Chances of minimizing that are slim to none. The only things they can really improve is changing from nuts and bolts to some kind of quick connect system. There simply aren't a lot of ways to keep the compact setup while speeding up the rail setup.
Are the inverter and batteries included on this container? If it could deploy from a flatbed trailer without needing a crane or any other machines this would be very useful
Gute Idee, gut umgesetzt! Genial wäre, wenn die Vorbereitungen bis zum Ausklappen noch automatisierter ablaufen würden. Sprich: Diese ganzen Metellteile am Anfang müssten vormontiert sein. Die Schienen sollten genauso gefaltet sein. Um die Bodenunbenheiten auszugleichen würden Hartholz‐ oder Hartkunststoff-Klötze untergelegt, während die Schienen einfach nur ausgeklappt würden. Es müssten 2 Personen reichen. Es sollte kein großer Kran mehr erforderlich sein, optimal wäre ein Gabelstapler. Der Container sollte auf einem LKW-Unterbau angeliefert werden, mittels 4 ausfahrbaren Füßen wird er angehoben, der LKW-Untersatz fährt weg, der Container wird auf den Boden abgesenkt. So wäre es perfekt!
Noch besser wäre es, wenn das Container quasi als Drohne mit Propeller fungieren und zum Einsatzort fliegen könnte. Dann könnte man z.B. bei schattenwerfenden Hindernissen den Container mehrmals am Tag je nach Sonnenstand "umfliegen" und so die maximale Ausbeute an Solarenergie haben. Vllt. könnte man die Propeller so konstruieren, dass sie sich im Stillstand drehen und als Windkraftanlage fungieren können. So könnte man Solar- und Windenergie gleichzeitig nutzen.
In fact, its need too much heavy machine, a container mover, a crane, a wheel-loader and you need 400v external electricity to deploy it, 4 mans, and a mega flat area. Need to be more auto deploy, more easier, more placeable. Maybe with a battery pack in the middle for auto deploy, less solar panels for not use a football stadium, and can be put directly with a truck container crane or back loader. It's very good, but i don't understant ho is the customer for that type of mega structur. it's take a full parking aera for a festival. compare to a 3.5to trailer with a Caterpillar Gens.
this seems way over engineered. And you need a motorized trailer, a 120T crane, a front loader, a boom truck, a flat bed, and 5 workers? It seems like more work to layout half a kilometer of rail and assemble a motorized conveyor than to simply just unload the panels by hand. Why not make the container self deploy? Have it crawl along and unfold itself.
Quite simple actually. You would need to over-engineer the entire solar array structure in order to do so. Either you have a beefed up, over engineered rail system, or you need to have an over-engineered beefed up array structure to account for all the bumps and holes in the ground. You would need to have automatic leveling feet which are expensive and heavy for each ground point. The entire reason you need to have a 120 ton crane is because the total weight of the structure is 30-40 ton. Even if the system got more mobile, you'd still need a crew of at least three to handle the weight responsibly. Additional the amount of power these systems generate is no joke and you need experienced electrical engineers to work and validate those systems. To simply put, the engineering put forward in this system enabled them to put as many solar panels into the container. As a downside they require a larger (not by much) crew and an expensive crane. I do think they put some thought into the economics of this system.
sorry, das ist sehr groovy Blasmusik, die einen unaufdringlich durchs Video geleitet und dabei unterbewusst die Wertigkeit des Ganzen unterstreicht. Habs gleich Shazamt: Pro Brass
It does indeed look like the panels aren't plugged in, but there's no reason why they couldn't be wired permanently, so I'm guessing this is an uncompleted version or something like that.
@@NTM2009 Ah, you meant plug it in to the grid, I thought you meant plugging the individual panels together / connecting them to the inverter. Your "issue" really is a non-issue though. Either temporarily run a generator, if you're in a really remote location, or just run an extension cord. These things aren't meant to be some miracle device that's an all in one setup, they're gonna be a part in setups that have a generator and battery. Newer generators come with battery banks these days, so the generator can run at optimal power when under low load and charge the batteries at the same time, saving fuel and reducing noise. Add this solar array to one of those generators, and the generator has to run even less, again reducing fuel consumption and noise. People should really stop seeing issues and look for solutions instead. Pretty much everything can be solved. Instead of just saying "this sucks because of X", how about "X seems to be an issue, maybe that could be solved by Y".
@timderks5960 that is an all in one setup, it has the inverters on it already so no need for generator, or even batteries if your not storing power. Have done a couple systems where there is no power supply on site other then the panels and inverters sending power out, no incoming power and not going to run generator up to them every time they need opened and closed. Put a couple batteries in the system.and they couple work all in their own. Also generators are better to run near max output then at low output. Running near max will make them most efficient and last longest
That motor is probably only a couple of horsepower tops. Looks like its just moving a section of chain belt that grabs a tab on the bottom of each panel segment and pushes it along and is only connected to at most 2 segments directly at a time. At around 3kw of solar per segment there's really no reason the workers couldnt unfold the first segment by hand and use that to power the motor to unfold the rest. even if your only geting 50% of the rated output of the solar thats still enough to run a 2hp motor and your available power will just go up as segments unfold. You could also probalby jump start the system off a couple of car batteries or any portable power station capable of a couple of KW of output for a minute or two After that like I said there's more than enough solar avalible if the sun is out after a few segments are exposed.
