Robocop 2: The Movie That Was Too Wild For Its Own Good?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- When you’ve managed to catch lightning in a bottle once, with one of the most revered, beloved, exciting, brutal and iconic movies as 1987’s Robocop, how on earth do you follow it up? Well, it appears from revisiting the much maligned sequel for this retrospective, you make it louder, flashier and, well, a LOT dumber. That’s not to say that Robocop 2 is necessarily a bad movie, it’s just that it had some very broad, metallic, shoulders to follow. So, yes folk, we’re traveling back to dystopian Detroit for the sequel to Paul Verhoeven’s classic original to see what the late, great The Empire Strikes Back director, Irvin Kerschner could pull out of the bag for the much anticipated sequel. When trying to replace a director as ‘edgy’ and formidable as Verhoeven it was certainly wise to pick somebody who had, arguably, delivered THE greatest Star Wars movie ever made with ‘Empire’ but was he perhaps TOO safe a pair of hands to deliver what fans were hoping for with Robocop 2? Well, get ready to save an infant from a crazed gunman, dive head first through the glass of an armored truck, actually kids - do NOT attempt that one, and put out that damn cigarette as we’re about to find out, here on REVISITED!
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Robocop 2, Die Hard 2, and Predator 2 are what I refer to as the holy sequel trilogy. These were loud, mean spirited, foul mouthed, ultra violent over the top unnecessary sequels that are top tier guilty pleasures.
Came here to say precisely this. It’s one of those sequels that are seen as bad because the original was so good.
Batman returns, maybe? 🤔
@@AkilaeAK that’s another good one.
@@chrisgavin2794 Probably my favorite Batman film in all honesty.
100 percent agree I watched the sequels when I was younger. Had them on VHS and didn't have the originals . Would include gremlins 2 as well
Robocop 2 is honestly my favorite. It's not as personal or focused as the first one, and the big tragedy is just how close it is to being on that level, the set up is there, his wife still wanting to cling to the idea that he's alive, the over bearing directives, and the police strike all could have come together in the 3rd act to make the already outstanding fight with Cain (already in my opinion one of the best fights in the 80s and 90s in general, like top 5 easily) not just spectacular but emotionally satisfying.
That said, I think this movie is overlooked because people wanted another story about Murphys inner struggle, but what people ignore is just how excellent the world building is. Robocop isn't the main character, Detroit itself is. Every avenue of this world is explored here, from neglected children, to unfairly treated cops, to good people turned bad, to the corporate overlords who instigated all of this to begin with. Every level of Detroits economic and social hierarchy is on display here and it makes the movie feel very fleshed out in terms of world building.
Finally, I wholeheartedly disagree about Hobbs. I think he's an excellent character who fits in perfectly here. Granted, you have to accept the suspension of disbelief that a 12 year old could become a criminal mastermind, but it fits in this universe, at least to me. The tragedy of his character is that he's insanely smart and talented, with charisma (for a kid) and business savvy way beyond his years. He could have been anything he wanted, but he somehow ended up in the most dangerous and illegal profession there is. The part that is supposed to be scary is that he likes it, the violence, the money, and the manipulation. That's why I think he's an outstanding character who fits extremely well in this dark Detroit they've set up.
Also, RoboCain is just a near perfect design. I don't care if he's not structurally sound, he looks amazing and they utilize so many crazy powers of his. Such a good movie if you can ignore some silliness.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
i love how everything in this world just seems evil!
If you look closely at the movie you can see subtle hints of inner struggle from Murphy. At the end of the first one he rediscovered his humanity but in this one he’s having to learn to cope with his new reality, on the inside he may be human but his body now has limitations and he’s depressed now. You can’t see the heart break when he watches his wife break down but you know it’s there, he did what he believed was right thing to do despite how hard it was!
I don't like it quite as much as the first Robocop, but I don't think it's that bad at all. Moreover, I think you hit the nail on the head regarding Hobbs's character. I wholeheartedly agree.
