he probably also enjoyed hurting the mother like that because she was so close to dorothy who he couldn’t mess with anymore. he probably got angry the father answered because he was different from the women
I think he was scared of the father recognizing his voice. Dorothy herself said the voice was familiar but couldn't place it. The person knew the father and Dorothy saw this person in passing.
I also thought this too!! The father probably knew him or had met him once! This guys seems clever. This is something he would be aware of and careful with.
I think the dog was buried over her just to mislead people and if they found the dog’s bones during a search they wouldn’t look deeper and assume that it’s only dog bones and there’s nothing under to look into. In that case they wouldn’t find her body
They can usually tell if there is something buried underneath the ground due to the dirt. They analyze the dirt so see if it was disturbed. Cadavers are trained to know the difference between human and animal remains. They can even detect remains in ash form. Their sense of smell is incredible. They can smell through concrete and can detect a body in water. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible that her remains were underneath.
Ok I don’t want to be THAT person, but I truly believe that Mike Butler could have very well been responsible for Dorothy’s murder. Shawn Scott, Dorothy’s son, tried several times to reach out to Rosemary Butler (Mike’s sister), and was ignored every time. Apparently it was known by Dorothy’s “friends” that Mike Butler had an obsession with Dorothy. Mike worked across the street from the shop Dorothy and his sister worked at. So it makes sense how he would know Dorothy’s schedule. The shop Dorothy worked at was, at one time, owned by Dorothy’s father, Jacob Scott. And he would still sometimes go and do maintenance type stuff there. So it would make sense that Dorothy’s father would be familiar with the employees and could have possibly known Mike Butler as an acquaintance because of Rosemary Butler working there. The only time Jacob answered one of the phone calls, the man on the other end hung up. It’s possible he knew Jacob would recognize his voice! This case baffles the hell out of me and probably will forever. It seriously bugs me that just because there “isn’t enough evidence,” some psychopath gets to live out his long life like normal while poor Shawn has to grow up without his mom. :(
Imagine what the family felt. They could actually have regularly interacted with the killer without knowing. Also the problem with stalker cases is that it could literally be anyone, 'bump into someone on the streets boom you're their new infatuation.'
Exactly! The show obsession from investigation discovery shows many stories about stalkers and how you can just get nice to someone one time and they become obsessed and become consumed in their fantasies
@@shaeanalise6738 This is going to be long so feel free not to read it if you don’t want to, but I literally had it happen to me. I promise that all of this is true, too. When I was a Sophomore in high school, this new kid - let’s call him Jeff - was placed into my math class. Jeff’s last name was the same as mine so he sat right behind me in that class period. I was one of the selected students at school who got assigned to new kids to show them around/help them out during their first week. I wasn’t assigned to Jeff, but I assumed that he felt awkward because he was new and he was so quiet on his first day. I was going to be sitting in front of him for the whole year so I decided to “break the ice”. I turned around in my seat to face him after he’d been introduced in front of the class, smiled, told him my name, said a few things that I can’t remember now, and then I jokingly mentioned “Hey, if we got married one day then I’d be able to keep my last name the same” (you know... since his last name is the same as mine). HE JUST GLARED AT ME! It was the most hateful look that a stranger has ever given me before. Still trying to be nice, I told him that I hoped he would have a good first day. He looked at me with disgust. He never talked to me. Not even one word. He always just stared daggers into my soul. Our teacher changed the seating arrangement up one day, and Jeff became seated at a desk across the room from me. I’d catch him hatefully squinting at me *every single time* that my eyes shifted towards his direction, and he wouldn’t look away AT ALL when I’d notice him staring. He’d just glare harder. So... now you’re probably wondering where this is going? It seems obvious that the guy just hated me for some reason. Well, that school year ended and luckily Jeff never had another class with me. In fact, I hadn’t seen Jeff anywhere since last school year ended. It was the MIDDLE of Junior year, and one day I got multiple phone calls from a number that I didn’t know. I wouldn’t answer. Finally, I got text messages from the number. “Why aren’t you answering my calls?” “Why are you ignoring me?!” I responded, “Who is this?” The next message that came in confused me. “It’s your future husband. :)” I didn’t reply because I thought that it was probably a wrong number or a prank, but I got another message within 10 minutes. “Why are you ignoring me when we barely get to see each other now? I have to wait for you in the hall just to spend time with you. Your new hair is pretty.” I legitimately dropped my phone in shock. I had just had my hair dyed the previous day. I knew this was someone that had seen me at school, but I still didn’t know who. So, I asked again who it was that was texting me. “It’s Jeff, gorgeous. :) Who else would be your future husband? >:(“ Honestly, I had forgotten all about Jeff, and I know other people named Jeff so I couldn’t pin-point exactly which one it would be. So I made the mistake of asking, “Which Jeff? I’m sorry, but I know many Jeffs.” HE BECAME FURIOUS! He told me his last name, repeated _verbatim_ what I’d said to him in math class a year and a half prior, said that he thought that we were meant-to-be and that we “had a connection”, and then he claimed that I must be cheating on him. I didn’t respond, and I considered blocking his number immediately, but I had a gut feeling that I would need to see/document if he sent me anymore messages because he was acting crazy. Well, he did continue messaging me. He apologized to me the next day, described something that I did at lunch as adorable (I NEVER saw him in the cafeteria), and he asked me to go on a “real date” with him. I very gently told him that I was only interested in being friends with him, and he acted as if I had just called off our wedding. He even admitted to me that he’d collect my pencils and sniff my hair as if those actions were normal. I rushed to tell my parents because they have police friends who could potentially help, and I blocked his number. I never heard from him again, but I had to delete all of my social media because he kept trying to add me on new accounts. I never saw him again either, but I always had the feeling that he was stalking me every day at school. I became so paranoid because 1.) I still have zero clue how he got my number in the first place, 2.) He’d been watching me for only God knows how long without me ever knowing, and 3.) He became infatuated with me over the only conversation that we’d ever had before he started texting me 18 months later, and he’d always acted as if he had wanted to kill me when I had class with him Sophomore year. To make matters worse, this wasn’t the first nor last time that I was stalked and/or harassed by someone. I’ve had 2 other stalkers, and 1 case was so scary that the literal FBI got involved. That story is much longer than this one even is, though, and Jeff is my main stalking case that entails me simply being nice to a new kid who then became obsessed. It’s honestly creepy how someone can fantasize an entire relationship with you and you not even know it. Again, I apologize that this is long, but I thought that I’d add one of my cases in case you’d like to hear it!
