Hi Zaccheus, great video and Voice over. Thanks for all of the explanations of what you were doing. Hats off to the Crane operator. You have to put a lot of trust in them that they get everything lifted off without incident. I often wonder how they removed big trees like that before the days of Truck Cranes. Loved the video and am a new Subscriber.
@benburns5995 Hey Ben, thanks for subscribing! Most of my channel is full of videos with manual rigging. It's a little more modern that the days of old before cranes, but it uses a lot of the same principles. I have a video coming out this weekend that has some tricky rigging in it. You might enjoy it. I have been very blessed to work woth excellent crane operators. I trust them and their machine with my life and the trust me to nit cut too big a piece off and tip the crane over.
@@rosemeadows6920 I’m glad you’re here! Honestly, I found the industry the same way. I stumbled on a video of a fella taking down pine trees out west. I thought it looked like fun so I bought some gear and gave it a go. Now I’m hooked and it’s my full time job
@zaccheus I'm seriously impressed at how easy you make it look. I appreciate the skill it takes that you have in making it look that way. Stay safe and I look forward to watching more of your skillful tree work. Got to say if I was in my youth again it's something I would be interested in doing too as I love trees.🤗
Yessir, that was a big 'un. Good stuff as always. Back in the dark ages when I did iron work, we were taught to simply turn the pin down until it stopped. They have the ability to self tighten when under a load. Understand what point UR trying to make. As always stay safe, buddy.
@ClellWise Honestly, I have a hard time seeing why they need to be tightened to the stop. Some scientist somewhere probably has a good reason so I guess I'll do it 🤷♂️
Thank you for the great video. So glad to see you guys reeeeeally know what you're doing so that you stay safe. I had no idea tree removal was so tough, guess I just remember reading Paul Bunyan stories as a youngster where he chopped it down at the base. xoxoxo
Im in no way a tree guy but helped a buddy occasionally that had a tree business. I just did the ground work and thats labor intensive. Being a climber has to be rough. I mainly work on cars but ive done several side gigs from concrete to framing houses to setting up trade shows. Tree work is definitely near the top in just hard labor.
@VP0w3r Absolutely, I do lots of work with less experienced crews or crews, and it's makes a huge difference to have organized, experienced folks on the ground. Haha yeah, I love the zigzag for drt work. I just never climb drt without a crane on site so it doesn't get used unless a crane is getting used.
Shackle handle toward the wood can make it difficult to take the shackle off, once the pick is on the ground. 👍 Edit: I remember my first crane pick. I didn’t even find out how much it could handle at the angle and distance. The operator didn’t know how much wood weighed either. I cut where he said and the crane couldn’t handle it. It turned into a fiasco real quick. I’m glad you have a good head on your shoulders. I didn’t back then. Thank you for sharing your content and please keep it up. Great job.
@geoffreygreen297 oh nooo, that sounds like the things of nightmares! I'm hope everything made it out okay. And yes! I had the shackle pointed the wrong way 😅
@@zaccheus 60 foot staub, 4 foot diameter at the top, with 10 foot long log on top, falling across a soaked, manicured lawn. 😱😂 A big no no in our line of work. 😂 I had to give you a picture to see in your head. Have a blessed week!👋
Another great job,it's just fascinating to watch you up there cutting that tree down. It's a shame we have to cut down Big trees but with them rotting it is dangerous. 👍
@sandib4234 It is a shame. I'm always a little sad when we cut down big trees. It's also super important to protect the occupants of a nearby house and if I have to choose between a tree or a person, I'll choose to save the person every time.
That's why you 'boom up' instead of 'cable up' when you first lift a heavy load. Takes care of the boom deflection. Some new cranes automatically do that for the operator but I haven't tried it yet.
@boomupengineering thay makes a lot of sense. It's becaise you mentioned that before that I knew what was going on there. This crane company is heavily focused on tree work and I don't think they loft heavy all thay often. I do know that they try to keep the boom as short as they can to keep things static and stable.
True veteran crane operator here . Always boom up a touch to account for deflection or load swings out away increase radius and can overload Crane lmi even flip rig over .
@MitzvosGolem1 thabks for sharing your knowledge amd experience. We typically don't work with tight enough margins to put ourselves at risk for a failure like that, but that's certainly no excuse to not make an effort to be better. The crane operator has been in the industry far longer than I have. If I get a chance to make a gentl suggestion, I will.
@MitzvosGolem1 I often work with iron workers, but I rig with all crafts now. Problem comes when the signalman either doesn't understand boom deflection or he depends on an operator who may or may not compensate. I instruct riggers to properly and explicitly signal their operator instead of assuming anything. I hate when a payload lifts off and the guys scatter because the load takes off one way or another. For heavy loads, I think it's best to spot the hook over CG, cable up to take 10-20% and tighten the rigging, then boom up the rest until lift-off.
Does the weight of the crane ever adversely affect the concrete? That concrete looks really nice. Hate to think any damage might happen. I’m sure it’s all calculated beforehand. Thanks, great video.
@woodworker3122 It can! The strength of concrete can depend a lot on what under it and if the ground is soft under there or the concrete is of low quality, the crane can break it. We try to avoid setting up outrigger on the edge because that is the weakest part. But even the crane itself is heavy just driving in and out. I think that truck weighs right around 60,000 pounds. A lot of companies will ask the customer to sign a driveway waiver.
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have you tried cutting normally and watching the curf instead of the v cut? I find you can have nice static lifts consistently as you can tell if the crane has too much or too little tension.
