Frank Zappa Montana Reaction Musician First Listen

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024

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  • @markdrechsler5660
    @markdrechsler5660 2 года назад +20

    I’ve always loved this track. The guitar solo has a beautiful architecture. Everything else on this album is also worthy of your attention.

    • @Matty88K
      @Matty88K Год назад +1

      Checkout Frank's live solo Sweden TV show '73, it's here on YT...you'll know you've found the right video if Frank's wearing the ugliest suit you've ever seen. Jean Luc Ponty on violin. Frank plays a 10-minute solo in five minutes.

  • @barrywilson1294
    @barrywilson1294 2 года назад +28

    It’s about time someone clued you in on “conceptual continuity”. Frank often leaves references and jokes in his lyrics which appear in other work as well. Not only will a theme reoccur but so will a lyrical joke such as “zircon encrusted tweezers”. The song is mostly about being your own boss and being like a cowboy. There’s not necessarily a deeper meaning. “I don’t care if you think it’s silly folks”. While he is incredible as a guitarist Frank thought of himself as a composer and experimented constantly. Most of his studio albums started as live tracks. Sometimes he would blend different performances. One thing is certain. You’re only getting a snapshot of the song at a particular point in time. A few years later you might hear a completely different arrangement for a different mix of band members. With so many albums released over his lifetime and just as many released after his death by the family trust there is an endless supply of variations and jokes. At concerts Frank would sometimes have a secret word or theme and the lyrics that day would get modified to fit whatever he found funny that night.

    • @EdwardGregoryNYC
      @EdwardGregoryNYC 2 года назад +2

      Yes, about being a cowboy, but also about being completely clueless about what a cowboy does. The conceptual continuity is perhaps best seen in the running gags, but also in the journey through music.

    • @Telephonebill51
      @Telephonebill51 Год назад +2

      He was very anti-drug, too, believe it or not. Sex, on the other hand...

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Good point. I saw Frank 5 times in 7 days. LA, Santa Barbara, Berkeley, Sacramento and Reno. They did Inca every show. BUT, Frank played 5 different lead solo's . All were good. Reno was the best. And keep in mind, the band would rehearse about 100+ songs. Frank wouldn't tell them which songs they were going to play that evening until 30 minutes before the show. Each show was different.

  • @pilesovinyl
    @pilesovinyl 2 года назад +15

    As a lifelong Zappa fan I'm beginning to have a good laugh watching you work your way through some of his classic tracks! You crack me up!! Hahaha!!! Definitely Zappa on the feature guitar solo on most any track you hear from him.

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Steve Vai snuck some leads in.

  • @timfeeley714-25
    @timfeeley714-25 2 года назад +29

    Ya, that's Tina Turner and the Ikettes on backing vocals, they did two albums with Frank, Overnight Sensation and Apostrophe, both albums were recorded at Ike Turners Bolic Sound, yes Ike was a jerk and refused to let frank credit them on the albums, and told Frank not to pay them, but Frank did anyway. Here's a great video of Frank, the band and a couple of the Ikettes in the studio. Thanx for the reaction: ~ ruclips.net/video/5-kXTFSswKw/видео.html

    • @keithmccaslyn2527
      @keithmccaslyn2527 Год назад +1

      thanks for the link been into Zappa since late '74, I love love this video link you included,thank you thnk you thank you. I was fortunate enough and had the presence of heart and mind to see FZ Live twice in my Teen's. He and the Band blew us away. stay groovy,stay free!:-)

    • @timfeeley714-25
      @timfeeley714-25 Год назад

      @@keithmccaslyn2527 Happy to be of service, apparently you are the one I posted it for. I've been into Frank since 76 myself and got to see him only once in Houston a couple of months before Vai started with the band, it was awesome. If you are not familiar with them, I would suggest checking out a band called Hawkwind, A band that burst into my consciousness at the same time as Frank and remains tied with him as my all-time favorite. Hawkwind's A Space Ritual Alive In Liverpool And London is a great place to start, it is considered by many to be the best live album ever recorded and is hands down the best album cover ever, what you see on the Tube is one panel of a six panel fold out.Hawkwind is the band that Lemmy first played bass and gained notoriety with.Thanx for letting me know you enjoyed the Zappa video.