@@laurashjack don’t apologize!!! I’m very interested in stories like this! I’m so sorry that happened to you! It really is just so terrifying how you can say one thing and someone can fantasize and become so obsessed!!! It’s terrifying!
I feel like it can’t be an ex-boyfriend calling her constantly... she said the voice was vaguely familiar but if it was someone she shared her life with I reckon she would recognize their voice easily.... I definitely know my partner’s voice on the phone or not🤷🏽♀️
Maybe she did recognize his voice, but she couldn’t tell her parents who the caller was. If they were religious/conservative, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have a boyfriend when she was a kid.
@@rainywoex5035 maybe she wasn't but she had a child so i doubt the parents would care that much especially as the stalker was saying they would kill her etc you would definitely tell your parents no matter what
@@ilovethehungergames467 Her lack of proactivity is a bit suspect. She could have moved in her with her parents or bought a gun, and she did neither. She also didn’t inform the police that she had a stalker. Makes me think that maybe she was a participant in this “game” over the telephone, but it got out of hand.
@@rainywoex5035 she did tell her parents ab the stalker tho. if she was in on it why would she tell them and what would the fun be in that? sbe probably didn't think anything would actually happen. and that she was safe.
I think the dog was there so that sniffer dogs would smell it then they’d find the dog and then ignore her body underneath after and play it off as it just being the dog u know what I mean
It’s terrifying to think about how little it takes sometimes for stalkers to become attached to their victims. Dorothy could have checked out at the grocery store and the cashier became her stalker, and she would be vaguely familiar with his voice from repeated encounters at her neighborhood store. Or it could be the night clerk at the convenience store by her work, or her son’s daycare provider, or literally anyone - that’s what freaks me out about stalkers 😳 There’s not necessarily a way for the victim to even know how they caught the stalker’s attention in the first place. Just because the man said he was in love with Dorothy doesn’t mean Dorothy had a clue who he was 💔 What a scary way to spend her last few months on earth. Rest In Peace Dorothy Scott, you seem like a beautiful soul who the world was better for having here.
@@LaurenGVideography she can do both! I follow Breny Lee & Asha Christina & they do both. Diff content but I Dnt see why not. She can reach more people. Even by putting out the same content on various platforms.
the guy on the phone may have wanted to kill the mother too, which is why he did the exact same thing to her that he did to Dorothy. When Jacob answered the phone the guy freaked out and changed his mind because maybe Jacob would know his voice? makes sense loll
He called once a week for four years, and because he never once stayed on the line long enough to be traced, the police think he knew the line was bugged. Which means he knew they were being recorded and they'd obviously play them for her father to see if he recognized it. Even if he didn't assume that for some reason, they _were_ obviously played for him and as its still unsolved, he clearly didn't regonize the voice.
the dog thing is do throw off police, if they went with sniffer dogs, the dogs would detect the body but the police would think it was just the animal setting them off
I️ actually do wonder if it was Dorothy driving, and did so in such a way as to alarm her friends into calling the police right away, as well as pass by them without her kidnapper knowing she knew them. If there were two kidnappers and one was driving doing that would just make them look suspicious. I️’d actually be more surprised if he had an accomplice. Stalkers stalk for different reasons, but ones this diligent often have a form of erotomania or something like it, and are in love with their victims and can sometimes believe the feeling is reciprocated, or would be if they could get their attention, no man stalking her so incredibly diligently would share her with anyone else. Also, if that was the case it didn’t matter whether she actually had a boyfriend or not, if he saw her flirting with a man it could have quickly escalated into an “If I️ can’t have her, no one can” situation, or he kidnapped her, realized she didn’t love him, and killed her. That would also explain why he continued to harass her mother specifically for a while (until he found a new woman to fixate on), he regretted killing Dorothy and he missed her, and the closest thing to her would be her mother. Calling and asking if she was there would make it feel less like she was gone. Just some theories, this one is a really bizarre case.
Such a well thought theory. I agree that it was probably her driving. he probably broke into her car and waited in the backseat with a gun or knife to her. He probably knew those were her friends because he stalked her to the hospital so he probably forced her to put her flashers on so they couldn’t see him in the back or cry for help. I agree that her erratic driving was probably to alert them. He probably took her to somewhere secluded furious probably because he thought she was intimate with her coworker who she took to the hospital. Whatever she said probably didn’t matter to him so he killed her in a fit of rage and grew to deeply regret it and try to glorify it by proclaiming he killed her. Getting off on the fact that he took her life which to him is probably the most intimate thing. This is probably a stretch but that could explain why he wanted to get so close with the mother not to replace her but to get a feeling of her life force again through the woman who gave her life. What a disturbing individual but incredibly calculated.
Unsolved cases drive me insane The fact that she knew that voice really leads me to believe it was someone she knew maybe not very close but he/she/they were in her circle
@@lyricalm6846 yes.... this person is talking about how the killer called the newspaper and said he killed her because she had another lover even though she said she didn't. it's very possible the killer was delusional and saw dorothy interacting with any men as cheating. however, it's also possible he said that as a red herring.
The best theory I read is that the killer/stalker was someone who did deliveries to the head shop where Dorothy worked. That would explain how the voice would be just familiar enough, but not to the point where Dorothy could place it.
I've heard about most of the cases you cover. BUT, you never fail to bring new info that I haven't heard. Your attention to detail is much appreciated, as is your amazingly in depth research. Thanks so much.
I really think it was someone that her and her father had once met but after that never again spoke. If they could have really dug into her fathers acquaintances that had a connection with her. And also looked into her coworkers brother!
