Battle of Delium, 424 BC ⚔️ Athens takes on Sparta ⚔️ Peloponnesian War
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🚩On the surface it is a minor battle in the Peloponnesian war, but in fact it was quite significant. It, arguably, turned the tide of the war and marked the first time that a written record was made of a deliberate use of a cavalry reserve in the heat of the battle.
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📢 Narrated by David McCallion
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📝 Sources:
History of the Peloponnesian War - by Thucydides, translation by Rex Warner, edited by M.I.Finley (1972)
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Puzzling about the Battle of Delium: Part 1 - by Bill Armintrout (aka Editor in Chief Bill) (2021)
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The Battle For Delium In 424 BCE: Hillside Charges And Giant Flamethrowers - by C. Keith Hansley (2021)
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The Peloponnesian War - by Donald Kagan (2004)
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The Peloponnesian War: Athens and Sparta in Savage Conflict 431-404 BC - by Donald Kagan (2005)
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🚩I've wanted to cover Battle of Delium for some time, and I finally got the time to do it. On the surface it is a minor battle in the Peloponnesian war, but in fact it was quite significant. It, arguably, turned the tide of the war and marked the first time that a written record was made of a deliberate use of a cavalry reserve in the heat of the battle.
Nice video and very informative and very entertaining and very satisfaction more videos.
Hey I have a big request..can you do a series on khalid bin Waleed like you are doing on Hannibal ?
If i had enough Money i will definitely take a subscription !!! A great video as always
@@اسماعيلضياء-ظ1ب well here come the islamophobes !🤣😔
I wouldn't mind seeing more content form this channel regardless of what war it is. But yeah know some more on the Persian invasions of Greece would be quite interesting.
*No Reinforcements
*No Intelligence
*Attacking uphill
Sun Tzu says: Hippocrates, you just struck out!
I couldn't believe what I saw. The enemy is voluntarily abandoning the high ground and instead of exploiting this blunder Hippocrates charges in, making it an uphill battle again.
@@Thraim. Didn't even use his cavalry, which played no part in the battle, to exploit the gap on the left flank. Pathetic.
@@brainflash1 in His defence, he was already dead by then
Tbf the battle line of the Athenians felt to me like they were running on auto-pilot the whole time, so it might even be possible that Hippocrates was dead even before the charge, and the infantries were just looking for vengeance for their fallen commander.
@@Thraim. petition to change his name to Ironickes
Masterpiece, but I consider it only a warm-up for the Hannibal series. When next part will appear?
Hannibal will come in...
@@HistoryMarche the hannibal series will continue, right..?
@@natalialivshits9439 Yes
Such a relief
We need more Hannibal!!
Excellent video. Please do more Peloponnesian War videos.
Amo tanto este canal. Comencé viendo Bazzbattle pero ustedes siempre procuran tener subtítulos en español, además que siempre crean vídeos con campañas y batallas que siempre hemos querido ver ya que solo tenemos los libros de historia para ello. Son un gran canal y espero algún día poder patrocinarlos.
No hay canales así en español cierto ?
Yes! Thank you. Please cover more battles from this era.
I'm doing my A-levels at the moment and this helped me with the Peloponnesian war a lot and was really good. Love your videos keep up the good work.
Thank you
Ayoo lets go bro another vids about the Greeks
Too nice historic video with clear explaining of events and severe struggle between Athens sparta and presence of Persian influence at that time
These alot of videos for somebody that still keeps us waiting for the Battle of Zama.
Today is the perfect day: it's friday and a new HistoryMarche video came out!
Simply excellent. You guys do it best.
wow awesome really nice! I'd really like a pelopponese war series, some day :D
Great video as always. Just a general question: Whats your favorite time period in history?
Ancient and Medieval period
Great work everyone here who put this together .
'Witness me!' lol
When in doubt attack!
Plan was good. Maybe too good, lol.
@@HistoryMarche In the immortal words of Cronk " Ahh yeah It's all coming together. Can you feel the power? Oh yes - I can feel it!"
