UPDATE: Do not buy this press tool! It is not manufactured to the proper standards and every single joint made with this tool started leaking after a short period of time. I made a video about the problem here: ruclips.net/video/cP8fJlKejtU/видео.html
Right to it! No time wasting bull sheet intro music, no useless none sense spectacular intro like other utub lug heads wanting to impress wasting my time and theirs. Simple right to it real life! Luv it. THANK YOU!
I have one, used for pex and multilayer pipe. First thing I did when I bought it was to crimp a fitting and cutting it with a grinder to see the cross section.
@@probuilder6828 I’ve been using it for about two years. I don’t use it daily but it has been reliable every time I bust it out. Never had an issue. Yes, I have pressed three-quarter, but not any tees because I typically switch everything to PEX.
has rubber seal inside treated to resist drying splitting on gas or water , my plumber here used this method on my home water heater (gas) , so im buyinig this tool and doing the next time myself save $$$$$$$$$$$$
I bought one to try it, I crimped on one viego 3/4 to 2 separate scrap pieces. I had it set flush, and did the work. I could see the pipes weren't straight and the crimp looked like it didn't take al the way. After that I returned it and ill stick with solder
Bought it 2 years ago...just used it with zero issues....the other one....need some coordination though...one fitting i pressed at slight angle but no leaks(outside faucet stuff)
@DragonBuilds Definitely quality control problems. It's made in China. But I've tried two different ones from IBOSAD and both worked well. It was the HT-1950-N And the HT1950-ZHENGTI, which is what I have now.
@@DragonBuilds The design of the one you're using I think they have cut corners. The hydraulic pushes one roller up into I to the other die and crushes it. I can see how that might cause an issue. Especially after seeing how it it leaves the large protruding pinch marks after being pressed. The newer ones do not do that. Especially the one I have where you have different sized jaws for different pipe OD. It leaves very little pinch marks. I think they have refined the design over the last few years.
I have this tool it works good for the regular copper fittings but when I used it for more heavier duty fittings that are made of brass such as a ball valve it can’t provide enough pressure and they leak. I finally bought a proper propress tool.
Yeah, this crimper worked fine with JW press fittings but when I tried to crimp a thicker Viega fitting it leaked. The Bluefin press tool works well on brass fittings but needs a lot of space to work, so I only use it in situations like adding a ball valve when the water won't stop flowing.
@@chanceayres6718 The Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com is pretty good. Definitely avoid these no-name Amazon ones unless you want to come home to a destroyed house and high water bill.
Looks very clumsy to use and would require three hands to position, hold, and press together. Not to mention the cost of those fittings, only real benefit is connecting pipe that is wet. I'll stick to soldering.
@@DragonBuilds the only thing different with mine and yours is my fittings are black --- i have never had a leak in 3y i ever did a video on it --- thanks for sharing
@@Raysmaintenance The postive reviews all show the tool with black crimping dies. I think the silver ones are made with less precision or poor quality materials.
This would be useful if you were just wanting to convert from copper to pex every time you dealt with copper as a service tech... if it were reliable.... apparently it isn't
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There are different clamps available for this tool. If I'm not mistaken yours is V type. There are also TH, U, S, M. But hard to find separately sadly.
This tool claimed to be compatible with the ProPress system sold in North America, so there is obviously something wrong with it.
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@@DragonBuilds must be a AliExpress thing. Just saw them being sold there. There probably not well calibrated. Also found the different jaws there too. (for cheap obviously)
@@DragonBuilds ProPress? Good to know. I've been searching for different die inserts to fit this tool and Alibaba was the only place I've found so far. Shipping costs are $39.95 alone.
@@paulweston8184 If you really need a press tool I would suggest either getting the Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com or renting an electric one from a local plumbing supply store.
bought mine from Vevor, did about 20 -1/2 inch crimps no problem, did 4 -3/4 no problem wasn't able to crimp the lower part of a 'T' fitting as the body gets in the way, that's when it started to lock up on me as in the head wouldn't unlatch from the body unless I hit it, this continues to this day, Vevor started acting stupid and saying I have a 1/4, 1/2. 5/8 tool and it didn't do 3/4 fittings (I had purchased a bending tool they were talking about) basically they kept going back and forth about me not knowing how to use such a simple tool, gave up on trying to get a refund or exchange (they no longer sell this tool now have manual ones) and stop doing business with them. just more Chinese crap. this tool looks exactly like mine case and all I'm guessing the only difference is the name on the case
in australia these or similar are $100 for 4 hours to a day for hire so great value this buy if you have a few days worth of work , i would buy instead of hire for sure
The crimp is not supposed to seal the fitting. Once the fitting is pushed onto the copper, the "O" ring in the fitting engages and makes the seal. The crimp secures pipe onto fitting.
