@@daith_izumi That was only in Persona 3 Portable because the game came out after Persona 4. Margaret does not appear in the vanilla Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES.
Elizabeth is still quite hammy even after at least 3 years have passed since the events of Persona 3. But that's what I love about her. Her silly and fun loving nature is what makes her my favorite Velvet Room attendant and the fact that she loved Minato/Makoto so much to leave the Velvet Room to find a way to free him from the Great Seal.
I thought it was 2 years since the events of Persona 3 are in 2009 and the events of Persona 4 are in 2011 and Yukiko was in Persona 3 Portable and she even mentioned Chie
@@animesenpai1163 Persona 3 FES took place in 2009-2010 while Persona 4 Golden took place 2011-2012. Arena duology took place in 2012, two months after the True Ending and three months before Golden Epilogue.
@@LBF197He's too much of a gigachad for that. Izanami gave him a flash pass to Yomi (Hell) and bro just crawled his way out so he could protect his friends
@@lyao4320The Wild Cards are absolutely stronger than their attendants by the end of their journeys. Not by a wide margin, but the existence of the secret boss battles in which the attendants go all-out is evidence enough.
@@savien6401 I have not played the FemC route in portable because I know that P3 social links end in sex (and the thought of a character that represents me being bent over by some dude genuinely does not appeal to me) so I don't know Theo much but he seems to have more common sense than Elizabeth along with being more submissive and tame also he somehow feels... Incredibly kind? Margaret the seductive dominatrix As a bonus the P5 attendants Caroline wannabe sadist and emotionless loli then there's Lavenza who I would describe as blue super natural Haru
Elizabeth: Before we begin, I would like to inform you that this fight has several rules. I'm not going to tell you what those rules are, but if you break any of them I will immediately kill you. Shall we begin? Yu: um... no? Elizabeth: Megidolan.
Up until today I was wondering why was Minato/Makoto not in P4AU and then I thought about the true ending in P3 and then it hit me harder than that bullet hit shinjiro. 😰☠️
Joshua Leahy am I the only one that realized that this whole thing slowed down elizabeth in her search to free minato, well mostly the parts where she had to deal with Shadbrys and stuff
@@aruekai with strikers story possible so we shall see or they may continue Persona 6 at that point P5 cast left off on a good note Elizabeth who knows where and what she's doing in P5 Timeline
4:37 Well, what do you know. Both Margaret and Elizabeth are sisters. That also means Lavenza is a sister as well, because of her eyes, dress, and hair color.
I like to think of the Velvet Room siblings Elizabeth, Theo, Margaret, and Lavenza like that of the Dragon Ball Angels. Human-like brings with powers that skyrocket that of any human being
@@gaspenpayne6755 persona 3 portable added the option for you to play as a female character. Thus if you play as female, you get a male attendant named Theo instead of Elizabeth
Looking back, this is equivalent to Yu Narukami accidentally starting the battle with no SP and somehow living long enough to consider it a “draw” The more I think on it, the more I realize that maybe him never dying to Izanami is probably more than simply InO at work.
I’m a little disappointed we haven’t seen any more of Elizabeth’s character arc. In Arena and Ultimax it’s implied that she’s studying the wild cards and trying to be more like them so she can free Makoto from being the seal. But after Ultimax, we’ve only seen her in Persona Q, Q2, and Dancing Moon Night, which all take place before January 31st 2010, when Makoto prevented the fall. Maybe the fact that Makoto’s in Persona 5 Royal means Elizabeth one day succeeds, but what I wouldn’t give for a Persona 5 Arena game to finally wrap up that plot. Imagine seeing SEES as 30 year olds all recognizing Makoto, still the same age as he was when they fought Nyx. All the emotion of them embracing their friend after over ten years sealing away a god. And the Futaba making fun of the fact that he still has an MP3 player from 2009
Keep in mind that those fights happen in the Velvet Room which in of itself has the ability to bend Time and Space Minato and Yu both are likely taken from their respective time periods.
