Yep. Tree roots either grow horizontally or vertically. Where I live, they grow horizontally and they attacked our drainage pipe (which, built in 1965, they used clay pipes) which cost a bit over $6k to replace. Trees and their roots pretty much keep growing until the tree dies, so each year those trees are pushing their way in, little by little.
The people who own this run a vacation company. This property actually has cabins and other facilities for people to come and vacation at so this property isn’t for sale and they only built this as part of that facility to rent out for people for vacations.
The Hocking Hills area is to Columbus, OH what Joshua Tree is to LA. It’s a popular park for people to get away from the city and go hiking, horseback riding etc. it’s also full of unique airbnbs that are vey popular. This was built from the ground up to be a vacation rental.
@jamielancaster01 oh I see. They have no intention of selling & only put the ridiculously low price to attract attention online & waste peoples time. That makes a lot more sense. Knowing the hyper inflation going on in the usa & seeing many 200k$ homes selling for 2mil$+. This cave home destined for a trust fund brat, would never be put for sale for les than a mil
I am super picky and since I’ve seen cave house before, my expectations were pretty low. This cave house Is gorgeous. Soooooo well done. Unbelievably beautiful. Bravo
If you thought Enes was a hype man for these properties Levi is on another level. Everything is amazing to him. I'm not a fan of him sounding like he's whispering to us. No neighbors for 40 acres I don't think he is going to disturb anyone.
It might be the effect of the forest. At Uni, we went to a forest for a field trip. In the midst of the tall trees and the silence and talking among ourselves, I had to ask, "Why are we whispering?" There was a big laugh, people tried to talk normally, but it was an effort.
@@markusgorelli5278 That's a funny story. I have family that work and live on a huge farm. As a kid every summer we would go and stay with them for a couple of weeks. The adults and the kids all spoke really loud. I always wondered why they spoke so loud I reasoned that it might be because they have to yell to each other when they are working the fields because it's just so huge and then it just becomes habit but I don't know.
Congrats on nearly 30k followers. People love your honest reviews and learning what to look for. I like the Enes ones best. Because I watch his channel too. House is pretty but my first thought was water...followed by bugs and you hit on both. Levi must be bored to death to count every book there. I think it's nice you plugged his channel.
I have the crickets in my basement ( we are built into the rock as well ) They are very shy , nice . And prefer to hide . You see one or two after the winter . Its NATURE and the House is Air bnb experience.
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial Right now, millennials and gen-zedders are screwed when it comes to having their own homes. It's so expensive these days, that the only options are usually stay living with parents or fill an apartment to the gills with as many roommates as the unit can accommodate. That said, buying a few acres with a cave or two and converting the cave into a house, or maybe just buying remote acreage and building a cabin or hut certainly are good ideas provided you have the skills to be self sufficient and can do without most modern conveniences.
I have developed for myself one rule for assessing design and architecture, which you may also like: “Design is a suit of convenience.” If you are not comfortable, this is a disgusting design. - Disgusting light over the pool table. It won't work even on a sunny day. Just remember the lights above the pool tables where everything is thought out. - Lighting here is a huge problem, everywhere, in every corner of this “edifice”. - Humidity will quickly kill the entire finish if the electricity goes out. Since here, in principle, there is no ventilation gap between the walls of the building and the rock, all the moisture is yours. And it has already been said that this is 60 liters per day. If you use simple ventilation instead of dehumidizers, your electricity bills will not decrease. - I don’t know what the climate is like in the Midwest, but for some reason I’m sure it’s quite cold. Behind the perimeter of the glazing you have the largest cold bridge in the history of construction. This means that on cold days there are huge flows of condensation, destroyed finishing in adjacent segments, and heating of the entire universe. Here we need a comment from a construction engineer, a heating engineering specialist.
I think you're right about the hot tub and fireplace in terms of design and taste, but this is a $300,000 property, so I think you're asking a little too much. Not that you're wrong, but your suggestions cost substantial amounts of money and that may be more appropriate for a future project rather than a reasonable expectation at the current price point.
‘Front heavy’ and ‘The furniture and decor are what you would expect in a cave.’ Classic! Those are probably the two main reasons I haven’t built a home in a cave. Great observations!
Well, ventilation would be my biggest concern too. Aside from the bathroom hotbox situation, I don't see any hob and hood above the stove, so cooking in there might really stink up the place if there's no moving air in the cave whatsoever. It might be bearable during the summer months, but when it's winter or it gets too cold to crack a sliding door, the smell situation could really get out of hand.
Hi Arvin As always, I am simply thrilled by your astute analysis of real estate. As a person with a visual background, your videos are always an enriching inspiration for me, including in my creative work. Your analysis is always razor-sharp, to the point and never unfair. I agree 100 percent with your visual observations of the issues and the to-the-point deficiencies in the designs, layouts and architectural decisions. I also think it's nice that, despite your sometimes harsh criticism, you always emphasize the good, the beautiful and the successful. Thank you for your great videos and educational videos. best regards, michael from switzerland
We love our Hocking Hills! There's at least a 1 year wait to rent the cave house. And yes, they've had water issues in the house. No need for a backyard when you have that as your front yard! I agree, they could have done more to the front, hammocks and "in ground" hot tub.