@snipe3774 yeah, I'll cut straight across for some situations. It seems to work well when we have a vertical piece with two slings on it and we don't anticipate any lateral movement as the piece comes off. It's obviously easier to cut then. If the pick it set up so that the crane has to stand the piece up a little bit before lifting it off of the cut, the v cut just helps hold the butt it in place a little while the crane operator is getting piece's center of gravity under the ball.
@@zaccheus ah okay makes sense. Sometimes we use a set of chains and a sling (sometimes 2 sets of chains) to stop rotation and movement if it’s a real ugly tree. I like watching your videos because you seem to put an emphasis on doing things ‘the right way’ (regarding safety and gear) which is different for some people… keep it up man
@dankotos61 yeahhh! I heard about that too. Sounds like a pretty miraculous experience. I think he was buried and pinned down with brush but hopped up and walked away as soon as they got him out. Incredible that he wasn't crushed my the boom or any tree parts.
@deadmanswife3625 haha it's okay, I've always had a young face and I'll probably be called a kid for another 10 years atleast. I've accepted it. Thanks for coming to my defense, I really appreciate your loyalty to this channel 😊
@boomupengineering haha I know, I know, I just don't want to buy them myself because they're a little pricey for co tract climber wages 😅 but the safety factor would be worth it. I really like the hook we used in another video, but the crane company doesn't like to use them because they had a climber hook stuff up wrong once. Ilk ask if they'd be comfortable letting me use the twist lock units and maybe I'll buy some.
@@zaccheus If I had my choice, I'd probably run a 2-leg bridle on the crane. That gives you hooks on the ends to connect to short, sacrificial slings to choke around the tree without shackles. No shackles and the short slings are cheap and easy to replace when they get worn. That and you could vary their lengths a little to help when you need a short leg and a long leg. What would be really cool is a bridle of Tycan synthetic chain. Then you can adjust length really easy. Unfortunately Tycan chain makes everything else seem dirt cheap! It is a Dyneema fabric chain made by Van Beest who also makes Green Pin shackles. I use Tycan chain fairly often at work to avoid needing chain falls. I know though, one can't buy every fancy tool or else you go broke.
@boomupengineering Haha, for sure. I've definitely come to the realization before that I've worked so I could spend money on things for more work. You gotta spend money to make money, but there is a balance to it, too. The default setup woth this crane company is taking the sling off of the hook, girthing it onto the tree, and then placing it back on the hook. Supposedly, OSHA doesn't particularly like that. I don't like it just because it's a lot of lifting over my shoulders often and it means you have to keep the hook right there while getting everything connected. Those twistlock shackles wpuod be nice. I might give them a try. I have other things I can use them for that might help justify the cost.
4:01 handle part of the shackle pin against the wood not a big deal, but not ideal, I try to not do it, but I won't waste time fixing it usually, especially on small picks
@oscartheg6674 thanks man! There was definitely a lot of wood in this tree. I don't know how many cords it wpukd have yielded, but it wpukd have been a lot
Hey Zach, nice work! When did you get a new dump truck? Looks like you've been using the V-cut on the last 2 videos with crane work. Is that working better than the snap cuts you were doing?
@MikeBrooks12550 just recently, I'll have a video about it before too long 😊 Yeah the v cuts take a little more time from the climber, but the snap cuts take a little more time from the crane operator. I'd say the v cuts are a little smoother experience for everyone. I imagine that's what I'll stick to for the most part
@dharc6982 Absolutely. I've used it some. It is faster than making a V cut. I think the crane operator here prefers the V cut beciaee it tends to hold onto the bottom of the piece a little better while he stands the piece up.
@mackhopper It had some decay pockets which can be structural issues and with it being so close to the house, it was important to take it down before it gave up in a wind storm. I do get a little sad when we take big tree down though. They can't be bought.
@orjhol unfortunately this species isn't really good for making lumber out of. The structure of the tree causes the wood to grow with a lot of internal stress which makes board curl and warp when that are cut on a sawmill. This tree went to a local mulch yard where it will be recycled and turn into hardwood mulch for flowerbeds. We try to save the ones we can though! My dining room table is made out of a local tree!
I lift a lot of HVAC equipment, can’t tell you how important a good crane operator is to a successful lift and placement. I’ve had sketchy operators and the difference is enormous and sometimes frightening. He lowers a load just a fraction to fast and it’s goodbye fingers or toes.
@chrismoody1342 Absolutely! This company we were working with has only two operators, but they're both really good at tree work and I'm very thankful to have their experience onsite when we do these big trees
@wayne3754 Oh, I didn't count. It was a pretty average day. Maybe 6 or so hours aloft amd another hour or so of dealing with that big wood and getting things cleaned up.
I'm not 100% sure what you did wrong whith that shackle..... I'm thinking that it has something to do with which way the pin is (screwing up or down)? That was a huge tree and a really sweet job!! I'd have liked to see more of it as I'm definitely in the group that enjoy longer videos. Still awesome to watch 😊 I always think it's a shame to dump the wood as that trunk would have made some amazing slabs...... or fire wood 😂 Thanks for the video 😊👍👍👍👍👍
@Zogg1281 You guessed it! I had the pin flipped the wrong way. It wasn't critical, but it try to make it so that the tab on the pin doesn't engaged with the tree and makes things loose or super tight. That's good feedback to hear. I often get nervous that they just get really repetitive especially on crane jobs where every pick is very similar and the small differences are hard to capture on camera. I'm thinking about getting a different camera that might allow me to switch things up a bit.