The part when the 2nd failed Robocop 2 takes off its helmet and screams and falls outta frame still makes me laugh to this day.
I always laugh like a lunatic whenever I remember it.
Classic right there
#metoo. Lol
RoboCop 2 is the ultimate meta movie, in that it’s all about how it would be impossible to make a RoboCop 2. If you watch it from that point of view, it is absolutely ingenious.
Think about it - they keep trying to make a second RoboCop, but can’t figure out what made the first one work so well. They also acknowledge how stupid it would be to try to make it more kid-friendly.
Exactly! It’s a sequel about the futility of sequels and condemning corporate studio meddling. Hollywood movies today don’t have the kind of balls to attack it’s own industry like RoboCop 2 does!
This guy got it. It took me a long time to realize how self-reflective this movie actually is. It doesn't fully nail the execution, but damn at least it had the nerve to swing for the fences in that regard.
You are right. If more people knew this they would like it a bit more.
I always thought is was a decent sequal. Its still the 2nd best Robocop movie.
Wow I never saw that angle. I wish they were more aware of this and reinforced that idea with better execution. Overall, I liked the film, but didn’t like its mean spirit. Something that Alex Murphy did not have and the prequel had plenty of heart and spirit. The opening to the first one suggested you can replace the heart, but the movie showed you can’t
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It's arguably pretty subtle, like by no means on the nose.. or maybe it's so on the nose it doesn't register. Regardless, if you watch it again you'll wonder how the hell it never occurred to you before.
I don’t care what anyone says, this sequel will always have a special place in my heart. Love this movie!
Fun sequel 😊
This film taught me that a rolling stone is worth two in the bush
Same. I actually like it more than Robocop.
The third movie sucked in comparison to this one.
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Me too.
I would pay to see the original version of the movie where Robocop was supposed to get damaged at the beginning and wakes up even farther into the future
Would you buy that for a dollar?
I have it on VHS
@@MrMegatron85I got that reference 🤣🤣🤣 Mr Megatron 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
SEGA GENESIS
ROBOCOP vs TERMINATOR
pretty sure they made a comic series about the original version of this movie. I’ve never read it, but i’ve heard it’s crazy.
As a kid I LOVED 2 more than the first. The first was an incredible story; the second was like playing with action figures lol.
Robocop 2 is very goofy but also very sadistic. The Kane robot is a masterpiece of practical effects.
It was very scary. I would run like crazy from that metallic monster.
Only it was CGI. 😂
@@robogreek3157 lol, no it wasn't.
That Goodsmile Cain figure is dope. 😁
I would argue that it's the best stop motion monster/bad guy ever, in the history of cinema.
I have always found Robocop 2 to be hugely underrated. I think it was just due to action movie fatigue. Sure it didn't have the underlying theme's of the first movie which made it a classic... it was still a great action flick that delivered on all the actiony parts that made the first movie so popular.
Terminator 2 was released one year later and it was a huge success, so I don't think it was due to an action movie fatigue. That being said, I think it's criminally underrated too. Maybe it was too brutal, with Robocain killing a young boy and almost beheading his girlfriend. I still watch it from time to time, and it still impresses me.
It's way dumber than the first one for sure. So on that level it will always be inferior. I always felt like they were taking the piss out of being a sequel to begin with, anyway. The 'Robocop 2' scene alone, with all the robot suicides, is worth the entire movie.
Totally agree, and I feel like Predator 2 suffers from the same fait.
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It's smarter than you think. It's a commentary on itself.
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It’s not dumb at all.
It touches on economics, corruption, crime, and addiction.
I wish screenwriters today would actually write scripts with those structures and themes.
Robocain was and will always be just over the top awesomeness in both design and sheer screen presence.
An awesome villain/antagonist that was very well written.
That fucking gun!
The final fight is so damn fun to watch.
