Definitely cbt version 1, version 2 is horrible, the change they made to it, boring and simple its entrance and ending, I liked that boos, they nerfed it too much
Ye they should've given him a little more showtime at the end ngl with actual dialogues. In the tutorial part it's fine to keep it simple but he definitely deserved better treatment at least during the last fight lol. Also we don't even have a Crownless hologram c'mon! unless I missed it because I haven't 100% the exploration.
After seeing the reddit thread on this change, I have never so pissed off at a community. The action, immediate threat of crownless, and even his speaking role are LEAGUES better than our final product. I refuse to believe CN really complained about the 1st 2 and I genuinely cant imagine why they didnt like it.
@@dodgerpatrol anyone who malds because a fictional character doesnt beg to give them a BJ is bound to have below average intelligence lets be real. whats frustrating is kuro actually listening to these "fans"
Honestly I prefer how calm and collected Rover is in the current version, so seeing her immediately lose it in the older versions is kinda startling. I also don’t think the speaking dialogue of the Crownless adds anything here, just seems “cool”. The later reveals of hearing tacet discords speak are more impactful without this here. Genuinely I think it’s a matter of which you run into first, because while I think it’s cool to be distrusted at the start I don’t like other aspects of the old tests story. I’m a much bigger fan of the current version.
To be honest, I liked the 1st Test versions Crownless. His intimidating, omnipitent speech gave me the chills. Not to mention, his raw, brutal cutscenes were a sight to behold. If they Mix the CB2 with the version, then it could be a W intro. 👏
I mean whatever they choose to go with I believe the players will be happy. A similar idea can be used for future bosses, but yeah I agree the first crownless is the king here.
@@ben-taobeneton3945Rhin thé part that got CN players riled up is Chixia pointing the gun and being the most hostile. Make her weary but not too hostile
But for the future its not good giving tutorial boss so much things. If they keep the boss like that player would have too much expectation for upcoming bosses... And tend to be dissapointed. The released ver is fine...
@@ellsomach not really though. Especially if it's a lore important boss. Just make "story bosses" on par. Side bosses and optional world bosses do not need to be as cool as main ones
My biggest problem with WuWa is that it doesnt feel tense. Like, at all. I dont know all that they changed from CBT1, but the one thing that is a clear 100% downgrade is Crownless. They could have changed everything else and kept the Crownless as it was and that would have added the tension that WuWa is severely lacking. Here on release the Crownless is just some random enemy we beat. He makes everyones head hurt and then we beat him, are you kidding me? The CBT1 version was in another reality entirely that's how much better it is!
i mean we cannot blame kuro, instead, blame CN playerbase for hating it, Kuro had to spend like 2 years to make the story but CN community seem did not like the idea that the mc are being overwhelming at the start and yangyang in the near death situation and so kuro have only 9 months to rework ALL the story that they working on for more than 2 years, honestly, it is quite dumb reason from the CN playerbase.
@@jasonphan3669 No like, they could have kept the CBT1 Crownless intro, and then had the Magistrate call us while we are running to the city with Yangyang, and then they could cure her there. If anything, showing how strong Crownless is would have just made us look even stronger. In release we just block an attack and give him a stare. It makes us seem so much weaker. If the CN playerbase wanted all the girls to simp for us (since thats like, the biggest change from CBT1) then being this super strong badass that beat this super strong unknown Tacit Discord would've done that.
@@jasonphan3669ikr? We're supposed to be in the middle of the next Lament arriving which was world destructive. Now there's not much urgency, especially after you start leveling your characters etc. It honestly felt like a cheap attempt to make it harder, when they level capped us fighting that female crownless thing with a restricted team. That was lame.
Yeah CBT 1 Crownless cutscene was the best. They made him look powerful and intimidating not mention kick everyone's ass in the cutscene. Cbt 2 Crownless has been nerfed badly 😢
@@dariusmht Yeah but it's fine after Seeing the Holograms boss fights. That shit is 🔥🔥🔥🔥. But I do prefer the old cutscene because Crownless has more impact.
CBT 1 Crownless actually hurt one of your soon to be friends and is eager to fight. Release Crownless just bumped into you accidentally and was like "sorry bro" and stands there.
After this game was released, it turned out that using CBT 2 Lore story was the worst thing 💀 Because there is not post-apocalyptic feel, the residents' interactions with the MC are too peaceful. The lore story of CBT 1 is quite gripping, and the characters are overwhelmed Even after exploring this game (Official Release), there is no gripping feel of Post-Apocalypse This is not typical of Kurogames, which makes dark stories like PGR 😔
It feels like the CBT1 was more polished, cool, and clear to understand. + the black and white animation when Rover absorbed the boss to know more about the lore was really nice...
CBT1 probably best especially the black out when he takes out his spear has longer duration compare to CBT2 (which just in an instant), the black out is what makes everything about him feel so impactful as first impression to tell people what kind of game WW is, Kuro absolutely need to keep this part and make him live long enough for players to enjoy his full moveset+bgm at first try. Crownless is a very important first impression to sell the game that Kuro need to give him more credits.
THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING LIKE DUDE. FIRST IMPRESSION MATTERS though i like that they brought back the little jumpscare in his first appearance but that's just about it. They even rid him his cape and removed that one inch punch cutscene, even his powerful aura on that impact frame scene, just his overall aggressiveness(dude even almost killed yangyang) is absent in cbt2 imo edit: okay im stupidly blind his cape is actually still there lmao, but my main point still stands
@@BulletSponge71436 I don't think it does, from what I remember they were like 2 or 3 of this cut-scenes in the CBT and it was like 5 to 10 seconds max of length with no dialogues (kind of random/fights only too), so you didn't really learn anything really. To me it gives me curiosity of knowing what and when did it happened and who we are as the Rover more than anything. Plus the beginning of the game is where you want your player to start becoming invested in your game, and the story is a part of it for many.
Why did they change the story here though, the CBT1 scene was better, starting from this unknown monster (the voice definitely adds to its presence), them getting their asses kicked, someone getting hurt and then MC has an awakening due to that, the girls' suspicion of him also make sense, that's an emotional storyline! But the CBT2 cutscene is so happy go lucky, there is no tension, no excitement of having beaten an enemy, and they just accept the MC just like that. Idk... I thought the decision to revamp 90% of the plot is good but not too sure now
And that also makes no sense either. Like, how did you just find someone who was stranded in the middle of nowhere, has amnesia, has 'defective' tech, but strong enough to beat elite enemy that kick your companions' azz, and absorb said enemy to their body to be totally unsuspicious? I get that Yangyang looks like someone who can see the inner thought from the get go (otherwise she wouldn't give you lap pillow, lol) Chixia is most 'normal' here, in technical test, she's at least questioning you, CBT 1 is my favorite cuz she's wary of you (especially after absorbing crownless), in CBT 2 she became happy go lucky from get go which I find so mainstream n make no sense at all. Baizhi is baizhi, generally observing people from distance, tho in CBT 2 it's more emphasized.
CBT 1 is realistically approached, the MC is technically an "alien", and given this game post-apocalyptic world setting that just cherry on top. To bad they goes with CBT 2 on the final release, what happened to the first one?
@@helmiboboy Which is dumb because the best relantionships I have seen are from characters that normally don't get along at the beggining or have opposite personalities. The best charas in a harem are also those who were your enemy, antagonist or simply can disagree with your mc.
