I love that your keeping the old school alive and showing that a lot of street tricks are still possible on an 80’s style board. Also thanks for the valuable info on equipment and setup for those of us getting back into the sport!
wow reminds me so much of 1989.. in a good way. :) I was there when all this went down and we all had so much fun from 1986 to 1991ish..then it went dark.
This vid made me wanna get a wider shaped board. Was stuck on 8.5-8.75, and may still use them, but I actually ended up get a New Deal Steve Douglas with Indy 169 Forged Titaniums and Ricta 54mm 92a Clouds. Its 9.75×31.6 with a 14.5-15 adjustable wheelbase and floats like a dream
Nice video! Loved seeing all the old school tricks. I just ordered a Powell Peralta reissue today and picked these wheels for the setup. It’s an early birthday present to myself for my upcoming 44th birthday. Can you say “mid life crisis “? 😜
I hate to say it, but I'm actually jealous of that Lance Mountain setup. The more and more I watch old skate vids, it makes me want to get as Aerosmith would put it,"A big 10 inch!". Keep up the slappies and dont be afraid to grab your board and just get weird with it!
Fav tricks you did were the F/s Varial Boneless, F/s Boneless to sweeper, Hurricane to Fakie and that F/s Slappy No-Comply Tailslide really threw me. Damn good. Kill it!
Good job. You were channeling Mike Vallely for a minute there. Nice to see a younger person who is into old school. I've never seen a Lance Mountain deck like that before. I was going through some old photos of mine and I think I had some white Rat Bones like that on the deck I remember skating the best on, a Vision Kele Roscrans, which I just ordered online. I'm thinking of getting some Rat Bones for it if they get them back in stock. Back in the 80s I'm pretty sure they made those in harder durometers. I remember a friend having some 97as. I'm pretty sure they were Rat Bones. I would prefer 95a or 97a, but, I guess 90a is as high as they are making them now. I think you would be able to slide better with the harder durometers. I almost thought you had blue Ventures. I had a pair of those "back in the day." Long narrow axles like that. I'm not sure how easy to find Indy 215s even are now. For some reason, NHS only has up to 169s listed on their website. I just got some 159s for a Ray Barbie deck I had from around 1990 and they fit perfect. However, that deck has a really short wheel base (I want to say it's only like 13 5/8") and the tail is kicked up a lot. Way different than skating a Popsicle board. I wasn't sure if I could get away with not using a riser with some 53mm Mini Logo A-Cut wheels, but, it looked like wheel bite would be an issue unless I really cranked the trucks tight. So, I put a 1/4" riser on it, which makes the tail even more kicked up. I can't see myself using the Barbie deck much. Once I get the Roscrans which has a 15" wheel, I'm hoping I find it more skatable. I used to be able to ollie over 5 boards interlocked vertically. My ollies are sucking these days. So, I'm curious what I can do on the Roscrans board and how it compares to the Mini Logo Popsicle boards that I've been skating. I just upgraded to a 8.5 Mini Logo deck yesterday, which I like better than the narrower boards I had been using previously. I don't think I would want to return to a 80s style 10" board, but, I just find narrow boards to be ridiculous. It's like riding a 2 x 4. Even the 8.25" deck I've been skating felt that way after spending a few minutes in the Barbie deck. I agree with you about the shape of the wheels. Wheels that are symmetrical on both sides are better IMHO. I tend to cone my wheels out. Especially, the front ones from tic-tacing around. So, i rotate them and flip them. Pretty cool seeing someone young doing old school tricks, not making fun of it.
Dude, awesome review of these wheels - you examined every aspect of them. I wanna see some more reviews of these old school decks! Flat-tails with a nose on them are super-rare nowadays and I would love to know where to find some of these.
You're channel will defintely grow successfully with G-d's blessing just as Ben Degros has. Plus I tried slappy blunt slide and messed myself up but getting closer thanks to a replayed vid about it that you made.