I've watched this movie at least as many times as I've watched T2. The Hobb character was genius. He really showed the depravity of Cain and enhanced him as a villain. You actually feel sorry for Hobb if you have any imagination as to how grooming works and how kids are blank slates that can be turned good or rotten by their environment. I used to love the crazy comic book feel to the story, and now we live in a world similar to it in regards to how bonkers everything is now.
Yes they completely missed that aspect about the boy and the Cain thing. I actually get tired of the kid being brought up in reviews in a bad way. The world in this movie is fucked up so naturally he would be too!
As a kid, I liked the first Robocop, but LOVED the second one. That Kane cyborg was just awesome.
What made him so menacing was how unhinged he was
Robocop 2 is a masterpiece, compared to Robocop 3.
Skateboard Kid 2 is a masterpiece compared to Robocop 3
Number 3 I couldn't watch
@@Fury851 robocop catches a bullet in 3. I laughed so hard when I saw that scene
Back in the day this seemed so violent and I remember a DJ on the radio protesting about how violent this film was. I think having the sadistic kid somehow made it scarier. I watched it recently and it didn't seem that bad. The bit with the other failed robocops was a memorable scene.
It was violent, but not in a gratuitous way.
It was necessary.
If you saw Robocop 2 as a kid, Hobbs was the coolest character in the movie. Lol And I like it just as much as the original. It's not as good but it's not nearly that bad.
Same. Hobbs character was one of the best parts of the movie, after RoboKane and Murphy of course.
@@LastBastian I hated Cane as a character and only liked him as a Robot at the end.
@@mrnygren2 Yeah, I could pretty much take or leave human Cane, but RoboCane was badass. Still one of the coolest robot/cyborgs ever put on screen, IMO.
Robocop 2 felt like it should have been a TV series. There were so many stories packed in that could have been an episode each.
Robocop 2 is the one I watch the most. Cain was freaking terrifying. I used to have nightmares all the time about the scene in the warehouse where Cain comes and hunts everyone down.
OCP as a stand-in the for the movie studios was a cool meta reference. Trying to make Robocop kid-friendly and letting someone from research (marketing) tinker with his programming. Also the Robocop suit is improved a great deal in this one. He actually has a proper metallic jaw instead of rubber like in the first one.
As was the case in Rambo, Terminator, Rocky, StarWars and Evil Dead, i always felt that the second picture was the very best in the series.
I like Robocop 2 a lot. The first is better but 2 was still good in its own right. The failed Robocop replacement sequence never gets old to me. Or Robocop being so over programmed that he was shooting at a guy for smoking & reading miranda rights to a guy with a hole in his head. 😂
It was good at best but very disappointing... no robocop theme. And it had that batman forever touch of being to colorful and comic in a dark serious story. Peter Weller hated it
The scene where officer Duffy gets sliced open scared the hell out of me. It's really masterfully done, the way it builds up the tension, when the surgeon comes in and reveals the tray of instruments, and you get the impression they're just trying to scare him. And then he starts cutting, and the screaming, the bone chilling, blood curdling screaming! What makes it also so memorable is how it leaves so much to the imagination. You only see the first few seconds of what would probably be hours of excruciating, agonizing torture, and your imagination fills in the blanks. If only there was a directors cut where you see what the surgeon was gonna do with all those other instruments!
The second one is like an evil sibling to the first. Flick has a mean streak. I love it.
One odd scene I always remember as a kid is that hot dog guy who looks like Richard Pryor while Robocop is chasing Kain on the motor bike. I always thought it was him but I found out it wasn't him when I look it up on the internet.
"They goin to kick somebody ass!"
At least it didn't shy away from the action and violence. It kept the spirit of the first one. It's entertaining and that's the point. Also the scene where Kane stalks in the wearhouse is suspenseful and awesome.
They go full comic book on this one and that's why I love it. Murphy realizes he's never going to be a family man anymore and just decides to be a good cop
Robocop 2 Is my favorite. I loved Hob, his scenes were so funny. The third act was satisfying. All and all, a great followup to Robocop 1.