@@timoclemens5379 i worked on military deployable shelters that were larger than this that didn't require a crane to load out and transport and set up...the technology was invented in the 70s.
@@whyomgwhywtf Shelters don't weigh 40 tons, nor do they contain delicate components. Just because there is an example out there that can deploy without a crane, doesn't mean it can be applied to any situation. Military shelters are designed to be banged around, be abused by military personnel and are generally installed on a location which permits driving vehicles around the premises. This is a totally different application. Also I would like to know which military shelter can be (semi-)automatically deployed to a width of 50+ meters. Most military units these days come in containers, which require some form of unloading, either by crane or forklift. And I would really like to see a container forklift working in a grass field, but that would be an impossibility as 4 wheels will dig into the ground once you load 40 tons onto the tines. Equally so for a roll off container. You still would need to drive that truck into the field, place the units and drive away without completely destroying the field. Good luck with that. You could of course install driving plates, for which you need another truck and a smaller crane to place those plates, but also kind of defeats the purpose.
@@stefanoromani1032 Have you ever seen a waste container installed on a grass field without any form of road? Probably not and I would find it highly doubtful you ever will. First of all, the truck isn't meant to be run off road, nor will you ever escape a grass field with 40 tons pressing down on all wheels. And before you comment you can place temporary driving plates. Sure, you can, but you would also require a truck, a small crane and an additional crew to do so.
@@jor7137 Da hab ich aber schon Strom. Und in Venezuela juckt es keinen wenn der Generatur läuft und säuft. Nichtmal in der EU. Da wurden auch Dieselgeneratoren aufgebaut um die E-Autos zu laden.
Your cameraman seems to be more interested in playing with the drone than capturing actual useful footage of the setup. I know more about the nearby buildings and fields than I do about your panel setup.
I'm also pretty sure it's not allowed to fly over that road and so close to industrial complexes and electrical power lines. But enough complaining I love the idea of the product.
At first this looked like such an awesome conceptualized product with tons of potential, however as the video progressed it made me reconsider. If it was mostly/completely automated where the panels would've expanded on their own much like how the solar panels on a satellite expands in orbit, it would've been fantastic. But with all of the work, labor, complexity and moving parts involved, it practically makes it very hard to argue deploying this design vs a more permanent/mobile solution.
5B Solar in Australia has a really simple system , they have refined the dollars to the sharp edge over the last 8 - 10 years , cyclone proof and a bank of panels deploys in 2 minutes
Too much work. Design it in a way so that you don‘t need a crane. Best would be to deplay it right away from a truck or have some wheels on it to do the fine positioning like with trailers.
You are missing the point. Try to transport and set up those panels one by one with two people. Let's see if you dont take a whole year. It has already been simplified. Also, do you understand the complexity that comes with mechanization? Would you rather hire a crane operator or hire a technician to operate the damn thing? What happens when the mechanism fails? What about space? Think about it.
I'm just gonna guess you're an American based on this reply. In the EU, simple flatbed trucks have cranes built right on them that humiliate most purpose-built American cranes. The one you can see from 3:02 onwards is just a small one. This solar unit could easily be moved and placed by one vehicle, one vehicle could transport 2 or 3 of these units, and place them all within a couple of hours. For 240 solar panels per unit, that's extremely quick setup.
@timderks5960 If Americans are stupid to you, then you are 10 notches of stupid below them. What happens when you need to deploy ten or twenty modules, or even a thousand. Now, you also should have a thousand cranes lying in the field? Are you out of your European head? 🤣🤣🤣
if it had the ability to unfold/fold into a protective structure, it would be interesting for use in areas that see potentially destructive weather, like the 2024/03/15 hail storm that struck a solar farm in texas.
OK as concept. Some more love/improvements needed IMHO. Hints: make it flatbed trailer no-crane needed + single operator to deploy (many people to manually assemble rails and two "cable remote" operators to deploy is bad), maybe less panels but battery in the base of the structure (don't make it top heavy) + inverters => top disaster power supply recovery solution or "mobile / no-permit" solar farm solution.
