Andretti Drop MASSIVE BOMBSHELL on F1 & FIA!
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- Опубликовано: 8 май 2024
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Andretti has been seeking an entry into Formula One for a while now, and they initially wanted to join the grid as soon as possible, so they were looking at a 2025 entry. But when it became clear that F1 wouldn’t entertain this they quickly switched to a 2026 entry and filed an official entry, which got accepted by the FIA. But then F1 and Liberty Media completely shut the door on them and denied any entry from Andretti or another team until further notice. And that was the end of it you might think. - Развлечения
There were 12 teams not that long ago. Stop acting like it’s been 10 since the 1950’s and get all “Original Six” nostalgic.
It still is 12 teams. The breakdown in all of this is about Formula 1 only paying up to 10 teams. So by the current model 2 teams, if they still had 12 teams on the grid, would receive 0 revenue at the end of the season regardless of whether or not they actually scored points. Williams and Haas would already be out of Formula 1 if 2 other teams were currently competing. Works Teams are a major asset to Formula 1 because they are the underdog and are the giant killers. Thats what made Formula 1 exciting. Jordan did this for years. Benetton and Force India did it as well. Mecachrome and TWR Arrows and others have done it as well. Formula 1's problems revolve around the shift from Works Teams to Manufacturers Teams. Now that Manufacturers Teams run the grid, those Manufacturers pay the team principals to limit losing as much money as possible. So either the FOM and FiA rewrite policy or the sport will fail due to antitrust. Its not that hard to figure out.
I remember when drivers had to qualify not just for a starting grid position, but to be on the grid at all. Maximum number of starters had been 26 for a long long time.
@@joshtheking1772 antitrust would only apply of FIA were the only regulatory body for motorsport and the categories under its wing were the only racing categories in Motorsport. With is very far from the reality, as we have many other federation and racing categories that are quite successful and are not under FIA wing, and also have their own set of restrictive regulations.
F-1 was always a manufacturers Motorsport, it always had manufacturer's teams, indeed the most successful team in F1 history is Ferrari, a manufacturer's team. And when the manufacturer didn't had the inclination to have a team under their name, they would partner with a team, becoming a stock holder and essentially making that team paetlyt own, like McLaren/Honda, McLaren/Mercedes, Williams/Renault, Williams/BMW, etc. They would still have their hands on the regulatory part of FIA, and still steer the teams they worked with towards the direction they wanted or the company would loose their engine supplier and the money invested by the engine manufacturer throw in the team. Most of the truly works teams were off F1 by the the mid 1980s
@@00wheelie00 yep, that was something
The problem with 12 teams is that most of the time, they usualy, were running on the back of the grid without scoring points, without much in terms of sponsors, and that eventually made them financially impossible to sustain, and eventually ended up being sold. Sauber and Jordan, were among the few that ever lasted for a very long time.
If the lawyers find F1 are operating illegally in America they might pass law, where Austin, Miami and Las Vegas can not take part in any future F1 races.
But the owners are in USA so they have to comply "Liberty media"
One of the first time I agree with political intervention.
Why would a bunch of other US business folks lose money for Andretti? You new breed of right wingers are some weird bootlickers.
To Liberty Media, these GPs might be a big thing, but sincerely, for most of the time there wasn't a GP in the US and F1 never had a problem with it.
Yeah but Liberty media wants to wrap the US Market around its finger, in a way F1 never has before. for that they need US team (which they will say HAAS is a US team) US Driver, and US GPs for USA to really care about the sport.@@nichendrix
It is, in my opinion, inexcusable for F1 to keep a name that did so much for the sport from entering, and continuing that legacy.
YES! to more teams on the grid
More teams = more drivers
@@ajharvey19we had 1w teams for a long time. 10 teams is actually new
@@dethtour I'm aware.
Congress could always encourage American corporate sponsors to rethink their support for F1.
Why? Are you another right wing nut job who thinks government is a tool for rich dudes?
Oh boy, I love when flavors of authoritarianism beliefs come out in comments about capitalism. So governments should be able to point a finger and financially cripple a sport, on a whim? That's sexy.