I think Hob's death still had good emotional moment since it still taps into Murphy's humanity. You could argue that Hob was a product of society since it seems like Old Detroit was going to hell in a handbasket, but it also allowed Murphy to connect to his humanity and show remorse, even to someone like Hob. Being a father himself he wouldn't want to see a a kid die, especially as a result of being gunned down. That moment of him being there for Hob till the end even when they both knew he was done for was one of those few emotional scenes that made Robocop 2 worth watching; the other one was Murphy having to lie to his ex-wife even though you can see it hurt both of them emotionally.
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
Yeah 1 is better, but 2 is still pretty awesome. And I didn't find the kid annoying at all. I always thought he was a great character, and the actor did a fantastic job. The whole moral ambiguity of dealing with a "bad guy" who is a child is one of the more interesting ideas in this series.
Obviously the character was a naturally intelligent and charming child who adapted to the horrible environment he was thrown into, and just doing his best. But in the end, as he's dying, we see that he is still just a child after all.
Exactly what I've always thought. Well said!
A hundred percent agree. They should have just fleshed out where the kid came from. sold as a baby for drugs? to Kane who raised him as his protege. make the drug cult thing be a real cult, where Cain was grooming him to be the leader
What makes Hobbs so interesting is his mysterious nature. He has no backstory (that’s explored).
Who is this young man?
How did he end up with the wrong crowd at such a young age?
Isn’t it past his bed time?
LOL!!
I love this film.The sequence where we first see Robo Kane in the dark warehouse is truly terrifying.
I just saw Robocop 2 for the first time, soon after Robocop 1, and I honestly had no idea opinions were so split on it until I looked it up. I actually really liked Robocop 2, and while I'm now noticing that there are some emotional beats that could've been capitalized on, such as the subplot with Murphy's wife, I think it's a really fun movie with some amazing ideas and a very good sense of humor. The part where they gave him tons of new directives was really funny to me. I also didn't mind Hob all that much, to be honest, I think it just kinda went to show that Detroit had deteriorated to the point where a 12 year old being the right hand man to a violent drug ring was a plausible thing. Overall, I liked it almost as much as 1.
11:00 I feel like the stuff with the kid plays better today than at the time, probably because we're more jaded and cynical than in 1990. I think the core idea is pretty funny, and works well with the "80s excess gone horribly wrong" themes of Robo 1 + 2. Even his death scene plays like a SUPER dark parody of similar "deathbed regret" scenes.
One of my all-time favorite RoboCop moments is when Murphy is forced to face his wife after being told that he is nothing but OCP product. Separated by a chain-linked fence, Alex asks his wife to touch him. She reaches through the fence to place a trembling finger on his cheek. She pulls back in horror and whispers, "it's cold." In a stern voice, Murphy looks her dead in the eyes and says, "they made this to honor him. Your husband is dead." He then straightens up, and turns his back on her, "I don't know you," and he walks away leaving his wife is tears.
HOLY CRAP!!! That was AMAZING!!! Chilling, haunting, and absolutely heart-breaking!!
Then, that makes me think of the deleted scenes. RoboCop watching a female cop taking a shower, and realizing that he can no longer be the lover his wife needs. He can never touch and feel human skin again with his robot hands. Then you have the "nightmare" Robo has where after he visits the grave of Alex Murphy, he dreams of taking his own life by walking into a car-crusher at a junk yard. This is some pretty deep character stuff.
I like a lot of the ideas that "RoboCop 2" presented. But, there was too much going on for one movie.
I actually felt for Murphy.
That’s what Hollywood films are missing today. I don’t really care for the characters.
With Murphy, I actually empathized and sympathized with him.