Yeah I think we need to stop saying solar or wind are for disaster response. During a disaster you need reliable power. You need diesel generators. Leave wind and solar to offset emissions and reduce fuel cost on a grid.
sorry, but no. This requires a crane, forklift, does not hold a battery and requires a very large (flat!) footprint. This would have been way better. A modern household can run pretty well on 4 solar panels, or one of these large ones. Unloading the container could provide a few easy kits to install in a garden, that can be lifted by hand and installed with an easy battery + connector system (probably just a few power outlets) for the emergency need. This is for something else.. Something very specific, and definetely not for disaster responders. the 30 mins to "unfold" is not the 30 mins installation. That took several hours and a lot of heavy machinery as you can see in the vid.
Connect the modules more flexible and add two wheels on the lower part of each module then it doesn’t need 5 hours and 25 minutes to finish, but only 25 minutes - even on uneven (😊) surface
Exactly I am even struggling to understand the application, too much ideal environment and manhours, not to mention the long space in one stretch and angle of 50% panels is compromised
I don't understand what this is for? If you want temporary portable power wouldn't fossil fuels be more flexible and reliable solution? Is the intention for this to be like a quickly deployed permanent installation?
That you have a timer for just a small part of the deployment seems to be grossly misrepresenting how long it actually takes for the whole deployment. Sure, it takes 27 minutes to unfold it. But there is no timer or number for how long it takes to place it, build the rails, and all that. It's a cool product, but as others have said, make it more easily deployable and not requiring external power to deploy it. Another thing is that every other panel is angled away from the sun, so being able to angle them individually after deployment would be great. And a deployment and seating method that allows for deployment over hilly terrain.
Looks Great, BUT it's a 20' IM Container base.. that Still requires more than Just it... .Cause the Chain Rails and Drive Motors I didn't see where they were stored... PLUS the GCU sits clearly on the outside of the 20' Framing. NBD for many applications, BUT still lssues with shipping over Rail / Ship / Air.
Interesting looking but how do you hook up 140kw power source. The electrical panels don't look substantial enough to convert all the DC into 3 phase AC. What is the AC output voltage?
At 1:53 in the video, the big grey box that says Azzurro ZCS, is the three phase grid tie inverter necessary for the 140 kWp worth of solar panels. According to the ZCS Azzurro website, they have several inverter models available with a variety of power ratings and AC output voltage specifications, with chassis designs similar to the one shown in the video. The inverter model shown in the video is likely one of the 110 kVA or 137 kVA grid tie inverters with three phase output (probably at 288V phase to neutral, but depends on specific model used, as some of their models produce higher AC voltages).
Konzept finde ich nicht schlecht. Nur der Aufbau mit dem Schienensystem und dem Motor ist relativ aufwändig was die Mobilität etwas einschränkt. Für Volksfeste oder anderen kurzzeitigen Events wäre sowas toll wenn einfach Räder an den Panels wären und man sie dann mit einem Traktor, Gabelstapler, Radlader etc. Ausklappen bzw. Wieder einklappen könnte. Wäre vielleicht nicht so Effektiv von der Leistung aber schneller auf und abgebaut mit weniger Personal. Aber kommt halt auf den Verwendungszweck und das Kundenprofil an.
@@NoName-male1968 Ist klar das aus Sonne Strom gemacht werden soll mit dem Gerät. Ich wollte nur Wissen für welchen Anwendungszweck das gedacht ist. (Festival, Baustellen, Baugenehmigungsfreie Grossanlagen baue ...) Wenn ich so ein mobiles System baue muss ich ja auf irgendeinen Kundentyp zielen.
I guess this would be cool for like say ultra rich party's or like a fair ?? Not sure where else this would even remotely make sense with the amount of room u need and then the cost of cable to run it to inverters.
Buonasera, posso commentare il vostro fantastico container nel mio canale youtube per mostrarlo ai miei iscritti mettendo qualche spezzone del vostro video? Complimenti è una tecnologia stupenda
seems overly complex for what it is, why not just stack the solar panels in a container and also stack some mounting frames. Unload the solar panel mounting frames using a crane truck and drop, expand in place, then use the same truck to drop the panels on the frame. Fewer parts none of the complexity of rails, takes about the same time and uses 20-30% fewer parts. I have even seen the whole system in a single container, batteries, inverters the lot, the panels are lifted and installed using a winch built into the container.
Fully functional up to wind speeds of 74 kph without any further ballasting. With ballasting or rails bolted to the ground, even higher wind loads can be withstood.
One thing comes to mind, disaster response, when all the power lines have been taken out and maybe roads as well, this could be air lifted in to power hospital and emergency needs
@bobswrigles8636 not suitable, because you would need something that generates 50Hz, so a gas turbine or a normal diesel generator would be waaayyy better.
@@magnushartmann1819 Both generators need fuel, lots of it, and have you heard of an inverter, every solar household has one to convert solar to mains 50-60 Hz AC and so do all of the solar farms. They are now making solar panels that have an inverter on each panel, plug and play as it were.
It’s literally about a week less work than installing it all by hand. Its probably not cheap and not a solution for most applications, but still quicker than a normal plan
With lightwieght flexible panel this could have better potential, also all that steel framing ,,,they couldn't use aluminum ? Looks real heavy to me , and just by seeing they need machinery to put it together tells me it is all steel ...
