Interview with Arrow's Stephen Amell, SDCC 2014
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- Here's our interview with Arrow's Stephen Amell (Oliver Queen) at the Arrow press room at San Diego Comic Con on July 26, 2014. Warning, S3 spoilers, and also some news that's going to make Olicity fans very happy!
Sweet Jesus I'm going to put this video in my bookmarks bar and link it to EVERY. SINGLE. ONE of those obnoxious 'comic book purists' who treat it like their fucking job to shut down Olicity shippers with 'He ends up with Laurel in the books'. There's so many differences between the show and the comics, maybe now they can finally accept Arrow as an independent show with it's own direction. That direction?!? Olicity. *mic drop*
i totally agree, and technically he and laurel in the books get divorced so... and its not the first time an oliver queen hasn't ended up with black canary/laurel lance. Smallville anyone
I totally agree #TeamOlicity
''the ship has sailed on those romances (sara and laurel)'' OMG music to my ears :D
I mean I love Arrow even without the romances but come on Olicity makes the show much better.... felicity show the softer side of oliver which is always great to see :)
***** I agree! Felicity has accepted who he is from the beginning and has always supported him and encouraged him :) they are just natural unlike with laurel.... I always saw that relationship as being forced and I never believed that he really loved her.... I mean seriously he cheated on her multiple times. And I loved arrow from the beginning and I wasn't always an Olicity fan but in season 2 everything changed, they changed :) I m just so excited for season 3 :D I want to sleep and wake up to October 8th !!
kimm i totts agree with u two, he is finally moved on from the disgusting sister swapping melodrama, that he is ready to start a romantic relationship with Felicity shows growth in oliver Queens character from a sleazy playboy to a respected hero and human being. and the show producers also said that the show was about oliver Queens character development, a vigilante, Arrow to finally becoming green Arrow. im so excited for olicity although its gonna be a love triangle with this Ray Palmer character (the atom) but no matter true love will prevail #olicity
yeah I know there's going to be a love triangle but in the end felicity will chose Oliver :) I usually hate love triangles but im excited about this one... im looking forward to see how oliver is going to act and react with felicity interested in someone :)
I completely agree with you oliver has grown so much and I think felicity is the only woman in his life that he hasn't lied to :)
I've died and gone to shipper Heaven
Thank you for posting this!
Wow! I'm so excited about Oliver and Felicity's relationship come season 3. Love them. And it crushes me every time Stephen talks about Susanna Thompson. I'll miss her.
OMG!! Just one woman! It's not Laurel, it's not Sara, it's FELICITY!!! Wow! Like Kimm said music to my ears. I'm beyond excited. Oliver and Felicity belong together. They're natural chemistry is just beautiful. Lauliver always seemed forced because they have no chemistry, sorry but that's my opinion (along with many, many other fans) I think they tried to sell us Lauliver in season one because she was the main girl but then came Felicity and her and Oliver were magic. They'd be dumb not to run with Olicity, and turn the already amazing couple into an extraordinary one. #Olicity
And the interviewer who try to get an another anwser from him....... Yep, nop! It's Felicity!
I'm dead. This is too much. Endgame confirmed, everyone.
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my heart can't take this anymore, october, WHERE ARE YOU???
The people who constantly complain about Oliver and Felicity are actually the people who seem to care the most about "shipping", despite their constant claims of being "real fans" who don't care about the romance. If that was really the case, then I guess they wouldn't care who Oliver ends up with romantically. Especially since Laurel still gets to become Black Canary. Oliver doesn't need to be sleeping with her in order for that to happen. I guess shipping does matter, some people are just upset that it's not the ship they want.
Its not about who Oliver ends up with romantically, that's the point! This Olicity nonsense has taken up half the show in promotion. I'm tired of hearing it.
Actually quite the opposite really, you see not the one who is constantly promoting a ship like Olicity. I look at all aspects of the show, which is why I think the original premise of the show that attracted people to the show is being lost to the fan pandering. The viewer numbers have declined since season 1 when Olicity was around, and audience will decline more in season 3. So whatever they proceed with it has its risks and it could very well backfire.
