I just re-watched Season 6, and it was pretty good for the most part. Certainly better than Season 4 (which was atrocious) ... and probably better than Season 5. Nowhere near the quality of Seasons 2 & 3, but that bar is so high -- Community Seasons 2 & 3 are probably the two best seasons of a TV comedy ever. Season 2 was the best, but Season 3's episode, as mentioned here, Remedial Chaos Theory is probably the best episode of any comedy I've ever seen. Meanwhile, Arrested Development just couldn't hold my interest in its final seasons -- despite being great in its earlier seasons.
yall remember in season 2 of community when shirley gave birth in anthropology class? abed stated that he had helped deliver a baby in the back of an suv before. a few episodes before that, while jeff was saying something, you could see someone giving birth in the back of an suv far away in the background... this show is insane
Daniel Cui shirley giving birth - s2ep22 abed delivering a baby in the background - s2ep3 it was super subtle but the amount of details this show has is insane, i love it so much. all throughout the episode u can see abed in the background with the pregnant woman
drowsiella and at the end of that episode Shirley asked abed what he had been up to that day and he just said nothing much like he hadn’t just delivered a child
Never noticed that before, but I also just found that that background story goes back even further. In S2:E3, you see that couple with Abed about 3 times in the background leading up to the birth. You also see that same couple in the background of episode 11, season 1. When the announcement comes to not use the condoms because they're faulty, you see the guy throw the condom away.
But on a serious note, Jeff stopped being a straightman midway through season 1. He did plently of things that were just as quirky as everyone else, where he and Michael are not alike at all. Overally you really really can't compare the 2 because Community is frickin amazing and Arrested Development is an overrated piece of crap.
Milap Mehta oh really!! I’ve never seen arrested dev but I was planning on starting since there’s a lot of crossover fans with community, is it that bad?
@@RomanZolanski123 If you're planning on watching it, I won't spoil any specific jokes. In short, they do a terrible job setting up their jokes. Judy Geller from Friends is an example of a well written mom who talks down to her kid because she's super nice to the other. Lucille Bluthe is really mean to everyone so her bad mom jokes don't work. Gob and Buster are both man childs. There is absolutely no need for both. The jokes with Lyndsey are super inconsistent with her sometimes being perceived as hot and sometimes being ignored. Her gay jokes don't work because Lyndsey is a caricature and nothing like the actress, Portia de Rossi. Portia's real life being ironic to the show is probably a reference of the joke in Ocean's Eleven where the press don't recognize Brad Pitt and George Clooney, but poorly done. Community did an awesome job of making fun of incest in season 6. Arrested Development did a terrible job writing Maybe and George Michael's incestuous romance. Tobias Funke is the only funny character, and even he is poorly written for many episodes.
drew describing jeff as the straight man of community is so insane to me because jeff is maybe the straight man in season one but he gets REAL crazy as time goes on
I believe arrested development is failing right now. But community season 1-3 were amazing season 4 was a flop and 5-6 were good just not as good as the first three
@@parkxtra5901 The later seasons suffered from season 4 a lot. Bad writing pushed the show in a direction that had to be retconned, and a majority of the talent left as the ratings dropped. Hell, even Chevy Chase leaving was a bummer.
The Dean from Community is exactly the type of character that I would typically hate and get annoyed of very quickly (not exactly part of the "main crew" but still gets a lot of screen time) but honestly he's such a well-written character that I can't help but love him with my whole heart lol
me too friend. I recommend this show to everyone but I don't recommend them to binge it cause we all start to care about these characters so quickly.. honestly I don't wanna watch the final season because Troy was my favorite character in the entire show
@@deactivatedperson3759 Peirce was a douche but he was one of the main characters, and it was nice to see him grow and become a better person because of the group
That’s the main reason of why I didn’t like season 6. The addition of Elroy and Frankie to the group feel so unnatural and forced. At least season 5 had Ian Duncan who had been on the show previously so it didn’t look strange seeing him with the rest of the group and also Hickey had a good chemistry with the rest of the characters and he was really funny sometimes. Not to mention that at least Troy was on the first 5 episodes and shirley was on all of them.
Season 1 of Community deadass has one of the funniest bits of dialogue in any show ever. "You're a football player! It's in your blood!" --"That's racist." "Your soul." --"That's racist." "Your eyes?" --"That's gay." "That's homophobic." --"That's black." " _That's_ racist."
as much as i wouldve loved these shows during their respective runs, i literally cannot imagine watching these shows on serialized network television. they are absolute gold in a streamable format. these shows are so ahead of their time it’s scary.
Community is now on Netflix and is literally more famous now than it ever was... Netflix has contracts with Alison Brie (GLOW), Joel McHale (his own show) and Ken Jeong (his own stand up special)... Donald Glover, the Russo brothers and Dan Harmon are some of the most beloved celebrities in the world nowadays... I think it's time we got our movie. And it's better be called *_AND A MOVIE_*
The biggest hurdles to climb for a theoretical Community movie are not getting Netflix (or whatever other service) to pony up the production budget and distribution, nor is it corralling the primary cast at the same time for it (& yes, I'm including Donald Glover in that sentiment, even though he's already produced two more albums and written a movie in the time since I started this paragraph). Hell the Russos have even made it pretty clear they'd happily produce & direct it. BY FAR the biggest detail that fans seem to be sleeping on is Dan Harmon knocking out a feature length script. Sure, it's very likely a few of the series' other big writers would also be involved, ultimately it comes down to being Harmon's baby. He's talked about this a couple different times now, for one he's veeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry skeptical (especially all the more time's now passed) he'd be able to cook something up to high enough quality to feel worth doing it. He's terrified of it sucking. But just even on the more practical side, anyone who knows much about how Harmon works knows he doesn't typically finish anything even close to quickly. He procrastinates like a motherfucker. And, in tandem with that same point, he's still got lots more of Rick & Morty he has to crank out for the foreseeable future. Trust me, I'd never be so happy to wind up being so thoroughly wrong about everything here, but I kinda don't think I will be. I fucking adore this show beyond reason, but I made peace awhile ago now with not ever getting a movie.
right?! like, did yahoo not realise how ultimately unimportant they were? i know they're one of the biggest search engines, but that really isn't saying much considering the near monopoly Google has on the internet. i dont know anybody who uses yahoo, and aside from yahoo answers (which has basically been replaced by Quora) i dont think ive ever seen anyone really use it even 20 years ago Yahoo Screen is as crazy as the idea of a Bing streaming service. But hey, at least Andrew Garfield's Spiderman and Xbox users use Bing...
Donald Glover had such a talent for delivering his lines in the best comedic way possible. It makes sense he’s had so much success after leaving the show he was probably the most talented actor in the cast.
"Uruguay sounds like your gay" I was happy to see Uruguay on the show, and that line came so out of nowhere that it made me laugh for 2 straight minutes
This is honestly why I’m so relieved the creators of The Good Place are purposely stopping after their 4th season to maintain the integrity of the plot line.
@@BleedingLiar17 it is but don't you find they are dragging it out with random backstories and side plots that we don't need? And that the whole test they do in season 4 regarding whether humans can improve is irrelevant to the actual finding that the society with live in has rendered the point system ineffective? Lots of big ideas being lost in dragged out episodes
@@bencollier6432 you're very right about that. I also feel like theyre scared to take risks with some concepts. I did feel like season 3 had unnecessary side plots which diverged from the plot. I also found eleanor and chidi always being torn apart starting to get quite frustrating, which now makes me glad it'll end in s4 because i dont think i could handle it happening for a 4th time. I kinda wish the first seasons were longer, it'd help adjust to all the new characters being added but it's a comedy I guess. Cant expect more plot there. I did like the point system being rendered useless tho, i guess i like watching characters get frustrated and finding out that there's more to the plot/world than the characters are aware of
One of my favorite gags of Arrested Development was when they were about to be cancelled in the final season and had a whole episode centered around switching family companies (networks), and they brought up the "Home Buyers Organization" (HBO) and Showtime and a few others. Plus the narrator mentioning every two mins to "tell your friends to watch this". Iconic
I know the show generally got worse later on but the one thing that did get better as it went on was the narrator. His meta jokes are super clever and funny, the guy obviously did an amazing job
I just finished watching season 2 and there’s an episode that begins with Michael hearing that an agreement the Bluth company had was altered and they now were only scheduled to build 18 houses instead of 22. The first season of the show had 22 episodes, but the second only got 18. I’ve seen this show so many times, but this was the first time I noticed that this was a meta joke about Fox shortening their season.
and how they had the Dean make a big deal about not busting into a room in costume for a whole semester, by busting into a room in many costumes at once xD
Alternate take: If giving Community a 6th season killed Yahoo Screen, that is a net win for the world. Let’s be honest: there is no scenario of Yahoo Screen spending that 42 million differently where it would have been better spent. The platform died blowing its wad on something great, rather than throwing those 42 million dollars it had no business possessing in the first place in a wood chipper.
Yahoo Screen was flawed from the start. They signed no major studios or production companies to get content and they only produced a handful of their own original content. No streaming service is going to survive with that. The business model was just absurd. Unlike Paramount, Peacock, HBO Max it didn't have a huge back catalogue or a broadcast tv station or cable channel to also carry the content and it didn't spent anywhere near the money Netflix, Apple or Amazon did to produce a large array of original shows. And this video is wrong when it says Community alone cost Yahoo Screen $42 million. That $42 million was what they lost across all their original shows, just not Community.
The biggest tragedy with season 6 is that we only had Frankie and Elroy for so little screen time. Despite their short appearance, they were really fun and interesting characters, Frankie especially.
To anyone watching this. Do NOT watch Remedial Chaos Theory as the first episode, just watch some mid tier episodes first. Community's comedy is heavily based on the characters in the show, and watching an episode without understanding the characters and their dynamic simply just makes it far less enjoyable. Speaking from experience as someone who did watch it first, then watched other episodes and then watched it again to enjoy it much more, but be slightly disappointed I didn't watch it for the first time
@@greentaigo2552 Especially considering how part of the brilliance and originality of Community is that they almost practically have a serialized basic cable hour long genre-level of mythology... that's put into a half hour network comedy. which reminds me, I genuinely know a certain few people in my life that follow and adore Community and The Big Bang Theory the exact same amount. like, I never even know where to begin in just trying to unpack that notion.
Odd that you say that, since I accidentally, randomly watched Remedial Chaos Theory when replayed on tv years ago - that was what spurred me on to watch the whole series
Jeff seems like a straight man at first but over time you’ll see that he’s a very well thought out character with deep flaws in insecurities which he hides with sarcasm and humour
He's also usually part of the antics, rather than looking in from the outside. That's part of why Community is so uniquely chaotic-- it *has* no "straight man"
Though two of these shows were already used in a video. I would kind of like to see how Drew breaks down: 1. The Office vs. Parks and Rec 2. Seinfeld vs. Friends
Parks and Rec & Seinfeld. Parks and Rec was just better IMO, if you like The Office, you do you. But Seinfeld is better than FRIENDS all the way and no one can change my mind
@Ethan you're kidding yourself if you really believe parks & rec is better than the office. That, or you watched p&r first and have a bias toward it. Parks and recreation's humor is so much more explicit in its delivery, like a watered down brooklyn 9-9 (which actually makes it better than b99). The office does everything p&r tries to replicate so much better without being too over-the-top with it.
AND NOW WE'RE GETTING OUR MOVIE!!! Community is probably one of if not my favourite show of all time. Even the "gas leak year" season had its good moments.