@@MrOverTyrant agreed Plus, having them hostile towards you for someone who capable to absorb Tacets in a apocalypse world.. They legitimately seeing you as potential threat to everyone for having this alien like power
@@MrOverTyrantat this point I’m just hoping that kuro would keep up with their promise that the story gets more serious and gritty as it goes, just like PGR
I feel like I missed so much from the CBT because DAMN DUDE, THE ANIMATION, THE EFFECTS, EVERYTHING. It was P E A K C I N E M A... I guess listening to the community a lot doesn't make you all glorious huh? Their ideas are being phased with every time a CN player criticizes something. I really wish they didn't change too much about the boss fight, cuz changing Chixia's personality towards Rover would've been enough. They could've kept the rest of the cutscene.
Right?, or heck they couldve just put the crownless intro of cbt2(the in your face one), then let crownless put chixia and baizha out of comission( since in original, yangyang and rover did fought crownless together), and just let yangyang fight with rover, ohhh and keep his voice too, it would have been more menacing if he does, then keep the rest
Tech test was by far the best combat version, but I also wanted him to hit our teammates like in cbt 1 and keep his face behind the protagonist like in cbt 2
Yah there was a lot more cutscenes in the tech test, but the boss was a lot more intimidating as well as just overall cooler in cbt1 but also the fight was overall cleaner in cbt2 If you take the best elements of all of them then you'd have the perfect intro boss fight
A mix of 3 tbh, technical test fight scenes, CBT 1 ending scene and CBT 2 capturing the Crownless scene. Also, a mixture of tech test and CBT 1 and little bit of CBT 2 Crownless designs
@@arkvsi8142not the game director's fault, CN server is usually the one who gives the biggest revenue for gacha games. Also the radical activities CN players does, all because they hate something in the game(plenty of accidents), Kuro is just a small company yet, not big enough to survive against the radical and crazy actions dumbass CN players will do.
A mix of 3 CBT2 design CBT1 ending Tech boss cutscene The CBT1 ending made sense. Like if you were with your friends and this new guy somehow absorbed the thing that almost got your friend killed. You would most likely keep distance and see if said person is dangerous or not Also Crownless lost his 1 inch punch in CBT2 and also that black effect of phase 2 Tech Crownless was brutal and it would fit in the world setting since those places was suppose to be dangerous after all And the CBT1 ending also add alot of character to YangYang right off the start. You get to see this girl who put others ahead of herself and why she get along with 2 of her friend
yeah but they scrapped literally everything but the ending. And everything else makes this introduction to not just the combat, but the world and story as a whole so important. Way more shoulda been kept and or recycled, very little of it was. Its a big shame imo.
The longer cutscenes, fights in cutscenes. Jeez. This is amazing so far. In this particular moment. I think CBT 1 is over-all better. I may like the introduction of the Boss in CBT 2 a little more (Of how he literally appears in your face in a second). But everything else from CBT 1 just works.
What they should do is include CBT 1 cutscene intro of Crownless beating the crap out of Chixia and Baizhi leaving Yangyang and Rover for the battle, cbt 2 of Rover blocking Cronwless and tech test of Cronwless delivering the final blow because it will show no matter how much tired he is he still keep going and cbt 1 absorption of crownless of Rover with a bit of Chixia and Baizhi being shocked by Rover ability
Yea, and make him faster in gameplay too, he has more moveset but he lacks speed. That should tell the players that this is a hard opponent that we cannot defeat easily, and of course makes him more intimidating
The answer is simple: we need old tech test Crownless x Cbt 1 Crownless x Cbt 2 Crownless = baddass introduction, badass move sets, high difficulty, and goated VFX. So basically combined everything, or why not just have all those three Crownless in one introduction for you to fight⚔️🔥
cbt1 WuWa looks like the game Kuro made. Dark, mysterious, serious and brutal. I can't really understand why final story is such "family-friendly" and toothless
The scene where you come face to face with Crownless TT (I really like the scene where he tries to speak and touch your face and Rover gets that "what the hell is that?!?" The scene where he destroys his CBT1 team (Showing like a Badass Crownless and raising the tension before the fight, making you want to overcome him, showing that there are worthy challenges in the world out there waiting for you) The final scene is Rover absorbing Crownless CBT2 (Showing that Rover has no real idea of his power and that he could do that).
They should had keep the CBT1 animation for the crownless but keep the difficulty for the cbt 2. At least the CBT 1 made him look scary and intimidating and give a HUGE impression on how the world is in WW. I hope after the CBT2 they would change the animation back to CBT 1.
Tech Test and CBT1 were very good, WuWa had identity and personality, it was a unique and not generic. I liked the colors more in the Tech Test but the Crownless' performance in CBT1 was much better, besides it had a voice and that memory was very good. But since the people of CN are all a bunch of crybaby, they decided to transform what was a masterpiece into something generic and boring.
There is a huge downgrade of this boss ngl In technical test we see him trading punch with the mc In cbt 1 he just casually wipes out the party without much effort And there is the cbt 2 one...
My exact sentiment. The more I see him in CBT2, the more I see him as punching bag more than anything, he has no impact compared to Tech Test and CBT1. They should mix the 3 of them, design wise CBT2, keep the jump scare at the start + the voice lines, put back the cut-scenes of him beating some members as it feels imposing and threatening (and seeing him "teleporting" is pretty cool), keep the glare of Rover at the start of CBT2 before the fight starts, use the longer black and white transition of CBT1 (longer), and some of the cut-scenes from Tech Test of them exchanging blows showing an equal footing before getting beaten by Rover, then finish with ending from CBT2 I guess (I do prefer the "non happy" ending on my end but I'm fine with this one too). And maybe make him a little more harder in the fight cause it conclude pretty fast for what I've seen (no need for him to be a pain for the story, just enough that he feels threatening a bit and not die in less than a minute).
@@DexyneNope the difficulty of the fight is fine, remember that you're not the only target audience, they want everyone to play this game and not to be burned out easily just because of a tutorial.
@@slowedmusic7554I'm not saying it need to be Tech Test/CBT 1 level but at least have him not getting stun lock by basic attacks when non-stop attacked. That doesn't make it a fight anymore, just him being a punching bag, and there's nothing "threatening" about it. He's just a common mob like any others at that point, at least in phase 1. But it's CBT so maybe it was just a bug. Again I don't mind the difficulty level itself (even though he does die pretty fast with the "execution skill" being now a thing), but more what the boss "inspired". In previous tests he was imposing itself and you remembered him for that, now most would probably forget about it pretty fast, which is fine I guess depending on the new story and his role/importance. Also there seems to be some non-"hardcore" players that do see it as (too) easy but maybe they had expectations prior to fighting him from talks from other players or the previous tests.
@@meraldwaves During phase 1 I think he doesn't attack first, just some taunt, so until you do he'll probably just watch you. I didn't test that much though, but I believe they may have change a little bit his stats but not that much, the rest is pretty much the same with minor changes compared to CBT2 as far as I've seen. And I think they may have removed the finisher move during phase 1, I think there was one?
Blame the CN community, they said it was too brutal for a character to be on the brink of death early on in the game. Kuro isn't really like this since one their game's called PGR has quite a dark story, though I don't see anybody complain about that, which really doesn't make any sense-
Idk I feel like the way things unfolded in cbt1 was better the doubt they had in you and seeing you as a threat later turning into an even deeper friendship is rather nice
Man, seeing what they couldve went with is heartbreaking. The CBT1 sequence was infinitely more interesting and even emotionally gripping. It made me think "Holy shit, is someone gonna actually die?"