I also find it hard to believe that Green Arrow and Black Canary will never be together, SA only knows what might happen in S3, he won't know beyond that and even then things have changes along the way. And if ratings do fall, well then perhaps they will reconsider the Olicity fan pandering. So until the last episode of the series is shown I wouldn't be thinking anything is locked in, you may be heartbroken by the result. Who knows if they do make Felicity as Oracle then I hope they take character on fully and she takes on the wheelchair as well - that would be Felicity's crucible. So remember, expect the unexpected.
TheAppleFour that's quite a statement to throw out there that Arrow lost viewers because of Olicity. Show me your statistics and your proof that the numbers dropped BECAUSE of Olicity.
You're forgetting that a POPULAR main lead character died at the end of season 1. Before there was Felicity, there was Tommy. He was the fan favorite of season 1. What bout the people that shipped Thommy? or Merlance? or just Colin o'Donnel fans in general? I'm sure they quit when their favorite character died.
Unless you have proof, don't go throwing statements that the show is failing because of one ship.
TheAppleFour
I get what you're saying and why you are so devoted to this but I am not a comic book reader. I don't know much about the comic book life of oliver queen, the flash or batman and even superman for that matter. I loved the action scenes in Arrow which is what drew me to the show in the beginning and then I got bored with it until they introduced felicity and at tht time she wasn't a potential love interest for oliver for me, she was just a breath of fresh air, she was funny and honest and she made oliver laugh and he became more humanized to me and i liked that so i continued to watch it.
Then the underlined romance between them began to come out and it didn't feel forced to me or unnatural or out of nowhere, it was a natural progression and I point out tht i'm going solely on what I've seen from the characters as i don't read comic books. They would make a good couple to me at this point because of where they are personally. Honestly for me there is little romantic chemistry between oliver and laurel, no offense to the person who plays her but I find myself wondering if they even did a chemistry read together because i don't buy them as an ultimate couple off of what i've seen of them and the writers pushing them together like they did was just annoying. I get that not a lot of people feel the same but tht's how i saw it basing it solely on the show.
Bringing in that point of not knowing anything about the comics, not everyone who watches the show is a fan of the comic books or has ever even picked up a comic book before. The show has a whole host of fan-following that knows the green arrow solely from what they've seen on the show and tht is why we route for olicity because it looks and feels natural and real, not forced like laurel and oliver's relationship feels right now, regardless of the fact that they are together in the comics.
However for the comic book reader who cares about the comics, at least laurel looks like she may be black canary and all the other comic book developments are going to play out on the show like ray palmer and such as I've been told. So there's that for you.
I feel the whole Olicity relationship was fine as a friendship, it worked - I never saw a romantic interest between them. But then they started to force in Olicity moments that is when it felt forced to me, and when it became annoying to watch. It felt staged and directed. I mean seriously how many times did they write in a scene where Oliver had to rescue Felicity by either swinging down on a rope, going down a rope or having to carry her towards the end of season 1 and during season 2. I'll bet you anything there will me more of it in episode 3.01, you can almost predict the scenes now. That is what I call fan servicing, the scenes are almost written perfectly for the Tumblr fans to GIF their little hearts out. Those scenes don't feel natural to me, they feel absolutely fan serviced. In fact, that last episode feel one Olicity moment, that IMHO took away from the awesomeness of Deathstroke and made him look stupid and weak - certainly not the dangerous character they had made out all season. The plot had large holes in it you could see through. For example, my making out that Oliver loved Felicity in bait and switch, didn't he in fact put Laurel's life in the very danger he was trying to avoid. As once Slade was armed with this knowledge, what was the purpose of keeping Laurel alive - he could have killed her before Oliver got there. It was just a stupid plot to push Olicity IMHO so there could be the ILY scene.
The point of the comics source material is to give the story it the fabric in which to weave their story. What makes the show strong is its comic book roots, if it didn't have these it would be a show about a vigilante.
I don't care who any body ships or roots for, I only care about creative integrity. And that is what I think is slowly being lost by catering to just a portion of a fandom. I do think that the show runners are walking a thin line between the fandoms and have times over stepped the mark, I'd prefer they'd refrain from making the remarks they do as they seem to contradict themselves all the time.
