The problem is simple market dynamics sadly. These games are long out of print so the supply cannot increase and prices are set by the few people selling. When the whole retro game pump happened during COVID it set price expectations up which discourages people from selling these games at what used to be normal prices. Now, the only thing that can cause the crash is a sudden increase in supply or a sudden drop in demand. Both are normally quite unlikely but the former is known to happen from time to time. Sadly however, we are seeing a sort of across the board increase here which is a lot harder to induce without the same kind of widespread economic catastrophe that caused it in the first place.
@@jackstraw4222 paying 20bucks for a ps2 or prior game is already disgusting, imagine 500bucks how it is now, we are in the worst timeline, idealy, it should not even pass 15
@@goticogordo You guys don't understand how supply/demand works. You can think a game should not be worth X amount, and you are entitled to that. But when there is low quantity of something this is just what happens. People are willing to pay large amounts of money to add it to their collection. You can play any of these games for free very easily in so many ways. Even on original hardware, in this case a PS2 with a HDD.
It's kind of mad that a £300+ price can be considered cheap for any game. It's still kind of a holy grail price for me - anything worth over £100 is part of a rarefied list in my (admittedly bargain hunted) collection.
@@marmadukesandwich It’s definitely grail prices for me also. It’s also crazy that to buy Original copies of the first 3 silent hill games. You’re going to spend around 500$ usd to get them. Which i love those games and Silent Hill 3 is my favorite. But i can’t justify paying those kind of prices for them. I definitely can’t justify buying Haunting Ground either. I just wish capcom would just port Haunting Ground and Konami Should do silent hill collections like MGS. And as far as i know Silent Hill 1 has never left PS1 which doesn’t help resale prices.
Because people broke the golden rule. For a retro game you should never pay more than the original launch price. This things are not the mona lisa. If you tell me the game was signed by the director or its the master copy, yes that has collector values. But standard printed copies? Hell no, never pay above the original price.
@@Refreshment01 Especially for games that sold millions of copies and are not rare at all. The prices are only high because the game is popular. There’s no reason a game that sold let’s say 10 million copies should cost the same or more than a game that sold 250k copies. That’s craziness also. And the whole graded games scam. Like Mario going for a million dollars or 500k something stupid like that. Don’t get me wrong most of the Mario games are great but they sold millions of copies. They should be in a bargain bin. They’ll have 1/1 sports cards graded a 10 and they go for 1000’s not a million and it’s the only 1 printed. I know it’s a different media but the concept is the same. And I’m a physical media guy and it’s possible (especially disc based games) that even sealed copies could have a rotted disc inside. And people could just be paying sky high prices for a manual,artwork and a plastic wrapper. You just never know
Just got rule of rose a moment ago. Runs at 4k resolution, wide screen, all cheats enabled if wanted. Cost $0.00 because I downloaded it like a sane person.
@@borizzle1 Its the absolute only sane behaviour when it comes to playing a nearly 25 year old game. Especially one that barely broke a 5/10 rating and didn't even sell enough to make a profit. Heck, that game was being sold in bargain bins for 1.99 at one point...and you want to pay money just to play that on 23 year old hardware? Naa..$0.00 is the only reasonable price. Anything more and you're being ripped off.
@@rexcatston8412OPL doesn’t cost money broski, but it does save you from the ugly visual “enhancement” rabbit hole and lets you play on a console like god intended 🙏 Even better you can simply burn a DVD 💽
@@rexcatston8412 strong disagree. You need to play on real hardware to get the real experience. If you're going to emulate, at least use the proper controller and graphics settings that simulate the original resolution, and acknowledge that you're not quite doing it properly.
@@marmadukesandwich real experience? I was a gamer when this game came out lol Real experience and emulation is exactly the same thing.... actually no. I can get a better experience with an emulator as opposed to an unpatched disk on a 30 tonne crt television with a 4:3 480i ratio
Got to point out, it was never banned, It got pulled from sale due to the controversy. There were copies that were sent out to people who pre ordered it in the UK, mostly ones that just broke the street date. I am more than happy to see the price of this drop, Its a game with a great story (awful combat) and very unique. It also sounds bad to say, but it was never actually that rare to get hold of a copy. Its always been readily available for the EU copies on eBay. Just been rather pricey. I would love a UK copy for the collection, but I'm happy to stick with my Italian one. Luckily I bought it back when it was under 3 figures. Glad to hear from someone whos happy to open these games up and play them. These are meant to be fun, not investments. Great Video
Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that the preorders actually went out. Glad you enjoyed the video. I am looking forward to playing my copy when it arrives.