Okay prob Kuro never gonna see this but i gonna said this anyways , my honest thought that none of the 3 really my fav but a good mix of three and it would be . I gonna points out some good , bad and what should be keep in the final release Tech test : - Great introduction how Yang yang skills , abilities works without playing her yet . - Red line Crownless is look way to cool to be completely replace by purple Crownless, at least use this as his 2nd phase form to switching between hand combat to weapon modes . - Cool throwing hand cutscene CBT 1 : - Great Team combat cinematic , showcase how big of a threat Crownless is - Yang Yang heavily injured and Baizhi , Chixia not fully trust Rover is more understandable and personally i found it fitting WuWave story theme than CBT 2 , this CBT cinametic sequence is by far the most impressive in my opinion CBT 2 : - Im sorry but rather than model updates this version is by far the weakest , feel like its was too rushed and Crownless feel just like a normal elite mob , suddenly became a less interested boss. - No big consequence in story after you beat Crownless rather than people just adore your power without any doubt you have good intention or not - The good thing prob models updates, extra QTE on the fights , cool transition camera
CBT1 was amazing ... we owe it to CN community for the final product, appearently they didn't like rover getting his/her ass handed to them and the fact that the other characters were distrustful of him/her so they re-wrote the whole damn thing. such a shame tbh.
The Crownless aside, the CBT 1 characters reaction to MC absorbing it were better than the CBT 2 version. Also, sad that they remove The Crownless voicelines
Tech Test Crownless looked like a boss character designed from PSO2's Episode 6 cast. Shame the CBT1 story design got scrapped (unfortunately because of Chinese focus groups not liking it), otherwise it would actually have more momentum (and honestly would get a lot more people hooked with the premise) than the characters being overly-chummy with the protag on release.
The fight in the first test really show Crownless personality and overall probably the best one by showcase how much struggle Rover was against Crownless like the win was really earn. The Cb1 show how intimidated he is and how strong he is by overwhelmed others so easily. Cb2 cut a ton of things from the previous tests tho. So here how I think it could be Start of the fight, cb1 The fight itself, first test. Crownless absorb cb2.
they should keep the clash between the rover and crownless 8:30 from Cbt 2. And keep the scene where the crownless beats everyone’s ass 3:44 from Cbt 1. I think if they mix this together it’ll be quite nice since the crownless in Cbt 2 looks like it got nerfed Edit: i think they should make bosses like the crownless talk when it makes an entrance just like cbt1, not full on speaking but something similar to 3:33 since they are monsters, something related to the monsters ig. Also i was expecting the crownless to shout like Ichigo’s hollow form, i mean you can’t expect it to not shout when it looks similar😂
Technical Test and CBT 1 was need a mix. Both intro just menacing. It show how dangerous of high level tacet discord. And I prefer how they do not trust the Rover after meet him/her.
CBT 1:- Has some middle fight cut scene like MC throwing punch, sword and some cool martial art move CBT 2:- They remove many middle fight scene, but at least they keep the One-inch punch...But the fight had good build up, intro cut scene were great, destroying all of them, making look crownless intimidating, MC getting angry CBT 3:- Crownless is no more crownless, he is joke now .They remove all cut scene. I hope in live they combine all
Personally I feel like the CBT 1 test is the best of the three. It genuinely feels like this is a high ranking enemy, explains why it's named "crownless" and has all the characters reacting like they just saw a massive threat nearly kill them all and some stranger absorbs it on their own. Plus it had a ton of style, the black and white cutscene for the bit of lore, the boss speaking and dashing around, the Rover falling to their knees overwhelmed by absorbing something with no idea how or why. It also looks like it might've done better at introducing some of the lore early on. I haven't even heard the term overclocking in game and I've beaten all the current release story. On an unrelated note, the UI in all of them is bland as hell, but I love that the shield bar in the Tech test is a waveform. That's such a neat feature that adds a lot of personality to this game all about WAVES. Not sure why they removed it and went blander with it with each redesign.
same! i read some of my fav characthers story thingies you unlock by the friendship bar or whatever its called and they used the term overclocking like a thousand times and i was so confused because i litereally listened and played the whole main and side quetests and never heard it, same in the yinlin companion quest
I honestly prefer CBT-1 very intimidating scary and brutal love that combination also love its ability to speak makes it more scarier the 3rd one I like it but it feels wrong in do many ways its just there.
Tech test? Not really, only the crownless moveset and maybe the color(although i like the gold black and white more) but cbt1 definitely, and by a long shot too,the scene looks good crownless is super intimidating, like bro can talk kicks everyones ass, and mock mc
I hope for the final version they combine the Tech Test and CBT 1 Crownless. Keep the part where Crownless 1 hit deletes Rover's friends and allow him to speak again because hearing him say "Have you seen my crown?" while he sneaks up on you adds to his menacing energy. CBT 2 Crownless cutscenes went by super quick. If this is the first boss or tutorial boss I hope they bring back what made it cool during Tech Test and CBT1. If they don't want the other characters to be hostile to MC then they can keep that part in. Just make Crownless cool again please.
Man, Crownless in first two tests was brutal, he clearly wanted to kill everyone and actually would have done that if we weren't players. Not to mention that CBT1 had that cool drawn cutscene, but it made you feel like an enemy to the group and I wouldn't want to help anyone who points a gun to my head
CBT 1 is the most realistic tbh, I can't blame anyone for being cautious of me if i had like unusual superpower they didn't understand, plus i'm like a stranger. As the story goes I'm sure they'll understand and develop a bond
How do yall know the CN playerbase doesn't want the cbt1 version? Can anyone provide some sources? I want to make research by myself. Also, I always see people trash on CN community, but I've never been in contact with the CN community, so I dont know if what yall say is true or not.
This might be off topic, but despite of the graphics improvement, system, etc. I would honestly say I was kinda dissapointed in cbt 2 combat system (I might change my mind when someone actually reach higher world level and see some changes in endgame difficulty in overworld). I feel like kuro nerf bosses in wuwa especially in overworld. The finishing move was good but it deals too much damage when the enemy deals soo little damage. Also I hope they remove or at least minimize the stagger effect on bosses. By making the bosses harder doesn't mean that it should be like elden ring or DS3, etc. It's just need to be hard enough to be more challenging especially for the first impression, but still find it fun when do it repetitively. When I try genshin for the first time 3 years ago, I got wrecked by the ruin guards on low AR, it takes me like 3-4 hit for it to kill me. And on wuwa I see the boss grab attack, it's doesn't even take half of your active character HP. Kuro need to bravely increase its difficulty, if they want to actually compete with genshin, they should offer something different with genshin. Especially since they have specialty in making good combat scene. They should improve it like they usually do and don't try to imitate genshin, or else they would gone the same as tower of fantasy (might be a bad comparison, but you know what I mean)
They could've changed the story but kept the crownless cinematic from cbt 1 because this makes the enemies actually feel like a threat and would get new players hooked to the game.
CBT1 just hits different, from the entrance and speaking of Crownless to the skies during Phase 2 and lastly, the absorption of Crownless. He really felt almost numb from absorbing which shows how good it was especially the vision.. but now... it's just your usual isekai harem, quite disappointed with the released version..