I’m wondering if the ‘friend’ that said she had the personality of a phone book, was also the coworker who’s brother may have been the stalker and could also be the coworker that went to the hospital with her, or if maybe the friend with the ‘personality of a phone book’ comment knew who the stalker was and it was someone she had a crush on or was her ex, seems like a bitchy jealous comment to make!
I wonder why she didn’t hang up on him the second she heard his voice. I had a creepy guy calling me up once and I just hung up every time I realised it was him.... there is no way I would listen to him telling me he wanted to kill me etc? 🤷♀️
The whole ‘the dad knew him and that’s why he didn’t talk to him” is sort of a good theory except for the fact that his voice has been recorded so the dad probably has heard the recordings
Oh my god, _thank you._ Every youtuber thats covered this case has a comment section full of "he must have known her father and was scared his voice would be recognized" but...four _years_ of calls recorded by police, and they wouldn't have played them for him? They absolutely did, especially since she'd said she found the voice familiar, so of _course_ theyd ask her parents to see if they recognized it. Its still unsolved, so we can assume he didn't regonize it. On top of that, not one of those phone calls lasted long enough to be traced, which made them think the called _knew_ the line was tapped, which means hed _know_ the calls were recorded and would be played for her father.
Sarah Sutherland yes exactly! There is just no way he hung up because he knew the dad. Dorothy might have known her killer but I seriously doubt the parents did. But then again, I guess cases like these are just so frustrating that you start to see clues where there are none
I think if Dorothy knew who her stalker was, she would have told someone. She seemed scared enough to tell someone. It was obviously a local, because he was able to watch her while being unnoticed. I'm sure the police talked to the man and he was dismissed since he seemed "normal". I'm sad for Dorothy and her family, especially her son. A case like this would most likely be solved nowadays.
I think its absolutely adorable when you get excited over little things like your earrings lol. You have a beautiful soul. Just stunning, inside & out. RUP Dorothy. I hope justice is served on the other side ❤
Good recap of this story! Thank you!! I have not read the comments, so someone might have already said this: If she made a call while at the hospital, she could only use landlines. there were no "personal" Phones (cell).back then. Unless the hospital phone was right next to the bathroom, using a phone in the restroom is very unlikely.
I think it was just a random stalker who romanticized his brief interactions with her. When she took her co-worker to the hospital I think he took that as her cheating with him and he lost it and murdered her. A delusional stalker.
That’s so terrifying to get phone calls everyday like that knowing that you’re being stalked why didn’t she call the police during that or had someone stay with her poor girl she must’ve been terrified all time while taking care of her child
honestly? good chance she probably did report it but because of the fact he wasn’t physically harassing her or anything, they probably didn’t take it all too seriously. obviously just a theory, but you know how the police in stories like these are :(
I love these so much! I use these whilst I’m on the treadmill at the gym and it helps me zone out and not stress about everyone around me. Plus, the mysterious are so interesting ❤️
That guy was surely delusional when he freaked out that she "cheated" when she took that guy to the hospital. He probably thought she was innocent and could do no wrong and was sensible and to think she would be capable of "cheating" brought his infatuation with her to utter hatred and revenge.
Completely agree. He probably got off on the fact that she worked in a hippy dippy store with people he’d consider sinful and she was this vanilla innocent pure girl next door who only cared for her son. Him seeing her interacting with any other man most likely infuriated him. That’s probably why he never made a move to interact with her in person besides the calls and stalking because his love for her was based on how uninterested she was in other men and even he himself wouldn’t want to corrupt that. He created this image of her and her taking some random man to the hospital drove him insane with jealousy.
She worked by the corner of Disneyland, I remember that shop, it was right by a auto shop on the corner and a few shop right next door, it looked like a smoke shop
I thought it could also be someone at her work place who was also at the meeting on the day she was murdered because they would probably know about the spider bite and realize that she wore a different colour scarf at the meeting than she did when she got murdered
Stalkers are so terrifying... could have been someone that came into the shop or she could have met him literally anywhere.. I don't think she would have called him. Stalkers can often make up fantasy's and believe the person they are infatuated returns their feelings. What a heartbreaking case 💔
Id love you to cover Allan Legeres story!! he was a serial killer in my area in the 80s and his story is super interesting! He literally escaped prison cause he put his pee in his ear repeatedly to infect it to get taken to the hospital then escaped cops at the hospital using a broken TV antenna he had in his butt 😳
Just read up on the case - can’t believe the amount of incompetence that led to him being able to escape and commit more murders. I also read that he applied for day parole in August of this year. He should never be allowed out of prison.
I think the killer burried the dog there so that if cadaver dogs find the smell of her body the police find the dogs body and think that their dogs are wrong (my English isn’t the best, sorry)
You did amazing English btw and yes that’s a common reason for this because they will just believe that the smell was from the dog and not a person under
Hi Bella! You should into the murder of Gayle Woodford. She lived in an area of Australia with no police or laws, so her murder isn’t receiving any justice!
I have seen this case covered several times but this video is the best one that I've watched. Thank you! I feel like the information came across so clearly and the pictures you included really humanised her.
I think it's someone connected to the shop next to her work. Maybe a manager or something like that, since it seems as though the family knew the killer/stalker, but it also seems like Dorothy's father may have had more contact with the person, since he never spoke to the stalker on the phone. I think that shop is the key to this case.
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I remember this story now. The hospital scene triggered my memory. It’s obvious to me at least that the killer knew Jacob and that’s why he hung up. Jacob would have recognized him. The dog was placed there to throw off anybody searching & even cadaver dogs. Also, as other people have pointed out - Dorothy taking her male coworker to the hospital could have been seen as a form of cheating by the stalker/killer. And that’s why he took her that night - in a jealous rage. Additionally, him calling her mother after was a way for him to be close to her in some way after he killed her. Mike Butler is a viable suspect.