Herstory of Dance is legitimately a wonderful episode. The puppet episode however is the worst thing I've ever seen. Season 4 was certainly... a season of television
Basic Human Anatomy (E11) was the only episode that made me smile in S4 (coincidence that this is the ep where Troy and Britta split? probably not). the puppet one was godawful but the haunted house one (E2) is a close second for worst piece of garbage
Update: Community is now on Netflix. I’m binge watching. And it’s great but... what ever happened to legos? You know what I’m talking about legos are simple. Harry Potter Legos, Star Wars Legos. Complicated kits, tiny little blocks. I’m not saying it’s bad but what happened?
Not Your Mom what is funny is that when Troy leaves to get the pizza in “Remedial Chaos Theory” that is the darkest timeline. The foreshadowing is real.
also in season 4 they turned abed into a sort of emotionless robot when they previously established that he has a lot of emotions and her just expresses them much differently. he went from this sweet, analytical and self-aware character to just an asshole
I didn't like how they made him go full on nonverbal over a TV show cancellation. Both because it's kind of degrading to see as an autistic person and because it led to one of my least favorite parts of the show, Inspector Spacetime.
@@MissedBandwagon that and the season 5 finale were really well done from Harmon. I think it could be argued that Abed was used as somewhat of a crutch in season 4 to deliver pop culture references in an almost robotic way instead of weaving it into visuals or likewise, and these episodes did well at addressing Abed's tendencies (as did lots of S6!)
i think it's probably because abed is definitely aspergers coded and dan harmon himself has aspergers, so when he was fired, and the new writers were hired, they weren't able to write him properly and he came across super flat
"Virgin nerd guy say smart thing" and "two hot girl do dumb job" * _hilarity ensues_ * Probably exactly how these shows were presented to their respective networks.
I think the downfall of arrested development is that it didnt have broad appeal in the first few seasons, and honestly if you had binged the whole 4th season(before the re-edit) like one really long episode it was great. The payoff of the first tobias episode made the first lindsay episode hilarious in retrospect.
@@development_arrested I agree I do not like the edit of season 4 into neat little episodes. I watched it when it first came out and really liked the whole each character gets an episode
I fully agree. I’ve seen so many amazing sitcoms, but the first two seasons of Arrested Development are actually perfect. It’s not my #1 sitcom, but I think it’s genuinely the best
I cried like a little baby. I can’t say it was a good cry because I was genuinely depressed by it but it was... cathartic and final. It made sense and felt real. But it also felt like real friends were going their own ways in life like when I graduated my community college and transferred
@@maahierabrahams4493 I get it, but I hated that bit with every fiber of my being when I saw it for the first time. It really felt out of place for me.
Community lost 3 main cast members, was canceled once, moved to a shitty streaming service, and still ended up as the best sitcom ever made. That's impressive.
Community sucked ass let’s not kid ourselves it’s one of the shows that gets stale after the first viewing. Watching it a second time you can really figure out what doesn’t work
I’m so so so glad community is finally on Netflix because people are finally going to appreciate it’s majesty and I cannot wait for the movie to finally come along
It did!! I'm from Greece and even here it generates a buzz right now. The quarantine although tragic, gave them that boost they needed. Hopefully the movie is next
That fact that Community’s season 6 was really good, while being moved to Yahoo and without Donald Glover (Troy), Chevy Chase (Pierce) and Yvette Nicole Brown (Shirley) shows just how fucking good Dan Harmon was. And shoutout to Paget Brewster and Keith David, who I thought were both terrific in season 6. I let’s not forget how important the Russo Brothers were to Community. Arrested Development on the other hand was pretty weak on season 4 & 5. It just seemed like none of the actors wanted to do the show anymore. It felt very forced. Which is a shame, because the first 3 seasons of AD are probably the funniest episodes of television ever. Often times when I binge watch AD, and just stop after the 3rd season.
I love season 6, elroy and frankie were amazing, the loss of the shirley, troy and pierce however unfortunate was reflective of life changing. The last episode of the season was amazing, as jeff slowly adopts abeds indulgence into TV being used as a crutch for reality as he's unable to understand or handle it. Until he finally accepts there is no season 7 people change and develop and although he won't be with his friends anymore he still will be able to be happy. He no longer hides behind his cool persona as a way to prevent other from seeing his insecurities and fear of abandonment and fear of no control. Which was shown to him through the group. As well as Annie growing up from a naive young girl into a assured women ready to start her career and abed going out into the world. I wish Brett had a better ending, kinda feel sorry for her throughout however I did love her interacts with her parents throughout season 6 which somewhat explains her actual behaviour but there's no long term development. Glad Jeff didn't get with Annie too. It was too weird for me. The age gap was too much as well as their maturity gap.
I disagree with your second statement. The actors of AD very much wanted to do the show, even earlier, but the entire cast and production staff had so many problems trying to stay “on the air” while maintaining views due to poor broadcasting management essentially. I think they were just tired of fighting and knew it was time to end. The whole team including the actors still speak very fondly and highly of the show and each other.’
@rabbitman8535 Honestly, even though Chevy Chase was a major dick, I was still sad to see him go. The main 7 are all vital to the show, and even 1 leaving (which ended up being 3..) can make the show not the same. I still liked it afterwards just not as much as the other seasons
My favorite line of dialogue in sitcom history comes from the episode of Community when annie and Jeff run for president, when Dean Pelton asks Pierce what his platform was and he replies "My platform is one high enough to push Vicky off to her death." The first time I watched that I laughed so hard I almost cried, I actually had to pause it and let myself settle down. Just the delivery from Chevy Chase was SO perfect
Isaac Jones That is one of my favourite lines from any show ever as well. Another one of my favourite things in Community is later in that episode, when Vicki left the race for president and Pierce leaves because he only wanted to bully Vicki.
I think the line that might be my favorite of the show is in S1 when Annie tells Jeff that, in high school, she was so unpopular that "the crossing guard would lure her into oncoming traffic." That was the first time I was laughing at one line for almost the entire rest of the episode.
@@pance_9912 mine was Duncan at the dance when he put mustard on his face. I had seen JO on LWT before community, and it was so funny imagining JO from LWT doing that
Remedial Chaos Theory is best enjoyed when you already know these characters and their dynamics with each other. I wouldn’t start with it. If you aren’t planning to binge watch the entire series, I’d recommend starting with something like Contemporary American Poultry. It’s the first full dive into genre homage for an entire episode and it’s not quite as insane as Remedial Chaos Theory. It’ll give you a better feel for what to expect from the series as a whole.
Yah I don’t think the first episode is a great intro to the show, it literally has a different really generic theme song than the rest of the show and other than Jeff and Britta, the characters are kind of ignored and not realized yet.
Ironically, that actually was the first episode of the show I ever saw, before I even knew what it was. I was immediately pulled in by the multiple timelines thing in what seemed like another generic sitcom at first. I didn't end up watching the full show for a few years, but that one always stuck with me and made me feel it was something worth watching, which it was.
Now that Community is on Netflix, I’m extremely thankful that they went through with the final season, even if no one watched when it was initially produced. We can binge all six seasons (and maybe eventually get a movie????)
I found out about it from Watchmojo, it being mentioned in the top 10 TV shows that need to become movies, Star Wars parody episodes, Christmas episodes and out of genre episodes made me curious enough to check it out when I first got Netflix in 2015
No, I have watched Parks and Rec and The Good Place, I saw some videos on YT about a Community and it was too funny. So I looked for where I could watch it. I got Hulu and watched the whole thing in like 3 weeks. I took my time with my first watch.
The problem with Arrested Development in it's original run was that a show like it had a hard time picking up new viewers mid-season. Jokes that were hilarious as callbacks fell flat (or even seemed offputting) for newcomers. The show works best in the streaming era, where you can watch it as a complete work.
S1-3 the best S4 Gas Leak Year S5 Really good comeback S6 Sadder and slowish but ultimately a good wrap-up to the show that solidified it in my top 5 favorite shows ever
Watching it again recently I can't believe just how good the last half of season 6 is. There's some legit classic episodes there. Plus it helps that the finale is kinda flawless
I felt slightly disappointed with season 6, I think it's because there were less different episodes, or if there were different genres editing did not show it.
You never know. Joel McHale stated that the show's growing popularity on Netflix could possibly lead to a movie :) I just hope they get Donald Glover back in any shape or form. I want Troy and Abed back!!
i wish this was true :( altho Dan would be great, what killed me was troy leaving :( and chevy... blah, he was funny but annoyed me a lot, but troy and abed were for me holding the show as high as it was, best storieslines, just doesnt feel the same without them
Dan Harmon was fired for sexual assault so I'd rather take a slightly less well written show than people on set being uncomfortable with their assaulter around
Arrested Development was ahead of its time, Community was sublimely creative. Arrested Development is like a classic concept album, which one has to listen all the way to the finish, full of nuances, hidden symbolism, easter eggs, and brilliant writing. Community is like a feel-good greatest hits pop album, full of standalone hit singles and multiple genres you can enjoy.
Also worth a mention, Community lost a lot of its stellar cast which really messed with the chemistry. The replacement cast was actually quite good, surprisingly, but it never really felt the same in seasons 5 and 6.
I really really liked Frankie. I'm sad we didn't get to see more of her. And Keith David is always great (even if I keep thinking about Gargoyles every time I hear him speak).
I loved Paget Brewster (also love her in criminal minds!), but yeah. Troy was always my favorite character. I don't think they should even bother doing a movie if they can't get Donald Glover for it.
Although losing Troy, Pierce and Shirley hurt the show; Community’s ability to bring in fresh characters that I cared about was pretty epic. I loved Hickey, Elroy and especially Frankie. I thought they each brought their own spin to the group dynamic which I loved!!
Just sucks that Duncan was wasted when he became part of the group, he’s used so sparingly throughout season 5 it’s like they only had him for an hour of filming each episode
@@mrcritical6751 Duncan was supposed to be a main cast member from the very start. Its why he has so much screen time in the first two episodes. Then he got his talk show and relegated to a recurring character.
New characters are cool, season with Hickey is absolutely great but you can't remove that many characters and introduce new ones without breaking the balance of the show. I mean season 6 just finished introducing Frankie and Elroy that the season is over.
Honestly yes! I literally can’t think of one single other show that could handle losing 3 ensemble leads and switching to friggin’ Yahoo Screen with any more dignity than they did. I loved Frankie and Elroy in season 6.
LOVED Arrested Development. I was bummed it was cancelled. Honestly, they waited too long and the ensemble cast couldn't be properly reassembled. RIP Jessica Walters.
I gotta say: I love remedial chaos theory. Probably my favorite episode ever. But I wouldn’t recommend it as a first episode to watch of community. I feel like it’s best watched if you know the characters going in.
@@user-oq6ol5fi2w Oooo cooperative calligraphy is a good choice. I think it’s def good to start with one that’s a little more grounded while still having that community charm. I think environmental science is a great one to show how well the show can balance multiple storylines intersecting.
The DnD episode is my go to when introducing the series. No prior knowledge is needed since they introduce each character in the episode and it shows how weird the show can be, unlike the pilot episode of the series.
As a television student, I have watched Remedial Chaos Theory as lessons for how to write an interwoven narrative. That being said the best episode of community is the one where Chang investigates the matchbook company
Man you just mentioning it made me laugh out loud. That episode was hilarious. Along with Peanut dean rap are some of the most hilarious moments from the show.