Zach, nice job. I have seen some huge silver maples. Once again, I didn't look too bad, not a lot of rot in tree. But people are scared of being so close to house. I knew the crane had to be moved back to get more capacity. Do you chare your buddy day rate or percentage of jobs you do with him. Guys around here, the Philly area are getting 5 to 800 per day for subbing
@robertvannicolo4435 Thankfully this one wasn't too rotten. It did have some voids in it that I thought would turn into something bigger, but nothing crazy. I have a set fee that usually ends up in that window you described there. I don't ask for a percentage or anything because I don't do anything to help sell the job.
@@W4iteFlame most of it goes the the mulch yard to be turned into mulch, but some of it goes to firewood. Very rarely we will send logs to the mill if they’re nice. It’s rare because a lot of mills don’t want logs from urban trees.
@lesthiele4921 Australia? That's super cool. Thanks for chiming in! This tree went to much. This species is pretty soft and doesn't make very good boards or slabs. The structure of the tree also tends to store some internal stress which is release and warps the boards when it is milled
@thepubliceye Nope. That's why it's important to be familiar woth different species and how their weight changes throughout the seasons. We typically work with pretty big margins in case our estimation if the weight is wrong.
@destinydushane2107 That facility grinds it up and sells it as mulch. It gives the tree a little bit if a second purpose and return the carbon back to urban lots
Very relaxing to watch after all my garden work today. I always feel a bit sad when a very old tree has to go - why do we humans take precedence over the trees but I suppose the wood can be used in some way and we all go back into the earth eventually and it was too big to be so close to houses.
@janesmith9024 Ah, I know what you mean. I'm always sad to see someone choose to take a tree down. Ultimately my job is about keeping people safe. People do have more value than trees so sometimes the trees gotta when they endanger the people.
Do you have to take into consideration cutting too much weight off of one side in the case of multiple trunks, in case the trunks start splitting at the crotches and falling apart. (If I said that right.)
@marymulrooney1334 That's a fair concern! I've never heard of a tree falling apart or uprooting because it because unbalanced during disassembly. I guess anything it possible, though 😬 I think the root system would have to be compromised for something like that to happen.
@zaccheus I meant splitting at the crotch where all the separate big tree trucks/limbs meet. But I guess it would have to be really rotten to split there.
@marymulrooney1334 I don't think it would be subject to splitting at a union due to imbalance. I'm just soectulating, but it think it wpukd be at the highest risk of that when both side of the tree are still present because then each side is pulling away from the other. If one side is gone, only the remaining side woukd be pulling away.
@@combak2712 they might. It’s soft maple so it would be very hard to work with and very difficult to preserve once made into a table. I definitely don’t have the wood working skills to do it. I think I’d be really cool too, but nobody actually wants to do it
@ it’s harder than you think. That have to be able to come out the same day I’m there and they have to have the appropriate equipment to remove the log whole without doing any damage to the client’s property. Most of the time it’s cheaper for them to buy a log off of a forestry job somewhere
Oh my goodness the camera does have a very deceitful angle. That tree is massive. I’ve worked on a lot of magnolia trees and many species but just wanted to share a comment of great video. Thanks for being awesome fellow tree guy. Joe
@peterunderdown4374 Most of those big, huge pieces are very difficult to process into firewood due to their size and gnarly grain structure. It's often most effective to take them to a local mulch yard where they grind them up and resell as dyed mulch. It's actually a nice way to return the carbon back to urban lots. Maybe not the best, but better than nothing
@RollnRye74 Unfortunately, the stress can stay in the wood until it's cut. It's not a sure fire thing, but when a log has lateral force on it from leaning or an uneven canopy, the tree grows to resist the lean or never weight distribution. That resistance then can be stored in the log until the log is cut into boards. Mills prefer long, straight trees that grow in the forest because they typically grow evenly and are more likely to make straight boards when they are cut on the mill.
@@JP-vs1ys I agree. There are lots of disappointing things about the whole tree planting industry. A prime one is the biggest city near here, Cleveland, Ohio, planting invasive species for decades so much so that nurseries sold the trees as “Cleveland select.” Now that species is illegal to plant anywhere in the state. Nurseries are also ways trying to breed “better” species to suit their customers and they end up trading structural traits for appearance traits. A good example is red maple. Most of the trees I remove get taken down because people are scared of them falling on their homes. It’s a mighty fair concern, but it would indeed be nice to see folks interested in replanting.
@izzy123412457 A different contractor ground out the stump, I believe. Maples in general tend to be rather hydrotropic it seems. They're always pushing roots up through the grass too.
Great skill and teamwork! it would be nice for us armchair viewers if you could set up a ground view tripod stationary camera so we could see maybe a time lapse of the take down at the end of you video......
@@willaerley7140 🤷♂️ I’m just the contract climber. I don’t ask how much the jobs are so I don’t feel bad about what I’m missing out on by not taking on jobs myself 😅
Maybe somebody already said this, but why not tie a string between your pin and some other part of your gear, so that if you drop the pin, you can just pull it back to yourself with the string?
@merryhunt9153 Nobody else had suggested that. It's a good idea. The struggle might be that the pin would need to be tied to the shackle and if it were just tied around the bar of the shackle, it would likely get damaged by the load in the shackle. It might be worth trying though. Thanks for the thought!
@Lissa71 It's all a balance. It's important to keep the tree as long as you can without incurring extra Rick my doing so. There are appropriate ways to determine the structural health of a tree and a good 3rd part arborist will be able to give you an good evaluation.