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Based off the information avaliable, mixed with gut feeling, I believe: 1. Dorothy's murderer is not a lover or an ex-lover. 2. Murderer is most likely an older man, possibly a relative or someone who works or lives close by. 3. Dorothy did know her killer somehow, backed up by the fact she thought she recognized his voice but couldn't pinpoint who it was. This and the fact that after her murder, when someone other than her parents picked up the phone, the man who taunted her parents (probable murderer) hung up - Maybe the person who answered the phone was someone he feared would recognize his voice? That could be a coincidence, but it's entirely possible. Another idea is that the reason the murderer knew so much about Dorothy, her whereabouts etc, is because it was someone she trusted enough to have a conversation with. Maybe she did call the murderer while at the hospital, but with the intention of updating them on the situation they were going through - this is why I think the murderer is a relative or a relative of a friend. Very close circle.
i think murderers place dog/animal remains in order to put off investigators when they dig them up. if sniffer dogs etc identify that area as containing remains, they think they'll find the dog/animal remains and not dig further thinking the dog sniffed the animal remains rather than the human ones
Can you please do Valentina's case that happened in Portugal? It's a recent solved case where parents were involved in the terrible death the little girl had
I love your mystery mondays! it is easier for me to follow the story, when you are speaking slowly like in this one (my english is not that good as you can maybe tell) I think you were faster in your videos before 🙆♀️
I feel like its someone who is either the Checker at the grocery store or the guy at the gas station or maybe a bank teller. Someone who has all that info at their fingertips. It could literally be anyone and that is scary
The dog being buried over her seems to me like an attempt to throw someone off if they ever came across the burial site. "Oh, something looks like it's been buried here. Oh, just a dog, okay." 🤷
The guy is 34 year old Maurice Jewel Taylor snr. He’s accused of decapitating his 12 and 13 year old kids. Apparently, he made his 8 and 9 year old kids look at their siblings dead bodies. Such a tragic and horrific case. If you type in the crime location name and “crime case” into google, you can also find reports on the case that way too.
I'm also an introvert, but being such doesn't mean that I don't smoke weed, coz I do, and I love smoking weed at home, while watching RUclips or some horror film, or listening to music, drawing, writing, such ish. I also like drinking beer, again at home, alone, doing pretty much the same thing :watching horror films and RUclips, etc. I just prefer to be on my own. Being introvert doesn't mean a person doesn't drink or do drugs - I am & I do.
The fact that Jacob answered the phone and that’s when they calls stopped, leads me to believe that Jacob her father knew the man on the phone.
he probably also enjoyed hurting the mother like that because she was so close to dorothy who he couldn’t mess with anymore. he probably got angry the father answered because he was different from the women
I think he was scared of the father recognizing his voice. Dorothy herself said the voice was familiar but couldn't place it. The person knew the father and Dorothy saw this person in passing.
This is exactly what I was thinking O:
I also thought this too!! The father probably knew him or had met him once! This guys seems clever. This is something he would be aware of and careful with.
Definitely a possibility but why didn't they record the voice for Jacob to hear!!
"other times ~because it's really all about balance~ he would threaten to murder her"
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I LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT LOUD WHEN SHE SAID THAT
this SENT me 😭😭
This made me lol so hard
I died at that part
I laughed so hard when she said this!!
I think the dog was buried over her just to mislead people and if they found the dog’s bones during a search they wouldn’t look deeper and assume that it’s only dog bones and there’s nothing under to look into. In that case they wouldn’t find her body
They can usually tell if there is something buried underneath the ground due to the dirt. They analyze the dirt so see if it was disturbed. Cadavers are trained to know the difference between human and animal remains. They can even detect remains in ash form. Their sense of smell is incredible. They can smell through concrete and can detect a body in water. Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible that her remains were underneath.
exactly what i thought!
Exactly what I thought!! So glad other people thought of this too
That's EXACTLY what I think too!!!
Yea pretty much so that if a police dog caught a scent they would only dig up up to the point where the dog was and not deeper 💗
Ok I don’t want to be THAT person, but I truly believe that Mike Butler could have very well been responsible for Dorothy’s murder. Shawn Scott, Dorothy’s son, tried several times to reach out to Rosemary Butler (Mike’s sister), and was ignored every time. Apparently it was known by Dorothy’s “friends” that Mike Butler had an obsession with Dorothy. Mike worked across the street from the shop Dorothy and his sister worked at. So it makes sense how he would know Dorothy’s schedule. The shop Dorothy worked at was, at one time, owned by Dorothy’s father, Jacob Scott. And he would still sometimes go and do maintenance type stuff there. So it would make sense that Dorothy’s father would be familiar with the employees and could have possibly known Mike Butler as an acquaintance because of Rosemary Butler working there. The only time Jacob answered one of the phone calls, the man on the other end hung up. It’s possible he knew Jacob would recognize his voice! This case baffles the hell out of me and probably will forever. It seriously bugs me that just because there “isn’t enough evidence,” some psychopath gets to live out his long life like normal while poor Shawn has to grow up without his mom. :(
Very plausible!
that makes a lot of sense!!
Is he the man that’s passed away?
@@tophermurch163 Yes.
That answers it for me.
Imagine what the family felt. They could actually have regularly interacted with the killer without knowing.
Also the problem with stalker cases is that it could literally be anyone, 'bump into someone on the streets boom you're their new infatuation.'
Probably came to the funeral.
Exactly! The show obsession from investigation discovery shows many stories about stalkers and how you can just get nice to someone one time and they become obsessed and become consumed in their fantasies
Okay, a new fear added to my long list of irrational but slightly possible fears
@@shaeanalise6738 This is going to be long so feel free not to read it if you don’t want to, but I literally had it happen to me. I promise that all of this is true, too.
When I was a Sophomore in high school, this new kid - let’s call him Jeff - was placed into my math class. Jeff’s last name was the same as mine so he sat right behind me in that class period. I was one of the selected students at school who got assigned to new kids to show them around/help them out during their first week. I wasn’t assigned to Jeff, but I assumed that he felt awkward because he was new and he was so quiet on his first day. I was going to be sitting in front of him for the whole year so I decided to “break the ice”. I turned around in my seat to face him after he’d been introduced in front of the class, smiled, told him my name, said a few things that I can’t remember now, and then I jokingly mentioned “Hey, if we got married one day then I’d be able to keep my last name the same” (you know... since his last name is the same as mine). HE JUST GLARED AT ME! It was the most hateful look that a stranger has ever given me before. Still trying to be nice, I told him that I hoped he would have a good first day. He looked at me with disgust.