    • @johnnyfrederick01
      @johnnyfrederick01 9 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for that link!! Been into FZ & The Mothers since 1973 - Billy the Mountain blew my mind. Ain’t been the same since!

    • @pitfisch1
      @pitfisch1 6 месяцев назад

      How about "Roxy"?

    • @timfeeley714-25
      @timfeeley714-25 6 месяцев назад

      @@pitfisch1 Roxy is a live album, they're not on it.

  • @erikahlander3489
    @erikahlander3489 2 года назад +17

    I heard this song live outdoor in Stockholm a few weeks before it was released on the album 1973. The Tina Turner + Ikettes part was replaced by a brass section + Jean Luc Ponty on electric violin + Ruth Underwood on percussion. I was 19, already a fan, and it was stunning! It was recorded for Swedish TV so you can find the whole concert on RUclips. I think its about a man cultivating dental floss in Montana! I am satisfied with that. So silly! After you have heard "Penguin in bondage" you should research the meaning of that one!

    • @gmcsrbosavl6964
      @gmcsrbosavl6964 2 года назад +1

      I can’t imagine being in the audience for that show. It is shockingly brilliant. Zappa, Ponty, Duke…whoa. Still ahead of its time.

  • @AndyMmusic
    @AndyMmusic 2 года назад +8

    Don't worry about what the song means. The lyrics even say "I don't care if you think it's silly, folks!"
    And Frank Zappa played guitar on this, including the solo.

  • @dchale1
    @dchale1 2 года назад +4

    Frank saw a box of dental floss on the counter and thought "No one has ever written a song about that... '
    True story.

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 2 года назад +5

    Frank Zappa - lead vocals, lead guitar
    Tina Turner & The Ikettes, Kin Vassy - backing vocals
    Ian Underwood - alto saxophone
    Bruce Fowler - trombone
    Sal Marquez - trumpet
    George Duke - electric piano
    Tom Fowler - bass guitar
    Ruth Underwood - marimba
    Ralph Humphrey - drums
    Ralph Humphries on drums...BEAST...

  • @snailer06
    @snailer06 2 года назад +2

    Zappa on lead guitar, Tina Turner vocals. Tina is also uncredited on "Dynah-Moe Humm"

  • @georgeperkins4171
    @georgeperkins4171 2 месяца назад

    His guitar still gives goosebumps. His solos are the treat inside of his songs.
    Do more!

  • @alejandrogriego9756
    @alejandrogriego9756 2 года назад +3

    Zappa played guitar in 90% of his songs. He's a great guitarist as well as composer. He went to young.

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 2 года назад +2

    Frank had persistence... No one ever told him he could not do It, he just did It.

  • @chazblitz
    @chazblitz 2 года назад +3

    Still dreaming of when I become a dental floss tycoon.

  • @stevious7278
    @stevious7278 Год назад

    G'day mate from Australia.
    It was a real hoot to watch your face as you listened to this!
    Seeing how you immediately get the absurdity of a section and then when the music takes prominence you ride that train; and when Frank lets loose with the guitar... well that was a sight to behold 😆. And at times the momentary look of utter confusion as your inner voice says, "WTF?"...priceless! 🤣
    "Apostrophe" was my first encounter with Mr. Zappa. 1975 I think it was and I was immediately hooked. This track and "Stink Foot" really appeal to my sense of ridiculousness.

  • @hampyonce
    @hampyonce 2 года назад +1

    15 yrs old.
    MGB. Pioneer SuperTuner.
    Jensen Coaxials.
    Copious Colmbian Red Bud. Abundant Afghan hashish. Many microcodots and blotter squares.
    Frank Zappa
    Mind expansion.

  • @duster71
    @duster71 2 года назад +2

    Greatest musical mind to ever walk this Earth.

  • @alfredovelarde7993
    @alfredovelarde7993 2 года назад +1

    With the video of Montana I saw your three clips of FZ. The others are Inca roads & Po Jamma People. Excelent selection and what a musician! Thanks for your magnificent comments.