God I loved that so much. “Legs that went all the way to the bottom of her torso,” what a line. Chang was such an excellent character. My favourite episode, personally, would have to be a tie between the one where Abed and Troy build a pillow/blanket fort and then start a war or the one where they make a commercial for greendale. Pillows and blankets is not the funniest or the cleverest but I love Troy and Abeds friendship so much and the documentary format is great, and I don’t think documentary filmmaking: redux needs much of an explanation
oooohhh shit documentary filmmaking: redux is maybe my favorite episode of the whole show. the dean is a hilarious character. i also love intermediate documentary filmmaking, with pierce's beaqueathals @@salem-01
The whiplash I get when you start talking about 'Aliens in America' and it transitions from the title sequence, which has a surprising amount of pathos and sympathy for this little space alien student, and learning that it's actually about a Muslim exchange student and playing into Islamophobia, is a bizarre kind of hilarious that brings forth no laughs because my body is in shock.
As a pakistani that really made me feel so sick, also i loved community at first because ive never seen a muslim character like abed on tv ever before and i was so scared they would ruin him
As a white American that lived with 3 Arabian dudes that are still my close friends to this day, I felt second hand embarrassment that show was even a thing.
I think you’re on the money when you say that Arrested Development is a show almost uniquely incompatible with the weekly broadcast format. It’s at its best when you can watch the episodes one after the other, pausing or rewinding at your will. The original is so perfectly suited for Netflix viewing that the shortcomings of the reboot are even more bizarre.
Editing on season 4 and 5 is very, very slow. And there's a lot of subtlety with audio in the first 3 seasons. Many finishing jokes have a lower volume and tracked left or right.
Just a little bit in to season 4 now. The main difference is the jarring lack of pace. The original series had intricately written dialogue and jokes that were delivered at breakneck speed. The combination of running jokes and spontaneity was what gave the dialogue layers, and each of the characters’ storylines would intertwine throughout a single episode. The new episodes feel lethargic in comparison
@@rp1455 Yeah I noticed that. Pretty sure I watched the remixed version, but still. You can go a couple episodes and then we'll get back to a character we haven't seen in a WHILE and be like "oh yeah, THIS main character, huh."
Donald Glover is an oddity wrapped in an enigma and one of the most talented people I’ve ever seen, continues to amaze. Both of these shows are great though
I liked the new cast in community. Frankie quickly became one of my favorite characters. The I'm in charge bc hierarchy and I say so line is one try to use often.
I personally couldn’t stand her. The part where she kept being told by other characters that she was like some of their friends was true. She was a weird melting pot of Abed, Annie, and occasional pieces of Jeff too. She wasn’t unique enough and it annoyed me to no end
You missed even more foreshadowing with Buster looking his hand in arrested development. He Had a large hand chair that he liked early in that season which his mother throws out.
Omg and the arm chair appeared in a later episode when Buster THOUGHT he woke up in mexico but he was actually at their house keepers personal home !!!
Chang and Jeff have a podcast called "The Darkest Timeline" and there was an episode in the last few days. Everyone from the cast was on it (Annie, Shirley, Chang, Jeff, Abed, Troy), INCLUDING Dan Harmon. Of course without Chevy, cause no one likes Chevy - he is an asshole. They all seem to be friends and keep in touch, so a movie or a season is not out of the question i think :)
i don't think it's aging poorly, it seems like Drew really likes this show so he's probably happy about this. idk that's just not something i would call "aging poorly"
Spencer Kindra nope he didn't say that you fucking liar, stupid fib telling lying piece of shit. I hate you and your family for lying to my children, they believed he said that and they were traumatized. How DARE you, did you not think of the children?!
@@Hannah-pr7gqwhile not on the same level as the previous ones I did like season 5, but mostly 6, quite a lot. They did well after losing so many from their cast, and I think the new additions were great.
01:05 Michael is much more of a straight man than Jeff is. Michael makes a few odd decisions in the original series but he was never as weird as Tobias or Buster. Jeff on the other hand was just as quirky as the rest of the study group. The show repeatedly says that, if anything, Abed is the most normal one.
Yeah I agree. In the episode where Britta makes them all take her psychology form (can’t remember which one that is), they realize all of them are crazy but one, and when the camera pans out on the tests we can see that Abed signed his name on the normal one. It’s just a funny detail.
agree and the thing is jeff really wasn't that normal to begin with like he constructed a fake study group just to sleep with someone based on a little information a random dude told him. he obviously has issues and that was just the pilot.
Something I love about Community that AD doesn’t have is the fact that while Jeff serves as someone for the audience to relate to as he reacts to the group’s craziness, he himself is just as crazy and flawed. Not only does this make him a far from interesting character than Micheal Bluth, it also drives the plot in so many episodes. The group’s equal flaws and quirks is what holds them together
I agree so much, the only reason that Remedial Chaos Theory isn't my favorite tv show episode ever is because the View from Halfway Down. I recommend Good Place to you if you love Bojack and Community.
If only they swapped...If Community got the Netflix gig, I think we'd still have Community today...at least the movie would have happened. The product of Arrested Development would have fit on Yahoo. I personally really like the final season of Community. Even though we were missing some MAJOR characters, somehow the new characters manage to bring the show back to life. Too bad
Don’t diss Arrested Development like that, nuh uh. One of the cleverest, most funny shows in its heyday. I’ll admit 4 and 5 were absolutely degrading as a huge fan, but the first three seasons were so absolutely hilarious and witty.
the last season is amazing and some of the best, the only thing that holds it down is the lack of those missing characters and the overall aura of sadness knowing they are gone and that it's almost over.
I've always lowkey resented Netflix for not picking Community up bc I agree. If they had, we'd likely would've gotten like...9 seasons and a movie. I love both of these shows a great deal and glad AD got a second life on Netflix. I just wish Community would've gotten the same.
The 4 most important characters in Community remained. Fact is after the 4th season the character of Troy Barnes had little point. Troy was just Abed's sidekick by season 5. Troy had no reason to be back at Greendale after graduating. Thats why him leaving made so much sense and his last episode was so good. Now, losing the comedic talents of Donald Glover was a big blow.
i personally think Arrested development is one of the best shows ever made. i very much enjoy watching it and keep being amazed about all the little easter eggs and multi season jokes. and it's so cringily awkward that this actually transfers to the viewer. talking about breaking fourth walls
I love the scene in Season 1 of AD, where Michael, Gob, and Barry are in the restroom at the courthouse. Michael and Gob leave, and Barry (Henry Winkler), goes to comb his hair in the mirror and does a Fonzie move like he did in Happy Days. I just died!!
I strongly disagree with recommending Remedial Chaos Theory as a first episode. It plays so much off the characters that you've come to know, but perhaps more importantly it'll ruin the episode for when you get inevitably hooked and watch the entire series.
Agreed. If you don't want to start with the pilot I would recommend starting with Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. It gives a nice description of all the characters in the beginning and it's so good.
if community had ended before being picked up by yahoo it wouldnt have ended on a high note. even though season 6 wasn’t popular, the story needed it. i would have never been satisfied without everything being tied together and that brilliant last episode to say goodbye. that last season was so incredible im so glad it happened
Agreed. The final scene too in Community? Everyone imagining their season 7? So perfect. And even the end tag with the Community board game. "Don't you get it? None of this is real."
@@beaulear7202 Don't be ignorant the cast that left had personal issues and professional aspirations to deal with. Pierce ( Chevy Chase) had addiction/ racism issues and conflict with the production, writing and directing of the show. Shirley (Yvette Nicole Brown) had to take care if her sick father. Finally Troy ( Donald Glover AKA Childish Gambino) had a music and movie career taking off. The show did the best with the hand that it was dealt with.
yeah 6 is a fantastic final season with probably the best final episode, good enough to the point that its fine if they never make the promised movie (i still want it though haha)
season 1-3 were my second favored seasons of television (behind the golden age of the Simpsons). but I felt like season 4 was way too long and to much stuff was happening and all the characters were different in a bad way (Michael). Those problems were better in season 5 but the season was less funny than season 4.
I've watched this video a million times. First when i had never seen Arrested Devolopment or Community, then when i finished watching community, and then when i was in the middle of Arrested devolopment, and once again when i finished Arrested Development. Its been quite the ride and this has to be my favorite video of yours.
@ogramzy I'm on the same boat, but I'm the middle of arrested development right now I've heard a few things about the later seasons after season 3 (including this video) and I'm not sure how I feel about it yet?
I feel like Alex Hirsch's decision to end Gravity Falls (which, yes, is technically considered a kid's show but is also excellent) after only two seasons is all the more brave and commendable after seeing so many wonderful shows go on for too long and lose steam.
Thing is, both of these shows could have walked a LOT longer without interruptions to their development. I can get a lot more work done if I put 8 straight hours into it than if I do 3, think I'm going home for the day, and then have to come back in 5 hours later and have to do the other 5... You lose the flow.
One of my favorite shows. He said he didn't want it to be over done like spongebob to the point where no one cares about it anymore. It's proof of how much he cared about the series and it's wonderful.
@@hatwallet I'd say we shouldn't even compare them! Instead of "parks and rec *versus* b99", how about "parks and rec *and* b99"? Both are amazing in their own times. I think you'd get a better analysis of each show if they were looked at together after establishing that both are excellent comedies, rather than one being better than the other. (This shouldn't include b99 season 6 haha, it does a disservice to the writing of past seasons)
Jane H Perhaps I was thinking a little too much about Season 6 of B-99, which was lacklustre and subpar (compared to the previous seasons). I might have been a bit harsh because of that. However, I still think that Parks and Rec is a better show - this is not a comparison of comedy (I think they are both excellent comedies, as you said). I maintain that P&R has much more than comedy to offer. Whilst B-99 certainly does have heartwarming characters and relationships, I find that P&R has managed to characterise and show development and growth better. Whilst I like the characters of B-99, I like them for not much more than their ‘quirks’ and occasionally minority struggles.
I have now binge watched all of community and holy shit he was absolutely right season 3 is a MASTERPIECE. 100% re-watching just that season before anything else
Season 6 is the second best season imo, season 3 have consistent quality in each episode, but season 6 have the best episode... Season 2 and 3 is obviously Community prime, but Season 6 kinda bring something more.
Dude arrested development is heads above almost everything around at the same time. Just a shame it didn't get the popularity it deserved. Should get a movie after that ending too!
I feel like Community also lost a lot of its charm by losing 3 key members of the study group. Pierce wasn't a huge loss, but losing Troy and Shirley made the show feel a bit hollow.
As two people have already mentioned, cheavy was the background guy who had a really big role, show felt so empty without him, Shirley didn't contribute much but troy was the end.
I don’t know what these other replies are about. Pierce’s sympathetic moments never outweighed the fact that his jokes and story arcs were consistently one-note and annoying; and Chevy Chase rarely seemed like he even wanted to be on the show. But yes, season six felt off with so much of the original cast gone, and Pierce’s replacement from season five not coming back for season six didn’t help that “off” feeling. It was nice that Shirley made small appearances in the season six premier and finale.
I’m currently re-watching arrested development and i’m at episode 15 of season 2 and i got hit by this coincidence not long after watching this youtube video. In the episode, Michael says: « you initially told us to design and build 22 homes now you are saying 18 ». This show is brilliant.
I'm actually doing my 3rd rerun because someone suggested we watch it, and, sure, why not. It falls off massively towards the end, but the amount of callbacks, running gags, references and just generally quotable lines in the first few seasons are amazing.