4:17 the stock image on top, WTF :D
Wooden plank reference. Sparta seized Athens' timber. Get it?
@@HistoryMarche jeezus... I like it :D
nice video, the end of the battle is very nice. The Athenians think they win the battle and then the winged hussars... I mean the theben cav arrived.
Here's a cool feature another channel used.
In your battle overview, only show your own forces, to simulate the 'fog of war'. The enemy doesn't suddenly pop up on a radar.
Example: 1:16:35
ruclips.net/video/Ji7MZYB4dho/видео.html
The advantage:
• Tension.
• Immersion.
• The narrative technique synergies with ancient battle descriptions.
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I absolutely love this war
Was a big war between the southern cities Athens,Thebes,Spartans and the allies of these three cities.After the wars, Macedonians came under and were defeating all the three cities.Later,Italians came to the Greece,they told to the cities they will give them the freedom from Macedonians,the three cities and their allies helped Italians against Macedonians and later Romans took the control of Macedonia and all the cities that were believing that Italians would had gave them their freedom.Later,on 1400,Turks came on Greece and defeated the Italians and took the control of all Greece.
14:32 a cavalry charging head-on against a much larger hoplite army??? The Boeotians are lucky this is not Total War, then they'd be all dead...
New art, i like that
Make Video on India king Rana Kumbha plzz.
Next video can you please do the daco-roman wars?
aaaaaah been waiting for this, AC Odyssey Remastered :))))
I'm playing assassin's creed odyssey so this is extra interesting.
Human Psychology in battles is incredile from proud Thespians to scared Athenians is all Fascinating
8:27
No Traitors!
*Bonk*
That same Lysander paved the way for the Demise of Sparta in next century by the Thebens
14:19 Witness me ,Senpai!
Mediocre!
Day 1 asking you do make a Video about the battle of worringen.
Can you do a video on the Boeotian war and during the war the boeotian league defeated the Spartans at the battle of leuctra in 371 BC but then on July 4th 362 BC the boeotian league and the city of Thebes led by the general Epaminondas who is killed are defeated by an alliance composed of Sparta and their enemy Athens under the leadership of king Agesilaus the second of Sparta at the battle of Mantinea and the ultimate result of the battle of Mantinea was to pave the way for the Macedonians as the leading force who subjugated the rest of Greece by exploiting the weaknesses of Thebes and Sparta and the battle of Mantinea also paved the way for the Macedonian expansion under the reign of the father of Alexander the Great king Philip the second of Macedon.
Nice to see some Ancient Greece stuff on this channel, normally it's all Romans and/or Alexander the Great.
What's the music at the end?
Génial
Reminding me of the events in the game assassins creed odyseey
Oh my Zeus!
Battle won unsuccessfully
11:40 lol
Thespians and Thebans are pretty underrated in terms of how we perceive that era and history of Greece. I'm sure some of the other city states had great warriors too that fought in the hoplite style or even another style on the behalf of other cities, but their actions echo into time to be forgotten. Even Jesus Christ will be forgotten one day. That is just how the Universe works. How life works.
In general Boeotian oplite is a little bit beter than the Athenean.
@user-es3jd7nd7z did they all have bronze on and greaves on both arms and legs? I would say the linothorax is good armor too though if made properly.
Also what I mean is I'm sure some cities were more wealthy than others and some men more wealthy than other men so I assume that would play a role in where you fit into the battle too. I don't know I am going to look it up and see what I find right now
After this, thebans make them fall
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Socrates was in the Athenian Army at Delium and remarked himself during the retreat, when he abstained from running. Instead, he stood back to back with Laches ( an Athenian general) and retreated in a composed manner, making the Spartans hunt down those fleeing in disarray while avoiding to engage them.
