact upon their friends and family. Without a personal connection, it can be hard to feel this on an emotional level.
If you'd done this video a year ago, you'd have been talking about USS Johnston. In another year you may be talking about the USS Gambier Bay which may be in even deeper water than the Roberts. All were lost in the same battle off Samar.
As said @10:07
Hoel (another Fletcher class destroyer just like Johnston) is out there somewhere too.
I'm glad they found those 2 girls!
My Uncle Paul Carr was on the Sammy B and was a Gunners Mate. He went down with ship and later was awarded a Purple Star and a Fast Frigate USS 52 was named for him in 1985. We were able to meet the survivors of the Sammy B and their stories were told. Reason I joined the Navy was those survivors and my Uncle’s heroism.
An unsung hero of WW2 in the Pacific! 🌏
A true phyrric victory!
It would be awesome to see something about Samuel Roberts the man. I understand he was a Coxswain killed at Guadacanal. Only 21 years old but there isn't much more information about him around. Yet three ships have been named after him. There must be more to his story
Drachinifel covers the battle in detail. The Japanese had loaded with armour piercing shells which zipped through the lightly built US destroyers causing minimal damage. Eventually one hit something vital or the Japanese gunners changed to HE ammunition.
“WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY-FOUR THE WORLD WONDERS?”
Admiral Chester Nimitz
I believe the Yamato itself weighed more than All of the American ships combined. Kurita made a terrible mistake, sent in to destroy the landings but retreating to save themselves instead because of the intense heroic defense of the US ships.
Kurita's fleet had spent almost two days straight fighting and despite having vastly larger numbers most of his fleet was damaged and trying to carry out repairs
footage from these missions has become sooo much better
a little over 4-1/4 miles. on top of our dirt, that doesnt seem too far but when we think of depth, its nearly inconceivable...
thanks Simon!
I wish they would make a movie about the battle of Samar...and tell the story of this little big ship!
These battles are described in the book "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" by James D. Hornfischer (2004).
Captain Evans of the Johnston was last seen alive in one of the lifeboats but disappeared during the wait for rescue.
If they're so preserved, I wonder if their logbooks might still be recovered. They went down with the wrecks, and that took a bunch of information on the battle with them. Even if not, having the wrecks would probably fill a few holes in the records.
It’s hard to imagine how deep is 10k. That’s just an incredible amount of water.
I served under Capt. Rinn on another ship. His leadership was amazing.
Seriously, this battle needs to be made a movie...
Tthe Yamato alone displaced as much as the combination of Taffy 3, to give an idea of how mismatched the fight was. It was also the only time a US carrier was sunk by naval gunfire in WWII. It also should be noted that Taffy 3 did get support from bombers from Taffy 1 & 2; however the planes were mainly meant for anti-submarine and ground support, but did help keep pressure on the Japanese.
The thumbnail has the wrong Samuel B. Roberts. And the one this is about was a destroyer escort, if I’m not mistaken, not a destroyer. Nor did the Japanese have any battlecruisers at Samar.
In this case, the thumbnail is possibly FFG-58, USS Samuel B Roberts also a ship of historical significance, on 14 April 1988 it almost ripped in half by an Iranian mine in the Persian Gulf. She survived by spit, wire, and the grit and determination of her Captain and Crew.
IJN Kongo was originally commissioned as a "battlecruiser" but depending on your definition was overhauled and re- commisioned as a "Fast Battleship."
Nice to have a video without constant music. TY
Sometimes the shark goes away.Sometimes he don't. The scariest part was waiting for my turn to be picked up by that Catalina. I'll never put on a life vest again.......Anyway we delivered the bomb to Tinian
Thank you. Love your style. I usually do a 1.25 - 1.5 on playback speed on nearly all informational vids. No need with Simon.
Usual level of quality for this network. The thumbnail shows the third Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) in 1988, but the video covers the first Samuel B. Roberts (DE-413) that was sunk in 1944.
Victor Vescovo and the Limiting Factor deserve their own sideprojects video.
Just knowing you are sailing over ten miles of the cold empty deep is bad enough but imagine fighting a major sea battle over it knowing that going down with the ship is a very long ride.
5:53 he also thought that the Destroyers were Baltimore class heavy cruisers due to their similar silhouettes
I should imagine American 🇺🇸 viewers would want to see this on Megaprojects 😅
Still I like it! 👍👍
Whatever channel Simon presented it on!
When they found the samuel B. Roberts, they were actually looking for another ship. They were looking for an aircraft carrier but im forgetting the name. They were investigating an anomaly but it ended up being the samuel B. Roberts.
And victor vescovo's vessel is actually capable of diving to the deepest area of the mariana's trench, he has done it several times on his youtube channel. Plus the full documentary for finding both these ships are on his channel as well.
Vescovo's documentary on finding these ships is what drew me to his achievements. Funding a sub that has unlimited depth rating. Reaching the deepest point of all 5 oceans. Taking people down to the deepest parts of their oceans. The guy is a legend.
@@rpcheesman he is an absolute legend and I think it's a complete disrespect for Simon and his team to not show some love by shouting out viscovo's youtube channel. It would be very helpful to grow his channel.. not that he needs more money, but money isn't limitless- even for the super wealthy....
Plus more importantly, it would drive more people to discover his and his teams work.