@@gamegaijin I would say play it with an action replay for invincibility so you can ignore the combat, but the frustrating nature of the game needs to be experienced once. Id love to see a remake just to sort the combat. If it worked I believe it could have stood with the great horror games
There was a good studio behind it after all, so it is a shame if the gameplay isn't quite right Onion Games (basically the current incarnation of Punchline) have said they would love to remake it, but there is a 1% chance that it would actually happen '^^
@@gamegaijinMay I ask where you've got this information from? Would love to be able to confirm Onion Games stating that there's just a 1% chance that they'll actually remake the game. I was holding out hope for a potential releasy by one of the limited run distributors e.g. Limited Run Games for modern plattforms, however if what you said is found to be true, I probably should just go ahead and buy an original copy for the PS2.
A market crash is around the corner. Games collecting is saturated now, everyone is at it. For those who pay stupid amounts for a game then it crashes I have no sympathy. Most collectors don’t even play the games.
I totally agree with you. The maximum I would pay for a retro game is around €100 and only for one I have a really special memory with. Otherwise, I would just emulate or play it on a modded console, as you said.
I bought my copy of this game back in 2007. I saw the controversy in the papers and ran to my closest retailer to get one. Not because of some Nostradamus-level foresight, but because I liked to collect stuff that ruffled people's, mostly politicians, feathers, like Rule of Rose did. 20 euros, new. I forgot about it for a good while. My jaw dropped when I discovered how outrageously expensive it has become in the retrogaming space.
It will be interesting to see if this does have an effect on the price in other regions. I don't expect it to, but it would be nice if it got a bit cheaper for everyone else as well.
@@gamegaijinFrom my experience i've seen NA 360 games shoot up this year very quickly compared to their other region versions, so i wonder how this situation will turn out with this game
That's a good find and thanks for making the vid. I was observing this game for a while, since I collect Survival Horror games, and finally pulled the trigger. Like you I believe games need to be played, and played it will be.
Noticed this at the start of the week also because others also kept seeing lots of Rule of Rose. Does feel like the UK stock has finally been found. Hoping the price comes down a bit more as I love collecting Survival Horror but years ago I made the decision not to pay more than £100 (£150 at a push) for any game I really want to own. Feel bad for anyone that paid the higher prices but that’s why I set my upper limits.
Great video! Either in your follow up video or when you stream the game, I’d love to learn more about the engineered controversy that led to the game being banned in the UK.
Marvel vs capcom 2 I remember at the time was stupid expensive on the PS2 new sealed, they sold for around $400-$1,000+ promo version with barcode punched-hole ebay, and they still expensive.
Hoping Kuon and Haunting Ground will have the same treatment. Also €200+ is still quite expensive but I wonder used copies will become more cheaper in upcoming days?
Don't forget "Blood Will Tell" being the last Sega game before Sammy took over. Kuon needs a translation patch though because I have heard it is just a crap translation.
thanks for this research, was looking for some facts about this. saw a post in an italian facebook group by someone who bought one of these copies and they got laughed out of the group, everyone there thinks they're fake (or are trying to manipulate the market)
Usually when prices for collectibles tank suddenly like that it's because someone or someoneS Who were sitting on a decent amount of that product decided to sell sell sell. I see it in the MTG market all the time
I am so happy the RUclips algorithm sent me here. I absolutely love your attitude and philosophy. I’ve made a leap and ordered one myself. So thank you, my concerns that it’s not legit is minimal. Got yourself a new subscriber!
@@gamegaijin oh wow. Thank you! Look forward to more of your content! And thanks again for spreading what you learned. I can’t wait to finally play the game properly!
Me too! I discovered that seller during the week and had a copy in my basket and didn’t go through with the purchase as I was dubious….but Gamegaijin had connected the dots nicely for me. Thank you :)
I can see them for a lot cheaper here being sold locally, but seeing how much many places price them its insane to me. 2018 I got many Ps2 with games for nothing even when it was already retro. We have to remember it has sold the most units in the world, so I don’t see why it would climb up in price
I never thought this day would come. Been wanting to own a copy for YEARS and I feel like it's now almost within my grasp! Also speaking of bargains I bought a Neo Geo AES, boxed, with 4 boxed games for 15 quid in a charity shop in Brixton years ago. I documented part of the process on my own channel!
I'm practically tripping over copies of Zombie Zone in my area. There's also evidently been a reprint of Graffiti Kingdom as I've seen a couple of sealed ones.
I'd sell it now while you still can, ebay has been flooded with thousands of sealed copies of this for months now..the price is going to go down rapidly.
It sucks for those who overspent but this is economics a large quantity has been found so the price should come down because they are not rare in fact thousands of unopened games exist so it has to drop. Certainly no one feels the price should stay unrealistically inflated right? I do appreciate the Italian company being so open when anyone asked. They are affecting the market but aren’t doing some of the watta games shenanigans to speculate and mess with the market anymore then finding a bunch of unopened games already will.
11:55 But of course is market !manipulation. Why are you ashamed to say it 😁 i mean, it was one of the biggest scandals in videogames but it was mostly ignored since it was one of those inconvenient truths that are mo good for business.