Alcibiades recollected the moment as follows:
"Furthermore, men, it was worthwhile to behold Socrates when the army retreated in flight from Delium; for I happened to be there on horseback and he was a hoplite. The soldiers were then in rout, and while he and Laches were retreating together, I came upon them by chance. And as soon as I saw them, I at once urged the two of them to take heart, and I said I would not leave them behind. I had an even finer opportunity to observe Socrates there than I had had at Potidaea, for I was less in fear because I was on horseback. First of all, how much more sensible he was than Laches; and secondly, it was my opinion, Aristophanes (and this point is yours); that walking there just as he does here in Athens, 'stalking like a pelican, his eyes darting from side to side,' quietly on the lookout for friends and foes, he made it plain to everyone even at a great distance that if one touches this real man, he will defend himself vigorously. Consequently, he went away safely, both he and his comrade; for when you behave in war as he did, then they just about do not even touch you; instead they pursue those who turn in headlong flight"
Alcibiades was writing to aristophanes?
@@austinlittke5580 I think it's discussion related by Plato.
@@austinlittke5580 I think it is a jab at Aristophanes for making Socrates appear as a cowardly con artist in his play, 'Clouds'.
Socrates was quite the guy. One way & another!
Well Athens lost that one. I like the bubble captions
These vids are always really good.
Thanks for making em.
"Who Dat" last thing you ever want to hear on a battlefield
"Who Dere" last thing you ever want to hear on the march.
Its probably NOT your allies arriving...
😂😂😂
Those Thespians again. Talk about underrated.
I, too, like lesbians.
They certainly go under the radar that's for sure
people are really fr sleeping on the Thespians.
They fought to the death in at least three different battles. Tough bastards!
Thespians, that's illegal in 7 states!
Thebes: Defeat Athens at is peek, and change the course of the war.
Sparta: what could be wrong if we go against Thebes in a few decades?
Well, Sparta army was still legendary in reputation, so they wouldn't know better
Tbf it was only thanks to that ONE guy super talented which brought Thebes to its best, but cinsidering that after he died Thebes started to get rekt over and over
It's difficult to overestimate just how devastating the capture of 120 Spartiates alive at Sphacteria was to Sparta. Sparta's full citizens were by far her most valuable and costly resource, and therefore the ultimate bargaining chip for Athens. Sparta essentially tried to stop everything and go on hands and knees to get them back.
Can you please if its possible finish your punic wars series. What happeneed between Cannae and Zama. Zama itself and 3rd punic siege. Thank you for awesome content keep it up!
I can't wait for the punic wars series too! I agree, great content!
The last time i was this early, Sparta already defeated the Persians in the battle of Plataea
I didn't get it?
"The Athenians were concerned about the..."
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Excellent episode as always - I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I hope you do more videos on the Peloponnesian War - please do Syracuse 415-412, Arginusae 406, Pylos and Sphakteria 425 and Mantineia 418!
As a university lecturer on ancient history and a keen scholar of the Peloponnesian War, I do however have some nitpicking to do. Please take this as constructive criticism:
- The map at 1:18: The location of classical Pylos is actually to the north of the island of Sphakteria, not to the south - the southern spot on your map is the location of the modern village of Pylos.
- Regarding the battle at Pylos and Sphakteria: the Athenians did not capture 420 Spartan warriors; 420 was the number sent to the island, but by the time they surrendered, less than 300 of those remained, the rest having been slain in battle. You got the number of captured Spartiates right, though.
- 4:30: The attack on Plataea was not led by Pagondas, and it took place right at the beginning of the war, not in 425. The siege of Plataea was led by the Spartan king Archidamos (at least initially), and ended with the surrender of the city in 429. Pagondas only really emerges as a character just before the battle of Delion.
- 4:58: You mention that the plague killed Pericles. That is correct, however you never mentioned him previously in the video, nor do you mention him afterward. The casual viewer likely has no idea who Pericles is; in future, make sure you introduce all the characters properly. Also, we have several original busts of Pericles, which you could have used for the little pic on the flag.
- 6:16: Delium [Gr. Delion] is not a border city; it is a sanctuary of Apollo, and should be referred to as "the Delium". It may have had a small sattelite settlement, but certainly not a city.