If WEC and IMSA had better broadcasting, I'd probably never tune into an F1 race again
I second that one
IMSA broadcast live on RUclips now
I stopped watching F1 20 years ago. It hasn't been relevant since then. The cars are absolutely boring now. The drivers are insufferable pricks. The rules are crybabyish and insipid and its just not good racing at all.
Same with indycar
Some of the F1 drivers are childish cry babies. All the nit picky rules are ridiculous.
It's the European teams blocking this. I sincerely hope the US FTC can put pressure on the teams to allow Andretti in; or US gov could just charge Mercedes, AM, McClaren, Ferrari, Red Bull, and Stellantis (Renault/Alpine) for monopolistic anti-competitive practices and fine all of their US divisions of business. Something tells me they'd change their tune quickly
The USA only accept monopolistic anti-competative practices when it's to their advantage. Biggest bullies on earth.
Got proof, coz you are just pulling stuff out of your arse atm..........
I like that!
F1 has absolutely been unfair, even irrational, in not allowing Andretti into F1
The existing teams should not have a say in the matter
A 22 car grid would be a step in the right direction. A full rosta used to be 26 cars.
when they were half the size.
@@grrfy That's a fair point
I have regularly criticised the size of current F1 cars and believe they should be made smaller
@@RPLAsmodeus have a look at some comparisons when on the grid modern f1 cars are busses
@@grrfy Oh for sure. I have a picture of Senna in his MP4/8 On My Wall
Yup, they are more than happy to let in engine manufacturers that keep jumping in and out of F1.
If Andretti/Cadillac wouldn't be competitive, who would?
🛑🛑 You don’t know your statement is true. 💯
Until Andretti is given the opportunity and you are proven correct, you’re yelling out the window of a car going down the road at 65 miles per hour.
🤣🤡👍💯
@@genekelley7579 You can use every emoji in the book, but he asked a question based on F1s statement that Andretti/Cadillac wouldn't be competitive, not his statement. 🤡Read next time🤡
Half of the current grid are not competitive with the other half
Locking Andretti out is a huge mistake by the F1
Williams didnt have a spare chasis until a quarter way through the season!
I hate overly dramatic headlines. Andretti dropped a massive bombshell? Tone down the hype, please. Having said that, as an American, I would dearly love to see Andretti Cadillac in F1! So, I imagine would almost every American F1 fan!
I dont care about Andretti or the US races but it makes more interesting for me as a fan to have more cars/teams on the track. Especially when Red Bull owns two teams.
Mercedes and Ferrari are losing their grip on engine supplier money if Andretti/Cadillac enter the series , even more so now that Ford is also entering the series.
Just the idea that American teams and companies are getting involved in the series is making it very uncomfortable
For them. Perhaps F1 isn't about competition but rather a series run on politics. But at the moment F1 is dismantling A sugar/caffeine drink company Redbull as they're getting beat in every race.
Depending on how much pressure the US government puts on Formula 1, it will probably determine whether Andretti will get in or Formula 1 be forced out of the US.
It goes deeper than just that. If there is a determination made that F1 is an anti-competitive cartel, the members themselves could be subject to sanctions, including tariffs on their exports to the US. Like 50-100% tariffs on Mercedes Benz and Ferrari automobiles. Red Bull would also be subject to other sanctions which could hurt their bottom line in the US.
If you only have enough room for 20 cars on the grid maybe we shouldn’t have two car teams
the f1 grid unofficially only has room for about 24 cars
or teams with 4 cars.
Let only the cars that have the best quality times compete in GPs
@@lollygee172 It used (well for about 6-7 years from 1996) to be that drivers couldn't race if their qualifying time was outside of 107% of the fastest driver which caught a few drivers from the slower teams such as Minardi, Jordan, Tyrell and Arrows. Had the same rule been in force last season, Logan Sargeant wouldn't have started the Saudi (144%) and Qatar Grand Prix (137%) and Nyck de Vries the Azerbaijan Grand Prix (113%).
Or we could just not let 1 entity own 2 teams, which is a major conflict of interest...
It's literally illegal in basically every other sport.
This video was so entertaining. I realized my bong is almost 15 years old...
Why do you show a FIA logo or Ben Sulayem’s face every time you speak of F1, FOM or Liberty Media? I always inderstood these are separate entities.