@marymulrooney1334 I've never looked into the cost, but I have had a customer or two request we leave a high stump for them to get a carver. I think it typically works best with harder woods.
@@bayodaman I'm not really sure. I am an independent contractor and work for several different tree services. I don't really ask how much they cost. Probably 3.5k to 4.5k 🤷♂️
I like your videos but the music is definitely not necessary it takes away from the video you figured you got the sound of the saw cutting the machinery and your commentary and then you have music on top of it it's too much.
Hi Zaccheus, great video and Voice over. Thanks for all of the explanations of what you were doing.
Hats off to the Crane operator. You have to put a lot of trust in them that they get everything lifted off without incident. I often wonder how they removed big trees like that before the days of Truck Cranes.
Loved the video and am a new Subscriber.
@benburns5995 Hey Ben, thanks for subscribing! Most of my channel is full of videos with manual rigging. It's a little more modern that the days of old before cranes, but it uses a lot of the same principles. I have a video coming out this weekend that has some tricky rigging in it. You might enjoy it.
I have been very blessed to work woth excellent crane operators. I trust them and their machine with my life and the trust me to nit cut too big a piece off and tip the crane over.
You make it seem so easy. So glad you take your time to do the job safely. Keep these Vlogs coming to us followers.😊👍🌲🍰
Thanks man, it's all just a result of practice and the teaching I've recieved from others
Great work 🪓🫡 always awesome seeing a tree removed safely and efficiently well done
Nice job Zach thanks for talking to us.
Don't know what it is about cutting tree down but I could watch it for hours. Great job guys!!
@bobbynewton9247 Thanks, Bobby!
I never thought there would be a day when I'd find watching somebody cutting down a tree so fascinating. 💁♀️
@@rosemeadows6920 I’m glad you’re here! Honestly, I found the industry the same way. I stumbled on a video of a fella taking down pine trees out west. I thought it looked like fun so I bought some gear and gave it a go. Now I’m hooked and it’s my full time job
@zaccheus I'm seriously impressed at how easy you make it look. I appreciate the skill it takes that you have in making it look that way. Stay safe and I look forward to watching more of your skillful tree work. Got to say if I was in my youth again it's something I would be interested in doing too as I love trees.🤗
@ thank you! It’s all come with lots of practice. I’ve made many blunders to get to this far 😅
Yessir, that was a big 'un. Good stuff as always. Back in the dark ages when I did iron work, we were taught to simply turn the pin down until it stopped. They have the ability to self tighten when under a load. Understand what point UR trying to make.
As always stay safe, buddy.
@ClellWise Honestly, I have a hard time seeing why they need to be tightened to the stop. Some scientist somewhere probably has a good reason so I guess I'll do it 🤷♂️
This was fantastic. So entertaining. You all are so safety conscious. All are true professionals. Nice work. 😊
Thank you for the great video. So glad to see you guys reeeeeally know what you're doing so that you stay safe. I had no idea tree removal was so tough, guess I just remember reading Paul Bunyan stories as a youngster where he chopped it down at the base. xoxoxo
Im in no way a tree guy but helped a buddy occasionally that had a tree business. I just did the ground work and thats labor intensive. Being a climber has to be rough. I mainly work on cars but ive done several side gigs from concrete to framing houses to setting up trade shows. Tree work is definitely near the top in just hard labor.
WOW!!! You guys are so precise!!!! Great Job!!!!!
@@grannyshell5425 thank you!
As always nice work my friend. Nice to see I'm not the only one with chipper issues and documented in a future video!
@osagejon8972 haha not at all, poor Bo had a hard day with chipper related stuff
Very instructive zac
@@ulfremp3034 Thanks!
Good job Zac! 💪
@@1morbidus1 Thanks!
Great job as always. Stay safe
@@josephlowden2794 Thanks Joseph!
Sweet video.
I didn't know that you got a new dump truck. That thing is Sweet!!!! Congratulations 🎉
@CookinCasey Thanks, man! I'll have more on it soon. I'm kinda backed uo on videos right now 😅
@@zaccheus I'm looking forward to seeing them.
Been rocking the Zig Zag lately 🤔
Nice to see that you get to work with a seemingly good team on these bigger jobs. It makes a world of difference.
@VP0w3r Absolutely, I do lots of work with less experienced crews or crews, and it's makes a huge difference to have organized, experienced folks on the ground.
Haha yeah, I love the zigzag for drt work. I just never climb drt without a crane on site so it doesn't get used unless a crane is getting used.
Shackle handle toward the wood can make it difficult to take the shackle off, once the pick is on the ground. 👍
Edit: I remember my first crane pick. I didn’t even find out how much it could handle at the angle and distance. The operator didn’t know how much wood weighed either. I cut where he said and the crane couldn’t handle it. It turned into a fiasco real quick. I’m glad you have a good head on your shoulders. I didn’t back then. Thank you for sharing your content and please keep it up. Great job.
@geoffreygreen297 oh nooo, that sounds like the things of nightmares! I'm hope everything made it out okay.
And yes! I had the shackle pointed the wrong way 😅
@@zaccheus 😁 yes, everything turned out great. I just had to keep my eyes on the 10 foot long log on top of the staub I fell.😁
@@zaccheus 60 foot staub, 4 foot diameter at the top, with 10 foot long log on top, falling across a soaked, manicured lawn. 😱😂 A big no no in our line of work. 😂 I had to give you a picture to see in your head. Have a blessed week!👋
@@geoffreygreen297 ooooo thay sounds awful. All better than tipping a crane over though
thank for sharing your experience! It's always a learning process, and safety is key. Glad to hear you’ve grown from it-keep up the great work 👏👏👏
Enjoyed the video. Nice job.