So yeah it seems they managed to somehow find an actual shipment of this item that must have gotten lost in storage, bought it as it was never claimed and are now selling them. On one hand this is great as it gives a chance for people to own a copy of this game that for a long time was too expensive to buy for majoirty on the other hand it is terrible for those who overpaid. However if anyone wants to have a copy, this is still probably the cheapest they will ever have a chance to own one. So i would get it if i can. i just did :)
P.S one of my local sellers has a copy of this and are trying to sell it for 599 Euros. They really are trying to get them cheap. to sell for a profit lol.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love Maybe they just arent selling that well. I mean here on the local sites I see several selles trying to sell the same things for 3-5 years now. Also its the EU not the US here most people dont want to pay high for these items.
If someone overpaid that's on them, never buy video games because of the price, but them because you want them. At any price over $150 though, it's probably best left to a free copy off the internet lol.
Here's hoping this will also plummet the NA copies as well. I've always kinda wanted to try this game as I've been getting more into PS2 horror titles as of late.
I saw a rule of rose in a cex window about a month ago and I’m sure it was at least around £525 or even £600 I can’t remember but it did sell. Now it’s currently at £395 so already dropped again. I thought those copies were for sure a scam being sealed and having sold hundreds. Been on the hunt since I was like 8 and searching through every charity shop but I stopped when I stopped finding games that I wanted for good prices.
No they are 100% legit if not CEX would of not dropped it and it is from an offical seller in italy. We actually got lucky that they found a lost shipment but you have to hurry it seems they are running out and they have been steadily increasing the price by an average 10e per day.
Very interesting video and I have seen alot of these italian games on different consoles for older games pop up claiming to be authentic but Im skeptical
Never understood the wild high prices on ebay, not just for retro games, but also for new things. Like i bought a $30 action figure & i check the prices 2 weeks later thinking of buying a spare but then its $120 for all the like 400 copies available on ebay? Clearly its either the same seller(s) or its bunch of resellers/scalpers or the original outlet/factory has raised its price. Im happy i still got most of my original games from my childhood, because the last decade prices just gone mental into the absurd.
I am mad I can't get some more PC Engine Mini controllers affordably now. Because they are bar a PC Engine controller with USB. And no don't ask me about the 8BitDo version, I HATE the revisionist look. I just think it looks dumb with the rounded corners and button turbo's instead of the switches.
I bought the one in euros because it worked out much cheaper. Honestly, I could not find anything that separated the 2 listings other than the languages they were in.
I'm in NA and bought Rule of Rose shortly after release, on sale even. Played it once and it lived on my shelf ever since. At the time of purchase, no one I knew had played or even heard of this game. I only just found out a couple of days ago that it's a rare collectors item. I still have my original NA copy, complete in box with registration. I fired it up on my old PS2 slim and it runs flawlessly. I'm completely torn on whether I should sell it or keep it 🤔
Depends on if you need the money and/or have an emotional attachment to it. If you do keep it, it will be a story. The game you got for a sweet deal. Equally, it sells for so much in NA that I wouldn't blame you for selling it and turning it into several games you want to play.
XD OMG YOU TELLING ME, i can FINALLY have extra disc..... that someone destroyed on my original copy.... that i still have to this day and scared to play it.
Retro Games are starting to be forged very accurately. I recently bought reproduction boxes for Wizardry, Might and Magic, and Ultima. And they look brand new. I could easily age them and sell them as authentic but I won't. Just a heads up. This was always going to happen. When things have a high price and are easy to replicate, people were going to
This aint a replica, it is a legit seller with legit copies from having access to one of the recalled shipping containers filled with them. it had about 5000 in it
Retro games selling for more than $20 just encourages people to mod systems. Let the nerds overpay and display, the rest of us will just download the Rom 😂
It would be nice to see "Blood Will Tell" sell under $100 for a US or EU copy. Same with "Haunting Ground". Do you remember Gamequest Direct, sir? Back in the day this was a store that actually saw a number of PSOne get reprints. They just straight up PAID Atlus to do it and they reprinted Persona 2 and other titles...I kid you not.
Blood Will Tell is actually a very good game with loads of content, story and awesome gameplay. I can only see that game rise in value. Rule of Rose is simply not a fun game to play..
Would you pay that kind of money and then open it to play it? I'd never buy a game I wouldn't even play! I also wouldn't pay that kind of money, especially for a game I wouldn't play. Isn't this game meant to be not very good?
I get that people out there collect sealed copies of games and power to them. But I agree with you, if I am buying a game then I am playing it (especially when it costs this much). The game is supposed to have a good story and atmosphere but falls down in the gameplay department. I quite like the studio behind it so I am looking forward to finally playing it!