Press fittings are actually designed so they don't seal until they're pressed. That way, unpressed fittings can be identified before they cause a big problem.
@@plumbrose1yeah, the o-ring is engaged, but it’s not going to stand up to water pressure until the fitting is crimped. Without crimping, it will leak. Even if the fitting stays put.
If you can find the correct size jaw(s) and fittings it will work on air conditioning lines. Unfortunately the jaws are not compatible with the more popular’ pro-press’ tools
It is garbage based on what I am seeing. It squeezed the copper and did not put the hex imprint in to stop twisting. Cheap is cheap and the designer just had to follow some simple tolerance steps to make it 1000 percent better.
@@DragonBuilds You can blame the tool if it makes you feel better I blame the concept. I have seen O ring crimp connectors start leaking months after assembly. I will take a few minutes to solder sweat my plumbing and never have to think about it again. Alloy is your ally towards peace of mind.
@@williardbillmore5713 Yes, absolutely. My partner's summer cottage is plumbed using a combination of PEX and press fittings for both domestic water and heating.
I'd be careful telling people to stay away from this product based on no more than your anecdotal experience. It is essentially the same technology as a 3k$ Milwaukee press; with the big distinguishing [hand pump] hydraulic press being the only BIG difference. I work as a plumber, and it's not uncommon for even the $3k+ pro presses to occasionally not hold tight on a coupling connection. But you to say that ALL your connections were pretty much leaking? - This leads me to believe that you may not have thoroughly understood or even learned proper operation of the tool. Personally, if I were making a review and / or instructional video, I would've shown my viewers (myself being both familiar and pleased with the exact same product) that we would be calibrating our new tool first and foremost, with the calibration kit provided, and then, prior to operation on any job going forward! -calibration checks and/or adjustments take literally 30 seconds FYI. Anyone familiar with plumbing, and really any occupations / vocations focused on the importance of mathematical prescion, knows just how important it is and, furthermore, the ramifications of mere millimeters. Also, to anyone looking for further tips: always ensure that you are coming down on the coupling straight... file and debur just as you would approach a solder connection [as you can slice the inner rubber ring)... and lastly, mind your proximity of any joints that you may have to sweat instead of press, as the heat can easily melt the rubber ring (the most vital component within your press connection). Happy plumbing out there, and for the record, it's easily one of my favorite tools nowadays; especially considering the fraction of a cost it imposed on me in comparison to the electrical ones!
i have a similar tool (albeit a lot more expensive)…but still prefer sweating (solder)copper pipes…i really try to use PEX (type A)…which is outstanding…no longer use copper at all…
I agree sweating is much more superior than any other fitting. The only time the press fitting is the best is when you have a hard time getting water out of a system and that’s when those press fittings really shine.
The biggest beef I have with this tool is it won’t fit in tight spots. For diy use, go sharkbite. For a professional, pro press is the way to go but I’m not seeing a logical way around the 2000 investment.
@@paulweston8184 Dude, it's a procedurally generated name, like so many Chinese suppliers use on Amazon, Aliexpress and other sites. It has to do with the trademark office and how things are processed. Vox did a whole video on the weird names you see on places like Amazon marketplace and why it's absolutely destroyed the trademark and patent system by overloading them with absolute garbage.
some folks will likely not see your update and will go out and buy this tool. You should delete this vid because if someone can't or doesn't read your update your video is creating problems..
Anyone use a non shitty tool? Even the pro plumber I called over a main leak used propress and it's held for 2 years now. I guess Europe has used it for decades too
UPDATE: Do not buy this press tool! It is not manufactured to the proper standards and every single joint made with this tool started leaking after a short period of time. I made a video about the problem here: ruclips.net/video/cP8fJlKejtU/видео.html
Thanks for the video and the update. Have you found a better, more reliable manual pro press tool?
There's the Bluefin tool, but it takes a lot of space to use. You could always rent a real press tool for around $100 a day.