US Congress has the power to keep F1 from racing on American soil and even banning all F1 commercials/advertising until such time as Congress deems them no longer a monopoly. Liberty Media would do well to look back at US history and see what has happened to so many monopolies and how they have been broken apart by the US Government.
We have a shit ton of monopolies now. They don't really do much about it anymore.
@@bkelton0 True, I don't believe that they've properly investigated a company for monopolistic tendencies since 2001.
its al about the money...... 🙂
Doesnt the amount to join f1 jump up alot in the next year's from 200 mil to 800?
i think it would fall under anticompetitive practices
In the European Union, competition law promotes the maintenance of competition within the European Single Market by regulating anti-competitive conduct by companies to ensure that they do not create cartels and monopolies that would damage the interests of society.
The EU has strict rules protecting free competition. Under these rules, certain practices are prohibited. If you infringe the EU's competition rules, you could end up being fined as much as 10% of your annual worldwide turnover.
They’re adding more GP’s and sprints every year, which brings in more revenue. Not to mention they’re changing the points system. I 100% believe Toto, Christina, and other team leaders vetoed it so F1 did as well.
Saying a General Motors backed team won't be competitive while Haas, Williams, Alpine and Kick Sauber are running is laughable. They want US money but not US competition.
They make a fortune from three F1 races in America but won’t allow an American team in on their party? I think not!
Basically, current teams are now tasting money from the popularity and don't want to share it. So they are just making some shitty reasons.
absolutely want to see the on the grid
Should Andretti seek entry with Honda? Andretti already race Hondas in IndyCar and Honda are already in F1.
wouldn't be an all american team then would it.Which is their big selling point
@grrfy maybe that was a mistake on Andretti's part, selling an all American team. Haas didn't even do that.
Could use HONDA for 2 seasons until THE CADDY is up SNUFF powerwise and reliable!
A company should not own 2 teams such as red bull
GM is trying to make a comeback to the European market so neither really have a choice but partner up.
Whoever is in charge of the video titles need a negative raise lol
Literally everything is a bombshell in your titles, maybe try something more creative next time
Thats all the f1 channels "so and so drops BOMBSHELL" and there's no bombshell. Just stuff we know already.
@@tortuga7160 yeah you’re right that’s probably why we notice it so much - but for sure doesn’t make the titles any better if everyone‘s doing it haha
I've never seen teams fight so hard for the right to continue losing.
If Haas is allowed to compete then there’s no reason not to let Andretti in
Let Andretti with Gm in, today there are 20 teams bu only 4 engine brands, one more would be great, when I was young there were 24 teams, and had to do a minimum time at qualifying to be able to race, that was great.
As an european fan I want more teams in F1, no mather where you are from.
Liberty media doesn’t seem to have a problem with collecting the revenue generated by the three races within the US. Seems like US revenue is ok for F1 but US teams drivers and manufacturers not so much.
If wins and podiums are so important to F1, then run it like a Football league. Any team that doesn't get a podium or win in the current year gets relegated to F2, and an equal number of F2 podium/winning teams move up (and get the share of the money since that is what its really all about anyway).
I hope Andretti actually wins a lawsuit and gets on the grid. If the rules say a team must fight for wins and podiums, theres atleast 4 teams shat should be booted out of F1 already.
12 teams is also an inherently closed grid. Just with 2 teams more.
More teams is what the PEOPLE want!
No... the current format has never seen that many competitive teams for a while, and they finally are financially viable teams ! That's why Andretti wants to enter now, because it's an easy period to enter, and that's why many are against it. Buy Haas if they want to get in...
i really hope a new team joined F1 we need more teams always have done. i dont care who the team owner is we just need more teams. if its andretti then yea lets get them in.
Between Andretti/Cadillac and Alpine or Haas...uh, yeah, I'd say give 'em a shot. Couldn't be worse.
Yes I would like to see them in F1
The problem is the team's pricipal/director i.e toto, christian, hass and so on, they don't want their pie share to decrease and they have far too much say/influence on F1. Because F1 is terrified the teams will break away like they attempted a while ago
There was no problem when L Stroll Senior joined!
He bought a team.
I WANT Cadillac in F1! They'll be my team if they join!
