Fiona Harvey (Baby Reindeer) Caught Lying | Body Language Analysis
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Baby Reindeer is a recently released Netflix mine-series that has become the topic of intense conversation recently. One of the people portrayed in the series is a person named Martha who is accused of stalking the main character Donny (based on comedian and show-writer - Richard Gadd). The person which the role of Martha was allegedly based on has come forward to speak against the series, those who created it, and the platforms that stream it. In a recent interview with Piers Morgan, Fiona Harvey attempts to clear her name, but things don’t go how she plans. This is my body language analysis of that interview.
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"It was a joke" said every narcissist ever
Yup. They test the waters to see what they can get away with. If they don’t like the reaction they get then they try to play it off.
The way she said it, too, got my attention. That's somebody who has used that evasion many times.
@@reginageorge5409 I hate that, and if you say something back they call you 'too sensitive'
Story of My Life. I mean that's down to the T exactly the same. @@Crimson11100
Everybody on youtube knows exactly what a narcissist is.
You missed the great part, where she says she has a photographic memory and then said she couldn’t remember her law degree results!
nah - that was Piers not understanding the Scottish education system. She was very clear and said it was not an honours degree, and that she only had an ordinary degree. This means that she took the law course but achieved a degree at a lower standard than an honours degree and didn't get enough credits to be awarded an honours degree. The ordinary degree that she claims to hold would be a pass/fail marking, without any "usual" grade attached (i.e there is no 2:1, 2:2 etc).
@@grantmorriss2557if she had a photographic memory shed be able to remember her module grades though surely
@@jadesx96 as someone w photographic memory- we can definitely remember things more accurately, like a photo, but if i don’t have interest in something or for whatever reason i don’t fully acknowledge it, i wont remember it as well, think of like… a blurry photo? like i maybe ill remember something like a number sequence or a certain color, but nowhere near the accuracy if i had actually paid attention to it.
Makes no sense. Anyone can remember their grades. I have a TERRIBLE memory. I forgot things in 10 mins and I can remember my grades, it’s not a hard to thing to remember at all. If she’s a lawyer she would have had to remember her grades and told them. She knows what she got she doesn’t want to say
@@emfi16 I mean Id like to think most people who are proud of their degree are interested in their grades 😅 I dont have a photographic memory but I can remember my classification and the generic ballpark percentage of my final degree grade
How on earth did the actress portray her so uncannily without having met her?
She based the character on what he told her, what he wrote in the book, play, & scripts…
@melissajayneuk I agree. I def think he let her listen to the voicemails to prepare the character. Which tells me there were enough for her to actually study to get her voice down lol
@melissajayneuk the actress's voice is already like that. gadd said in multiple interview that he had her in mind for the role, which makes me think he already know someone who embodies her voice and somewhat looks. all he had to do was add in some pointers
@melissajayneuk - more than likely the creator shared evidence with the production team…
@@9razzler9Jessica Gunning is British, not Scottish. She developed the accent for the role. So Fiona's complaint about her accent not being perfect is rubbish. She's from West Yorkshire .
Im sorry but that pronunciation of Edinburgh is a crime against Scotland
😂😂😂
TRIGGERED!
Absolutely 😂🏴
Edin Berg 🤭
That mispronunciation sent me here to the comments. 🇬🇧🏴 As a Brit in Germany and it drives me nuts as it's pronounced here E-din-burg!!
“None of it’s true! I didn’t have a reindeer toy. Okay, I did, but that’s it, it was a joke. I never sent him messages! Well, just a few emails, banter.” WILD.
You look like her, I’m uncomfortable around you. You’re toxic.
Also she said she never sent him letters then later said she sent him one or two 💀💀 guilty
Yeah she said she didn’t have a reindeer toy but later said she did ...
😂😂😂😂😂
Pathological liar tendencies
"I never had his number so how could I leave him voicemails"
"actually, there was one voicemail"
"he must have recorded my phone calls"
"but I never had his number"
giiiiiiiiiiiiiiirl...... wtf
She is obviously not well mentally.
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She didn't say phone calls she said he recorded her during conversations
Yeah, in her boomer brain, I think she was confused. She’s certainly not educated too much technologically as much as she thinks she is. I think what she was trying to explain, was that she thinks he recorded her in person on a digital device such as his phone but she was too flustered in the interview by that point hahahaha
Which I personally think it’s true as he even put that in the ending of the series, where he recorded her in person. She’s never been arrested? Yet he did that so he could get her arrested. The truth is in the middle lol
She sent him a letter, but doesn't know where he lives...
On the 41k emails thing - there's an old twitter account of hers which was active for 18 months from 2016 to 2018 and she made 53.4k posts many of which included photos. So she's clearly capable of sending that volume of emails...
Wow!
Also Richard stated that he was stalked by her over the span of 3 to 5 years, not just one. So that would be 23 to 37 emails a day. Which when you consider some of them are like 5 words long, that's very believable
@@elzzz2000and she has no employment, so she has a lot of time on her hands to send lots of emails.
Some of her older tweets at him were sent between May 2014 and Nov 2015, so AT LEAST 1.5 years, and definitely not 3 months as she first said, it's hard to believe her
What’s her twitter account name?
"I didn't send him anything"
"Maybe a handful emails, 18, maybe 10" plus twitter, facebook, voice messages
"I don't even know his adress"
"I sent him one letter"
"I didn't see it at all"
"They portray me as .. and .. and .. and make me look like .. and .. and .. and i have never done this and that and that, the girl of someone have seen it and told me .. your staff told me .. "
"I have a photographic memory"
"I don't remember this .. i don't remember that .. i don't remember my marks i got on my degree, i did alright, not the best of the year .. "
Piers:"so you accuse them of lying, netflix and Richard?"
"No."
Piers:"but you said that this it's not true and that netflix and Richard lied about the whole thing"
"Okay ,Yes, they're liars!"