OMG...some people are gonna be pissed, well its time for us, last season MANYolicity fans were pissed because the "fake ILY", its time for us be happy for these wonderfull news....Olicity
I love how he sounds so much like pre-island Oliver in real life... it's so cute!!
i cant stop crying, olicity!!!!!! :'D
They are not pandering to the fans, EBR was made a re curring cast member long Before the first episode with her aired. The President of Warner Brothers wanted her on the show when he saw her with Stephen, Stephen himself Went to TPTB and said they should make her re currring and the writers saw the Chemistry amidiatly as well, the fan reaction was just a bonus. And they are not re writting history....what history? Arrow stands on it' s own they are not following the comics and they have made that clear. The writters have the show planned out for 5 seasons, they knew in season 1 that Merlin was going to be a regular character in season 3, they have had Felicity's back story planned out since they decided to make her a regular character etc and of course Stephen Amell knows whats going to happend Everything that he has said has also been confirmed by the writters and producers.
My absolute favorite of all of the Stephen Amell interviews. from SDCC2014
OH OH OH OLICITYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
IS THIS EVEN REAL LIFE??
Stephen Amell himself said: "Oliver's always going to love Laurel. He's always going to love her, period. But things change. Oliver never wanted Laurel to know for a reason because knowledge equals danger. The people that find out his identity always find themselves in the crosshairs of trouble. I think that her knowing, even though it's revealing Oliver to be the guy she always hoped he would be, at the same time, it may make it more difficult for them to have a relationship in the future beyond friendship".
www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/arrow-stephen-amell-season-2-703702
Andrew Kreisberg Talks About The State Of Oliver & Laurel
Kreisberg appealed to the iconic comic book pairing as being like “Lois and Clark” - “they can break up, get together, sleep together, break up, get married, get divorced, she forgives him,” he points out… but he did admit that with the success of the show, “Lauriver” is one of those things that they can take their time on.
www.greenarrowtv.com/arrow-andrew-kreisberg-talks-about-the-state-of-oliver-laurel/16823
So maybe, Laurel and Oliver could get together again by the end of the series.
Thing is I absolutely love Oliver with Felicity but I still think it's early for them to be making a move, I mean a date is harmless but jumping into a relationship before at least half the series is over, then I believe it could be a mistake that will end catastrophically.
I liked Laurel until Tommy died and she started acting like a bitch towards everyone. Other than that, maybe in like season 6/7...etc Oliver can marry whoever. Just don't force Lauliver because they make sense (he loved her since forever) but no chemistry whatsoever.
Now, let's focus on the series about what it is telling rather on just who Oliver is hooking up with. It's a good show, with a great plot just enjoy it and let the writing to those who have to do it (the writers).
I am NOT a DC fan, except for this show and maybe the Flash, but I completely agree with what he said about the JLA. I think fans wanting info about that at an ARROW panel is rude and really undermines the work that they've done
If this is true then the show has just to rewrite history and Oliver's feelings in order to cater to fan pandering. Lost respect for the show for not continuing with the story line they created in season 1. But I don't believe Stephen could know what is happening for all of season 3 and beyond, it is a huge stretch and anything could happen when Laurel becomes the Black Canary and he is Green Arrow. Frankly I am hugely disappointed in Stephen Amell because of his statements. A lot of fans are pissed because of this.
Yeah... You and other 6 people.
Actually the point of a show is to have the balls to taste the waters and change in order to see what works and what doesn't. Those people have done that. They keep truthful to the comics on the aspect that they bring more and more DC characters to life and do them justice.
Stephen is a man who has always kept it real, has never been disrespectful to anybody and is so open to directly communicating with the fans and has been helping for months the family of a baby girl who is diagnosed as cancer. Yet, you 'lost your respect' towards him because he said what he thinks is going to happen? Good for you.
Νικολία Παπαγιαννοπούλου Fanservice doesn't take balls. A lot of showrunners have done it.