Good should be more teams
Formula One is my absolute passion and I live and breathe it every day, the decision to block Andretti Cadillac from joining in 2025 is very unjust, and it wreaks of greed and unsportsmanlike behaviour from the owners and established teams. I applaud Andretti for taking this stance and I hope the US Government can successfully assist in bringing one of motorsports most revered names back into F1. Good luck Michael.
I believe F1 should take a leaf from premier league football, the last two teams with lowest points demoted to F2 and first and second from F2 promoted to F1. Put some excitement back into it and give the teams something to fight for, it will also make the season much more exciting for the fans.
Impossible... The development of a car takes more than 1 year, so promoting or demoting doesn't make sense.
Plus F2 teams don't want to go to F1. They are often partnering with F1 teams, sharing knowledge, and being used to train pilots to F1. There is no way for it to work.
It's not like football where you just buy new players when in the new league. The needs for F1, the budget for F1 are not comparable. The team size is not the same. The F2 car is the same for all teams. So that means that they would have to build in 3 months a factory, a wind tunnel, models for developing F1 cars, hire thousands of experienced employees, and build the car.
It makes no sense.
I wonder if it's just the European teams/brands scared that an American team might overtake them?
more so the teams are afraid of being unviable again financially like how over half of the grid used to be before costcap era. Hell Mclaren was about to go bankrupt and have to sell their F1 team and they are one of the most succesful teams in F1. So what the lower end F1 teams are afraid of is that if 11th team comes, their prize money and sponsors will lower and that then they can no longer be a part of F1. F1 in return is afraid if teams start going away their whole league is going to start losing money because who would watch Ferrari race against Red bull and Mercedes?
And last time new teams joined they were under in just few years, without bringing anything to the sport.
Now try to enter a team in the NFL or NBA
Idk why the teams don’t pay an entry fee for the season, disconnected from the cost cap, could be based on team standing in the championship and the more teams the better. This whole money argument from the dis seems ridiculous. Just get creative and give us more racing.
Cadillac/GM and someone like bmw or toyota back in f1 would make it a bit more interesting, or get rid of garbage like haas.
I was in Europe in 1978 when Mario won the championship and they seemed to accept his skills...YES let them be part of F1!
How is that relevant?
How is the pilot's skill related to the team's skill?
Alain Prost showed that there is no connection at all.
And Andretti is not even that good in American motor sports, so in f1...
As far as I can remember, in all the long history of Formula 1, the US Congress has never gotten directly involved in the sport. They fact that they are now asking questions on behalf on Andretti speaks volumes to how far F1 has come as a popular and accepted sport is the US. Obviously the fact that we now have three races, which Bernie had always wanted to make happen, reflects that awareness and acceptance too.
As much as I cannot stand Jim Jordan, it’s nice to see him finally taking a stand on something relevant. Personally, I think the deeper reason for Andretti’s denial is routed in the fear of a potential US dominance of the sport. Liberty Media shocked the world when they bought the rights. Now there’s three US races on the calendar. Ford is coming back and now Andretti, a name that is synonymous with motorsports, and Cadillac are wanting to jump into the fray. Where will it end?
Even Italy and the UK can’t get more than one or two races, if you count Imola as a second “Italian” GP. So yes, it’s about money and the delusion of the total prize pot, but it’s also about ego and trying to keep America from dominating the sport.
Yes....Antitrust lawsuit. Anticompetitive law suit.
Well done by the yanks. There is a strong need to be more teams in F1.
I think this is a throw back to when Virgin, Caterham, HRT days when the grid were split in 2 by a considerable amount. Which was sort of embarrassing for F1 allowing to happen in the pursuit to add cars and teams to the grid. But as a possible new team nobody even F1 and Andretti know how they will match up against the current grid, that also applies to Audi in 2026. Will they be competitive or not, that question is up in the air. So I say get them on the grid and allow them to put their money where their mouth is.
Re: Audi... they bought Sauber, an already existing LOSING team. Sauber's owners were protected by F1. That's the "closed house" protectionism that IS Formula 1. That's why Audi doesn't need to "prove they are competitive" before being allowed in. F1 excludes outside entry for "assumed" non-performance, yet PROVEN LOSERS cannot be removed from contention by the same metric.
Andretti deserved to be F1. The problem is the Europeans doesn’t want any time from America they only want for América is money.
