We're all here damn near thirty years later still debating and trying to figure Pac events out. Shit is beyond crazy. And I was only 5 when Quad happened. ffs
It's legendary shyt in Rap my boy....These are historical events. Because the way rappers are being killed now makes it seem ordinary...But Pac was the biggest rap star in the World at the time of his death along with being born of Panther bloodline and he stood by it. He stood for alot of positive changes for Black people...but he became influenced by the ones he had supposed to had been influencing and that lifestyle swallowed him.
You lose 20% of your intelligence when you get shot/upset about something. Dropping free game. It’s the same way with me and women. I got cheated on twice and don’t trust no woman now. I probably have missed out on my wife but any time I start dating somebody if she do anything that look funny or iffy I ghost her with the quickness. Nobody is born with paranoia, not being able to trust, or not giving a fck. That comes from bad experiences dealing with people you thought had you in their best interest and they show you once or sometimes multiple times how much they value you or think of you.
Tupac was more mad that Stretch was moving different AFTER the shooting, hanging out with Biggie afterward, tryna holla at Tupac’s lady, BOTH Tupac’s ladies, so i feel why Stretch went out the way he did exactly 1 year after the Quad Studios shooting of Tupac🤷🏾♀️
Stretch did not setup 2pac. and pac never said he did. He said he knew about it. Pac never blamed anyone besides jimmy henchman,jack,tut. Every body else was blamed for knowing about it and not saying anything.
Much respect to the artists that put out music for the love of it. Old school artists used to make an album and put it out. Hit or miss. Sometimes they had two songs tops that would get play. Sometimes the song wouldn't be tight until the remix. Now it's forced, "...you gotta like this because they always say some of the wall sh*#." Nothing wrong with one hit wonders or making two albums and hanging it up. If it's good, it'll be remembered.
Blacks have same crab n barrel mentality since slavery. Katt Williams is trending because Hollywood actors, comedians have the spirit of jealousy toward one another.
@@anthony12861 Gloria Cox, Afeni Shakur, Billy Lesane, Yaasmyn Fula To ñame a few. The myth that it was some real beef was hype. U notice Pac never scream Stretch name like he did everyone else. They were really family. Pac was Stretch daughter’s godfather. That east Vs west and Pac becoming a west coast nigga was all hype and good marketing. Most of the ppl that Pac had around him even after prison was New Yorkers for the most part. Pac didn’t even really have family in California. He should’ve stayed his ass in NY. Look at Majesty Walker’s interview. That nigga Dexter Isaac was cappin.
Spice 1 capping😂😂 big stretch was from queens and big stretch was definitely guilty plus running with Jimmy henchmen who confessed setting 👑 tupac 👑 up! One of the robbers said big stretch was giving Jimmy henchmen there moves play by play leading up to the shooting!
Jimmy is from Brooklyn. Stretch is from a Crew from the Northside of Queens. The dude that said Stretch was feeding them info also said that none of the hired guns shot one bullet in Tupac. You either have to believe all or none, cant pick and choose.
@@tonewopn8275 tonewop stop capping weirdo nobody ask you where there from😂 the shooter that confessed didn't mention the number of shots 😂 he was apologizing for his involvement & exposing coward Jimmy henchmen for setting 👑 tupac 👑 up & coward big stretch selling 👑 tupac 👑 out! Then he made a comment want speak on biggie😂😂 obvious Biggie he's involved too why make a comment like that if he not involved😂😂
I wonder if anyone can find the video lol. But he’s not getting treach mixed up. I’m pretty sure he’ll know the difference. He just got the place where stretch from mixed up
NO YOUNG ONES, NIGGA IS FROM JERSEY. 💯✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 MY APOLOGIES!!! WHO THE FUCK IS STRETCH!!! NOT TREACH!!! DAT NAUGHTY NIGGA FROM JERSEY!!! NEW JERSEY DRIVE SOUNDTRACK!!! I GOT MINEZ!!! 🤣🤣🤣✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
@@kefkahkefkah pretty much, thtz bc he wasn't homies wit stretch, jus knew him thru pac, sayin he from jersey, is tha 1st flag, then he was asked have u been round stretch, his answer (spice), was like yea one or two times, 2nd red flag, basically if you listen 2 spice he really didn't kno stretch b4 pac, he jus was up on some of stretches music b4 pac knew bc of tha tape he sent him!!! bc if y'all was kool like tht then he would have been round stretch mo than some 2 or 3 times, especially and you affiliate ya self wit pac!!! does tht make sense??
Used to think Pac was reaching about Stretch setting him up till the dude that robbed Tupac did an interview from prison saying Stretch set up the whole thing, where they were etc. Foul shit.