Did you even read what I said? I talked about 'testing the waters.' Talking about fanservice is hypocritic, it all comes from the part of the fans who aren't pleased with what is happening. I mean, in which point do you forget that the fans of the show are those who watch it? They need to at least take under consideration what they prefer in order to keep the show running. But with Arrow fanservice is not the case because they still have some serious, kick-ass, awesome plot going on that has you sitting on the edge of your seat. We have Arsenal, we have Oliver going from Arrow to Green Arrow. We have Ray Palmer (aka The Atom) who will re-name Starling City to Star City. We have already Sara as the Canary but it's been confirmed that the Black Canary will be Laurel, and it will happen during this season. Most likely Felicity will become the Oracle. Do you see fanservice in that or serious plot lines and comic-book references? When it comes to people's serious relationships, they go with what is natural and has been building since season 1. What's more natural than eventually falling for a person who you've spent 24/7 with for the past two years and you share a pure, loving bond? They built up as best friends and partners first, /then/ they test the romantic level since the attraction and the chemistry has always been there. That relationship, the most natural one, happens to also be what the huge majority of the audience is rooting for.
@@TINKERB121
You only whine because they didn't fanservice with the couple you wanted...
Honestly, for me, it's mostly how obnoxious the Olicity fans are that has caused people to overtly hate the pairing/ship. This explanation is in no way meant to be rude towards, but I do have a tendency to phrase things differently than I intend to, so apologies in advance.
Here's a list of some of the things that have turned a lot of people off:
The Twitter rampage. All in all, the big Olicity movement has been done by a couple thousand posters who constantly post the #olicity tag on everything. Everybody gets that Olicity is a fan favorite ship. Just because it consumes everything about why they watch the show, doesn't mean they have to advertise it on everything. Stephen Amell could Tweet: "Working in the foundry today and it's freezing"@amellywood. And there would be hundreds of tweets later saying "Huddle up with Emily, she'll keep you warm #olicity" or "What's the foundry? Does that mean #olicity?" For most of the fans who watch the show and don't care about who ends up with who, it's a major turn off when all they see are people propping up a ship that hasn't happened yet.
Which leads us into the Facebook assault. Stephen Amell is an amazing actor. While he probably won't be winning an Oscar or Academy award anytime soon, the level of interaction he has with fans is amazing and unparalleled. He shares so much of his life and work with people that fans have truly fallen in love with him. Unfortunately, there's about 20 people who literally post the same photo to every comment, asking for Olicity. And another 10-15 fans who will go on there and just type #olicity in the comments. To every post. Whether it's a training video, Q&A, or just a status update. Which, again, is a major turn off for people who are watching the show to see Green Arrow.
For a lot of people, having it shoved into our faces constantly like that, is enough to push fans away from the pairing and the show. Even though they like Felicity, it can turn people cynical towards the character and the ship.
There's also the fact, that in the comics Black Canary and Green Arrow get married and Felicity Smoak marries Ed Raymond, the father of Ronnie Raymond, who's half of Firestorm (and being played by Robbie Amell this fall on Flash). Nobody wants the show to follow the comics verbatim, but there are quite a few fans who want them to stick to key points of the comics (who marries who, for example). (For the record, I personally don't care if Oliver gets married in Arrow)
Now let's get into the truly juicy stuff.
There are three kinds of fans who like the pairing: The ones who just think they would be cute together, the ones who think they should be together because of "x" reason (the shipper) and the ones who have dedicated themselves to force it to happen (the hardcore shipper).
The first two aren't that bad. I don't have a problem, personally, with people who like olicity in general. It's the third kind that has destroyed peoples perceptions of olicity.
The ones who stampede Twitter and Facebook with #Olicity and demanding that Oliver get together Felicity. There also the ones who cry foul whenever Stephen Amell posts a picture on facebook or twitter with a cast member who isn't Emily Rickard.