Like CBT1 more, but most people don't like the fact the NPC are suspicious of player due to us being mysterious and powerful, and also we the player continue to help the NPC despite all the negative thoughts toward us made many people who read the story think we're slaves or something, so CBT2 is what we got for now. Honestly, I think being suspicious and cautious are usually a more normal approach, especially in a apocalypse setting, and if we can win the trust of other character through time in the story it'll be pretty heart warming, not sure what went wrong in the story, perhaps the NPC were to hostile toward us?
they were apparently treating you poorly the whole time and it was really annoying, and everything was basically fetch quest all that couldve been fixed easily without changing anything about the crownless fight but no. idfk what kuro was thinking :/
@@bakutieinstead now it is still a fetch quest but every single npc treats you as second coming of jesus Christ - they even announce it all over the world that everyone should be nice to the chosen hero lmao
Who the hell is responsible for kuro changing the whole story!? The old one looks so much more fascinating and dark. The new one is just like genshin, sunshine and rainbows
So, let me get this right, they nerfed Crownless from an absolute smoke demon... to just some cool emotionless tutorial boss? Nah, give the one-inch punch badass. It could have made the rematch right before the Dreamless even more awesome.
Damn i wish they kept the old cutscenes because the crownless is just badass he's just literally beating the crap out of everyone and the line "Have you seen my crown" makes the crownless more badass The Crownless is definitely the coolest and the most badass boss in the entire game
I guess they wanted to cut down on the dialogue and cutscenes, but they cut out the more interesting stuff and left in the boring stuff. The test/cbt1 encounter was infinitely more interesting than the entirety of chapter 1, i wish they had stuck to their original vision.
the launch version made crownless like a slime mob they didnt even sweat on the battle CBT1 really is more realistic atleast they got beaten badly making tacet field a threat.
Hmmm so this is what happens when they listen to the community... they scraped a perfectly fine story with an ass one real quick after "some people" complained about it... Yeah no
I love CBT1's version and the tech test's one inch punch and fight scenes. Not gonna lie, CBT2 Crownless cutscenes are so underwhelming. Not because it has bad animations, it's just that, it lack visual story-telling. I don't feel thw danger and tension in CBT2 Crownless and I think they need to make us feel that Tacet Discords ate no joke in this world. CBT2 crownless made me feel like they're not that of a threat. They also removed the fistinct feeling that Crownless is not just your normal high class TD. In tech test and CBT1, I felt like he's deserving of distinction. They portrayed how dangerous TD's are in CBT2 with the Jiyan flashback but to be honest, I would love to "see it for myseof" and not theough a vision. I like the story revision overall, but there need some tweaks like this. The tension is almost gone in the beginning. At least balance it. Comvine the 3 tones I suppose.
Technical Test was so cool is like evolution of PGR then every forward version is a downgrade. what the hell happens in those beta that make everything worse
We wanted the Genshin audience, unironically. Which is odd considering Kuro's work has more parallels to NieR instead of BoTW (which where Genshin is heavily-inspired from)
over accepting feedbacks, to a point where they could easily be stirred by the CN community. Which later worsened by the fact that they had some internal problems, in which that they fired some of the most important people for the game development, that's why the optimization is kinda sh*t since CBT-2 throughout the official release.
@@Risanggita I got ganged up when I criticized Kuro for overspending their budget on marketing the game at Times Square rather than using that budget for the game itself and here we are now.
Which version of Crownless yu like most? :D
should have been a mix of all 3 lols.. the brutality, intensity and darkness of 1 and 2, and the kindness of 3..
CBT1 with all the mid fight scene from tech test and Cbt1
Cbt 2 was awful
CBT1 sin duda
La entrada qué hizo en esa primera versión fué mucho más épica, que hasta le da pelea a nuestros Protagonistas.m
Definitely cbt version 1, version 2 is horrible, the change they made to it, boring and simple its entrance and ending, I liked that boos, they nerfed it too much
Cbt 1 > cbt 2
Kuro: We're re-doing 90% of the story.
Me: YES
Kuro: Including all the cool shit.
Me: Wait, NO!
Monkey paw moment
@@cainbelhyde9010Bro Deepwoken rot is real
Naw bro. They didn't have to redo shit. They had it all down in CBT-1. But then those beta testers had too much of a say in the story
" have you seen my crown " the line is so badass for a boss like him
have you seen my lemons ?
Meanwhile dreamless: have you seen my dream?
Got any... grapes?
Games… on yo phone??
To be honest, the old crownless honestly deserves to be in the late game. He's a menace 💀
Yeah, they should keep his old animation and cutscene, it's ok if they nerf him but lol they also nerf him so bad.
@@igm1571they’re def saving him for later. You’ll see
Ye they should've given him a little more showtime at the end ngl with actual dialogues. In the tutorial part it's fine to keep it simple but he definitely deserved better treatment at least during the last fight lol. Also we don't even have a Crownless hologram c'mon! unless I missed it because I haven't 100% the exploration.
They should say something like "Crownless (Complete.)" That would be such a twist that we were just fighting incomplete forms. 😂
@@kairi4640Who know, maybe when he find his crown he'll be the last boss 😂
After seeing the reddit thread on this change, I have never so pissed off at a community. The action, immediate threat of crownless, and even his speaking role are LEAGUES better than our final product. I refuse to believe CN really complained about the 1st 2 and I genuinely cant imagine why they didnt like it.
Self insert wanna bes want to be OP and simped on ig lmao
@@dodgerpatrol anyone who malds because a fictional character doesnt beg to give them a BJ is bound to have below average intelligence lets be real. whats frustrating is kuro actually listening to these "fans"
In fact, Chinese players also liked the first version of the Boss, but I don't know why Kuro changed it.
Honestly I prefer how calm and collected Rover is in the current version, so seeing her immediately lose it in the older versions is kinda startling. I also don’t think the speaking dialogue of the Crownless adds anything here, just seems “cool”. The later reveals of hearing tacet discords speak are more impactful without this here.
Genuinely I think it’s a matter of which you run into first, because while I think it’s cool to be distrusted at the start I don’t like other aspects of the old tests story. I’m a much bigger fan of the current version.
CN didn't complain about Crownless, they complained because every character was being asshole (Chixia, Baizhu, Sanhua, furry Lingyang)...
To be honest, I liked the 1st Test versions Crownless. His intimidating, omnipitent speech gave me the chills. Not to mention, his raw, brutal cutscenes were a sight to behold.
If they Mix the CB2 with the version, then it could be a W intro. 👏
I mean whatever they choose to go with I believe the players will be happy.
A similar idea can be used for future bosses, but yeah I agree the first crownless is the king here.
Noice, noice 👍@@tzoied
@@ben-taobeneton3945Rhin thé part that got CN players riled up is Chixia pointing the gun and being the most hostile. Make her weary but not too hostile
But for the future its not good giving tutorial boss so much things. If they keep the boss like that player would have too much expectation for upcoming bosses... And tend to be dissapointed. The released ver is fine...
@@ellsomach not really though. Especially if it's a lore important boss. Just make "story bosses" on par. Side bosses and optional world bosses do not need to be as cool as main ones
CBT2 definitely more polish and it visually looks better but liked the introduction of CBT1 it looked more intimidating.
Let’s put feedback for Kuro on how to improve this entrance of tutorial
Now they just have to mix the two together
Or can devs made Old Crownless as an easter egg boss?