Or on season 3 how the pre finale episode its "Save the bluth" gala and they say stuff like "yeah hbo doesn't wanna anything to do with us" "I guess it's showtime then...we should put a show at the dinner" and how they added celebrity guest in that episode and the narrator kept begging to tell your friends about the show. Love how self-aware they were!
community is the best shit i have ever seen. to this day, i have tried to find something that comes close, but i just can’t, i would literally give anything to watch it for the first time again ugh😟😜
The fact that Community was revived by yahoo sounds weirdly on brand for Greendale community college.
It's what the dean would want
Subway was gonna buy the school I forgot about that lol 😂
I just re-watched Season 6, and it was pretty good for the most part. Certainly better than Season 4 (which was atrocious) ... and probably better than Season 5. Nowhere near the quality of Seasons 2 & 3, but that bar is so high -- Community Seasons 2 & 3 are probably the two best seasons of a TV comedy ever. Season 2 was the best, but Season 3's episode, as mentioned here, Remedial Chaos Theory is probably the best episode of any comedy I've ever seen. Meanwhile, Arrested Development just couldn't hold my interest in its final seasons -- despite being great in its earlier seasons.
4th!
also love that community and tumblr have been the two biggest things to cause yahoo to go bankrupt
yall remember in season 2 of community when shirley gave birth in anthropology class? abed stated that he had helped deliver a baby in the back of an suv before. a few episodes before that, while jeff was saying something, you could see someone giving birth in the back of an suv far away in the background... this show is insane
Which episode?
Daniel Cui
shirley giving birth - s2ep22
abed delivering a baby in the background - s2ep3
it was super subtle but the amount of details this show has is insane, i love it so much. all throughout the episode u can see abed in the background with the pregnant woman
@@drowsiella Holy shit I just went back to watch it, that's amazing. He's even fighting with the dad at the beginning
drowsiella and at the end of that episode Shirley asked abed what he had been up to that day and he just said nothing much like he hadn’t just delivered a child
Never noticed that before, but I also just found that that background story goes back even further. In S2:E3, you see that couple with Abed about 3 times in the background leading up to the birth. You also see that same couple in the background of episode 11, season 1. When the announcement comes to not use the condoms because they're faulty, you see the guy throw the condom away.
Pierce probably wouldn't agree that Jeff was a "straight man"
Sebastián Quirós Jeff: Did you know that you’re gay?
But on a serious note, Jeff stopped being a straightman midway through season 1. He did plently of things that were just as quirky as everyone else, where he and Michael are not alike at all.
Overally you really really can't compare the 2 because Community is frickin amazing and Arrested Development is an overrated piece of crap.
Milap Mehta oh really!! I’ve never seen arrested dev but I was planning on starting since there’s a lot of crossover fans with community, is it that bad?
@@RomanZolanski123 If you're planning on watching it, I won't spoil any specific jokes.
In short, they do a terrible job setting up their jokes. Judy Geller from Friends is an example of a well written mom who talks down to her kid because she's super nice to the other. Lucille Bluthe is really mean to everyone so her bad mom jokes don't work.
Gob and Buster are both man childs. There is absolutely no need for both.
The jokes with Lyndsey are super inconsistent with her sometimes being perceived as hot and sometimes being ignored. Her gay jokes don't work because Lyndsey is a caricature and nothing like the actress, Portia de Rossi. Portia's real life being ironic to the show is probably a reference of the joke in Ocean's Eleven where the press don't recognize Brad Pitt and George Clooney, but poorly done.
Community did an awesome job of making fun of incest in season 6. Arrested Development did a terrible job writing Maybe and George Michael's incestuous romance.
Tobias Funke is the only funny character, and even he is poorly written for many episodes.
@@RomanZolanski123 don't listen to that guy. Watch it, see how it is, then make your own opinion
drew describing jeff as the straight man of community is so insane to me because jeff is maybe the straight man in season one but he gets REAL crazy as time goes on
yeah but whos fault is that.... (dean pelton)
I’d say till like midway through season 2 he’s the straight man but yeah he gets insane. Remember when he drove an axe through the study table?
@@cotton3399 to be fair that was the monkey gas, but that sentence doesn’t make him appear very sane lol
somehow abed becomes the straight man
Jeff is the gay one.
I love how now Community's third run on Netflix brought it back into popularity. Proving it only failed because of Yahoo
I don't understand why Netflix didn't pick it up in the first place when it got canceled before season 6
I believe arrested development is failing right now. But community season 1-3 were amazing season 4 was a flop and 5-6 were good just not as good as the first three
@@parkxtra5901 The later seasons suffered from season 4 a lot. Bad writing pushed the show in a direction that had to be retconned, and a majority of the talent left as the ratings dropped. Hell, even Chevy Chase leaving was a bummer.
Parker Smith 5 was nearly as good as the first three, but I struggled to get through 6. Still better than AD 4 and 5 though.
@@Mr.gluestick what retcons are you referring to? I cant think of a single one.
The Dean from Community is exactly the type of character that I would typically hate and get annoyed of very quickly (not exactly part of the "main crew" but still gets a lot of screen time) but honestly he's such a well-written character that I can't help but love him with my whole heart lol
right?!
I know, he’s literally my top favorite characters. Aside from Chang and Troy. They could all be number 1.
And Tobias on the other hand I hated from the beginning
One of many Community characters to show up in the MCU in basically the same form (he plays an administrator at a college in Civil War)
jim rash is so fucking good in Community
When community started losing cast, it felt like losing old friends. I legit felt sad at the end
me too friend. I recommend this show to everyone but I don't recommend them to binge it cause we all start to care about these characters so quickly.. honestly I don't wanna watch the final season because Troy was my favorite character in the entire show
Not pierce
@@deactivatedperson3759 Peirce was a douche but he was one of the main characters, and it was nice to see him grow and become a better person because of the group
That’s the main reason of why I didn’t like season 6. The addition of Elroy and Frankie to the group feel so unnatural and forced. At least season 5 had Ian Duncan who had been on the show previously so it didn’t look strange seeing him with the rest of the group and also Hickey had a good chemistry with the rest of the characters and he was really funny sometimes. Not to mention that at least Troy was on the first 5 episodes and shirley was on all of them.
"One by one they all just fade away"
Community’s legacy is literally the textbook definition of “I’m unappreciated in my time”
Totally agree
it is streets ahead
@@joesoq stop trying to coin the term streets ahead
Love how the show ended with a narration saying show might move to the internet where turns out millions were watching, but will not matter
@@sohamladd trying?? coined and minted
Season 1 of Community deadass has one of the funniest bits of dialogue in any show ever.
"You're a football player! It's in your blood!"
--"That's racist."
"Your soul."
--"That's racist."
"Your eyes?"
--"That's gay."
"That's homophobic."
--"That's black."
" _That's_ racist."
i loved that part when i saw it
I haven't even watched the show and I still found this funny.
I kept rewinding it because it was too funny to not want to watch again.
Abed: Assalamualaikum
Troy: Shamalamadingdong 👊
One of my fav bit in Season 1 episode 13, Comparative Religion
Its no payday rap
as much as i wouldve loved these shows during their respective runs, i literally cannot imagine watching these shows on serialized network television. they are absolute gold in a streamable format. these shows are so ahead of their time it’s scary.
You could say they were....streets ahead
Anna Swenson stop trying to coin “streets ahead”
@@aryana2665 Trying? Coined and minted. Been there, coined that.
Streets Ahead?
@@toad7395 if you have to ask, you’re streets behind.
Community is now on Netflix and is literally more famous now than it ever was... Netflix has contracts with Alison Brie (GLOW), Joel McHale (his own show) and Ken Jeong (his own stand up special)... Donald Glover, the Russo brothers and Dan Harmon are some of the most beloved celebrities in the world nowadays... I think it's time we got our movie. And it's better be called *_AND A MOVIE_*
TBF it's possible, the Russo brothers can probably get permission too make whatever they want after endgame
Also, Gillian Jacobs with LOVE
And the Russos also made a movie for Netflix recently, they just have to get Donald Glover and the movie is very possible
Think bigger please #7 seasons and a movie!
The biggest hurdles to climb for a theoretical Community movie are not getting Netflix (or whatever other service) to pony up the production budget and distribution, nor is it corralling the primary cast at the same time for it (& yes, I'm including Donald Glover in that sentiment, even though he's already produced two more albums and written a movie in the time since I started this paragraph). Hell the Russos have even made it pretty clear they'd happily produce & direct it. BY FAR the biggest detail that fans seem to be sleeping on is Dan Harmon knocking out a feature length script. Sure, it's very likely a few of the series' other big writers would also be involved, ultimately it comes down to being Harmon's baby. He's talked about this a couple different times now, for one he's veeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrry skeptical (especially all the more time's now passed) he'd be able to cook something up to high enough quality to feel worth doing it. He's terrified of it sucking. But just even on the more practical side, anyone who knows much about how Harmon works knows he doesn't typically finish anything even close to quickly. He procrastinates like a motherfucker. And, in tandem with that same point, he's still got lots more of Rick & Morty he has to crank out for the foreseeable future.
Trust me, I'd never be so happy to wind up being so thoroughly wrong about everything here, but I kinda don't think I will be. I fucking adore this show beyond reason, but I made peace awhile ago now with not ever getting a movie.
I’m still flabbergasted that “yahoo screen” was something that existed
Agreed...and personally, that I was around to watch Community on its yahoo screen run. What an era.
Still think it's so funny that the only time it comes up in conversation it's because of Community lol
I have never heard of Yahoo screen. Ever. Except for in this video, and that’s upon REWATCH because I did not remember this being part of the video.
right?! like, did yahoo not realise how ultimately unimportant they were? i know they're one of the biggest search engines, but that really isn't saying much considering the near monopoly Google has on the internet. i dont know anybody who uses yahoo, and aside from yahoo answers (which has basically been replaced by Quora) i dont think ive ever seen anyone really use it even 20 years ago
Yahoo Screen is as crazy as the idea of a Bing streaming service. But hey, at least Andrew Garfield's Spiderman and Xbox users use Bing...
I watched it on Yahoo Screen when it first came out and I didn't even remember Yahoo Screen existing. I had retconned it to being on Hulu in my brain.
the "troy sneezes like a girl!" "And how about I pound you like a boy- That didn't come out right" line is one of my favourite parts of the show
Donald Glover had such a talent for delivering his lines in the best comedic way possible. It makes sense he’s had so much success after leaving the show he was probably the most talented actor in the cast.
@@louis8487 I think they left him long ago.
@@louis8487 Yeah, he's a comedian, rapper, singer, writer, actor, and director.
If that's your favorite line then you're streets behind
"Uruguay sounds like your gay" I was happy to see Uruguay on the show, and that line came so out of nowhere that it made me laugh for 2 straight minutes
This is honestly why I’m so relieved the creators of The Good Place are purposely stopping after their 4th season to maintain the integrity of the plot line.
youve made me very sad, i did not know season 4 was the last :(
Should have stopped after season 2 tbh.