He never talked to me. Not even one word. He always just stared daggers into my soul. Our teacher changed the seating arrangement up one day, and Jeff became seated at a desk across the room from me. I’d catch him hatefully squinting at me *every single time* that my eyes shifted towards his direction, and he wouldn’t look away AT ALL when I’d notice him staring. He’d just glare harder. So... now you’re probably wondering where this is going? It seems obvious that the guy just hated me for some reason.
Well, that school year ended and luckily Jeff never had another class with me. In fact, I hadn’t seen Jeff anywhere since last school year ended. It was the MIDDLE of Junior year, and one day I got multiple phone calls from a number that I didn’t know. I wouldn’t answer. Finally, I got text messages from the number. “Why aren’t you answering my calls?” “Why are you ignoring me?!” I responded, “Who is this?” The next message that came in confused me. “It’s your future husband. :)” I didn’t reply because I thought that it was probably a wrong number or a prank, but I got another message within 10 minutes. “Why are you ignoring me when we barely get to see each other now? I have to wait for you in the hall just to spend time with you. Your new hair is pretty.” I legitimately dropped my phone in shock. I had just had my hair dyed the previous day. I knew this was someone that had seen me at school, but I still didn’t know who. So, I asked again who it was that was texting me. “It’s Jeff, gorgeous. :) Who else would be your future husband? >:(“
Honestly, I had forgotten all about Jeff, and I know other people named Jeff so I couldn’t pin-point exactly which one it would be. So I made the mistake of asking, “Which Jeff? I’m sorry, but I know many Jeffs.” HE BECAME FURIOUS! He told me his last name, repeated _verbatim_ what I’d said to him in math class a year and a half prior, said that he thought that we were meant-to-be and that we “had a connection”, and then he claimed that I must be cheating on him. I didn’t respond, and I considered blocking his number immediately, but I had a gut feeling that I would need to see/document if he sent me anymore messages because he was acting crazy.
Well, he did continue messaging me. He apologized to me the next day, described something that I did at lunch as adorable (I NEVER saw him in the cafeteria), and he asked me to go on a “real date” with him. I very gently told him that I was only interested in being friends with him, and he acted as if I had just called off our wedding. He even admitted to me that he’d collect my pencils and sniff my hair as if those actions were normal. I rushed to tell my parents because they have police friends who could potentially help, and I blocked his number. I never heard from him again, but I had to delete all of my social media because he kept trying to add me on new accounts. I never saw him again either, but I always had the feeling that he was stalking me every day at school. I became so paranoid because 1.) I still have zero clue how he got my number in the first place, 2.) He’d been watching me for only God knows how long without me ever knowing, and 3.) He became infatuated with me over the only conversation that we’d ever had before he started texting me 18 months later, and he’d always acted as if he had wanted to kill me when I had class with him Sophomore year.
To make matters worse, this wasn’t the first nor last time that I was stalked and/or harassed by someone. I’ve had 2 other stalkers, and 1 case was so scary that the literal FBI got involved. That story is much longer than this one even is, though, and Jeff is my main stalking case that entails me simply being nice to a new kid who then became obsessed. It’s honestly creepy how someone can fantasize an entire relationship with you and you not even know it. Again, I apologize that this is long, but I thought that I’d add one of my cases in case you’d like to hear it!
@@laurashjack don’t apologize!!! I’m very interested in stories like this! I’m so sorry that happened to you! It really is just so terrifying how you can say one thing and someone can fantasize and become so obsessed!!! It’s terrifying!
I feel like it can’t be an ex-boyfriend calling her constantly... she said the voice was vaguely familiar but if it was someone she shared her life with I reckon she would recognize their voice easily.... I definitely know my partner’s voice on the phone or not🤷🏽♀️
I thought that too, but maybe he was changing so she cant recognize it?
Maybe she did recognize his voice, but she couldn’t tell her parents who the caller was. If they were religious/conservative, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have a boyfriend when she was a kid.
@@rainywoex5035 maybe she wasn't but she had a child so i doubt the parents would care that much especially as the stalker was saying they would kill her etc you would definitely tell your parents no matter what
@@ilovethehungergames467 Her lack of proactivity is a bit suspect. She could have moved in her with her parents or bought a gun, and she did neither. She also didn’t inform the police that she had a stalker. Makes me think that maybe she was a participant in this “game” over the telephone, but it got out of hand.
@@rainywoex5035 she did tell her parents ab the stalker tho. if she was in on it why would she tell them and what would the fun be in that? sbe probably didn't think anything would actually happen. and that she was safe.
I think the dog was there so that sniffer dogs would smell it then they’d find the dog and then ignore her body underneath after and play it off as it just being the dog u know what I mean
yes exactly what i was thinking so it would throw police off n the killer would be in the all clear
@Kiji Art its kinda scary how people go through all this struggle just so somebody isn't alive
@Kiji Art they always like to call it a cult thing, or a ritual thing
It’s terrifying to think about how little it takes sometimes for stalkers to become attached to their victims. Dorothy could have checked out at the grocery store and the cashier became her stalker, and she would be vaguely familiar with his voice from repeated encounters at her neighborhood store. Or it could be the night clerk at the convenience store by her work, or her son’s daycare provider, or literally anyone - that’s what freaks me out about stalkers 😳 There’s not necessarily a way for the victim to even know how they caught the stalker’s attention in the first place. Just because the man said he was in love with Dorothy doesn’t mean Dorothy had a clue who he was 💔 What a scary way to spend her last few months on earth. Rest In Peace Dorothy Scott, you seem like a beautiful soul who the world was better for having here.
So excited for the 12 days of Christmas/Mystery Mondays!!!!
Yh she is
Bella you should totally do a podcast as well!
oh hell yeah id listen to that lol
i prefer videos so i hope she sticks to vids
@@LaurenGVideography she can do both! I follow Breny Lee & Asha Christina & they do both. Diff content but I Dnt see why not. She can reach more people. Even by putting out the same content on various platforms.