For just $100k, 8,000 square feet of property, 6 workers, a crane, a front loader, and 2 days you too can generate 150.00 dollars of electricity every month
Es gibt sicherlich so einige. Aber Hauptkunde wird wohl das Militär sein. Die müssen im Kriegsfall Basen im Nirgendwo errichten, betreiben und kurzfristig verlegen. Aktuell werden Dieselgeneratoren verwendet die riesige Mengen an Diesel brauchen. Auch setzt sich die e-Mobilität auch im Militär durch. Von einem Elektro-Panzer habe ich bisher noch nichts gehört, aber Elektro-Kleinstfahrzeuge wie Motoräder und Buggies finden immer mehr Verwendung.
Cooool. Sieht so äjnlich aus als wenn sich das Paneel an der ISS ausfaltet. Also, irgendwo in der Landschaft aufstellen und dann die elektrische Energie per Funk übertragen. ;=))
Does labor really matter though when you're setting something up that's gonna stay there for a minimum of weeks, probably months, and potentially even years? It's not like we don't build houses because it's so labor intensive... Also, compared to building a permanent solar array, the labor is virtually nothing.
Little bit more R&D to minimise the initial rail setup would make this awesome
Chances of minimizing that are slim to none. The only things they can really improve is changing from nuts and bolts to some kind of quick connect system. There simply aren't a lot of ways to keep the compact setup while speeding up the rail setup.
@@timderks5960you can automate anything, but making it economical is the challenge
Perhaps a smaller second rail container that automatically unfolds first.
@@timderks5960 Just requires thinking outside the box: ruclips.net/video/0e5EKalDjDE/видео.html
@@ricepony33 that's the spirit, don't naysay problem solve!
Are the inverter and batteries included on this container? If it could deploy from a flatbed trailer without needing a crane or any other machines this would be very useful
Once the crane came out. I was, go back to the drawing board.
Gute Idee, gut umgesetzt! Genial wäre, wenn die Vorbereitungen bis zum Ausklappen noch automatisierter ablaufen würden. Sprich: Diese ganzen Metellteile am Anfang müssten vormontiert sein. Die Schienen sollten genauso gefaltet sein. Um die Bodenunbenheiten auszugleichen würden Hartholz‐ oder Hartkunststoff-Klötze untergelegt, während die Schienen einfach nur ausgeklappt würden. Es müssten 2 Personen reichen. Es sollte kein großer Kran mehr erforderlich sein, optimal wäre ein Gabelstapler. Der Container sollte auf einem LKW-Unterbau angeliefert werden, mittels 4 ausfahrbaren Füßen wird er angehoben, der LKW-Untersatz fährt weg, der Container wird auf den Boden abgesenkt. So wäre es perfekt!
Noch besser wäre es, wenn das Container quasi als Drohne mit Propeller fungieren und zum Einsatzort fliegen könnte. Dann könnte man z.B. bei schattenwerfenden Hindernissen den Container mehrmals am Tag je nach Sonnenstand "umfliegen" und so die maximale Ausbeute an Solarenergie haben.
Vllt. könnte man die Propeller so konstruieren, dass sie sich im Stillstand drehen und als Windkraftanlage fungieren können. So könnte man Solar- und Windenergie gleichzeitig nutzen.
@@mariop.8207bruder drohne? dafür brauchst min einen mittelgroßen heli
@@mariop.8207 Schätze, der Energiebedarf zum Schweben wäre um ein Vielfaches höher, als das was die bessere Ausrichtung bringen würde. 🤔
@@mariop.8207 ja stimmt! Einfach unterhalb von einem Chinook montieren.
Awesome new concept for a semi-mobile solar plant...
In fact, its need too much heavy machine, a container mover, a crane, a wheel-loader and you need 400v external electricity to deploy it, 4 mans, and a mega flat area.
Need to be more auto deploy, more easier, more placeable.
Maybe with a battery pack in the middle for auto deploy, less solar panels for not use a football stadium, and can be put directly with a truck container crane or back loader.
It's very good, but i don't understant ho is the customer for that type of mega structur. it's take a full parking aera for a festival. compare to a 3.5to trailer with a Caterpillar Gens.
this seems way over engineered. And you need a motorized trailer, a 120T crane, a front loader, a boom truck, a flat bed, and 5 workers? It seems like more work to layout half a kilometer of rail and assemble a motorized conveyor than to simply just unload the panels by hand. Why not make the container self deploy? Have it crawl along and unfold itself.
Quite simple actually. You would need to over-engineer the entire solar array structure in order to do so. Either you have a beefed up, over engineered rail system, or you need to have an over-engineered beefed up array structure to account for all the bumps and holes in the ground. You would need to have automatic leveling feet which are expensive and heavy for each ground point.
