Georgia beat Tennessee, the #7 team in the nation, soundly and only moved up two spots...Alabama beat unranked Mercer and moved up 3 spots. How does that make any sense? The committee is insane!
You can’t put Georgia ahead of Alabama b/c they beat them earlier this year. Bama only moved up b/c of what other teams did in the top 12. Mercer has nothing to do with it. In saying that, I do feel Georgia, Bama and Tennessee should be higher in the rankings.
@@fishingwithshawno That's what I'm saying. It makes no sense to move Bama up 3 spots and not Georgia and Ole Miss...All three should be above Miami. Why did Bama deserve to move past Miami if Georgia and Ole Miss didn't? Bama wasn't ahead of them last week...
@@blakehartsfield8423 but you got stomped by Georgia who lost to Alabama. It's also when you lost, you have a 0 game win streak currently, Alabama hasn't lost in a month.
@@fishingwithshawnoyou can 100% put UGA over Bama, especially if they’re being consistent. UGA has better wins and losses than Bama. Plus they beat the team that gave Bama its second loss. Last year OU beat Texas and Texas stayed in the top 10.
Not for the SEC. They were under the impression, after THEY started all this championship stuff, they would take at least 10 spots. They had no idea that when the field was level, they'd come in scratching for 3 or 4.
I'm sure 6-6 Tennessee Tech, 2-8 University of Massachusetts, 4-6 Auburn, 4-7 Kentucky, and 2-8 MSU really appreciate your compliment. Yes, Ridiculously tough indeed. Stop listening to ESPN. They're full of sh*t.
Both Georgia AND Tennessee got screwed! SEC ranking should be as follows: Georgia, Tennessee, Bama, Ole Miss, then Texas. Georgia has 2 “good losses,” and 2 (possibly 3 if you include Clemson) “good wins.” With ZERO “bad losses.” Both Tennessee and Bama have 1 “bad loss,” 1 “good loss” and 1 “good win.” With the Head-to-head tiebreaker going to Tennessee. Ole Miss has 1 “good win,” and TWO “bad losses.” Zero “good losses.” Texas has 1 “good loss,” and ZERO “good wins.” The CFP Committee is an utter JOKE!! 🙄
Cry all you want. Ole Miss dominated Georgia and deserves to be in over them AND Tennessee. Tennessee will lose to Vandy anyway and none of this will matter.
@@thomasclark6906 Forreal, ole miss has lost 2 games by a total of 6 points, ole miss is 2 4&15+ stops away from being #1 in the country. That Georgia beat down was not a fluke, Ole Miss has the best dline in the country and if they play how they did against Georgia they can beat anyone.
@@justinlafever5653 my reasoning exactly. 💯 Well maybe except for Ole Miss. That beat down of GA stands alone and has to give them a bump up. Everything else 💯.
Most puzzling thing is these rankings is 2-loss Tulane ranked 20. Like what? Their best win is against who, Navy? And they got trounced by an SEC bottom feeder in Oklahoma.
Finebaum complaining about Indiana, Miami and Penn State is hilarious. You can’t talk about them but conveniently leave out Texas. If it’s about who you played, Texas best win has come against a 6-4 Vandy team or 5-5 Michigan team. His SEC bias is sickening at times
@@GabrielMartinez-sd8pcwhich 3 currently ranked teams have they beaten, ? Not saying I don't think Texas us better, but beating someone that was overrated doesn't mean much to me
@@ryanblosser6081 I explain this in my comment. Using the current top 25 is not a good metric because if appropriately applied, then no one would be ranked.
He's an entertainer. Can't take him too seriously, a lot of his takes are about getting reactions, imo. Your point is valid tho. To me, Texas and Penn St have almost the same resume. Neither has beaten a top 25 team (technically i guess Illinois snuck in), both lost at home to a "top" team.....but they both do have two or three wins against teams in that 25-40 ranking range. That's what separates both of them (and Miami) from Indiana, who really doesn't.
I gotta give ND credit as an independent because not only do they not play FCS schools at all but they actually schedule blue bloods.. they actually play schedules where they can’t sleepwalk thru a game
Weak argument.. ND has done something 99% of programs would do if they could. They would all be independent if they actually could. How many programs could still be relevant without conference money?
Kirby is right. For years it was strength of schedule and that one more "data point" to place you over others. Now it appears to be just wins and losses regardless of schedule and competition. What is the criteria? No one knows. Why should Georgia schedule Clemson (or Ga Tech for that matter)? Take a look at Indiana's OOC schedule? Are they even trying? What about Miami? Ohio State? Texas? Georgia has the best wins cumulatively (Clemson, Texas, Tennessee) and the best losses (Ole Miss, Bama). They should be the highest ranked 2 loss team and possibly over some one loss teams (Miami, Indiana). Georgia has played 3 top ten teams. Only Ohio State will have done that after playing Indiana. Every other team in the top ten rankings has only played one. Notre Dame and Miami none. Georgia has played 5 teams in the top 25. Ohio State and Oregon have played 3. Everyone else two or less. Only Georgia, Ohio State (assuming they beat Indiana) and Oregon will have 3 top 25 wins (CFP Rankings). Georgia has two losses to two top ten teams. No other two loss team can say that. In fact, Bama, Ole Miss, Miami, and Notre Dame all have unranked losses, Ole Miss has two. Strength of schedule clearly doesn't matter.
@@schoolstuff5235 okay..but they've run the table versus cupcakes and not top teams, right? It tells you how low the ceiling was for the Hoosiers. But that shouldn't be used as a club to hit over the SEC's heads either. Us SEC fans are eyeing these rankings suspiciously now. I'm willing to bet if Indiana doesn't get blown out by Ohio State they won't move down more than two spots.
Kinda sux considering ga went undefeated regular season and only lose 1 sec game but miss out on playoff for..sos..but with a tough schedule this year, ga is getting screw cause of record, sos be dam. 😮😮
Only wins and losses. Who knew that the actual record and play on the field would actually matter again. Wow. Why even play the games?... Just ask the ESPN talking heads in spring practice and give the trophy to their golden SEC child.
We’ve seen this play out NUMEROUS times over the last 20-25 years now. Non-SEC conferences want in the BCS championship/playoff etc and then they meet their end swiftly courtesy of a SEC school. It’s because there is truth to strength of schedule/record as a good litmus test of how an Indiana vs. Georgia type situation would yield. The outlier is a random game like Boise State vs. Oklahoma where Boise beat them……with a trick play.