So why did pac include everybody else that had nothing to do with it? Pac was smart he was just dangerous with the female tendencies, saying shit back and forth stirring up shit with people who didn’t shit to do with his issues. Playing 48 laws of power with no guidance on the knowledge is what got him hurt and a lot of other people hurt
@@Rajt828if he displayed "female tendencies " as you call them, then there are PLENTY of men that do that. I really wish you brothers that spew that would stop it!! He was human and showed human traits. People talk about jealousy as being a "female trait," once again that's a human trait. I have plenty of friends that swear they're players and don't care, that is when it suits them, but I've witnessed the " I don't care" show jealousy on several occasions. As several rappers have said in their lyrics, " you will let a person short you on some work, but kill them over a woman." That sounds like jealousy to me. 😆 🤣
@@anthonybrooks1559 you can’t take what I said and turn it into a whole other topic on what you see and feel about your homeboys. The boy played back and forth used people against each other and got his self killed pac wasn’t no gangster he was just another lost ni&&a !
Fuckin right man! I was the perfect age to catch it all. I was born in 80. Saw the 80s, experienced the 90s, and I was literally 20 in the 2000. Can't beat it
@@christopherrobinson1219 1974 I made my debut. So I definitely caught it all. Some good times, interesting times, innocent times, not so innocent times. The whole shabang!
@@magkatcar yes. And we had both worlds. The analog and we witnessed the digital one come into existence. It truly makes us a very unique generation. We sit at the intersection of the old world and the new!
@@christopherrobinson1219 You are absolutely right about that. That is a very unique characteristic about our generation that I love. We know of a world before and after, therefore we have a really good comparison value. It also makes us much more level headed dealing with this digitized world.
That wasn't it Stretch was acting funny style not going to see Pac after he was shot and was saying some slick shot about Pac shooting himself. Plus Pac side chic Desiree Smith confirmed Stretch was trying to hit on her and kicking it with Pac's enemies
Only bad thing stretch did was try to get with 2pac girl... everything else seems like he said she said, nd from what stretch brother said they didn't have State IDs so that was one reason they couldn't go visit 2pac
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 why is your weak ass always trollin me? Stretch would get on with Biggie ... well the shit backfired and Junior Mafia just used Live Squad/YGs to screw over Pac not backin him , and Strecth never got a deal with Bad Boy fuck out of here about State IDs , Pac was trying to make calls to them dudes and they never got back nor did they make calls to him in Rikers... Stretch was saying stupid shit about Pac shootin himself which was untrue and getting at your girl is enough to get slumped...
Stretch was with after he got shot til he turned himself in he couldn’t go on the visit he gave Bags and Freddie money to put on his books then that Vibe article came out with Pac talking crazy
@@MrWARBUCKS24 no he wasn't there when Pac was shot . You don't even have to go on a visit in to get into get into contact with someone .Stretch nor Live Squad were answering Pac calls nor callin for Pac so that stupid shit you nikkas are running with from Maj and them don't mean nothing. fuck out of here with that money on books shit...
They didn’t have ID’s so they couldn’t visit Pac. Nickels who was shot with PAC that night and E Money Bags went to see PAC because they had ID’s. They told Pac what happened and reminded Pac about Cease coming downstairs to meet him and got backed into the elevator. Pac didn’t remember that. And then Pac told them he already did the Vibe article blaming everyone.
Listen closely to Stretch verse in Representing for Ron G. That verse always sruck out to me. Song was recorded a few hours before the Quad studio shooting & it sounds like he's talking about that situation
@@shawtyeatemup1352 I remember Spice said the reason he didn't go to Vegas with Pac is because he had clothes on for 3 days straight and didn't shower. I'm like, nigga, you mean to tell me you couldn't shower and buy clothes when you get there? Yea aight, it's only a Tyson fight, ok
I've never understood why people sit around sipping on alcohol?? Like, why?? You just FOOKIN your insides up... worst than sitting around sipping coca cola or any type of soda...
For those that believe in the Bible, it's ALWAYS the ones closest to you that will betray you like Judas did to Jesus! Your enemy is your enemy so you Already know they'll do anything treacherous to you off the strength!
Listen to Against All Oddz. Pac knew it was Jimmy Henchmen, Haitian Jack and Tut. He knew Big and Stretch weren’t crossing him. They loved him. Stretch ‘s daughter is PAC’s goddaughter
@@mayankingrevisited8815 I’ve always asked myself that too. Pac started listening to all the rumors. It was Clive Davis and Puff that released Who Shot Ya. It was bad timing. I wish Pac and Big would’ve resolved that issue. It was a senseless death of both. They were really good friends
No he laughs like that's how he deals with the reality of what he's saying. As a person that smiles a lot, I'm here to tell you that that's just some people's way of dealing with reality. It's called being optimistic.
