You forgot to mention 15 m/h speed limit starting just before the crossovers at Queen's Park 9:19. It's my personal nightmare in the TSW3 to slow down accurately for the speed limit considering how much uphill the tracks go here
The Alpha, Bravo and Romeo is referring to the first letter of the identification plate of the signal concerned. The narrator is calling out the first letter of the signals ident code.using the phonetic alphabet. Automatic signals have the prefix A followed by the signal number on a white plate., Repeater signals (repeating the aspect of the next signal along) are identified by the prefix R for Romeo on a yellow plate . Non automatic signals worked from a box have the prefix B for Bravo,. Signals indicating junction movements and routes (position of points) have the prefix J for Juliet and calling on signals for shunting or train working movements (a train called on to proceed slowly onto an occupied section to couple up to another for example) are prefixed W for Whisky as these are working movement authority signals. Rail gap indicator signals which illuminate if the traction current is off on the next section of track are prefixed by the letter G for Golf and there are fog indicator signals (on overland sections) prefixed F for Foxtrot as well as speed restriction signals prefixed S for Sierra. These are just a few of the basic signals and there are many other types of signals such as intermediate block and home signals Etc. which all have unique prefix letters denoting their function. Basically under the LUL signal plate identification system the first letter in the code tells you what type of signal it is. Most of the signalling shown in this video is now obsolete and has been replaced by the new Communication Based Train Control for Automatic Operation of Trains, this replaces the fixed block signalling system with a moving block system where the speed and braking of trains are computer controlled allowing them to run closer together to increase capacity. The new system uses radio communication between Train and line side Radio Equipment as well as RFID Readers mounted at regular intervals on the sleepers so that the Train is always in radio communication with the Control Centre and the trains onboard computer knows the position of the Train on the tracks at all times. At stations the driver receives a new blue line side signal when the onboard computer confirms it is in contact with the control centre and a blue ATO light will illuminate on the drivers control panel, once the doors have been closed and the ATO button pressed the Train will drive itself automatically and stop automatically at the next station. Because train speed is now computer controlled it is noticeable under ATO how trains now enter into and depart from stations at a significantly higher speed than when they were previously driver controlled.
Soi Buakhao They have just been installing ATO on the, District line. - the old light box destination indicator at Upton Park was also replaced by digital sign but this does seem to be inaccurate a lot of the time.
Must making out the lamps to those signals have been hard for trainees watching this, because spotting them was near impossible here? Must the (lowered!) trackside lenses have been dirty, because the windscreen sure was?
The joy of being a train driver! All trains, tube & mainline, have dirty windscreens, it's just how life is. The signals do stand out clearer for the drivers, they are angled towards a drivers eyeline and we see light better than a camera, our eyes adjust better than they do.
Yes, it was the route the Stanmore branch trains took. After the Jubilee came along it was then the engineering link line to connect the Bakerloo to the rest of the Underground system. Of course the Bakerloo has connections to the Main Line network at Queens Park.
I do have some news reports here & there on DVD. I will have to check and convert them to MP4. I'm away for a couple of weeks so will sort out anything i may have then.
No, that was the route the Bakerloo took until May 1979 when ceased going to Stanmore and that branch became part of the Jubilee Line. It is still used for stock transfers and engineering trains and the odd railtour has used it in the past.
If you mean the one at Baker Street, you don't take the junction indicator route as that leads to the Jubilee Line. The Bakerloo used to go that way until May 1979 when the Jubilee opened. The indicator would only show if the signalman made a mistake! It is used for stock transfers and engineers trains though.....
It is the junction with the Jubilee Line, the Bakerloo's only connection with the rest of the Underground system. Plus of course when the Bakerloo went to Stanmore (1939-1979) this was the route the trains took.
This is fascinating stuff! Why are some locations called Alpha, Bravo and Romeo? You mentioned that there is a link from Bakerloo to Picadilly: are all tube lines physically linked in some way? Is it theoretically possible to drive a train between any two lines? Thanks for what you've done.
The railways use the phonetic alphabet just like the aviation industry hence a repeater signal R324 is called Romeo, the main automatic signal A324 is Alpha 324 and so on. The Bakerloo is only connected to the Jubilee Line at Baker Street (which used to be used every day when the Bakerloo ran the Stanmore branch) and no other Underground line although of course it has a mainline connection at Queens Park. Other lines have various links for stock transfers and engineering trains. The Victoria has only one link at Finsbury Park on to the Piccadilly, the Picc connects with the Northern at Kings Cross (to Euston City branch) which is the Northern's only connection to the rest of the system. The Picc connects with the District in West London and with the Met at Rayners Lane. The Central has only one connection now (the one at Ealing Broadway has since been removed, see it in use here at the end of this vid ruclips.net/video/kBO6OJv5X2g/видео.html) which is from Ruislip Depot to the Met at Ruislip on the Uxbridge branch. The Jubilee of course connects to the Met. When it was an Underground Line the East London Line connected to the District/Hammersmith Met at Whitechapel. The lines have been removed but St Marys Curve can still be seen through the gloom if you look out of the window. Hope this helps.....