"I have like 6 different emails adresses. Maybe 4, probably 6. It's 6."
"I have never been at any show of his"
"I may have been to one show"
"No one i know has seen the movie"
"I've been told from people who have seen the movie (..)"
"I didn't sent so many emails, not 41000 .."
" .. but even if a did (..)"
P:"How many relationships did you have?"
"More than Richard!"
"I don't know how many relationships he had"
"I don't really use technology that much"
"I have 6 email adresses, 4 phones (..)"
"I have never seen the actress .. "
*knows her exact looks, her age, her accent, everything
"We are friends (..)"
"We're not friends"
"I don't have his number"
"I DOUBT that he has voicemails (..) maybe 1"
"I'm not at all like Martha"
*is EXACTLY like Martha*
"They're lying! I'm gonna sue them"
P:"so, do you challenge him to come out with proof and show the proof"
"NO!
"I didn't see it at all"
*knows that she is being depicted and comes to Piers and says it's not her and even quotes things from it*
"I have a lot of friends (..)"
"My work friends, my professional friends and others.."
"I didn't watch it at all .."
*has facebook post about watching it*
"I have seen him 2 or 3 times .."
" .. 5 or 6 times .."
*knows his exact work schedule and claims he had recorded her*
P:"would you wanna take a lie detector test?"
"Yes, yes! Probably .. yes. I have to talk to my lawyer about that .. but what for?!"
I could go on and on. That interview but nothing but a try to deny everything and gaslight the whole world into believing that she is the victim but failing SO miserably and lying SO badly, it completely backfired and proved so many things of the documentary 😁 she's a 100% guilty of something, without a doubt. And she'll not sue anybody for sure because then they'll get to the bottom of things and track everything back, she doesn't want any proof to come out and said it herself. She is clearly lying and is for sure guilty of most of the things, if not all, clearly.
Sent from my iPhon
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 she’s the worst liar ever and the fact that she’s calling herself a lawyer…
Exactly!! It was super cringy to watch all the lies. I love the "Sent from my iPhone" at the end. haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂 love it
What’s with the novel u wrote in the comment section? I didn’t even read it since it’s too long.
“I only sent him 13-14 text messages”
Later...
“I didn’t have his number”
Thats enough if you are not friends as she said.
@@preciousdevere288 the point is... how do you text someone if you don't have their phone number?
THE biggest tell (& i've worked w/law enforcement) is that when Piers offered a simple solution to prove she's telling the truth: having Gadd show the emails, voicemails etc., her immediate response is "No." And then she adds, "I just want them to leave me alone." A) if you are telling the truth you would say: YES! let's see the proof B) when you are not telling the truth the LAST thing you want is for them to show proof you are lying C) If you want them to leave you alone, you don't go on TV, talk about a lawsuit, seek out publicity. You hope & pray it all just goes away. And even though the sleuths found her, she could not engage which quickly puts out these type of fires. She WANTS and NEEDS this attention. In it, she perhaps sees the hope of re-igniting her "relationship" with Gadd.
Of course all that stuff was a lie.
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All of this has just reinforced 16:41 that she won. She knows she is NOW and will always be a major part of his life. She is responsible for his fame and fortune throughout the world. Everyone knows who she is because of her “relationship” with him.
@@GeorgiaJakes7 Everyone's a winner. She wants a share of the dosh, though!
To any men out there that are experiencing abuse, stalking, or toxic behavior, it doesn’t make you any less of a man. Speak up, ask for help, find your village. You don’t deserve to suffer because you’re a man and society has certain expectations set on you❤
This! ❤🙏
But looking at the way everyone seems to be responding , you can see why a male could be reluctant to come forward. Even women willingly getting involved with some abusive men, returning when they were able to get away, get a free pass" power" " manipulation" etc is always brought up. At least Gadd had the honesty to look inside himself but that ends up being held against him.
100%!
@@valfanclub Yes, same goes for women and everyone else. People are being invalidated and doubted whatever situation they face. There will always be guys saying 'that she did something to deserve being treated like shit' or that 'men are weak for talking about emotions'. Victim blaming caused so so so many people anguish and suffering and its all the fault of society and gender construct.
#MenToo
Richard Gaad mentioned on an interview, that the messages used on the show are real, but the unravelling of the show was done in a way that showcases his emotions rather than being an accurate depiction of facts..
Emotionally immature individuals will have a very hard time understanding that concept unfortunately
Thank you for sharing that; it's a very important piece to understanding this entire narrative; because personally, I believe the third side of this story needs to be revealed.
He also wrote a disclaimer in the comments.
@@beingbettertoday Shouldn't have called it a 'true story'. Very misleading. And making it so easy to find her true identity.
@@Globaldave1970it’s “based on a true story”. I don’t understand how proper don’t get that. of course they are going to make choices to adapt the story for a more engaging watch. It is tv, after all.
She says the Netflix show is untrue because the actress doesn’t look like her and the actress playing her doesn’t have a good Scottish accent. 🤔
I am flabbergasted that the actress portrayed her so uncannily without having met her
Yeah she complains about her "not being like her" but she's also mad cos the actress was so much like her that she's been tracked down 😅
How can that be, she never watched it! 😂
😂the actress playing Fiona is scottish
@@carolminto4055 no, she isn't. the actress is English.
*She has a law degree. She’s unemployed and living on benefits. She’s NOT a practicing lawyer.
And how do you know about her benefit status? And how does it pertain to anything? She could be on benefits due to health reasons which she mentioned
@@LadyLuck13That’s what she said to the reporter from the tabloid that interviewed her. And thinking about it, fair point, who knows if that was truthful.