  • @fords_nothere_100
    @fords_nothere_100 2 года назад +3

    Great choice of tunes. Another of his "story" type songs.
    For me, the song has always been a kind opaque critique of the desire to "return to nature" or to "tune in, turn on, drop out", very popular in the 60s/early 70s. Moving to Montana, i.e. to get out of the rat race and do something simple, was an easy target for Frank's biting, funky satire. Just a thought.

  • @chitownlee
    @chitownlee 2 года назад +3

    The female voices you hear are Tina Turner and the Ikettes. Not just in this song but the whole album.

  • @473mec
    @473mec 2 года назад +2

    The guitar solo in this song is one of my all-time favorites, and yes, FZ is the guitarist.

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      I'm partial to Stucco Homes.

  • @valerieamend927
    @valerieamend927 2 года назад +1

    At 4:03 I can still see him sitting about 12 feet from me on the stage at Celebrity Theater in Phoenix back in the early 80s. Truly the greatest concerts I've ever seen. This was the one-off song he played during his set that mostly focused on his Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, with a sprinkle of You Are What You Is. My sister inlaws got me a few of his works, AFTER I divorced their brother. Yeah-I'm lousy with Frank Zappa-ness.

  • @peterz4427
    @peterz4427 2 года назад +3

    My favorite Frank album. Been listening to this for almost 50 years and it never gets old. Incidentally the lady background singers? One of them is Tina Turner.

  • @leddygee1896
    @leddygee1896 2 года назад +2

    Dental floss used to be made of spun, waxed hemp fiber, so essentially he's growing pot...

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      And the Zircon tweezer is the roach clip.

  • @georgepitts1057
    @georgepitts1057 2 года назад +1

    In Europe , Zappa is regarded as one of the more important composers in 20th century America !!!!

  • @twigtoomooninnovationz
    @twigtoomooninnovationz 2 года назад +1

    ... When I first heard this song Frank turned into my #1... the guitar solo took me to guitar nirvana, absolutely INCREDIBLE; I saw it on yer face too John!!! ...

  • @scottmorris7546
    @scottmorris7546 2 года назад +3

    As a lifelong Zappa nut- my #1 album is "Cruisin with Reuben and the Jets"

    • @badhidingplace9558
      @badhidingplace9558 2 года назад

      Interesting, because I waffle between "Hot Rats" and "Sheik Yerbouti" as my favorite, depending on my mood.

    • @barrywilson1294
      @barrywilson1294 2 года назад

      There are days when I listen to Crusin’ and days when I listen to Jazz From Hell. But nothing beats the attitude of that guitar solo in Packard Goose.

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      @@barrywilson1294 Opening of Why does it hurt . . . That's attitude. Or a kicked backed attitude of Stucco Homes.

  • @valerieamend927
    @valerieamend927 2 года назад

    You need to bless yourself with some Joe's Garage, my friend. It's nice to see a fellow FZ fan John Slop. I appreciate you.

  • @publicdomain1018
    @publicdomain1018 2 года назад +2

    I,ve always thought it was about. somebody that gets an idea. then follows it no matter how stupid it may be. Their American Dream

  • @edsewall4904
    @edsewall4904 Год назад

    Fo sho, Frank! Fo sho, John. Welcome again, Joh!

  • @thomasvieth578
    @thomasvieth578 2 года назад +4

    It’s a satire on people who “dropped out” in the Seventies. Frank was always satirical about hippies. And what’s more ludicrous than growing dental floss in the ole west?

    • @tcanfield
      @tcanfield 2 года назад

      Also known as the “back to the land” movement

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Voting for Joe this time around.

  • @philipfracul2043
    @philipfracul2043 Год назад

    So my dad told me years ago that the song was referring to a time when they made dental floss from hemp. So he's making a joke usually in most of his songs. "Dental floss tycoon" and the zircon encrusted tweezers being what they used to call a roach clip that was a device to hold your joint to smoke it all the way down without burning your fingers. Now we use filters, so it's kind of a mystery now a days.