Nice video. Regarding wheel shapes. Longboard and surfskate wheels are wide and square in order to increase the contact patch. Contact patch refers to the surface area a wheel makes with the ground. A wheel with a round edge is lighter, flips easier, and slides better but still has the width needed to protect the axel. The downside of these wheels is they lose speed quickly in flat areas. A big wide square longboarding wheel has a large contact patch which makes it more grippy and more difficult to slide but your weight is distributed over a larger area and it’s easier to maintain speed, even in flat areas.
hey Thorne (cool name by the way) just came across your channel nice work ;; good to see young fellas ridin old school im 54 i ride 10" Lucero with bones rats back in the day there wasn't as much choice as today ive always used the red bones for street and love the way they slide not so many tricks those days you could tell a hot street skater had the thinest wheels from sliding and could trade your thin worn down wheels for newer ones with the more inept skaters it was a win win ! ha ha
Definitely get the new Dragon Rat Bones 93A that Powell released a few months ago. They are narrower but have the same shape, and slide better. Pretty much the perfect cruiser wheel IMHO. Especially for a Powell board like that.
It must be a newer one. It's got a huge nose. The original one didn't have that. Like the original graphics way better, but, it's a cool deck nonetheless. Would prefer having the longer nose as far as skating it goes.
How do these wheels go in the bowl on wide cruisers? Looking for a grippy wheel for my RPK which can still break out a slide.. Great wheel reviews btw. Bought the dogtown 80s 97a based off your reviews and can’t wait to try em when it stops raining!
I have Lime Green Rat Bones on My 9.3 Anderson Flight Deck. This is an ideal set up for traveling long distances. I put 3 riser pads on it and it just glides
Rat Bones are excellent cruiser wheels. Got a set of 90a 60mm. They are big, fast & fantastic. I prefer 92a for a cruiser but whatever. I also recommend Slime Balls. They might come in a 62mm. Ricta clouds if you want 52-54mm. That's what I know from experience. Oh, Bones Bombers if you wanna go scary fast. Still have a set from like 1998. 70mm, 85a. Gotta get risers for that.
I’m looking for advice on trucks. Do you feel the 215’s are adequate with the offset of the rat bones or would you have gone a little smaller considering your feet might get tripped up.?
I'm wondering the same. I'm looking for offset wheels for my Indy 139s to fit a 8.5" deck. I have some super soft ones which fit perfectly but want some harder ones to fit and thinking these might be a good option. How much do they add to the axle width?
@@loadedfun4764 thanks. I had to use a smaller size truck with my current wheels as the core is offset so they stick out beyond the axle adding 0.5" to the axle width. Wondered if it's the same with the Rat Bones.
Interesting. Love it! .... I always preferred Santa Cruz Slime Balls 8a. They've got the greatest slide-scream. I'm looking now to see if you've done a video on them. This is the first of your'n I've seen. Oh. And the Lance board. One of my fave's. Great board. .... My all-time fave was the H-Street Matt Hensley King size. With Indy 169s and 1/4" risers. slimeball 88a. Schmitt Stix rails. (EDIT: I see you haven't. Seriously, check em out.)
There are 100 dragon wheel reviews but no one compares them to Powell 90a or 95a that they already had been making. They are fast and slide well, so I’m wondering if the dragons are really anything different or just right I inbebetween at 93a
Dude are these wheels even available now? If yes, then where ???can u plz share links...I am looking for some good cruiser wheels, 58 to 60mm max....rounded edge and should slide easy, speed checks I mean...thnx bro
Probably the Spitfire 80HD 54-56mm wheels. They're soft to cruise over things easily but they come in a standard skateboard wheel shape so tricks won't be affected as much compared to a bigger and wider soft wheel.
@@ThorneBenatar I got into a cruiser board just a few weeks back, and I am 43.....so tricks is not what I am looking at , not interested.. however, getting on and off curbs for sure, manuals and small OLLIE'S for a more flowy crusing...but most importantly, speed check and easy to slide wheels...so more interested in size 58 to 60....56mm I guess will be on the smaller size for the kind of roads we have here ...