"Have you seen my crown?" goosebumps, this explains why he's named Crownless in the first place
Hopefully, we'd get Bosses with a Cutscene like this in Version 1.1 or 1.2
My biggest problem with WuWa is that it doesnt feel tense. Like, at all.
I dont know all that they changed from CBT1, but the one thing that is a clear 100% downgrade is Crownless. They could have changed everything else and kept the Crownless as it was and that would have added the tension that WuWa is severely lacking.
Here on release the Crownless is just some random enemy we beat. He makes everyones head hurt and then we beat him, are you kidding me? The CBT1 version was in another reality entirely that's how much better it is!
i mean we cannot blame kuro, instead, blame CN playerbase for hating it, Kuro had to spend like 2 years to make the story but CN community seem did not like the idea that the mc are being overwhelming at the start and yangyang in the near death situation and so kuro have only 9 months to rework ALL the story that they working on for more than 2 years, honestly, it is quite dumb reason from the CN playerbase.
@@jasonphan3669 No like, they could have kept the CBT1 Crownless intro, and then had the Magistrate call us while we are running to the city with Yangyang, and then they could cure her there.
If anything, showing how strong Crownless is would have just made us look even stronger.
In release we just block an attack and give him a stare. It makes us seem so much weaker.
If the CN playerbase wanted all the girls to simp for us (since thats like, the biggest change from CBT1) then being this super strong badass that beat this super strong unknown Tacit Discord would've done that.
@@jasonphan3669 Where does the claim of it was solely the CN playerbase come from?
@@jasonphan3669ikr? We're supposed to be in the middle of the next Lament arriving which was world destructive. Now there's not much urgency, especially after you start leveling your characters etc.
It honestly felt like a cheap attempt to make it harder, when they level capped us fighting that female crownless thing with a restricted team. That was lame.
I mean it'll be fine, Genshin's story was shit and lacking until Dain was introduced
Yeah CBT 1 Crownless cutscene was the best. They made him look powerful and intimidating not mention kick everyone's ass in the cutscene.
Cbt 2 Crownless has been nerfed badly 😢
We must protest
So many skill issue they had to nerf it lmao
@@dariusmht Yeah but it's fine after Seeing the Holograms boss fights. That shit is 🔥🔥🔥🔥. But I do prefer the old cutscene because Crownless has more impact.
@@dariusmhtTheyre talking about the cutscene. Cutscene was nerfed in a way
@@isaiah5519 I know the new cutscenes make the mc looks too overpowered lmao
CBT 1 Crownless actually hurt one of your soon to be friends and is eager to fight. Release Crownless just bumped into you accidentally and was like "sorry bro" and stands there.
Old crownless was way cooler, he talked too
We NEED this guy back, this new form felt like such a waste
I feel bad for the guy, after three betas he has not found his crown yet.😢
It is possible that he doesn't talk here because whatever voice lines they had for him before made no sense for the new, revamped story.
2:35 made technical Crownless way more superior than the other 2
I mean isn't voicelines deactivated for CBT2 ?
After this game was released, it turned out that using CBT 2 Lore story was the worst thing 💀
Because there is not post-apocalyptic feel, the residents' interactions with the MC are too peaceful. The lore story of CBT 1 is quite gripping, and the characters are overwhelmed
Even after exploring this game (Official Release), there is no gripping feel of Post-Apocalypse
This is not typical of Kurogames, which makes dark stories like PGR 😔
You're real for that ✊😔
Fr i feel it😢
Whyyyyy kurooo whyy
True the lore had so much potential and they choose the most boring path
Blame the CN who were complaining that characters were not really friendly towards them
The fact CBT1 was the best of them all
It feels like the CBT1 was more polished, cool, and clear to understand. + the black and white animation when Rover absorbed the boss to know more about the lore was really nice...
CBT1 probably best especially the black out when he takes out his spear has longer duration compare to CBT2 (which just in an instant), the black out is what makes everything about him feel so impactful as first impression to tell people what kind of game WW is, Kuro absolutely need to keep this part and make him live long enough for players to enjoy his full moveset+bgm at first try. Crownless is a very important first impression to sell the game that Kuro need to give him more credits.
Ese apagado cuándo saca su arma estaba realmente increíble
No entiendo porqué quitaron esa parte..
Ojalá y la vuelvan a poner
he's not even talking like mannn
THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING LIKE DUDE. FIRST IMPRESSION MATTERS
though i like that they brought back the little jumpscare in his first appearance but that's just about it. They even rid him his cape and removed that one inch punch cutscene, even his powerful aura on that impact frame scene, just his overall aggressiveness(dude even almost killed yangyang) is absent in cbt2 imo
edit: okay im stupidly blind his cape is actually still there lmao, but my main point still stands
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Such shame getting rid of this beautiful 2d cut scene about rover backstory
Agreed, it was pretty cool and made you wonder who is the Rover and what happened. And the art style was pretty sick!
@@Dexyne Yeah, but at the same time it kinda reveals too much Rover's backstory. In the BEGINNING of the game!
@@BulletSponge71436 I don't think it does, from what I remember they were like 2 or 3 of this cut-scenes in the CBT and it was like 5 to 10 seconds max of length with no dialogues (kind of random/fights only too), so you didn't really learn anything really. To me it gives me curiosity of knowing what and when did it happened and who we are as the Rover more than anything. Plus the beginning of the game is where you want your player to start becoming invested in your game, and the story is a part of it for many.
Why did they change the story here though, the CBT1 scene was better, starting from this unknown monster (the voice definitely adds to its presence), them getting their asses kicked, someone getting hurt and then MC has an awakening due to that, the girls' suspicion of him also make sense, that's an emotional storyline! But the CBT2 cutscene is so happy go lucky, there is no tension, no excitement of having beaten an enemy, and they just accept the MC just like that. Idk... I thought the decision to revamp 90% of the plot is good but not too sure now
if im not wrong the new story got positive feedbacks from cn players
Guess they dont like being hate by girls 🤣
Wait so they really change chixia personality where she got suspicious of rover!!?😢 nah tht the best part of the story
Really? But this make rover stand out that he is stronger than them and special@@lucianofyro3445
And that also makes no sense either. Like, how did you just find someone who was stranded in the middle of nowhere, has amnesia, has 'defective' tech, but strong enough to beat elite enemy that kick your companions' azz, and absorb said enemy to their body to be totally unsuspicious?
I get that Yangyang looks like someone who can see the inner thought from the get go (otherwise she wouldn't give you lap pillow, lol)
Chixia is most 'normal' here, in technical test, she's at least questioning you, CBT 1 is my favorite cuz she's wary of you (especially after absorbing crownless), in CBT 2 she became happy go lucky from get go which I find so mainstream n make no sense at all.
Baizhi is baizhi, generally observing people from distance, tho in CBT 2 it's more emphasized.
There is a reason for that, if you are curious, read the story when they meet "Scar".
CBT 1 is realistically approached, the MC is technically an "alien", and given this game post-apocalyptic world setting that just cherry on top. To bad they goes with CBT 2 on the final release, what happened to the first one?
Because CBT 1 received a lot of criticism from CN players. Finally Kurogames complied to change it
@@emifanz430 damn, they really can't handle the waifu hating them on beginning huh lol
@@helmiboboy Which is dumb because the best relantionships I have seen are from characters that normally don't get along at the beggining or have opposite personalities. The best charas in a harem are also those who were your enemy, antagonist or simply can disagree with your mc.