That's correct, but the only reason Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, and Indiana are up there is because those guys play nobody. Georgia scheduled Clemson outside of their conference and stomped them by 31 points. Who has Indiana played that's any good? Who has Penn State beaten thats any good? Meanwhile Georgia beat Clemson who's ranked, Tennessee who's ranked, Texas who's 3rd overall at their place. Yes I get they've lost, but they lost with 2 minutes left in the game on the road at Alabama at night. They also lost to Ole Miss who's defense has 6 sacks more than 2nd in sacks and 11 more than 3rd place. They also have 16 tackles for loss more than 2nd place and UGA went and played there. Meanwhile ohio state had beaten what good team? Who has Penn State or Indiana beaten? The Big 10 are like the Cowboys. You'll make it to the playoffs and lose unless you're a team that's been caught cheating twice in a year but still allowed to play
I don’t understand the reasoning for the hate on Ohio State, they play Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana all who are in the top 5 currently. You keep swapping between ranked and good teams when talking about wins. Ohio State lost by 1 point in a road game against the current #1 team in the country. They also beat a top 5 team in Penn State on the road. Ok, you can argue that those teams haven’t played/beaten anyone good but what about Texas and Clemson? They haven’t won against any currently ranked opponents but let’s say that those are great wins for Georgia because they’re ranked. It’s ludicrous. The SEC is performing like how the PAC12 used to be but you didn’t see the PAC12 with multiple ranked 2 loss teams like the SEC does. You can cherry pick anything to make one team look better than the other. Ohio State deserves to be ahead of Georgia and all the other SEC teams at the moment. Say what you about those other teams, I couldn’t care less. If you’re in the SEC don’t lose to 3-4-5 or however many loss teams in the regular season multiple times. Maybe that will help those teams with getting in the playoffs.
Guys like Finebaum aren't happy unless the SEC has every spot in the playoff. Either the games played matter, or they don't. I mean, clearly the games played didn't matter last year because god forbid Alabama be left out of the "playoff", but with 12 teams, your record has to matter.
Well they made the right decision bc if Michigan was better than uga then realistically they would’ve beat fsu by 70. They made the right choice putting bama in
@@drewgriffin5305 i mean, they really didn't make the right choice. it's pretty clear we haven't had a real playoff, it's just been exhibitions for TV ratings
No one actually thinks IU, PSU, and Miami are better than UGA but we can't just rank based on a team's potential. If that were the case then these 12 regular season games are pointless and we should just begin the season with the playoff based on neutral field favorability. The fact is UGA at their best will beat anyone they play but they have only looked their best for a small portion of this entire season. IU, PSU, and Miami have won football games more consistently and are ranked appropriately because of it. We should favor production over potential. But no one denies UGA CAN BE the best team at their best. They will still make the playoff and have their chance anyways!
I will explain the difference in schedules for the people that can’t seem to understand. Steph Curry loses to LeBron , beats kyrie , loses to Kevin Durant, beats klay thompson. Joe from Ohio beats Carl from New Mexico, beats Alex from California, beats Tom from Wyoming. Are we gonna say Joe is better than Steph curry because he has a better record
@@HeartlessWon506 Longhorns are for real. In 24 hours, we are going to find out a lot of things. Right now it's 12:47pm EST on FRIDAY, at this time tomorrow (Saturday, November 23rd @ 12:47pm) OSU is either going to already have an insurmountable lead on Indiana and the script will be written for the playoffs, or Indiana will still be within 7 to 14 points and have a chance or with that deficit the Buckeyes will keep piling on the lopsided talent and just strip Indiana of their dignity.... or the other option is Indiana is within 3 to 7 points and looking like they can actually move the ball on the road in an impossible environment to be successful in, which will open eyes. My guess is that it will be over for Indiana by 12:50pm all but the fat-lady singing and so College Football will have the SEC back in their rightful place in the Playoffs and OSU & Oregon will play for the BIG TEN Trophy and will get seeded appropriately and water will then find its level and all of this nonsense talk from Finebaum and others will get torched in the fireplace. THANKS TO GOD!!!!
You are the kind of person the NCAA is after, someone that doesn't like college football but loves a reality shows. You are the major demographic they are chasing.
Penn St lost a close game to the team Paul has called the best in college football (OSU). Wouldn't that suggest they should do as well or better vs the others? Why argue where they are ranked. Georgia is a great team but losing by 18 to Ole Miss is not going to help.
The committee needs to be honest with themselves and tell teams like Indiana and penn state, SORRY, you need to come back with a better strength of schedule next year. The way the ranking are playing out right now is plain dumb. I see this format changing next year.
At the end of last season, Indiana's schedule included both participants in the national title game, Ohio State, and a Nebraska team with a highly rated recruiting class coming in. It looked like a pretty strong schedule. They can't help it if after coaching changes those two teams fell back so far. They've taken care of business by blowing out every team except a highly talented if sometimes underachieving Michigan team. You can't avoid very different looking resumes so you just have to try to consider all the factors. Georgia has a beef--more with Penn State, Miami, and Ole Miss being ahead of them than they do Indiana. Even with Texas--who by the way also hasn't beaten anybody, but lost to the best team on their schedule, Georgia.
@ I agree that it’s nobody’s fault, but it’s dumb to try and put in an undefeated because they deserve it only to get blown out by remotely worthy competition. Of course Indiana can prove everyone wrong still but I don’t get why already proven good teams will have to sit out
Penn State won’t and shouldn’t be left out out of a 12 team playoff with 1 loss to a team might eventually win the Championship. maybe ranked like #8 to host a playoff game or even fall to #9 and have to go on the road but 11-1 Penn State should not miss a 12 team playoff, they’re consistently a top 10-15 team so this should be expected. i think IU should be like the #10 seed if they lose
this is such a dumb argument. It’s not their fault that they’re opponents aren’t that good. Fact of the matter is that they beat them and beat them easily so you can’t dock them for that
Of course it matters, but when the teams don't remotely play the same schedules it's insane to base almost everything off records. Does anyone really believe Penn State would have the same record if they had to play Texas, Bama, Ole Miss on the road and Tenn at home? That's the insane part of this. There is literally no incentive to schedule tough games name because the committee is saying they will hold it against you if you lose vs. a team like Penn State who lost to the only decent team they played (...again!) I despise Clemson...but they are firmly in the playoff if they just scheduled a cupcake instead of UGA to start the year. I'm ticked mainly because the committee is actually making it much less likely we get great out of conference games to start the year...because you'd have to do be nuts to do it w/ these rankings.