The entire reason you need to have a 120 ton crane is because the total weight of the structure is 30-40 ton. Even if the system got more mobile, you'd still need a crew of at least three to handle the weight responsibly. Additional the amount of power these systems generate is no joke and you need experienced electrical engineers to work and validate those systems.
To simply put, the engineering put forward in this system enabled them to put as many solar panels into the container. As a downside they require a larger (not by much) crew and an expensive crane. I do think they put some thought into the economics of this system.
Die Fahrstuhlmusik hat mich gekillt 😅
sorry, das ist sehr groovy Blasmusik, die einen unaufdringlich durchs Video geleitet und dabei unterbewusst die Wertigkeit des Ganzen unterstreicht.
Habs gleich Shazamt: Pro Brass
Other than that, the container pop out solar system was really cool.
this is so uplifting greetings from italy
Da fehlt noch nebendran der Akku Container 😉
Is this setup wind tested? How does snow load affect the rail support? Muddy terrain?
Great idea up to the point where up have to plug it in to deploy panels
It does indeed look like the panels aren't plugged in, but there's no reason why they couldn't be wired permanently, so I'm guessing this is an uncompleted version or something like that.
@timderks5960 how would you wire it in if solar is the source of power. Without other power source to deploy the panels its useless
@@NTM2009 Ah, you meant plug it in to the grid, I thought you meant plugging the individual panels together / connecting them to the inverter.
Your "issue" really is a non-issue though. Either temporarily run a generator, if you're in a really remote location, or just run an extension cord. These things aren't meant to be some miracle device that's an all in one setup, they're gonna be a part in setups that have a generator and battery. Newer generators come with battery banks these days, so the generator can run at optimal power when under low load and charge the batteries at the same time, saving fuel and reducing noise. Add this solar array to one of those generators, and the generator has to run even less, again reducing fuel consumption and noise.
People should really stop seeing issues and look for solutions instead. Pretty much everything can be solved. Instead of just saying "this sucks because of X", how about "X seems to be an issue, maybe that could be solved by Y".
@timderks5960 that is an all in one setup, it has the inverters on it already so no need for generator, or even batteries if your not storing power. Have done a couple systems where there is no power supply on site other then the panels and inverters sending power out, no incoming power and not going to run generator up to them every time they need opened and closed. Put a couple batteries in the system.and they couple work all in their own.
Also generators are better to run near max output then at low output. Running near max will make them most efficient and last longest
That motor is probably only a couple of horsepower tops. Looks like its just moving a section of chain belt that grabs a tab on the bottom of each panel segment and pushes it along and is only connected to at most 2 segments directly at a time. At around 3kw of solar per segment there's really no reason the workers couldnt unfold the first segment by hand and use that to power the motor to unfold the rest. even if your only geting 50% of the rated output of the solar thats still enough to run a 2hp motor and your available power will just go up as segments unfold. You could also probalby jump start the system off a couple of car batteries or any portable power station capable of a couple of KW of output for a minute or two After that like I said there's more than enough solar avalible if the sun is out after a few segments are exposed.
Great Idea , has lot of potential
A Strong Gust of wind ready to ruin your day with that set up :)
Nice work! Great for festival sites I think, with a big battery its a great addition to the hybrid generator solutions they use now
Design it so you can deploy without a crane
You need to unload it from a truck anyway. The crane is best to to it.
You could potentially use an excavator, a loader or a large forklift.
@@timoclemens5379 i worked on military deployable shelters that were larger than this that didn't require a crane to load out and transport and set up...the technology was invented in the 70s.
A roll off container
@@whyomgwhywtf Shelters don't weigh 40 tons, nor do they contain delicate components. Just because there is an example out there that can deploy without a crane, doesn't mean it can be applied to any situation. Military shelters are designed to be banged around, be abused by military personnel and are generally installed on a location which permits driving vehicles around the premises. This is a totally different application. Also I would like to know which military shelter can be (semi-)automatically deployed to a width of 50+ meters.
Most military units these days come in containers, which require some form of unloading, either by crane or forklift. And I would really like to see a container forklift working in a grass field, but that would be an impossibility as 4 wheels will dig into the ground once you load 40 tons onto the tines. Equally so for a roll off container. You still would need to drive that truck into the field, place the units and drive away without completely destroying the field. Good luck with that. You could of course install driving plates, for which you need another truck and a smaller crane to place those plates, but also kind of defeats the purpose.
@@stefanoromani1032 Have you ever seen a waste container installed on a grass field without any form of road? Probably not and I would find it highly doubtful you ever will.
First of all, the truck isn't meant to be run off road, nor will you ever escape a grass field with 40 tons pressing down on all wheels. And before you comment you can place temporary driving plates. Sure, you can, but you would also require a truck, a small crane and an additional crew to do so.
Awesome. I love the 1970’s music too.
Sehr gutes Konzept, für Katastrophenschutz und luftverladbare internationale Hilfe.