@@LadyLuck13 It pertains to the whole segment wherein he said "She's also a lawyer... so we know she's somewhat intelligent." Even if she earned a degree, we all went to school with people who barely scraped through on the teachers' whim or laziness. Even if someone is out on medical leave, there's a big difference between a practicing lawyer and an idiot with a piece of paper, especially when the Bar gets involved. Based on her directly contradictory statements juxtaposed in single sentences, I wouldn't be very confident in her work as a lawyer.
But yeah, I'm sure she has a great head on her shoulders.
@@LadyLuck13That wasn’t a judgment, just a statement of fact.
@@LadyLuck13 Not sure if you watched the series but there was an episode where Martha kept mentioning names which were people in her life (friends) but spends the whole day at the bar for the whole day. In PMs interview, Fiona Harvey mentioned her "lawyer friends." I don't think it needs a lot of common sense to know that this woman who PM interviewed is telling the truth.
-"Do you challenge him to show proof"
- "NO"
Why not? I'd say "YES ABSOLUTELY"
Exactly. It's really all we need to know!
No! NO! Just stop talking about it!🙄
She was nodding along agreeing and then he said that and she was like NOPE NOT ASKING HIM TO SHOW PROOF NOPE DONT DO THAT 😂😂😂
She couldn’t have shouted it any louder 😂😂
Because she doesn’t want him to whip out the 41k
Emails 🤣 that’s why she also won’t go to court lmao
"I don't lie".
Immediate vibes of
"I don't sweat"
😅😅😅
I never pee.
😂
She is unemployed....therefore she absolutely had time to stalk this man. Like she literally had 24 hours....everyday at her disposal to make richard her job.
41,000 is not the correct, it must have been rounded up or down, assuming it's true. 41,000 emails over a 3 month period is 456 emails a day. You try writing 456 emails on a non smart phone a day and see how far u get....
So ALL unemployed people are stalkers now?
@@michael-4k4000this was over a course of 4 years in real life. So around 28 emails per day is doable as she was unemployed and also mentally ill. Obviously the OP is not saying the unemployed are stalkers.
@@michael-4k4000hello Fiona…
@@thirstaefortae5057 how do u know. She said 3 months, then said a year, the show seemed like a few months.
You can read in her face when she says something then her brain screams at her “TAKE IT BACK! SAY SOMETHING ELSE!” then she walks it back. It’s painful.
I think the biggest moment was when she slipped about how many emails and phones she operates. She realised right away and just decided to go with the flow.
So true
Yes true
let me get this straight. she's gonna sue him for defaming her in a show that she didn't watched. ok
Of course she has watched it...........zillions of times. Probably know ii off by heart.
Lol of course she did, no one doubt that .. probably a zillion time … I’m just pointing her illogical argument.
@@Globaldave1970 Of course. But her public stance is "I am going to sue, but I haven't watched it".
Exactly nor wouldn’t anyone think it was her bc the character was so off… yet she is the only one who knows for a fact that he was talking about her buuuuuuut he isn’t talking about her bc he’s lying 😂😂😂 the insanity
A show that never named her on top of that. She's just incriminating herself each time she opens her mouth.
I saw her Facebook page she posts VERY frequently on the daily about similar/same topics, the way she types and spells on her Facebook page is EXACTLY the same as what was depicted on the show. I think she’s absolutely done everything she’s been accused of. The woman is incredibly unwell and terrible at lying
well technically she wasn't accused of anything. they never exposed her identity. she outed herself. therefore she can't claim defamation. she will have to prove that the character Martha is about her(good luck with that, they never explicitly said it is) and that it was created to deliberately assassinate her character, again good luck with that, they never exposed her identity meaning it would be hard to prove that defamation was the motive.
@@dominicijavier1575 unfortunately she can. He used real Twitter posts she wrote to gad. That’s how the internet found the real person. She didn’t out herself. The real Twitter posts, in the series, on her real Twitter page did lmao. She simply said something about it
@@gigiamour with the real handle of the real person? cause if it was edited in any way for cinema, that doesn't stand. and then again if those are real then what's defamatory about them? it only proves that her tweets were used. it's a weak case.
@@gigiamour with that, defense still stands. they never explicitly said "Fiona Harvey is a stalker." or "Martha is Fiona Harvey" nor was there intention to connect Martha to Fiona. no slander was made. can't prove that they deliberately made the character martha as character assassination for fiona. just so happens that people on the internet are crafty and made the connection.
maybe she can sue for the use of her "intellectual property" seeing as they used her tweets but then again I believe tweets are considered public property and can be used in media without consent. but not defamation.
why would you stalk a stalker?
I was waiting for this! I knew you'd cover it. Excited! - Sent from iPhoen
What is an IPhoen?😂
@@WhoAmI2YouNow it's from Baby Reindeer. It is frequently spelt incorrectly throughout the show.
@@WhoAmI2YouNowwatch the show. Instead of trying to correct her you were corrected lolll love to see it
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FOUR to SIX phones ?
We can barely keep track of ONE !
It took me years to keep track of ONE and not lose it . But Six? Why ? Why not have 2 Google Voice Accounts and 2 phones?
I have a phone for each of my contacts. That way I know who's calling....
@@michael-4k4000This seems like a joke but if you do it looks like you have around ten or more phones for each member of your friends, family and work group??
I’m in my 30s, and haven’t even owned four to six phones in my whole life 💀
That is most odd. Six email accounts and six mobiles? I keep all my stuff in folders ie utility bills etc on line. You keep the same number with a new mobile this is very suspicious.
She’s not a lawyer. She has a law degree. When she tried to work as a lawyer, she was fired after two weeks.
Same with Logan, he's not an actual behavior analyst. He's not an expert in this field, and his credentials are null. I would suggest for everyone who wants to understand what's really going on with this channel to watch Oli Delgaram Nejad's video on Logan. He explains it well for anyone to understand what his 'credentials' actually are.
I didn’t know him I only met him two times at most. But only sent one letter to him and emailed him a few times. He didn’t show interest in me because I’m pretty sure he was a homosexual. He tried to sleep with me. What?