The Yu Narukami & Makoto Yuki you fight in the Velvet Room are cognitive versions of what Igor and the Attendants think they are like and how strong they think they are. Persona 5 doesn't have the real versions of Yu & Makoto, and if Elizabeth succeeded in saving Makoto from the seal then he'd still be dead. You can't save Makoto from the seal, since then Nyx would be called back by Erebus and also Makoto's body is already dead. The only thing protecting the seal is Makoto's spirit so if he's freed from the seal Makoto won't come back alive.
I’m thinking yu it’s probably rusty from not fighting for a while since during his adventures in p4 he can solo Margaret who is at least twice as strong as Elizabeth.
@@aresrivera9744 In the tournament only the winner can move forward so Yu has been fighting everybody until he meets Aigis and both are forced to fight because it was the only way to reach the culprit. They can´t use multiple personas because the Velvet room can´t help them only give a little assistance so the wildcards have to fight with their real personas only (Athenea and Izanagi). Elizabeth appears just when their fight was over and Yu (the winner) was at the limit of his stamina, something normal we are talking about a human teen that has fought a combat robot. Anyway the canon fight between Yu and Elizabeth seems to be in Elizabeth´s route where Yu unleashes the true power of the wildcard.
@@amarant1275 so yu in arena is A lot less powerful than yu during endgame right? Also I’m guessing the Lore explanation for why their personas are limited to original is because they let go of all the other personas and they can’t buy them back at the velvet room right now.
@@aresrivera9744 Yes.The fact is that he´s more powerful than before, this is mentioned by the killer (we know who) but the tournament rules are set to weaken the participants so he isn´t at his 100%. However the wildcard power is still in him and as I´ve mentioned there is a key moment where he unleashes it and Elizabeth says that she doesn´t remember to have seen such power before and is scared. About the personas yes, that could be the case. The contract is over so they can´t make use of the Velvet room, Margaret give some advices but that is all.
Yeah but the issue is erebus erebus can't permanently die because it's mankind's grief Elizabeth does kill erebus once a year but she needs a way to free Makoto and keep nyx and erebus under control
"I'm currently utterly neglecting my duties!" She sounds so happy about that.
She's like a newborn just enjoying life with no restrictions
she's the manic pixie dream girl final boss
I love it, when a Wild Card MC meets another Velvet Room assistant, than the one they know
Imagine Ren got his calling card from Elizabeth
Joseph Cruz Minato meeting the twins sounds interesting.
@@carsontetric3018 ISNDIEW YES
I remember playing Persona 3 and when I saw Margaret, I was wishing that I had her instead of Elizabeth
@@daith_izumi That was only in Persona 3 Portable because the game came out after Persona 4. Margaret does not appear in the vanilla Persona 3 and Persona 3 FES.
3:40- Nice to know Yu is fully aware of his God Forsaken Swag powers and how he has little control over it...
Please become funny
@@chibs1235Damn, not even close to ratioing.
Elizabeth is still quite hammy even after at least 3 years have passed since the events of Persona 3. But that's what I love about her. Her silly and fun loving nature is what makes her my favorite Velvet Room attendant and the fact that she loved Minato/Makoto so much to leave the Velvet Room to find a way to free him from the Great Seal.
I thought it was 2 years since the events of Persona 3 are in 2009 and the events of Persona 4 are in 2011 and Yukiko was in Persona 3 Portable and she even mentioned Chie
@@daith_izumi this sequence of events in Persona 4AU happens after the Persona 4 game which is I think already in 2012.
@@daith_izumi Yukiko and Chie only shows up and mentioned in FeMC route in Portable. Arena games follows up from FES which is also the Male MC route.
@@animesenpai1163 Persona 3 FES took place in 2009-2010 while Persona 4 Golden took place 2011-2012. Arena duology took place in 2012, two months after the True Ending and three months before Golden Epilogue.
Man, even Igor loved Makoto Yuki.
2:38
Life has many doors, Yu Boy!
Let's just hope he himself doesn't become a door.
Elizabeth already dealt with one has it is.
@The Phantom lmao
@@LBF197He's too much of a gigachad for that. Izanami gave him a flash pass to Yomi (Hell) and bro just crawled his way out so he could protect his friends
"I think I'll call it a draw." Yeah Yu keep telling yourself that
considering that it became a cutscene rather than an actual fight... yeah I think it can be a draw at best.
