Artistry - Ballet & Gymnastics - 1988 Compulsory Routine. SO relatable!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Today we are talking about how gymnastics and ballet were actually so similar in the 80's.
A particular post of DANIELA SILIVAS went viral on instagram with her 1988 routine. It was very interesting to see how her movements were so balletic. Of course all of us ballet dancers on instagram liked it and resonated with it.
Gymnastics has evolved to more of a power sport which is incredible. Why the human bodies are achieving definitely needs more of an athletic physic and Simone Biles is the greatest of this day and age.
What was so interesting was how a lot of gymnasts shared the same concern as we do in ballet. Even figure skaters and ballroom dancers joined the chat! Artistry is being lost.
Now of course, I focus on the ballet side of things but I found it fascinating how there was a common denominator between the worlds even within a sport like gymnastics.
I do beleive the sport had to evolve to allow for these more complex movements and Simone is a stellar example but as a ballet dancer myself I would adore it if some of that flair of dance came back for all their corner action before the now insane tricks! :-)
For ballet dancers out there - don't lose that!
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Hello everyone! my names Isabella.
I am the first British graduate of the Vaganova ballet academy in Saint Petersburg Russia. I was a soloist working with the Mikhailovsky Ballet and Eifman ballet.
Now I live in London as a full time coach
Here, on my channel I am sharing my passion with you all about the Vaganova technique amongst many other things related to ballet we all love.
It's a hard industry so I am here to help with my insights and knowledge to make it a little easier for you all, as well as to hopefully entertain you with my content.
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I completely agree with your perspective on this. I watch much less of the Olympics now because I miss the artistry. Yes, the athleticism is awesome but I so appreciate the technique and artistic expression of earlier decades.
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Would love to see a video similar to this where you tell us your thoughts on ballet and rhythmic gymnastics. Loved this video ❤
Yes please give us your thoughts about rhythmic gymnastics, the most underrated sport IMO. Love your knowledge and insights!
Yes, please!! Osipova and many others started out in rhythmic gymnastics, Zakharova's daughter is doing a r.gymnasts... there is a close conversation between RG and ballet, so I would love to hear your thoughts on that too!
As someone mentioned here below, Olga Korbut 1972 did amazing things and was also an artist.
tbh i dont enjoy watching gymnastics any more, 30 yrs ago, when it had a strong aesthetic & incredible skills it was much more attractive.
💯 agree
So I’m a huge gym nerd so have decent perspective on this. Artistic gymnastics was basically developed by the Soviets, and they were beyond dominant 1980s-1990s, and ballet was a huge huge huge aspect of their training. If you look at pretty much any Soviet routine from 1980-1992, it’s ballet with tumbles. Beautiful lines, beautiful turns. And as the athletic aspect started to dominate that artistry was mostly lost. However, there still is huge debate and conversation regarding artistry in gum and there are still gymnasts who are beautiful to watch and are mesmerizing. Unfortunately, most of them don’t make it to the all-around in the Olympics because the artistic ones are not the ones (usually) with the insane skills. It is also more evident on beam nowadays just because of the insane floor requirements that leaves little time for artistry. And every 4 years, the gymnastics code changes and it’s constantly trying to push gymnastics back into this artistic era, but I guess it isn’t working. But there are still gems out there that just are gorgeous. But aside from that check out the 1980s oloumoc games if you wanna see beautiful balletic gym, Olga Mostepanova is an angel… and most Soviets from that era.
Yes, the Russians trained their gymnasts in classical ballet. Not sure what gymnasts do these days but 40 years ago I was training young competitive gymnasts in ballet and helping coach their floor routines per their dance elements. The clips you showed are gorgeous! "Artistry" is subjective, of course, but we all know when we see it because we get a lump in our throat and joy in our hearts! ❤❤❤
@@ioanagrancea6091 OK, USSR
They also trained their ice skaters in ballet, I beleive, but that's what I loved watching--the artistic beauty.
@@ioanagrancea6091USSR which was led by Russia. Everybody knows that Soviet gymnast and ballerinas were the best. It is the Soviet system that focused on artistry, body lines, creativity, expression, the whole body presentation. Gymnasts were expected to take acting classes as well as ballet classes
@@MelindaL51this is exactly why I love Russian ballet, gymnastics, and ice skating. They focus on the whole presentation, body lines are imperative, and ballet and even acting classes are mandatory
Thank you Isabella. You have described exactly how I feel. I trained as a gymnast, along with all my other dance forms 50 years ago. One can only hope others will see & apply the wise knowledge you have shared.
I also shared this on Twitter to my followers, only 7 thousand, but lots of artists have seen this and will hopefully follow you.