Exactly! Double-talk at its finest!
Yes! And she says we were friendly it was banter but they "didn't know eachother"
@@jade22x92 Yes! She said we were all friends when Piers brought up that she tweeted him quite a lot for someone she had only met a few times. Like stick to one story if you’re going to attempt to lie.
Also "we were friends"
I never sent him 350 voice messages! NO! Don't ask him for proof I did!
When I was a teenager I stalked a teenage boy. I was obsessive. It started as a crush and got out of control. I later grew up and was diagnosed with borderline-personality disorder, and have spent my entire adult life trying to learn (through meds and therapy) how to emotionally regulate myself in more healthy ways. I find it interesting that as an adult (we are in our 40’s now) he Facebook requested me. I accepted but have never communicated with him. I do still get a weird fix from knowing he’s in my Facebook friends. I don’t know him, never had a conversation with him in the last 25 years, yet would feel upset if he suddenly deleted my Facebook friendship. Mental health is so complex. I believe from my experience that these two (Gadd and Harvey) are still getting supply from each other. 🤯
I think if more people were honest, they would have a similar story. A crush they chased, even stalked by today's definitions.
When I was being stalked in high school, everyone told me it was romantic.
So when I did it to a boy, constantly showing up at his job, making mix tapes for him, and even signing up for a class just to bump into him- I thought it was romantic. That someday, he'd realize the right girl(me) was there all along.
Isn't that how it goes in movies and songs?
As we age, we get some maturity and perspective. Learn to be better at boundaries. Both hearing them and setting them.
BPD must have added another hard layer besides cultural conditioning for you.
You were a teenager though, and aware that it was your emotions that you needed help with, Richard lead her on and even stated he liked her attention, I'm not saying what she did was right but they are both messed up and I think him more so as he has been dragging this show on it was a play before netflix and i think his stalker genuinely stayed away from him while he's been laying on this for some time now
Good for you for opening up and being honest about it. I hope you’re doing well and your mental health is better.
I commend you for getting treatment for your bpd. It's a difficult disorder to deal with and not many people do take responsibility for it. Keep doing so. Thank you for sharing your experience.
I think they both are at fault too. He’s just making more money out of it. Or maybe they’ve planned this together.
When she says she doesn't know him, and then says they were all friends 😅🙈 also doesn't know where he lives but sends him a letter 🙈
Could she have sent it to his agent?
And who is WE… the several different catfish accounts that she made to look like she has friends or people in her life.
‘sorry to hear you were ra*ed kind of thing’ letter, oh yes how stunningly empathetic of her 🤦♀️ good lord! 🙄 this woman! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Right?! That was such a weird way to reminisce on that instance.
It's embarrassing how obvious her lying is 😬
My thoughts exactly. Morgan had an panel of 'experts' wondering whether she was lying or not. C'mon... de old adage... you can't fool a fooler' it's demons so obvious to me
That pronunciation of Edinburgh genuinely threw me for a loop. Took me a solid 10 seconds to realise what you were actually saying 😂
my jaw dropped when he said it 😭😭
Idk the right way to even say it and still turned my head
@@5h4d0w5l1f3 😂😂😂 it's Ed (like the name)
In
Burr
A (pronounced as a toddler would) hahah
I agree 🤣
That pronunciation will live with me forever 🤣🤣
Her claiming he may have recorded her in the bar is wild, when you remember in the show she had recorded almost all of their interactions
I saw this interview before watching the show and rewatched the interview when I finished the series and thought the same thing, that one detail was the smoking gun that made it crystal clear to me that the story is true. Especially because she mentioned not having seen the show, who besides her thinks to tape everyday banter? Why is no one talking about THIS
150 recordings when she claims she only saw him there 3 times
My father is a Narcissistic Sociopath, I have PLENTY of experience with Nutters and the expert is right, she will NOT be able to take responsibility for her behaviour, everyones out to get her, she WILL play the victim.
Couldn’t say it any better myself and I’m the scapegoat
But now… “everyone is out to get her” is literally true, so that won’t help her psyche at all.
@@Kharizmah but thats the thing, she doesnt care either way or she wouldn't have come out on her own. She will still blame EVERYONE but herself, thats how narcissists are. They dont see reason and even if they know theyre lying they will not give up that facade or get professional help. Theyre convinced they dont need it. People being out for her doesnt affect her, I promise. At least not in the same way a non-narcissist person would be, bcuz she believes to be 100% in the right. Ive dealt with this my entire life and my dad would shamelessly and so obviously lie to my face, saying Im at fault for something he provably did.
@@TobyStanI always hope that the narc will reach the point that they’ll sell help. My husband was paranoid beyond reason… I couldn’t imagine him actually having a reason to be that way. To me it would just further cause him to justify his behavior and thus never seek help.
@@rachelhoward1359 Me too :) I am wondering if you are a truthteller/truthseeker ........... it often happens with scapegoated child :)
The "4 phones, 6 emails" thing hits me. My mom's the same way, she's paranoid and deals with major bi-polar disorder (bipolar 1). That admission just confirmed that this is probably the "unwell" person Gadd was dealing with, and still dealing with obviously.
She’s gonna release a book/podcast/show punish Gadd and gaslight us all IMO
What does bipolar disorder have to do with any of this? I'm asking because I have bipolar disorder and have nothing in common with this woman.
@@kwhite749 "Individual cases may differ" is a string of words you might want to familiarize yourself with. "She's paranoid" came before that. She has many other issues on top of the bipolar disorder. I'm sure you probably know bipolar disorder usually isn't the only thing causing problems for people dealing with it. The point was this woman definitely seems unwell in some way. No one was talking about you at all.
@@chase5436I think the person you responded to commented that defensively because mental illnesses like bipolar are often lumped in together when talking about cases like this of stalking or murder or other violent crimes and it can feel stigmatising. And then people's understanding of conditions like bipolar become warped, when it doesn't represent us much. Martha shows no real indication of bipolar at all in the show. I know that wasn't your intention of your comment at all, but I understand the slight defensiveness as well.
