Or you can just use a $30 propane torch and fittings that cost half the price. The expensive tool and fittings make sense if you’re doing emergency repairs all the time where the time is more important than the money, or working with lines that are not shut off and need to stop the water fast, but for day to day, I don’t know who would waste the money on copper for a Pex fitting.
@@johngaltline9933Yes. If one is just a homeowner and having to solder in something is still cheaper than the manual tool. Once one is at home time isn't money. It's going to come out of your leisure time.
Being hydraulic doesn't limit it being cheap does. It could have 3 or 4 articulating sections and a short fat ram, fit into walls with an external hose and pump and still be less than $2500.
I have one of these are the are great. Mine was $125. That version is the older version and the newer version takes normal B press tools. It get it, the electric tool is way better. But for someone who requires a B press tool every 6 months I can’t justify the cost and renting the tool is annoying. For $125 the value is insane!!
It’s for those of us who need/want to use a propress for a project/repair but will never really use it again after. I have no need for the M18 propress even tho I have all M18 stuff. I’ll never use it, I don’t do plumbing often.
I do commercial facilities work, this is the kinda thing I’d buy. Propress is useful enough for me to use, but not worth the 5-6 plumber service calls the M18 tool can pay for.
I learned about pex in 2006 when I started remodeling my house. Home Depot and Lowe's didn't even have it back then. I bought a giant crimper from a commercial plumbing store. Still have it, still sucks trying to crimp inside walls.
If you buy enough fittings the supplier will give you a propress tool. My company bought 5k in fittings and they gave us a m18 tool and a standard set of refrigeration jaws. They now have a loyal customer that will continue to buy fittings from them.
I imagine this is not a tool meant for professionals like you. Sooner or later, alternatives to the very expensive tools of our respective trades are usually found. Thank you for testing this!
I bought the ibossad one off of Amazon for a personal home remodel. It was able to do 1/2 and 3/4 tees. So far, a year later, none of my fittings are leaking.
I tried one of these and every single joint I made ended up leaking after a few weeks because it doesn't crimp the joints correctly (they looked rough just like the ones you demonstrated).
I have the same tool and i did my whole house with it without a leak. you need to make sure the fitting sits nice in the press and also make sure that the press is fully closed. it still takes a lot of force even being hydraulic. also make sure you use the correct profile for the fitting. Last tip: when using bigger profiles and fittings put a bit petroleum gel on the profile it helps.
I bought a wire terminal crimper that works just about the same off Amazon when I put an inverter in my work van, I suppose the concept is sound but damn that sounds like a pain in the ass trying to pump that thing to crimp the fittings in a wall or at in any other awkward spot
I will pump all day thinking about the money i saved , but i don't do this for a living, so thanks for the video buddy, keep up the awesome work 👏 💪 👍 💯
I can verify because I bought this tool to redo a heating system and that knuckle is very large. I also had quite a few that didn't get good crimps so I had to go back with a soldering torch. If it was on straight pipe and I could do it away from the wall this actually worked pretty good
Back in the day we used to blow a pipe and go to this place called B&E Hardware. If you bought the little crimp connectors, they would offer you to borrow their crimpers.. Didn't have to leave an ID or collaterals.. I miss those times.
Been thinking about getting a manual press tool. Its not a bad price if it could do ALL fittings within it's size range. Between those limitations and the cost of propress vs sweat fittings themselves, I would much rather break out the torch that would work in 90% of use cases. That said, if I ran into a situation that i absolutely could not use open flame on, I guess I would be happy to have A press tool at my disposal even if its got limitations.
It’s a great tool to use in small jobs , not a substitute for the real thing but few fittings it’s a go . I use it if I need to kill a faucet or something quick to continue the demolition or the project if my plumber can’t make it .
I mean if they could make one of those even slightly more decent, I could see a pretty good market just for transitioning from copper to pex in a remodel without solder
For someone starting out this actually would be great to have. After a few jobs you could buy a legit pro press. This could atleast get you there. Might not fit in walls but there are other applications it could be used for outside of walls
i have that exact one only with Th profile jaws for multilayer tube. everything else in its price class is manual, without a swivel head, so manual hydraulic is a big improvement. yes an electric scissor-type one would be nice, but they start at €800ish so for the 20 connections i make a year i can't justify the expense.
When the fittings copper has been pinched and sticks up from the fitting, doesn’t this compromise the wall thickness around the internal rubber o ring?
Dude my grandpa does this even if it doesn't perform like soldering .... It saves you from smelling those fumes my grandpa is 80 yrs old still working and when those fumes hit him he can't breathe .... Safety 1st bro stay safe
I think the reason it’s creasing is because it’s pressing from one direction with an opposing “arbor” or “anvil” while the rigid is pressing from all sides. Regardless, if i don’t have the money for the rigid I’m gonna sweat
No shit it's going to crimp and not leak. It's not about that metric, it's about how much does it cost per crimp (including time) multiplied by the number of times you can use it a day vs other crimp tools.