@@bencollier6432 your opinion. I find myself wishing there were more cause i find the concept fascinating
@@BleedingLiar17 it is but don't you find they are dragging it out with random backstories and side plots that we don't need? And that the whole test they do in season 4 regarding whether humans can improve is irrelevant to the actual finding that the society with live in has rendered the point system ineffective? Lots of big ideas being lost in dragged out episodes
@@bencollier6432 you're very right about that. I also feel like theyre scared to take risks with some concepts. I did feel like season 3 had unnecessary side plots which diverged from the plot. I also found eleanor and chidi always being torn apart starting to get quite frustrating, which now makes me glad it'll end in s4 because i dont think i could handle it happening for a 4th time. I kinda wish the first seasons were longer, it'd help adjust to all the new characters being added but it's a comedy I guess. Cant expect more plot there. I did like the point system being rendered useless tho, i guess i like watching characters get frustrated and finding out that there's more to the plot/world than the characters are aware of
Community is one of those shows that I thought was gonna be cheesy as hell but is now one of my favorite shows ever
Its one of my favorite shows too, but it is absolutly cheese as hell sometimes
One of my favorite gags of Arrested Development was when they were about to be cancelled in the final season and had a whole episode centered around switching family companies (networks), and they brought up the "Home Buyers Organization" (HBO) and Showtime and a few others. Plus the narrator mentioning every two mins to "tell your friends to watch this". Iconic
I know the show generally got worse later on but the one thing that did get better as it went on was the narrator. His meta jokes are super clever and funny, the guy obviously did an amazing job
In my honest opinion, I always found arrested development a far superior show than community with regards to comedy and character craft.
I just finished watching season 2 and there’s an episode that begins with Michael hearing that an agreement the Bluth company had was altered and they now were only scheduled to build 18 houses instead of 22. The first season of the show had 22 episodes, but the second only got 18. I’ve seen this show so many times, but this was the first time I noticed that this was a meta joke about Fox shortening their season.
And Ron Howard was that narrator.
@@comfortscalling😮 holy shit hahahaha I love how I keep discovering shit from this show and it just makes the rewatch so much better
Your speech patterns and general voice reminds me a lot of Drew Gooden when he explains something.
juan torres that’s danny gonzalez, what the hell are you talking about?
@@freshpotatoes4779 no this is Drew Gooden
Is this an r/woosh?
@@silverfox389 no, thats greg
@@BlackSlimShady who the hell is greg
I like how the community universe's excuse for season 4 was a "gas leak".
literally love how self aware community was
and how they had the Dean make a big deal about not busting into a room in costume for a whole semester, by busting into a room in many costumes at once xD
It's funny because it's really stupid, unlike season 4 which was just stupid
which they made season 5 & 6 leak eveb more
Season 5 < Season 4, imo
the original 3 seasons of arrested development are pure fucking gold
That is just one of the many common things these series similarities
its one of the funniest shows ever made
Fr it’s the best show ever
I loved season 1 and 2 but felt season 3 dragged on a bit.
Yeah minus the part where they can’t resist saying the word retarded at least once an episode for like half of it
Alternate take: If giving Community a 6th season killed Yahoo Screen, that is a net win for the world.
Let’s be honest: there is no scenario of Yahoo Screen spending that 42 million differently where it would have been better spent.
The platform died blowing its wad on something great, rather than throwing those 42 million dollars it had no business possessing in the first place in a wood chipper.
Very well said
Yahoo Screen was flawed from the start. They signed no major studios or production companies to get content and they only produced a handful of their own original content.
No streaming service is going to survive with that. The business model was just absurd. Unlike Paramount, Peacock, HBO Max it didn't have a huge back catalogue or a broadcast tv station or cable channel to also carry the content and it didn't spent anywhere near the money Netflix, Apple or Amazon did to produce a large array of original shows.
And this video is wrong when it says Community alone cost Yahoo Screen $42 million. That $42 million was what they lost across all their original shows, just not Community.
The biggest tragedy with season 6 is that we only had Frankie and Elroy for so little screen time. Despite their short appearance, they were really fun and interesting characters, Frankie especially.
@@redbone9553 yeah the strength of the actors (and writers) really shows in how they both fit into the cast so well. same with johnathon banks
Yeah good take. Season 6 is still really really good.
To anyone watching this. Do NOT watch Remedial Chaos Theory as the first episode, just watch some mid tier episodes first. Community's comedy is heavily based on the characters in the show, and watching an episode without understanding the characters and their dynamic simply just makes it far less enjoyable. Speaking from experience as someone who did watch it first, then watched other episodes and then watched it again to enjoy it much more, but be slightly disappointed I didn't watch it for the first time
Only psychopaths don't watch the show in order
@@frosty_teacup yeah the best thing is to just watch it in order
Agreed. Also originally did that. Disliked the show! Recently started the show from the beginning... and loving it!!!
@@greentaigo2552 Especially considering how part of the brilliance and originality of Community is that they almost practically have a serialized basic cable hour long genre-level of mythology... that's put into a half hour network comedy.
which reminds me, I genuinely know a certain few people in my life that follow and adore Community and The Big Bang Theory the exact same amount. like, I never even know where to begin in just trying to unpack that notion.
Odd that you say that, since I accidentally, randomly watched Remedial Chaos Theory when replayed on tv years ago - that was what spurred me on to watch the whole series
Jeff seems like a straight man at first but over time you’ll see that he’s a very well thought out character with deep flaws in insecurities which he hides with sarcasm and humour
similar to Michael Bluth
very similar
Peirce was right that Jeff isn't a straight man
He's also usually part of the antics, rather than looking in from the outside. That's part of why Community is so uniquely chaotic-- it *has* no "straight man"
No one was buying him as a straight man.
Though two of these shows were already used in a video. I would kind of like to see how Drew breaks down:
1. The Office vs. Parks and Rec
2. Seinfeld vs. Friends
Haha not even close, Seinfeld wipes the floor with friends
Parks and Rec & Seinfeld.
Parks and Rec was just better IMO, if you like The Office, you do you. But Seinfeld is better than FRIENDS all the way and no one can change my mind
@Ethan you're kidding yourself if you really believe parks & rec is better than the office. That, or you watched p&r first and have a bias toward it.
Parks and recreation's humor is so much more explicit in its delivery, like a watered down brooklyn 9-9 (which actually makes it better than b99). The office does everything p&r tries to replicate so much better without being too over-the-top with it.
Seinfeld vs Always Sunny would make WAY more sense..
@@SlaterRecordsTV true, Seinfeld would win tho
AND NOW WE'RE GETTING OUR MOVIE!!!
Community is probably one of if not my favourite show of all time.
Even the "gas leak year" season had its good moments.
Herstory of Dance is legitimately a wonderful episode. The puppet episode however is the worst thing I've ever seen. Season 4 was certainly... a season of television
overrated show
@@KTK44quite the opposite - far underrated.
I love how even the worst season of Community, is rated higher than the average sitcom.
Basic Human Anatomy (E11) was the only episode that made me smile in S4 (coincidence that this is the ep where Troy and Britta split? probably not). the puppet one was godawful but the haunted house one (E2) is a close second for worst piece of garbage
Update: Community is now on Netflix. I’m binge watching. And it’s great but... what ever happened to legos? You know what I’m talking about legos are simple. Harry Potter Legos, Star Wars Legos. Complicated kits, tiny little blocks. I’m not saying it’s bad but what happened?
I am señor chang!
And I'm so ill!
This is a warning I cant be killed!
“How’s it Deaning?”
“Can’t comChang”
@@a8727
All in your cabeza
Without a chasa
Not another teacher with this much flava
CHANG
I know right! The legos today are so forced that they won't even let a blade of grass grow through them.
Seems like the darkest timeline
I feel like in Community we didn't understand how important Troy was until he left.
Not Your Mom what is funny is that when Troy leaves to get the pizza in “Remedial Chaos Theory” that is the darkest timeline. The foreshadowing is real.
@@ShirleyG10 that's so true, I hadn't thought about it.
troy is a superior character. i love him
he was huge in the childish gmabino scene a year before he left tho...
Wrong. Troy was there in season 4 and it is the worst season by a mile. Donald Glover, while very talented, was NOT the key to Community’s brilliance
also in season 4 they turned abed into a sort of emotionless robot when they previously established that he has a lot of emotions and her just expresses them much differently. he went from this sweet, analytical and self-aware character to just an asshole
I didn't like how they made him go full on nonverbal over a TV show cancellation. Both because it's kind of degrading to see as an autistic person and because it led to one of my least favorite parts of the show, Inspector Spacetime.
@@MissedBandwagon that and the season 5 finale were really well done from Harmon. I think it could be argued that Abed was used as somewhat of a crutch in season 4 to deliver pop culture references in an almost robotic way instead of weaving it into visuals or likewise, and these episodes did well at addressing Abed's tendencies (as did lots of S6!)
They really turned him into a Sheldon type character which gets annoying and boring fast.
i mean that was the gas leak year
i think it's probably because abed is definitely aspergers coded and dan harmon himself has aspergers, so when he was fired, and the new writers were hired, they weren't able to write him properly and he came across super flat
referring to community season 4 as "an uno card with a weird stain on it" is the funniest and truest thing ive ever fucking heard
"Virgin nerd guy say smart thing" and "two hot girl do dumb job"
* _hilarity ensues_ *
Probably exactly how these shows were presented to their respective networks.
benghazi!
There’s two big reasons I like Two Broke Girls.
Kryptic Mortal 1. Kat. 2. Dennings.
She's SO funny, but yeah. Damn.
Zimbabwe!!
@@alexkeeran4654 * hilarity ensues *
The amount of intelligent hidden gems sewn into the fabric of Arrested Development is enviable and delicious.
Like all of the yearbook quotes, I just stopped and read them and they were all like hobbies: fish
Enviable?
That sentence was oddly satisfying...
I think the downfall of arrested development is that it didnt have broad appeal in the first few seasons, and honestly if you had binged the whole 4th season(before the re-edit) like one really long episode it was great. The payoff of the first tobias episode made the first lindsay episode hilarious in retrospect.
@@development_arrested I agree I do not like the edit of season 4 into neat little episodes. I watched it when it first came out and really liked the whole each character gets an episode
I think you meant to say “Communi-dean.”
Preston? Where are those settlements?
He got changnesia so he couldnt remember the name of the show :( #arealdisease
I think you meant to say CHANGmuniDEAN
No. I don't think he meant that.
He’s a bad dean, okay?!?!??
I legitimately think the original run of arrested development has the best writing of any television show
I fully agree. I’ve seen so many amazing sitcoms, but the first two seasons of Arrested Development are actually perfect. It’s not my #1 sitcom, but I think it’s genuinely the best
Watching Arrested original run for the first time was like listening to a beautifully composed musical piece. Just a masterpiece
@Jearbearjenkins I think cause people like more outlandish stuff
"his love interest and mother... two different characters I should say" no, no I think Lucille Bluth counts as both
I think they both count as both lol
"mother makes me wait out on the balcony until zip up, but at bath time anything goes"
The season six finale of Community was really sweet to me. I didn't expect it to have such a somber nice ending.
i love it when the characters imagining their versions of seventh season. yeah, it's sad to see Jeff left by his study group.
I cried like a little baby. I can’t say it was a good cry because I was genuinely depressed by it but it was... cathartic and final. It made sense and felt real. But it also felt like real friends were going their own ways in life like when I graduated my community college and transferred
The family at the very end playing the board game then realizing they weren't real -- sums up the best of Community for me.
@@maahierabrahams4493 I get it, but I hated that bit with every fiber of my being when I saw it for the first time. It really felt out of place for me.
the finale broke my heart and makes me cry every time
(jeff choking out abed is the most raw emotional scene ive seen him in)
Community lost 3 main cast members, was canceled once, moved to a shitty streaming service, and still ended up as the best sitcom ever made. That's impressive.
Community will always be my favorite show. I hope the movie will be as good as the show
Love it too much
absolutely. community is revolutionary and the fact that is ended like this is sad. can’t wait for that movie though :)
Community sucked ass let’s not kid ourselves it’s one of the shows that gets stale after the first viewing. Watching it a second time you can really figure out what doesn’t work
i’ve seen it like five times now and i still love it. people have different opinions :)
I’m so so so glad community is finally on Netflix because people are finally going to appreciate it’s majesty and I cannot wait for the movie to finally come along
It was on Netflix a few years ago too but It didn't have the final season on there. I dunno if it is now but it should be.
