David Ray Griffin - An Introduction to Process Theology

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    David Ray Griffin: "An Introduction to Process Theology"

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  • @raiseyourvibration1411
    @raiseyourvibration1411 3 года назад +6

    THANK YOU!! This idea of two ultimate realities is crucial to understanding the problems in religion today. Thanks so much to David Griffin for pointing out that it's a bad assumption that there is only one reality. What mystics say about ultimate reality, according to those who buy into the false dilemma, MUST jibe with what Christians/Jews/Muslims say about ultimate reality. So, unfortunately, mystics have to dumb-down their versions, and/or religionists have to stretch their versions, and neither side is satisfied with the outcome. But we must be more flexible in our thinking. Process Theology does away with this false dilemma in saying that both mysticism and religion are actually talking about the same, complex, reality.
    Aloha!

    • @maseca2397
      @maseca2397 2 года назад +1

      Wow. I thought Jesus said he was the only way and the only truth and the only way to get to God. Maybe he lied right?

    • @raiseyourvibration1411
      @raiseyourvibration1411 2 года назад

      @@maseca2397 In the Christian context he certainly is the only way to God.

  • @ElearningDigest
    @ElearningDigest 7 лет назад +17

    I always regret reading the comments on these informative videos. 99% of the comments are worthless and clueless.

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno 5 лет назад +7

      Including yours .

  • @Mike-dc3fp
    @Mike-dc3fp 7 лет назад +3

    I would like a more detailed description or definition of, "divine persuasion" and how that looks and might effect living matter. Thank you

    • @CANNIBoy
      @CANNIBoy 7 лет назад +1

      I'm green to the context in which it's being used as I am yet to sit down and experience this video, but off the cuff I would define "Divine Persuasion" as:
      Being of relevance to the observed current, future and past natural-state of any article observed, also being of relevance to the current, future and past natural-state of all (as yet) unobserved articles.
      To understand how it might look and effect "matter" of all types, simply look around you. It's influence is all-encompassing, its the very nature of all "things", presently, previously and into the future, up to and including oneself.
      This is not to be mistaken as proof of purpose or meaning in all things, only ones death can answer that quandary, the universe could have been all a mistake, with no meaning or purpose. It seems to me a 50/50 shot.
      Now I shall experience the video and see how wildly off the mark I have just been haha 😂

    • @robinhoodstfrancis
      @robinhoodstfrancis 4 года назад +1

      As an empirical Unitariian Universalist Christian theist, I observe that the scientific view of the Universe does go far in revealing the lawful behavior of things as phenomena and "occasions." Free will has emerged out of the created physical Universe, and involves our human Christian choosing, with visions serving persuasively, along with cause and effect. The OT has to be assessed and reinterpreted in some points, although Job 33 already shows the same consciousness, for example.

  • @TheDavddd
    @TheDavddd 3 года назад +5

    Whitehead's God makes experiential sense. The primordial nature of God which contains all possibilities becomes the consequent nature of God as becoming becomes. What I particularly hate in this theology is that there is no metaphysical cheating. God is helpless and can't really control becoming. Moreover becoming has its own rules for becoming and God can't cheat the metaphysics of it. Why? In this theology I even feel bad for God, and it's scary to think it's the theology making the most experiential sense.

    • @noircc
      @noircc 2 года назад

      But this makes it understandable If you think of ausschwitz..

  • @davidaskme4358
    @davidaskme4358 2 года назад +2

    Also know these ppl are always three steps ahead of us at all times,if we could unite the great minds and hold hands to firm a line and make them trip up and only be two steps ahead, we can continue to trip them up until they look up one day and it's US the people who deserve and deserve the truth are there standing above them saying NO MOREEEE. TRUTH IS SACRED AND WILL NOT ALLOW YOU JUST BECAUSE WE GIVE YOU THE POWER TO Lead US ALLLLLL, THAT YOU WILL NOT KEAD WITH LIES AND DECIEVE US. HAS BEEN HAPPENING WAY TOO LONG. BEEN BULLIES. CARRIED OUT SOME OF THE WORST CRIMES AGAIST HUMANITY AND NEVER ANSWER FOR IT. YOUR TIME WILL CONE BC YOU CANNOT ESCAPE YOUR PAST OR RUN FROM THE TRUTH

  • @amydavies9650
    @amydavies9650 4 года назад +5

    It’s times like this I wish I hadn’t decided to pursue Philosophy so far in my life 😂

  • @adamsyed5535
    @adamsyed5535 7 месяцев назад

    You have to change the search filter to "view count" if you want to be able to find DRG's 9/11 lectures.