Did you enjoy it though? I have been having fun with it so far, even if combat is a bit...janky... The story has me hooked. I am looking forward to continuing it during Friday's stream.
i am not joking, i will become the punisher for retro collectors, we need one, scalpers are ruining our hobby, shit is not the same after 2020, someone need to be the hero the world needs, i will find them, i will fix the timeline. now being serious, i will start getting REPRODUCTIONS now instead of the original ones, fuck these people, at least the people that do the REPO are fans and do it with love, as long as they dont try to cheat customers saying its s ORIGINAL COPY, it should be respectable imo
I have this game on PAL I brought way back in 2006-07 on eBay it was very cheap like around $20-30, few years later it went up to $60, decades later the price went stupid high, the game itself is ok nothing special, Haunted Ground is better.
Bigger demand in there and with greater gamer population than but less inventory especially for a jp made game. So the prices over there go higher than the PAL vers or JP vers
I wouldn't pay £300 for a brand new sealed ps2 console and every ps2 game launched let alone for one old copy of a ps2 game ... controversial, but the ps2 was 1 of my least favourite consoles completely overrated and looking very very dated now.
The price for the US it will never fall. Because you all started buying now for 300 or 250..You all wanted it huh? So you didn't tell us how many UK titles are there, being so certain.. I subscribed by the way. PS2 rarest title ever, now being debunked? I still don't believe its price in EU will fall, until i see this in ebay.
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No one should be paying $500 for a retro game. The market needs to crash already.
i got mine in 2009 for £25 ,the only reason i even bought it was because it was compared to resident evil...and the trailer looked interesting..
The problem is simple market dynamics sadly. These games are long out of print so the supply cannot increase and prices are set by the few people selling. When the whole retro game pump happened during COVID it set price expectations up which discourages people from selling these games at what used to be normal prices. Now, the only thing that can cause the crash is a sudden increase in supply or a sudden drop in demand. Both are normally quite unlikely but the former is known to happen from time to time.
Sadly however, we are seeing a sort of across the board increase here which is a lot harder to induce without the same kind of widespread economic catastrophe that caused it in the first place.
But muh consoomption
@@jackstraw4222 paying 20bucks for a ps2 or prior game is already disgusting, imagine 500bucks how it is now, we are in the worst timeline, idealy, it should not even pass 15
@@goticogordo You guys don't understand how supply/demand works. You can think a game should not be worth X amount, and you are entitled to that. But when there is low quantity of something this is just what happens. People are willing to pay large amounts of money to add it to their collection.
You can play any of these games for free very easily in so many ways. Even on original hardware, in this case a PS2 with a HDD.
It's kind of mad that a £300+ price can be considered cheap for any game. It's still kind of a holy grail price for me - anything worth over £100 is part of a rarefied list in my (admittedly bargain hunted) collection.
@@marmadukesandwich
It’s definitely grail prices for me also. It’s also crazy that to buy Original copies of the first 3 silent hill games. You’re going to spend around 500$ usd to get them. Which i love those games and Silent Hill 3 is my favorite. But i can’t justify paying those kind of prices for them. I definitely can’t justify buying Haunting Ground either. I just wish capcom would just port Haunting Ground and Konami Should do silent hill collections like MGS. And as far as i know Silent Hill 1 has never left PS1 which doesn’t help resale prices.
@@Biggsmech A lot of prices only increased relatively recently. I bought Haunting Ground about 5 years ago for £35.
@@marmadukesandwich I think Kuon was £40 only a few years ago but it suspiciously went up during the pandemic by scammer resellers.
Because people broke the golden rule. For a retro game you should never pay more than the original launch price. This things are not the mona lisa.
If you tell me the game was signed by the director or its the master copy, yes that has collector values. But standard printed copies? Hell no, never pay above the original price.
@@Refreshment01
Especially for games that sold millions of copies and are not rare at all. The prices are only high because the game is popular. There’s no reason a game that sold let’s say 10 million copies should cost the same or more than a game that sold 250k copies. That’s craziness also. And the whole graded games scam. Like Mario going for a million dollars or 500k something stupid like that. Don’t get me wrong most of the Mario games are great but they sold millions of copies. They should be in a bargain bin. They’ll have 1/1 sports cards graded a 10 and they go for 1000’s not a million and it’s the only 1 printed. I know it’s a different media but the concept is the same. And I’m a physical media guy and it’s possible (especially disc based games) that even sealed copies could have a rotted disc inside. And people could just be paying sky high prices for a manual,artwork and a plastic wrapper. You just never know
Unsealing Rule of rose will make it rarer than a sealed copy. :D
LOL
@@Sasahara-Lafiel i just did. I dont spent so much money and dont play it
Just got rule of rose a moment ago.
Runs at 4k resolution, wide screen, all cheats enabled if wanted.
Cost $0.00 because I downloaded it like a sane person.