I dont know how it works in the east coast but on the west if one of my folks get popped and it was a set up its protocol to tap in immediately and get to the bottom of it. Not only did Big not tap in but he released who shot ya while he was in prison. Thats what set Pac in motion and led to him murdering Biggie on wax with Hit em up. Pac Knew Biggie didnt set him up. Big aint tap in to clear the air or help him figure out what happened. Domt know if u been shot before but u get paranoid af so that was a big part if it. All big had to do was teach out and have a conversation. He actually should of went n visited n prison. Thsts wat a real homie who of done.
Facts, Pac even spoke it. “Let the real live niggas hear the truth of me. What would you do if you was me, nigga” Folks talk shit before being empathetic
He was a ballerina bro with dyed hair and one piercing on his ear .. man was ina tutu hit jail and turned gangsta to sell records that’s why his first albums no one’s talks about them he wasn’t no thug on them
There was more to 2Pac then his death and time at Death Row. You need to get DJ Daryl on here!! Then you’ll be able to get the Genesis of Oakland / Bay Area Gangster rap!!! DJ ‘D’ produced records for EVERYBODY!! You hear how Snoop got his sound from 415……. Who produced his album when he went to No Limits? There’s A Lot of history and DJ Daryl is the connection!!!
Pac said Stretch kept asking to hold the gun. This led Pac to believe Stretch was in on it after not putting up a fight during the robbery. Pac knew something might go down, because he called Jack a groupie, and questioned why he had a separate trial to a news reporter days pior. On top of Pac's disrespect, he owed Jack money, and needed money. So he had to be there to do the song.
@@rustyjames5000 it makes since for Haitian jack to send dudes to smack 2 pac up for dissing him. What doesn't make since is Jimmy henchmen involvement. What does he have to do with this rape situation/beef between 2 pac and Haitian jack?
@@user-cq5fj6fr1u Jack and Jimmy worked together, and where part of the same crew. They weren't just gangsters. They had powerful ties, and business relations with the industry. Jack had his hand in BIg's label, and Jimmy worked under Puff.
I wish that he would told who it was that killed jam master Jay cuz that was a mystery when I watched the celebrity crime files on jam master Jay on TVone 12 YEARS AGO and the guy from onyx said on that interview that it would come to light one day. Jasmine Guy even said on a video that Big stretch tried to get with her behind 2pacs back and that was FOUL on his part.
Sounds like people in prison were feeding him all kinds of conspiracies. A lot went down in a short time between the shooting, the trial, conviction & getting locked up. And then the co-defendant had a separate trial so it looked like they were in on setting him up with that. IDK anything about the Stretch situation but it must've been a lot with all that other stuff going on. And then Wendy Williams was out here saying he got raped in there. He refused to be in protective custody in there so who knows? But that's a horrific thing to say about somebody... indefensible. No wonder he went berserk after that period.
Jack got a separate case because the gun charge Jack never went to trial he cop’d to the sexual assault 2Pac could’ve done the same but he went to trial so when he was yelling why is he the only one trial well because the other 2 niggas plead guilty and got probation
Stretch would use jargon like "got that mail".... which I wonder who started it first cause I of course heard Spice say it first year's ago..... buy maybe he got it from Live Squad nem
Pac was in a heated discussion over 8k he was supposed to be paid by Jimmy Henchman to be on a little shawn song. He did not want a check, he wanted cash, and after the remarks about "hanger ons", was an insult. He knew who banged him. Kill the noise... Stretch didn't worm pac...
@@3rdGenerationCancer I don't see why what I do should be your business. I just pray you don't get betrayed by some one you showed love, shot at, lied on and go to jail for you did not do. Just pray that don't happen to you. Peace!!
@@kevinfarries5726 but he was brought up by too short bra who been in the game before 89, so tapes were sent via email and stuff spice 1 had play in Japan even bro, he also had songs with Wu Tang bra, he been around.
I love these Spice 1 interviews. The most underrated rapper in history. And yet, he's very popular.
Scarface most underrated too.
He’s one of the OGs of it as far as I’m concerned..
But he’s not the topic of discussion tonight
@@merkcityboy834 Obviously. He's been rapping since the 80's
To me, stretch is the most underrated
We're all here damn near thirty years later still debating and trying to figure Pac events out. Shit is beyond crazy.
And I was only 5 when Quad happened.
ffs
Damn.
Lmao how old are you now?
It's legendary shyt in Rap my boy....These are historical events. Because the way rappers are being killed now makes it seem ordinary...But Pac was the biggest rap star in the World at the time of his death along with being born of Panther bloodline and he stood by it. He stood for alot of positive changes for Black people...but he became influenced by the ones he had supposed to had been influencing and that lifestyle swallowed him.
@@user-Drop_Davis
Dude. I don't live in a cavern.
I know all that.