Bis das steht, läuft der Dieselgenerator schon 5 Stunden.
@@1xXNimrodXx1 Und hat 600 € Diesel verballert.
@@1xXNimrodXx1 steht in 20 min ;-)
@@jor7137 Da hab ich aber schon Strom. Und in Venezuela juckt es keinen wenn der Generatur läuft und säuft. Nichtmal in der EU. Da wurden auch Dieselgeneratoren aufgebaut um die E-Autos zu laden.
@@1xXNimrodXx1 blablabla du gehörst zu denen die Innovation immer schlecht reden. "wieso A machen - B macht das schon immer so" .. yikes
man that was some epic videography!
Your cameraman seems to be more interested in playing with the drone than capturing actual useful footage of the setup. I know more about the nearby buildings and fields than I do about your panel setup.
I'm also pretty sure it's not allowed to fly over that road and so close to industrial complexes and electrical power lines. But enough complaining I love the idea of the product.
At first this looked like such an awesome conceptualized product with tons of potential, however as the video progressed it made me reconsider. If it was mostly/completely automated where the panels would've expanded on their own much like how the solar panels on a satellite expands in orbit, it would've been fantastic. But with all of the work, labor, complexity and moving parts involved, it practically makes it very hard to argue deploying this design vs a more permanent/mobile solution.
5B Solar in Australia has a really simple system , they have refined the dollars to the sharp edge over the last 8 - 10 years , cyclone proof and a bank of panels deploys in 2 minutes
Too much work. Design it in a way so that you don‘t need a crane. Best would be to deplay it right away from a truck or have some wheels on it to do the fine positioning like with trailers.
You are missing the point. Try to transport and set up those panels one by one with two people. Let's see if you dont take a whole year. It has already been simplified. Also, do you understand the complexity that comes with mechanization? Would you rather hire a crane operator or hire a technician to operate the damn thing? What happens when the mechanism fails? What about space? Think about it.
I'm just gonna guess you're an American based on this reply. In the EU, simple flatbed trucks have cranes built right on them that humiliate most purpose-built American cranes. The one you can see from 3:02 onwards is just a small one. This solar unit could easily be moved and placed by one vehicle, one vehicle could transport 2 or 3 of these units, and place them all within a couple of hours. For 240 solar panels per unit, that's extremely quick setup.
@@BwanaQixa Did my previous comment contain "@BwanaQixa"? No, it didn't. I wasn't replying to you, if that still wasn't clear...
@timderks5960 If Americans are stupid to you, then you are 10 notches of stupid below them. What happens when you need to deploy ten or twenty modules, or even a thousand. Now, you also should have a thousand cranes lying in the field? Are you out of your European head? 🤣🤣🤣
@@timderks5960 Thanks for clarifying...
if it had the ability to unfold/fold into a protective structure, it would be interesting for use in areas that see potentially destructive weather, like the 2024/03/15 hail storm that struck a solar farm in texas.
OK as concept. Some more love/improvements needed IMHO.
Hints: make it flatbed trailer no-crane needed + single operator to deploy (many people to manually assemble rails and two "cable remote" operators to deploy is bad), maybe less panels but battery in the base of the structure (don't make it top heavy) + inverters => top disaster power supply recovery solution or "mobile / no-permit" solar farm solution.
Perfect for disaster responders
When the sun is shining :)
Yeah I think we need to stop saying solar or wind are for disaster response. During a disaster you need reliable power. You need diesel generators. Leave wind and solar to offset emissions and reduce fuel cost on a grid.
In disaster response should be quick. not time consuming.
sorry, but no. This requires a crane, forklift, does not hold a battery and requires a very large (flat!) footprint. This would have been way better. A modern household can run pretty well on 4 solar panels, or one of these large ones. Unloading the container could provide a few easy kits to install in a garden, that can be lifted by hand and installed with an easy battery + connector system (probably just a few power outlets) for the emergency need.
This is for something else.. Something very specific, and definetely not for disaster responders. the 30 mins to "unfold" is not the 30 mins installation. That took several hours and a lot of heavy machinery as you can see in the vid.
Connect the modules more flexible and add two wheels on the lower part of each module then it doesn’t need 5 hours and 25 minutes to finish, but only 25 minutes - even on uneven (😊) surface
Exactly
I am even struggling to understand the application, too much ideal environment and manhours, not to mention the long space in one stretch and angle of 50% panels is compromised
What kind of wind gusts can it withstand?
I don't understand what this is for? If you want temporary portable power wouldn't fossil fuels be more flexible and reliable solution? Is the intention for this to be like a quickly deployed permanent installation?
Would add Rubber wheels to the bottom of the Panels so u dont need the extra rails on the floor
Eine richtig gute Erfindung 10000 davon können nach Deutschland geliefert werden
amazing for disaster relief !!this would be gr8!!