Another great job,it's just fascinating to watch you up there cutting that tree down. It's a shame we have to cut down Big trees but with them rotting it is dangerous. 👍
@sandib4234 It is a shame. I'm always a little sad when we cut down big trees. It's also super important to protect the occupants of a nearby house and if I have to choose between a tree or a person, I'll choose to save the person every time.
@@zaccheusRight 👍
Big Dog! Nice Work!!
@richardf9137 Thanks, Richard!
That's why you 'boom up' instead of 'cable up' when you first lift a heavy load. Takes care of the boom deflection. Some new cranes automatically do that for the operator but I haven't tried it yet.
@boomupengineering thay makes a lot of sense. It's becaise you mentioned that before that I knew what was going on there. This crane company is heavily focused on tree work and I don't think they loft heavy all thay often. I do know that they try to keep the boom as short as they can to keep things static and stable.
True veteran crane operator here .
Always boom up a touch to account for deflection or load swings out away increase radius and can overload Crane lmi even flip rig over .
@MitzvosGolem1 thabks for sharing your knowledge amd experience. We typically don't work with tight enough margins to put ourselves at risk for a failure like that, but that's certainly no excuse to not make an effort to be better. The crane operator has been in the industry far longer than I have. If I get a chance to make a gentl suggestion, I will.
@@zaccheus he did excellent 👍 no criticism
@MitzvosGolem1 I often work with iron workers, but I rig with all crafts now. Problem comes when the signalman either doesn't understand boom deflection or he depends on an operator who may or may not compensate. I instruct riggers to properly and explicitly signal their operator instead of assuming anything. I hate when a payload lifts off and the guys scatter because the load takes off one way or another. For heavy loads, I think it's best to spot the hook over CG, cable up to take 10-20% and tighten the rigging, then boom up the rest until lift-off.
Thank you for your work. ❤
Does the weight of the crane ever adversely affect the concrete? That concrete looks really nice. Hate to think any damage might happen. I’m sure it’s all calculated beforehand. Thanks, great video.
@woodworker3122 It can! The strength of concrete can depend a lot on what under it and if the ground is soft under there or the concrete is of low quality, the crane can break it. We try to avoid setting up outrigger on the edge because that is the weakest part. But even the crane itself is heavy just driving in and out. I think that truck weighs right around 60,000 pounds. A lot of companies will ask the customer to sign a driveway waiver.
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Chapters:
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x:xx First Chapter: All Clips Only Riding On The Crane
x:xx Second Chapter: All Clips Only Tying Crane To Tree
x:xx Third Chapter: All Clips Only Tying Self To Tree
x:xx Fourth Chapter: All Clips Only Making Compression Side Of Limb Cuts
x:xx Fifth Chapter: All Clips Only Making Tension Cuts
x:xx Sixth Chapter: All Clips Only Watching Limbs Lift Away All The Way To Ground
x:xx Seventh Chapter: All Clips Only Watching Limbs Get Chipped
x:xx Eighth Chapter: All Clips Only Watching Logs Get Loaded Onto Trucks
x:xx Ninth Chapter: All Clips Only Watching Unloading At Dump
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have you tried cutting normally and watching the curf instead of the v cut? I find you can have nice static lifts consistently as you can tell if the crane has too much or too little tension.
@snipe3774 yeah, I'll cut straight across for some situations. It seems to work well when we have a vertical piece with two slings on it and we don't anticipate any lateral movement as the piece comes off. It's obviously easier to cut then. If the pick it set up so that the crane has to stand the piece up a little bit before lifting it off of the cut, the v cut just helps hold the butt it in place a little while the crane operator is getting piece's center of gravity under the ball.
@@zaccheus ah okay makes sense. Sometimes we use a set of chains and a sling (sometimes 2 sets of chains) to stop rotation and movement if it’s a real ugly tree. I like watching your videos because you seem to put an emphasis on doing things ‘the right way’ (regarding safety and gear) which is different for some people… keep it up man
@snipe3774 thanks man!
I seen on the news the other day a crane tipped over onto a house climber was attached to it outrigger went through the septic tank climber was okay
@dankotos61 yeahhh! I heard about that too. Sounds like a pretty miraculous experience. I think he was buried and pinned down with brush but hopped up and walked away as soon as they got him out. Incredible that he wasn't crushed my the boom or any tree parts.
@@dankotos61 😱Dang
OMG! Pay has to be really good to get anybody to do this work.
@cynthiafisher6374 I would have thought so, but I'm not rich yet and I sure know the crane operator isn't either 😅
Lol yeah for the crane guy and climber. Everyone else gets 15 to 20@@cynthiafisher6374
Nice job kid.
Kid???
It'd be hard to find more of a man than this
@SirensC3 Thanks, Joe!
@deadmanswife3625 haha it's okay, I've always had a young face and I'll probably be called a kid for another 10 years atleast. I've accepted it. Thanks for coming to my defense, I really appreciate your loyalty to this channel 😊
👍👍👍 A simultaneous small fade-in from some distance would show even better the dimensions of the respective pieces hanging on the crane.
@@ms-mac521 okay, thanks for the feedback!
Come one...Yoke Twist Lock shackles! No dropped pins!
And they are fast
@boomupengineering haha I know, I know, I just don't want to buy them myself because they're a little pricey for co tract climber wages 😅 but the safety factor would be worth it. I really like the hook we used in another video, but the crane company doesn't like to use them because they had a climber hook stuff up wrong once. Ilk ask if they'd be comfortable letting me use the twist lock units and maybe I'll buy some.