Aldo Raine All six seasons are on Netflix. At least where I live they are
I watched community for the first time bc of it being on Netflix, I loved the show
@@queenelizabeth8145 I envy you so much haha, apparently the movie is actually being made. Hope that's true.
It did!! I'm from Greece and even here it generates a buzz right now. The quarantine although tragic, gave them that boost they needed. Hopefully the movie is next
Ah, Drew, how I look forward to your yearly vids on the RUclipss. It's a lonely platform without you, the sole channel, posting content.
The community pulled the biggest UNO reverse and is now popular on Netflix.
I know! I just looked at Netflix the other day and it was on the list of popular shows at the moment.
Part of me still hopes they get that movie because it has definitely had a comeback
@@avarms257 omg yes
@@avarms257 they owe us a movie. Lol
@@SirGuidemere91 yeah they do
That fact that Community’s season 6 was really good, while being moved to Yahoo and without Donald Glover (Troy), Chevy Chase (Pierce) and Yvette Nicole Brown (Shirley) shows just how fucking good Dan Harmon was. And shoutout to Paget Brewster and Keith David, who I thought were both terrific in season 6. I let’s not forget how important the Russo Brothers were to Community.
Arrested Development on the other hand was pretty weak on season 4 & 5. It just seemed like none of the actors wanted to do the show anymore. It felt very forced. Which is a shame, because the first 3 seasons of AD are probably the funniest episodes of television ever. Often times when I binge watch AD, and just stop after the 3rd season.
I love season 6, elroy and frankie were amazing, the loss of the shirley, troy and pierce however unfortunate was reflective of life changing. The last episode of the season was amazing, as jeff slowly adopts abeds indulgence into TV being used as a crutch for reality as he's unable to understand or handle it. Until he finally accepts there is no season 7 people change and develop and although he won't be with his friends anymore he still will be able to be happy. He no longer hides behind his cool persona as a way to prevent other from seeing his insecurities and fear of abandonment and fear of no control. Which was shown to him through the group.
As well as Annie growing up from a naive young girl into a assured women ready to start her career and abed going out into the world.
I wish Brett had a better ending, kinda feel sorry for her throughout however I did love her interacts with her parents throughout season 6 which somewhat explains her actual behaviour but there's no long term development.
Glad Jeff didn't get with Annie too. It was too weird for me. The age gap was too much as well as their maturity gap.
I disagree with your second statement. The actors of AD very much wanted to do the show, even earlier, but the entire cast and production staff had so many problems trying to stay “on the air” while maintaining views due to poor broadcasting management essentially. I think they were just tired of fighting and knew it was time to end. The whole team including the actors still speak very fondly and highly of the show and each other.’
Nah, community season 4 and 6 are weak
I’ve never gotten farther than 5 episodes into AD season 4
@rabbitman8535 Honestly, even though Chevy Chase was a major dick, I was still sad to see him go. The main 7 are all vital to the show, and even 1 leaving (which ended up being 3..) can make the show not the same. I still liked it afterwards just not as much as the other seasons
Community was Streets Ahead
😭
It’s kinda sad that arrested development is so influential but got cancelled
And if you don't get it you're streets behind
“Streets ahead” is actually a good saying
PLS LMAOO one of my absolute favorite pierce bits
My favorite line of dialogue in sitcom history comes from the episode of Community when annie and Jeff run for president, when Dean Pelton asks Pierce what his platform was and he replies "My platform is one high enough to push Vicky off to her death." The first time I watched that I laughed so hard I almost cried, I actually had to pause it and let myself settle down. Just the delivery from Chevy Chase was SO perfect
Isaac Jones That is one of my favourite lines from any show ever as well. Another one of my favourite things in Community is later in that episode, when Vicki left the race for president and Pierce leaves because he only wanted to bully Vicki.
Jeff's audition tape for The Real World made me love Joel McHale because he was so willing to make such an arse of himself.
Mine was when duncan put mustard on his face at the dance. I couldnt handle it
I think the line that might be my favorite of the show is in S1 when Annie tells Jeff that, in high school, she was so unpopular that "the crossing guard would lure her into oncoming traffic." That was the first time I was laughing at one line for almost the entire rest of the episode.
@@pance_9912 mine was Duncan at the dance when he put mustard on his face. I had seen JO on LWT before community, and it was so funny imagining JO from LWT doing that
I love Community so much and it just always felt under-appreciated to me
Katie Moore i regret not watching until a year ago 😢
I often wish I could forget everything about Community, so I could experience watching it for the first time all over again
@@tresfordays9644 so true
how did a sitcom make me love the characters so much
I had never heard about it before this video
Remedial Chaos Theory is best enjoyed when you already know these characters and their dynamics with each other. I wouldn’t start with it. If you aren’t planning to binge watch the entire series, I’d recommend starting with something like Contemporary American Poultry. It’s the first full dive into genre homage for an entire episode and it’s not quite as insane as Remedial Chaos Theory. It’ll give you a better feel for what to expect from the series as a whole.
Yah I don’t think the first episode is a great intro to the show, it literally has a different really generic theme song than the rest of the show and other than Jeff and Britta, the characters are kind of ignored and not realized yet.
Ironically, that actually was the first episode of the show I ever saw, before I even knew what it was. I was immediately pulled in by the multiple timelines thing in what seemed like another generic sitcom at first. I didn't end up watching the full show for a few years, but that one always stuck with me and made me feel it was something worth watching, which it was.
@@Chibi_Rikka are you talking about Chaos or Poultry?
@@favoritemustard3542 Oh, I guess I didn't clarify but I meant Remedial Chaos Theory.
tyvm@@Chibi_Rikka
Now that Community is on Netflix, I’m extremely thankful that they went through with the final season, even if no one watched when it was initially produced. We can binge all six seasons (and maybe eventually get a movie????)
I only want a movie if we get the original cast
I watched season 6 on yahoo screen. It was not user friendly and nothing else of interest was on. I can see why it failed. Thankful it was free.
@@this_is_beanstalk the originally cast minus Chevy. Chevy is an ass.
YES OMG
@@King_Dragmire Well his character is dead, so no need to worry on that. I'd be down to have Hickey instead. And Duncan of course.
Let’s be honest, before it was on Netflix, most people found out about Community from the “Hah, Gayyyyyyyyyyy” meme
I found out about it from Watchmojo, it being mentioned in the top 10 TV shows that need to become movies, Star Wars parody episodes, Christmas episodes and out of genre episodes made me curious enough to check it out when I first got Netflix in 2015
i found out about it from the gif of everything on fire
No, I have watched Parks and Rec and The Good Place, I saw some videos on YT about a Community and it was too funny. So I looked for where I could watch it. I got Hulu and watched the whole thing in like 3 weeks. I took my time with my first watch.
Nobody actually saw it on tv? That's how I know it.
I found it out on watchmojo top 10 bromances and Troy and Abed was 2nd
Season 3 of Community is a goddamn masterpiece.
Andy Krauser facts yo
Season 2 is also a masterpiece
@@jandcstopmotion7774 agreed
The third season of every show is always the best. One other example is The office
@@jandcstopmotion7774 the whole show is a masterpiece
The problem with Arrested Development in it's original run was that a show like it had a hard time picking up new viewers mid-season. Jokes that were hilarious as callbacks fell flat (or even seemed offputting) for newcomers. The show works best in the streaming era, where you can watch it as a complete work.
S1-3 the best
S4 Gas Leak Year
S5 Really good comeback
S6 Sadder and slowish but ultimately a good wrap-up to the show that solidified it in my top 5 favorite shows ever
Genji
I never even heard of it 2 weeks ago and now it’s one of my favourite shows ever
Aaron Keane same. I’m literally binging it and I don’t want it to ever end
Watching it again recently I can't believe just how good the last half of season 6 is. There's some legit classic episodes there. Plus it helps that the finale is kinda flawless
S6 is so fucking good, especially the last few episodes.
I felt slightly disappointed with season 6, I think it's because there were less different episodes, or if there were different genres editing did not show it.
All 6 seasons of Community were amazing, all while trying to make it to regionals
God I hope we make it to regionals
@@avarms257 WHAT THE HELL ARE REGIONALS?
@@BigDaddy-fe6yv just because I’m confused doesn’t undermine their importance
@@joshdarcy746 Dude that is a reference from that episode
@@BigDaddy-fe6yv They're this close!
This guy’s conclusion is just a jeff speech.
This comment is streets ahead
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@@macaronnie shut up leonard!
@Dana25 I heard about your prescription socks
Classic Winger
Community getting dealt the extremely shit hand feels just like exactly what would happen in a community episode
I wish we were in the alternate reality where dan Harmon was never fired and community got a movie
It actually looks like Netflix might be planning on doing that.
You never know. Joel McHale stated that the show's growing popularity on Netflix could possibly lead to a movie :)
I just hope they get Donald Glover back in any shape or form. I want Troy and Abed back!!
Darragh Hynes if troy and abed don't reunite, the movie isn't worth it
i wish this was true :( altho Dan would be great, what killed me was troy leaving :( and chevy... blah, he was funny but annoyed me a lot, but troy and abed were for me holding the show as high as it was, best storieslines, just doesnt feel the same without them
Dan Harmon was fired for sexual assault so I'd rather take a slightly less well written show than people on set being uncomfortable with their assaulter around
Arrested Development was ahead of its time, Community was sublimely creative.
Arrested Development is like a classic concept album, which one has to listen all the way to the finish, full of nuances, hidden symbolism, easter eggs, and brilliant writing.
Community is like a feel-good greatest hits pop album, full of standalone hit singles and multiple genres you can enjoy.
Yessssa
Perfectly said!
I think both descriptions apply to both shows
That is genuinely the best way to put it
To me community is like a stoners fever dream.
Also worth a mention, Community lost a lot of its stellar cast which really messed with the chemistry. The replacement cast was actually quite good, surprisingly, but it never really felt the same in seasons 5 and 6.
True. Even though I liked the replacement cast they can't compare to the original cast from the 4 seasons.
I really really liked Frankie. I'm sad we didn't get to see more of her. And Keith David is always great (even if I keep thinking about Gargoyles every time I hear him speak).
I loved Paget Brewster (also love her in criminal minds!), but yeah. Troy was always my favorite character. I don't think they should even bother doing a movie if they can't get Donald Glover for it.
Season 5 and 6 were far superior to season 4 though. Troy was great, but they gave him a great send off before his character got stale.
i loved the replacement cast, but it wasnt the same without troy, shirley & pierce
Note: The person who made Arrested Development actually appeared in Community as Coogler the guy from that season 6 paintball episode
wasnt coogler also in the meow meow beanz episode
THE COOGLER IS HIM??
@@benjibruhye Yup!
Also, Dan Harmon appeared in Arrested Development as the border control guy
Tony Hale and David Cross each have cameos in Community as well
I have watched Arrested Development and Community and it is fun watching you analyze them. I wouldn't mind if you posted more videos like this.
jakerdox which one did you prefer? I wanna watch one but I only have time for one.
SheaCouleé WasRobbed Arrested Development is good but Community is way better and more original in my opinion.
jakerdox thank you!
Same I like it when he branches away from vine and the Paul brothers
He should do one with parks and rec
Although losing Troy, Pierce and Shirley hurt the show; Community’s ability to bring in fresh characters that I cared about was pretty epic. I loved Hickey, Elroy and especially Frankie. I thought they each brought their own spin to the group dynamic which I loved!!