@@MrOverTyrant agreed
Plus, having them hostile towards you for someone who capable to absorb Tacets in a apocalypse world..
They legitimately seeing you as potential threat to everyone for having this alien like power
@@MrOverTyrantat this point I’m just hoping that kuro would keep up with their promise that the story gets more serious and gritty as it goes, just like PGR
Cbt1 was peak idk why ppl didn’t like it 😭
Cus they just want a friendly characters idk why tho its just like they want other copy of genshin
Because self inserters are sensitive bunch
blame cn community this is what they wanted and they got it
Chinese community said it too brutal
Cognitive behavioral therapy my beloved
I feel like I missed so much from the CBT because DAMN DUDE, THE ANIMATION, THE EFFECTS, EVERYTHING. It was P E A K C I N E M A...
I guess listening to the community a lot doesn't make you all glorious huh? Their ideas are being phased with every time a CN player criticizes something. I really wish they didn't change too much about the boss fight, cuz changing Chixia's personality towards Rover would've been enough. They could've kept the rest of the cutscene.
Right?, or heck they couldve just put the crownless intro of cbt2(the in your face one), then let crownless put chixia and baizha out of comission( since in original, yangyang and rover did fought crownless together), and just let yangyang fight with rover, ohhh and keep his voice too, it would have been more menacing if he does, then keep the rest
Tech test was by far the best combat version, but I also wanted him to hit our teammates like in cbt 1 and keep his face behind the protagonist like in cbt 2
Yah there was a lot more cutscenes in the tech test, but the boss was a lot more intimidating as well as just overall cooler in cbt1 but also the fight was overall cleaner in cbt2
If you take the best elements of all of them then you'd have the perfect intro boss fight
A mix of 3 tbh, technical test fight scenes, CBT 1 ending scene and CBT 2 capturing the Crownless scene. Also, a mixture of tech test and CBT 1 and little bit of CBT 2 Crownless designs
I agree, but game directors are brainless and CN depressed whales wanted to feel cool and loved being the MC
@@arkvsi8142not the game director's fault, CN server is usually the one who gives the biggest revenue for gacha games.
Also the radical activities CN players does, all because they hate something in the game(plenty of accidents), Kuro is just a small company yet, not big enough to survive against the radical and crazy actions dumbass CN players will do.
@@arkvsi8142 i dont think they are brainless
A mix of 3
CBT2 design
CBT1 ending
Tech boss cutscene
The CBT1 ending made sense. Like if you were with your friends and this new guy somehow absorbed the thing that almost got your friend killed. You would most likely keep distance and see if said person is dangerous or not
Also Crownless lost his 1 inch punch in CBT2 and also that black effect of phase 2
Tech Crownless was brutal and it would fit in the world setting since those places was suppose to be dangerous after all
And the CBT1 ending also add alot of character to YangYang right off the start. You get to see this girl who put others ahead of herself and why she get along with 2 of her friend
yeah but they scrapped literally everything but the ending.
And everything else makes this introduction to not just the combat, but the world and story as a whole so important.
Way more shoulda been kept and or recycled, very little of it was. Its a big shame imo.
BRING OLD CROWNLESS BACK
AAAAAAAA
The longer cutscenes, fights in cutscenes. Jeez. This is amazing so far.
In this particular moment. I think CBT 1 is over-all better. I may like the introduction of the Boss in CBT 2 a little more (Of how he literally appears in your face in a second). But everything else from CBT 1 just works.
Tech test really makes you realize how much work goes into this stuff.
Bro tech test crownless was so badass. They made cbt 2 crownless just seem like a rogue mob. They have to bring back how cool he was
What they should do is include CBT 1 cutscene intro of Crownless beating the crap out of Chixia and Baizhi leaving Yangyang and Rover for the battle, cbt 2 of Rover blocking Cronwless and tech test of Cronwless delivering the final blow because it will show no matter how much tired he is he still keep going and cbt 1 absorption of crownless of Rover with a bit of Chixia and Baizhi being shocked by Rover ability
Yea, and make him faster in gameplay too, he has more moveset but he lacks speed. That should tell the players that this is a hard opponent that we cannot defeat easily, and of course makes him more intimidating
The answer is simple: we need old tech test Crownless x Cbt 1 Crownless x Cbt 2 Crownless = baddass introduction, badass move sets, high difficulty, and goated VFX.
So basically combined everything, or why not just have all those three Crownless in one introduction for you to fight⚔️🔥
cbt1 WuWa looks like the game Kuro made. Dark, mysterious, serious and brutal. I can't really understand why final story is such "family-friendly" and toothless
I like his 1-inch punch but unfortunately they removed it
True the 1- inch punch looks cool
Same!
The scene where you come face to face with Crownless TT (I really like the scene where he tries to speak and touch your face and Rover gets that "what the hell is that?!?"
The scene where he destroys his CBT1 team (Showing like a Badass Crownless and raising the tension before the fight, making you want to overcome him, showing that there are worthy challenges in the world out there waiting for you)
The final scene is Rover absorbing Crownless CBT2 (Showing that Rover has no real idea of his power and that he could do that).
They should had keep the CBT1 animation for the crownless but keep the difficulty for the cbt 2. At least the CBT 1 made him look scary and intimidating and give a HUGE impression on how the world is in WW. I hope after the CBT2 they would change the animation back to CBT 1.
I wish they include those Tec test mid combat quick events into CBT2 too
This is what Chinese players want😢
Chinese players are weird
All I could said is😢
R.I.P OG Crownless🌹🌹🌹 this is one boss that makes me feel sad
I like the Cbt 1, it looks really cool.
Tech Test and CBT1 were very good, WuWa had identity and personality, it was a unique and not generic.
I liked the colors more in the Tech Test but the Crownless' performance in CBT1 was much better, besides it had a voice and that memory was very good.
But since the people of CN are all a bunch of crybaby, they decided to transform what was a masterpiece into something generic and boring.
CBT2 = Typical anime OP isekai MC who is always cool and can do anything...........
There is a huge downgrade of this boss ngl
In technical test we see him trading punch with the mc
In cbt 1 he just casually wipes out the party without much effort
And there is the cbt 2 one...
My exact sentiment. The more I see him in CBT2, the more I see him as punching bag more than anything, he has no impact compared to Tech Test and CBT1.
They should mix the 3 of them, design wise CBT2, keep the jump scare at the start + the voice lines, put back the cut-scenes of him beating some members as it feels imposing and threatening (and seeing him "teleporting" is pretty cool), keep the glare of Rover at the start of CBT2 before the fight starts, use the longer black and white transition of CBT1 (longer), and some of the cut-scenes from Tech Test of them exchanging blows showing an equal footing before getting beaten by Rover, then finish with ending from CBT2 I guess (I do prefer the "non happy" ending on my end but I'm fine with this one too). And maybe make him a little more harder in the fight cause it conclude pretty fast for what I've seen (no need for him to be a pain for the story, just enough that he feels threatening a bit and not die in less than a minute).
@@DexyneNope the difficulty of the fight is fine, remember that you're not the only target audience, they want everyone to play this game and not to be burned out easily just because of a tutorial.