💯 agree. I miss the artistry in gymnastics, the beautiful lines, the balletic influence, it's just a shame what's happening
The way the gymnastics scoring works now also works against aspiring for perfection. It encourages doing harder skills and risking a few flaws.
The second Asylmuratova came on the screen I got goosebumps. Isabella, you should check out Olga Korbut from the 1972 (I think) Olympics. Her floor routine was very balletic, very artistic.
Why is this video so underrated?? Love you Isabella! You look so pretty in this video❤
Ballet Reign touched on this subject in their last video too ❤
I have another video I did 2 weeks ago about is ballet a sport you might like x
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Love Ballet Reign ❤
There are occasionally some gymnasts that still focus on the classical movements, like Victoria Komova. She was always lovely. Ballet is cross training for most gymnasts, both men and women. I've done gymnastics for almost 15 years but the last 8 years or so I've focussed on dance. They are so completely different and yet there is a lot of skills that cross over
I absolutely love your perspective and take on this, fantastic advice about artistry and its importance when performing. I've been asked many times if I have ballet training when people see my form in Tai Chi, so flattering but I am yet to begin my ballet journey.. I'm 31 but havent given up hope! Isabella please come to Sydney for beginner adult classes 🇦🇺 I saw your post about a couple other cities 🙏 You're so fabulous Isabella, thank you for all you do ❤️ xx
シリバシュは可憐で素敵でしたよね❤。
フリーの新月面のミスと跳馬の足の開きのミスが残念でした。
I dabbled in Gymnastics, and Competed in Figure Skating along with Ballet. For Gymnastics in the US and Figure Skating they always said focus on the connecting steps and artistry. You can't be a complete skater they would say, just having great technique. Now days, the top Olympic athletes are the ones that can do the most difficult jumps with the greatest execution for skating.While the Component scores for Figure Skating are still important. Someone can be a way beautiful, strong artistic skater, and the person with the most difficult jumps will Win. I have never believed this is the way things should be scored. I do believe the artistry has been lost with both sports.😪❤
Great topic. I think sport will naturally veer away from artistry b/c of the incentives to compete and fundamentally test our physical capabilities. And yes I agree, ballet/dance can become full of 'tricks' without the story/artistry - but again that maybe a type of style expanding the breadth of ballet. My question is why isn't there a venue for ballet. Music you have grammys, movies you have oscars, musicals you have the tony's, sports you have the olympics. But dance you have
This was the compulsory floor exercise that Daniela performed. Every four years after the Olympic, there was a new compulsory routine with new music and choreo. Unfortunately, they changed this, 1996 Olympics had the last compulsory exercises.
Breakdance in the Olympics was amazing! Could you make a video about that? They have to improvise to the music and there are no compulsory steps or tricks. Personal style is a must.
Oh cool! Ok I will ❤
I think gymnastics and ballet require equal but different athletic prowess; the difference is that gymnastics has become more acrobatic and less artistic. Ballet has moved that way, but to a much lesser degree.
BTW, ballet channels on YT have proliferated like mushrooms in your wake.
You need to watch Lilia Podkopaeva.
I agree with you so much with you Isabella. I remember something i read long time ago, it was like "technique should serve to enhance artistry not to mechanize the artist."
If you wanna see/react to other gorgeous compulsories rutines from de "old days" i recomend
Lilia Podkopayeva 1996 compulsory floor
Henrietta Onodi 1992 compulsory floor
Natalia Shaposhnikova 1980 compulsory floor
Silvia Hindorff 1980 compulsory floor
The great Nadia Comaneci 1976 compulsory floor. this is the best version i could find m.ruclips.net/video/4vboBW52j5M/видео.html
1.) I love the edit in the beginning it’s epic!
2.) Daniela Silivas is absolutely gorgeous gymnast
3.) I had no idea there was even an artistic side to gymnastics but now that the conversation has been up ticking since the Olympics, it is concerning to me that Ballet is moving in this direction. Mainly because it is concerning about how will dancers who are more known for their artistry be appreciated? It can’t just all be about crazy cool moves and tricks, and while of course all of us know technique is important, I am concerned about how dancers who are more pure in the art form may be under appreciated just because they can’t do 75 leg hold turns and do aerials for Jesus and land on pointe 😂. Showmanship definitely has its place but without all of that, how do you actually touch people and add flare and pizzazz to even the simplest of steps? I hope the bar of technique continues to move higher, but not at the expense of artistry, because at the end of the day, dance is about expression and ultimately, technical freedom is merely a vehicle to more uninhibited expression, in my humble opinion.
Hi Isabella dear,my name us Lydia and I would like to learn ballet online with you,what does it is take ??
Latin Ballroom is having the same debate. It has become all speed and athleticism and has lost its "latin" look. Its so far from feeling artistic. Shocking and lots of tricks but not evocative ... I think its a general trend in the world somehow.