Obligatory "for a lawyer, she's an awful liar" (followed by the obligatory, "that's probably why she's not a lawyer")
The way she smacks her mouth open before every heated question like she can't breathe and needs to rush it out right away but reminding herself to maintain a calm demeanor is so weird
Exact definition of "gobsmacked" 😮 u have a 'well I never...." Attitude which screams I did exactly that but it's blown out of proportion it wasn't my fault and I didn't do that
She moans throughout and drags out the last letter of the word at the end of a sentence. Strange
The Netflix show is “based on a true story “ not “everything depicted in this show is true” but it seems Fiona can’t wrap her head around that concept
Not only Fiona but a lot of people who are interested in the case. Gadd himself said that the prison sentence didn't happen in real life. And yet ppl point that discrepancy all the time.
You are wrong there. The claim is that it is a “true story”. Not that it is “based on a true story”. And that could be a big problem for Netflix and Gadd.
@@personalcheeses8073yep !
Except, Richard Gadd has also publically stated elements were fictionalized ao....@@personalcheeses8073
@@personalcheeses8073Yea I was surprised they went the extra mile to say “This IS a true story” when it’s common practice to use “Based on a true story” Very tight rope they are treading.
She seemed stuck on the fact that she was never arrested or convicted, but Gadd has also said that part was fabricated for dramatic effect and to provide a kind of closure to the viewer. He said that in reality, he would not prosecute because she is mentally unwell and he sees her as a victim of a failed system.
That's the worst pronunciation of Edinburgh I've ever heard 😂
I came here looking for this comment! Never heard anything like it in my life😂
Omg as a Canadian I think i would’ve pronounced it the way he did 🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
agreed but irrelevant
Came here to say this 😂 noooooo
i live in Indiana and we have a town called Edinburgh (pronounced Edin-burg) and were it not for my Scottish ancestry i would absolutely pronounce it that way 😅
Her insistence that he could have recorded her and passed it off as voicemails tells me she knows he has recordings. No ones first response to "did you leave voicemails" is an alternative explanation of how he might have them. She's trying to eplain away evidence that she's claiming he doesn't have. Wild.
Am I the only one who finds that ex-prison warden and psych guy really annoying? She's already stalked the guy who wrote an article about her and said some of the same things she says here. Her put-downs of Gadd are the same as they are in the show. She's clearly ill and needs help, but that doesn't mean Gadd doesn't have the right to tell his story. What's scary about the interview is that you can see glimpses of her behavior as it's depicted in the show. Frightening. She needs help, let's hope she gets it.
Yes that man has always annoyed me for some reason, I hate when he’s featured in crime shows in the UK but I don’t know why he annoys me so much 😂😬🤷♀️ what’s happened to his voice now? It sounds like he’s forgotten to put his teeth in for this video or something 🤔🤷♀️I’ve not seen this psychologist before though if that’s the guy you actually meant? 😂🤷♀️
Yes, her and the character in the show are uncanny! How embarrassing for her.
It's fascinating how closely her turns of phrase correlate with the presentation in the series. Imagine not seeing a person for years, and then writing a screenplay about them, and conveying their mannerisms so damn accurately to the actress playing Fiona. It's remarkable. Brilliant characterisation.
Nah ,only similarities is because of the Scottish accent and biased thought @@batintheattic7293
I don't think she'll get help. She most like has a personality disorder and people with personality disorders rarely think they need help.
She sent him a letter, but doesn’t know where he lives? Huh…
To his studio. But she did know where he lived.
So she wants to sue Netflix for a show she never watched and for a character that isn’t her. Ummmm okkkk
YESSSS I JUST FINISHED WATCHING THE INTERVIEW and could not stop thinking about how brilliant it would be to see her body language read!
Wheres the full interview? İ cant find it
@@tuana2773piers morgans uncensored
@@tuana2773it’s on piers morgan uncensored RUclips if you still haven’t found it
@@tuana2773it's Piers Morgan Uncensored with Fiona Harvey
Where can we watch it in full? Can't find it
Although the show says "this is a true story" Gadd has said the show reveals an "emotional truth" that's been based on real experiences. Perhaps when the show starts with "this is a true story" they meant this emotional truth, because it was the emotional truth that was more important to the art/story overall - afterall the show is ultimately about trauma. And one important detail that everyone seems to have missed is that in the credits of episode 7 the show literally says "BASED on real events" . Gadd/Netflix never lied to us.
🏥 9:07 😅
Misleading at best
@Globaldave1970 Yep, just a ploy to lure in viewers (worked though 😅).
@Globaldave1970 It literally labels itself as a drama miniseries tho, not a docuseries. And says in the show that it's based on a true story, which it is. I'm not sure how that's misleading? It seems ppl just didn't read. I don't think the show needs to spell out what parts are dramatized in order for it to not be misleading
I had no problem with her body language, but she lost me when she tried to pronounce "hyperbole".
Hyper Bowl.
Hell, I’d watch that on Netflix.
@@poetryjones7946😂
I screamed hyperbole out loud, alone in my room
I notice a LOT of people pronounce it that way. I'm a chronic word/ sentence corrector (silently to myself or out loud at the TV) BUT cut her some slack on this one. Not spoken often so she must have picked it up through reading. No big deal and at least she reads!
In UK, I have heard it pronounced like that many times.
Leaving 8 hours for sleep, 112 emails per 16 hour day in a year is only 7 emails an hour. If those emails are things like 'I just ate an egg' then that'd be pretty easy to do.
She is a dangerous person.
I'm a little sad you didn't include the discussion about her schooling and grades...that was wild.
"I have a photographic memory"
"what were your grades?"
"They were alright"
" But what specific grade were they?"