@@DragonBuilds thanks!
Thanks so much for updating us!
Did you deburr the inside and outside of the pipe ?
Right to it!
No time wasting bull sheet intro music, no useless none sense spectacular intro like other utub lug heads wanting to impress wasting my time and theirs.
Simple right to it real life! Luv it. THANK YOU!
Got the same one. Used it a few times with absolutely zero issues.
They changed the design recently
Still with 0 issues?
I have one, used for pex and multilayer pipe. First thing I did when I bought it was to crimp a fitting and cutting it with a grinder to see the cross section.
I have the split in half type. 2 years and countless fittings later its still going strong
Do you have a link to it? What do you mean by "split in half" type?
Soldering is not hard and it is not dangerous and it has proven longevity
I have been using this tool for over a year and have had no issues.
Have you ever pressed 3/4” Viega tee? It would not fit or is just me?
@@probuilder6828 I’ve been using it for about two years. I don’t use it daily but it has been reliable every time I bust it out. Never had an issue. Yes, I have pressed three-quarter, but not any tees because I typically switch everything to PEX.
@@probuilder6828This version is not meant for T fittings. You have to get the version with the propress jaws
Appreciate the video. Unfortunately its not about whether it can resist a twist, which it didn't. The real issue is ANY water leaks.
has rubber seal inside treated to resist drying splitting on gas or water , my plumber here used this method on my home water heater (gas) , so im buyinig this tool and doing the next time myself save $$$$$$$$$$$$
The finished crimp looked like you used the wrong mold. If that is the case, then that may explain why the joins leak.
I bought one to try it, I crimped on one viego 3/4 to 2 separate scrap pieces. I had it set flush, and did the work. I could see the pipes weren't straight and the crimp looked like it didn't take al the way. After that I returned it and ill stick with solder
Bought it 2 years ago...just used it with zero issues....the other one....need some coordination though...one fitting i pressed at slight angle but no leaks(outside faucet stuff)
Hmmm, I think it must be a quality control problem as some people have had good luck with the tool and others have leaks everywhere.
@DragonBuilds Definitely quality control problems. It's made in China. But I've tried two different ones from IBOSAD and both worked well.
It was the HT-1950-N
And the HT1950-ZHENGTI, which is what I have now.
@@fasteddie5388 I agree that it is likely a quality control problem but they also cut corners when it comes to design.
@@DragonBuilds The design of the one you're using I think they have cut corners. The hydraulic pushes one roller up into I to the other die and crushes it. I can see how that might cause an issue. Especially after seeing how it it leaves the large protruding pinch marks after being pressed. The newer ones do not do that. Especially the one I have where you have different sized jaws for different pipe OD. It leaves very little pinch marks. I think they have refined the design over the last few years.
@@fasteddie5388 I have the manual iCrimp/Bluefin tool (rebranded) and it works great, I think their hydraulic version should work well too.
Why not just solder if you are doing a water heater?
Nah I’ll never bring a torch out ever again
Fire liability insurance costs is why.
I have this tool it works good for the regular copper fittings but when I used it for more heavier duty fittings that are made of brass such as a ball valve it can’t provide enough pressure and they leak. I finally bought a proper propress tool.
Yeah, this crimper worked fine with JW press fittings but when I tried to crimp a thicker Viega fitting it leaked. The Bluefin press tool works well on brass fittings but needs a lot of space to work, so I only use it in situations like adding a ball valve when the water won't stop flowing.
What proper propress tool did you buy Warren?
@@chanceayres6718Ridgid and Milwaukee seem to be popular press tool manufacturers
@@DragonBuilds thank you but not spending that kind of money. Going to look at other Manual tools
@@chanceayres6718 The Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com is pretty good. Definitely avoid these no-name Amazon ones unless you want to come home to a destroyed house and high water bill.
Looks very clumsy to use and would require three hands to position, hold, and press together. Not to mention the cost of those fittings, only real benefit is connecting pipe that is wet. I'll stick to soldering.
People hate it cuz they got propress don’t want lose customers 😂
I love the sound it makes.
How long is it going to take me to repipe an entire house?? A year,???
If you're piping an entire house rent a real pro press, this is more for homegamers
Still faster than sanding and sweating a pipe I'd say.
So press joint , back off , turn 90 degrees , or a quarter of a turn , and repress ? Does that sound right ?