Before my company demanded…. everybody go to propress… (which we had to pay for are own tools…. $2000 a tool…) I rebelled and bought a manual one for 100 bucks using it a handful of times I never had a single leak…. I eventually bought Milwaukee propress realizing how much easier it was than soldering😂 but the manual one served its purpose for over two years….
There’s an o ring, but it’s the crimping that actually creates the seal, surprisingly. The o ring is just to hold the fitting in place when you press it. There’s a video out there of someone testing it without the o ring and it holds under pressure. Pretty wild
To all the plumbers out there taking bad about crimping tools. Crimping/press fittings have been used in industrial applications for about 10 years now. Finally making its way down to residential plumbing
The practicality is that it's easier to carry than an oxyfuel setup. There's also 0 risk of fire or a need for ventilation. It's for the old guys who don't want to spend that $2,500 to convert to pro press. It's also for the guys who get paid by the hour.
Not the state the obvious, but that is a crimping tool for wire terminals and ferrules. It might work in a pinch for a regular DIY homeowner, but not for commercial use in this case.
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Why did he have to throw your mom in there like that 😂😂😂😂
the first crimp came out wrong lol
solution: rotate before completing crimp
But is he wrong though???
😂😂😂
In my day we just used bamboo sticks and straw
hey boy
Why you still using bamboo and straw!
Hey boy?
Hey boy
Oh, I remember when folks would just cut a tree to 25', hollow it out and use the branches for plumbing. Maybe just an area difference tho 😊
$2500 difference lol. I felt that. Most jobs, to do them right, need a specialty tool or 4.
Or you can just use a $30 propane torch and fittings that cost half the price.
The expensive tool and fittings make sense if you’re doing emergency repairs all the time where the time is more important than the money, or working with lines that are not shut off and need to stop the water fast, but for day to day, I don’t know who would waste the money on copper for a Pex fitting.
@@johngaltline9933 time is more expensive than fittings. No fire watch, less skill needed and easier to use.
This is only true for commercial work
@@Megabear90 pretty sure I covered that in my reply, my dude.
@@johngaltline9933I think his point was that in every job time is money. Not just emergencies
@@johngaltline9933Yes. If one is just a homeowner and having to solder in something is still cheaper than the manual tool. Once one is at home time isn't money. It's going to come out of your leisure time.
Being hydraulic doesn't limit it being cheap does. It could have 3 or 4 articulating sections and a short fat ram, fit into walls with an external hose and pump and still be less than $2500.
And it wouldn't be flopping around while pumping it.
I want someone to make that
I was thinking something like this. Hydraulic with a remote ram/pump setup would be sweet.
Hey boy, back in my day, the only tools we had were cast iron and our bare hands. You just bought a fancy $110 doorstop
He didn't buy it though
Love that you threw a test on it. I’ve done 1, seen a few, and written plenty of letters for them for pipeline.
That's actually pretty sweet, definitely seems like a decent option for someone that's just starting out or can't afford an electric press tool!
Eeyyyy bbbooiiii, your mother looks a little rough, but... 😂 had me rolling
IM DEAD 😂
lol the voices gets me rollin’ each and every time 😂
Thanks, man. After watching your stuff I want the option to press fittings and I'm cheap, soooooo...yeah, appreciate it
He can't resist the "Hey boy.."
I have one of these are the are great.
Mine was $125.
That version is the older version and the newer version takes normal B press tools. It get it, the electric tool is way better. But for someone who requires a B press tool every 6 months I can’t justify the cost and renting the tool is annoying. For $125 the value is insane!!
I had to return mine, bunch of reviews recently show that they started to leak after a few months
THAT SUCKS!!!
It's a homeowner grade tool for the diyers
Exactly! If I was doing a small job and wanted to use crimp fittings, that would be a great option (unless I could rent the big boy from Home Depot!)
@@dperreno boss told me they're like 2k. I think if I only have to redo one connection a manual would be ok for me to purchase
We didn’t have all these fancy tools back then when I was plumbing. we soldered.
That tool does appear to be a piece of crap by the way I watch all your videos they're awesome man thank you for putting them up
Thanks for watching!
@@replumbI just tried it, and do you know how to know when it's done crimping?
I was wondering where you went. RUclips must have unsubscribed me. Glad to see ya back
I also am a plumber really. Enjoy your videos keep up the good work
It’s for those of us who need/want to use a propress for a project/repair but will never really use it again after. I have no need for the M18 propress even tho I have all M18 stuff. I’ll never use it, I don’t do plumbing often.