@@ThorneBenatar how about the mini logo wheels, price seems to be very fair, the rest of the brand are double the price....and suggestions under the mini logo brand for me?
I have both. The difference seemed neglible. Actually, Powell released a Dragon formula of them that are narrower and 93A. I have those two. Better than both the others. Skate over rough ground like it's nothing. I was doing manuals on them on really crusty beaten up asphalt the other day and it rolled over it like it was nothing.
@@Natecoxy Powell has re-issue wheels for Rat Bones and G Bones. I think those are using the same urethane from the 80s. Or at least they have the same shape. The Rat Bones are 80A for the black ones and 90A for the white ones. The G Bones are 97A. A couple months ago, Powell released a version of Rat Bones and G Bones that use the new Dragon formula urethane, which is 93A. The versions of those wheels are a little narrower than the originals. They slide better. I would definitely go with the Dragon formula versions. I have the originals and the Dragon ones and much prefer the Dragons. Regarding Rat Bones versus G Bones, I think it mainly depends on whether you want 60mm wheels or 64mm. The G Bones are taller. The other thing is, Rat Bones are offset wheels. The wheel extends out over the end of the axle about 1/8". So, if you want the wheels to line up with the side of your deck, you want to go with a narrower set of trucks. For example, I have a Powell 8.75 Popsicle shaped deck that I have Rat Bones on with Indy 149s (8.5"). It's pretty much a perfect fit. I like the Rat Bones better because a prefer a less tall wheel.
@@idmhead0160 I've got all the reissue wheels, I ride rat bones 90a and mini cubics regularly. I'm just wanting to know if the dragon formula soaks up vibration better than the 90a rat bones or if they ride harder. Dragon formula g bones are $129 here in NZ so trying to find out if they'd be any good for a cruiser before I waste my money
@@Natecoxy IMHO, they eliminate the need for the old formula. I can test them side by side to refresh my memory and get back to you, but, off the top of my head, my impression is that the old formula no longer serves a purpose. The new ones slide better and roll over rough asphalt no problem. Way better than smaller wheels, even smaller Dragons. If you don't care about doing slides and you are only cruising on rough pavement, checkout Mini Logo AWOLs 80A. They have them in 55, 59, and 63mm. They are definitely the fastest of the wheels that I've used. Better than the harder wheels. You can't really slide with them though. The Dragon G Bones slide better then the reissues do even though they are 97A. If nothing else, because the wheels aren't as wide.
I love that your keeping the old school alive and showing that a lot of street tricks are still possible on an 80’s style board. Also thanks for the valuable info on equipment and setup for those of us getting back into the sport!
And also showing what REAL street skating is. Not a whole bunch of super tech ledge or freestyle
wow reminds me so much of 1989.. in a good way. :) I was there when all this went down and we all had so much fun from 1986 to 1991ish..then it went dark.
This vid made me wanna get a wider shaped board. Was stuck on 8.5-8.75, and may still use them, but I actually ended up get a New Deal Steve Douglas with Indy 169 Forged Titaniums and Ricta 54mm 92a Clouds. Its 9.75×31.6 with a 14.5-15 adjustable wheelbase and floats like a dream
Lance Mountain deck is a thing of beauty one of my favorite graphics for sure
You were killing it on those old school tricks
Nice video! Loved seeing all the old school tricks. I just ordered a Powell Peralta reissue today and picked these wheels for the setup. It’s an early birthday present to myself for my upcoming 44th birthday. Can you say “mid life crisis “? 😜
You ever get your board set up and ride it?
@@jamessparks5966 Sure did! Made a quick little video on the set up. Check it out! ruclips.net/video/qmYQc86URaM/видео.html
@@bmcossette Cool deck. Never seen that one before.
I hate to say it, but I'm actually jealous of that Lance Mountain setup. The more and more I watch old skate vids, it makes me want to get as Aerosmith would put it,"A big 10 inch!". Keep up the slappies and dont be afraid to grab your board and just get weird with it!
Fav tricks you did were the F/s Varial Boneless, F/s Boneless to sweeper, Hurricane to Fakie and that F/s Slappy No-Comply Tailslide really threw me. Damn good. Kill it!