  • @TerryFlynn-df2gy
    @TerryFlynn-df2gy Год назад

    I was introduced to Zappa with Overnight sensation and Apostrophe and became a life long Zappa fan ! I play both guitar and drums and was inspired by both him and his badass musicians!

  • @TheNeonRabbit
    @TheNeonRabbit 10 месяцев назад

    The most structurally perfect solo ever

  • @chrisformby3039
    @chrisformby3039 2 года назад +1

    It's a commentary about the battery farming versus free range processes of raising dental floss.

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Free range hadn't been invented when the song was written. It's just a stupid little song. No deep meaning.

  • @richstarbird3672
    @richstarbird3672 Год назад

    No one shredded on guitar in those days, Frank was so far ahead of his time.
    “On the bus”from Joes Garage is so good.
    And plenty on shut up and play your guitar.
    Thanks

  • @MrWaterpumpkin
    @MrWaterpumpkin 2 года назад +2

    I do not remember how I felt when I first heard this very song, but I felt every new song of FZ a wild journey - with all jewels and warts; trying every new album with religios fervour, expecting that thrill of unexpected. Unfortunately it\s not the same feeling anymore (I think, I heard everything) but fortunately I always discover new elements and structures in this music, every listening is a new excitement. So, enjoy this as a new fresh music everytime you hear it. And it is nice to listen to it together. Thanks!

  • @brianwhitney5441
    @brianwhitney5441 2 года назад

    Love watching young people spend the time to get and then become fans. Nice job!

  • @alldayadventures5418
    @alldayadventures5418 2 года назад +3

    John, you really need to do a full album review of Joes garage Act 1. A very well known album from back in the day. Lots of singalong tunes.
    Don't bother with 2+3.

  • @patrickbradford7722
    @patrickbradford7722 2 года назад +1

    Yep, Frank on guitar solo.

  • @lorrainemiller688
    @lorrainemiller688 Год назад

    After all these years, I didn't know that was Tina!!!!!

  • @timkaufhold4739
    @timkaufhold4739 2 года назад

    Frank was constantly creative .

  • @m.rogers9490
    @m.rogers9490 10 месяцев назад

    RECORDED AT IKE TURNERS RECORDING STUDIO , THE IKETTES ARE SINGING BACKUP VOCALS . IKE TOLD FRANK NOT TO GIVE THE GIRLS ANY BILLING ON THE ALBUM AND TO PAY THEM LOW SCALE .

  • @kuluskitur
    @kuluskitur 11 месяцев назад

    Yes that's a very Frank Zappa guitar solo, played by Frank Zappa 😆

  • @scottlaughlin9897
    @scottlaughlin9897 2 года назад +2

    Check out Dyna-Mo-Hum by him.

  • @sea6bear
    @sea6bear 2 года назад

    Frank never bores you with his guitar solos!

  • @peteharper2687
    @peteharper2687 Год назад

    Montana is my favourite track from Frank Zappa. I heard it as part of the whole album, but it made me smile, if not laugh, like so many of Zappa's tracks. Pure entertainment, and music mastery.

  • @duster71
    @duster71 2 года назад

    Frank's solo was played through a Pignose amp.Imagine seeing and hearing him playing this when your just 14 in 1974.

  • @user-gy5cx5db2i
    @user-gy5cx5db2i Год назад

    what a guitar solo

  • @edsewall4904
    @edsewall4904 Год назад +1

    OMG. Yipeeyo-Ti-Ya!

  • @2porangi
    @2porangi 6 месяцев назад

    I am a firm believer that the brain can be rewired to enjoy any type of music, to prove my point listen to Zappa, dont like it? give it a couple of weeks then listen again, repeat this over a period of time then you will notice a change in your attitude to Zappa's music. Try this experiment on any type of music that you are not into, you will be amazed at the result.

  • @simonpepper9721
    @simonpepper9721 2 года назад

    Tina and the ikettes also got paid. The cheques are printed in Zappa's book "Frank Zappa,the real story".