@@zaccheus If I had my choice, I'd probably run a 2-leg bridle on the crane. That gives you hooks on the ends to connect to short, sacrificial slings to choke around the tree without shackles. No shackles and the short slings are cheap and easy to replace when they get worn. That and you could vary their lengths a little to help when you need a short leg and a long leg. What would be really cool is a bridle of Tycan synthetic chain. Then you can adjust length really easy. Unfortunately Tycan chain makes everything else seem dirt cheap! It is a Dyneema fabric chain made by Van Beest who also makes Green Pin shackles. I use Tycan chain fairly often at work to avoid needing chain falls. I know though, one can't buy every fancy tool or else you go broke.
@boomupengineering Haha, for sure. I've definitely come to the realization before that I've worked so I could spend money on things for more work. You gotta spend money to make money, but there is a balance to it, too. The default setup woth this crane company is taking the sling off of the hook, girthing it onto the tree, and then placing it back on the hook. Supposedly, OSHA doesn't particularly like that. I don't like it just because it's a lot of lifting over my shoulders often and it means you have to keep the hook right there while getting everything connected. Those twistlock shackles wpuod be nice. I might give them a try. I have other things I can use them for that might help justify the cost.
Holy cats, that was a ginormous tree!!
Heck yeah brother!!
4:01 handle part of the shackle pin against the wood
not a big deal, but not ideal, I try to not do it, but I won't waste time fixing it usually, especially on small picks
@WoodCutr1 Absolutely, and I didn't correct it on this one. But I did make sure to avoid it the rest of the day
I did firewood for room and board for 6 and 1/5 years, that's where my brain goes I see all that wood their, firewood. Nice job dude
@oscartheg6674 thanks man! There was definitely a lot of wood in this tree. I don't know how many cords it wpukd have yielded, but it wpukd have been a lot
Nice work Zach! It would be nice to get some footage of the ground crew hustling to keep up with you
@@zanzan3244 okay, thanks for that feedback!
Great job brother
@toddjacks8288 Thanks, Todd!
love you man
Hey Zach, nice work! When did you get a new dump truck? Looks like you've been using the V-cut on the last 2 videos with crane work. Is that working better than the snap cuts you were doing?
@MikeBrooks12550 just recently, I'll have a video about it before too long 😊
Yeah the v cuts take a little more time from the climber, but the snap cuts take a little more time from the crane operator. I'd say the v cuts are a little smoother experience for everyone. I imagine that's what I'll stick to for the most part
A over / under snap cut I have found works great with crane work and blocking tree down
@dharc6982 Absolutely. I've used it some. It is faster than making a V cut. I think the crane operator here prefers the V cut beciaee it tends to hold onto the bottom of the piece a little better while he stands the piece up.
As a utility arborist- thank you for advocating the necessity of working with local power corps to get the scheduled outage for crane work.
@cpdoasis For sure man. Electricity is our number one killer.
Lot of great lumber in that tree.
Fun to watch ... Thanks!
I could watch tree trimming and pressure washing all day. Mesmerizing.
@@mostlyinterested1016 Haha, you're in luck! There are lots of tree trimming videos on youtube!
It looks like a healthy beautiful tree!
@mackhopper It had some decay pockets which can be structural issues and with it being so close to the house, it was important to take it down before it gave up in a wind storm. I do get a little sad when we take big tree down though. They can't be bought.
Real smooth bro' an not much clean up. Cheers
Hi guys I hope you use this for firewood ,it looks great cheers be safe Top Job 👍👍
How are you going to get rid of the massive trunk sections?
@alsehl3609 We take them to a mulch yard where they get ground up and turned into mulch.
Nice such clean yards'
You & your crew have amazing skill sets. Kudo's!
@@94jimmy5 thanks Jimmy!
What do you do with all that lumber afterwards? Sell it off? Chop it it down to firewood? Saw it up into planks and posts?
@orjhol unfortunately this species isn't really good for making lumber out of. The structure of the tree causes the wood to grow with a lot of internal stress which makes board curl and warp when that are cut on a sawmill. This tree went to a local mulch yard where it will be recycled and turn into hardwood mulch for flowerbeds. We try to save the ones we can though! My dining room table is made out of a local tree!
I lift a lot of HVAC equipment, can’t tell you how important a good crane operator is to a successful lift and placement. I’ve had sketchy operators and the difference is enormous and sometimes frightening. He lowers a load just a fraction to fast and it’s goodbye fingers or toes.
@chrismoody1342 Absolutely! This company we were working with has only two operators, but they're both really good at tree work and I'm very thankful to have their experience onsite when we do these big trees
How many hours were involved in that tree, just the cutting?
@wayne3754 Oh, I didn't count. It was a pretty average day. Maybe 6 or so hours aloft amd another hour or so of dealing with that big wood and getting things cleaned up.
I'm not 100% sure what you did wrong whith that shackle..... I'm thinking that it has something to do with which way the pin is (screwing up or down)? That was a huge tree and a really sweet job!! I'd have liked to see more of it as I'm definitely in the group that enjoy longer videos. Still awesome to watch 😊 I always think it's a shame to dump the wood as that trunk would have made some amazing slabs...... or fire wood 😂 Thanks for the video 😊👍👍👍👍👍
@Zogg1281 You guessed it! I had the pin flipped the wrong way. It wasn't critical, but it try to make it so that the tab on the pin doesn't engaged with the tree and makes things loose or super tight.