No, there is no need to repress. Also, I do not recommend this tool as it has issues with leaks.
I have had one for 3y works good
I read that they recently changed the design, since I saw some good reviews of the tool from a couple years ago and they seemed to be fine back then.
@@DragonBuilds the only thing different with mine and yours is my fittings are black --- i have never had a leak in 3y i ever did a video on it --- thanks for sharing
@@Raysmaintenance The postive reviews all show the tool with black crimping dies. I think the silver ones are made with less precision or poor quality materials.
This would be useful if you were just wanting to convert from copper to pex every time you dealt with copper as a service tech... if it were reliable.... apparently it isn't
There are different clamps available for this tool. If I'm not mistaken yours is V type. There are also TH, U, S, M. But hard to find separately sadly.
This tool claimed to be compatible with the ProPress system sold in North America, so there is obviously something wrong with it.
@@DragonBuilds must be a AliExpress thing. Just saw them being sold there. There probably not well calibrated.
Also found the different jaws there too. (for cheap obviously)
@@DragonBuilds ProPress? Good to know. I've been searching for different die inserts to fit this tool and Alibaba was the only place I've found so far. Shipping costs are $39.95 alone.
@@paulweston8184 If you really need a press tool I would suggest either getting the Bluefin one from supplyhouse.com or renting an electric one from a local plumbing supply store.
Can you find different size jaws?
the tool comes with 1/2, 3/4, and 1" jaws
bom dia amigo! quanto custa a máquina?
bought mine from Vevor, did about 20 -1/2 inch crimps no problem, did 4 -3/4 no problem wasn't able to crimp the lower part of a 'T' fitting as the body gets in the way, that's when it started to lock up on me as in the head wouldn't unlatch from the body unless I hit it, this continues to this day, Vevor started acting stupid and saying I have a 1/4, 1/2. 5/8 tool and it didn't do 3/4 fittings (I had purchased a bending tool they were talking about) basically they kept going back and forth about me not knowing how to use such a simple tool, gave up on trying to get a refund or exchange (they no longer sell this tool now have manual ones) and stop doing business with them. just more Chinese crap. this tool looks exactly like mine case and all I'm guessing the only difference is the name on the case
in australia these or similar are $100 for 4 hours to a day for hire so great value this buy if you have a few days worth of work , i would buy instead of hire for sure
I just got quoted $450 for a plumber to do this after I did all the blocking work and everything!
The crimp is not supposed to seal the fitting. Once the fitting is pushed onto the copper, the "O" ring in the fitting engages and makes the seal. The crimp secures pipe onto fitting.
Press fittings are actually designed so they don't seal until they're pressed. That way, unpressed fittings can be identified before they cause a big problem.
@@DragonBuilds The O ring is engaged once the fitting is pushed on the pipe...
@@plumbrose1 Viega fittings have a small groove that is designed to leak until the fitting is pressed. Not sure how other press fittings work.
@@plumbrose1yeah, the o-ring is engaged, but it’s not going to stand up to water pressure until the fitting is crimped. Without crimping, it will leak. Even if the fitting stays put.
Does it work on air conditioning?
No, just for plumbing
If you can find the correct size jaw(s) and fittings it will work on air conditioning lines. Unfortunately the jaws are not compatible with the more popular’ pro-press’ tools
It is garbage based on what I am seeing. It squeezed the copper and did not put the hex imprint in to stop twisting. Cheap is cheap and the designer just had to follow some simple tolerance steps to make it 1000 percent better.
Bullshit, it works just fine. The seal is the O ring.
Great information
There is a name for people who use propress fittings.
They are called "flooded".
Press fittings have been reliably used in Europe for decades, but this manual press tool is poorly made and caused several leaks.
@@DragonBuilds You can blame the tool if it makes you feel better I blame the concept.
I have seen O ring crimp connectors start leaking months after assembly.
I will take a few minutes to solder sweat my plumbing and never have to think about it again.
Alloy is your ally towards peace of mind.
@@williardbillmore5713 I prefer soldering as well, but ProPress definitely has its places.
@@DragonBuilds Would you use them inside the walls of YOUR home?
@@williardbillmore5713 Yes, absolutely. My partner's summer cottage is plumbed using a combination of PEX and press fittings for both domestic water and heating.
Takes a month just to press one side of the fitting
Cool video
I'd be careful telling people to stay away from this product based on no more than your anecdotal experience.