You can see the signals but as they are illuminating the tunnel with a bright light from the cab the aspect is not bright, although that could also be the camera. Normally the driver's view is pitch black inside the tunnels.
I'd say the Bakerloo is worse, the trains spend a lot of time in tunnel and never get to cool down properly especially those stabled at the Elephant sidings overnight. The Central though is two third in the open and is generally cooler overall. That was my impression from my short time on their as a guard, although i agree White City-Liv St reversers isn't one of the better runs for traincrew! (the Epping-Ongar was though!)
They are using the phonetic alphabet. An automatic signal (worked by track circuits, no human involvement) has a number A123 which is Alpha one two three. A repeater signal is prefixed R, so A123's repeater is R123 and is Romeo one two three. Signals at the Elephant are BSxxx and are controled from the Line Control Room as there are lots of points in the area.
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I make this trip daily when I visit my son in London. Thank you very much for this video.
Now you know what the driver sees!
Fascinating to watch, I work on the railway, and always wondered how LUL did things, not too much difference in the signalling.
On the Bakerloo we had to know a certain amount of BR rules as well drove to Harrow over the Watford DC lines, great fun!
Same on the DIstrict... East Putney - Wimbledon & Turnham Green To Richmond over BR metals
You forgot to mention 15 m/h speed limit starting just before the crossovers at Queen's Park 9:19. It's my personal nightmare in the TSW3 to slow down accurately for the speed limit considering how much uphill the tracks go here
The Alpha, Bravo and Romeo is referring to the first letter of the identification plate of the signal concerned.
The narrator is calling out the first letter of the signals ident code.using the phonetic alphabet. Automatic signals have the prefix A followed by the signal number on a white plate., Repeater signals (repeating the aspect of the next signal along) are identified by the prefix R for Romeo on a yellow plate . Non automatic signals worked from a box have the prefix B for Bravo,. Signals indicating junction movements and routes (position of points) have the prefix J for Juliet and calling on signals for shunting or train working movements (a train called on to proceed slowly onto an occupied section to couple up to another for example) are prefixed W for Whisky as these are working movement authority signals. Rail gap indicator signals which illuminate if the traction current is off on the next section of track are prefixed by the letter G for Golf and there are fog indicator signals (on overland sections) prefixed F for Foxtrot as well as speed restriction signals prefixed S for Sierra. These are just a few of the basic signals and there are many other types of signals such as intermediate block and home signals Etc. which all have unique prefix letters denoting their function. Basically under the LUL signal plate identification system the first letter in the code tells you what type of signal it is. Most of the signalling shown in this video is now obsolete and has been replaced by the new Communication Based Train Control for Automatic Operation of Trains, this replaces the fixed block signalling system with a moving block system where the speed and braking of trains are computer controlled allowing them to run closer together to increase capacity. The new system uses radio communication between Train and line side Radio Equipment as well as RFID Readers mounted at regular intervals on the sleepers so that the Train is always in radio communication with the Control Centre and the trains onboard computer knows the position of the Train on the tracks at all times.
At stations the driver receives a new blue line side signal when the onboard computer confirms it is in contact with the control centre and a blue ATO light will illuminate on the drivers control panel, once the doors have been closed and the ATO button pressed the Train will drive itself automatically and stop automatically at the next station. Because train speed is now computer controlled it is noticeable under ATO how trains now enter into and depart from stations at a significantly higher speed than when they were previously driver controlled.
Yes, you are correct in Al you say. ATO is always faster as different drivers have different speeds and styles!
Soi Buakhao They have just been installing ATO on the, District line. - the old light box destination indicator at Upton Park was also replaced by digital sign but this does seem to be inaccurate a lot of the time.
@@ianmoseley9910 they were supposed to re-signal the East end of the District back in the mid 80s but it never happened.......
Train Sim World 2 is coming with the bakerloo line on August 6 just seeing the line
Good idea. The full north and south bound run is up. Only some cross-over moves to go....
It move to the 20th August an September
@@wwebradbutt ik.. what September???
classic it releases on 20th but more content will be added later
@@MorganTheTimeLord yh ik
The advertisments on the walls date this to circa November 2004.
Nice one Soi, 1972 Mk 11 = One arm bandits, rheo and hold!
Rheo 1 and hold as it goes.....then min, nor, max, lap, application, emergency and finally shutdown....if my memory serves me right! Sad or wot?
Must making out the lamps to those signals have been hard for trainees watching this, because spotting them was near impossible here? Must the (lowered!) trackside lenses have been dirty, because the windscreen sure was?