Hey Arvin. I've watched many of your videos and i appreciate this longer form version. RUclips encourages people to be a sort of fast paced " top 3 " this and it brings this sort of high intense energy. It's fine and those videos are great. I think these videos show even more of your patient, quite, still observant side that gives me at least more of an idea of whom you are from the conversational side as opposed to the high-energy get everything in within 5 minutes. I feel that we are on a home tour with you as well. You're very intelligent, funny, and have given me a greater perspective of what makes a home not luxury, luxury and ultra-luxury. Keep up the good work habibi!
Back rooms can require exhaust and emergency lighting system as there back part may not be able to get sufficient sunlight and I don’t think that anyone would like to get exhaust in their bedroom which can even make a lot of noise.
A courtesy flush or two would go a long way to alleviating the fecal smell. You are really good at pointing out the faults and the pluses that other people would miss, like myself.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867 that's an insane waste of energy to be honest. The energy bill must be through the roof. At the very least $450-600 a month. HUGE waste of energy.
Nice house I like it. The lack of extractor fans in bathrooms and above the stove is a huge issue for smells and humidity. Sacrificing a little aesthetic for ductwork with a fresh air system would probably make this house amazing to live in. Aside from the crickets lol
caves are usually formed by water dissolving rock, typically seasonally. I really hope that they have done their research about water flows. How porous is the rock? are there tiny tunnels where humans cant go but that allow water into the bottom of the cave.
We'd all like to know! Maybe you can bring Mikey on as a guest for some episodes Arvin! Haha. Thanks for all your content, love your channel and hearing your expertise on things most buyers may not consider! All the best 🙏
Haha the “hotbox” bathroom comment is hilarious, and agreed on the hot tub. The $300K price point is amazing but the impression I get is the owners aren’t selling? If they are trying to sell, this is a great property to own for AirBnB. I heard the owners made back their $300K within the same year they bought it. Perhaps you’ve landed on a new investment market - Cave Houses for Flipping, haha! Keep ‘em coming
15:00 In Montreal Canada we get cold winters. Some people heat their houses purely from radiant heated floors, costs a lot for installation but does provide great heat for a house.
I am thinking - u could make separate office space or lounge area on top of the cave as well. Plus, maybe there are ways to reduce how much rain falls right above the cave with some hidden roof or maybe even a wooden deck (with a roof below it which directs rainfall to the side), then you could have an elevated jacuzzi, extra living, office and entertainment space? I get it will take a bit away from the natural look (but not too much) and I feel like it will resolve a number of issues, cause I feel like the "leaky roof" will definitely be next level there...
Water intrusion would be a huge issue for me. No way that place stays dry. Really cool though, and I 100% agree on the fro t needed a cool deck and even an outdoor kitchen. Definitely should of been a sunken hot tub/jacuzzi.
More cave house reviews please. Levi's channel is great and would love to see you review more modest homes that are architecturally innovative. There's a famous cave-digging artist and his caves were turned into homes, curious your take on it. Very affordable yet unique.
They could've removed all of the soil above, along with some loose rocks, by hand, put 5 layers of pond liner, cover the liner with a little less of the soil & rocks to save weight. The trees can be worked around. Then, they'd have reduced their humidity by 90%. But they'd still need a dehumidifier, just not 4. If there's a leak, remove the trees and line it all.
Great video, Arvin! When is a cave really just a rock covered opening as opposed to a place that was once solid but over a long time was made underground and includes stalagmites and stalactites. Caves usually contain many beautiful formations. Please forgive me because I am no geologist or cave expert, but I have toured many walkable caves in the USA. This house was built in a rock overhang and it’s a perfect place for a cliff dwelling like one would find in the deserts of Colorado, Utah and Arizona. Visit Mesa Verde National Park in southwestern Colorado.
Hi Arvin. Found your channel a week ago. Love your content and perspective. I hope your channel will grow. Please don’t go “Hollywood” and pander. Sincerity and being genuine is key, imo. Like or love, agree or disagree I have to believe your opinions are genuine!
Bro your channel is honestly really entertaining, Love it. Keep up the good work please and also can we have a daily release schedule? that would be awesome.
i think one of the main aspects of a weekend home is to change your mood, and transport you to another world where u disconnect ...this property does that
About the 15 gallons a day: I live in a normally sized (about 2300 sft) home in Michigan. In summer I will discard about 8 gallons of water per day from the dehumidifier in my finished basement. Which is obviously not a cave. Summers are just very humid in the Midwest. My electricity bill is ok though 😊
If Neil Patrick and Mark Wahlberg had a baby, the result would be this guy. I love his videos. You crack me up with your sense of humor, Arvin. Another great video.
Started watching you since you had 2k subs, great to see you growing. Love to see these new videos where you critic these mansions and houses in detail. One suggestion i would like to give is that you should criticise popular houses more often so that you get more views aswell.
As an unfrozen caveman lawyer who was thawed by your scientists, when I see the moving pictures on the book shelf, I ask myself "Are there demons inside?"