@@RogerThat902oh and TX comes into your vaunted conference and looses 1 game their first year. Let's see before that MO won the east twice. Also TAM has represented fairly well the entire time. Except TX, Never were they so called world beaters in cfb.
I understand the point they’re making of head-to-head factoring into the rankings. So, how is Bama ahead of Tenn if they both have the same record, but Tenn beat Bama?
The SEC is gauntlet for a reason. Top to bottom it is the toughest conference in the country. In 3 years the B1G 10 and SEC will have their own league. Everyone else is out of luck. They might take 10 other schools tops from all the other conference combined and those schools will have money
If Georgia is so great they would've beat Alabama and Ole Miss... too bad they'll have a road playoff game, If they are good they'll still find themselves in Atlanta in January
I could care less about schedule you have to win your games. Your record should rank you. Only time schedules should matter is if you have teams with the same record and the didn't loose the prior week.
HOW is a 2 LOSS Big Ten Team with 2 Top 5 losses not as good as an SEC Team with 2 Top 5 Losses or 1 UNRANKED loss. SEC Bias all over the place in this video
The whole body of work has to matter..Bama has more too 25 wins than anybody..uga has 2 but both schools have played top 10 toughest schedules..who has ohst Penn st Indiana played?
@paulmcjunkin7650 First of all stop lying. Georgia has 3 top 20 wins, not 2, same as Alabama. And Alabama does NOT have a top 10 toughest schedule, Georgia does.
@@paulmcjunkin7650 Actually UGA has more top 15 wins than anybody. And those all stayed in the top 25 not fell out... and GA has a harder schedule especially since it played 4 of it's 5 ranked teams on the road.
I say boycott the CFP if they put these weak teams in the playoff. The criteria to get into the playoff cannot be solely based on won/loss record without taking a look at the current strength of schedule. Quality wins vs. quality losses should also be factored into the decisions. There is a way to factor all of those criteria into an analytic model. I’m sure they can figure it out.
Exactly. My kids peewee team is undefeated against other 8 year olds. They should be above Georgia. Just because GA plays much harder opponents; that shouldn't matter 1 bit.
Does strength of tecord, strength of schedule become a team's defense attorney when the team theyre trying to get in the playoffs gets their azz kicked twice,i,e.. Georgia & Alabama. Losing gets rewarded, winning gets punished according to the name on the helmet
@@jerodmayoINC you can’t compare last year to this year when they lose 20 something players and 10 of them make the nfl. lol we had the best defense in the nation last year.
@snookmania1062 not comparing the teams, it’s just funny lol. Y’all were not a top 4 team without Travis, barely beat a 5-7 Florida team starting a freshman and then was reduced to the wildcat against Louisville, they were not better than Bama who beat Georgia, let it go. We’ve seen this year how good Brock Glenn is
If you assume all SEC teams are better than other conferences, then all SEC teams will by definition have a stronger schedule than all other teams, and they should all be in the playoffs.
How about Alabama not lose to the perennial powerhouse that is VANDERBILT! LOL Finebaum fights for the SEC, and good for him, usually he has an argument but not this year.
I don’t care if you are better than teams in front of you. If you lose 3 games, you don’t deserve a shot at the title. If georgia doesn’t lose another they’ll be in
Well...Penn State gets a first round game in happy valley. Good luck to any team having to go in there lol. I'm taking Penn State over any team in the first round
@@TheMCJ2011 " struggling" Ohio State???? They just lost their starting center, is that what you mean? Or do you make "struggling" like the 2 and 3 losses that the SEC went thru this season?? And .....please....knock it off with the schedules. The reporters from ESPN sets up the SEC with their Top 25 every year. This year its backfiring and their fans are losing it. Just accept reality this year and go back to your corner.
No it means those 6 new committee members aren’t SEC Homers. I love it!!!! Get these SEC Alumni that vote for 2 SEC teams in a 4 team playoffs every year OUT OF HERE
@ doesn’t matter idiot. If I put two big ten teams in theirs that same outcome of that happening because of the odds of winning 1 game. Tf that’s common sense. You didn’t win last year now did you?
Don't matter what yall big 10 homers try sec will still win the championship most years. Sure yall will have a one off here and there. But consistently the sec will continue to dominate college football, period!!!!
@@talkingrock7011 the hubris that the worst team in the SEC could win the big 12, acc, or big 10 gets annoying. isn't that what you imply when you say "they" are winners instead of naming an actual team or teams? the fact the sec only play 8 conference games, and schedules fcs schools in november, but still says with a straight face that it makes no difference because muh sec schedule is annoying. if you start with 12 teams ranked in the top 25 and all beat each other, could someone determine that you aren't that good? instead, sec homer maintains that the reason they all beat each other is because they ARE so good. but let a 2-loss team from another conference make that argument and sec homer says "you should have won your games". 7 sec teams have lost OOC games this year, that is ignored. the top rated team in the sec is a big 12 team is ignored. i don't think reasonable or knowledgeable fans object to an opinion that generally the sec is the best conference overall, its the absurd level to which sec homer takes it. expecting 5 or 6 of 12 teams in a 12-team bracket to come from one conference is horseshit, yet we hear these same tired arguments every year when sec man feel like he doesn't get his pat on the head and milk bone.
@@zeller3228 most SEC fans aren't the above. Every conference has those fans. To be fair though, you are ignoring the top SEC teams that have been scheduling top ranked team matchups instead of cupcakes. But to say one more conference game makes that big of a difference, or that those conferences that do don't A) have some absurdly weak teams that are on the same level as some of the better FCS schools and B) some of those teams still schedule FCS schools, is a little disingenuous. The top rated SEC team being a Big 12 team is disingenuous as well. They played an SEC schedule. A weaker one, but they are in no way a Big 12 team. And they got crushed at home by the one ranked conference team they played... But yeah, most SEC fans roll their eyes when someone says there should be 6 SEC teams in the playoff or that the worst SEC team would handily win other conferences. As a lifelong SEC I'll say this: there is no absolute Elite team in the conference this year. I'd argue that the top end is still better than anybody *when they play to their ability, but that's why we have the playoffs.... But I've never seen this level of parity in the middle. There are 8 SEC schools that can legit compete with anybody in the country this year. That combination has opened the door for other fan bases to criticize the SEC. And maybe that's fair. But it's funny to me that Big 12 fans have been saying that their conference is the best top to bottom, and now when the SEC has the most parity we've seen that means it's down? I don't get the logic...