@@whitneybright5471 yeah i meant if she does i hope she does the vids as well!
Geez give the girl a day off.
the guy on the phone may have wanted to kill the mother too, which is why he did the exact same thing to her that he did to Dorothy. When Jacob answered the phone the guy freaked out and changed his mind because maybe Jacob would know his voice? makes sense loll
He called once a week for four years, and because he never once stayed on the line long enough to be traced, the police think he knew the line was bugged. Which means he knew they were being recorded and they'd obviously play them for her father to see if he recognized it. Even if he didn't assume that for some reason, they _were_ obviously played for him and as its still unsolved, he clearly didn't regonize the voice.
the dog thing is do throw off police, if they went with sniffer dogs, the dogs would detect the body but the police would think it was just the animal setting them off
i hope that made sense
@@lettertoelyse wait so the dog would sniff out the human body or dog remains? So the police would dig up the dog remains then stop digging?
@@ChialukaGold yea idk which one they would smell but when police would dig it up they would think it was just a dead animal
I️ actually do wonder if it was Dorothy driving, and did so in such a way as to alarm her friends into calling the police right away, as well as pass by them without her kidnapper knowing she knew them. If there were two kidnappers and one was driving doing that would just make them look suspicious. I️’d actually be more surprised if he had an accomplice.
Stalkers stalk for different reasons, but ones this diligent often have a form of erotomania or something like it, and are in love with their victims and can sometimes believe the feeling is reciprocated, or would be if they could get their attention, no man stalking her so incredibly diligently would share her with anyone else.
Also, if that was the case it didn’t matter whether she actually had a boyfriend or not, if he saw her flirting with a man it could have quickly escalated into an “If I️ can’t have her, no one can” situation, or he kidnapped her, realized she didn’t love him, and killed her.
That would also explain why he continued to harass her mother specifically for a while (until he found a new woman to fixate on), he regretted killing Dorothy and he missed her, and the closest thing to her would be her mother. Calling and asking if she was there would make it feel less like she was gone.
Just some theories, this one is a really bizarre case.
Such a well thought theory. I agree that it was probably her driving. he probably broke into her car and waited in the backseat with a gun or knife to her. He probably knew those were her friends because he stalked her to the hospital so he probably forced her to put her flashers on so they couldn’t see him in the back or cry for help. I agree that her erratic driving was probably to alert them. He probably took her to somewhere secluded furious probably because he thought she was intimate with her coworker who she took to the hospital. Whatever she said probably didn’t matter to him so he killed her in a fit of rage and grew to deeply regret it and try to glorify it by proclaiming he killed her. Getting off on the fact that he took her life which to him is probably the most intimate thing. This is probably a stretch but that could explain why he wanted to get so close with the mother not to replace her but to get a feeling of her life force again through the woman who gave her life. What a disturbing individual but incredibly calculated.
Also the fact that he couldn't hear her voice anymore so he wanted to hear a voice that was similar and reminded him of Dorothy
we really need an “earring of the day” from bella in each video
“Because it’s all about balance, would sometimes threaten to murder her” I can’t 😂
Unsolved cases drive me insane The fact that she knew that voice really leads me to believe it was someone she knew maybe not very close but he/she/they were in her circle
The killer could have been a guy she blew off.
Because its really all about ✨balance✨
I lost it lmfao 💀
Yeah. I cracked up there lol
maybe her "cheating" on him was her bringing the co worker to the hospital and the killer maybe got jealous?? just a thought.
didnt she receive the calls before that event happened though
@@lyricalm6846 yes.... this person is talking about how the killer called the newspaper and said he killed her because she had another lover even though she said she didn't. it's very possible the killer was delusional and saw dorothy interacting with any men as cheating. however, it's also possible he said that as a red herring.
That’s what I thought too
I thought that as well
Is her son still alive? So sad that he lost his mother at such a young age.
yes he goes by sean now and is still trying to find her killer
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Bella, thank you so much for bringing awareness to these cases and thank you for always being so respectful ❤️
True....
The best theory I read is that the killer/stalker was someone who did deliveries to the head shop where Dorothy worked. That would explain how the voice would be just familiar enough, but not to the point where Dorothy could place it.
I've heard about most of the cases you cover. BUT, you never fail to bring new info that I haven't heard. Your attention to detail is much appreciated, as is your amazingly in depth research. Thanks so much.
19:07 I heard "seventeenth" instead of "seventieth" and I got so confused for a minute 😂
same
Me too. I thought it was because I'm from America lol
Omg same lol
Same! I was like….oh, maybe I’m not paying attention and am entirely confused on who’s who here…lol
I really think it was someone that her and her father had once met but after that never again spoke. If they could have really dug into her fathers acquaintances that had a connection with her. And also looked into her coworkers brother!
Yes! I have a feeling bad police work is one reason her case is unsolved.
yea family friends' are creeps.
I’m wondering if the ‘friend’ that said she had the personality of a phone book, was also the coworker who’s brother may have been the stalker and could also be the coworker that went to the hospital with her, or if maybe the friend with the ‘personality of a phone book’ comment knew who the stalker was and it was someone she had a crush on or was her ex, seems like a bitchy jealous comment to make!
I wonder why she didn’t hang up on him the second she heard his voice. I had a creepy guy calling me up once and I just hung up every time I realised it was him.... there is no way I would listen to him telling me he wanted to kill me etc? 🤷♀️
Maybe she was hoping he'd say something that would expose who he was? IDK.
@@natanyaparsons8491 yes that could be the reason! Hadn’t thought of that 🤔
The whole ‘the dad knew him and that’s why he didn’t talk to him” is sort of a good theory except for the fact that his voice has been recorded so the dad probably has heard the recordings
Oh my god, _thank you._ Every youtuber thats covered this case has a comment section full of "he must have known her father and was scared his voice would be recognized" but...four _years_ of calls recorded by police, and they wouldn't have played them for him? They absolutely did, especially since she'd said she found the voice familiar, so of _course_ theyd ask her parents to see if they recognized it. Its still unsolved, so we can assume he didn't regonize it.