I do commercial facilities work, this is the kinda thing I’d buy. Propress is useful enough for me to use, but not worth the 5-6 plumber service calls the M18 tool can pay for.
I learned about pex in 2006 when I started remodeling my house. Home Depot and Lowe's didn't even have it back then. I bought a giant crimper from a commercial plumbing store. Still have it, still sucks trying to crimp inside walls.
Good morning! Enjoy your day!
If you buy enough fittings the supplier will give you a propress tool. My company bought 5k in fittings and they gave us a m18 tool and a standard set of refrigeration jaws. They now have a loyal customer that will continue to buy fittings from them.
That thing is $2500?! God damn lol
I imagine this is not a tool meant for professionals like you. Sooner or later, alternatives to the very expensive tools of our respective trades are usually found. Thank you for testing this!
I bought the ibossad one off of Amazon for a personal home remodel. It was able to do 1/2 and 3/4 tees. So far, a year later, none of my fittings are leaking.
I tried one of these and every single joint I made ended up leaking after a few weeks because it doesn't crimp the joints correctly (they looked rough just like the ones you demonstrated).
You know it can still be difficult when he's using a vise to hold the tool steady to get a good position on the tool and lining up all the parts.
I have the same tool and i did my whole house with it without a leak. you need to make sure the fitting sits nice in the press and also make sure that the press is fully closed. it still takes a lot of force even being hydraulic. also make sure you use the correct profile for the fitting. Last tip: when using bigger profiles and fittings put a bit petroleum gel on the profile it helps.
Portability in tight spaces is king in your trade
I just picked up a working m12 propress for $300 I’m so happy about it, gonna only use it on my side jobs because I have one at my full time job.
I’m glad you did this test I was about to waste 200 bucks lol
Hey boi back in my day we didn’t have any of these fancy tools!!
I bought a wire terminal crimper that works just about the same off Amazon when I put an inverter in my work van, I suppose the concept is sound but damn that sounds like a pain in the ass trying to pump that thing to crimp the fittings in a wall or at in any other awkward spot
thanks again!! :)
I will pump all day thinking about the money i saved , but i don't do this for a living, so thanks for the video buddy, keep up the awesome work 👏 💪 👍 💯
I can verify because I bought this tool to redo a heating system and that knuckle is very large. I also had quite a few that didn't get good crimps so I had to go back with a soldering torch. If it was on straight pipe and I could do it away from the wall this actually worked pretty good
For water heater installation it looks cool and worth the money
Back in the day we used to blow a pipe and go to this place called B&E Hardware. If you bought the little crimp connectors, they would offer you to borrow their crimpers.. Didn't have to leave an ID or collaterals..
I miss those times.
Been thinking about getting a manual press tool. Its not a bad price if it could do ALL fittings within it's size range. Between those limitations and the cost of propress vs sweat fittings themselves, I would much rather break out the torch that would work in 90% of use cases. That said, if I ran into a situation that i absolutely could not use open flame on, I guess I would be happy to have A press tool at my disposal even if its got limitations.
It’s a great tool to use in small jobs , not a substitute for the real thing but few fittings it’s a go . I use it if I need to kill a faucet or something quick to continue the demolition or the project if my plumber can’t make it .
Hey boy, back in my day we just crimped the pipe with our hands
HEY BOY 👺 I used to clamp does fits with my teeth and still have half of them!!
😂
It’s a nice option for new construction if you’re a small business, while the wall is still in framing
We have one for high amperage battery cable terminals. Does a very good job
Well worth the price tag
The amount of time saved makes it worth.
much better than when they came out. they used tobe octagon. it looked silly having round fittings and pipe but octagon crimps
Haha hey boy voice went to the yo mama ! Level 😯😯 great video as usual thanks 😮😮
"Hey boy, your mother looks a little rough" had me rolling 😂
As a plumber what do you reccomend for pipe wrench for tight spaces or something else for removing threaded fittings
Please do one for the Vevor pro press tool. It’s $1K Vs rigid/milwaukee/de Walt at $4k.
I have a propress and still choose to solder 80% of the time
If you want a good one thats more capable try the Ibosad HT1950, mine came with dyes for ss sleave (veiga pureflow) pex fittings too.
Back in my day we use to press in the snow ❄️ ⛄️ you could feel the wind in the crack.
I mean if they could make one of those even slightly more decent, I could see a pretty good market just for transitioning from copper to pex in a remodel without solder
This one was interesting!
For someone starting out this actually would be great to have. After a few jobs you could buy a legit pro press. This could atleast get you there. Might not fit in walls but there are other applications it could be used for outside of walls
When you do you could go back n fix the one's that start leaking.....lol
i have that exact one only with Th profile jaws for multilayer tube. everything else in its price class is manual, without a swivel head, so manual hydraulic is a big improvement. yes an electric scissor-type one would be nice, but they start at €800ish so for the 20 connections i make a year i can't justify the expense.