@@5hadœwbånnedbyyou Bro…You the one said you was only 5…🤣
You lose 20% of your intelligence when you get shot/upset about something. Dropping free game. It’s the same way with me and women. I got cheated on twice and don’t trust no woman now. I probably have missed out on my wife but any time I start dating somebody if she do anything that look funny or iffy I ghost her with the quickness. Nobody is born with paranoia, not being able to trust, or not giving a fck. That comes from bad experiences dealing with people you thought had you in their best interest and they show you once or sometimes multiple times how much they value you or think of you.
You nailed it I feel the same and gone through the same,
We friends now
I agree
💯💯
You need therapy.
Tupac was more mad that Stretch was moving different AFTER the shooting, hanging out with Biggie afterward, tryna holla at Tupac’s lady, BOTH Tupac’s ladies, so i feel why Stretch went out the way he did exactly 1 year after the Quad Studios shooting of Tupac🤷🏾♀️
That's just as crazy as Pac and BIG dying the same way, that Stretch got hit up exactly a year later
Stretch did not setup 2pac. and pac never said he did. He said he knew about it. Pac never blamed anyone besides jimmy henchman,jack,tut. Every body else was blamed for knowing about it and not saying anything.
Knowing and not saying nothing that’s not a homie !!!
Facts
@@415folife9 Facts
How you know you act like you was around these dudes you going off of stories you heard stop it bruh 🤣
They told him to stay away from Jack n Jimmy from the jump tho.
Much respect to the artists that put out music for the love of it. Old school artists used to make an album and put it out. Hit or miss. Sometimes they had two songs tops that would get play. Sometimes the song wouldn't be tight until the remix. Now it's forced, "...you gotta like this because they always say some of the wall sh*#." Nothing wrong with one hit wonders or making two albums and hanging it up. If it's good, it'll be remembered.
Blacks have same crab n barrel mentality since slavery. Katt Williams is trending because Hollywood actors, comedians have the spirit of jealousy toward one another.
imma be honest. Spice just talking. How you mix up Treach with Stretch?
Easy
High
Easy, fredo star just did it..a few days ago on vladtv
@@user-cq5fj6fr1u naw
@@user-cq5fj6fr1u haha
Stretch was from Queens.
Art always get spice when he ready to spark that B cho!lol
Scientifically, you lose 20% Of your intelligence when you pissed off
... Spice 1 💯
This is confusing and needs to be corrected
He changed the year bout two or three times 🙄🤣
Stretch is from queens not New Jersey stop letting ppl lie to you art
I think he was meaning Treach from Naughty and mistaking him for Stretch lol gotta remember niggas recalling shit from 30yrs ago 😂😂😂😂
Gotta remember he high lol
@@user-cq5fj6fr1u right he then rolled about 3 blunts throughout these interviews 😂😂
I was thinking the same thing. Like isn’t Stretch from Queens. 🤔
@@nvjaso damn...
Stretch was still around PAC’s family in New York.
That's crazy
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 yes it makes sense that they were damn near family since Pac was Stretch daughter’s godfather
Who's his family then? Can you name them or are you just talking?
@@anthony12861 Gloria Cox, Afeni Shakur, Billy Lesane, Yaasmyn Fula To ñame a few. The myth that it was some real beef was hype. U notice Pac never scream Stretch name like he did everyone else. They were really family. Pac was Stretch daughter’s godfather. That east Vs west and Pac becoming a west coast nigga was all hype and good marketing. Most of the ppl that Pac had around him even after prison was New Yorkers for the most part. Pac didn’t even really have family in California. He should’ve stayed his ass in NY. Look at Majesty Walker’s interview. That nigga Dexter Isaac was cappin.
2pac was the godfather of stretch daughter. They were close
Spice 1 capping😂😂 big stretch was from queens and big stretch was definitely guilty plus running with Jimmy henchmen who confessed setting 👑 tupac 👑 up! One of the robbers said big stretch was giving Jimmy henchmen there moves play by play leading up to the shooting!
Hes confusing Treach and Stretch
Jimmy is from Brooklyn. Stretch is from a Crew from the Northside of Queens. The dude that said Stretch was feeding them info also said that none of the hired guns shot one bullet in Tupac. You either have to believe all or none, cant pick and choose.
@@tonewopn8275 tonewop stop capping weirdo nobody ask you where there from😂 the shooter that confessed didn't mention the number of shots 😂 he was apologizing for his involvement & exposing coward Jimmy henchmen for setting 👑 tupac 👑 up & coward big stretch selling 👑 tupac 👑 out! Then he made a comment want speak on biggie😂😂 obvious Biggie he's involved too why make a comment like that if he not involved😂😂
Jimmy did not admit to this
@@3ng0w 😂😂 Jimmy rat henchmen absolutely confessed do your research Google it😂 Jimmy henchmen confessed to see if it helps his life sentence 🙏
Is he getting Treach and Stretch mixed up??