"They were alright. You can't expect me to remember them"
😂😂
@blobfish. "I was top of my class"
"Well I wasn't top of my class but I did alright"
This part, that was such a wild part of the convo!
It wasn’t wild. She didn’t want to share them, I wouldn’t share mine either…
To be fair she was being asked to recall different courses that make up an ordinary law degree, that's recorded only as a pass or fail. She didn't do an honours degree which would involve a certain level of pass e g. First class, second class upper and lower and a third. I've seen people jump on this but I think actually Piers just didn't understand what she said.
Him: You calling them a liar? Her: well I ain’t calling them a truther!
This is the behaviour and speech pattern all narcissist's use.
Having a conversation with them is "word salad". NOTHING makes sense, the avoidance tactics, never answering a straight forward question, excusing terrible behaviour (verbal and physical ( as a "joke"...then telling you to get a sense of humour and not be so sensible, when you react as anyone would (taken aback, offended, upset...)
Pierce did a fantastic job, he is completely unflappable. Nothing gets past him, he can see right through any lies and insincerity.
Can’t imagine ppl giving my ex a platform. He has been stalking me for years. Luckily he is in another state and he hasn’t reached out since I changed my number and deleted my social media, but when I finally decided to file a restraining order against him and tried asking his friend for his address to serve him, the friend said that my ex said I was the one stalking him. I was shocked and livid. Let’s see receipts. I have all the receipts. He has nothing.
This guy has done the same thing to his ex. Look her up.
You are watching an abuser.... he has done this to his ex. And he's a fraud.
Can you shed more light on this Amber?
@@Jer_bear865his ex has made a lot of claims with (imo) “proof” of very questionable authenticity. Seeing as they’ve also mentioned being bipolar and again what they show as proof isn’t very strong, I’d wait to see any legal repercussions before assuming the accusations are true.
@@amberhoward7807 What are you doing here if you believe he is an abuser? Also, stop saying that as if it’s FACT. Has it occurred to you that his soon-to-be ex wife is simply trying to ruin his career the most effective way our society subscribes to because the woman she brought into their relationship (with the whole “I can do this but you can’t” fake poly bs) ended up being more interested in Logan than her. She’s understandably hurt but..come on! If you pay attention without bias, you’ll notice the holes in her version and the many instances she actually appears to be the problematic one but hey, if we don’t automatically believe he’s a monster we’re monsters too. 🙄🚫
I really, really pray that she doesn't start stalking him again after all this. He's been through more than enough for one lifetime ❤
I just hope that old Piers didn't give her that glass of water...
Tbh. I think she never really stopped, just stopped bothering him. You see her here mentioning before anybody knew that she’ randomly came across him making a movie and a movie he’s making is coming out’ lol yeah sure, she most definitely still keeps up with him, but secretly.
Personally it shouldn't of been made, this attention isn't good for any of them as he has claimed he lead her on too and did some wrong. It needs to be left alone but it looks like he's been dragging this out for a while now
Of course she will. But he made it public so people will be aware of his case now and hopefully understand and protect him, he should be able to take faster action with the police as he got record of it all. I can imagine her watching all the deep dives & reviews videos she's probably got multiple accounts calling him mental and defending herself. These people never stop. my boyfriend friend had a stalker about 15 years ago and still to this day he gets messages & fake accounts made of him
@@verbalverbosity actually pmsl, good one 😂😂😂😂
I heard heterosexual and not hypersexual. Im the only one?
Correct. He got that wrong.
No I think he’s referring to her trying to brag she’d had more partners than him
True, heterosexual.
Yessssssss! On popcorn 🍿 planet’s live w/ the Piers interview everyone kept saying we need a body language analysis & here you are!!!
Ive tweeted him ‘a couple’ of times…Well 14 or 18 times.Piers; “Thats quite a lof for someone you don’t really know” Fiona;“We were all friends”.(30 min. later)Piers; Were u friends? Fiona; “No!”
What technology do you use? A very old smartphoen that’s it.(a view mom. Later)
Pierce; How many phones do you use 2day?
;”I’ve got 4. I like to keep ppl on seperate phones.”
I’m not a liar, I only tell white lies to save ppl cause I’m such a good person , (taking zero accountability for literally anything.)
I think she said heterosexual, not hypersexual.
Yes, she did.
In all the panic gobbledygook it’s hard to understand her.
She did. But wouldnt having "lots of partners, lots more than gadd"... be the same as hypersexual anyway?
Yeah, definitely said heterosexual not hypersexual.
@@amberhuntsman5221i know haha I don’t believe her when she says she hasn’t watched it but when she said that I might believe her. He admits to sleeping around a lot in the series.
Just as a reference point: I wrote around 250 emails (sometimes very long) per work-day (8h) in my customer service job and did calls and other tasks as well so 100 short emails per day is really not absurd
Never thought I'd say I appreciate Piers Morgan for conducting an interview. Her answers here will strengthen Gadd's case if she does try to take him to court.
But she didnt go to prison. I doubt it will come to court. But they should make a season 2 and she should play herself, LOL.
Yes, I dislike old Piers, as well.
Narcissists either uphold each other's delusions, or battle to the bitter end, with no in-between.
Psychology in Seattle and Observe in one video?! 😮😮
I just finished Dr Honda going over the interview. 😊 A panel would be great.
😊
Side note-she said hetero sexual not hyper.
Sent from iphone
I think it was because she said she's had way more relationships than Gadd.
- sent frm iphon
Excellent! Was hoping her body language would be studied! She gives me vibes of Kathy Bates in Misery. There was something very off about her interview with Piers.
Thought the same thing and gypsy roses mom put together
I was thinking the same about Kathy bates in misery!
Good comparison !
I was watching this interview earlier today and wanting you to review this.. this came out fast!!! Thank you!