It doesn't take away from the fact that UGA is being robbed of a home playoff game which its fans very much would love to see. Especially after having the hardest schedule in the nation facing 3 top 10 opponents on the road and Clemson in a neutral. Meanwhile, Indiana strength of schedule is 106th and is in prime position to host a home playoff game. Penn States SOS is also not great. Same with Notre Dame. All will be hosting playoff games if things stay the same.
@@reyb1649 Any ‘ranked’ matchup from any team before the CFP rankings are out is nonsense. It’s media driven. There’s no way to know how good any team will be until they play. Personally, I’d prefer no rankings and forced matchups between P4 conferences. No more FCS or lower-level in-state competition. Doing this removes the fluff from schedules and allows for a real discussion. As it sits, right now, there’s only suggestive reasoning and conference bias.
The sec wins the national championship so much more than All the other conferences combined. They have the most money, best athletes, hardest schedules. And they send the most payers to the NFL. There is no sec bias its just logic
It looks like for future scheduling, SEC teams should schedule the weakest teams in the conference because these rankings prove that the number of wins is more important that quality wins and SoS.
Honestly, just remove the SEC and make the same case. If Clemson scheduled a cupcake instead of UGA they are firmly in the playoff. If anyone says "But Clemson sucks". That's exactly the point. Had they not challenged themselves they'd be a 1 loss team w/ a better resume than some schools the committee seems to love because they have 1 loss. If you want more great games this committee is actually hurting that by showing everyone they don't factor in strength of schedule. Why would anyone willingly risk a loss they don't have to?
@@RogerThat902 i agree. teams should be rewarded by tough OOC games. not sure how to do it mathematically. my biggest beef with the committee is that we can all see they just use switching buzzwords to stack ranks the way they want. if they would just pre-publish the criteria, even if you disagree, there would be little argument. of course, then why would you need a fucking committee? government in any form, will figure out a way to justify their existence.
Texas fan here, no one has a right to be mad!!!, of the top 15 all you have to do is handle your business and you have a shot at playing in the Natty (realistically only about 6 teams have a shot) even if Texas loses and is the 13th team so be it. That is the great thing about the playoffs.
Paul Finebaum makes no sense. If you stack a confrence with most of the best teams this is what happens. They get all of the best teams, make the most money, prime TV slots and God forbid if they are not ranked ahead of everyone else. They should have their own playoffs.
@@drewgriffin5305it’s not even the whole SEC who has been dominate it’s Alabama, Georgia for 2 years, Florida in like 08 and Auburn for 1 year the rest of the teams have been irrelevant
Yup. ND fan who admits we profit from being ND and i love watching SEC football but this year the sec is not as powerul as it used to be, even w the addition of tex and ok
All you have to do is go back 20 years see how many teams from the SECHas been National Champs. And if they did not win it they played for it.The SEC record speak for itself.
@Fafopod333 Well, the rankings are not reflecting that for this season. I would say right now the Big Ten is the best. As four out of five is B10 teams.
Paul all 14 SEC teams can't get into a 12 team playoff but somewhat agree and the one getting screwed here is Tennessee as they beat Alabama. Alabama beating Georgia is their saving grace but Georgia's win over Texas was more impressive and shouldn't be barely hanging on. I wish they treated Wisconsin in 2017 & 2018 the way they treating Indiana now!
These espn analysts think like Stone Age people,they’re missing the old way,everything changes ,life,universe,civilization and sports but these people refuse to understand changes
Chris Mad Dog Russo is the perfect example of this; he will not let Larry Bird & Bob Cousey go, that style of play & era is over appreciate change and what these athletes are doing.
They appear to be going by record mostly. They aren't paying attention to much else, and it may cost them if these highly ranked teams without a quality win lose a game. Where do they put them then?
The SEC is not that much better than the Big Ten. The SEC is very top heavy. They just like the Big Ten have three teams every year above the rest of the country. Outside of that, it’s mediocre teams everywhere!
tosu is 2-15 all-time against the SEC in bowl games. Our "mediocre" team South Carolina has played the 2nd toughest schedule in the country, plays ranked teams nearly every weekend and would easily be undefeated with the 103rd ranked schedule. Teams like indiana would be lucky to cross the 50 against their nationally ranked defense.
I am really confused with Finebaum anger. If Georgia wins their next two games (close or blow outs), they would be in the playoffs. Finebaum being mad because Georgia might have to play Indiana or Penn State on the road does not make sense to me. Georgia should be good enough to beat this teams. The SEC teams that should be stressing are Tennesse and Ole Miss. Because we know that if Alabama, Texas, Tennesse, Ole Miss and Georgia all have two losses at the end of the season with 4 spots for the SEC, I gauarantee you Georgia, Texas and Alabama would be in the playoffs.
@@reyb1649 Right it not hard. The point many are making, including no fans of the SEC, it's weird that the committee doesn't seem to place any real value on UGA playing a very very difficult schedule. A schedule it's safe to assume many of the teams above them would likely have an even worse record. Penn State is the perfect example. They get spanked yearly by the few teams they play w/ a pulse. We are supposed to believe they are better than UGA because they got spanked by the only team they played w/ a pulse...again? It's just so silly
You don’t want that lol everyone would watch that and no one would care anything about the rest of the country. Your teams would be begging to be a sec team.
@ In case you haven’t notice, the people in the SEC think they are the only ones that play football anyway. I doubt the rest of us would be begging to join the SEC.