😊 hi again. i found this from a year to the day yesterday. Of course Arvin is 100% spot on “A COUPLE turned a cave into a family home - but say a "lot of hard work" went into banishing bad smells. Bryant and Amy Gingerich built a luxury 1,500sq ft cave home for their family of five - but have to fend off dripping ceilings and an "earthy" atmosphere.”
Agreed, bathroom ventilation seems like a major issue. Further to that point, it doesnt seem the drainage system has a ventilation stack for he methane as required by modern building code. Perhaps there is a way to drill a one hole going into the bathroom with a high powered fan venting out the bathroom beside a stack for the toilet venting out the methane. With a modest investment it seems the outside front of the home has alot of potential to create an outdoor living space perhaps with a Finnish woodburning Sauna, Cold Plunge, and a beautiful in ground hot tub perhaps made of dark slate, and than an area to have bbq's , a smoker,and perhaps a pizza oven, and than a beautiful lounge area for campires , and budget permitting a rustic in ground pool. and than an area for a small garden.
Well know your use case first: If you plan an Airbnb don't go too expensive on the material as wear-and-tear will be high. And they really nailed the design here. My guess is that the rental yields are pretty good for this property, especially with all the media coverage. Homeownership in the major US cities really requires you to go full risk and hopefully make it with your startup (which is tough... in the early days of my startup I often slept on trains as I couldn't afford hotels) as otherwise you'll never own a home. Or start "looking for a man in finance"... Another option is geo-arbitrage if you look at what properties you can get in South-East-Asia where prices however are rising very fast too! Funny enough that I just watched another beautiful, modern "cave-home" yesterday while on a flight. Admittedly though only the basement is styled like a cave and I am not sure how much it really goes into that hill in this case. Plus the style is very much the opposite of this one as it's very glass-and-steel heavy as to be expected if you know Jean Nouvel (Enes: "Touring a $52,500,000 BATMAN Inspired Glass and Steel Mansion in Saint Jean Cap Ferrat")...
This one was pretty well done and built, i mean to be a natural place, they think about the most important which is comfort and match the interior theme with external area, Perhaps for the ventilation of the bathrooms it would have been better to use underground ventilation And personally I would have put the jacuzzi on the opposite side and a kind of waterfall design along the wall, I don't know but overall considering the location, this is the house with the fewest flaws we have seen.
My house has cave crickets in the basement and garage. Little buggers are everywhere here in the midwest. If you live here you are going to have them in your house whether you live in a cave or not. At least they don't chirp like field crickets do.
I think it's perfect for the mission. Airbnb you book it for what? 2, 3 nights? Is it really accumulating a quantity of water that would bother someone? Even tho it's premium pricing it's still a cave, gotta take it as a quirk
I think this cave house is beautiful and would gladly spend a cozy weekend here. As you pointed out, there are definite limitations. I am curious about insuring such a place. How does one go about buying a homeowner's policy for a cave?
Seems like if you just send a duct from that bathroom vent directly to the outside, you could bypass whatever odors could come from the bathroom and prevent them from saturating the entire place. Letting it vent directly into the bedroom is definitely iffy. Seems like an oversight. The other problems don't seem to have a good solution at all. Maybe coat the entire rock facade in resin so you get the look, but it's all sealed off properly.
The bathroom vents I think could of been dealt with by running a duct along the ceiling against the dividing walls. Have it concealed with framed box out to the front and have vents above the windows you could even cut out a small opening for it. Or you could carve a vent channel along the ceiling and just cover the bottom in fact that could work real well cut the box passage out then cut a small channel on each side near the bottom and slide in the panel of you choice . Drive way Id have cut a turn around into the rock slope. Your right about the fire pit and the hot tub and the grill all should of been built ins. Other thing would be a garage if a cave was close enough make it into a garage. As far as water getting in it may not even be an issue. If there are no real cracks then it might not even have a way in. Also its plenty thick above so any water may get trapped only to have the tree roots suck it up. Also its sloped most water will be lost to run off before it ever has a chance to soak into the roof.
As a house to vacation in I think it would be fantastic. It looks lovely and great interior. It’s fun. BUT as an owner it would be a maintenance nightmare and I would never buy one.
Ok so if the roof leaked and was a water dripping problem. Instead of an exposed roof you would build an interior roof that would shed any water to the edges for a sump to collect and pump out. Basically a roofed house inside a cave. But alas solid stone not a water seeping mess.
I’ve been watching Levi’s channel for a while. His channel reviews AirBnB looking for the best most unusual places. There are a lot of cave homes all over the world, as well as all the technology from all the caves that have hundreds of thousands of visitors every year. Technology for caves are incredible. This property is not for sale. It cost $300K for the buildout. There are other buildings on this property that are for rent as well. Enjoy
I don't think you would ever want to open the front doors in this house. You will have half a billion mosquitoes inside your house for the rest of summer within two seconds. I suppose if you live in a cave house you should already be familiar with centipedes and other high moisture bugs so it might not concert the residents. I love the interior design.