The F1 promotors, the people that have said Andretti cannot compete, are American. Pay attention there at the back of the class.
@@philipgrice1026it's all money. If they have another team on the grid. It means less jersey money coming in for certain teams and sponsors will move to andretti and gm because everyone wants a serious f1 team so they can't allow someone to shake the game
@@philipgrice1026 Liberty Media is playing this for all the publicity they can get. Publicity equals MONEY, and no publicity is bad publicity, "clicks" get paid. Drama leads to clicks. They are playing the odds and as soon as those odds start leaning to the losing side, they will cave.
As I understood before the last denial, Liberty Media, the owners of F1 had all of the power to make the call, they allowed the teams to voice their opinion via vote. FOM didn't have the power to veto, only a voice at the table. Liberty sided with them, and will now have to face the consequences. If it ends up in court, they will either cave to the legal system or stick with a small group of wealthy team owners. And not one of those teams has the power to dissolve Liberty Media and block F1 from 3 races they have spent fortunes to secure in the schedule. The US Congress DOES!
there is an official/unofficial ruling of 12 or 13 teams max right now only due to their being a ruling of for the track to be fia f1 compliant (dont know the exact code or what ever) states they must have a minimum of 26 pit boxs. aka enough pits for 13 teams they use one for the safety cars so thats where the 12 is at. back in the day they used to have way more teams and they compeeted for grid slots at every race. so q1 would be way more crazy. alot of things would more than likely change and be odd for the first little bit. but again i think andretti would bring many benifits to the grid. other teams like red bull ferrari merc all shouldnt care due too do they really think andretti will place higher than them in the constructors? if so andretti will bring value. the lower teams sure but even then it will be fine.
the thing for the teams is that even if Andretti wont win against them in the series they would still gain less prize money (if of course the amount of prize money was not changed to accomodate a 11th team.
The fact that he had to go and cry to politics to get it solved says enough
What happened to competition....
Add a "relegation" provision for the lowest scoring teams. make way for new entrants be them US, Aussie, Nigeria, or whomever.
Do the same in the NBA, NFL, and all American sports and then they can give lessons to the world.
Good it’s about time someone asked for answers on this, FIA and the F1 are as corrupt as they come. If they want competitive racing well they need to get rid of the bottom 5 teams or rethink their own requirements.
To be fair to the FIA, they approved Andretti.
Politics aside there should be at least 12 teams if not 13
There were always 12 teams. 10 teams is actually new
I thought Liberty would be better pulling the curtains off of F1. Nope. They are as bad as it has always been.
US congress will probably fine F1 and if its based on what it has been in big cases, F1 teams are going to lose a lot more value than having another team on the grid.
Sorry but is F1, popular in the US?
To throw an alternative viewpoint, would it be possible to enter a team into the NFL,NBA or MLB then if they are Pro Competition?
I’d like to see Andretti in F1. I’ve always liked seeing new teams enter. Unfortunately they tend to be a bit shit. Pacific, Simtek, Forti, Lola. You wouldn’t want to be in that group.
There HAVE been expansions to those leagues in the past. Cities/potential owners have petitioned and have been let in... It doesn't ha[[pen often, and a lot of that is due to the financial requirements and the need for a city to be onboard. But compare this to say NASCAR or INDYCAr where pretty much anyone can show up and try to qualify and compete. Even thought NASCAR now has their whole franchise thing, that was mostly to give some value to the team owners, and even then there are a few non-franchise spots on the grid.
F1 is basically a closed shop and locking out competition from showing up. They're afraid of losing their profit margins, and having only 3-4 teams that have a chance of winning and then filling out the rest of the grid with "no chancers" benefits those couple powerhouse teams, and even the no chancers aren't incentivized to let anyone else in without potentially losing what little revenue they have coming to them under the condord agreements.
IMO, if they don't want to let an American team with American drivers and American engine manufacturers in to play, then they can do so WITHOUT American tracks, and American TV revenue, etc.... You want to lock us out? Fine, we can do the same. And they need the USA more than the USA needs F1... We have PLENTY of other equally interesting and technically advanced racing series here in the USA.
All I hear is F1 & FIA say is "Adding Value" and nothing about adding to Show or on track racing. Guess Money rules over Racing, like adding more street courses.