That is the most insane pronunciation of Edinburgh I’ve ever heard 😂
The eye raising during the question being asked about the emails was like she was searching in her mind if the figure was correct.
Richard Gadd came out and said that some things in the show were fictionalized! Do your research before you say things that can make a victim look like a villain, there is no such thing as a perfect victim!
We want to know which bits. To what extent did he lead her on? Quite a lot, I would say.
@@Globaldave1970Big “she was asking for it with her short skirt” energy from this comment
@@melancolie83 Not at all. But why go on a date with someone who is stalking you? He deliberately made her obese where in real life Fiona was quite attractive 12 years ago, and certainly not obese. Its just his side of the story. Of course she is a pathological stalker, but he is not being entirely truthful.
@@Globaldave1970maybe he felt the actor portrayed the emotion of the character really well? You could even argue that he was hiding her identity more if the case was that she wasn’t ’that obese’. And, if he led her on, it still doesn’t matter. Women are abused and killed by their own husbands everyday, it’s more likely going to be someone close to you that will abuse you statistically.
@@Libralina18 Well, the actress does look like her, and certainly can act like her. But he said, "I dont think she will recognize it's her" which obviously is delusional. Anyway, its certainly got everyone talking.
Wow this lady is scary, I only watched the Netflix series yesterday and I can't even pretend to understand how terrified he must of of been
I’m sure she sent the emails the way she posts on fb. One thought at a time in rapid succession.
She’s nonstop. And scary.
Your pronunciation of Edinburgh (ed-in-buh-rah) was physically painful to me as a Scot.
Ouch, part 2. From Alabama - now in LA - and shuddered a bit, myself to hear it.
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Re: the cringe factor, YT has a small army of 'experts' in their fields - ones who leave things like pronunciation and grammar for sticklers. (Or, for pompous Karens, depending on one's POV.)
Tbh, it actually
only bugs me in one instance...
The guy's followed by millions - many of whom are kids, and in nearly every one of his shorts, utterances like, "I seen... ", are par.
Lastly, fwiw, I've performed at your city's amazing festival a few times. Absolutely love everything about it - especially the kind, witty people I've met there.
Paz y luz ✨️
The coverage I’ve seen of this on mainstream American media today has me livid. They present the interview as if she was entirely credible and it’s a he-said-she-said. GMA didn’t even entertain the idea that she might be lying and the hair-brained anchor ended it with “That show is so cringey, lol.”
She could looked right at the camera and said “And I’m a big fat liar, *smile” and mainstream media would have left that out and presented it as the truth.
Welcome to the American mainstream media, my friend.
Didn’t expect anything else from US media.
As a European, this doesn’t surprise me at all.
I just cannot stand our TV media at all. Don’t watch. Not good for our mental health.
If everyone would just stop watching that crap? They would change or be replaced by better things.
Would have liked you to look at her weird body language when she watched about court dates and pleding guilty and the sentencing ... there was definitely something about her body language there
This! There was some rapid blinking, like she was going to cry. Seemed like she was taken back/reliving that moment.
@@samt523it looked to me like she was mentally checking the dates, because that's the moment the eye fluttering happens is when the judge mentions the timeframe of the stalking.
Thank you for including the clips with the criminology expert and Dr. Honda. I think it's so valuable to have that type of context before this interview. It really helps people process their own feelings around people like this.
David Wilson, he is amazing love his work
The pronunciation of Edinburgh is hurting my soul right now 😫
Small correction: at about 42:00, she said she was “heterosexual”, not “hypersexual”. It’s a bit difficult to make out if you’re not familiar with her accent, plus she and Morgan were talking over each other.
I thought she said heterosexual as well. I thought I was maybe mishearing it
The "hyper" refers to the amount of partners she allegedly had, according to her own, trustworthy self. She is portraying herself that way.
I heard heterosexual too. Im not a native speaker and her accent is a challenge for me.
I heard it as heterosexual too. And I work with the Scots every day so have got pretty good at understanding the accents
@@sarahmayer7026 yes that’s what I got from that too !
He also mentions something along the lines that she tried to show off that she had way more relationships than Gaad
I was waiting for this video! Just watched the interview, what a roller-coaster in it self.
Clinical psychology student here-that psychologist’s take was wildly incorrect. Narcissism is correlated with both parental neglect AND parental overevaluation. The psychologist mentioned neglect as the main causal factor (which is not always the case) and completely failed to account for the significant role of overevaluation as well. Also, the notion that borderline personality disorder underlies all narcissistic personality disorder is ABSURD. BPD is completely distinct from narcissistic personality disorder. They can be comorbid, but are entirely distinct. Martha is likely someone who suffers from BPD, not NPD. That psychologist needs to catch up on research in the field before he goes around spreading misinformation.
(Edited to account for research that correlates neglect with NPD)
You're definitely a student as you got the narcissist part wrong
You're definitely a student as you got the narcissist personality part wrong
His whole analysis is awful. He also seems to not actually understand her speech.
@@BruceLee-fd7uwas I stated, yes, I am a student. Here are some citations for my reference to narcissism and parental overevaluation, which was been widely researched.
Brummelman et al., 2015
Coppola et al., 2020
Van Schie et al., 2020
And here is a study about the lack of solid link between narcissism and trauma: Dragioti et al., 2012
As always, research is mixed, but this relationship is widely accepted in the clinical psychology field. If you would like more references, I’d be happy to provide them for your perusal.
Hey Emily do you think someone can have BPD and be narcissistic? I was in a relationship with someone with BPD who seemed very narcissistic to me as well. I do agree that what he was saying didn't make a lot of sense but I do have that personal experience so I don't know what to think? Good luck with your studies!
at the end credits of the series, it does note that some names, incidents, places, etc have been changed. so it’s a true story but with some artistic liberties (her going to jail) . i’d love to see her take a lie detector test.
and i’m hoping you did some research and know she’s not a practicing lawyer.
Right?