It's a great looking place. I like that they avoided the expected cabin décor, and went more elegant. However I don't really like that kitchen island. It looks like a piece of mobile office furniture. Not liking the practical drawer handles. And overall I'd prefer brass accents rather than gold. 6:28
Just throwing out random ideas, I don't know if you can do this upside down without it dripping horribly, but could they have coated the ceiling in several layers of some kind of clear resin or something? something to where it's going to seal and stop the water problem and the smell without necessarily taking away from the view of the ceilings? That bathroom problem is a doozey though lol
It is an awesome property but my concern would be mold and mildew. Dehumidifiers are expensive to have running all the time but you can never turn them off or this interior would be destroyed rather quickly. I don't think water will actually "leak" in but it will constantly leach in. Without serious de-humidification, the ceilings would be wet with condensation. I just don't think the ventilation is adequate.
You could us ev battery to beef up the energy thru charge controller that is needed to run dehumidifiers. Furthermore they have solar panels. No ac is needed. I think it is not so expensive. The water collected can be used for flushing toilets.
Many great points as usual with Arvin. Nevertheless, log cabin life is very similar. Camping is very similar. As Arvin says this place for the price is good for a secondary vacation home or an Air BnB rental income place. Yes you are going to battle leaks but that is the name of the game if you yearn for the wilderness life. I think that for the price, this place is a money maker. I think I heard a price of $300k? But I think that that is the build price not including the 34 acres. I wonder how much is the whole deal cost?
Arvin usually knows his stuff when it comes to design styles so I’m a bit surprised he didn’t pick up on the dark academia, cuz that is how you properly call the ‘Harry Potter’ vibe. xD
Interesting novelty. I’m a Hollywood Hills native who has been through some house damaging earthquakes, and knowing your escape route is second nature. I have almost a natural aversion to caves, they make me anxious. I’ll pass. Also, they could have avoided the “hotboxing” situation by running ventilation under the floors, where they obviously drain the 15 gallons a day from the dehumidifiers. Bats, mildew cave smell, and gas appliances in a cave. Pass. Thank you Arvin, always interesting.
Which is not a bad idea since the water would both soft and clean if the dehumidifiers are high end (very likely), ideal for washing machines and cleaning.
15 gallons of water is how much professional dehumidifiers (the ones which are loud as a plane engine) produce in a flooded basement in one week. This tells us that you smell the humidity inside all the time.
Your long format videos are the best!! Definitely more educational that 90% of other Real Estate videos on RUclips!
Great Channel!
thanks will keep them coming
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial Amazing!! thanks my friend!
Yeah love the long format
1964: I bet we’ll have flying cars in the near future!
2024: We’re back to living in caves…
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Roots have a tendency to find little cracks and crevice in rocks. Those roots would make them bigger and water seeps in.
@@mazhar1980 Today's American home repair includes lots of spackle, duct tape and paint to cover imperfections.
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Nice home made from a cage. Slip? Maybe.
Yep. Tree roots either grow horizontally or vertically. Where I live, they grow horizontally and they attacked our drainage pipe (which, built in 1965, they used clay pipes) which cost a bit over $6k to replace. Trees and their roots pretty much keep growing until the tree dies, so each year those trees are pushing their way in, little by little.
This home will always be an Airbnb
Hashtag why
The people who own this run a vacation company. This property actually has cabins and other facilities for people to come and vacation at so this property isn’t for sale and they only built this as part of that facility to rent out for people for vacations.
The Hocking Hills area is to Columbus, OH what Joshua Tree is to LA. It’s a popular park for people to get away from the city and go hiking, horseback riding etc. it’s also full of unique airbnbs that are vey popular. This was built from the ground up to be a vacation rental.
@jamielancaster01 oh I see. They have no intention of selling & only put the ridiculously low price to attract attention online & waste peoples time. That makes a lot more sense. Knowing the hyper inflation going on in the usa & seeing many 200k$ homes selling for 2mil$+. This cave home destined for a trust fund brat, would never be put for sale for les than a mil
it is and it starts at 800/night! Plus cleaning fee! lmao
I am super picky and since I’ve seen cave house before, my expectations were pretty low. This cave house Is gorgeous. Soooooo well done. Unbelievably beautiful. Bravo
It’s 2am here on the East coast but I’d be damned if I’m going to bed before I watch Arvin’s new video!
ur my man
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial Great channel, greetings from Belgium.
The bathroom hotbox situation killed the whole vibe for me 😅
So nice that you are giving so many positive comments! Makes it much more enjoyable to watch!
My first Arvin vid, I never realised how positive of a review this actually is compared to the avg video
If you thought Enes was a hype man for these properties Levi is on another level. Everything is amazing to him. I'm not a fan of him sounding like he's whispering to us. No neighbors for 40 acres I don't think he is going to disturb anyone.
It might be the effect of the forest. At Uni, we went to a forest for a field trip. In the midst of the tall trees and the silence and talking among ourselves, I had to ask, "Why are we whispering?" There was a big laugh, people tried to talk normally, but it was an effort.
Enes couldn't stop telling you all therocks on the ceilings were bookmatched.
Well Levi tours much cheaper homes so the standards aren't as high anyways. Let the man enjoy cabins lmao
@@markusgorelli5278 That's a funny story. I have family that work and live on a huge farm. As a kid every summer we would go and stay with them for a couple of weeks. The adults and the kids all spoke really loud. I always wondered why they spoke so loud I reasoned that it might be because they have to yell to each other when they are working the fields because it's just so huge and then it just becomes habit but I don't know.