That you have a timer for just a small part of the deployment seems to be grossly misrepresenting how long it actually takes for the whole deployment.
Sure, it takes 27 minutes to unfold it.
But there is no timer or number for how long it takes to place it, build the rails, and all that.
It's a cool product, but as others have said, make it more easily deployable and not requiring external power to deploy it.
Another thing is that every other panel is angled away from the sun, so being able to angle them individually after deployment would be great.
And a deployment and seating method that allows for deployment over hilly terrain.
This is awesome. If you can make a "fully autonomous" version of this, NASA would buy to send to the Moon or Mars.
This is dope i want one
Coole Sache, aber warum hat es keinen Link zu einer Webseite in der Beschreibung?
Looks Great, BUT it's a 20' IM Container base.. that Still requires more than Just it... .Cause the Chain Rails and Drive Motors I didn't see where they were stored... PLUS the GCU sits clearly on the outside of the 20' Framing. NBD for many applications, BUT still lssues with shipping over Rail / Ship / Air.
Wieviel Platz braucht es, was kostet der Spass, um wieviel teurer als eine Fix Installation ist es. Etwas mehr Info wär interessant.
I really love the part where you have to connect 3 phase grid power to make your green power work 😂
Si 27 minutos tarda en desplegar los paneles pero hasta llegar ahi seran varias horas ,si pero no lo mismo pero todo en uno ,eso es una media solución
Must be very handy during natural disasters. Must also be very expensive.
Please suggest size of panel and container
Interesting looking but how do you hook up 140kw power source. The electrical panels don't look substantial enough to convert all the DC into 3 phase AC. What is the AC output voltage?
At 1:53 in the video, the big grey box that says Azzurro ZCS, is the three phase grid tie inverter necessary for the 140 kWp worth of solar panels. According to the ZCS Azzurro website, they have several inverter models available with a variety of power ratings and AC output voltage specifications, with chassis designs similar to the one shown in the video. The inverter model shown in the video is likely one of the 110 kVA or 137 kVA grid tie inverters with three phase output (probably at 288V phase to neutral, but depends on specific model used, as some of their models produce higher AC voltages).
Transportable Stromversorgung von Konzerten? Es fehlt nur noch der Batteriespeicher.
Dachte auch an Festivals in der Pampa
Dann muss das Konzert aber im hellen stattfinden. Wenn es bewölkt ist, fällt das Konzert aus.
Glaube da muss es aber schon eher was kleineres sein.
Denke bei einem großen Artist wäre das zu wenig Saft.
Looks like you need some serious real estate, to deploy this bad boy.
large size but mobile, great
What is the capacity?
Get's night, airfreight it to another country where the sun is shining and harness even more energy. :-)
How long to build out the rails on both sides?
How about some details on capacities and capabilities.
"140 kWp mobile Solar Power"
Moin, gut durchdacht und gut gemacht. 👍 MfG
Very cool. I'd love to have one.
FYI the awesome music track is "Memories in Stardust" by Pro Brass
They only start the clock after all that assembly 😆🤣
Вот такой контейнер доставить сначала на Луну, потом и еще куда-то дальше. И можно людям собираться.
so and how many wattage was as a result ?
Moin
Was kostet ein kw erzeugter Strom bei solch einer Anlage?
Oder ist sie für Greenwasching konzipiert ?
Gruß Gregor
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How long does ot take to assemble the tracks
2 hrs and 10 men 2 forklifts a permit and huge bank account ...hope that helps
What is the price? (I know there will be differences in time & delivery location. But give us a ballpark number.)
Wow such a cool system
Good work ❤❤❤❤❤
cool, what is this used for? why its built like that
Protection from hail storm, tornado etc
How much for this package
Konzept finde ich nicht schlecht. Nur der Aufbau mit dem Schienensystem und dem Motor ist relativ aufwändig was die Mobilität etwas einschränkt. Für Volksfeste oder anderen kurzzeitigen Events wäre sowas toll wenn einfach Räder an den Panels wären und man sie dann mit einem Traktor, Gabelstapler, Radlader etc. Ausklappen bzw. Wieder einklappen könnte. Wäre vielleicht nicht so Effektiv von der Leistung aber schneller auf und abgebaut mit weniger Personal. Aber kommt halt auf den Verwendungszweck und das Kundenprofil an.
Also eher eine temporäre Sache? Vielleicht für Krisen- oder Kriegsgebiete?
Where can i buy this stuff?
Für welchen Anwendungszweck ist das Gedacht?
Um aus Wind Strom zu machen.
@@NoName-male1968 🤣 jo
@@steffen1182 😂 hast es wenigstens geschnallt.
@@NoName-male1968 Ist klar das aus Sonne Strom gemacht werden soll mit dem Gerät. Ich wollte nur Wissen für welchen Anwendungszweck das gedacht ist. (Festival, Baustellen, Baugenehmigungsfreie Grossanlagen baue ...)