Playing it on a PC emulator is not sane behavior, use OPL at least
@@borizzle1 Its the absolute only sane behaviour when it comes to playing a nearly 25 year old game. Especially one that barely broke a 5/10 rating and didn't even sell enough to make a profit.
Heck, that game was being sold in bargain bins for 1.99 at one point...and you want to pay money just to play that on 23 year old hardware? Naa..$0.00 is the only reasonable price. Anything more and you're being ripped off.
@@rexcatston8412OPL doesn’t cost money broski, but it does save you from the ugly visual “enhancement” rabbit hole and lets you play on a console like god intended 🙏 Even better you can simply burn a DVD 💽
@@rexcatston8412 strong disagree. You need to play on real hardware to get the real experience. If you're going to emulate, at least use the proper controller and graphics settings that simulate the original resolution, and acknowledge that you're not quite doing it properly.
@@marmadukesandwich real experience?
I was a gamer when this game came out lol
Real experience and emulation is exactly the same thing.... actually no. I can get a better experience with an emulator as opposed to an unpatched disk on a 30 tonne crt television with a 4:3 480i ratio
Got to point out, it was never banned, It got pulled from sale due to the controversy. There were copies that were sent out to people who pre ordered it in the UK, mostly ones that just broke the street date. I am more than happy to see the price of this drop, Its a game with a great story (awful combat) and very unique. It also sounds bad to say, but it was never actually that rare to get hold of a copy. Its always been readily available for the EU copies on eBay. Just been rather pricey. I would love a UK copy for the collection, but I'm happy to stick with my Italian one. Luckily I bought it back when it was under 3 figures. Glad to hear from someone whos happy to open these games up and play them. These are meant to be fun, not investments. Great Video
Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware that the preorders actually went out.
Glad you enjoyed the video. I am looking forward to playing my copy when it arrives.
@@gamegaijin I would say play it with an action replay for invincibility so you can ignore the combat, but the frustrating nature of the game needs to be experienced once. Id love to see a remake just to sort the combat. If it worked I believe it could have stood with the great horror games
There was a good studio behind it after all, so it is a shame if the gameplay isn't quite right
Onion Games (basically the current incarnation of Punchline) have said they would love to remake it, but there is a 1% chance that it would actually happen '^^
If retro gamers had your attitude things would be a lot better. People buy stuff you are going to play.
@@gamegaijinMay I ask where you've got this information from? Would love to be able to confirm Onion Games stating that there's just a 1% chance that they'll actually remake the game. I was holding out hope for a potential releasy by one of the limited run distributors e.g. Limited Run Games for modern plattforms, however if what you said is found to be true, I probably should just go ahead and buy an original copy for the PS2.
A market crash is around the corner.
Games collecting is saturated now, everyone is at it.
For those who pay stupid amounts for a game then it crashes I have no sympathy.
Most collectors don’t even play the games.
Its as if game collecting is a scam. Just dowload the roms and play it on a modded console. Dont play the scalper prices.
I totally agree with you. The maximum I would pay for a retro game is around €100 and only for one I have a really special memory with. Otherwise, I would just emulate or play it on a modded console, as you said.
Yeah that game is not crashing at all. Price charts show a steady incline over time.
Most I ever paid for a game was around £400 for Panzer Dragoon saga back in 2010.
A bargain by today's standards. Still can't bring myself to drop the money on that one '^^
I'm so tempted, but I still can't justify even the current lower price.
I bought my copy of this game back in 2007. I saw the controversy in the papers and ran to my closest retailer to get one. Not because of some Nostradamus-level foresight, but because I liked to collect stuff that ruffled people's, mostly politicians, feathers, like Rule of Rose did.
20 euros, new.
I forgot about it for a good while. My jaw dropped when I discovered how outrageously expensive it has become in the retrogaming space.
In NA , prices have held pretty steady actually..... Cheapest I saw was 800 CND for cib
It will be interesting to see if this does have an effect on the price in other regions. I don't expect it to, but it would be nice if it got a bit cheaper for everyone else as well.
@@gamegaijinFrom my experience i've seen NA 360 games shoot up this year very quickly compared to their other region versions, so i wonder how this situation will turn out with this game
@@HollowedCrowIt should have little effect on the NA market, as the PS2 isn’t region free. In essence they are two different games.
Who what's one is all really has one. And alot of people are not willing to spend over $200 per game
That's a good find and thanks for making the vid. I was observing this game for a while, since I collect Survival Horror games, and finally pulled the trigger. Like you I believe games need to be played, and played it will be.
Good. More people who are interested in actually playing the game can get their hands on it.
Does this not only apply to the PAL version of the game though? What about other region copies?
Noticed this at the start of the week also because others also kept seeing lots of Rule of Rose.
Does feel like the UK stock has finally been found.
Hoping the price comes down a bit more as I love collecting Survival Horror but years ago I made the decision not to pay more than £100 (£150 at a push) for any game I really want to own.