Paul has his tongue so far up Georgia - despite their two losses. Heather - remember to count the quality losses as well as wins. Paul: Take a tablet - the CFP rankings are a moving picture. If Texas loses to A&M and the Bulldogs sweep the season, Paul will be fine with the CFP system. He’ll roll over like a puppy with a Milkbone®️
We are Living In a World where we want to Reward Others for what they did in the past, and the ones that are doing Now Are not being rewarded, and Paul Finebbaum is a big part of that reason, cause Miami loss One Game, and has been dominating, and Georgia got 2 losses and we want them to be ranked higher all cause it’s Georgia Bulldogs, We are Joking Now, Figuring ways to keep the little guy down ESPN Great Job, Paul Finebbaum great job.
Miami had been playing w/ fire since conference play started.. they were bound to lose giving up nearly 40pts a game, they just so happen to have the best QB in the country to cover up for that terrible defense
Imagine quoting strength of record for all teams but then only using strength of schedule for Indiana. Bc you’d find that Indiana is still 6th in your cherry picked metric. And that’s not even counting the fact that they’ve looked dominant all hesr
In 1aa d2and 3 if you lose no matter to who it effects your seed… finebaum is only for Colorado and sec teams now … this is how playofff formats works sir….
That's not a fair comparison at all. In FCS and D2-3 (1AA hasn't existed for almost 20 years smh) your overall record does not matter as much because each conference sends their best. It's not structured the same at all. So they literal have different formats. Also, you know that Paul Finebaum IS an SEC pundit, right? He actively stumps for the SEC and is very open about it...
Or and just a thought, having wins against Texas and Tennessee is more impressive than anything Indiana has done. If losses are that big of an issue, why is Penn State above Army? Army are undefeated and strength of schedule doesn't matter, right?
Notre Dame makes their own schedule because they are not in a conference. They have a ton of home games against deficient teams and even on neutral fields against service academies. Nobody complains about that.
except its used in march madness and thats why they have the most competitive playoff setup out of any sport. its also why we don't wanna see tcu get smacked by georgia 65-7 like 2 years ago or see fsu get smacked last year. gtfo
They aren't looking at the strength of record very much and factoring it into their decision making. Because if they did Georgia would be higher ranked. The Gamecocks would/should also be ranked higher than 18. They have 4 top 25 wins and lost to two more ranked teams by 5 points and we all know they got robbed by the refs in that LSU game. I'm not saying they should be in the top 12 but they should be close. My suspicion is there are discussions on the committee to limit the amount of teams from a particular conference and make it more equitable to the other divisions. If this is the future and what to expect from the committee then the SEC has a big problem on their hands.
Georgia beat Tennessee, the #7 team in the nation, soundly and only moved up two spots...Alabama beat unranked Mercer and moved up 3 spots. How does that make any sense? The committee is insane!
You can’t put Georgia ahead of Alabama b/c they beat them earlier this year. Bama only moved up b/c of what other teams did in the top 12. Mercer has nothing to do with it. In saying that, I do feel Georgia, Bama and Tennessee should be higher in the rankings.
@@fishingwithshawno That's what I'm saying. It makes no sense to move Bama up 3 spots and not Georgia and Ole Miss...All three should be above Miami. Why did Bama deserve to move past Miami if Georgia and Ole Miss didn't? Bama wasn't ahead of them last week...
Well with that thinking, how is Alabama above Tennessee? We beat Alabama and we both have 2 losses. And we can still
Beat Vandy which also beat them?
@@blakehartsfield8423 but you got stomped by Georgia who lost to Alabama. It's also when you lost, you have a 0 game win streak currently, Alabama hasn't lost in a month.
@@fishingwithshawnoyou can 100% put UGA over Bama, especially if they’re being consistent. UGA has better wins and losses than Bama. Plus they beat the team that gave Bama its second loss. Last year OU beat Texas and Texas stayed in the top 10.
Miami has not played ONE ranked opponent all year. NOT ONE. What a joke.
And they have worse strength of record, strength of schedule, and game control metrics than BYU. This committee is a clown show.
What about Texas?? 😅
@@robertshodeen4501they played Georgia
@@robertshodeen4501haven't seen anything that says Texas is the top five team
ACC SUCKS
Silly me. I thought the 4-team CFP (and then the 12-team CFP) was going to settle these petty arguments. 😂😂😂
Right? I thought the same thing. So I'm really hoping that someone like SMU wins out and gets in and then Miami is on the outside looking in.
It does. They're making something out of nothing.
That was before SEC fans found out the first 4 spots weren’t automatically reserved for SEC teams
Not for the SEC. They were under the impression, after THEY started all this championship stuff, they would take at least 10 spots. They had no idea that when the field was level, they'd come in scratching for 3 or 4.
@@antoniomatthews4459Exactly, espn has a big contract with the sec. Finebaum is a clown.
Not a Georgia fan whatsoever but those guys played a ridiculously tough schedule.
I'm sure 6-6 Tennessee Tech, 2-8 University of Massachusetts, 4-6 Auburn, 4-7 Kentucky, and 2-8 MSU really appreciate your compliment. Yes, Ridiculously tough indeed. Stop listening to ESPN. They're full of sh*t.
Except for the 40 combined losses by 6 of Geogia's opponents. Yeah. Tough.🤣
Georgia played the number one sos in all of cfb. Either you’re a really bad troll, or you’re just a idiot.
not really Ala win isn't a good one. they lost to Okl 24-3!!! they have 3 losses the real only good win is vs Tenn
If finebaum had his way there would be 12 sec teams in the playoffs
Because any 12 sec teams could beat the whole nation
@@JamesHelton-d2lnah 😂 sec overrated lsu couldn't even beat USC
@@JamesHelton-d2l nope
Finebaum just flat out needs his teeth knocked out.... PERIOD!!!!!!
Lol @@JamesHelton-d2l
Both Georgia AND Tennessee got screwed!
SEC ranking should be as follows: Georgia, Tennessee, Bama, Ole Miss, then Texas.
Georgia has 2 “good losses,” and 2 (possibly 3 if you include Clemson) “good wins.” With ZERO “bad losses.”
Both Tennessee and Bama have 1 “bad loss,” 1 “good loss” and 1 “good win.” With the Head-to-head tiebreaker going to Tennessee.
Ole Miss has 1 “good win,” and TWO “bad losses.” Zero “good losses.”
Texas has 1 “good loss,” and ZERO “good wins.”
The CFP Committee is an utter JOKE!! 🙄
It doesn’t matter UGA has umass and Georgia tech left win and they are in the playoffs
Ol miss has Florida and miss state win and in
Cry all you want. Ole Miss dominated Georgia and deserves to be in over them AND Tennessee. Tennessee will lose to Vandy anyway and none of this will matter.