The Pianist is a true story but obvious to tell present a story dramatic license is used. Netflix has a legal department. This isn't their first rodeo.
Total lack of transparency, denial of information someone with a photographic memory definitely would know, redirecting, evasiveness, obfuscation, and all she’s there to do is tear down the story Gadd has told. If she were an innocent “victim” falsely and libellously portrayed, she’d tell her side and her side would offer a clear and plausible a ternate explanation. I doubt that, I don’t know - lawyer speak that leaves room later if caught out to say I never said definitively that did t happen. I said I didn’t know for sure. It’s been a long time. I guess I’d forgotten.
She is going to start stalking Piers next. Watch out.
When she says things like "we were trying to encourage him (Richard) with this first show or something like that..." she uses WE several times. Who is "we"? Is she referring to herself in the 3rd person plural or is she trying to imply that she was sending these messages in conjunction with other unnamed people?
I thought this! Why doesn’t he pic up on it 😅
She is hard to understand, honestly, between the accent and the lying.
Must of been the Royal We
I’ve been checking your channel everyday waiting for this vid, I’m so excited dude 😭
She’s done herself a real disservice by doing this interview, it hasn’t put her in a good light. She’s not coming across as credible.
How can she be so bad at lying and lie this much? 😂
She did mention being a diabetic - constant thirst being a symptom of uncontrolled diabetes. So yes, a dry mouth would explain the water drinking, and shouldn’t be explained away through body language analysis. Please note that dry eyes are also a symptom, and can explain rapid blinking in some instances.
i have bpd and the part where the psychologist was explaining npd hit me really really hard, i related to every single bit, made me realise how much crossover and similarity there is between cluster bs, i'm sorry for anyone who had to grow up this way and has to deal with these disorders, it's a living hell but we can get through it
Hugs, it doesn't have to be hell forever, we do recover.
I love that you are learning about yourself by integrating some of these ideas.
yo i have never wanted to see your video as fast as i did when i found out about this interview!
Isn't it just so fascinating!
ps im Scottish and the Law Degree she speaks of is a simple 2/3 years at college with a certificate to say you passed. It is entry level qualification that allows you to work in the legal field...
BUT this is NOT the same as a Law Degree from University that allows you to actually practice law. If that makes sense. In other words, she definitely lied.
Oooooo I was waiting for this as soon as I heard about her interview!
Immediately starts to sow the seed that she "wrote the show in her sleep" and came up with the title
I mean 1. RG said it was a true depiction of his emotional experience. Not an exact play by play of events 2. He flat out stated that changes werr made to key antagonists to protect their identities. 3. He asked people not to track down the real Martha as she's unwell and he does has empathy for her. No matter what the truth - i am having trouble seeing grounds for defamation. If Fiona isn't the basis for Martha and there are no emails texts etc that link her to that character then the case can be made that shs wasn't the inspiration for Martha,, Richard never claimed she was, etc. If the emails, voicemails, and such do exist then it's the truth and therefore not defamation.
Grounds would be she is not an ex-con... and maybe other made-up events depicted as true.
@@Globaldave1970 not defamation since at the end of the episodes it is stated that some things are fictionalized for dramatization
Yes I was praying you would analyse this interview. Thank you so much. You're amazing xxx
You know this guy is a fraud right?
Hows that then ?@@amberhoward7807
@@amberhoward7807how’s he a fraud?
@@amberhoward7807 Don't be a hater
@@amberhoward7807don’t be a jealous hater. Why waste time on someone you don’t like
Oh my gosh, Logan! The pronunciation of Edinburgh 😂😂 hurt my head but eh, it is what it is! Glad you covered the interview =D
The fact that she thinks recordings of someone talking in a pub could be confused for voicemails is absolutely hilarious. A voicemail is a very, very specific context. Somebody conversing in a pub has never in this universe resembled a voicemail message.
Sounds to me like she knows those voicemail messages will be used against her in court and her defense will be "that's just a recording of me in the pub". Which will be absolutely hilarious. No jury on the planet is going to confuse voicemail messages with raw pub recordings.
Ms Harvey aka Martha already has a public restraining order against her and it dates back to abusing a female lawyer who had to get rid of her from her first ,minor position in a law firm just after she graduated in 1997 . Apparently she was impossible to work with and lasted in the jobs afew weeks, from then she started a barrage of harrassment such as abusing the lawyers family and accusing her maliciiously of punching her own child. This went on for 5 years. Although this lady's conduct is crazy what about Darrien the older scriptwriter in TV and theatre who r^ped Richard whilst he was high? No one bothered to dox and out him to the world.
Darrien is just smart enough to not announce that they're one of the real life villains in a show.
Fans have accused some people of being Darrien and Gadd came out and denied it was them. As long as Darrien doesn't give out interviews like Martha here, he can fly under the radar.
I noticed a few things watching yesterday-obv the contradictory nature of things she said, answers were all over the map. Her blinking I took note of, maybe it meant nothing but at times she blinked a lot & some of her answers were bizarre for no reason & just seemed SO odd but not to her. 6 emails, 4 phones which initially she says are for diff reasons- utilities, almost like bill collectors, close friends but then when he asks again why she has 4 she says 3 are broken which is a wildly different version of the answer though both are odd.
Every response from her reminds me of that Michael Jackson interview when he was like "None of it is true. It's BS..." hahahahaha 🤣
Clearly we need the "scientific expertise" to determine that Fiona is a liar. It was just too difficult to figure that out. You know... with all the contradictions. Bless you body language experts for exposing the completely obvious.
I came to request for this interview but ofcourse you're already SERVING
i watched the interview and i was like "i can't wait for the analysis video" hahahaha
love seeing Dr. Honda (Psychology in Seattle) on other creator's videos! Such an amazing therapist and content creator.
I was anticipating your video about this before I even watched the live stream of the original video, thank you!
I was waiting for you to drop a video on this!