Just sucks that Duncan was wasted when he became part of the group, he’s used so sparingly throughout season 5 it’s like they only had him for an hour of filming each episode
@@mrcritical6751 Duncan was supposed to be a main cast member from the very start. Its why he has so much screen time in the first two episodes. Then he got his talk show and relegated to a recurring character.
New characters are cool, season with Hickey is absolutely great but you can't remove that many characters and introduce new ones without breaking the balance of the show. I mean season 6 just finished introducing Frankie and Elroy that the season is over.
I agree
Honestly yes! I literally can’t think of one single other show that could handle losing 3 ensemble leads and switching to friggin’ Yahoo Screen with any more dignity than they did. I loved Frankie and Elroy in season 6.
Drew, that picture of the banana holding the other banana made me really uncomfortable. Please apologize, thank you.
THOSE TWO BANANAS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE TOGETHER!!!!!!!
STOP BEING SO BANANAHOMOPHOBIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you mean bananaphobic
@@HotSkeleton sorry for my incorrect terminology, the bigot just got me sooo flustered :'(((
@@twood12301 oi mate close ya trap.
LOVED Arrested Development. I was bummed it was cancelled. Honestly, they waited too long and the ensemble cast couldn't be properly reassembled. RIP Jessica Walters.
I gotta say: I love remedial chaos theory. Probably my favorite episode ever. But I wouldn’t recommend it as a first episode to watch of community. I feel like it’s best watched if you know the characters going in.
i start people off with documentary filmmaking: redux, or cooperative calligraphy. they do a good job of introducing everyone and the show's format
@@user-oq6ol5fi2w Oooo cooperative calligraphy is a good choice. I think it’s def good to start with one that’s a little more grounded while still having that community charm. I think environmental science is a great one to show how well the show can balance multiple storylines intersecting.
The DnD episode is my go to when introducing the series. No prior knowledge is needed since they introduce each character in the episode and it shows how weird the show can be, unlike the pilot episode of the series.
It is definitely one of the best episodes but I totally agree with you in not watching that one first. Still that episode is so amazing
This was the first episode I watch on comedy central and I fall in love with Community, I've never laughed so hard in my life before
Arrested Development is one of the greatest shows on Netflix and Community is one of the greatest shows on Hulu
nick da bott Community is also on Amazon Prime
Community used to be on netflix and it’s definitely one of my most viewed shows’ on the platform
Arrested Development is one of my favorite sitcoms of all time but I wish Netflix never picked it up 🤦🏻♂️
Hi Me Yeah I wasn’t really feeling that honestly
Community is on Stan in Australia.
Drew, man, this was GREAT. I love your usual videos, but more of these PLEASE MAN, for all the stinkers.
That's little stinkers to you bud
Really? I didn’t really like it
Megan Gilmore Out of curiosity, why is that? Not a fan of video essays?
I agree, as an avid video essay consumer there is a gap in essays on comedic media and Drew is like the perfect person to fill the niche
Useless Information I completely agree. He’s great at it too and as you said, there’s a gap on the topics he’d cover. I hope he sees these comments!
As a television student, I have watched Remedial Chaos Theory as lessons for how to write an interwoven narrative. That being said the best episode of community is the one where Chang investigates the matchbook company
YESSSSSS! especially the part when he looks in the mirror and says "why does this guy keep staring at me?"
Man you just mentioning it made me laugh out loud. That episode was hilarious. Along with Peanut dean rap are some of the most hilarious moments from the show.
God I loved that so much. “Legs that went all the way to the bottom of her torso,” what a line. Chang was such an excellent character.
My favourite episode, personally, would have to be a tie between the one where Abed and Troy build a pillow/blanket fort and then start a war or the one where they make a commercial for greendale. Pillows and blankets is not the funniest or the cleverest but I love Troy and Abeds friendship so much and the documentary format is great, and I don’t think documentary filmmaking: redux needs much of an explanation
oooohhh shit documentary filmmaking: redux is maybe my favorite episode of the whole show. the dean is a hilarious character. i also love intermediate documentary filmmaking, with pierce's beaqueathals @@salem-01
The whiplash I get when you start talking about 'Aliens in America' and it transitions from the title sequence, which has a surprising amount of pathos and sympathy for this little space alien student, and learning that it's actually about a Muslim exchange student and playing into Islamophobia, is a bizarre kind of hilarious that brings forth no laughs because my body is in shock.
I was expecting them to get ya know an alien since that's what was shown .
As a Pakistani American Muslim hearing about that show made me sigh out loud.
As a pakistani that really made me feel so sick, also i loved community at first because ive never seen a muslim character like abed on tv ever before and i was so scared they would ruin him
As a white American that lived with 3 Arabian dudes that are still my close friends to this day, I felt second hand embarrassment that show was even a thing.
@@bladeefan3 WE NEED MORE PALESTINIANS CHARATERS!
I think you’re on the money when you say that Arrested Development is a show almost uniquely incompatible with the weekly broadcast format. It’s at its best when you can watch the episodes one after the other, pausing or rewinding at your will. The original is so perfectly suited for Netflix viewing that the shortcomings of the reboot are even more bizarre.
Editing on season 4 and 5 is very, very slow. And there's a lot of subtlety with audio in the first 3 seasons. Many finishing jokes have a lower volume and tracked left or right.
Just a little bit in to season 4 now. The main difference is the jarring lack of pace. The original series had intricately written dialogue and jokes that were delivered at breakneck speed. The combination of running jokes and spontaneity was what gave the dialogue layers, and each of the characters’ storylines would intertwine throughout a single episode. The new episodes feel lethargic in comparison
@@rp1455 Yeah I noticed that. Pretty sure I watched the remixed version, but still. You can go a couple episodes and then we'll get back to a character we haven't seen in a WHILE and be like "oh yeah, THIS main character, huh."
Donald Glover is an oddity wrapped in an enigma and one of the most talented people I’ve ever seen, continues to amaze. Both of these shows are great though
l like him more now that he's more reserved l found him cringey in this show and irl for years
There's nothing that man can't do.
He's amazing.
Love his music.
I liked the new cast in community. Frankie quickly became one of my favorite characters. The I'm in charge bc hierarchy and I say so line is one try to use often.
"why would ***ANYONE*** hire someone so ***POMPOUS***"
I personally couldn’t stand her. The part where she kept being told by other characters that she was like some of their friends was true. She was a weird melting pot of Abed, Annie, and occasional pieces of Jeff too. She wasn’t unique enough and it annoyed me to no end
@@herohalv4543I didn’t really like Frankie until hearing the hiring manager say that
You missed even more foreshadowing with Buster looking his hand in arrested development. He Had a large hand chair that he liked early in that season which his mother throws out.
I never thought I'd miss a hand so much.
Also he is sitting on a bench that says "Army Office", but his body blocks some of the letters to where it says "Arm Off".
And was excellent at the claw machine
I've watched the first 3 seasons so many times now and this never occurred to me. Holy shit
Omg and the arm chair appeared in a later episode when Buster THOUGHT he woke up in mexico but he was actually at their house keepers personal home !!!
This video is aging poorly now that Community is on Netflix and kicking ass. A movie seems likely if they can get everyone together.
Chang and Jeff have a podcast called "The Darkest Timeline" and there was an episode in the last few days. Everyone from the cast was on it (Annie, Shirley, Chang, Jeff, Abed, Troy), INCLUDING Dan Harmon. Of course without Chevy, cause no one likes Chevy - he is an asshole.
They all seem to be friends and keep in touch, so a movie or a season is not out of the question i think :)
omg you guys I can't believe we may really get six seasons and a movie );
Aren’t you adorable Annie
So we’d be getting six seasons.....and....a movie?
i don't think it's aging poorly, it seems like Drew really likes this show so he's probably happy about this. idk that's just not something i would call "aging poorly"
"I've made a huge tiny mistake."- Fox's CEO when he realized how popular Arrested Development was.
Spencer Kindra nope he didn't say that you fucking liar, stupid fib telling lying piece of shit. I hate you and your family for lying to my children, they believed he said that and they were traumatized. How DARE you, did you not think of the children?!
Chad you good bro?
Chad see a therapist
Erica Raths no, I think Chad is right...
@@Nicklovesmw2 Bruh
Another similarity between the shows is that they both had a 3 season run of excellence before things fell apart
That's actually more common than you think because a lot of shows have their core talent and creative team on three season contracts.
@@katla_phc interesting. Never thought about that
Community s5 and 6 was actually really good
@@katla_phc walking dead
@@Hannah-pr7gqwhile not on the same level as the previous ones I did like season 5, but mostly 6, quite a lot. They did well after losing so many from their cast, and I think the new additions were great.
Troy and Abed and Drew Gooooooooden
the crossover we need but don't deserve
Oh my God Caroline I found you
@@jessiesajoke WAIT
@@jessiesajoke I feel like I've witnessed something here xD
LMFAOAO
I didn't even realize this was Drew Gooden until fucking 15 minutes in. Great essay, thanks buddy. I actually really like something different.
Omg same I didn’t even think of Drew until I saw his name in one of the comments
Wtf neither did i just realised now
You're all lying little fuckers. Stop lying, no you did not you LIARS
Same, I was so confused.
OpathicaNAE oh my god I didn’t even realize until after
01:05 Michael is much more of a straight man than Jeff is. Michael makes a few odd decisions in the original series but he was never as weird as Tobias or Buster. Jeff on the other hand was just as quirky as the rest of the study group. The show repeatedly says that, if anything, Abed is the most normal one.
Yeah Jeff starts out as the main character, but the other characters quickly become just as important as him.
Abed being the normal one is a bit of a stretch. I'd argue Troy is the most normal character.
@Ryan Akwar He can say whatever he wants, I can still disagree with him.
Yeah I agree. In the episode where Britta makes them all take her psychology form (can’t remember which one that is), they realize all of them are crazy but one, and when the camera pans out on the tests we can see that Abed signed his name on the normal one. It’s just a funny detail.
agree and the thing is jeff really wasn't that normal to begin with like he constructed a fake study group just to sleep with someone based on a little information a random dude told him. he obviously has issues and that was just the pilot.
Something I love about Community that AD doesn’t have is the fact that while Jeff serves as someone for the audience to relate to as he reacts to the group’s craziness, he himself is just as crazy and flawed. Not only does this make him a far from interesting character than Micheal Bluth, it also drives the plot in so many episodes. The group’s equal flaws and quirks is what holds them together
It really helps develop the feeling of “oh so EVERYBODY here is a weirdo” once you finally realise that Jeff is just as insane as any of the others
Idk we eventually find out micheal is stupid, selfish or ridiculous in his own ways
24 Frames Of Drew Gooden
Every Frames a Gooden
Both drew and danny damn nick
Your Gooden Sucks
24 Frames Of Nick I checked twice if I was watching one of your videos or if was youtube was glitching jsjsj
Now You See Gooden
community is literally the best show i’ve ever watched. it’s my number one favorite tied with bojack horseman. community ended just when it should’ve.
I take it you're a big Alison brie fan then haha
@@Jamie28999 who isn’t lol
Ahhh love for Danny Donald and Alison>
Bojack horseman sucks
I agree so much, the only reason that Remedial Chaos Theory isn't my favorite tv show episode ever is because the View from Halfway Down. I recommend Good Place to you if you love Bojack and Community.