  • @Magnuslanglete92
    @Magnuslanglete92 Год назад +1

    Rest in peace♥️

  • @roquefortfiles
    @roquefortfiles Год назад

    David X ray Griffin.. these people are more than a little out there

    • @TheRooster1988
      @TheRooster1988 8 месяцев назад

      What is out there for you to say that to? Here I wrote a book. TheRoosterprophet.blogspot.com, read it. See how far out there you are for writing that.

  • @davidaskme4358
    @davidaskme4358 2 года назад +1

    Say it myself all the time, TRUTH, such a string meaningful word. Must stand in TRUTH, facts to support TRUTH, lies get EXPISED by TRUTH. live your message. Love what you stand for. My grandfather was roommates at Boston university with a man called Dr.MLK. Sound just like him and a lot of my intellugence I believe have been passed down by my gene pool,blessed. I do find funny and ironic was when I searched you on RUclips there was a man firm NC that was awarded contract to clean up debris at 9/11. Can't make this stuff up. That has always been problem for me about issues like this and a lot of other so called "CONSPIRACY THEORY". We might know or think we know, might have evidence. What can lil me do or say to make a difference? Who would listen to me? What would knowing all this knowledge change what is important in my life? I can't make people believe or follow me. Can't pay my bills. Can't do anything with this knowledge except get angry and disgusted by what the same ppl I'm supposed to relay on as leaders are just as evil and criminal as the same ppl they swore to protect us from and keep people like them from causing death and mayhem? It's people like you that arm us with the TRUTH and keeps my mind open to not accept what I'm being TOLD and seek proof and knowledge of whoever it is passing their EXPERTISE if whatever matter it is they are trying to spread for the masses to believe.

    • @TheRooster1988
      @TheRooster1988 8 месяцев назад

      Dude I am more broke than you are. Though my relatives go in the area of Dr. Seuss type of thing for my relations and bloodline. Read my book at theRoosterProphet.blogspot.com, see how you like it.

  • @geoffwitt4227
    @geoffwitt4227 Год назад

    When was this filmed?

  • @robinhoodstfrancis
    @robinhoodstfrancis 4 года назад +5

    Identifying PT as a school that goes with "Order out of Chaos" and anti-ex nihilo based on Quantum Physics strikes me off-hand as Scientism. Science-friendly attitudes still need to remain clear that Science´s revealed truths are firmly philosophical in nature, no matter how fancy the instrumentation. Thus, "I am that I am" to Moses illuminates God and differentiates God from the physical Universe. Getting stickler with the issues seems ripe for some fun. WL Craig´s Kalam Cosmological argument not least of all.

    • @davidaskme4358
      @davidaskme4358 2 года назад

      Was taught Science is facts and knowing. Not believing or assuming. If it is Science then it's truth can be explained without any DOUGHT

    • @davidaskme4358
      @davidaskme4358 2 года назад

      Religion is humans poison. Devides us. Causes deception and lying. Manipulated. Every religion wants to PROVE that it is the only way for man to live and are willing to kill and die for that cause. Instead of the 1 true fact of them all is UNITY. WE SHOULD BE ALL UNITED UNDER HUMAN RELIGION. WE NEED LIVE,FAMILIES,FOOD,AND TRUTH. EVERYTHING MUST HE BASED OFF TRUTH. IS SODA GOOD FOR HUMANS? IS SUGAR GOOD FOR OUR HEALTH. TEACH US AND GIVE US TRUTH ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO KIVE RIGHT. DONT GIVE ME A CHOICE BETWEEN WATER SODA ALCOHOL. IF IT SERVES NO GOOD FOR ME THEN GET RID OF IT. WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO INDULGE IN CONTROLLED BAD THINGS FOR US BC WHEN YOU SAY YOU CANT HAVE SOMETHING, THAT MAKES SOME OPL WANT UT MORE Just BC U SAID IT WAS BAD FOR YOU OR ITS NO GOOD. SAID WEED WAS BAD FOR HIW LING NOW ITS WHAT OK ALL SUDDEN BC CAN BUILD SCHOOLS AND FIX ROADS BC IF IT,BUT YET YOU USED TO OUT OEOPLE IN ORISON FOR IT AND DESTRYED COUNTLESS LIVES BC OF IT. USED TO WALK N RESTERAUNT AND THEY WYD ASK SMOKING OR NON? NOW CUGS ARW THE DEVIL. YOUR SCUM IF YOU SMOKE. JUST HYPOCRITICAL LEADERS