Dam
That's an expensive test
Cheaper doesn't mean it's better. Sometimes it's worth getting the right tool for the job.
Hey boy, I didn't know Peter from @PipeDoctor had his own channel.
Any thoughts on Ferguson FNW fittings as compared to the veiaga fittings?
When the fittings copper has been pinched and sticks up from the fitting, doesn’t this compromise the wall thickness around the internal rubber o ring?
Dude my grandpa does this even if it doesn't perform like soldering .... It saves you from smelling those fumes my grandpa is 80 yrs old still working and when those fumes hit him he can't breathe .... Safety 1st bro stay safe
Sounds like he formed an allergic reaction from it. Otherwise ole boys lungs are shot.
shop work. I'll prep things like 6" risers with caps by the dozen. saves time and everything else in a crawl.
as a electrician this is sometyhing id buy for a diy. i resorted to pex instead though. reminds me of romex lol
What's the most important thing? Practicality or if it works?
so is that the typical PSI for plumbing? why that specific PSI is what I am wondering.
I think the reason it’s creasing is because it’s pressing from one direction with an opposing “arbor” or “anvil” while the rigid is pressing from all sides. Regardless, if i don’t have the money for the rigid I’m gonna sweat
Remember the old pex A pump up manual crimpers that what it reminds me of your not getting under sink comfy with it
Very cool
Is the same Vega press able to be used on black iron gas pipes?
Is it/ the head smaller to fit in better areas
No shit it's going to crimp and not leak. It's not about that metric, it's about how much does it cost per crimp (including time) multiplied by the number of times you can use it a day vs other crimp tools.
it's a homeowner tool compared to a professional plumbing tool.....
Do I see FOUR press tools hot dam
Found one for 158 that will do tees and appears to fit in wall csvities maybe slightly better because of jaw design. ISOBAD is the name.
It might come in handy....in a .........Pinch 😉 🤣 thank you thank you 🤝🤝
Hello have you tried this manual tool on 1 inch copper?
Before my company demanded…. everybody go to propress… (which we had to pay for are own tools…. $2000 a tool…) I rebelled and bought a manual one for 100 bucks using it a handful of times I never had a single leak…. I eventually bought Milwaukee propress realizing how much easier it was than soldering😂 but the manual one served its purpose for over two years….
Have an old RP200, discontinued of course, but does anyone know where i can get a battery for it? No Makita does not work
how do you remove the crimp fittings.
Do pro press fittings have a gasket in the ridge?
There’s an o ring, but it’s the crimping that actually creates the seal, surprisingly. The o ring is just to hold the fitting in place when you press it. There’s a video out there of someone testing it without the o ring and it holds under pressure. Pretty wild
It is pretty bulky for the job. I like the manual pex expansion tool.
Hey Boy, back in the day we crimped black pipe with our left hand while threading the ends with the fingernails of the other hand!
To all the plumbers out there taking bad about crimping tools. Crimping/press fittings have been used in industrial applications for about 10 years now. Finally making its way down to residential plumbing
Actually, a lot longer than 10 years
The practicality is that it's easier to carry than an oxyfuel setup. There's also 0 risk of fire or a need for ventilation. It's for the old guys who don't want to spend that $2,500 to convert to pro press. It's also for the guys who get paid by the hour.
"ahhh, ruff, just the way your mother likes it, trebek!"
The hydronic press is what we use around natural gas to avoid a 7 day shut down and hot work permits
Now my question, which is best for me the home diyer, this 100$ tool or a sharkbyte? Big question eh?
Probably the sharkbite
Hey boy why you wastin all them fittings just for yer little RUclips video
That’s coming out of your pay bud
We’re you testing it on L or M copper ?
He's using type M. M has red writing. L has blue.
Not the state the obvious, but that is a crimping tool for wire terminals and ferrules. It might work in a pinch for a regular DIY homeowner, but not for commercial use in this case.
For the price it’s totally worth it!
Will the 3/4 pass the leak test.
If it ain't Milwahhhkee I ont want it!
It works good but to remove does fitting copper it's a problem
Hey boy, solder is really cheap and works in every instance.
This is true. Just more prep work.
You know what works every time, makes nice joints, won't ever leak, and costs way less than $2500? A torch and solder. Try it some time
Press fittings are the standard in the industry now. Trade in your dinosaur!
Keywrap!🍺🍺🍺🥃🥃
Bawk
My cousin clucky got her neck stuck on one of those before Thanksgiving
Bawk
For 110, you can get the automatic set of two.
"the only saving grace" that's the entire reason it exists.