- 8:52: Typo in the speech bubble: Sykion (correct: Sikyon).
- 15:23: You missed a great opportunity to mention the Boiotian use of flamethrowers to burn the Athenians out of the Delium - which is a pity! (Though you did at least mention it in the footnotes)
- 16:04: Lysander did not lead the Spartan army - he was elected nauarch (admiral) and commanded the fleet. The land army at the end was under the command of the two Spartan kings.
Very good feedback, thank you!
@@HistoryMarche Thanks for the kind words!
And please know that I thoroughly enjoy almost all your videos! My personal favourites so far are Yarmouk, Ain Jalut, Hemmingstedt and Hattin. Those were simply amazing!
These are not jus nitpicks, but legitimate criticisms, this is history not star wars.
Each time Athens fights Sparta it reminds me of Pokémon rivals
Red Socks vs Yankees
England vs France
Doctor Who vs Daleks
Peter Griffin vs Yellow Chicken
Wow, ancient greeks, i always loved this subject. Thanks HistoryMarche.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautifully imagined, gripping graphics with clear exposition of a complex chronology of battle . Absolutely fascinating. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Coz of this channel, 'history is my favourite subject'.
God I loved Gerard Butler's acting in the 300 movie, this freaking awsome "video movie" reminds me of it xD
Yeah, the whole movie was super hype!
@YouveBeenGreeked X) you didn't see NOTHIN.
@@HistoryMarche make a series on ww2 alone from the invasion of Poland to the fall of berlin.It'll be amazing
@@schutzstaffel8396 Well the Great War team already made 16 days in Berlin, if you dont mind subscriptions (or just using a free trial)
@@HistoryMarche As long as you don't want it to be historically accurate, it's great. And it wasn't meant to be
Thanks for the video, great work
Glad you liked it!
YES HAVENT BEEN THIS EARLY IN AGES AND ITS A BATTLE I DONT KNOW ABOUT GET IN!!!
The Last Time I was this early, Hannibal had both eyes.
I will watch this when I get snacks tomorrow, HistoryMarche videos + snacks is better than watching a movie with popcorn
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04:04: Hmm, I'm fairly sure that Thessalonike hadn't been founded yet, not for at least 70 more years. Therma or Thermae was the name of the town back in 424 BC (not to be confused with Therme, the town that appears to the south), hence Thermaic Gulf.
Wasn’t Aigiai still the capital of Macedon at the time too? I thought Philip II changed it to Pella,
What about Skopje?
@@dragooll2023 LMAO Monkeydonian
I have to say, History Marche is my favorite. Of all the great documentary channels coming up, I really love how well and detailed your animations are regarding the battles, just impressive stuff. Please keep doing what you do, and continue to unwrap the beautiful tapestry of antiquity for us all! For we are all truly in your debt.
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Love classical Greece, thanks guys
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Delian League. Basically NATO when triremes were around.
In theory, yes 😅.
In reality, it was more like Philip's Macedonian Empire.
@@tylerdurden3722 He means Delian 'League' was the Athenian Empire, just like 'NATO' is the American Empire.
Imagine if the Greeks were united from the start instead of fighting each other, what a formidable force this would've been against Rome.
They were united under Alexander and conquered all the way to India. Then they split up in warring kingdoms again sadly. If only Alexander could have lived and turned West and conquered Italy and then Europe and left proper heirs and structure for the Empire.
Or someone else like they could’ve gone for anyone they were so small
@@crunche1 there was a lot of Greeks in the ancient world. Including all the colonies there was probably 10 million "Greeks", at a time when Persia and China had 50 million people each and world population was like 150 tops.
There's many reasons Greeks discovered almost everything and had high culture developed. But population isn't usually considered as much as it should.