The ones that posts hatred towards the cast members because they're interfering with Oliver being Felicity. If you spy on those lunatics, you'll see that whenever Stephen or the Producers posts something about Felicity, it's all kittens and rainbows. If the producers post something that might interfere with their ship (Ray Palmer or Laurel becoming BC for example), it's all filled with hatred and demanding that the producers/Stephen Amell change it to make it focus on Felicity. Stephen recently posted a picture of him and Katie together that Paul Blackthorne took of them. The comments ranged from, "What a nice picture. Paul did a good job" to "This picture is terrible, why do you have Katie there instead of Emily? It should be Emily, take it down. #Olicity"
One thing that most of them agree on is that they hate Laurel/Katie Cassidy. Katie Cassidy is the most abused actress on that show. The amount of hate that spews from that dark corner of the fandom is absurd. They have morphed their perception to going from hating her because she and Oliver are close, to hating her because she's done x, y and z. Pick any minor thing that Laurel/Katie has done and they've called for her to be killed off or written out. They've even threatened Katie, personally not the character, demanding that she quit the show so olicity could happen.
And it's not just Laurel that they hate. When Oliver and Sara were together, the same thing happened to Caity Lotz. Same thing with Helena. Hell, I'm sure if Oliver and Diggle developed a romance, they'd even hate Diggle/David Ramsay, who's the Firstmate of their ship.
Which brings me to my final item on the list. Their Grand Delusion. Tumblr is a cesspool of fan fiction, which is fine and dandy because that's what it's for, fan fiction. The problem is, a few folks over there have taken to making memes about the show, portraying olicity moments that didn't actually happen. Scenes spliced together to tell a story. Actors with quotes over their head that were never said in the show. Mostly harmless stuff that doesn't matter. Except when you get people who don't actually watch the show and merely observe to see the Oliver/Felicity pairing. Then these fan fiction memes and stories become the real thing. All of a sudden, the entire show is nothing more than the Smoak and Arrow show. All of the other characters exist to promote this romance. Diggle is Firstmate, who is their chief shipper. Amell is the captain of the ship because everything he does and says suddenly points to olicity. Laurel is evil because she takes Oliver away from Felicity. I could go on, but I won't.
These things don't stay on tumblr though, they migrate to other media. They honestly believe that the fan fiction they saw there is what actually happened and they come on to other sites promoting it and then wonder why it is that people don't see what they see.
A rather lengthy post to answer a relatively short question, but it's a complicated question that deserved more than, "Olicity is bad, mmkay." And there's more that I could expand upon, but I won't. There's a lot of people on this board who like Felicity but hate olicity. And I'm sure most of them will agree with what I said, but obviously I don't speak for everyone. And I'm sure there will be some from the olicity crowd here that will say "nah-uh, it's not like that". But it is.
In conclusion, it's not so much that people don't like Oliver and Felicity, it's that they don't like the fans of the ship, and don't want to see it on the show.
I am a fan of the show but I don't really understand what is meant by fan pandering here. You talk at length about this so I have searched the net for all of this and I have found 4 blogs. It is not as if this is in my face. I actually had to look for it so I assume you do this too. Why? If you are not into fanclubs then why seek them out. Also I have no information from the EPs and writers stating that they are pandering. Seems to be that it is only the fans who do not look the direction of the show who are complaining of this. And yes there does seem to be some dysfunctional fans. there will always be those people who take satisfaction in being abusive. So easy to abuse others on the internet when you can be anonymous. Sorry for them....they seem to have been born angry and malicious. Fanships etc are not new you know. In the olden days (before internet) there were fan clubs too. Surely with all the finance at stake in producing a series EPs are not going to do what some fans tell them to do? This really doesn't make sense. In this day and age there are very few shows that do not include a romantic angle. Even kids shows (sadly I might add). Even the comics change the characters and relationships around. You want to follow the key points of the comic? Which variation? If you think fanships are so powerful why don't you start one "forcing" the EPs to give them what YOU want.
We have know something clear here ... Its a show that 'show' the viewers how Oliver Queens becomes Green Arrow, and I know not everyone are happy bout this Olicity stuff ... But be logical, its better that seeing Oliver jumping to the bed with a lot of women with no reason and not story behind those 'romantics one night' . Felicity and Oliver could start a relationship from the beginning, becoming friends first, then partners then let see what happen ... Just like Smallville, and I afraid that, at the end of the show, I pretty sure that the writers gonna disapear Felicity and let the story like the comics: Oliver and Laurel .... (Yeah, Im one of those who like a lot this Olicity things, but Have to be rational :/ )
I hate it when writers rewrite their series and characters due to shipping. Arrow has literally turned into TVD, that show at least had two and a half good seasons while Arrow only had one! I mean look what happened on Once Upon a Time due to shipping. I honestly can't take writers seriously when they do fan pandering. And now it looks like The Walking Dead is following the same steps due to this Bethyl *beep* that came out of nowhere. Why can't writers simply have the balls and tell their original story? Like I get it that they listen to the fans, but to listen to them all of the time and give them every single thing that they demand? It's ridiculous.