I believe so
That’s a high possibility because Treach is definitely from Jerz
👍
I would have to agree
Art: oh shit... *deletes video*
I wonder if anyone can find the video lol. But he’s not getting treach mixed up. I’m pretty sure he’ll know the difference. He just got the place where stretch from mixed up
I think he was talking about game of survival. That shit was hard. Like the first mini rap movies
Stretch from ny
Jersey ... I thought Stretch was from Queens.
He is from Queens. Ran with a clique called Young Guns/ YGs
Stretch is from Queens live squad
NO YOUNG ONES, NIGGA IS FROM JERSEY. 💯✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 MY APOLOGIES!!! WHO THE FUCK IS STRETCH!!! NOT TREACH!!! DAT NAUGHTY NIGGA FROM JERSEY!!! NEW JERSEY DRIVE SOUNDTRACK!!! I GOT MINEZ!!! 🤣🤣🤣✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
When u from Texas originally and grew up in California and u over 50 and been smoking for years....he from New Jersey!🤣🤣
@@christopherrobinson1219 lmfao
Listen to “Holla At Me” off All Eyez on Me..definitely talkin bout Stretch
This was in 91 dude, like like, 90 or some shit, 89!!! Fucking hell Spice get your story together bro
😂😂
Ha
Spice just trying to cop a check
He’s mixing up stories with Treach & Stretch Stretch from Queens Shadyville ⚡️✊🏿⚡️
Sherm
Spice seems to be way of almost everything
Weed lol
@@kefkahkefkah pretty much, thtz bc he wasn't homies wit stretch, jus knew him thru pac, sayin he from jersey, is tha 1st flag, then he was asked have u been round stretch, his answer (spice), was like yea one or two times, 2nd red flag, basically if you listen 2 spice he really didn't kno stretch b4 pac, he jus was up on some of stretches music b4 pac knew bc of tha tape he sent him!!! bc if y'all was kool like tht then he would have been round stretch mo than some 2 or 3 times, especially and you affiliate ya self wit pac!!! does tht make sense??
@@kefkahkefkah haha
Keep in mind that Pac was Stretch daughter’s godfather
So what?🤷🏿♂️
Doesn't mean anything - no point to that statement at all??
King kill Abel Julius Caesar was killed by his best friend Brutus Jesus was set up by his own disciples
He trying 2 say they were close friends that's y Pac is the Godfather of Stretch kid then all that shit happened
@@law8562 everyone knows that already man and knows the whole story
STRETCH IS FROM QUEENS NY
Spice 1 be capn
spice is spitting facts and truth fr fr.
"Everyone got an opinion on what happend and im the one with the bullet holes." - 2pac
Used to think Pac was reaching about Stretch setting him up till the dude that robbed Tupac did an interview from prison saying Stretch set up the whole thing, where they were etc. Foul shit.
If that’s true that’s some crazy shit he asked pac to godfather one of his kids wow
@@ThePrayingDon RUclips Dexter Isaac
So why did pac include everybody else that had nothing to do with it? Pac was smart he was just dangerous with the female tendencies, saying shit back and forth stirring up shit with people who didn’t shit to do with his issues. Playing 48 laws of power with no guidance on the knowledge is what got him hurt and a lot of other people hurt
@@Rajt828if he displayed "female tendencies " as you call them, then there are PLENTY of men that do that. I really wish you brothers that spew that would stop it!! He was human and showed human traits. People talk about jealousy as being a "female trait," once again that's a human trait. I have plenty of friends that swear they're players and don't care, that is when it suits them, but I've witnessed the " I don't care" show jealousy on several occasions. As several rappers have said in their lyrics, " you will let a person short you on some work, but kill them over a woman." That sounds like jealousy to me. 😆 🤣
@@anthonybrooks1559 you can’t take what I said and turn it into a whole other topic on what you see and feel about your homeboys. The boy played back and forth used people against each other and got his self killed pac wasn’t no gangster he was just another lost ni&&a !
That goes to show you how influential pac was that even after his death yearrrssss later dudes hating !!!
Factz 💎💯
Stretch knew what was going down. Stretch is a frienemy of Tupac, 803
The 90s era is unforgettable.
Fuckin right man!
I was the perfect age to catch it all. I was born in 80.
Saw the 80s, experienced the 90s, and I was literally 20 in the 2000. Can't beat it
@@christopherrobinson1219 yep two years behind you
@@christopherrobinson1219 1974 I made my debut. So I definitely caught it all. Some good times, interesting times, innocent times, not so innocent times. The whole shabang!
@@magkatcar yes. And we had both worlds. The analog and we witnessed the digital one come into existence. It truly makes us a very unique generation. We sit at the intersection of the old world and the new!