The more people you got, the more smart people you got too.
actually it would been very dificult for the greeks to conquer italy or even europe, the main reason is that rome's legions had already broke down the mistery of figthing a phalanx or hoplites formations wich gives you a resolute battle line but they are not very mobile, rome's legions were very very flexible, so they would easily flank the hoplites formations wich in turn gave them a huge advantage, and there were nothing the greeks could do, besides completely changing battle tactics and constantly evolving those tatics and adding auxiliary troops to their regular armies (by that i meant that the roman auxiliary troops holster was huge in comparision to the greek's), that's why the greeks in general were subjugated by rome's military and economic power. it's very intresting the ideia of a united greece under one banner, and to think about how it would have been different, but even than, i think they would not conquer rome. The thing is that rome was indisputably the greatest power of their time, and it was a long time hahahahahhaha, that happened because of their abillity to constantly evolve their military power, tactics and engineering capacity, they were losing the war against hannibal ( and they would lose if the Cartagenian senate had sent the troops hannibal requested) , but scipio turned the tide but adapting to the cartagenian use of elephants, wich was a big problem for the roman legionarie that had to deal with a beast he has never saw before, by doing that he put rome on the ofensive again and the rest is history!
@@arielsantana9258 sorry, but your wall of text is full of errors about tactics and strategy.
Romans mostly faced the long spear type phalanx armies after it had gone through some changes. Even so they still lost to Pyrrhus several times.The later armies had elongated the spear too much and didn't train well, had no good horse and hypaspists to complement the long-spear phalanx like in the past.
Even the Hoplite armies (short-spear and big shield) could beat the Romans in earlier times.
But the main thing is that Rome was a very small power in Alexander's time. It would easily be conquered by Alexander or one of his generals. Italy was populated by Greeks and Samnites mostly so these would easily join or be subjugated first.
Romans had Greek blood too, one of the major tribes was Arcadian Greeks, the Pallantium was their city. The Palatine Hill was what it became.
So they probably would join the Greek Empire willingly and help subjugate the Samnites and then also the Gauls and Carthage.
Press "F" for the Thespians 💪🏽
They died for nothing. Martyrdom is stupid and pointless.
@@prs_81 You still have to applaud the cheer bad-assery of seeing everyone besides you run away and just say "Fuck that we're not pussies"
They had no way of knowing that there was a cavalry attack, they had no way of knowing their stand basically decides the whole battle, they just stood because "My mama aint raised no quitter"
Forget the reasons and points of any battle or war, it's just bad-ass
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Shouldn't the title be "Athens takes on Boeotia" since the Battle of Delium was between Athens and the Boeotian League?
I love this Chanel. This is how i learn history's greates battles and grenerals. Thank you Historymarch!
Hey I have a big request ..can you do a series on khalid bin Waleed like you are doing on Hannibal ? 😁
At some point yes. I will surely do Walaja soon I hope. Depends on my research.
fyi....pronounce hoplite: ho' pli' te....hoepleetay. great video!
Great video as always HM. Ancient Greece is a fantastic and very interesting period in History.
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Peloponnesian war is one of the most underrated wars in history.
I bet someone mentioned it already, but the voice-over has some weird cuts. Other than that, great video! Keep em up :)
Been looking for Athens vs Sparta videos, but when I saw the notification of this, I dropped whatever I’m doing to watch this
Enjoyable very good من موحا الروقي💗💗
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Will you do the Theban-Spartan War next?
thank you:) these history channels never do anything about the Peleponnesian war
I love the maps and all the cities ..
It really makes it clear that this was not just some dust ball backwater but a land teeming with humanity.
The Hellene culture really did cover a lot of ground.
School made me hate history, this channel made me love it.
Peloponesian war was the final match between the Dorian and Ionian Greeks.
Ah yes, The Peloponnesian war! not many channels cover it, thank you HM!
Cheers KHK! I wanted to cover this topic for the longest time. Finally got the chance!
@@HistoryMarche keep it up. You have many more battles to cover 😊
When I saw the Spartan commander have the bubble with the women in the toilet. I just lost it lmao
It's a plank reference.
@@HistoryMarche lmao cool beans
When you thought you were almost done binging all the vids
Some noticeable audio cuts overlapping in this one. Still 9/10 video great job