@@thomasclark6906 Forreal, ole miss has lost 2 games by a total of 6 points, ole miss is 2 4&15+ stops away from being #1 in the country. That Georgia beat down was not a fluke, Ole Miss has the best dline in the country and if they play how they did against Georgia they can beat anyone.
SEC should be Ole Miss, Bama, GA, TN, then TX.
@@justinlafever5653 my reasoning exactly. 💯 Well maybe except for Ole Miss. That beat down of GA stands alone and has to give them a bump up. Everything else 💯.
Most puzzling thing is these rankings is 2-loss Tulane ranked 20. Like what? Their best win is against who, Navy? And they got trounced by an SEC bottom feeder in Oklahoma.
Not as bad as having five big ten teams in the top 7 when we all know maybe two are legit
@@KirbySmartsFakePuntPenn State has as much an argument as Texas. Bama shouldn’t have lost to Vanderbilt and they would be at #2 or #3
Tulane doesn't deserve a Top 20 spot. But they did score as many touchdowns against Oklahoma as Bama did points against them.
As a Notre Dame fan I would love to see ND vs. Georgia.
No you wouldn't
Finebaum complaining about Indiana, Miami and Penn State is hilarious. You can’t talk about them but conveniently leave out Texas. If it’s about who you played, Texas best win has come against a 6-4 Vandy team or 5-5 Michigan team. His SEC bias is sickening at times
he literally started off by saying texas hasn't played anyone ranked expect for Georgia and lost
Texas has beaten 3 ranked opponents. Indiana, Miami, and Penn State have not. That's the difference.
@@GabrielMartinez-sd8pcwhich 3 currently ranked teams have they beaten,
?
Not saying I don't think Texas us better, but beating someone that was overrated doesn't mean much to me
@@ryanblosser6081 I explain this in my comment. Using the current top 25 is not a good metric because if appropriately applied, then no one would be ranked.
He's an entertainer. Can't take him too seriously, a lot of his takes are about getting reactions, imo.
Your point is valid tho. To me, Texas and Penn St have almost the same resume. Neither has beaten a top 25 team (technically i guess Illinois snuck in), both lost at home to a "top" team.....but they both do have two or three wins against teams in that 25-40 ranking range. That's what separates both of them (and Miami) from Indiana, who really doesn't.
It's called ratings. The committee is setting up the ESPN docket for TV ratings for the end of the season.
@@williamallen63 L rage bait
You think the committee is sucking off Indiana for ratings?
lol, no one wants to watch Indiana play, so what else you got.
It's kinda funny seeing this on a video of an ESPN show clip.
@@dademack3544who is no one?
If GA is better, they'll win... Easy at that! Its uh travesty for teams that just miss it WAY MORE then ANY spot in the top tournament
Notre Dame should be forced to join a conference....they loophole they way in big games every year
Notre dame doesnt play fcs schools and go coast to coast to play games. they have always had tough schedules
Nope, don’t be mad at ND! They set themselves up for success decades ago, this is not new.
I gotta give ND credit as an independent because not only do they not play FCS schools at all but they actually schedule blue bloods.. they actually play schedules where they can’t sleepwalk thru a game
Weak argument.. ND has done something 99% of programs would do if they could. They would all be independent if they actually could. How many programs could still be relevant without conference money?
@MuhGlassRibs yeah that NIU loss at home was a real test, wasn't it. Very tough scheduling there. 😅
Kirby is right. For years it was strength of schedule and that one more "data point" to place you over others. Now it appears to be just wins and losses regardless of schedule and competition. What is the criteria? No one knows. Why should Georgia schedule Clemson (or Ga Tech for that matter)? Take a look at Indiana's OOC schedule? Are they even trying? What about Miami? Ohio State? Texas? Georgia has the best wins cumulatively (Clemson, Texas, Tennessee) and the best losses (Ole Miss, Bama). They should be the highest ranked 2 loss team and possibly over some one loss teams (Miami, Indiana). Georgia has played 3 top ten teams. Only Ohio State will have done that after playing Indiana. Every other team in the top ten rankings has only played one. Notre Dame and Miami none. Georgia has played 5 teams in the top 25. Ohio State and Oregon have played 3. Everyone else two or less. Only Georgia, Ohio State (assuming they beat Indiana) and Oregon will have 3 top 25 wins (CFP Rankings). Georgia has two losses to two top ten teams. No other two loss team can say that. In fact, Bama, Ole Miss, Miami, and Notre Dame all have unranked losses, Ole Miss has two. Strength of schedule clearly doesn't matter.
@@1785ugabulldogs No one thought Indiana was going to run the table, literally no one.
@@schoolstuff5235 okay..but they've run the table versus cupcakes and not top teams, right? It tells you how low the ceiling was for the Hoosiers. But that shouldn't be used as a club to hit over the SEC's heads either. Us SEC fans are eyeing these rankings suspiciously now. I'm willing to bet if Indiana doesn't get blown out by Ohio State they won't move down more than two spots.
Kinda sux considering ga went undefeated regular season and only lose 1 sec game but miss out on playoff for..sos..but with a tough schedule this year, ga is getting screw cause of record, sos be dam. 😮😮
Only wins and losses. Who knew that the actual record and play on the field would actually matter again. Wow. Why even play the games?... Just ask the ESPN talking heads in spring practice and give the trophy to their golden SEC child.
Did GA get blown out by Ole Miss? I seem to remember something like that. I must be wrong. I'll ignore it.
Indiana, Miami and Penn State DID NOT lose 2 games. Math is hard for the SEC.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Theyre all red states that rank in the bottom in education.
We’ve seen this play out NUMEROUS times over the last 20-25 years now. Non-SEC conferences want in the BCS championship/playoff etc and then they meet their end swiftly courtesy of a SEC school. It’s because there is truth to strength of schedule/record as a good litmus test of how an Indiana vs. Georgia type situation would yield.
The outlier is a random game like Boise State vs. Oklahoma where Boise beat them……with a trick play.
@@sunsetsolutions4820 Logic appears to be hard to understand for non-SEC team fans.