  • @m.ericwatson968
    @m.ericwatson968 2 года назад

    Love Zappa reactions, "wait, what? so dude is a dental floss cowboy?" yeah "....that makes no sense!" ...precisely

  • @warrengreene6143
    @warrengreene6143 2 года назад

    One of my all time favorite songs by anybody

  • @MrTortureneverstops1
    @MrTortureneverstops1 2 года назад +1

    Frank on lead guitar ! Who else ?

  • @jgreber1790
    @jgreber1790 Год назад

    The guitar solo was sublime but you are so right in that the fade out was just killer! If you keep listening during the fade out you hear the vocalist jump it up yet another octave! In order to understand Zappa‘s references you really have to start back with the freak out album because these little Easter eggs have developed over time And build on each other. Enjoyed your reaction!

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Where Billy caused a, "Oh, Mien Papa" in the Earths crust.
      Do you know that one from JABFLA?

  • @TheUtke
    @TheUtke 2 года назад +1

    In addition to David Hale’s true statement, Frank also once said: “If love songs worked, we’d all be loving each other [since they’re so plentyful]. I made a song about dental floss, but nobody’s teeth got cleaner!”Or something to that effect.

  • @DavidJacobsvo
    @DavidJacobsvo 2 года назад +1

    Zircon incrusted tweezers show up sever times in Zappa songs. I don’t know why.

  • @valerieamend927
    @valerieamend927 2 года назад

    It's good to find a fellow fan.

  • @marceldagenais1893
    @marceldagenais1893 8 месяцев назад

    Dental floss and it rocks !

  • @TommiBrem
    @TommiBrem 2 года назад

    Groovin' to Montana soon....

  • @charlieanderson8497
    @charlieanderson8497 2 года назад

    Much different guitar solo on the album Over-nite Sensation.

  • @473mec
    @473mec 2 года назад

    In response to your question about the song's meaning, I ask why reactors think that every song has a meaning and why that is most frequently the focus? When I grew up hearing these songs the audio quality of my cheap radio or record player meant making out the lyrics were often impossible. There was no internet to look them up, so unless you had the album and it had the lyrics printed, you would never know. Not knowing never detracted from the artistry of the performance, so again, why are the lyrics and the "meaning" so important in deciding if you like the music or are fulfilled by it?

  • @paulpennell2115
    @paulpennell2115 Год назад

    I can imagine a group of stoners sitting around and coming up with this idea, having no idea where dental floss comes from.

  • @tomkitchen9457
    @tomkitchen9457 Год назад

    At least once, you should hear "Jesus thinks you're a jerk," in which he criticises the tv preachers of his day. The band goes into a jazz vamp based on the theme from "twilight zone." (my favorite)❤

  • @godbluffvdgg
    @godbluffvdgg 2 года назад

    As an Axeman; I know you're digging On FZ's killer chops...

  • @valerieamend927
    @valerieamend927 2 года назад

    Love the irony that FZ brought. A master in the true sense of the word.

    • @valerieamend927
      @valerieamend927 2 года назад

      Ya never seen a man with crowd control like Frank. He told us all to shut the hell up and sit our asses down. And we all shut up and sat TF down.

  • @DanielTaylorOCMD
    @DanielTaylorOCMD 2 года назад

    This is a good one, you chose wisely.

  • @roberthansen7549
    @roberthansen7549 11 месяцев назад

    John a song doesn’t have to have a meaning. Most of franks music is proof of this.
    Picture this. Some chump in brown shoes fighting the hustle and bussel of the city. ( the circus music intro) he sits at his cubicle dreaming of a better , simpler life. Moving to Montana. But what what could he do to afford his new life. Why , he’d grow dental floss. Everyone needs floss. It’s glorious.

  • @robertartese808
    @robertartese808 Год назад

    Try Carolina Hardcore Ecstasy on the album Bongo Fury

  • @roffep216
    @roffep216 2 года назад

    I know what I think. Frank Zappa is fantastic!