On top of that, not one of those phone calls lasted long enough to be traced, which made them think the called _knew_ the line was tapped, which means hed _know_ the calls were recorded and would be played for her father.
Sarah Sutherland yes exactly! There is just no way he hung up because he knew the dad. Dorothy might have known her killer but I seriously doubt the parents did. But then again, I guess cases like these are just so frustrating that you start to see clues where there are none
I think if Dorothy knew who her stalker was, she would have told someone. She seemed scared enough to tell someone. It was obviously a local, because he was able to watch her while being unnoticed. I'm sure the police talked to the man and he was dismissed since he seemed "normal". I'm sad for Dorothy and her family, especially her son. A case like this would most likely be solved nowadays.
That first guy is so sketchy how was he never looked into wtf
Which guy? Her son's father?
@@melody2640 mike butler
The golden state killer’s granddaughter and I had a class together ...
OMG spill!!!!!!
this case is so heartbreaking!
I saw this one on reddit the other day so I was happy to see you cover it cause this case absolutely baffles me!
Not gonna lie that chicken looks murderous in the background
I think its absolutely adorable when you get excited over little things like your earrings lol. You have a beautiful soul. Just stunning, inside & out.
RUP Dorothy. I hope justice is served on the other side ❤
Girl, I recently found your channel and I'm so glad because you cover such important cases. Thanks for doing what you do! :)
I was just looking for something to listen while doing hw! This is perfect, thx Bella✨🥰
Good recap of this story! Thank you!! I have not read the comments, so someone might have already said this: If she made a call while at the hospital, she could only use landlines. there were no "personal"
Phones (cell).back then.
Unless the hospital phone was right next to the bathroom, using a phone in the restroom is very unlikely.
I think it was just a random stalker who romanticized his brief interactions with her. When she took her co-worker to the hospital I think he took that as her cheating with him and he lost it and murdered her. A delusional stalker.
That’s so terrifying to get phone calls everyday like that knowing that you’re being stalked why didn’t she call the police during that or had someone stay with her poor girl she must’ve been terrified all time while taking care of her child
ikr it's so weird how she didn't go to the police
honestly? good chance she probably did report it but because of the fact he wasn’t physically harassing her or anything, they probably didn’t take it all too seriously. obviously just a theory, but you know how the police in stories like these are :(
Steph’s point is a good one. Remember, she was abducted in 1980- harassment laws were not as stringent then as they are now.
I love these so much! I use these whilst I’m on the treadmill at the gym and it helps me zone out and not stress about everyone around me. Plus, the mysterious are so interesting ❤️
Rest in power beautiful angel ☮️🌻 thank you Bella for covering all cases respectfully
That guy was surely delusional when he freaked out that she "cheated" when she took that guy to the hospital. He probably thought she was innocent and could do no wrong and was sensible and to think she would be capable of "cheating" brought his infatuation with her to utter hatred and revenge.
Completely agree. He probably got off on the fact that she worked in a hippy dippy store with people he’d consider sinful and she was this vanilla innocent pure girl next door who only cared for her son. Him seeing her interacting with any other man most likely infuriated him. That’s probably why he never made a move to interact with her in person besides the calls and stalking because his love for her was based on how uninterested she was in other men and even he himself wouldn’t want to corrupt that. He created this image of her and her taking some random man to the hospital drove him insane with jealousy.
Never heard of this case till now considering that I grew up in orange county! So crazyyyy gives me chills 😭
She worked by the corner of Disneyland, I remember that shop, it was right by a auto shop on the corner and a few shop right next door, it looked like a smoke shop
I thought it could also be someone at her work place who was also at the meeting on the day she was murdered because they would probably know about the spider bite and realize that she wore a different colour scarf at the meeting than she did when she got murdered
Shes so gourg and I love her stories. They are so interesting and she explains them so well
Always so heartbreaking to hear the parents died without getting any closure or justice
Stalkers are so terrifying... could have been someone that came into the shop or she could have met him literally anywhere.. I don't think she would have called him. Stalkers can often make up fantasy's and believe the person they are infatuated returns their feelings. What a heartbreaking case 💔
I love how you talk about casesssss
“But you can’t tell that this is a murder story Nintendo ds game” you’re awesome bella😂😂
Golden State Killer, that’s a great theory. I hate that this happened to her. Hope Dorothy met her mother and father in heaven.
Id love you to cover Allan Legeres story!! he was a serial killer in my area in the 80s and his story is super interesting! He literally escaped prison cause he put his pee in his ear repeatedly to infect it to get taken to the hospital then escaped cops at the hospital using a broken TV antenna he had in his butt 😳
Paige savage omg 😳 that sounds crazy!!imma google him!!I hope Bella covers his case!!🤞🙏🥰
@Cfk umm? absolutely not
Just read up on the case - can’t believe the amount of incompetence that led to him being able to escape and commit more murders. I also read that he applied for day parole in August of this year. He should never be allowed out of prison.
That takes improvise, adapt and overcome to a whole new level
Ugh no
I think the killer burried the dog there so that if cadaver dogs find the smell of her body the police find the dogs body and think that their dogs are wrong (my English isn’t the best, sorry)
You did amazing English btw and yes that’s a common reason for this because they will just believe that the smell was from the dog and not a person under
I live in Garden Grove which is only about 10 minutes from Anaheim and 10 minutes from Stanton. I’m glad you are bringing awareness to this case.
This story is sooo creepy. The guy on the phone was a freak! I’m literally scared to sleep tonight
Hi Bella! You should into the murder of Gayle Woodford. She lived in an area of Australia with no police or laws, so her murder isn’t receiving any justice!
I love how US police have no investigation skills and go straight for calling in a psychic 🙄
was literally thinking i need a mystery monday soon, always pulling through at the right time !!
I have seen this case covered several times but this video is the best one that I've watched. Thank you! I feel like the information came across so clearly and the pictures you included really humanised her.
omg yesss new vid! no joke I've been watching old Mystery Monday uploads for the past 4 hours lolllll
I wish this could be like a Netflix series. Bella is one of my fav RUclipsrs ever 💕
You bring humor to these videos and I love it!