And those 2 are connected.
Many Americans are crybabies who take this against the US...
1. There are new rules to be implemented, it's ridiculous to have a new team for the last year of this F1 car format. It's absurd, a waste of money. Why applying for 2025?
2. The F1 is finally a commercially viable sport for the teams. This gives them more means to get better, and improves the competition. 1 more team = dilution of the income, and it makes it less likely for small teams to be economically viable.
Keeping F1 financially viable is important. Diluting the income will bring major issues when there will be an economic crash. So yes, the status quo is better for the sport.
3. Andretti can buy a team if they are serious ! But they want the cheap version.
FYI the FIA has approved the Andretti entry but cannot force FOM to let them actually in
Monaco can't fit another pit garage.
they have run more cars there before
So Andretti and Cadillac should build a complete car, put it on any or all F1 circuits and either prove it is competitive or not. Yeah, that's a lot of money but frankly money doesn't seem to be an issue for either Andretti or Cadillac. Since Cadillac already competes at the high end of auto racing it likely can build an engine that stands with the best there are in the current field. Would Dallara build the Andretti car? I don't know. It makes Indy cars. But it also builds Haas F1 cars which aren't exactly competitive even with a Ferrari engine. My point is simple: prove it can compete and F1's arguments become irrelevant. I think the only countries that consistently has three races are Italy and the U.S. There's alot of money to be found in the good old USA if F1 wants to tap into more deply by adding an Andretti/Cadillac car. And hasn't F1 had more than 10 teams in the past?
That could lead to anti trust laws in that can easily break down the company four f one
Yes, I believe that Andretti was excluded because the current teams are happy with the current order of things and are not interested in change. Implying that Andretti will be worse than Haas and Williams is silly. I suspect that the real truth is that they are afraid of what they might consider an unfair advantage Andretti has in that it will not be under the cost cap until it joins so, it can currently spend an unlimited amount of money to create a car and other infrastructure for the 2026 car which other teams cannot.
Nail meet head. 🙌👏
Indeed my friend, indeed.
The U.S. Congress has much more important things to do then waste time on this. I would like to see Andretti on the grid but my government has many more important things to do then to get involved in this.
It’s Jim Jordan. His pass times are allowing systematic sexual abuse of college kids and taking bribe money. Guessing Andretti cut him a decent check to look into this.
Yeah, like letting more criminal illegals into our country faster.
Why not seems good to me more the merry
Andretti still has a massive fan base over here. I’ve already seen grumbling about USA fans walking away if that team doesNot get a fair shot. Because it looks like they want American money without a real contender American team. Sure, if they sign up and blow chunks. Ok. But with GMs serious support and Cadillacs good sports car racing history of the last 20 years. It should work out.
Andretti should be in F1 but are kept out because they will be much better than weaker teams so the door is closed. Wrong get in there and kick ass.
If a US company feels that it can t compeed in a normal way let s call the politics and protect allegedly US "interests". The world has to give them back vis a versa. The US is not the center of the world.
It’s not about being competitive, it’s about revenue! If I told any of the people advocating for Andretti to share their household income with me would they say yes, sure! Of course not!
Then why should F1 reams want to loose money to accommodate Andretti?
And it’s not about the USA because there is a USA team on the grid, it’s just not Andretti! And they suck by the way….
And the criticism is right, being on F1 far more benefits Andretti than they other way around.
easy solution. get rid of haas or wiliams or sauber or Vcarb
Sauber is purchased by Audi.
And why getting rid? Andretti is free to buy those companies...
Or let's say that we could do the same, get rid of the worst NBA teams, because there are anti-trust issues right?
I would like nothing more than Andretti's and Cadilac get into F1, and I want Cadilac to build their own engines, especially with NASCAR in total failure mode, F1 does not want GM to dive in headfirst, when GM gets sericeous things happen GM builds power plants second to none, that's their fear.
FOM and the teams are being protectionist.
Reality is Andretti/Cadillac could win. That is a problem. Protectionism does not want someone new/unknown that could win.
at one time there were more than 24 cars on the grid but only 24 could qualify ... they should be allowed in competition is good...however I do see the American Congress as a very very big negative about getting involved ... it's a world sport, not an American sport .... I would hate it to become an American sport with American rules, it ruins all sports which is why American sports aren't taken up outside of America !!!