Hobb was a smart addition to the story. It plays into how crime knows no boundaries
i loved this movie, i was maybe a year or two younger than the kid in the movie when it came out. i thought it was awesome there was a kid in the movie that was a bad guy. back in the late 80's and early 90's even action and horror movies were movies meant for the whole family and it was common knowledge kids would love this kind of movie. they made multiple lines of robocop toys and games.
i never seen that kid as something to aspire to though, or someone i could use as an example of why a bad behaviour is acceptable. i find it hilarious someone would think that. i will say though as cool as the 80's and 90's were, there was equally some really angry parents and politicians who wanted to blame everyone but themselves for why america was going downhill. it's like, you run the place, and let tv's raise your kids, but when they lash out due to neglect its like: "no clearly its whats on the tv thats the core of this issue".
that RoboCain pinchy hand when he's going to insert the nuke will never be not funny.
Always loved the writing and performances in this flick. Kershner was the king of sequels.
5:00 - that really sticks out as bizarre now. I remember RoboCop posters and merch was all over the place when I was at school yet I didn't see it till much later and was shocked how violent it was.
I am a huge fan of ROBOCOP 2, loved it! Hated the 3rd one. I had subscriptions to Fangoria and Gorezone magazines and would like to add something from interviews from those mags. Apparently, Peter Weller was also very upset over the Hob's character and wanted it removed. They wouldn't bend and he would throw a fit. They said he threw lots of revised scripts across the room like they where frisbees.
Regarding the RC2's excessive violence?,... pffft! C'mon now. Would you walk into a Rambo movie and say 'Gee,.. I sure hope Sylvester Stallone isn't as violent as in the other installments.'
I want my Robocop movies to be violent and action packed. It is why the remake failed.
Orion's rush to make the sequel def hurt the resulting film. The RoboKane design was really awesome, but I wish we had gotten to see the Corporate Wars developed as the sequel.
So like most of us who grew up in the 80's and 90's, I loved the first Robocop and I actually bribed my cousin to take me to see Robocop 2 after I accidentally bought the comic book adaptation (I didn't read the title carefully, I just thought it was a new Robocop comic). Either way, I enjoyed it. I was just upset when I found out that the magnavolt car security system was just a movie prop instead of an actual product. I still want one of those.
The dismantled Robocop haunted me for a long time.
I find this Robocop better than the original. Especially considering the feeling I felt when I watched 3 in the theaters. Robocop 3 focused more on Louis ( 12:14 ) and look how that turned out.
Today I learned there was a Robocop 3
Have always been a huge fan of Miller and the slightly 'off-kilter' darkness of his stories, characters and dialogue
~ so this film hit the mark for me.
my favorite part of robocop 2 is where OCP acknowledges how they can't make robocop 2.
This should be too comment. I never connected the dots, but this is brilliant.
It’s been a minute since I’ve seen this one, but I always liked it. I liked the addition of Hob as well. I thought it made sense to add a kid to the drug gang because this was something that was happening in gangs then and still happens now. The youth of any area are easily susceptible to a quick dollar. So the added allure of rebelling against your parents is too strong and many young people find themselves in gangs. It makes a stronger message for RoboCop that as an almost will-less killing machine set out to stop crime, how can he achieve that goal against his most basic programming to protect children. It’s brilliant. And in the post-Reagan and the middle of the Bush dynasty in America, both the character’s inclusion and everyone’s reaction is apt. It’s like people have forgotten the Simpson’s Mrs. Lovejoy meme that is a satire of exactly what this movie is saying with Hob. Won’t someone please think of the children? Anyways…. I think the only part of RoboCop 2 that I feel falls flat is the lack of development for Tom Noonan’s character. We don’t really learn a whole lot about him as a man. Then he’s inside of an unstoppable killing machine and we don’t have any idea what that really would do to him. We just know “drugs bad” and this that it’s a bad decision putting him in there. And I think that’s where it misses the mark. If we are satirizing Reagan era politics here, why aren’t we coming for Nancy and her “just say no” dogma?
Belinda Bauer was such a beauty back then.
That little kid was evil. And the mayor was awesome.
Not pure evil. Just corrupted.