Just made an old school board with oj super juices, thinking I might have to get some big harder wheels to swap when I feel like it! Nice tricks man 🤙
Yoo your skating is sick! This is exactly the type of skating that i want to do! Mike V must be an inspiration of yours, no?
You have a good style with just the right touch of aggression
Good job. You were channeling Mike Vallely for a minute there. Nice to see a younger person who is into old school. I've never seen a Lance Mountain deck like that before. I was going through some old photos of mine and I think I had some white Rat Bones like that on the deck I remember skating the best on, a Vision Kele Roscrans, which I just ordered online. I'm thinking of getting some Rat Bones for it if they get them back in stock. Back in the 80s I'm pretty sure they made those in harder durometers. I remember a friend having some 97as. I'm pretty sure they were Rat Bones. I would prefer 95a or 97a, but, I guess 90a is as high as they are making them now. I think you would be able to slide better with the harder durometers. I almost thought you had blue Ventures. I had a pair of those "back in the day." Long narrow axles like that. I'm not sure how easy to find Indy 215s even are now. For some reason, NHS only has up to 169s listed on their website. I just got some 159s for a Ray Barbie deck I had from around 1990 and they fit perfect. However, that deck has a really short wheel base (I want to say it's only like 13 5/8") and the tail is kicked up a lot. Way different than skating a Popsicle board. I wasn't sure if I could get away with not using a riser with some 53mm Mini Logo A-Cut wheels, but, it looked like wheel bite would be an issue unless I really cranked the trucks tight. So, I put a 1/4" riser on it, which makes the tail even more kicked up. I can't see myself using the Barbie deck much. Once I get the Roscrans which has a 15" wheel, I'm hoping I find it more skatable. I used to be able to ollie over 5 boards interlocked vertically. My ollies are sucking these days. So, I'm curious what I can do on the Roscrans board and how it compares to the Mini Logo Popsicle boards that I've been skating. I just upgraded to a 8.5 Mini Logo deck yesterday, which I like better than the narrower boards I had been using previously. I don't think I would want to return to a 80s style 10" board, but, I just find narrow boards to be ridiculous. It's like riding a 2 x 4. Even the 8.25" deck I've been skating felt that way after spending a few minutes in the Barbie deck. I agree with you about the shape of the wheels. Wheels that are symmetrical on both sides are better IMHO. I tend to cone my wheels out. Especially, the front ones from tic-tacing around. So, i rotate them and flip them. Pretty cool seeing someone young doing old school tricks, not making fun of it.
Dude, awesome review of these wheels - you examined every aspect of them.
I wanna see some more reviews of these old school decks! Flat-tails with a nose on them are super-rare nowadays and I would love to know where to find some of these.
You're channel will defintely grow successfully with G-d's blessing just as Ben Degros has. Plus I tried slappy blunt slide and messed myself up but getting closer thanks to a replayed vid about it that you made.
Nice video. Regarding wheel shapes. Longboard and surfskate wheels are wide and square in order to increase the contact patch. Contact patch refers to the surface area a wheel makes with the ground. A wheel with a round edge is lighter, flips easier, and slides better but still has the width needed to protect the axel. The downside of these wheels is they lose speed quickly in flat areas. A big wide square longboarding wheel has a large contact patch which makes it more grippy and more difficult to slide but your weight is distributed over a larger area and it’s easier to maintain speed, even in flat areas.
hey Thorne (cool name by the way) just came across your channel nice work ;;
good to see young fellas ridin old school
im 54 i ride 10" Lucero with bones rats
back in the day there wasn't as much choice as today
ive always used the red bones for street and love the way they slide
not so many tricks those days you could tell a hot street skater had the thinest wheels from sliding
and could trade your thin worn down wheels for newer ones with the more inept skaters
it was a win win ! ha ha
you just inspired me to give skateboarding another chance
Definitely get the new Dragon Rat Bones 93A that Powell released a few months ago. They are narrower but have the same shape, and slide better. Pretty much the perfect cruiser wheel IMHO. Especially for a Powell board like that.