That's correct, but the only reason Miami, Ohio State, Penn State, and Indiana are up there is because those guys play nobody. Georgia scheduled Clemson outside of their conference and stomped them by 31 points. Who has Indiana played that's any good? Who has Penn State beaten thats any good? Meanwhile Georgia beat Clemson who's ranked, Tennessee who's ranked, Texas who's 3rd overall at their place. Yes I get they've lost, but they lost with 2 minutes left in the game on the road at Alabama at night. They also lost to Ole Miss who's defense has 6 sacks more than 2nd in sacks and 11 more than 3rd place. They also have 16 tackles for loss more than 2nd place and UGA went and played there. Meanwhile ohio state had beaten what good team? Who has Penn State or Indiana beaten?
The Big 10 are like the Cowboys. You'll make it to the playoffs and lose unless you're a team that's been caught cheating twice in a year but still allowed to play
I don’t understand the reasoning for the hate on Ohio State, they play Oregon, Penn State, and Indiana all who are in the top 5 currently. You keep swapping between ranked and good teams when talking about wins. Ohio State lost by 1 point in a road game against the current #1 team in the country. They also beat a top 5 team in Penn State on the road. Ok, you can argue that those teams haven’t played/beaten anyone good but what about Texas and Clemson? They haven’t won against any currently ranked opponents but let’s say that those are great wins for Georgia because they’re ranked. It’s ludicrous. The SEC is performing like how the PAC12 used to be but you didn’t see the PAC12 with multiple ranked 2 loss teams like the SEC does. You can cherry pick anything to make one team look better than the other.
Ohio State deserves to be ahead of Georgia and all the other SEC teams at the moment. Say what you about those other teams, I couldn’t care less. If you’re in the SEC don’t lose to 3-4-5 or however many loss teams in the regular season multiple times. Maybe that will help those teams with getting in the playoffs.
Penn State, Texas, Notre Dame and Miami should not be over Georgia,
GA has BAD losses
@@hector8491they aren’t really bad in a way, however they do have 2 losses so that’s probably why
@@hector8491I agree with you and plus Carson Beck has been struggling this year
@@hector8491bad losses? How are they bad losses if both teams were in the top 10 and UGA played both on the road?
@@hector8491 bad losses??
Both of our losses are to top 10 teams
I've been an Oregon fan for years and it is still amazing that they have the strongest Strength of Record and are still undefeated
Guys like Finebaum aren't happy unless the SEC has every spot in the playoff. Either the games played matter, or they don't. I mean, clearly the games played didn't matter last year because god forbid Alabama be left out of the "playoff", but with 12 teams, your record has to matter.
Games played matter , good point.
He does make a tidy living complaining about it, sooooo....
Well they made the right decision bc if Michigan was better than uga then realistically they would’ve beat fsu by 70. They made the right choice putting bama in
@@drewgriffin5305 i mean, they really didn't make the right choice. it's pretty clear we haven't had a real playoff, it's just been exhibitions for TV ratings
You’re right we should’ve gotten FSU instead bc they didn’t lose right? Would’ve been another fun blowout
No one actually thinks IU, PSU, and Miami are better than UGA but we can't just rank based on a team's potential. If that were the case then these 12 regular season games are pointless and we should just begin the season with the playoff based on neutral field favorability. The fact is UGA at their best will beat anyone they play but they have only looked their best for a small portion of this entire season. IU, PSU, and Miami have won football games more consistently and are ranked appropriately because of it. We should favor production over potential. But no one denies UGA CAN BE the best team at their best. They will still make the playoff and have their chance anyways!
I will explain the difference in schedules for the people that can’t seem to understand.
Steph Curry loses to LeBron , beats kyrie , loses to Kevin Durant, beats klay thompson.
Joe from Ohio beats Carl from New Mexico, beats Alex from California, beats Tom from Wyoming.
Are we gonna say Joe is better than Steph curry because he has a better record
Let's be honest, it's about the TV ratings.
Penn state, Indiana, Miami don’t want to see UGA in the playoffs.
Georgia Tech will keep Georgia out of the playoffs.
Come to Happy Valley. I'll take my chances.
Right now Georgia would be playing Penn State in Happy Valley, in December, in the cold.
As a Notre dame fan.. bring it on. We got nothing to lose
@ Ohio state won in happy valley its not intimidating
It's clear what the commitee is doing. They are taking the route of what match-ups will produce the most money, and it's backfiring.
All I know is I LOVE ALL THIS CFB DRAMA SO MUCH 😅😂
Let Texas lose one more game and you’ll change your tune
@ Lol you clearly don’t know what I’ve been thru with my Longhorns
@@HeartlessWon506 Longhorns are for real. In 24 hours, we are going to find out a lot of things. Right now it's 12:47pm EST on FRIDAY, at this time tomorrow (Saturday, November 23rd @ 12:47pm) OSU is either going to already have an insurmountable lead on Indiana and the script will be written for the playoffs, or Indiana will still be within 7 to 14 points and have a chance or with that deficit the Buckeyes will keep piling on the lopsided talent and just strip Indiana of their dignity.... or the other option is Indiana is within 3 to 7 points and looking like they can actually move the ball on the road in an impossible environment to be successful in, which will open eyes. My guess is that it will be over for Indiana by 12:50pm all but the fat-lady singing and so College Football will have the SEC back in their rightful place in the Playoffs and OSU & Oregon will play for the BIG TEN Trophy and will get seeded appropriately and water will then find its level and all of this nonsense talk from Finebaum and others will get torched in the fireplace. THANKS TO GOD!!!!
You are the kind of person the NCAA is after, someone that doesn't like college football but loves a reality shows. You are the major demographic they are chasing.
Penn St lost a close game to the team Paul has called the best in college football (OSU). Wouldn't that suggest they should do as well or better vs the others? Why argue where they are ranked. Georgia is a great team but losing by 18 to Ole Miss is not going to help.
The committee needs to be honest with themselves and tell teams like Indiana and penn state, SORRY, you need to come back with a better strength of schedule next year. The way the ranking are playing out right now is plain dumb. I see this format changing next year.