I always imagined that Hob was Cain's chosen successor, which is why he made him watch Duffy's torture to "harden" Hob and build a tolerance for violent stuff idk
The problem with anything that came after the original is they all ignore the fact that Murphy was on a journey to reclaim his humanity. We know he reclaimed it when he smiled and said, “Murphy” at the end. Every follow up made him a machine again.
Almost like Deathlok the demolisher comics.
This movie is the 90’s incarnate. Over the top and awesome.
Out of the original Robocop trilogy, I enjoyed Robocop 2 more. It’s my favorite one. The villain scared a bit when I was a kid especially when his brain was in the jar, bit eerie. I give Robocop 2 8/10.
RIP Irvin Kershner
The first Robocop movie is a one hit wonder, impossible to remake it or even make a decent sequel because it came out of from nowhere in a way that nobody expect it in an era that no longer exist.
To be honest... its my fav robocop. Well... the original is classic but... ah cmon its epic. No matter what anyone says. Its particularly dark and gritty, the environments... everything. But those (edit: satirical) advert breaks throughout the movie are hilarious stuff.
Actually, that initial script sounds kinda cool!
It's not as good as the first, but s lot of sequels aren't. But it doesn't always mean they're bad either. There's a lot of great world building here and a lot of it still feels like it fits with what the first film laid down. Most importantly, this movie is just fun. I kind of wish maybe the finale did something with a bit more intelligent creativity to it rather than just a robot fight. But you know what it's a pretty sweet robot fight, it has one of the best implementations of switching from stop motion effects to practical effects and actors all in the same scene/shot. That one shot where he jumps off of the top of the truck onto Kane RoboCop is seamless how it transitions from live actor to stop motion model.
Robocop 2 isn't a mastepiece like the original film, but it is still a great action movie with some notable scenes. It has the atmosphere, incredible visuals and interesting characters. I also very apprecoate Hob - he is so absurd and comic-like, that you can't oversee this character. And yes, I know, that I'm an isolated case expressing such thoughts about him. Nevertheless I think Robocop 2 is an interesting approach with a superb ending scene. It sadly lacks the continuity of Robocop's character development and rapidly cuts a highly intriguing plot about Murphy's lost family life.
Maybe I'm biased because I lived around where RoboCop 2 was being filmed (I was in elementary at the time) but RoboCop 2 is one my favorites and will always have a special place in my heart.
RoboCop 2 is deceptively meta and the opening is one of the most badass moments in RoboCop history. The worst part is it suffers from Burton/Batman syndrome where the lead character is barely in the damn thing.
I love Robocop 2 as much as I love Robocop 1. The Robocain scenes were amazing.
Robocop 2 is a satire of sequels as much as Robocop 1 is a satire of 1980’s America. Everything in Robo-2 is over the top. Fans complain about Murphy reverting back to his mechanical voice, fuck that noise, I love it. Give me the intimidating Robocop voice. It’s the same as Bruce Wayne/ Batman voices.
We got the low-level crime/drug lord with Clarence in the Robo-1. Yes, Clarence was low-level. He worked for Dick Jones and he got his coke supply from the balding dude in the warehouse. We now get the drug manufacturer/cult leader, Cain. Cain has a small army to do his bidding, while Clarence had his small gang.
We get the info that OCP is making a Robocop 2. We get the trailers for the product prototypes of Robocop 2. Robocop gets stripped down by the NukeCult and rebuilt by OCP(movie studio). The role of the OCP board is pretty much a movie studio. We hear all the concerns of the parents and execs as Robocop is being too violent. OCP(movie studio) takes over the production and molds Robocop into a product of their liking and interests.
There is more and more. It’s all on screen. Great flick
Robocop 2 is a great film. The outlandish stuff is a response to a tough question “how do we make a sequel to robocop?” You try to turn it up to 11.
I have a few problems with the film. the film’s tone did a 180 when the kid was dying in the truck…it’s a really weird undeserved moment.