I don't care how much of a trainwreck community's run has been, in my heart there will always be a glimmer of hope that we'll get a movie
SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE
SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE
if they do make a movie, Troy and Shirley better come back
ITS BEEN ANOUNCED! ITS BEING WORKED ON! WE WON!!!!
it will probably suck but it just existing will be enough 🫶
If only they swapped...If Community got the Netflix gig, I think we'd still have Community today...at least the movie would have happened. The product of Arrested Development would have fit on Yahoo. I personally really like the final season of Community. Even though we were missing some MAJOR characters, somehow the new characters manage to bring the show back to life. Too bad
You do know the movie is happening though right? It was confirmed a few months ago.
Don’t diss Arrested Development like that, nuh uh. One of the cleverest, most funny shows in its heyday. I’ll admit 4 and 5 were absolutely degrading as a huge fan, but the first three seasons were so absolutely hilarious and witty.
the last season is amazing and some of the best, the only thing that holds it down is the lack of those missing characters and the overall aura of sadness knowing they are gone and that it's almost over.
I've always lowkey resented Netflix for not picking Community up bc I agree. If they had, we'd likely would've gotten like...9 seasons and a movie. I love both of these shows a great deal and glad AD got a second life on Netflix. I just wish Community would've gotten the same.
The 4 most important characters in Community remained. Fact is after the 4th season the character of Troy Barnes had little point. Troy was just Abed's sidekick by season 5. Troy had no reason to be back at Greendale after graduating. Thats why him leaving made so much sense and his last episode was so good.
Now, losing the comedic talents of Donald Glover was a big blow.
i personally think Arrested development is one of the best shows ever made. i very much enjoy watching it and keep being amazed about all the little easter eggs and multi season jokes. and it's so cringily awkward that this actually transfers to the viewer. talking about breaking fourth walls
The Wire>
All the foreshadowing to Buster losing his hand and Gob having a son, waaaay before any of them happened, loved it!
even still after 3 watches i still catch on to little jokes
I love the scene in Season 1 of AD, where Michael, Gob, and Barry are in the restroom at the courthouse. Michael and Gob leave, and Barry (Henry Winkler), goes to comb his hair in the mirror and does a Fonzie move like he did in Happy Days. I just died!!
The show is god tier among comedy shows idc what no one says
I strongly disagree with recommending Remedial Chaos Theory as a first episode. It plays so much off the characters that you've come to know, but perhaps more importantly it'll ruin the episode for when you get inevitably hooked and watch the entire series.
Agreed. If you don't want to start with the pilot I would recommend starting with Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. It gives a nice description of all the characters in the beginning and it's so good.
Numayam the problem is that episode isn’t on Netflix which is where a lot of people- including me are watching it.
@@t.j.snackattack1237 Yeah that's a problem now, not when I wrote it though. Makes it suck even more that they removed - it is honestly so ridiculous
Numayam well that comment aged like milk...
T.J. SnackAttack wait what when was it taken off of Netflix??? Does anyone know why??
if community had ended before being picked up by yahoo it wouldnt have ended on a high note. even though season 6 wasn’t popular, the story needed it. i would have never been satisfied without everything being tied together and that brilliant last episode to say goodbye. that last season was so incredible im so glad it happened
Agreed. The final scene too in Community? Everyone imagining their season 7? So perfect. And even the end tag with the Community board game. "Don't you get it? None of this is real."
I hate the last 2 seasons, they introduce stupid new characters and they horribly remove half the cast
@@beaulear7202 Don't be ignorant the cast that left had personal issues and professional aspirations to deal with. Pierce ( Chevy Chase) had addiction/ racism issues and conflict with the production, writing and directing of the show. Shirley (Yvette Nicole Brown) had to take care if her sick father. Finally Troy ( Donald Glover AKA Childish Gambino) had a music and movie career taking off. The show did the best with the hand that it was dealt with.
yeah 6 is a fantastic final season with probably the best final episode, good enough to the point that its fine if they never make the promised movie (i still want it though haha)
I think the whole reason Harmon even agreed to the Yahoo deal wasn’t for success, it was to finish the story. Because the story needed it.
my math teacher absolutely loved community and made references of it in class and me being so cultured understood a lot of them. i’m gonna miss him
You can tell arrested development is still under rated from the 80% community fans in this comment section
it's a shame, 1-3 were really good
@@mourningdove5591 5 was good too. 4 not so much.
@@lenahaziq it's the other way around for me, s4 was still making me laugh at least
season 1-3 were my second favored seasons of television (behind the golden age of the Simpsons). but I felt like season 4 was way too long and to much stuff was happening and all the characters were different in a bad way (Michael). Those problems were better in season 5 but the season was less funny than season 4.
RIGHT LMAO
i took sitcom classes in film school and we often used Arrested Development as a case study. So yes, this history lesson IS taught in schools
These are actually extremely refreshing! Love how different this is for this channel and *looking forward to more Drew*
*Danny Gonzales
Katie Weinhold that was *aggresive*
imalrighty hahaha I reread it and *it WAS! **_unintentionally_*
The later seasons of community are so underrated!! They are amazing despite losing some key characters
Chang in season 6 is a masterpiece, it's truly one of my favorite seasons
@@dillonglaab6066Chang is always a masterpiece
Story of community is so tragic. I loved the show so much. My favorite work by Harmon. So creative and funny!
Tbh the only season I really didn't enjoy was 4, 1-3 is golden as fuck and 5+6 are not too bad. 4 is noticeably missing that Harmon touch
@@thegiddyjoy I'd go as far to call S5 & 6 brillant as well.
I've watched this video a million times. First when i had never seen Arrested Devolopment or Community, then when i finished watching community, and then when i was in the middle of Arrested devolopment, and once again when i finished Arrested Development. Its been quite the ride and this has to be my favorite video of yours.
@ogramzy I'm on the same boat, but I'm the middle of arrested development right now I've heard a few things about the later seasons after season 3 (including this video) and I'm not sure how I feel about it yet?
I feel like Alex Hirsch's decision to end Gravity Falls (which, yes, is technically considered a kid's show but is also excellent) after only two seasons is all the more brave and commendable after seeing so many wonderful shows go on for too long and lose steam.
Thing is, both of these shows could have walked a LOT longer without interruptions to their development. I can get a lot more work done if I put 8 straight hours into it than if I do 3, think I'm going home for the day, and then have to come back in 5 hours later and have to do the other 5... You lose the flow.
Yeah, it shows that the show was truly his passion project and not just a cash grab
seemsfishy23 the show was okay
One of my favorite shows. He said he didn't want it to be over done like spongebob to the point where no one cares about it anymore. It's proof of how much he cared about the series and it's wonderful.
not really
We are getting a Community movie.
SIX. SEASONS. AND. A. MOVIE.
Do u still believe this?
@@littleguy8714 No 😔
@@luiginastro8831 🫶😔
parks and rec vs brooklyn nine nine (mike schur edition)
the apotheosis is upon us or Brooklyn nine nine versus the good place
parks and rec wins hands down. (change my mind)
@@hatwallet I'd say we shouldn't even compare them! Instead of "parks and rec *versus* b99", how about "parks and rec *and* b99"? Both are amazing in their own times.
I think you'd get a better analysis of each show if they were looked at together after establishing that both are excellent comedies, rather than one being better than the other.
(This shouldn't include b99 season 6 haha, it does a disservice to the writing of past seasons)
Jane H Perhaps I was thinking a little too much about Season 6 of B-99, which was lacklustre and subpar (compared to the previous seasons). I might have been a bit harsh because of that. However, I still think that Parks and Rec is a better show - this is not a comparison of comedy (I think they are both excellent comedies, as you said). I maintain that P&R has much more than comedy to offer. Whilst B-99 certainly does have heartwarming characters and relationships, I find that P&R has managed to characterise and show development and growth better. Whilst I like the characters of B-99, I like them for not much more than their ‘quirks’ and occasionally minority struggles.
Jane H I appreciate your enthusiasm and amity, though.
I’ve watched all of arrested development and none of community so I’m very excited to watch this video and be half confused
I have now binge watched all of community and holy shit he was absolutely right season 3 is a MASTERPIECE. 100% re-watching just that season before anything else
@@MarleneRodriguez711 season three is most definitely (imo) the best season
ive seen all of community but none of arrested development
@@emmaoof3335 just give it a try pal;)
Season 6 is the second best season imo, season 3 have consistent quality in each episode, but season 6 have the best episode... Season 2 and 3 is obviously Community prime, but Season 6 kinda bring something more.
you make such good videos man
Evan Edinger bruh, I love your profile picture 😂😂😂
evan!
Ily Evan
I once killed A man with my shoe thanks! Reppin Tanacon forever
@@evan wow okay then
Dude arrested development is heads above almost everything around at the same time. Just a shame it didn't get the popularity it deserved. Should get a movie after that ending too!
I feel like Community also lost a lot of its charm by losing 3 key members of the study group. Pierce wasn't a huge loss, but losing Troy and Shirley made the show feel a bit hollow.
Emma Bales Pierce in the first three seasons was an amazing character and possibly the funniest one
Pierce was the best...I only watched it for him...Also chevy is a comedy legend...
As two people have already mentioned, cheavy was the background guy who had a really big role, show felt so empty without him, Shirley didn't contribute much but troy was the end.
I don’t know what these other replies are about. Pierce’s sympathetic moments never outweighed the fact that his jokes and story arcs were consistently one-note and annoying; and Chevy Chase rarely seemed like he even wanted to be on the show.
But yes, season six felt off with so much of the original cast gone, and Pierce’s replacement from season five not coming back for season six didn’t help that “off” feeling. It was nice that Shirley made small appearances in the season six premier and finale.
I think Pierce was a really important character whereas i was pretty happy when shirley left because she really annoyed me from the start
This video made me watch both Arrested Development and Community and boi, that was the best decision I've made. Thaaaaanks Drew
Yeeesssss!!!!!! I'm so happy you got to experience them. What a gift
which episode would you say you got hooked on AD? i got to episode 8 and said fuck that, boringgg
For much of the success of the Russo Brothers in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, they got their experience working on both shows.
Alex Ander how could you say that AD 1st season was an absolute masterpiece
I often wish I could forget everything about Community, so I could experience watching it for the first time all over again
I’m currently re-watching arrested development and i’m at episode 15 of season 2 and i got hit by this coincidence not long after watching this youtube video. In the episode, Michael says: « you initially told us to design and build 22 homes now you are saying 18 ». This show is brilliant.
OH I JUST GOT THAT
WAIT woah
I’m rewatch I for the 3rd time - it’s new every time when you find jems like that !
I'm actually doing my 3rd rerun because someone suggested we watch it, and, sure, why not.
It falls off massively towards the end, but the amount of callbacks, running gags, references and just generally quotable lines in the first few seasons are amazing.
Or on season 3 how the pre finale episode its "Save the bluth" gala and they say stuff like "yeah hbo doesn't wanna anything to do with us" "I guess it's showtime then...we should put a show at the dinner" and how they added celebrity guest in that episode and the narrator kept begging to tell your friends about the show. Love how self-aware they were!
Community is streets ahead
#6seasonsandamovie
If you don't agree your streets behind
@@brambleleaves47 "You're streets behind" or "Your streets are behind"?
@@begonekneecaps1072 yes it should be the other you're but also who cares.
@@begonekneecaps1072 I you have to ask then you're streets behind.
Caitlyn Morgenstern Stop trying time coin that.
community is the best shit i have ever seen. to this day, i have tried to find something that comes close, but i just can’t, i would literally give anything to watch it for the first time again ugh😟😜
literally i've seen it 4-5 times now and catching easter eggs i've missed is always so entertaining