That's good feedback to hear. I often get nervous that they just get really repetitive especially on crane jobs where every pick is very similar and the small differences are hard to capture on camera. I'm thinking about getting a different camera that might allow me to switch things up a bit.
Definitely you are a Tree-Whisperer!😊😮!
Zach, nice job. I have seen some huge silver maples. Once again, I didn't look too bad, not a lot of rot in tree. But people are scared of being so close to house. I knew the crane had to be moved back to get more capacity. Do you chare your buddy day rate or percentage of jobs you do with him. Guys around here, the Philly area are getting 5 to 800 per day for subbing
@robertvannicolo4435 Thankfully this one wasn't too rotten. It did have some voids in it that I thought would turn into something bigger, but nothing crazy. I have a set fee that usually ends up in that window you described there. I don't ask for a percentage or anything because I don't do anything to help sell the job.
Where the wood you've cut goes to? Firewood?
@@W4iteFlame most of it goes the the mulch yard to be turned into mulch, but some of it goes to firewood. Very rarely we will send logs to the mill if they’re nice. It’s rare because a lot of mills don’t want logs from urban trees.
@zaccheus thank you for the answer)
@ welcome!
Was the wood from this tree milled or was it made into wood chip, it looked to be nice ti ber, best regards from Australia.
@lesthiele4921 Australia? That's super cool. Thanks for chiming in! This tree went to much. This species is pretty soft and doesn't make very good boards or slabs. The structure of the tree also tends to store some internal stress which is release and warps the boards when it is milled
Is there any safety in place to insure they crane can handle the log once you cut it?
@thepubliceye Nope. That's why it's important to be familiar woth different species and how their weight changes throughout the seasons. We typically work with pretty big margins in case our estimation if the weight is wrong.
Yeah, getting that last massive cut in is exactly the workout we didn't want or need. :P
@rexmundi9691 Haha, you know!
What happens to the wood after you dump it?
@destinydushane2107 That facility grinds it up and sells it as mulch. It gives the tree a little bit if a second purpose and return the carbon back to urban lots
Very relaxing to watch after all my garden work today. I always feel a bit sad when a very old tree has to go - why do we humans take precedence over the trees but I suppose the wood can be used in some way and we all go back into the earth eventually and it was too big to be so close to houses.
@janesmith9024 Ah, I know what you mean. I'm always sad to see someone choose to take a tree down. Ultimately my job is about keeping people safe. People do have more value than trees so sometimes the trees gotta when they endanger the people.
Do you have to take into consideration cutting too much weight off of one side in the case of multiple trunks, in case the trunks start splitting at the crotches and falling apart. (If I said that right.)
@marymulrooney1334 That's a fair concern! I've never heard of a tree falling apart or uprooting because it because unbalanced during disassembly. I guess anything it possible, though 😬 I think the root system would have to be compromised for something like that to happen.
@zaccheus I meant splitting at the crotch where all the separate big tree trucks/limbs meet. But I guess it would have to be really rotten to split there.
@marymulrooney1334 I don't think it would be subject to splitting at a union due to imbalance. I'm just soectulating, but it think it wpukd be at the highest risk of that when both side of the tree are still present because then each side is pulling away from the other. If one side is gone, only the remaining side woukd be pulling away.
I’ve got to ask… What do you guys do with logs that big?
@@combak2712 we take them to the mulch yard where they get ground up into mulch
@@zaccheus Aww, that's sad...
I feel like those HUGE trunks would make great tables! XD
@@combak2712 they might. It’s soft maple so it would be very hard to work with and very difficult to preserve once made into a table. I definitely don’t have the wood working skills to do it. I think I’d be really cool too, but nobody actually wants to do it
@@zaccheusI’m sure you could find a buyer to take tree poles
@ it’s harder than you think. That have to be able to come out the same day I’m there and they have to have the appropriate equipment to remove the log whole without doing any damage to the client’s property. Most of the time it’s cheaper for them to buy a log off of a forestry job somewhere
Oh my goodness the camera does have a very deceitful angle. That tree is massive. I’ve worked on a lot of magnolia trees and many species but just wanted to share a comment of great video. Thanks for being awesome fellow tree guy.
Joe
@jrapanut0 Thanks Joe! I do struggle to capture the size of tree on camera. There are just some thing that don't translate well onto a flat screen
Nice Job great video
@@HansvanOostende thanks!
How much was it to dump it?
@@pjp80s free
Does any of this go to a lumber mill?
@TealCheetah No, unfortunately the lumber mills won't accept trees like this one.
What happens to all the wood that you don't chip,firewood?.
@peterunderdown4374 Most of those big, huge pieces are very difficult to process into firewood due to their size and gnarly grain structure. It's often most effective to take them to a local mulch yard where they grind them up and resell as dyed mulch. It's actually a nice way to return the carbon back to urban lots. Maybe not the best, but better than nothing
can that be sold? looks like good wood.
@@RollnRye74 If there was a buyer, I'm sure Bo would have been happy to sell it to them.
@@zaccheus I look at that trunk and bet very interesting grain pattern in there for table tops.
@RollnRye74 Thats probably true! There is also probably a lot of stored internal stress that'll warp the slabs when it's milled.
@@zaccheus so, do they let it be for a while so those stresses release?