Also, Weller was right…the ending was just chopped off. Ok, Robocop says this and then the end. I think Porky Pig should have come out with a “That’s All Folks” sign and then drop curtain.
There’s another weird moment that I didn’t catch until repeated viewings. Robocop is fighting Robocop 2 inside the building when they both fly out. Then Robocop 2 is fighting all the cops outside. Where is robocop? After a moment it is revealed that robocop is now taking cover behind a police car, watching? Lol. Rewatch it, it’s strange. An error in editing?
Regardless, I think I’ve watched Robocop 2 more times than the original.
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This movie is super goofy, but still fun. As a kid, I loved it the most, but as an adult I kinda grew to dislike it because it completely disregards the first...
Honestly, in recent years I've grown to appreciate the third entry more. Its about mega corporations buying up property and using mercenaries to undermine kaw enforcement and the local governments, and sell out Americans to foreign interests.
Even better, they even focus back on Alex finding his humanity and course correct the series. The biggest flaws is the toned down violence because the studio wanted to make a robocop movie parents could take their kids to see.
If you look past that, there is a very engaging and heartfelt story hidden behind the silliness. Sue me, I LOVE ROBOCOP 3. It pales in comparison to the first, but its still a fun movie.
Here wer you from my man??? Accent is too familiar. 😂
Video was belta btw loved it keep it up! 🎥🎞👌👌🤖
The best way to watch Robocop 2, is to just skip to the last 45 minutes or so when the monstrous Robocop 2.0 is introduced, because it looks pretty fuckin' sick; easily the best stop motion creation since Clash of the Titan's Medusa.
Robocop 2 was a very worthy sequel, I think. I love it. You cannot replace how awesome the first movie is, but the sequel is very good. Not as violent, but still violent, maintaining and using the same environment the first movie left us. A very good sequel. I didn't like Robocop 3, clearly targeted younger, less mature audiences. But Robocop 2 was very good. And that robot with Caine's brain inside is amazing. The stop motion effect, combined with that thing lunging forward as it moves towards a target, was and still is terrifying. Very, very well done.
RoboCop vs RoboCain is one of the best movie fights EVER !!!
I agree.
Only part I felt could’ve been better was how Cain was defeated. His brain was smashed on the pavement.
But now that I think of it, I suppose it makes sense. Murphy wanted to eliminate the threat ASAP.
I really enjoyed this movie. At the time, it was the most violent movie I had ever seen in my life. It was shocking and appealed to me greatly at the time. Not as much these days but it brings back good memories watching it every so often.
at 3:18 when talking about the writer's strike, video says "1998", I think you meant "1988" considering the movie came out in 90
Its awsome .great action ,ultra violent its up there with any follow up film .its got a very very sadistic feel to it and dosent pull its punches .the 1st is a masterpice but this is a worthly follow up
The movie that made me love Tom Noonan.
Best actor to never hit it big
Loved it as a kid, still do. Was the reviewer even born at the time of this movie? Wayyyyy too critical on a cult classic. Btw Cane plus his robot form was awesome, it gave us the best robot rumble of the time.
Remember owning this and watching at 5 years old. Special place.
Robocop 2 was the film that reminded me why you should never do drugs!
"Say, isn't this a school night?"
I love the song in the arcade. The kid goes wild by Babylon AD
Some serious foreshadowing in RC2 from Detroit declaring Bankruptcy and protests for defunding the police.
Wow, I didn't know that Robocop 2 was so widely disliked. After seeing it for last time, I thought it was almost as good as the first one. Although, some of the criticism presented in this video does seem valid. I don't have any issues about the Hobbs's characterization, though. So what if it's "inappropriate"? The first movie had a bunch of different things that are also inappropriate. That's part of what made it so great!
EDIT: One more thing I like about the movie is the slight change of colour in Robocop's armour. I think the more blue shade fits him better, since he is a policeman.