@@slowedmusic7554I'm not saying it need to be Tech Test/CBT 1 level but at least have him not getting stun lock by basic attacks when non-stop attacked. That doesn't make it a fight anymore, just him being a punching bag, and there's nothing "threatening" about it. He's just a common mob like any others at that point, at least in phase 1. But it's CBT so maybe it was just a bug. Again I don't mind the difficulty level itself (even though he does die pretty fast with the "execution skill" being now a thing), but more what the boss "inspired". In previous tests he was imposing itself and you remembered him for that, now most would probably forget about it pretty fast, which is fine I guess depending on the new story and his role/importance. Also there seems to be some non-"hardcore" players that do see it as (too) easy but maybe they had expectations prior to fighting him from talks from other players or the previous tests.
@@Dexyne u can literally stand afk for 5 minutes and he wouldnt be able to kill you in that time rn
@@meraldwaves During phase 1 I think he doesn't attack first, just some taunt, so until you do he'll probably just watch you. I didn't test that much though, but I believe they may have change a little bit his stats but not that much, the rest is pretty much the same with minor changes compared to CBT2 as far as I've seen. And I think they may have removed the finisher move during phase 1, I think there was one?
ngl tech test crownless got the crown for me
crownless used to be voiced?!?!?
tech test and cbt 1 look so peak, what the hell happened in official launch????
Blame the CN community, they said it was too brutal for a character to be on the brink of death early on in the game. Kuro isn't really like this since one their game's called PGR has quite a dark story, though I don't see anybody complain about that, which really doesn't make any sense-
Feel bad for Kuro. They are good devs
Man CBT-1 Beat Down *HAD* to stay, god that would've been so interesting...
They really nerfed everything even remotely serious about this game hub
Yeah 😂😂
The story had potential but they choose the most boring approach lol
Idk I feel like the way things unfolded in cbt1 was better
the doubt they had in you and seeing you as a threat
later turning into an even deeper friendship is rather nice
Is it just me who like CBT 1 story?
The fight feel real and everyone get to fight not stand there watching.
Man, seeing what they couldve went with is heartbreaking. The CBT1 sequence was infinitely more interesting and even emotionally gripping. It made me think "Holy shit, is someone gonna actually die?"
Okay prob Kuro never gonna see this but i gonna said this anyways , my honest thought that none of the 3 really my fav but a good mix of three and it would be . I gonna points out some good , bad and what should be keep in the final release
Tech test :
- Great introduction how Yang yang skills , abilities works without playing her yet .
- Red line Crownless is look way to cool to be completely replace by purple Crownless, at least use this as his 2nd phase form to switching between hand combat to weapon modes .
- Cool throwing hand cutscene
CBT 1 :
- Great Team combat cinematic , showcase how big of a threat Crownless is
- Yang Yang heavily injured and Baizhi , Chixia not fully trust Rover is more understandable and personally i found it fitting WuWave story theme than CBT 2 , this CBT cinametic sequence is by far the most impressive in my opinion
CBT 2 :
- Im sorry but rather than model updates this version is by far the weakest , feel like its was too rushed and Crownless feel just like a normal elite mob , suddenly became a less interested boss.
- No big consequence in story after you beat Crownless rather than people just adore your power without any doubt you have good intention or not
- The good thing prob models updates, extra QTE on the fights , cool transition camera
CBT1 was amazing ... we owe it to CN community for the final product, appearently they didn't like rover getting his/her ass handed to them and the fact that the other characters were distrustful of him/her so they re-wrote the whole damn thing. such a shame tbh.
Ctb1 is peak
The Crownless aside, the CBT 1 characters reaction to MC absorbing it were better than the CBT 2 version. Also, sad that they remove The Crownless voicelines
have you seen my crown? 💀 man this line is so badass
the only thing i love first one is they put lot cutscene during middle fight which make it more epic
Tech Test Crownless looked like a boss character designed from PSO2's Episode 6 cast.
Shame the CBT1 story design got scrapped (unfortunately because of Chinese focus groups not liking it), otherwise it would actually have more momentum (and honestly would get a lot more people hooked with the premise) than the characters being overly-chummy with the protag on release.
The fight in the first test really show Crownless personality and overall probably the best one by showcase how much struggle Rover was against Crownless like the win was really earn. The Cb1 show how intimidated he is and how strong he is by overwhelmed others so easily. Cb2 cut a ton of things from the previous tests tho.
So here how I think it could be
Start of the fight, cb1
The fight itself, first test.
Crownless absorb cb2.
they should keep the clash between the rover and crownless 8:30 from Cbt 2. And keep the scene where the crownless beats everyone’s ass 3:44 from Cbt 1. I think if they mix this together it’ll be quite nice since the crownless in Cbt 2 looks like it got nerfed
Edit:
i think they should make bosses like the crownless talk when it makes an entrance just like cbt1, not full on speaking but something similar to 3:33 since they are monsters, something related to the monsters ig.
Also i was expecting the crownless to shout like Ichigo’s hollow form, i mean you can’t expect it to not shout when it looks similar😂
bro was Igris in the beginning
CBT 1 crownless is the best cutscene and story wise
"This is feeling rather dull"
Holy sht that line is hard
Technical Test and CBT 1 was need a mix. Both intro just menacing. It show how dangerous of high level tacet discord.
And I prefer how they do not trust the Rover after meet him/her.
CBT 1:- Has some middle fight cut scene like MC throwing punch, sword and some cool martial art move
CBT 2:- They remove many middle fight scene, but at least they keep the One-inch punch...But the fight had good build up, intro cut scene were great, destroying all of them, making look crownless intimidating, MC getting angry
CBT 3:- Crownless is no more crownless, he is joke now .They remove all cut scene. I hope in live they combine all
Personally I feel like the CBT 1 test is the best of the three. It genuinely feels like this is a high ranking enemy, explains why it's named "crownless" and has all the characters reacting like they just saw a massive threat nearly kill them all and some stranger absorbs it on their own. Plus it had a ton of style, the black and white cutscene for the bit of lore, the boss speaking and dashing around, the Rover falling to their knees overwhelmed by absorbing something with no idea how or why.
It also looks like it might've done better at introducing some of the lore early on. I haven't even heard the term overclocking in game and I've beaten all the current release story.
On an unrelated note, the UI in all of them is bland as hell, but I love that the shield bar in the Tech test is a waveform. That's such a neat feature that adds a lot of personality to this game all about WAVES. Not sure why they removed it and went blander with it with each redesign.
same! i read some of my fav characthers story thingies you unlock by the friendship bar or whatever its called and they used the term overclocking like a thousand times and i was so confused because i litereally listened and played the whole main and side quetests and never heard it, same in the yinlin companion quest
1:32 YO THE SOUND EFFECTS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 ITS TOO COOL
1:33 damn that one inch punch
tech test + cbt 1 he was such a bad ass. and what we got is a watered down version the did him wrong
CBT1 Crownless was so cool we were so robbed😭😭
cbt1 was the best, but design wise the tech test one clears
I honestly prefer CBT-1 very intimidating scary and brutal love that combination also love its ability to speak makes it more scarier the 3rd one I like it but it feels wrong in do many ways its just there.
Bro please tell them in feedback to bring old crownless plzzz 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
What we could've gotten.
Bet some vocal players on a certain region don't want their potential waifu get beaten up.
I can't believe I'm saying this... but the game looks better in Technical Test and CBT1
Tech test? Not really, only the crownless moveset and maybe the color(although i like the gold black and white more) but cbt1 definitely, and by a long shot too,the scene looks good crownless is super intimidating, like bro can talk kicks everyones ass, and mock mc
I hope for the final version they combine the Tech Test and CBT 1 Crownless. Keep the part where Crownless 1 hit deletes Rover's friends and allow him to speak again because hearing him say "Have you seen my crown?" while he sneaks up on you adds to his menacing energy. CBT 2 Crownless cutscenes went by super quick. If this is the first boss or tutorial boss I hope they bring back what made it cool during Tech Test and CBT1. If they don't want the other characters to be hostile to MC then they can keep that part in. Just make Crownless cool again please.