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Congrats on nearly 30k followers. People love your honest reviews and learning what to look for. I like the Enes ones best. Because I watch his channel too.
House is pretty but my first thought was water...followed by bugs and you hit on both.
Levi must be bored to death to count every book there. I think it's nice you plugged his channel.
Thanks I feel like he sells the feeling of living there more than the features of the space
I have the crickets in my basement ( we are built into the rock as well )
They are very shy , nice . And prefer to hide . You see one or two after the winter . Its NATURE and the House is Air bnb experience.
What a start: "those who cannot afford a house... are forced to buy a cave" So good. 🙂
Options are limited right now for first time home buyers
@@ArvinHaddadOfficial Right now, millennials and gen-zedders are screwed when it comes to having their own homes. It's so expensive these days, that the only options are usually stay living with parents or fill an apartment to the gills with as many roommates as the unit can accommodate. That said, buying a few acres with a cave or two and converting the cave into a house, or maybe just buying remote acreage and building a cabin or hut certainly are good ideas provided you have the skills to be self sufficient and can do without most modern conveniences.
I have developed for myself one rule for assessing design and architecture, which you may also like: “Design is a suit of convenience.” If you are not comfortable, this is a disgusting design.
- Disgusting light over the pool table. It won't work even on a sunny day. Just remember the lights above the pool tables where everything is thought out.
- Lighting here is a huge problem, everywhere, in every corner of this “edifice”.
- Humidity will quickly kill the entire finish if the electricity goes out. Since here, in principle, there is no ventilation gap between the walls of the building and the rock, all the moisture is yours. And it has already been said that this is 60 liters per day. If you use simple ventilation instead of dehumidizers, your electricity bills will not decrease.
- I don’t know what the climate is like in the Midwest, but for some reason I’m sure it’s quite cold. Behind the perimeter of the glazing you have the largest cold bridge in the history of construction. This means that on cold days there are huge flows of condensation, destroyed finishing in adjacent segments, and heating of the entire universe. Here we need a comment from a construction engineer, a heating engineering specialist.
Didn't read.
I think you're right about the hot tub and fireplace in terms of design and taste, but this is a $300,000 property, so I think you're asking a little too much. Not that you're wrong, but your suggestions cost substantial amounts of money and that may be more appropriate for a future project rather than a reasonable expectation at the current price point.
ya you have a point
As Enes would say, your commentary was incredible.
‘Front heavy’ and ‘The furniture and decor are what you would expect in a cave.’ Classic! Those are probably the two main reasons I haven’t built a home in a cave. Great observations!
Well, ventilation would be my biggest concern too. Aside from the bathroom hotbox situation, I don't see any hob and hood above the stove, so cooking in there might really stink up the place if there's no moving air in the cave whatsoever. It might be bearable during the summer months, but when it's winter or it gets too cold to crack a sliding door, the smell situation could really get out of hand.
Bathroom ventilation & Cave Crickets 😱killed it for me.
Hi Arvin
As always, I am simply thrilled by your astute analysis of real estate. As a person with a visual background, your videos are always an enriching inspiration for me, including in my creative work. Your analysis is always razor-sharp, to the point and never unfair. I agree 100 percent with your visual observations of the issues and the to-the-point deficiencies in the designs, layouts and architectural decisions. I also think it's nice that, despite your sometimes harsh criticism, you always emphasize the good, the beautiful and the successful. Thank you for your great videos and educational videos. best regards, michael from switzerland
We love our Hocking Hills! There's at least a 1 year wait to rent the cave house. And yes, they've had water issues in the house. No need for a backyard when you have that as your front yard! I agree, they could have done more to the front, hammocks and "in ground" hot tub.
Glad you're featuring Levi. I love his channel
i like his channel too
Hey Arvin. I've watched many of your videos and i appreciate this longer form version. RUclips encourages people to be a sort of fast paced " top 3 " this and it brings this sort of high intense energy. It's fine and those videos are great. I think these videos show even more of your patient, quite, still observant side that gives me at least more of an idea of whom you are from the conversational side as opposed to the high-energy get everything in within 5 minutes. I feel that we are on a home tour with you as well. You're very intelligent, funny, and have given me a greater perspective of what makes a home not luxury, luxury and ultra-luxury. Keep up the good work habibi!
Thanks Habibi ❤️🙏🏼
Yallah! Heres to the end of long hallways and tract homes lol
*who you are, not whom
Back rooms can require exhaust and emergency lighting system as there back part may not be able to get sufficient sunlight and I don’t think that anyone would like to get exhaust in their bedroom which can even make a lot of noise.
LOVE THE HOUSE ! Thank you for posting ! AMAZING AIR BNB PROPERTY .
A courtesy flush or two would go a long way to alleviating the fecal smell. You are really good at pointing out the faults and the pluses that other people would miss, like myself.
Yeh good manners to flush straight after each log plops into the water, especially if you're one to sit on the throne for a bit.