Feel bad for anyone that paid the higher prices but that’s why I set my upper limits.
I bought it. I will nor resell it. I will open and play it. If not now then i will never own it.
Great video! As soon as I heard of these sealed copies I knew the value would tank, you’ve just got a new sub. Keep up the great work
Great video! Either in your follow up video or when you stream the game, I’d love to learn more about the engineered controversy that led to the game being banned in the UK.
You remind me of me when I was more youthful and still had hope and cheerfulness.
Marvel vs capcom 2 I remember at the time was stupid expensive on the PS2 new sealed, they sold for around $400-$1,000+ promo version with barcode punched-hole ebay, and they still expensive.
Hoping Kuon and Haunting Ground will have the same treatment. Also €200+ is still quite expensive but I wonder used copies will become more cheaper in upcoming days?
Don't forget "Blood Will Tell" being the last Sega game before Sammy took over.
Kuon needs a translation patch though because I have heard it is just a crap translation.
Rule of Rose was always a bit cheaper in the EU. The US prices are still in the noosphere last I checked. :/
Even some of the Japanese and other Asian copies have started to get expensive.
So glad I still have my copy from 2006. I have only played it once. What an expensive game it has become over the years!
thanks for this research, was looking for some facts about this. saw a post in an italian facebook group by someone who bought one of these copies and they got laughed out of the group, everyone there thinks they're fake (or are trying to manipulate the market)
Usually when prices for collectibles tank suddenly like that it's because someone or someoneS Who were sitting on a decent amount of that product decided to sell sell sell. I see it in the MTG market all the time
I am so happy the RUclips algorithm sent me here. I absolutely love your attitude and philosophy.
I’ve made a leap and ordered one myself. So thank you, my concerns that it’s not legit is minimal.
Got yourself a new subscriber!
Thanks Wez!
I have been a fan of your stuff since back when you and Larry were on TV, so your comment means a lot. Thanks so much!
@@gamegaijin oh wow. Thank you! Look forward to more of your content! And thanks again for spreading what you learned. I can’t wait to finally play the game properly!
Me too! I discovered that seller during the week and had a copy in my basket and didn’t go through with the purchase as I was dubious….but Gamegaijin had connected the dots nicely for me. Thank you :)
my PS2 has the red blinking lights of death, went to see how much new one cost, damn, price jump, average price about $120.
I can see them for a lot cheaper here being sold locally, but seeing how much many places price them its insane to me. 2018 I got many Ps2 with games for nothing even when it was already retro. We have to remember it has sold the most units in the world, so I don’t see why it would climb up in price
There’s a game shop around the corner from me selling this for €700 brand new it originally package.
I never thought this day would come. Been wanting to own a copy for YEARS and I feel like it's now almost within my grasp! Also speaking of bargains I bought a Neo Geo AES, boxed, with 4 boxed games for 15 quid in a charity shop in Brixton years ago. I documented part of the process on my own channel!
I had a chance to buy it for $40 back in mid 2000s but i didnt buy it cos of animal cruelty scenes
I'm practically tripping over copies of Zombie Zone in my area. There's also evidently been a reprint of Graffiti Kingdom as I've seen a couple of sealed ones.
Holy heck! Finally. That game was so insanely priced.
I never really wanted to sell my copy anyway, but I didn't want to see it lose value either.
Its official now, the opened copy of Rule of Rose is worth more than sealed in 2024.
I got mine today (sealed) for £250... however, I got stung on import tax... charged an extra £65!! Shit!! So, over £300...!
I just bought the last one on Gamespark92! ;-)
Hahaha oh dear
I'd sell it now while you still can, ebay has been flooded with thousands of sealed copies of this for months now..the price is going to go down rapidly.
@@GavinTownsley Nah, I bought it to keep, so I'm just happy to have it. Opened and played it now :)
Same. But still cheaper than a Reddit thread I saw where someone had bought the Italian version for 500+ 🙈
It sucks for those who overspent but this is economics a large quantity has been found so the price should come down because they are not rare in fact thousands of unopened games exist so it has to drop. Certainly no one feels the price should stay unrealistically inflated right? I do appreciate the Italian company being so open when anyone asked. They are affecting the market but aren’t doing some of the watta games shenanigans to speculate and mess with the market anymore then finding a bunch of unopened games already will.
Not as expensive as Rule of Rose
But it would be nice if someone found a Warehouse full of Haunting Ground copies
I hope Haunting Ground goes down in price so I can buy and play it
Just emulate it. It’s a good game but I wouldn’t pay the extortionate price for it.
my friend has that sealed,some of them might get out if the person he got it from sells more.
@@Security848 I hope so I’d love to play it. I just can’t justify the price it’s at now
@@ontheturningaway I wish it was really super cheap so I could buy and play Haunting Ground. I wish the same for Rule Of Rose too
Man, this is super interesting. Great work on this vid my dude.