Tbf, Margaret is the stronger sister lore- wise and Yu faired pretty well against her.
@@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666 I thought he fought her with the full investigation team though
PNexus my bad, I was thinking about the anime.
@@the-art-of-whoopinyobehind6666 I mean, you can still fight her alone and win.
6:11
Glue? Flu? Influenza?
Lavenza?
@XxBeastyBlazinXx 😐
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@XxBeastyBlazinXx I was well aware chief
Hotel trivago
@@savandquit7897 that's funny 🤣🤣
Oh look it’s Elizabeth from persona 4.
What timeline are you from?
Yu Narukami The best timeline.
Is this a Game Theory reference?
Fabrizio Deza Yes
Yu Narukami Well technically that dancing timeline is just the normal timeline sense they’re all canon.
For anyone who couldn't get past Elizabeth's Elizabethness the words were clue and fruit.
How she got to chimney though, is kinda funny.
She got to chimney from flue as far as I know (y'know, like what 'floo' is based on)
I had to look into that. She went from Flute to Flue, which is basically a chimney.
I love how you meet Elizabeth and you can hear burn my dread in the background
Burnnnn my breaddd
I like to imagine that Burn My Dread playing when Elizabeth was completely diegetic. The song follows her wherever she goes.
Im so happy that the Yu voice actor got to talk more than "persona!" Or "hya!"
"I think i'll call it a draw"
Elizabeth's 9999 Dmg Megidolaon and 20K Hp Diarahan : Pfffft, sure.
Door-kun: Pathetic...
Her older sister is stronger
Nah Wild Cards can always beat the attendants, no matter how bullshit they are, that's the *true* power of the wild-card
@@BB_Promoter bruh, they can’t, all velvet room attendants is outstanding strong. Eliz even one shotted Erebus to the moon
@@lyao4320The Wild Cards are absolutely stronger than their attendants by the end of their journeys. Not by a wide margin, but the existence of the secret boss battles in which the attendants go all-out is evidence enough.
When my cousin asked me about Elizabeth I just described her as the blue psychopath that has to much power
Kano Aoki so if they ask about Margaret or Theo, what u going to tell them
@@savien6401 I have not played the FemC route in portable because I know that P3 social links end in sex (and the thought of a character that represents me being bent over by some dude genuinely does not appeal to me) so I don't know Theo much but he seems to have more common sense than Elizabeth along with being more submissive and tame also he somehow feels... Incredibly kind?
Margaret the seductive dominatrix
As a bonus the P5 attendants Caroline wannabe sadist and emotionless loli then there's Lavenza who I would describe as blue super natural Haru
Saiven Theo is the adorkable gentleman in blue
@@theadmirableadmiral7408Innocent Man
I know it's the same voice actor, but all i can hear is Adachi talking to Elizabeth lol
Elizabeth: Before we begin, I would like to inform you that this fight has several rules. I'm not going to tell you what those rules are, but if you break any of them I will immediately kill you. Shall we begin?
Yu: um... no?
Elizabeth: Megidolan.
Up until today I was wondering why was Minato/Makoto not in P4AU and then I thought about the true ending in P3 and then it hit me harder than that bullet hit shinjiro. 😰☠️
Aw I know right! Hit me harder than Aigis's guns. Nuuu my heart, not again.. 🚪 ;-; ♥️
Joshua Leahy am I the only one that realized that this whole thing slowed down elizabeth in her search to free minato, well mostly the parts where she had to deal with Shadbrys and stuff
but why can she still summon Thanatos as her combat Persona, isn't Thanatos tied with Minato/Makoto as his Death Arcana?
@@savien6401 And what about in P5? Or we gotta wait another P5 Arena to see more plot
@@aruekai with strikers story possible so we shall see or they may continue Persona 6 at that point P5 cast left off on a good note Elizabeth who knows where and what she's doing in P5 Timeline
Yes, the final batttle victory theme SHOULD play every time Elizabeth enters the room
BURN MY BREAD!
defend against a sword with a book
A book with all of Door Kuns personas can definetely block a sword.