15 gallons of water a day? Damn! that dehumidifier better not break down
theres four them
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867 that's an insane waste of energy to be honest. The energy bill must be through the roof. At the very least $450-600 a month. HUGE waste of energy.
@@raiden72 They need those humidifiers to the roof indeed.
@@raiden72 Energy cannot be wasted. It goes from one form to another, and always, someone gives money, and someone receives money.
Nice house I like it.
The lack of extractor fans in bathrooms and above the stove is a huge issue for smells and humidity. Sacrificing a little aesthetic for ductwork with a fresh air system would probably make this house amazing to live in. Aside from the crickets lol
caves are usually formed by water dissolving rock, typically seasonally. I really hope that they have done their research about water flows. How porous is the rock? are there tiny tunnels where humans cant go but that allow water into the bottom of the cave.
Where’s mikey tho 😂
We have to wait for that video
Buried under the cave 😂
We'd all like to know! Maybe you can bring Mikey on as a guest for some episodes Arvin! Haha. Thanks for all your content, love your channel and hearing your expertise on things most buyers may not consider! All the best 🙏
He left because Enes can't enunciate words with TH... Like Leather.
Arvin forgets it's priced at 300K.
Cave crickets! No thanks. After seeing what they look like, getting a good nights sleep, not happening. Really enjoyed your critiques Arvin.
Haha the “hotbox” bathroom comment is hilarious, and agreed on the hot tub. The $300K price point is amazing but the impression I get is the owners aren’t selling?
If they are trying to sell, this is a great property to own for AirBnB. I heard the owners made back their $300K within the same year they bought it.
Perhaps you’ve landed on a new investment market - Cave Houses for Flipping, haha! Keep ‘em coming
15:00 In Montreal Canada we get cold winters. Some people heat their houses purely from radiant heated floors, costs a lot for installation but does provide great heat for a house.
Cheaper to run once installed?
@@alexgamble4718 overall it will run you the same amount as any other method of heating, the only difference is your feet are always warm
Another excellent video thank you buddy
I am thinking - u could make separate office space or lounge area on top of the cave as well. Plus, maybe there are ways to reduce how much rain falls right above the cave with some hidden roof or maybe even a wooden deck (with a roof below it which directs rainfall to the side), then you could have an elevated jacuzzi, extra living, office and entertainment space? I get it will take a bit away from the natural look (but not too much) and I feel like it will resolve a number of issues, cause I feel like the "leaky roof" will definitely be next level there...
Water intrusion would be a huge issue for me. No way that place stays dry. Really cool though, and I 100% agree on the fro t needed a cool deck and even an outdoor kitchen. Definitely should of been a sunken hot tub/jacuzzi.
More cave house reviews please. Levi's channel is great and would love to see you review more modest homes that are architecturally innovative. There's a famous cave-digging artist and his caves were turned into homes, curious your take on it. Very affordable yet unique.
They could've removed all of the soil above, along with some loose rocks, by hand, put 5 layers of pond liner, cover the liner with a little less of the soil & rocks to save weight. The trees can be worked around. Then, they'd have reduced their humidity by 90%. But they'd still need a dehumidifier, just not 4.
If there's a leak, remove the trees and line it all.
if you've been on cave tours, you'll see the same ground lighting. very beautiful
Love the way you mention Enes and Mikey...💞
Great video, Arvin!
When is a cave really just a rock covered opening as opposed to a place that was once solid but over a long time was made underground and includes stalagmites and stalactites. Caves usually contain many beautiful formations. Please forgive me because I am no geologist or cave expert, but I have toured many walkable caves in the USA.
This house was built in a rock overhang and it’s a perfect place for a cliff dwelling like one would find in the deserts of Colorado, Utah and Arizona. Visit Mesa Verde National Park in southwestern Colorado.
Hi Arvin. Found your channel a week ago. Love your content and perspective. I hope your channel will grow. Please don’t go “Hollywood” and pander. Sincerity and being genuine is key, imo. Like or love, agree or disagree I have to believe your opinions are genuine!
Bro your channel is honestly really entertaining, Love it. Keep up the good work please and also can we have a daily release schedule? that would be awesome.
Working on it! Thanks for the support?
I love how they designed the interior!
I am from Missouri and love this house but I bet it has its challenges.
This is honestly a great second home for a weekend escape.
i think one of the main aspects of a weekend home is to change your mood, and transport you to another world where u disconnect ...this property does that
About the 15 gallons a day: I live in a normally sized (about 2300 sft) home in Michigan. In summer I will discard about 8 gallons of water per day from the dehumidifier in my finished basement. Which is obviously not a cave. Summers are just very humid in the Midwest. My electricity bill is ok though 😊
If Neil Patrick and Mark Wahlberg had a baby, the result would be this guy. I love his videos. You crack me up with your sense of humor, Arvin. Another great video.
Except from the moisture… looks pretty awesome.
Started watching you since you had 2k subs, great to see you growing. Love to see these new videos where you critic these mansions and houses in detail. One suggestion i would like to give is that you should criticise popular houses more often so that you get more views aswell.
As an unfrozen caveman lawyer who was thawed by your scientists, when I see the moving pictures on the book shelf, I ask myself "Are there demons inside?"