11:55 But of course is market !manipulation. Why are you ashamed to say it 😁 i mean, it was one of the biggest scandals in videogames but it was mostly ignored since it was one of those inconvenient truths that are mo good for business.
So yeah it seems they managed to somehow find an actual shipment of this item that must have gotten lost in storage, bought it as it was never claimed and are now selling them. On one hand this is great as it gives a chance for people to own a copy of this game that for a long time was too expensive to buy for majoirty on the other hand it is terrible for those who overpaid. However if anyone wants to have a copy, this is still probably the cheapest they will ever have a chance to own one. So i would get it if i can. i just did :)
P.S one of my local sellers has a copy of this and are trying to sell it for 599 Euros. They really are trying to get them cheap. to sell for a profit lol.
@@Bird-Birdy-Love Maybe they just arent selling that well. I mean here on the local sites I see several selles trying to sell the same things for 3-5 years now. Also its the EU not the US here most people dont want to pay high for these items.
If someone overpaid that's on them, never buy video games because of the price, but them because you want them. At any price over $150 though, it's probably best left to a free copy off the internet lol.
Here's hoping this will also plummet the NA copies as well. I've always kinda wanted to try this game as I've been getting more into PS2 horror titles as of late.
Awesome video! Super informative and really well put together! Looking forward to seeing the opening when it arrives! 🙂👍
I saw a rule of rose in a cex window about a month ago and I’m sure it was at least around £525 or even £600 I can’t remember but it did sell. Now it’s currently at £395 so already dropped again. I thought those copies were for sure a scam being sealed and having sold hundreds. Been on the hunt since I was like 8 and searching through every charity shop but I stopped when I stopped finding games that I wanted for good prices.
No they are 100% legit if not CEX would of not dropped it and it is from an offical seller in italy. We actually got lucky that they found a lost shipment but you have to hurry it seems they are running out and they have been steadily increasing the price by an average 10e per day.
speculation is what drove these up. Don't pay scalpers!
Very interesting video and I have seen alot of these italian games on different consoles for older games pop up claiming to be authentic but Im skeptical
Yes i noticed a few sealed uk ones in cex but its cheaper on ebay.
I heard about these a few months ago. Loved the video, i didn't know that much about it but i knew they were real due to friends purchasing them.
Never understood the wild high prices on ebay, not just for retro games, but also for new things. Like i bought a $30 action figure & i check the prices 2 weeks later thinking of buying a spare but then its $120 for all the like 400 copies available on ebay? Clearly its either the same seller(s) or its bunch of resellers/scalpers or the original outlet/factory has raised its price. Im happy i still got most of my original games from my childhood, because the last decade prices just gone mental into the absurd.
I am mad I can't get some more PC Engine Mini controllers affordably now. Because they are bar a PC Engine controller with USB. And no don't ask me about the 8BitDo version, I HATE the revisionist look. I just think it looks dumb with the rounded corners and button turbo's instead of the switches.
I hope it crashes back down below £200.
I’ve seen so many copies sealed on eBay so it’s probably new old stock being released
If games,are made to be played you should rather buy game but play using rom.
I think the reason why is because many retro gamers are just backing up their games to a hard drive.
Im a minute in and my guess is the store found a box of rule of rose.
Did you buy the one priced in euros? Considering it myself and I am not sure why they have it listed twice for different amounts.
I bought the one in euros because it worked out much cheaper.
Honestly, I could not find anything that separated the 2 listings other than the languages they were in.
@@gamegaijin They are sold by two different branches of the same store and it seems one management decided to price it a bit higher than the other.
I'm in NA and bought Rule of Rose shortly after release, on sale even. Played it once and it lived on my shelf ever since. At the time of purchase, no one I knew had played or even heard of this game. I only just found out a couple of days ago that it's a rare collectors item. I still have my original NA copy, complete in box with registration. I fired it up on my old PS2 slim and it runs flawlessly. I'm completely torn on whether I should sell it or keep it 🤔
Depends on if you need the money and/or have an emotional attachment to it. If you do keep it, it will be a story. The game you got for a sweet deal. Equally, it sells for so much in NA that I wouldn't blame you for selling it and turning it into several games you want to play.
There are so many copies of them that probably no one wants it anymore lmao. It’s a sht game too
The game really needs a remake I wanna play it
The European version was never very expensive compared to the ntsc version which is still 700 easy for a cib.
I wish this happened to the north american version, but that one will remain $650 - $700.
XD OMG YOU TELLING ME, i can FINALLY have extra disc..... that someone destroyed on my original copy.... that i still have to this day and scared to play it.
Get ready for more
Love the way you think, man. I completely agree.
Great video….now, can you go and start a campaign to find a cache of Kuon titles too please? :)
Thank you for your service on sharing this info as much as you have o7
GG, consider keeping it sealed!