Man, Crownless in first two tests was brutal, he clearly wanted to kill everyone and actually would have done that if we weren't players. Not to mention that CBT1 had that cool drawn cutscene, but it made you feel like an enemy to the group and I wouldn't want to help anyone who points a gun to my head
CBT 1 is the most realistic tbh, I can't blame anyone for being cautious of me if i had like unusual superpower they didn't understand, plus i'm like a stranger. As the story goes I'm sure they'll understand and develop a bond
bro is the embodiment of your dad in his prime energy
I expected him to get better each beta but 💀
How do yall know the CN playerbase doesn't want the cbt1 version? Can anyone provide some sources? I want to make research by myself.
Also, I always see people trash on CN community, but I've never been in contact with the CN community, so I dont know if what yall say is true or not.
This might be off topic, but despite of the graphics improvement, system, etc. I would honestly say I was kinda dissapointed in cbt 2 combat system (I might change my mind when someone actually reach higher world level and see some changes in endgame difficulty in overworld).
I feel like kuro nerf bosses in wuwa especially in overworld. The finishing move was good but it deals too much damage when the enemy deals soo little damage. Also I hope they remove or at least minimize the stagger effect on bosses.
By making the bosses harder doesn't mean that it should be like elden ring or DS3, etc. It's just need to be hard enough to be more challenging especially for the first impression, but still find it fun when do it repetitively. When I try genshin for the first time 3 years ago, I got wrecked by the ruin guards on low AR, it takes me like 3-4 hit for it to kill me. And on wuwa I see the boss grab attack, it's doesn't even take half of your active character HP.
Kuro need to bravely increase its difficulty, if they want to actually compete with genshin, they should offer something different with genshin. Especially since they have specialty in making good combat scene. They should improve it like they usually do and don't try to imitate genshin, or else they would gone the same as tower of fantasy (might be a bad comparison, but you know what I mean)
They make it easier so it accessible for all player (casual and hardcore), but dw they also add higher diff for hardcore player
Players atm are still low-leveled, we will judge later when they're near or at the endgame itself
They get new movesets when you increase your world level. Watch Rex's stream.
They should keep the finishing move or execution mobe I would say. It's pleasant to see
Also it could be distinct from other game
@@ShinHakumen exactly, current players' world level isn't that high yet
They could've changed the story but kept the crownless cinematic from cbt 1 because this makes the enemies actually feel like a threat and would get new players hooked to the game.
Awww, the dialogue *have you seen my crown* was quiet scary. It felt like straight out of a horror movie!
Look how they massacred my boy
CBT1 just hits different, from the entrance and speaking of Crownless to the skies during Phase 2 and lastly, the absorption of Crownless. He really felt almost numb from absorbing which shows how good it was especially the vision.. but now... it's just your usual isekai harem, quite disappointed with the released version..
Like CBT1 more, but most people don't like the fact the NPC are suspicious of player due to us being mysterious and powerful, and also we the player continue to help the NPC despite all the negative thoughts toward us made many people who read the story think we're slaves or something, so CBT2 is what we got for now.
Honestly, I think being suspicious and cautious are usually a more normal approach, especially in a apocalypse setting, and if we can win the trust of other character through time in the story it'll be pretty heart warming, not sure what went wrong in the story, perhaps the NPC were to hostile toward us?
they were apparently treating you poorly the whole time and it was really annoying, and everything was basically fetch quest
all that couldve been fixed easily without changing anything about the crownless fight but no. idfk what kuro was thinking :/
@@bakutieinstead now it is still a fetch quest but every single npc treats you as second coming of jesus Christ - they even announce it all over the world that everyone should be nice to the chosen hero lmao
I want Kuro to basically merge some of the cutscenes from all CBT and at the same time will not hinder the story and plot
Who the hell is responsible for kuro changing the whole story!?
The old one looks so much more fascinating and dark.
The new one is just like genshin, sunshine and rainbows
HOLY!! cbt1 crownless is so intimidating and so fkin badass
So, let me get this right, they nerfed Crownless from an absolute smoke demon... to just some cool emotionless tutorial boss? Nah, give the one-inch punch badass. It could have made the rematch right before the Dreamless even more awesome.
Damn i wish they kept the old cutscenes because the crownless is just badass he's just literally beating the crap out of everyone and the line "Have you seen my crown" makes the crownless more badass The Crownless is definitely the coolest and the most badass boss in the entire game
I guess they wanted to cut down on the dialogue and cutscenes, but they cut out the more interesting stuff and left in the boring stuff. The test/cbt1 encounter was infinitely more interesting than the entirety of chapter 1, i wish they had stuck to their original vision.
the launch version made crownless like a slime mob they didnt even sweat on the battle CBT1 really is more realistic atleast they got beaten badly making tacet field a threat.
CBT 1 Crownless scence is so good why they change this .
Damn...the fight cutscenes in 1st test version were way cooler!
Hmmm so this is what happens when they listen to the community... they scraped a perfectly fine story with an ass one real quick after "some people" complained about it... Yeah no
Tech test: cutscenes looks cool
Cbt 1: interesting approach and cool cutscenes
Cbt 2: removed all cool scenes and polished the cutscenes
The CBT1 cutscene is the best. Lame change
I WISH THEY KEPT THE CUTSCENE ON ACTUAL RELEASE BRO
I love CBT1's version and the tech test's one inch punch and fight scenes. Not gonna lie, CBT2 Crownless cutscenes are so underwhelming. Not because it has bad animations, it's just that, it lack visual story-telling. I don't feel thw danger and tension in CBT2 Crownless and I think they need to make us feel that Tacet Discords ate no joke in this world. CBT2 crownless made me feel like they're not that of a threat. They also removed the fistinct feeling that Crownless is not just your normal high class TD. In tech test and CBT1, I felt like he's deserving of distinction.
They portrayed how dangerous TD's are in CBT2 with the Jiyan flashback but to be honest, I would love to "see it for myseof" and not theough a vision.
I like the story revision overall, but there need some tweaks like this. The tension is almost gone in the beginning. At least balance it. Comvine the 3 tones I suppose.
They changed from "Don't move or I shoot" to "Mr. Rover, you are so awesome."
Its so dumb man
Visual and art from CBT2 combined with Story and animations from CBT1 would be soo goated for this introduction part
4:53 NAW THIS MAN COLD ASF LMFAOO
Technical Test was so cool is like evolution of PGR then every forward version is a downgrade.
what the hell happens in those beta that make everything worse
China, China happened
We wanted the Genshin audience, unironically.
Which is odd considering Kuro's work has more parallels to NieR instead of BoTW (which where Genshin is heavily-inspired from)
over accepting feedbacks, to a point where they could easily be stirred by the CN community. Which later worsened by the fact that they had some internal problems, in which that they fired some of the most important people for the game development, that's why the optimization is kinda sh*t since CBT-2 throughout the official release.
@@Risanggita I got ganged up when I criticized Kuro for overspending their budget on marketing the game at Times Square rather than using that budget for the game itself and here we are now.
CBT1 CLEARS BY FAR