"The theme in here is dark academia, when the TVs off. When the TVs on, 'Come on down! YOU'RE the next contestant on the Price is Right!'" 6:20
Hey not scared of collecting 15 gallons a day of filtered water. You nailed the hot tub situation. That front area is pretty neglected
The gold details against the dark walls look so good
And the burgundy room! Wow. It looks like a vampire lives there.
We spent thousands of years getting out of caves, there's no way I'm going to stay in one now
I LOVE this house!
Good video as always.. 🇿🇦
😊 hi again. i found this from a year to the day yesterday. Of course Arvin is 100% spot on
“A COUPLE turned a cave into a family home - but say a "lot of hard work" went into banishing bad smells.
Bryant and Amy Gingerich built a luxury 1,500sq ft cave home for their family of five - but have to fend off dripping ceilings and an "earthy" atmosphere.”
Arvin.... Bugs!! Nope. They might have a hard time just trying to give Cave House away! Bloody hell!
those bugs are nasty
Agreed, bathroom ventilation seems like a major issue. Further to that point, it doesnt seem the drainage system has a ventilation stack for he methane as required by modern building code. Perhaps there is a way to drill a one hole going into the bathroom with a high powered fan venting out the bathroom beside a stack for the toilet venting out the methane. With a modest investment it seems the outside front of the home has alot of potential to create an outdoor living space perhaps with a Finnish woodburning Sauna, Cold Plunge, and a beautiful in ground hot tub perhaps made of dark slate, and than an area to have bbq's , a smoker,and perhaps a pizza oven, and than a beautiful lounge area for campires , and budget permitting a rustic in ground pool. and than an area for a small garden.
Well know your use case first: If you plan an Airbnb don't go too expensive on the material as wear-and-tear will be high. And they really nailed the design here. My guess is that the rental yields are pretty good for this property, especially with all the media coverage.
Homeownership in the major US cities really requires you to go full risk and hopefully make it with your startup (which is tough... in the early days of my startup I often slept on trains as I couldn't afford hotels) as otherwise you'll never own a home. Or start "looking for a man in finance"...
Another option is geo-arbitrage if you look at what properties you can get in South-East-Asia where prices however are rising very fast too!
Funny enough that I just watched another beautiful, modern "cave-home" yesterday while on a flight. Admittedly though only the basement is styled like a cave and I am not sure how much it really goes into that hill in this case. Plus the style is very much the opposite of this one as it's very glass-and-steel heavy as to be expected if you know Jean Nouvel (Enes: "Touring a $52,500,000 BATMAN Inspired Glass and Steel Mansion in Saint Jean Cap Ferrat")...
Burgundy wallpaper in bedroom is flocked wallpaper. Commercially available.
This one was pretty well done and built, i mean to be a natural place, they think about the most important which is comfort and match the interior theme with external area, Perhaps for the ventilation of the bathrooms it would have been better to use underground ventilation And personally I would have put the jacuzzi on the opposite side and a kind of waterfall design along the wall, I don't know but overall considering the location, this is the house with the fewest flaws we have seen.
I started laughing so hard right as you looked into the camera after pausing on the second cave
I agree that the hot tub should be moved off the front deck and place a dining situation in it's place next to the grill.
15:50 If there is a big rain I want to know how much water flow from of the top of the rocks. As it's look like hill side, what about mudslide?
My house has cave crickets in the basement and garage. Little buggers are everywhere here in the midwest. If you live here you are going to have them in your house whether you live in a cave or not. At least they don't chirp like field crickets do.
I think it's perfect for the mission.
Airbnb you book it for what? 2, 3 nights? Is it really accumulating a quantity of water that would bother someone? Even tho it's premium pricing it's still a cave, gotta take it as a quirk
"You can just push the front doors all the way open, which gives the bears easy access to your family and loved ones." 12:00
I think this cave house is beautiful and would gladly spend a cozy weekend here. As you pointed out, there are definite limitations. I am curious about insuring such a place. How does one go about buying a homeowner's policy for a cave?
Seems like if you just send a duct from that bathroom vent directly to the outside, you could bypass whatever odors could come from the bathroom and prevent them from saturating the entire place. Letting it vent directly into the bedroom is definitely iffy. Seems like an oversight. The other problems don't seem to have a good solution at all. Maybe coat the entire rock facade in resin so you get the look, but it's all sealed off properly.
you can tell Arvin secretly loves this house by his stair/smile while watching the video
Stair…???
"I took the time to count all the books." And by that I mean I counted all the books on one shelf and multiplied by 14 shelves." 8:53
finally a house in my price range :P
The recessed lighting on the floor was most likely out of necessity as the ceiling would have become too busy and messy with exposed wiring.
The bathroom vents I think could of been dealt with by running a duct along the ceiling against the dividing walls. Have it concealed with framed box out to the front and have vents above the windows you could even cut out a small opening for it. Or you could carve a vent channel along the ceiling and just cover the bottom in fact that could work real well cut the box passage out then cut a small channel on each side near the bottom and slide in the panel of you choice . Drive way Id have cut a turn around into the rock slope. Your right about the fire pit and the hot tub and the grill all should of been built ins. Other thing would be a garage if a cave was close enough make it into a garage. As far as water getting in it may not even be an issue. If there are no real cracks then it might not even have a way in. Also its plenty thick above so any water may get trapped only to have the tree roots suck it up. Also its sloped most water will be lost to run off before it ever has a chance to soak into the roof.