Only the Messiah in that book can break the sword
orpheus telos
The book is mightier than the sword
It’s the door kun’s conpendium it probably has the worlds strongest personas it can can take someone hitting a sword against
Makoto Yuki's lover.
2:32
4:37 Well, what do you know. Both Margaret and Elizabeth are sisters. That also means Lavenza is a sister as well, because of her eyes, dress, and hair color.
I like to think of the Velvet Room siblings Elizabeth, Theo, Margaret, and Lavenza like that of the Dragon Ball Angels. Human-like brings with powers that skyrocket that of any human being
@@daith_izumi who's Theo?
@@gaspenpayne6755 Theodore, the assistant of the Female Protagonist of P3 Portable ( Kotone Shiome )
@@gaspenpayne6755 persona 3 portable added the option for you to play as a female character. Thus if you play as female, you get a male attendant named Theo instead of Elizabeth
@@khalduras784 yep and its canonically that he is elizabeth's younger brother despite the height difference
Random Fun Trivia: Yu and Elizabeth's JPN VAs also dubbed Hawke from Dragon Age 2 in Japanese. lol
The more you know
@@nerothewateruser8030 And Bethany and Merrill are Sae and Morgana in that version. lol
@@doodlebugfour7070 kinda makes me wish Sae could've understood Mona
Yu:No illusions at work right It's Uh... impressive your in your right mind
elizabeth is one of the best attendants
My ranking goes: Elizabeth > Margaret > Theodore > Lavenza
@@Fanimati0n yes
@@Fanimati0n yeah barley got that much better info on Lavenza well Royal expands
9:46, Gatling Cannon, Protein
Chie: Can I eat you?
Yosuke: Huh? Sure.
8:17 ....how is she blocking a Sword... With a Leather book?!
It's a magic book so.
You thought the book of the dead nope just a magic book
She’s Elizabeth, it doesn’t matter
@@theadmirableadmiral7408 that toooo
A DEMON CAME FROM IGOR VICE VERSA PHILEMON reference philemon made Igor igor made the velvet siblings residents
6:42 Yu went full Jotaro
But Yu is Jonathan Joestar. Both of them have the samd English VA
I just love how Elizabeth gets confused by two or more words that sounds the same. Really suits her character
and that last word thats just out there
Narukami is such a chad he accidentally hit on Elizabeth
Anyone else hear burn my dread in the background?
hmm no that's just you, it's totally not blasting in the background without any subtlety at all.
The Chosen Failure 😂
Elizabeth is the only fictional Woman who sends a shiver down my spine every time I hear her voice. 😅
elizabeth's entrance was so eccentric they started playing burn my dread
Wait, how did she crash through the ceiling? if you look up on the screen, the room doesn't even have a ceiling...
Elizabeth is a treasure
Me: Elizabeth?!
Reina: What are you doing here?!
Seliph: That's what I was about to ask!
3:33 he sounded totally like adachi
Here is impossible to not notice they have the same VA
That was a good battle!
Cattle?
Tattle.
Something along those lines at any rate
“Chimneys :)” I’ve never played persona 3 but can say I already like Elizabeth
1:02 YOU.......You are NOT Teddie. You are a shadow!!!!!
Looking back, this is equivalent to Yu Narukami accidentally starting the battle with no SP and somehow living long enough to consider it a “draw”
The more I think on it, the more I realize that maybe him never dying to Izanami is probably more than simply InO at work.
The fact that Yu was able to solo her (in the story) is already an achievement, even if she is holding back.
I’m a little disappointed we haven’t seen any more of Elizabeth’s character arc. In Arena and Ultimax it’s implied that she’s studying the wild cards and trying to be more like them so she can free Makoto from being the seal. But after Ultimax, we’ve only seen her in Persona Q, Q2, and Dancing Moon Night, which all take place before January 31st 2010, when Makoto prevented the fall.
Maybe the fact that Makoto’s in Persona 5 Royal means Elizabeth one day succeeds, but what I wouldn’t give for a Persona 5 Arena game to finally wrap up that plot.