@@christopherrobinson1219 You are absolutely right about that. That is a very unique characteristic about our generation that I love. We know of a world before and after, therefore we have a really good comparison value. It also makes us much more level headed dealing with this digitized world.
That wasn't it Stretch was acting funny style not going to see Pac after he was shot and was saying some slick shot about Pac shooting himself.
Plus Pac side chic Desiree Smith confirmed Stretch was trying to hit on her and kicking it with Pac's enemies
Only bad thing stretch did was try to get with 2pac girl... everything else seems like he said she said, nd from what stretch brother said they didn't have State IDs so that was one reason they couldn't go visit 2pac
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 why is your weak ass always trollin me? Stretch would get on with Biggie ... well the shit backfired and Junior Mafia just used Live Squad/YGs to screw over Pac not backin him , and Strecth never got a deal with Bad Boy
fuck out of here about State IDs , Pac was trying to make calls to them dudes and they never got back nor did they make calls to him in Rikers...
Stretch was saying stupid shit about Pac shootin himself which was untrue and getting at your girl is enough to get slumped...
Stretch was with after he got shot til he turned himself in he couldn’t go on the visit he gave Bags and Freddie money to put on his books then that Vibe article came out with Pac talking crazy
@@MrWARBUCKS24 no he wasn't there when Pac was shot . You don't even have to go on a visit in to get into get into contact with someone
.Stretch nor Live Squad were answering Pac calls nor callin for Pac so that stupid shit you nikkas are running with from Maj and them don't mean nothing.
fuck out of here with that money on books shit...
They didn’t have ID’s so they couldn’t visit Pac. Nickels who was shot with PAC that night and E Money Bags went to see PAC because they had ID’s. They told Pac what happened and reminded Pac about Cease coming downstairs to meet him and got backed into the elevator. Pac didn’t remember that. And then Pac told them he already did the Vibe article blaming everyone.
They broke his mental. So he gave them a real reason to hate him
Agree
Big stretch is from New York queens bro in my hood
That Bo Jackson jersey goes hard. I need that.
Listen closely to Stretch verse in Representing for Ron G. That verse always sruck out to me. Song was recorded a few hours before the Quad studio shooting & it sounds like he's talking about that situation
Didn't Spice 1 have his own career🤔🤔
this literally all about Pac and Spice a poor story teller
@@A_Dubb618 Yep!!!! Im glad im not the only person that see thru his bullshit😐😐
@@shawtyeatemup1352 him and Pac was boys but I think he added extra sauce with shit
@@shawtyeatemup1352 I remember Spice said the reason he didn't go to Vegas with Pac is because he had clothes on for 3 days straight and didn't shower. I'm like, nigga, you mean to tell me you couldn't shower and buy clothes when you get there? Yea aight, it's only a Tyson fight, ok
Yes but he was independent so if he sold 100,000 copies he would make just as much as someone who was to sell a million
I thought Stretch was from Queens NYC, but it's news to me that Spice 1 Knew him before he met Pac.
Quick note: Treach from naughty by nature from New Jersey
Stretch from Live squad is from Queens
It always boggles my mind how men who live the street life are shocked that they've been shot.
Stretch was a fake friend
Treach Is from Jersey but I believe Stretch is from New York
I can never get tired of listening to anything that concerns 2pac, that man lives on
Same here people got there head so far up they ass that they can’t admit he was a great man
@smellysolesonly he's mentally ill just ignore the poor dude. He needs meds.
I've never understood why people sit around sipping on alcohol?? Like, why?? You just FOOKIN your insides up... worst than sitting around sipping coca cola or any type of soda...
Is t Stretch from Queens?
Yes he is from queens ny
Spice talking bout Science ...
For those that believe in the Bible, it's ALWAYS the ones closest to you that will betray you like Judas did to Jesus! Your enemy is your enemy so you Already know they'll do anything treacherous to you off the strength!
Trust no man
Stretch is from Queens. Treach from Naughty By Nature is from Jersey.
Trauma makes people act different...so I get after pac got shot 5 times he did start acting paranoid.
I think Pac knew who did it before he passed and he a clear pic of how the set up went down and who the individuals were
Listen to Against All Oddz. Pac knew it was Jimmy Henchmen, Haitian Jack and Tut. He knew Big and Stretch weren’t crossing him. They loved him. Stretch ‘s daughter is PAC’s goddaughter
He knew who it was from jump street. Accused Jimmy right at Quad the same night.
@@kevingordon-cruz202 but he still chose to diss them... 2pac man groupies will still make excuses for him
How come he didn't do anything instead of going against Biggie
@@mayankingrevisited8815 I’ve always asked myself that too. Pac started listening to all the rumors. It was Clive Davis and Puff that released Who Shot Ya. It was bad timing. I wish Pac and Big would’ve resolved that issue. It was a senseless death of both. They were really good friends
Man I’m tired of these bedtime 2pac stories it’s 2022 let that man rest
That wasn’t the answer he was looking for he was tight ! 😂
“ No, Not At All, I’m not gonna knock the dust off that!” 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
This dude laughs and giggles like he don’t respect or care bout what he’s being interviewed about and the folks In it.