As a house to vacation in I think it would be fantastic. It looks lovely and great interior. It’s fun. BUT as an owner it would be a maintenance nightmare and I would never buy one.
smarter everday....because of Arvin. There are some Toronto Real Estate RUclipsrs that are piggybacking off your format now. You're a trend setter.
@ Arvin,
He looks like a young
Tim Robbin’s.
I thought he looked familiar too. I had to figure it out. They have a lot of cave homes in Spain
Well executed for sure. Not sure about the air circulation, smell and moisture.
"You're screwed. Gotta buy a cave!" Hilarious!
Ok so if the roof leaked and was a water dripping problem. Instead of an exposed roof you would build an interior roof that would shed any water to the edges for a sump to collect and pump out. Basically a roofed house inside a cave. But alas solid stone not a water seeping mess.
In reality, Humans always avoided living in caves for obvious reasons.
Mostly did it temporarily when didn’t have a choice.
I love how you took a cheap shot at Enes in a non-enes video.
I’ve been watching Levi’s channel for a while. His channel reviews AirBnB looking for the best most unusual places.
There are a lot of cave homes all over the world, as well as all the technology from all the caves that have hundreds of thousands of visitors every year. Technology for caves are incredible.
This property is not for sale. It cost $300K for the buildout. There are other buildings on this property that are for rent as well.
Enjoy
I don't think you would ever want to open the front doors in this house. You will have half a billion mosquitoes inside your house for the rest of summer within two seconds. I suppose if you live in a cave house you should already be familiar with centipedes and other high moisture bugs so it might not concert the residents. I love the interior design.
It's a great looking place. I like that they avoided the expected cabin décor, and went more elegant. However I don't really like that kitchen island. It looks like a piece of mobile office furniture. Not liking the practical drawer handles. And overall I'd prefer brass accents rather than gold. 6:28
good stuff arvin. Def wouldn't mind some more airbnb reviews to get a break from enes and his gorgeous views/cantilever features, etc. lol
thanks i agree
Perfect timing because I was thinking at least I can afford a cave 😂
If not for the leaks, bugs, and the dubious ventilation I'd move in tomorrow.
Just throwing out random ideas, I don't know if you can do this upside down without it dripping horribly, but could they have coated the ceiling in several layers of some kind of clear resin or something? something to where it's going to seal and stop the water problem and the smell without necessarily taking away from the view of the ceilings? That bathroom problem is a doozey though lol
the jacuzzi looks like a giant open beer cooler left in front of the house
Great stuff, just waiting for the Mikey explainer though lol
Cant they spray the roof with some latex kind o stuff or some sort of plastic and then plaster over that to keep the moisture contained ?
It is an awesome property but my concern would be mold and mildew. Dehumidifiers are expensive to have running all the time but you can never turn them off or this interior would be destroyed rather quickly. I don't think water will actually "leak" in but it will constantly leach in. Without serious de-humidification, the ceilings would be wet with condensation. I just don't think the ventilation is adequate.
You could us ev battery to beef up the energy thru charge controller that is needed to run dehumidifiers. Furthermore they have solar panels. No ac is needed. I think it is not so expensive. The water collected can be used for flushing toilets.
Many great points as usual with Arvin. Nevertheless, log cabin life is very similar. Camping is very similar. As Arvin says this place for the price is good for a secondary vacation home or an Air BnB rental income place. Yes you are going to battle leaks but that is the name of the game if you yearn for the wilderness life. I think that for the price, this place is a money maker. I think I heard a price of $300k? But I think that that is the build price not including the 34 acres. I wonder how much is the whole deal cost?
It’s only 1500 sqft😱 Arvin’s L shaped home in Venice Beach has more than 1500 sqft in closets!
Arvin usually knows his stuff when it comes to design styles so I’m a bit surprised he didn’t pick up on the dark academia, cuz that is how you properly call the ‘Harry Potter’ vibe. xD
Interesting novelty. I’m a Hollywood Hills native who has been through some house damaging earthquakes, and knowing your escape route is second nature. I have almost a natural aversion to caves, they make me anxious. I’ll pass.
Also, they could have avoided the “hotboxing” situation by running ventilation under the floors, where they obviously drain the 15 gallons a day from the dehumidifiers.
Bats, mildew cave smell, and gas appliances in a cave. Pass.
Thank you Arvin, always interesting.
Where do they get their WATER supply? Let me guess - they are recycling the 15 gallons of water that they’re pulling out of the air😮
Which is not a bad idea since the water would both soft and clean if the dehumidifiers are high end (very likely), ideal for washing machines and cleaning.
@@bentalexranebundgaard4867 There are other cabins & buildings on this property the owners rent out to vacationers, so I’m sure it’s all on well water
15 gallons of water is how much professional dehumidifiers (the ones which are loud as a plane engine) produce in a flooded basement in one week. This tells us that you smell the humidity inside all the time.