Make it simple for them, if Andretti can't honestly compete, there will be no F1 racing in the US. Simple solution, if we can't compete on the world's stage, then the world can't compete on our stages. Make sure the locations (US race locations) know this is F1's fault, not the US's.
Rare "Gym" Jordan W
Yeah, but I'd rather they had found someone more respectable. The fact that most people who are into f1 aren't American, they won't know how much of a piece of shit Jordan is.
I can get along with people who I disagree with, and am happy to find allies across the political aisle, but I draw the line at ignoring abuse of children...
The day is here when I actually agree with Jim Jordan on something….wow
Well......Gym Jordan isn't even a lawyer, so don't know how much help he could really be.......pretty much worthless in actual congress lawmaking and investigations.....
FOM wanted politic, so, they got politic
This is all Bull shit , LET THEM IN !.
Allow them in, and let them qualify, slowest car sits out of the race, this would force some of the slowest teams to get off their ass.
Red Bull has 2 teams. You can dress it up however you like, it's still 2 teams and 4 main drivers. How is that fair? Get rid of their B team and bring in Andretti.
Yes I would like this I do like The Sardi president 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
They have Bob Hope of that succeeding imo.Another thing it's not Congress, it's one Representative.With a poor reputation.Gannasi or Penske would have a better chance.
Penske entered F1 decades ago He is like Haas, a billionaire who prefers maximizing his net worth over winning races.
Somebody tell these European team principals and those fellows at F1 that a US congressional investigation during election season, where many of those people's seats are on the line, is bad for their business, since thise senators and congressmen will do anything to make their names recognizable to their constituents, and being lawmakers, they can do anything within the bounds of law to make life miserable to their parent companies. An extreme version of the "chicken tax" law, wherein they can make a say, 200% tariff on Mercedes-Benz, Ferrari or Aston Martin or McLaren cars... they can do it! Force Stellantis and Daimler-Benz to drop their US divisions? They can. Ban F1 races in the US? Easy. These maybe extreme examples, but if I were them, don't underestimate these people, especially during election season, where their jobs are at the mercy of their constituents.
Hopefully this means F1 will leave America because I don't think they deserve to race here if they don't let new teams on the grid.
"Deserve racing in the US"?
What does that even mean? Like racing in the US is a privilege? Come on, that's absurd to believe that... The circuits in the US are not that great...
@@fabr5747cota? It's the best purpose built track for f1. Everyone loves to race there.
@@dethtour Sure, people love it more than Spa, Monaco, Japan, Silverstone, etc...
@@dethtour By the way, funny you say that as an obvious statement from your perspective.
Verstappen doesn't like it. He criticised the quality of the track. And he was not the only one. Many mentioned how terribly bumpy it is in 2023 !
Comment? Not F1 level.
And because of that, in 2023, drivers were disqualified.
@@fabr5747 cota has the highest attendance record from any track year after year. I've raced at that track at gt class. And it's an amazing track just because some of these drivers can't drive doesn't mean it's not a good track
No
If the 11th team received zero dollars at the end of the season then Andretti would get zero if they were uncompetitive. If they finished 10th or higher they would get the prize money. Problem solved. Weakest team may be eliminated by lack of funds. Could Alpine Williams or Haas survive? GM Andretti would.
I dont see how they can deny them with some of those excuses when yiu have Williams and Haas who suck so badly snd also a RB jr team which will never compete for a championship
It's all about politics and money. The teams don't want to share the money and if your face doesn't fit politically then they don't want in the circus of f1.
The Andretti name does not bring the prestige of Alpine or Racing Bulls or KickStake or whatever.
what is Alpine? Renault, which has been in F1 for long ass time, Racing bulls? used to be Minardi, Kick? Sauber. Sauber? Sauber has been part of motorsports since 90s. What you are saying is that their current names don't hold much value, but you forget all those teams have been there for multiple years by now, before the cost cap and now that the teams are finally financially viable they don't want competition to make them unviable again.
Williams is the only bad team that I'am happy to see stay in the sport. The rest can go under and I wouldn't care. HAAS, Alpine, Alpha Tauri are all uncompetitive. Sauber may be saved by Audi.