Wenn ich so ein mobiles System baue muss ich ja auf irgendeinen Kundentyp zielen.
Wie lange dauert der Prozess von Ankunft bis zur ersten Einspeisung/Erzeugung ?
Zeit
Wow 😮
I guess this would be cool for like say ultra rich party's or like a fair ?? Not sure where else this would even remotely make sense with the amount of room u need and then the cost of cable to run it to inverters.
Buonasera, posso commentare il vostro fantastico container nel mio canale youtube per mostrarlo ai miei iscritti mettendo qualche spezzone del vostro video? Complimenti è una tecnologia stupenda
cool product!
Mit einer Möglichkeit zum Speichern der Energie könnte ich mir das für Festivals vorstellen
Worst music choice
Oh, I like this song
No
Хорошая мелодия!
Cause they freaky deeekie Dutch
🙄😳Wow😮Super👌👍
seems overly complex for what it is, why not just stack the solar panels in a container and also stack some mounting frames. Unload the solar panel mounting frames using a crane truck and drop, expand in place, then use the same truck to drop the panels on the frame. Fewer parts none of the complexity of rails, takes about the same time and uses 20-30% fewer parts. I have even seen the whole system in a single container, batteries, inverters the lot, the panels are lifted and installed using a winch built into the container.
How much a max wind speed in operation?
Fully functional up to wind speeds of 74 kph without any further ballasting.
With ballasting or rails bolted to the ground, even higher wind loads can be withstood.
What is the benefits of mobility with solar panels?
One thing comes to mind, disaster response, when all the power lines have been taken out and maybe roads as well, this could be air lifted in to power hospital and emergency needs
@bobswrigles8636 not suitable, because you would need something that generates 50Hz, so a gas turbine or a normal diesel generator would be waaayyy better.
@@magnushartmann1819 Both generators need fuel, lots of it, and have you heard of an inverter, every solar household has one to convert solar to mains 50-60 Hz AC and so do all of the solar farms.
They are now making solar panels that have an inverter on each panel, plug and play as it were.
That'll charge my mobile, tablet and laptop with some spare 🤣🤣
Geil 😃
Bravo!
Good work, can we buy?
The crane is harder to transport in mountain locations.
Es fehlt eine Zeitrafferaufnahme die den kompletten Aufbau zeigt.
Das hat einen Grund 😂
Esto es muy bueno
Lol.. sérieux.. besoin d'une grue de tout monter, d'un Manitou pour finir avec des panneaux mal orientés et provisoire ??
thats handy
Які характеристики такої мобільної станції?
❤️👍
Crazy
Too much work
It’s literally about a week less work than installing it all by hand. Its probably not cheap and not a solution for most applications, but still quicker than a normal plan
Once you need that crane it becames costly. It will take a while to earn the rent of that crane back.
Jep.. typical German over engeneering. Why doing it easy if there is a more complicated way
That depends on the deployment site and length. The concept is nice.
@@HansKeesomI’m sure it could have been put on a low loader and slid off. No need for crane.
rail kit fitting with adapter will be best.
With lightwieght flexible panel this could have better potential, also all that steel framing ,,,they couldn't use aluminum ? Looks real heavy to me , and just by seeing they need machinery to put it together tells me it is all steel ...
Holds it down so it can't blow away... or at least makes it more difficult to blow away.
Hmmm, there appears to be no ANGLE adjustment / Sun tracking... Sorry, game over!
Это на сколько кв будет
Rail system is not KISS.
Класс
For just $100k, 8,000 square feet of property, 6 workers, a crane, a front loader, and 2 days you too can generate 150.00 dollars of electricity every month
Und wer braucht jetzt sowas? Einsatzzweck?
Es gibt sicherlich so einige. Aber Hauptkunde wird wohl das Militär sein. Die müssen im Kriegsfall Basen im Nirgendwo errichten, betreiben und kurzfristig verlegen. Aktuell werden Dieselgeneratoren verwendet die riesige Mengen an Diesel brauchen. Auch setzt sich die e-Mobilität auch im Militär durch. Von einem Elektro-Panzer habe ich bisher noch nichts gehört, aber Elektro-Kleinstfahrzeuge wie Motoräder und Buggies finden immer mehr Verwendung.
Would be great in natural disasters where the power infrastructure was damaged so they could power hospitals and so on.
Cooool.
Sieht so äjnlich aus als wenn sich das Paneel an der ISS ausfaltet.
Also, irgendwo in der Landschaft aufstellen und dann die elektrische Energie per Funk übertragen. ;=))
location?
price?
Pretty labour intensive. Nice kit though.
Does labor really matter though when you're setting something up that's gonna stay there for a minimum of weeks, probably months, and potentially even years? It's not like we don't build houses because it's so labor intensive... Also, compared to building a permanent solar array, the labor is virtually nothing.
The need for a crane is a big issue