It is essentially the same technology as a 3k$ Milwaukee press; with the big distinguishing [hand pump] hydraulic press being the only BIG difference.
I work as a plumber, and it's not uncommon for even the $3k+ pro presses to occasionally not hold tight on a coupling connection.
But you to say that ALL your connections were pretty much leaking? - This leads me to believe that you may not have thoroughly understood or even learned proper operation of the tool.
Personally, if I were making a review and / or instructional video, I would've shown my viewers (myself being both familiar and pleased with the exact same product) that we would be calibrating our new tool first and foremost, with the calibration kit provided, and then, prior to operation on any job going forward! -calibration checks and/or adjustments take literally 30 seconds FYI.
Anyone familiar with plumbing, and really any occupations / vocations focused on the importance of mathematical prescion, knows just how important it is and, furthermore, the ramifications of mere millimeters.
Also, to anyone looking for further tips:
always ensure that you are coming down on the coupling straight... file and debur just as you would approach a solder connection [as you can slice the inner rubber ring)... and lastly, mind your proximity of any joints that you may have to sweat instead of press, as the heat can easily melt the rubber ring (the most vital component within your press connection).
Happy plumbing out there, and for the record, it's easily one of my favorite tools nowadays; especially considering the fraction of a cost it imposed on me in comparison to the electrical ones!
While the technology is identical, I found that this no-name tool’s jaws are imprecise and couldn’t crimp the fitting completely.
i have a similar tool (albeit a lot more expensive)…but still prefer sweating (solder)copper pipes…i really try to use PEX (type A)…which is outstanding…no longer use copper at all…
I agree sweating is much more superior than any other fitting. The only time the press fitting is the best is when you have a hard time getting water out of a system and that’s when those press fittings really shine.
I like using PEX-A as well, but some applications require copper as PEX can't be used outdoors (sunlight degrades it).
No way! No quality control… once it leaks and floods the basement you are in trouble
The biggest beef I have with this tool is it won’t fit in tight spots.
For diy use, go sharkbite.
For a professional, pro press is the way to go but I’m not seeing a logical way around the 2000 investment.
Honestly, I would say that you are better off soldering.
There are better versions of this tool that work well and can fit in tight spots and is perfect for a DIYer.
You can always trust Amazon when it comes to coming up with the weirdest names for their brands.
Ibosad is a Chinese brand like Lenovo nitwit.
@@paulweston8184
Yeah, but not as big as Lenovo and can only be sold on Amazon.
@@paulweston8184 Dude, it's a procedurally generated name, like so many Chinese suppliers use on Amazon, Aliexpress and other sites. It has to do with the trademark office and how things are processed. Vox did a whole video on the weird names you see on places like Amazon marketplace and why it's absolutely destroyed the trademark and patent system by overloading them with absolute garbage.
Sweat your pipes home built 1960 copper sweat pipes…..no leaks to date…they have no data yet on the longevity on this meothod
Pretty sure I can solder faster than this tool.
My next purchase defenetely
Throu it in the bin use solder
At least solder won’t leak!
some folks will likely not see your update and will go out and buy this tool. You should delete this vid because if someone can't or doesn't read your update your video is creating problems..
They make an updated press
I just bought this tool 😔
At least you can hopefully still return it
Just bought one on Amazon it's $150. Now
I wouldn't recommend using it, it doesn't crimp the joints fully which lead to many leaks developing after a few weeks.
i rather solder anytime unless you have valve that's not holding.
i dont really want to get bread when on a job xD
I agree, especially after the press tool made a bunch of leaky joints.
that joint will leak like a siv
No way that's going to leak....lol
It ended up leaking and I had to redo everything. I'll just solder from now on.
@@DragonBuilds I prefer to solder, but like anything I guess propress has it's place
Anyone use a non shitty tool? Even the pro plumber I called over a main leak used propress and it's held for 2 years now. I guess Europe has used it for decades too
Dude don’t release the hydraulics so much and you want have to pump up the next one so much
Thank you great video I got one of these for Christmas From my girlfriend
Thanks.. there wasn’t a useful manual…
Check that one off my list
THEY SPELLED IBOSAD WRONG. ISOBAD IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
I agree!
sou do Brasil
não está disponível no Brasil. Eu recomendo simplesmente soldar o cobre, pois é mais barato e confiável.
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