Imagine seeing SEES as 30 year olds all recognizing Makoto, still the same age as he was when they fought Nyx. All the emotion of them embracing their friend after over ten years sealing away a god.
And the Futaba making fun of the fact that he still has an MP3 player from 2009
Keep in mind that those fights happen in the Velvet Room which in of itself has the ability to bend Time and Space Minato and Yu both are likely taken from their respective time periods.
The Yu Narukami & Makoto Yuki you fight in the Velvet Room are cognitive versions of what Igor and the Attendants think they are like and how strong they think they are. Persona 5 doesn't have the real versions of Yu & Makoto, and if Elizabeth succeeded in saving Makoto from the seal then he'd still be dead. You can't save Makoto from the seal, since then Nyx would be called back by Erebus and also Makoto's body is already dead. The only thing protecting the seal is Makoto's spirit so if he's freed from the seal Makoto won't come back alive.
@@ribsmeat2333the whole point is replacing Makoto with another Seal which means he could live, so got no idea what your on about.
Isn’t it implied that Elizabeth in Dancing is from after Yuki’s death?
Aigis just sitting in the corner waving at Elizabeth, her attendant.
I’m thinking yu it’s probably rusty from not fighting for a while since during his adventures in p4 he can solo Margaret who is at least twice as strong as Elizabeth.
This fight takes place after a fight with Aigis and before her other persona users, he was at his limit.
@@amarant1275 wait so what happened exactly?
@@aresrivera9744 In the tournament only the winner can move forward so Yu has been fighting everybody until he meets Aigis and both are forced to fight because it was the only way to reach the culprit. They can´t use multiple personas because the Velvet room can´t help them only give a little assistance so the wildcards have to fight with their real personas only (Athenea and Izanagi). Elizabeth appears just when their fight was over and Yu (the winner) was at the limit of his stamina, something normal we are talking about a human teen that has fought a combat robot.
Anyway the canon fight between Yu and Elizabeth seems to be in Elizabeth´s route where Yu unleashes the true power of the wildcard.
@@amarant1275 so yu in arena is A lot less powerful than yu during endgame right?
Also I’m guessing the Lore explanation for why their personas are limited to original is because they let go of all the other personas and they can’t buy them back at the velvet room right now.
@@aresrivera9744 Yes.The fact is that he´s more powerful than before, this is mentioned by the killer (we know who) but the tournament rules are set to weaken the participants so he isn´t at his 100%. However the wildcard power is still in him and as I´ve mentioned there is a key moment where he unleashes it and Elizabeth says that she doesn´t remember to have seen such power before and is scared.
About the personas yes, that could be the case. The contract is over so they can´t make use of the Velvet room, Margaret give some advices but that is all.
You can't and you will never be able to kill Minato's hot burning wild card
2:51 Elizabeth from Persona 3!!!!!
Elizabeth seems to really want to burn her bread while muttering under her breath
5:07 sh sounds exited
“The NyanCave viewers also watch this”
Fam??? You guys are here???
BURN MY DREADDDDDDDDDDD
Monoteddy
3:33
6:46
Yu: Yare yare daze..
What do you think of Elizabeth can he Really Save him
If she not giving up then I'm not giving up either Makoto Yuki will be save and free to pass on Peacefully
@@roleemack1535 I seriously doubt she'd go through all this trouble only to lose him immediately afterwards and then walk away.
Yeah but the issue is erebus erebus can't permanently die because it's mankind's grief Elizabeth does kill erebus once a year but she needs a way to free Makoto and keep nyx and erebus under control
@@dragosanders4234 she gained the fool arcana, her journey begins
@neutralplayeroflol5722 they better have her in a one shot Manga at least going through her wild card journey bts
We need a fully voiced protag
Didn't margaret told yu about elle p 🤔
question, is that general teddie the real teddie or is he just a copy?
It's a fake Teddie
First
@The Phantom no Elizabeth stay virgin till her dead
Door-kun? Is that you? 😭
CallMe Gekkouga yes it is
@@ripdani4ever You're alive 😭😭😭
CallMe Gekkouga I’m free from the the door