Those times no one could place a phone call from the bathroom as there were no cell phones and landlines phones were hardly placed in these places....
Bella has saved my day yet again! Seriously, thank you sis! Your channel is a bright spot in my shitty 2020❤❤❤
I really really hope this case gets solved 😞RIP 💜
Yay!! Discovered you a week ago and have already watched all of the episodes 😂
I think it's someone connected to the shop next to her work. Maybe a manager or something like that, since it seems as though the family knew the killer/stalker, but it also seems like Dorothy's father may have had more contact with the person, since he never spoke to the stalker on the phone. I think that shop is the key to this case.
I feel like if she had a secret boyfriend, she would know who it was. I mean she would have recognize the voice.
Now it’s a perfect Sunday to me!💫
It’s so strange hearing a murder story that’s less than a 40 minute drive from me.
I know there are so many people that post true crime videos but Bella is my #1 choice and has been since her very first mystery video yeaaars ago. I’ve been watching Bella since 2015 and just love her sm❤️
I remember this story now. The hospital scene triggered my memory. It’s obvious to me at least that the killer knew Jacob and that’s why he hung up. Jacob would have recognized him. The dog was placed there to throw off anybody searching & even cadaver dogs. Also, as other people have pointed out - Dorothy taking her male coworker to the hospital could have been seen as a form of cheating by the stalker/killer. And that’s why he took her that night - in a jealous rage. Additionally, him calling her mother after was a way for him to be close to her in some way after he killed her. Mike Butler is a viable suspect.
These really make staying at home better, thank you. Watching from Northern Alberta Canada. 🇨🇦 🙌🏾
Were in northern Alberta I’m in central Alberta.🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
You look radiant in this video, and your brows!!! Hair!! We love to see it, thanks for putting out awesome content, hope you’re happy and thriving Bella
Who else was trying to look for her earrings💀👀🤭
Watch her crazy earrings video!
@@Ammmmmyyyy I did it was so good!!
I ate them
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Based off the information avaliable, mixed with gut feeling, I believe:
1. Dorothy's murderer is not a lover or an ex-lover.
2. Murderer is most likely an older man, possibly a relative or someone who works or lives close by.
3. Dorothy did know her killer somehow, backed up by the fact she thought she recognized his voice but couldn't pinpoint who it was. This and the fact that after her murder, when someone other than her parents picked up the phone, the man who taunted her parents (probable murderer) hung up - Maybe the person who answered the phone was someone he feared would recognize his voice? That could be a coincidence, but it's entirely possible.
Another idea is that the reason the murderer knew so much about Dorothy, her whereabouts etc, is because it was someone she trusted enough to have a conversation with. Maybe she did call the murderer while at the hospital, but with the intention of updating them on the situation they were going through - this is why I think the murderer is a relative or a relative of a friend. Very close circle.
This series is the best thing ever omg
i think murderers place dog/animal remains in order to put off investigators when they dig them up. if sniffer dogs etc identify that area as containing remains, they think they'll find the dog/animal remains and not dig further thinking the dog sniffed the animal remains rather than the human ones
The fact that I live in Santa Ana and a couple of few minutes away from Anaheim is crazyyy
Greetings from Portugal over here! Your videos are really something! 🤗
If Pam was with her in sight the whole time, no way could she have made a phone call. In 1980, you could not make a phone call from a bathroom.
Heyyy Bella ✨✨💜 glad you uploaded 🥲
Can you please do Valentina's case that happened in Portugal? It's a recent solved case where parents were involved in the terrible death the little girl had
“Because it’s all about balance” 💀
love your little sassy comments hehe
It literally looked like you carried the baby on the thumbnail
loll it doesss
I love your mystery mondays! it is easier for me to follow the story, when you are speaking slowly like in this one (my english is not that good as you can maybe tell) I think you were faster in your videos before 🙆♀️
I feel like its someone who is either the Checker at the grocery store or the guy at the gas station or maybe a bank teller. Someone who has all that info at their fingertips. It could literally be anyone and that is scary
omg that’s my school, that’s crazy that this happened so close to where I live. love you bella💓💓
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these vids are my drug of choice
The dog being buried over her seems to me like an attempt to throw someone off if they ever came across the burial site.
"Oh, something looks like it's been buried here. Oh, just a dog, okay."
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Oh wow I’m from Anaheim CA 🤯 close by where she disappeared. Never heard of this case wow , thanks so much for new cases Bella 🙏🏽
could you please talk about the man who decapitated his children’s heads in front of their siblings. Lancaster, CA.
Yes please! I live in Lancaster and I honestly haven’t heard much about this case!
What?? That’s crazy! Do you know his name? I’m interested in looking up info on this
The guy is 34 year old Maurice Jewel Taylor snr. He’s accused of decapitating his 12 and 13 year old kids. Apparently, he made his 8 and 9 year old kids look at their siblings dead bodies. Such a tragic and horrific case.
If you type in the crime location name and “crime case” into google, you can also find reports on the case that way too.
What the what?$??!
you're so gorgeous by the way. always been beautiful but especially now! watched you for ages, love your murder mystery stuff. keep glowing sister! x
First time I ever came across a story in my hometown !!!♥️
Omg!! I’ve never been early but here I am!! Hi Bella!! Love your videos! ❤️
It’s crazy how someone could know that much about you yet you don’t even notice them at all 😓
Poor Dorothy, she pretty much kept to herself and evil still came knocking. RIP my dear😓
I'm also an introvert, but being such doesn't mean that I don't smoke weed, coz I do, and I love smoking weed at home, while watching RUclips or some horror film, or listening to music, drawing, writing, such ish. I also like drinking beer, again at home, alone, doing pretty much the same thing :watching horror films and RUclips, etc. I just prefer to be on my own. Being introvert doesn't mean a person doesn't drink or do drugs - I am & I do.
I live around the area and it’s kinda cool seeing and hearing familiar places!
Thank you thank you so much I’ve been waiting for 48 hours