@RollnRye74 Unfortunately, the stress can stay in the wood until it's cut. It's not a sure fire thing, but when a log has lateral force on it from leaning or an uneven canopy, the tree grows to resist the lean or never weight distribution. That resistance then can be stored in the log until the log is cut into boards. Mills prefer long, straight trees that grow in the forest because they typically grow evenly and are more likely to make straight boards when they are cut on the mill.
FINE job. A-PLUS! God Bless
Generations before us planted trees. I never see that now. Towns used to do it. People cared. Now it’s just cut them down and have a big open lot.
@@JP-vs1ys I agree. There are lots of disappointing things about the whole tree planting industry. A prime one is the biggest city near here, Cleveland, Ohio, planting invasive species for decades so much so that nurseries sold the trees as “Cleveland select.” Now that species is illegal to plant anywhere in the state. Nurseries are also ways trying to breed “better” species to suit their customers and they end up trading structural traits for appearance traits. A good example is red maple. Most of the trees I remove get taken down because people are scared of them falling on their homes. It’s a mighty fair concern, but it would indeed be nice to see folks interested in replanting.
Again, awesome job. Silver Maples , we would call them Swamp maples. Very low rooted.
Did you have to stump that one?
@izzy123412457 A different contractor ground out the stump, I believe. Maples in general tend to be rather hydrotropic it seems. They're always pushing roots up through the grass too.
Great skill and teamwork! it would be nice for us armchair viewers if you could set up a ground view tripod stationary camera so we could see maybe a time lapse of the take down at the end of you video......
@@jonnohz1 Okay! Thanks for that feedback!
We need prices! I’m sure the crane adds a lot, but how much.
@@willaerley7140 🤷♂️ I’m just the contract climber. I don’t ask how much the jobs are so I don’t feel bad about what I’m missing out on by not taking on jobs myself 😅
Beast!!!
💚👍👍👍
Very Interesting
Maybe somebody already said this, but why not tie a string between your pin and some other part of your gear, so that if you drop the pin, you can just pull it back to yourself with the string?
@merryhunt9153 Nobody else had suggested that. It's a good idea. The struggle might be that the pin would need to be tied to the shackle and if it were just tied around the bar of the shackle, it would likely get damaged by the load in the shackle. It might be worth trying though. Thanks for the thought!
oops you put the pin in upside down but no prob. You hung on to it. good job Man.... lots of fire woood.
They make shackles that the pins stay in and you won't loose them.
@@Dan68J I've got some ordered 🤙
Good job everyone.
This job must be fun, swinging trees like Spiderman.
@ashutoshkumardixit5657 heck yeah it is! It's a lot of work too, but I do enjoy climbing a lot.
Awesome day ✊️
I hate silver maples - but I like chainsaws!
Just subscribed!
@@localcrew haha, thanks for the sub!
Not trying to hate lol but my 542i will work circles around that saw😂
@@RC-CB1 haha not a chance in wood. Plus you had to pay about twice for that thing
If you remove the stump too that would be great!
NEVER, EVER get between the load and an immovable object (like the headboard of your truck)! Onther than that, great rigging.
Thanks for the tip. How exactly would you recommend guiding a log down into a truck body without getting in there with it?
The tree could only be your victim if you weren't paid to be there for it.
Since you're paid to be there for it, the tree is your subject.
@@n085fs haha fair enough 😅
put a landyard on the pin
@user-fl2wn5zr5z Yes, I hear that's a good idea. It's kind of a silly one, but I believe it's in the books as a requirement. Thanks for sharing!
9:45 The orange chain saw is smiling at us.
@@marymulrooney1334 haha! You're right, I never noticed that!
that gave me anxiety cause I have a tree just like that in my front yard... and I know its gonna have to come down someday soon.
@Lissa71 It's all a balance. It's important to keep the tree as long as you can without incurring extra Rick my doing so. There are appropriate ways to determine the structural health of a tree and a good 3rd part arborist will be able to give you an good evaluation.
Watching professionals.
Expensive tree job i suspect
@@tonykulikovsky you’re probably right
I would have wanted the remaining stump carved into something if I were the homeowner. Might be too expensive.
@marymulrooney1334 I've never looked into the cost, but I have had a customer or two request we leave a high stump for them to get a carver. I think it typically works best with harder woods.
@zaccheus I didn't know if it was hardwood or not. Looked hard. Lol.
@marymulrooney1334 haha it is technically a hard wood, but it's on the softer side of the hardwood specturm 😅
How much does a tree like this cost? I know it cost them an arm at least 🤣🤣
@@bayodaman I'm not really sure. I am an independent contractor and work for several different tree services. I don't really ask how much they cost. Probably 3.5k to 4.5k 🤷♂️
Florida tree guy. Goos shit. We always get adtw rit on crane day. If we dont make 10 gs it wont a win
@hespheastusbrazen8702 dunno what you're saying there man
@@zaccheus crane day is always big bucks . Sorry I was sweaty when I typed that .
@@hespheastusbrazen8702 haha no problem, I can relate. I just didn't know what you were getting at 😂
@@zaccheus no doubt . We had a bs job at the end of the day. You know how it is. I thought that was proofread
Haha, you said "massive wood".
😅😂
I like your videos but the music is definitely not necessary it takes away from the video you figured you got the sound of the saw cutting the machinery and your commentary and then you have music on top of it it's too much.
@@williamfindspeople4341 I hear you. Thanks for the feedback!
What a waste of beautiful lumber
@@cbknight6882 We can't get the mills around here to accept this wood. If you want it, I'll bring it to you.
Once I saw the battery chainsaw come out, I stopped watching.
@@mikespain8655 sounds like you're not interested in learning anything new 😂
Great work,skills