***** It's going to ruin the entire show and the entire Green Arrow franchise because in this incarnation Oliver's not going to end up with the same girl? I think you're the shipper in this scenario.
Kate Wood Yeah, when re-telling a story on TV like this you can't stick completely to the original like in a movie because it's ratings and fans that keep it going year after year, it's not one and done like a movie, so the writers have to go with the flow a little bit and change the original plan to make stuff work better. Not to mention the cast also has a say in direction and Stephen Amell seems very happy with the decision.
Er, OUAT didn't do ship pandering. All their ships were planned and set up properly, only people who ignored the story didn't see it. Arrow has always been up front about not following the comic book canon. With Arrow it's not fan pandering, it's going with what is natural and not trying to force something that doesn't work.
Sometimes the writers have to listen to the viewers , Like every show needs a romance in the show because without it ; it would be boring. And btw the ship Laurel/Oliver is just nahh to me and a lot , since also Stephen and Katie's chemistry is not that good on screen , with Stephen and Emily it just goes well. I get that you don't want to maybe have a couple , But I still think Arrow is one of the shows that has never had romance on #1 it's always been action first ! I hope you won't get mad at me or at Olicity shippers ; because you know , we're happy =) It's finally happening and I think we all started shipping them because of the AMAZING chemistry those two actors have with each other.
*****
Have you watched Games of Thrones, as they don't seem to have a problem sticking to the story and in fact killing off popular characters. It what makes it a hugely popular show and well respected.
at around 2:20, what is the interviewer asking Stephen? I know she's asking about the women in Oliver's life and his date with Felicity but I can't make out anything else. Can anyone else hear it?
Capitan Olicity Amell
Jay Garrick
I understand you do not like olicity ... but you have to respect that most fans are supporters of this couple. Otherwise you would not give so much hype. They have chemistry, that's proven and you have to admit.
There are a couple could be manufactured as well laurel and oliver, the show is not the same as this comic and it is showing. What happens if there is no chemistry between the couple? I have to force porue ue think what happened to laurel.
In contrast with more felicity has been simmering all.
Again I say I understand your opinion, but do not share it, you are one of those that you simply point and arrow, arrow, but I am fan of Olicity and has so many fans will have to accept it.
"The ship has sailed" Is he even allowed to say this? I mean no one confirms endgame not ever...you know they want to keep viewers intrigued...o.O very extreme
yeah but, this is not a teen drama like tvd, we've seen every aspect of oliver's love life except true love.
Andrea Bertolli whatever it's still CW and i'm sure the audience is pretty much the same...but you're right arrow is not a teen drama and i hope it won't turn into one
''the ship has sailed'' doesn't mean that they're end-game, it just mean that it has sailed.The ship can sink :p
true i hope it won't sink lol :D
lol yeah same ^^
3:10 "in the pilot" we discover how Oliver feels about felicity.. I hope he means the flash pilot, because Felicity was not in the Arrow pilot. Stephen you the man, but you should know that season premiers aren't all pilot's
2:28
stephen says " we discover in the pilot how he feels about felicty" does he mean season 3 premiere or like actually the pilot?
season 3.... felicity didn't show up until episode 3, she wasn't in the pilot
It is always Oliver and Felicity. They are better together than Laurel and Sara. Felicity is the main one for Oliver.❤❤❤
Noooo!!!! Lauriver has to be endgame...either way I believe Olicity will fail..that awkward moment at the end of season 2..to actually be for real..for a whole season...nope
seeing this in 2017 is making me laugh so hard...
Seeing this in 2019 makes me laugh!!!
#Olicity