😂😂
He a legend
No he laughs like that's how he deals with the reality of what he's saying. As a person that smiles a lot, I'm here to tell you that that's just some people's way of dealing with reality. It's called being optimistic.
No, it's called being neurotic
@@sanzrich9887 damn
Blaming Everyone,All While Knowing Who Shot Him
Exactly
I dont know how it works in the east coast but on the west if one of my folks get popped and it was a set up its protocol to tap in immediately and get to the bottom of it. Not only did Big not tap in but he released who shot ya while he was in prison. Thats what set Pac in motion and led to him murdering Biggie on wax with Hit em up. Pac Knew Biggie didnt set him up. Big aint tap in to clear the air or help him figure out what happened. Domt know if u been shot before but u get paranoid af so that was a big part if it. All big had to do was teach out and have a conversation. He actually should of went n visited n prison. Thsts wat a real homie who of done.
@@knowthyselfinstitute FACT
That's a coward
@@mayankingrevisited8815 facts
Rest easy Pac 🙏🏾, 803
New Jersey? Spice is mixed up and the interviewer is just as lost for not saying anything 🤦♂️
Facts, Pac even spoke it. “Let the real live niggas hear the truth of me. What would you do if you was me, nigga” Folks talk shit before being empathetic
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 Orlando also got lit up by someone that was the real crip truth. Many many bad MF’ers has gotten lit up.
He was a ballerina bro with dyed hair and one piercing on his ear .. man was ina tutu hit jail and turned gangsta to sell records that’s why his first albums no one’s talks about them he wasn’t no thug on them
@@fabolousjada5070 Who are you? What impact you’re making on the World?
If I’m not mistaken. I believe Big Stretch from Queens. Wasn’t him brother E money bags? Which I know for sure from Queens
Stretch from the Live Squad is From Queens. Plus Stretch had nothing to do with Pac shooting.
He dont know he west coast
There was more to 2Pac then his death and time at Death Row. You need to get DJ Daryl on here!! Then you’ll be able to get the Genesis of Oakland / Bay Area Gangster rap!!! DJ ‘D’ produced records for EVERYBODY!! You hear how Snoop got his sound from 415……. Who produced his album when he went to No Limits? There’s A Lot of history and DJ Daryl is the connection!!!
That would be cool
To me he's the most underrated producer out there him and E-A Ski
415 was the shit when Double R was a member.
Did he say “Scientifically” that shit was hella smart!
Stretch and Live Squad are from Queens, New York. Spice may have been thinking about Trech while saying Stretch.
I was thinking the same thing
@@Antoinedunaway Weed 😄 He is talking about Stretch though cause Stretch started in 19i88.
Right. The interviewer got to take blame too, because he just interviewed stretch brother months ago. How yall let that slip smh.
5:34 Body language
Pac blaming everyone including Biggie who had nothing to do with his mess.
Facts
Stretch is from Hollis, Queens
That smoke must be iiiiight!
Why did stretch need to set Pac up? Jimmy and pac were in communication the whole time. They had their own arrangements to meet at the studio
Because Stretch was gonna be there and they didn't want him to get involved helping Tupac so they paid him to stand down and keep watch
@@micahwest2793 what could Stretch do against those stick up kids?
Pac said Stretch kept asking to hold the gun. This led Pac to believe Stretch was in on it after not putting up a fight during the robbery.
Pac knew something might go down, because he called Jack a groupie, and questioned why he had a separate trial to a news reporter days pior.
On top of Pac's disrespect, he owed Jack money, and needed money. So he had to be there to do the song.
@@rustyjames5000 it makes since for Haitian jack to send dudes to smack 2 pac up for dissing him. What doesn't make since is Jimmy henchmen involvement. What does he have to do with this rape situation/beef between 2 pac and Haitian jack?
@@user-cq5fj6fr1u Jack and Jimmy worked together, and where part of the same crew. They weren't just gangsters. They had powerful ties, and business relations with the industry.
Jack had his hand in BIg's label, and Jimmy worked under Puff.
I wish that he would told who it was that killed jam master Jay cuz that was a mystery when I watched the celebrity crime files on jam master Jay on TVone 12 YEARS AGO and the guy from onyx said on that interview that it would come to light one day. Jasmine Guy even said on a video that Big stretch tried to get with her behind 2pacs back and that was FOUL on his part.