Thanks! But after spending £250 this will be going in my PS2. For science!
@@gamegaijinI can't wait to see that!
Great stuff, more content like this would be dope.
It's funny I got rule of rose in a ps2 bundle of like 20 games and a system for 8p dollars and then I sold it online for 900
i went to check, the games are no less than 1000 now. so no, not becoming affordable. glad i got my game before it became rare.
I ordered one and they sent me two by accident, so cex gave me 330ish for one. And I have another sealed, it’s going to be worthless tho
Retro Games are starting to be forged very accurately.
I recently bought reproduction boxes for Wizardry, Might and Magic, and Ultima. And they look brand new. I could easily age them and sell them as authentic but I won't. Just a heads up. This was always going to happen. When things have a high price and are easy to replicate, people were going to
This aint a replica, it is a legit seller with legit copies from having access to one of the recalled shipping containers filled with them. it had about 5000 in it
With that many sold, it can't be that rare.
Somebody must’ve found some dead stock 😂
Unfortunately, it seems to have increased in NA
I sold my copy during the pandemic for $600
Cool shirt now the song is stuck in my head
Great now the game will spike in a few months from now after these cheap copies are all scooped up
Retro games selling for more than $20 just encourages people to mod systems. Let the nerds overpay and display, the rest of us will just download the Rom 😂
Why do you only have 55 subs? Your vids are very well done and entertaining.
I agree
98 now
@@HollowRick happy days
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the support.
It would be nice to see "Blood Will Tell" sell under $100 for a US or EU copy. Same with "Haunting Ground".
Do you remember Gamequest Direct, sir? Back in the day this was a store that actually saw a number of PSOne get reprints. They just straight up PAID Atlus to do it and they reprinted Persona 2 and other titles...I kid you not.
Blood Will Tell is actually a very good game with loads of content, story and awesome gameplay. I can only see that game rise in value. Rule of Rose is simply not a fun game to play..
That definitely isn't the case with the American version
Would you pay that kind of money and then open it to play it? I'd never buy a game I wouldn't even play! I also wouldn't pay that kind of money, especially for a game I wouldn't play. Isn't this game meant to be not very good?
I get that people out there collect sealed copies of games and power to them. But I agree with you, if I am buying a game then I am playing it (especially when it costs this much).
The game is supposed to have a good story and atmosphere but falls down in the gameplay department. I quite like the studio behind it so I am looking forward to finally playing it!
I paid 0 dollars to experience rules of rose. Good luck to the rest of y’all tho
Did you enjoy it though? I have been having fun with it so far, even if combat is a bit...janky...
The story has me hooked. I am looking forward to continuing it during Friday's stream.
And now because video it will go back up!
Great news for UK gamers but I can’t play PAL games on my US PS2 console! US copies of Rule of Rose are still outrageously high!😂
The PlayStation Ain't Dead Podcast covered this story back in March.
i am not joking, i will become the punisher for retro collectors, we need one, scalpers are ruining our hobby, shit is not the same after 2020, someone need to be the hero the world needs, i will find them, i will fix the timeline.
now being serious, i will start getting REPRODUCTIONS now instead of the original ones, fuck these people, at least the people that do the REPO are fans and do it with love, as long as they dont try to cheat customers saying its s ORIGINAL COPY, it should be respectable imo
I have this game on PAL I brought way back in 2006-07 on eBay it was very cheap like around $20-30, few years later it went up to $60, decades later the price went stupid high, the game itself is ok nothing special, Haunted Ground is better.
All being so sure from the comments, that its price will fall now...
Ok let's see.
I bought one of the listings, i know the price will drop but its so cool to just have one at a cheaper price
The American versions were always worth more for some reason.
Bigger demand in there and with greater gamer population than but less inventory especially for a jp made game. So the prices over there go higher than the PAL vers or JP vers
Because Rule of Roses ain’t fun to play. I’ll keep saying it, games need to be good and rare to catch high prices.
Probably come to the switch
A Polish RUclipsr has already opened one of these sealed copies and it looks 100% legit
That is great news! My copy should hopefully be here on Monday.
Który youtuber?
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I wouldn't pay £300 for a brand new sealed ps2 console and every ps2 game launched let alone for one old copy of a ps2 game ... controversial, but the ps2 was 1 of my least favourite consoles completely overrated and looking very very dated now.
Sold my copy like almost 4 years ago for 150 euro or so, oh well covid crap happened
Japan version complete $264
Still put of my reach.
The price for the US it will never fall.
Because you all started buying now for 300 or 250..You all wanted it huh?
So you didn't tell us how many UK titles are there, being so certain..
I subscribed by the way.
PS2 rarest title ever, now being debunked?
I still don't believe its price in EU will fall, until i see this in ebay.
That's so sad. Imagine you find that game on a flee market and it's the center piece of your collection and now.. it lost a lot of value