85a rat bones are my new fave, also love the 90a... later to try the dragon rat bones
5:47 beautiful old school set up
That lance mountain board is a thing of beauty
Right
It must be a newer one. It's got a huge nose. The original one didn't have that. Like the original graphics way better, but, it's a cool deck nonetheless. Would prefer having the longer nose as far as skating it goes.
@@idmhead0160 yeah it’s got a full size nose
Sick board and trucks
How do these wheels go in the bowl on wide cruisers?
Looking for a grippy wheel for my RPK which can still break out a slide..
Great wheel reviews btw. Bought the dogtown 80s 97a based off your reviews and can’t wait to try em when it stops raining!
I have Lime Green Rat Bones on My 9.3 Anderson Flight Deck. This is an ideal set up for traveling long distances. I put 3 riser pads on it and it just glides
Good boneless!! I loved it. Nice set up. Thx 4 your video
Watching this made me wanna go outside and skate thank you hahaaa 🙌🏽
There's no better time than now to practice and improve flatground! 😊
@@ThorneBenatar What risers are U using? And what size are the wheels?
I use half inch with looser trucks, but he is probably using 1/4 or 1/2 inch.
Rat Bones are excellent cruiser wheels. Got a set of 90a 60mm. They are big, fast & fantastic. I prefer 92a for a cruiser but whatever. I also recommend Slime Balls. They might come in a 62mm. Ricta clouds if you want 52-54mm. That's what I know from experience. Oh, Bones Bombers if you wanna go scary fast. Still have a set from like 1998. 70mm, 85a. Gotta get risers for that.
Slimeball big balls slide nice.. Or zip zingers.. Nice vid bro
I got some slimeballs 66mm and they're fast! Like 1 push and they just keep Rolling! Im hitting a little over 30 mph on small hills
@@burtman9649 what bearings are you also using?
Nice video dude 🙌
I’m looking for advice on trucks. Do you feel the 215’s are adequate with the offset of the rat bones or would you have gone a little smaller considering your feet might get tripped up.?
I'm wondering the same. I'm looking for offset wheels for my Indy 139s to fit a 8.5" deck. I have some super soft ones which fit perfectly but want some harder ones to fit and thinking these might be a good option. How much do they add to the axle width?
@@wallimjamm Indy has a size chart.
@@loadedfun4764 thanks. I had to use a smaller size truck with my current wheels as the core is offset so they stick out beyond the axle adding 0.5" to the axle width. Wondered if it's the same with the Rat Bones.
Interesting. Love it! .... I always preferred Santa Cruz Slime Balls 8a. They've got the greatest slide-scream.
I'm looking now to see if you've done a video on them. This is the first of your'n I've seen.
Oh. And the Lance board. One of my fave's. Great board. .... My all-time fave was the H-Street Matt Hensley King size. With Indy 169s and 1/4" risers. slimeball 88a. Schmitt Stix rails. (EDIT: I see you haven't. Seriously, check em out.)
There are 100 dragon wheel reviews but no one compares them to Powell 90a or 95a that they already had been making.
They are fast and slide well, so I’m wondering if the dragons are really anything different or just right I inbebetween at 93a
Great video! Any tips for mastering sliding on an old school board?
wow those 215s you lucky bastard :)
looking forward to more vids man !!
I’d be interested to see what you think of g-bones
Damn those tricks looked legit
Rad set up ur videos rock
Dude are these wheels even available now? If yes, then where ???can u plz share links...I am looking for some good cruiser wheels, 58 to 60mm max....rounded edge and should slide easy, speed checks I mean...thnx bro
skateone.com would probably be your best bet. They're the ones that distribute Powell Peralta, Bones, and Mini-Logo.
Good vídeo!Old school is Always cool!
i got a natas single kick with gullwing trucks. i wanted the mini cubics but i ended up making it more of a curb/mini ramp board
Check out the dragon formula wheels or the Powell g slides.