The man who did it in jail
Spice is definitely one of the good friends
Sounds like people in prison were feeding him all kinds of conspiracies. A lot went down in a short time between the shooting, the trial, conviction & getting locked up. And then the co-defendant had a separate trial so it looked like they were in on setting him up with that. IDK anything about the Stretch situation but it must've been a lot with all that other stuff going on. And then Wendy Williams was out here saying he got raped in there. He refused to be in protective custody in there so who knows? But that's a horrific thing to say about somebody... indefensible. No wonder he went berserk after that period.
Jack got a separate case because the gun charge Jack never went to trial he cop’d to the sexual assault 2Pac could’ve done the same but he went to trial so when he was yelling why is he the only one trial well because the other 2 niggas plead guilty and got probation
FFS he accidentally said New Jersey instead of New York and everybody all up in here with their panties in a twist...get a grip.
Stretch would use jargon like "got that mail".... which I wonder who started it first cause I of course heard Spice say it first year's ago..... buy maybe he got it from Live Squad nem
Stretch was not from NJ ..duck is you talmbout Spice!!
Stretch not from Jersey … he from Queens…
Facts
What should have been the real Outlaws; Kadafi, Treach, Spice 1.....(please add on to this list)
Jersey?! I thought Stretch was from Queens.
He’s clearly high and thought Treach
Yall must be young Spice one speaking Truth Pac dropped Stretch from the group, Stretch brother got a intview on RUclips saying the same thing
Pac dropped the whole group except Mopreme and Syke they got dropped later after all eyez on me
My 1st gangsta 💿 was a Spice one 💿. I learned then how real it was out here♣️
That sounds like what Biggie said he might be in on the plot
I think spice was thing of treach there for a minute when he said he was from New Jersey
This nigga on Vladtv and art at same damn time
Spice 1 Tupac Stories are Classic AF. He helps you visualize the entire situation like you were there yourself. 💯
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 I hope they don't cut your crazy check off lmaoooo
Pac was in a heated discussion over 8k he was supposed to be paid by Jimmy Henchman to be on a little shawn song. He did not want a check, he wanted cash, and after the remarks about "hanger ons", was an insult. He knew who banged him. Kill the noise... Stretch didn't worm pac...
Pac said they dropped like sack of potatoes
stretch is not from new jersey..he is from nyc
2pac blamed me and I wasn't even born yet.
Stop capping
@@ivy8252 he not l was there
@@superellijahify and you expect me to believe you 🙄🙄 GTFOH
@@3rdGenerationCancer am a black African woman and I love tupac and if you have problem with that you should go hug a transformer
@@3rdGenerationCancer I don't see why what I do should be your business. I just pray you don't get betrayed by some one you showed love, shot at, lied on and go to jail for you did not do. Just pray that don't happen to you. Peace!!
“How did I get shot?” Meanwhile rapping about shooting and condoning death to black people.
I don't put nothing pass anyone
My favorite rapper og
SPIIIIICE!!!!! Again with the misinformation. Isn't Stretch from NY? I don't believe Spice-1 was a artist with releases until 92. Why would Stretch seek him out? EVERYBODY gotta tell a story to make themselves BIGGER than they really are. ©2022
Nah 187 proof dropped in 91 off of his let it be known ep he jus put it on the album that dropped in 92 also
@@darkprofit1137 EP don't count. No One really got the memo on a breakout artist starting with an EP. Til this day I have NEVER heard that EP as a Spice-1 fan. So as I said before he didn't drop an ALBUM until 92. Spice-1 wasn't in the rap game like that in 89. Like I also said, he does ALOT of EXAGGERATING!! Come on son. ©2022
@@kevinfarries5726 but he was brought up by too short bra who been in the game before 89, so tapes were sent via email and stuff spice 1 had play in Japan even bro, he also had songs with Wu Tang bra, he been around.
@@UTFapollomarine7409 DAMN YOU MUST BE YOUNG!!!! Wasn't NOBODY using Email back then. And most certainly not with tapes. COME ON SON!!And Too- Short was out before 89. Man when y'all youngsters get on here, do some research FIRST!!! Y'all have the INTERNET these days AND STILL CAN'T GET FACTS STRAIGHT!! I had ALL that music ON TAPES back then. Spice-1 wasn't known until 91/92 when his first album dropped. That EP doesn't count. That was mainly circulated in the Bay. PLUS!!!! East Coast rappers were NOT supporting West Coast rappers back then. FACTS!!!! ©2022
@@kevinfarries5726 you tripping I'm 30 years old.
Stretch from Queens !
How elegant this man is. He must have studied English in college.
Spice one is a liar stretch is from queens not New Jersey
He gota be talking bout treach
The joke is 2pac knew exactly who shot him
I got shot on several occasions & I was outside right away … so nah erbody don’t be wondering.. it’s get back time
Bo jackson raiders jersey nice!!!!!
Spice need to be on talib kwlie show
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he must be talking about treach. he's from new jersey and his name rhymes with stretch