    • @robinhoodstfrancis
      @robinhoodstfrancis 2 года назад

      @@davidaskme4358 "Religion is poison"? Not if you understand that you mean intolerant doctrinal religion. Any ideology that becomes knee-jerk reactionary in intolerance is an intolerant doctrinal religion.
      The solution is to seek God, not join a religion. That´s Jesus´ legacy in University-based society has made possible with University-based study, the Freedom of Religion, and UN human rights-sustainability with structured pluralism, for starters.
      So, basically, start reading good books and visit a Buddhist temple, or go to a 12 step meeting, yoga class, tai chi class, and more.

    • @robinhoodstfrancis
      @robinhoodstfrancis 2 года назад

      @@davidaskme4358 "Science" is about philosophy applied to physical things. Philosophy is about getting at the truth, and empiricism is broader and underlies scientific philosophy.
      That covers all the University-based disciplines, and what I call multidisciplinary philosophy overall. In brief, it takes studying psychology and sociology, spiritual-religious practice to reflect on the meaning of human symbolic behavior. The evolution of speech and cave art goes far.
      "We live in Jesus´ legacy of loving integrity in University-based, UN human rights-sustainability society with structured pluralism," is a basic insight I can share off the bat. But you have to go read some good books and try to make the world a better place. I recommend Sierra Club, Greenpeace, the PIRGs, and Oxfam for starters.

  • @mcmxli-by1tj
    @mcmxli-by1tj 8 лет назад +2

    This lecture needs to be decomposed into three or four more detailed expositions. As is, it goes too fast to nail down any points.

  • @SallyMorem
    @SallyMorem 7 лет назад +2

    In order for us to get anywhere reasonably close to the truth of how apparently non-physical minds can arise out of physical processes, our neuroscientists will have to do a lot more work on those levels of brain processes that lie between the physical process of neuronal firing and the psychological. We aren't anywhere close to even asking the right questions on this. But to assume because of our lack of knowledge that minds simply couldn't emerge out of physical processes by themselves is simply to make yet another God of the gaps argument. One that may be disproven in the future like so many others were in the past.

    • @robinhoodstfrancis
      @robinhoodstfrancis 4 года назад

      We certainly can ask important questions, and make note of relevant phenomena. It is, however, fundamental to reclaim this discussion for knowledge and back from the materialistic clutches of Science by identifying Scientism´s monopolistic fallacies and Science´s actual identity as a form of Empirical Philosophy. The sociocultural foundations of modern Empirical Scientific Philosophy, moreover are not merely ancient Greek, but essentially modernizing University-based Christian, meaning clearly but complexly in Jesus´ legacy and his own place expanding from Hebrew prophetic culture. The Lord´s Prayer, for example, has psychosocially potentiated us for things like explicitly loving our neighbor as ourselves and seeking forgiveness and not the ambitions of the Roman imperial Senate. I´ll gladly present the extended philosophical implications that I´m working out from unreconciled scholarship, although Fritjof Capra´s General Systems Theory work and emergent properties are much of the substance.