The first movie that i saw in a vhs as kid was Robocop 2, i was maybe 3/4 years old, my mother was against that i started seeing violent movies but my father didn't care 😂😂😂. Since then is my guilty pleasure movie. After Robocop 2 i saw T2, Predator and all Alien movies. What a great childhood... So many memories.
I'll forever defend RoboCop 2. Severely underrated. Yes, the original is a masterpiece, so it pales in comparison, but, this is still a solid sequel with top notch action. It's the best of any RoboCop content we got after the original.
And, I dig the music. It suits the sequel.
It wasn't quite as good as the first one. But I enjoyed the dark humor and the satire. And I thought the kid villain was one of the best parts of the movie. It was pretty good.
I don't think the writers strike in "1998" as you said would have much effect on a 1990 movie.
I have always loved 2 since I was a kid when it came out. It is by no means the masterpiece the first one was but it is still a solid movie. It needed more on Murphy and his family. It should've been what T2 was to the original.
I love this movie and loved the effects.
4:56 Hell, I had a Robocop helmet.
Colour me curious, what's with the contemporary photos of Frank Miller? He wasn't nearly as Father Time-looking when the film was made, as seen in his appearance in the minor role he plays in it.
Robocop should have been a standalone movie, it comes full circle with the Christ-like martyrdom, resurrection and second coming of Murphy (in the end, he regains his humanity). No sequel ever had anything to say, just products from Hollywood suits’ sausage factory (and the reboot was uncalled for). It amazes me those same suits didn’t try to launch Total Recall 2, 3 and so on, of course, without Paul Verhoeven (they did make that awful reboot, though)
It's by no means perfect, but compared to all the other RoboCop sequels in cinema, in television series, or reboots, it's by far the best of a bad bunch.
RoboCop 2 basically took the sadistic elements of the first film and dialed them up to a 10. There are scenes in that second film that had no business making it into a final cut, certainly not when you consider the film had yielded to marketing towards teenagers.
I feel like everybody gets Hobb wrong. I think what the writers were going for wasnt to just push the envelope with a foul mouthed, violent kid, but to show how society was failing the youth. I mean, look at the scene with the baseball team. A dozen kids, robbing a store. It was a social commentary on nature vs nurture. These kids were doing terrible things because they didn't know any better. Hobbs was the same. He didnt have anybody in his life who raised him right.
Never understood why Murphy goes back to being a full on robot with a robot voice after he is humanised at end of first movie. Had it been revealed he was acting to turn off OCP and get under the radar, to expose the horrific robot human testing, or something, would have been interesting, but Robocop just ends up walking around dealing with things happening to & around him. So not one I return to often.
You should give it another watch. Robocop is very much Murphy throughout the second movie. When he's on duty he's playing at part. He has to act tough to be taken seriously, but he still has Murphy's sense of humor. The joking around him and Lewis do while they sneak around spying on Hob or breaking into the nuke plant is great stuff.
I actually like the sequel as much as the first, but in different ways. 3? Not so much.
I honestly liked. Hobs. It did exactly what it intended. Appealed to a young kid who has fond memories of the movie and that character.
It’s up there with Gremlins 2 of self-aware sequels
I always thought that Robocop 2 was "morally bankrupt", and I realise now that Hob is the reason. Children should not be trying to be adult antagonists, in movies OR TV shows.
"Cain, Let's step outside."
"That thing is a killer!!."
Definitely like the first 2. Robo Cain was needed. He needed a formidable foe, and Cain was a no joke
I think I saw this one more times then the first one as a kid. :)
I love how Terry Pratchett adapted a large bit of the plot of Robocop 2 into his book Feet of Clay
Not just the best movie called "Robocop 2" but also the 2nd best Robocop movie.
At least it was no RoboCop 3.
Robocop, Ranbow and Terminator especially T2, where young kids films in another time, less obsessed with pride and more open
While I can understand why people think the first one was better story wise. RC2 is my favorite. It's campy and yes there's a lot of loose story bits. but Robo Cain to this day is my top villain. I still have nightmares and I'm 34 XD