That's some good humor with that bonelesses hahahaha thanks
It's cool you ride both style
The black 85a are good cruiser wheel. I have the bones threes on my ripper
i like the lance mountain board
There are g bones, they are 97a, 64mm slide great
And yeah, I am getting an 8" board with fury trucks for cruising...not old school I guess...what wheels would you recommend...
Probably the Spitfire 80HD 54-56mm wheels. They're soft to cruise over things easily but they come in a standard skateboard wheel shape so tricks won't be affected as much compared to a bigger and wider soft wheel.
@@ThorneBenatar I got into a cruiser board just a few weeks back, and I am 43.....so tricks is not what I am looking at , not interested.. however, getting on and off curbs for sure, manuals and small OLLIE'S for a more flowy crusing...but most importantly, speed check and easy to slide wheels...so more interested in size 58 to 60....56mm I guess will be on the smaller size for the kind of roads we have here
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@@ThorneBenatar how about the mini logo wheels, price seems to be very fair, the rest of the brand are double the price....and suggestions under the mini logo brand for me?
@@amit2897
You get what you pay for. I would stay away from mini logo anything. No comparison to PP wheels,or decks Oj wheels close second.
@@Andyooohhh I disagree, Mini Logo IS Powell. I've been using 101A A-Cuts and they've been working fine for me.
No wheel bite with the 1/4inch risers?
I was wondering the same thing. I’d say you’d be fine but the g bones you’d def need 1/2
The black ones would be better cruiser wheels as they are 85a. The white and other colors are 90a
I have both. The difference seemed neglible. Actually, Powell released a Dragon formula of them that are narrower and 93A. I have those two. Better than both the others. Skate over rough ground like it's nothing. I was doing manuals on them on really crusty beaten up asphalt the other day and it rolled over it like it was nothing.
@@idmhead0160 the dragon 93a feels softer/better for a cruiser than rat bones? I might get the g bones version if that's true
@@Natecoxy Powell has re-issue wheels for Rat Bones and G Bones. I think those are using the same urethane from the 80s. Or at least they have the same shape. The Rat Bones are 80A for the black ones and 90A for the white ones. The G Bones are 97A. A couple months ago, Powell released a version of Rat Bones and G Bones that use the new Dragon formula urethane, which is 93A. The versions of those wheels are a little narrower than the originals. They slide better. I would definitely go with the Dragon formula versions. I have the originals and the Dragon ones and much prefer the Dragons. Regarding Rat Bones versus G Bones, I think it mainly depends on whether you want 60mm wheels or 64mm. The G Bones are taller. The other thing is, Rat Bones are offset wheels. The wheel extends out over the end of the axle about 1/8". So, if you want the wheels to line up with the side of your deck, you want to go with a narrower set of trucks. For example, I have a Powell 8.75 Popsicle shaped deck that I have Rat Bones on with Indy 149s (8.5"). It's pretty much a perfect fit. I like the Rat Bones better because a prefer a less tall wheel.
@@idmhead0160 I've got all the reissue wheels, I ride rat bones 90a and mini cubics regularly. I'm just wanting to know if the dragon formula soaks up vibration better than the 90a rat bones or if they ride harder. Dragon formula g bones are $129 here in NZ so trying to find out if they'd be any good for a cruiser before I waste my money
@@Natecoxy IMHO, they eliminate the need for the old formula. I can test them side by side to refresh my memory and get back to you, but, off the top of my head, my impression is that the old formula no longer serves a purpose. The new ones slide better and roll over rough asphalt no problem. Way better than smaller wheels, even smaller Dragons. If you don't care about doing slides and you are only cruising on rough pavement, checkout Mini Logo AWOLs 80A. They have them in 55, 59, and 63mm. They are definitely the fastest of the wheels that I've used. Better than the harder wheels. You can't really slide with them though. The Dragon G Bones slide better then the reissues do even though they are 97A. If nothing else, because the wheels aren't as wide.
Ok...Cruiser wheels? Who told you that Rat bones are cruiser wheels?
RUclips kook! *Ben degros wants to know your location*