  • @peterbartolomeo5542
    @peterbartolomeo5542 Год назад

    Zappa was a gift from God ..like so many great musicians...he was way ahead of his time. He added comedy and satire in his music. You had to be the very best of the best to play in one of his bands. Check out the 8:46 second version of treacherous cretens

  • @jeffmartin1026
    @jeffmartin1026 2 года назад +1

    "Oof - what is this song about"? It's about moving to Montana to become a dental floss tycoon. Most of his songs are exactly what they are, the conceptual continuity of everyday life.

    • @IVnik8or
      @IVnik8or 2 года назад +1

      A lot of Frank’s songs sound like they started out as some sort of dream sequence.

    • @jeffmartin1026
      @jeffmartin1026 2 года назад +1

      @@IVnik8or "Yellow Snow" states that clearly.

    • @IVnik8or
      @IVnik8or 2 года назад +1

      @@jeffmartin1026 I meant other songs like Montana, Inca Roads, Greggrry Peccary but yes, definitely Yellow Snow.

  • @peterhall1827
    @peterhall1827 2 года назад

    one size fits all. the best album. you should listen to all tracks.

  • @michaeldavidfigures9842
    @michaeldavidfigures9842 Год назад

    Watching gen z kids turn on to FZ makes me grin.

  • @jonasolsson2256
    @jonasolsson2256 2 года назад

    Well, according to Frank himself. This is a song… about… dental floss!

  • @cultstd7054
    @cultstd7054 Год назад +1

    F.Z. is the best!

  • @aaronwentzel6174
    @aaronwentzel6174 2 года назад

    Just enjoy the music. Franks lyrics in most cases,are Franks. More Zappa reactions!

  • @pedrozappa
    @pedrozappa 2 года назад +2

    At least, pretend you care about the musicians and instruments played. There's lots of places with information about that. All that is more important than the lyrics...

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      But it's hard to sing along with instrumentals. :)

  • @GoodCorporateRobot
    @GoodCorporateRobot 2 года назад

    John, I can only hope that your flabbergastered impressions of Franks music are outweighed by interest. It’s often difficult to recognize brilliance but this is what it sounds like.

  • @peterhall1827
    @peterhall1827 2 года назад

    sorry. ment overnight sensation

  • @joa2340
    @joa2340 2 года назад

    For the lyrics: Think of people who told you about their absurd plans for their future professional life and how absurd their reasoning for their success is. I think you are right on track then.

  • @SusanHeaton
    @SusanHeaton Год назад

    To think, no drugs were used during the composing of this song... lol unpossible!
    (Frank was a complete t-totaler, as hard as that is to believe)

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      Not True. A lot of caffeine and cigarettes. It's still a drug. I need a coffee!!!

  • @jonprice3337
    @jonprice3337 2 года назад

    A California stoners take, back in the day, of going to grow in Montana? The real meaning though is that it is effing great!

  • @urbanbrandt7336
    @urbanbrandt7336 Год назад

    Ironic Frank...

  • @stevedotwood
    @stevedotwood 2 года назад

    Has no hidden meaning. It's a cartoon for your ears. Maybe a satire on entrepreneurship, there are some silly ones, I mean look at a dental floss box. Who makes these things?)

  • @Samadhijunkie
    @Samadhijunkie 2 года назад

    Lol, listen to any text of his songs …. I never found any clear use or meaning (being serious)f or for that matter, in that way he just makes fun of singers and bands who take themselves too serious, if I’m correct I heard him once say that he didn’t care much about lyrics so he just clowning around and having fun , was fortunate to visit one of his concerts in Holland and we had a blast….does humor belong in music hahaha h#ll yeah, have a great one

  • @marlon-jl4ge
    @marlon-jl4ge 2 года назад

    This is an insult to other composers, hahahaha

  • @pitfisch1
    @pitfisch1 6 месяцев назад

    Those Lyrics do not have to have any meaning.
    Just like DaDa.
    Voice is just another Instrument.

  • @ricmeister73
    @ricmeister73 2 года назад

    Hopefully the Floss crop wasn't planted in the path of Billy and Ethel. ⛰🌲

    • @tixximmi1
      @tixximmi1 8 месяцев назад

      They could have used that floss sewing up the crack produce from singing, "Oh Mein Papa" in the Earths Crust.