Gonna need a Gene Hackman movie bout this
BTW, the ship you see aboard the ship transporter is another Sammy B., the frigate named for the WW2 hero ship, that ran into a mine and had to be hauled home that way.
The s.b.r and the Johnston fought like hell against all odds. Just like all taffy 3...And friggin won. Bloody amazing.
If there is a Ship Valhalla, USS Laffey (Benson) greeted her sisters warmly. Taffy 3 did their duty. The sacrifice of the destroyers saved the marines. And honestly, are you really a destroyer commander if you don't do something insane and brave?
Having spent years and years learning about all the various battles and ships of WW2 and the interwar years. Seeing an anime created about the ships who served and having its second season drop a few days ago as of writing this. It breaks my heart to think about all the ships on either side especially with the battle of Surigao straight.
People often overlook the importance of escort ships and the huge risk being on one posed. My grandfather - an Australian young naval recruit at the start of the war, was one of only a doz men to survive the Japanese bombing of the troop carrier he was posted on, in Darwin, and due to his skills as a gunner, after all other gunners were killed, he took the last remaining working gun and shot the plane that was about to dive into the deck. The ship was still lost tho, but he and a handful others abandoned ship as it sunk in the Darwin harbor. He then was promoted and spent the rest of the war on escort ships ferrying troops back to Hawaii. The said the Japanese were a constant persistent threat and didnt care how recklessly they attacked. He did survive the war and spent the next 45 years quietly as a farmer, barely saying a word about what he did, and altho their loungreroom wall was filled with medals, photos of lost crewmen and ships he spent time on...he almost never talked about it. And we were never allowed to ask. Only Nan told us after he died what al the medals were for and what happened. I would love to learn more, but its hard to get accurate info, nonetheless, escorts are clearly much under rated vessels.
Ever since this submarine imploding thing i've been getting tons of videos about sunken ships and diving in the ocean in my algorithm lol i'm not complaining it's all pretty interesting stuff
There’s a documentary on these 2 ships on the AHC channel (former Military Channel) 173. It’s pretty incredible what Taffy 3 did being so outclassed, outgunned and outnumbered. They actually saved the lives of all the Marines stuck on that island. It was things like this that nicknamed them The Greatest Generation. Their crews were mostly just kids… 18 , 19, 20 year olds right out of highschool.
Question, since the depth of the ship is that deep and since a good deal of living matter doesn't live down there, (I am guessing this would include bacteria), regardless, question is, do you think the ship still has bodies from WWII in it? Possibly somewhat preserved?
Bacteria actually thrives in the depths of the ocean. The Mariana Trench is proof of this with depths exceeding 8kms. There are actually fish that can live in those depths, too. Considering how cold it must be down there the body will still decompose but at a much slower rate. The skin will absorb water, naturally, and after about just over a week will separate from the underlying tissue. Due to the cold the formation of adipocere will take place (The body's fat acts against decomposition, essentially).
Anyway, whilst the decomposition process would have been greatly slowed down due to the low temperatures and, perhaps, lack of notable predators in the area. The corpses would have remained intact for a several weeks, maximum. Eventually succumbing to nature and bacteria. Depending on where the crew perished on the ship - They would have either been buried in the silt of the ocean floor or their bodies slowly degrading in sealed off rooms. Though, however, I doubt many skeletal remains would still be around - or, at least, noticeably human remains exist.
Those who managed, if there were anyway, to find air pockets as the ship sunk would have died almost instantly (Imploding due to the immense pressure) before even reaching 3kms down.
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The book, is a great book that describes the incredible bravery of the American crews in this battle, and their horrible ordeal afterwards. Freedom isn't free, and this will help people understand what members of the Greatest Generation did to keep it for their descendants. (not themselves; they knew their time was up and went in anyway).
Simon, I highly recommend that you read the following book, "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors". It covers this in depth.
Holy crap the Yamato from an actual photos looks freaking amazing.
Is there any known pictures of Sammy, the puppy who was the Samuel B. Roberts’ mascot?
There is in Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors.
If I am remembering correctly, the combined tonnage of a ships in Taffy 3 was less then the tonnage of just the battleship Yamato. A single turret on Yamato weighed more then the Samuel B Roberts. And yet they gave them hell
One of Yamatos turrets weighed more than the Fletchers for that matter
That is correct.
Very interesting video! Will you cover the Battle of Leyte Gulf on Warographics? Great job Simon and team 😊
During war time so many men and women in all the armed forces chose honor, duty and the lives of others above their own even when facing impossible odds or even certain death they did not hesitate and gave everything they had, all are heroes.
The USS Roberts: the destroyer that fought like a battleship.
Somebody really needs to make a movie about that battle...
Love the snark about a budget DE that accomplished more than the entire Bong Orient Squadron
I simply cannot imagine how it must have felt to command the ship in battle from an open bridge. Men of such unbelievable bravery. Perhaps its worse from the engine room or similar where you can’t see anything. Lying in serenity and isolation but knowing that people still think enough about you to come and pay homage. ❤
Taffy 3 - when some destroyers, destroyer escorts, and escorts carriers were sized like mice, but roared like lions.
As an American, stuff like this can't help but make me smile.
The whole story of Taffy III is just crazy, with what they accomplished with so little. Surprising the US ships didn't sink from the weight of the big brass ones the sailors were packing!