The joy of being a train driver! All trains, tube & mainline, have dirty windscreens, it's just how life is. The signals do stand out clearer for the drivers, they are angled towards a drivers eyeline and we see light better than a camera, our eyes adjust better than they do.
Great video 👍
So the 'Romeo' signals are not block boundaries?
No, they are repeater signals for the actual stop signal ahead. They are used when the sighting of the stop signal is obstructed.....
Wot?
No whistle upon tunnel exit?
I wonder where that tunnel at 0:15 leads to. Is it to the Jubilee Line?
Yes, it was the route the Stanmore branch trains took. After the Jubilee came along it was then the engineering link line to connect the Bakerloo to the rest of the Underground system. Of course the Bakerloo has connections to the Main Line network at Queens Park.
have you (or anyone else) got that report from Thames News circa autumn 1989 when the first prototype refrub trains were unvailed at Acton Works?
I do have some news reports here & there on DVD. I will have to check and convert them to MP4. I'm away for a couple of weeks so will sort out anything i may have then.
Are there any videos that show the track connection for the junction indicator route? 0:03
No, that was the route the Bakerloo took until May 1979 when ceased going to Stanmore and that branch became part of the Jubilee Line. It is still used for stock transfers and engineering trains and the odd railtour has used it in the past.
Why must you not accept a signal junction indicator. Isn’t the route preset for you?
If you mean the one at Baker Street, you don't take the junction indicator route as that leads to the Jubilee Line. The Bakerloo used to go that way until May 1979 when the Jubilee opened. The indicator would only show if the signalman made a mistake! It is used for stock transfers and engineers trains though.....
0:06 Drivers must not accept a juction indicator on this signal
so why have one there then?
It is the junction with the Jubilee Line, the Bakerloo's only connection with the rest of the Underground system. Plus of course when the Bakerloo went to Stanmore (1939-1979) this was the route the trains took.
This is fascinating stuff! Why are some locations called Alpha, Bravo and Romeo?
You mentioned that there is a link from Bakerloo to Picadilly: are all tube lines physically linked in some way? Is it theoretically possible to drive a train between any two lines?
Thanks for what you've done.
The railways use the phonetic alphabet just like the aviation industry hence a repeater signal R324 is called Romeo, the main automatic signal A324 is Alpha 324 and so on. The Bakerloo is only connected to the Jubilee Line at Baker Street (which used to be used every day when the Bakerloo ran the Stanmore branch) and no other Underground line although of course it has a mainline connection at Queens Park. Other lines have various links for stock transfers and engineering trains. The Victoria has only one link at Finsbury Park on to the Piccadilly, the Picc connects with the Northern at Kings Cross (to Euston City branch) which is the Northern's only connection to the rest of the system. The Picc connects with the District in West London and with the Met at Rayners Lane. The Central has only one connection now (the one at Ealing Broadway has since been removed, see it in use here at the end of this vid ruclips.net/video/kBO6OJv5X2g/видео.html) which is from Ruislip Depot to the Met at Ruislip on the Uxbridge branch. The Jubilee of course connects to the Met. When it was an Underground Line the East London Line connected to the District/Hammersmith Met at Whitechapel. The lines have been removed but St Marys Curve can still be seen through the gloom if you look out of the window. Hope this helps.....
I keep missing where signals
You need more practice......lol
You can see the signals but as they are illuminating the tunnel with a bright light from the cab the aspect is not bright, although that could also be the camera. Normally the driver's view is pitch black inside the tunnels.
oml why so fast also what year was this
It has been dated to 2004 due to the film posters on the station walls. The trains arn't going that fast, only around 30mph in the tunnel sections.
@@SoiBuakhaoRoutemasterbus danggg
Nice 👍
Not so nice if you had six tunnels to do!
Soi Buakhao 🤣, no worse than Liverpool street reversers all day on a Sunday !
I'd say the Bakerloo is worse, the trains spend a lot of time in tunnel and never get to cool down properly especially those stabled at the Elephant sidings overnight. The Central though is two third in the open and is generally cooler overall. That was my impression from my short time on their as a guard, although i agree White City-Liv St reversers isn't one of the better runs for traincrew! (the Epping-Ongar was though!)
Soi Buakhao loved the Ongar branch , no managers and no pipe !
hi, for what is used bravo and alpha signals? ty
They are using the phonetic alphabet. An automatic signal (worked by track circuits, no human involvement) has a number A123 which is Alpha one two three. A repeater signal is prefixed R, so A123's repeater is R123 and is Romeo one two three. Signals at the Elephant are BSxxx and are controled from the Line Control Room as there are lots of points in the area.
Posté
What year was this filmed. .?
I don't know for sure. It looks to be early 2000s.
2004. There are posters on walls from same batch of videos advertising films released in 2004