    • @awsomrapper
      @awsomrapper 2 года назад

      Damn that's deep

  • @davidaskme4358
    @davidaskme4358 2 года назад

    I think it would helpful and just my lil guys thinking, is that should form a system or committee to always uphold the truth and dismantle lies that evil tries to spread. As I was watching your speech on prime about 9/11 your audience had all silver hair ppl blessed with that color hair bc they made it that far in life to grow grey hair. Grey hair to me is a crown to say I made it this far in life and that alone is a blessing when I'm sitting here with a tumor on my brain at age 44. Now I envy the grey hair I used to laugh and mock bc that's OLD ppl,lol. How I wish I could grow OLD. like they say, same thing make you laugh, make you cry then die. My point which I get distracted bc of this tumor brain goes everywhere when writing, should work on ways to broaden your listeners. I don't think younger people would listen or want to hear TRUTH from you bc it's hard to relate. Vice versa. You wouldn't listen to young people if they had tattoos and smoking weed or snorting coke said hey man I can PRIVE that the police or government is corrupt. You would dismiss him bc he doesn't have a COLLEGE DEGREE or doesn't look like someone you could believe. The important message should always be what everyone has and stands in TRUTH. YOU SHOULD FUND LEADERS IN People THAT WHATEVER AGE THEY ARE IN WOULD KISTEN OR FOLLOW. YOU WANT YOUNG BLACK MALE TO LISTEN AND FOLLOW? WHO IS THE OEOPLE THEY FOLLOW OR LISTEN TO NOW? LIL WAYNE, LIL BABY, ETC ETC. YOU TAKE AND SIT WITH A LIL WAYNE OR WHOEVER AND MAKE HIM A LEADER AND SPEAKER OF TRUTH. WANT WHITE MAN IN TENNESSEE TO FOLIW AND KUSTEN? MAKE BRAD PAISELY A SENATOR OF TRUTH. I WOULD LOVE TO BE OART OF YOUR TRUTH COMITTEE IF YOU EVER EVEN READ YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS VIDEO. THIS ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO HOPEFULLY GETTING YOU TO LISTEN TO A NOBODY LIKE ME

  • @Johnconno
    @Johnconno 4 года назад +3

    I want, I want. To see the face of God.

    • @robinhoodstfrancis
      @robinhoodstfrancis 4 года назад +3

      "Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me." Jesus. Cosmology is so diversionary, it embodies what they call a sin. What a little basic spiritual practice and balance does is teach about the meaning of addiction and the need for recovery. I´m glad I got my bachelors in Bio Anthro and worked in Social Services. You look up Milton Erickson MD and now someone like Lewis Mehl-Medrona MD, PhD and you´ll be well on your way, there, Starchild.

  • @mattbuttram2264
    @mattbuttram2264 11 месяцев назад

    Serpent theology

  • @davidaskme4358
    @davidaskme4358 2 года назад

    Just because I'm Jeff bezos doesn't give me the right to walk in a restaurant and be seated immediately after I been waiting over an hr standing in line. He should wait like the next man. Don't like it? Go eat somewhere else instead of using ur wealth a a value of what kind of human you are. You sold a lot of books for ppl and expanded your ideas and thoughts and became one of the richest(money wise)and forgot what is was like as a NORMAL HUMAN BEING. Your wealth should be valued on how much good you do towards the betterment and health of ALL human beings alike despite color ,religion, or country of origin. We all breathe same oxygen,all need food for nourishment and health of our human temples,and all have right to be heard and express anything that the next man does causes their way of life to be devalued or unappreciated. If we demonstrate and show benefits of what living the next human being and give ones that fought something to believe in, this world would be so much stronger and healthier. Everything must and always based on TRUTH. IMAGINE IF WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER INSTEAD OF COMPETITIVELY AGINST EACH OTHER, WE COULD ACHIEVE SO MUCH MORE. TAKE THE BEST FROM USA,BEST FRIM CHINA,BEST FROM WHEREVER AND MADE SOMETHING THAT ALL WOULD BENEFIT AND GROW FROM THIS WORLD WOULD BE A DREAM. BC REALITY STOPS THAT DREAM UNTIL TRUTH CONVINCES OTHERWISE. WE CANT LET THEM WIN.

  • @salujathustra9905
    @salujathustra9905 Год назад

    Thoughts are conditioned, they aren't independent. God exists but as an idea in the shared pool of human consciousness! What exist outside of it might surprise, but very few people care. Ignorance reigns and finds it peak in guys like these.

    • @Ellisamalachim
      @Ellisamalachim 3 месяца назад

      Sorry I know it’s been a year but do you think you could expand what you mean ? What do you mean “guys like these” ?

  • @katieprior2003
    @katieprior2003 4 года назад +1

    why did i choose philosophy that is an hour and 40 mins ill never get back

    • @vasey6635
      @vasey6635 4 года назад +4

      you kidding me? who doesn't talk about prehensions and primordial nature in casual talk?

  • @keithlarson4113
    @keithlarson4113 2 года назад

    Quite possibly the worst public speaker in the history of speaking publicly. Jesus, it's painful listening to this guy attempt to accomplish sentences.

    • @geoffwitt4227
      @geoffwitt4227 Год назад

      That is the almost universal response of mainstream Christians and atheists to this theology. I found this to be riveting. His books are even better. Ezekiel 12:2 “They have eyes to see but do not see and ears to hear but do not hear..."

  • @TheRooster1988
    @TheRooster1988 8 месяцев назад

    He is also the cool dude who wrote the 9/11 books.