At the end of last season, Indiana's schedule included both participants in the national title game, Ohio State, and a Nebraska team with a highly rated recruiting class coming in. It looked like a pretty strong schedule. They can't help it if after coaching changes those two teams fell back so far. They've taken care of business by blowing out every team except a highly talented if sometimes underachieving Michigan team. You can't avoid very different looking resumes so you just have to try to consider all the factors. Georgia has a beef--more with Penn State, Miami, and Ole Miss being ahead of them than they do Indiana. Even with Texas--who by the way also hasn't beaten anybody, but lost to the best team on their schedule, Georgia.
@ I agree that it’s nobody’s fault, but it’s dumb to try and put in an undefeated because they deserve it only to get blown out by remotely worthy competition. Of course Indiana can prove everyone wrong still but I don’t get why already proven good teams will have to sit out
@@MattattackWthey also play in the big 10 so they have to respect those wins
Penn State won’t and shouldn’t be left out out of a 12 team playoff with 1 loss to a team might eventually win the Championship. maybe ranked like #8 to host a playoff game or even fall to #9 and have to go on the road but 11-1 Penn State should not miss a 12 team playoff, they’re consistently a top 10-15 team so this should be expected. i think IU should be like the #10 seed if they lose
this is such a dumb argument. It’s not their fault that they’re opponents aren’t that good. Fact of the matter is that they beat them and beat them easily so you can’t dock them for that
As a dawg fan were quite use to it.
I’m a Buckeye fan, and I want to give y’all props on the NFL schedule y’all played this year. Hope we see y’all in the playoffs. Good luck bro
Finebaum’s credentials say sports personality, but his birth certificate says “Live Bats, handle with care”
1:29 "How do we explain it"??? They lost, twice
If uga played Miami’s schedule they’re undefeated and would be ranked #1
It’s called rankings, not polls. Record has to matter too
Of course it matters, but when the teams don't remotely play the same schedules it's insane to base almost everything off records. Does anyone really believe Penn State would have the same record if they had to play Texas, Bama, Ole Miss on the road and Tenn at home? That's the insane part of this. There is literally no incentive to schedule tough games name because the committee is saying they will hold it against you if you lose vs. a team like Penn State who lost to the only decent team they played (...again!)
I despise Clemson...but they are firmly in the playoff if they just scheduled a cupcake instead of UGA to start the year. I'm ticked mainly because the committee is actually making it much less likely we get great out of conference games to start the year...because you'd have to do be nuts to do it w/ these rankings.
@@RogerThat902more than the sec can say that. Just ask Nebraska, USC, or UCLA. I will give Oregon props... So far.
@@RogerThat902oh and TX comes into your vaunted conference and looses 1 game their first year. Let's see before that MO won the east twice. Also TAM has represented fairly well the entire time. Except TX, Never were they so called world beaters in cfb.
Georgia is the only team in the top 10 with a blowout loss.
So a good loss vs two top 5 teams yet Georgia loses last year sec title game to bama in OT and were left out. Make that make sense
You do know that last year there were only 4 teams in the playoffs and this year there will be 12.
Exactly, name a team better than UGA last year. Penalized for having an injured team at the SEC when most would have returned by the payoffs
@@johnwarwick7684we did not lose in OT last year.
Completely different format now, it makes perfect sense. The SECCG game last year was a playoff game. This year its probably more of a seeding game.
@@johnwarwick7684Michigan and Alabama were better
I understand the point they’re making of head-to-head factoring into the rankings. So, how is Bama ahead of Tenn if they both have the same record, but Tenn beat Bama?
People who listen to Paul Finebaum?
The SEC is gauntlet for a reason. Top to bottom it is the toughest conference in the country. In 3 years the B1G 10 and SEC will have their own league. Everyone else is out of luck. They might take 10 other schools tops from all the other conference combined and those schools will have money
Nobody actually does.
He's right though the sec a cage match
@@RobertAcosta-s7j Every p4 conference is a cage match
What has Texas done ? lol
If Georgia is so great they would've beat Alabama and Ole Miss... too bad they'll have a road playoff game, If they are good they'll still find themselves in Atlanta in January
This should be decided 100 percent by a mathematical formula outside of the automatic qualifiers.
Somebody isn't old enough to remember the BCS.... ugh...
@thatguy7850 bring it back!!
Automatic quals are only 5 spots, w ND, outside the sec. That leaves 7, even in sec math, 7 is not enough for you?
I could care less about schedule you have to win your games. Your record should rank you. Only time schedules should matter is if you have teams with the same record and the didn't loose the prior week.
HOW is a 2 LOSS Big Ten Team with 2 Top 5 losses not as good as an SEC Team with 2 Top 5 Losses or 1 UNRANKED loss. SEC Bias all over the place in this video
The whole body of work has to matter..Bama has more too 25 wins than anybody..uga has 2 but both schools have played top 10 toughest schedules..who has ohst Penn st Indiana played?
You gotta look at strength of schedule… SEC top to bottom is wayyyy better than the big 10
@@hayden2356every other conference in the P4 is better than the mid10 top to bottom
@paulmcjunkin7650 First of all stop lying. Georgia has 3 top 20 wins, not 2, same as Alabama. And Alabama does NOT have a top 10 toughest schedule, Georgia does.
@@paulmcjunkin7650 Actually UGA has more top 15 wins than anybody. And those all stayed in the top 25 not fell out... and GA has a harder schedule especially since it played 4 of it's 5 ranked teams on the road.
I say boycott the CFP if they put these weak teams in the playoff. The criteria to get into the playoff cannot be solely based on won/loss record without taking a look at the current strength of schedule.
Quality wins vs. quality losses should also be factored into the decisions. There is a way to factor all of those criteria into an analytic model. I’m sure they can figure it out.
This doesn’t seem complicated Indiana is undefeated Georgia lost twice so they’re below teams that have less losses than them
Exactly. My kids peewee team is undefeated against other 8 year olds. They should be above Georgia. Just because GA plays much harder opponents; that shouldn't matter 1 bit.
Not all conferences are equal why isnt army #1? Understand Football before making loser claims like that
Yeah Georgia should've scheduled a bunch of high school teams. They'd be undefeated and therefore have "less losses" according to your logic.
@ doesn’t seem complicated. Indiana is undefeated. Georgia lost twice in Indiana is higher than them because of it.
@ well that’s just stupid so I won’t entertain a stupid comment like that. I feel bad for your kids.
Does strength of tecord, strength of schedule become a team's defense attorney when the team theyre trying to get in the playoffs gets their azz kicked twice,i,e.. Georgia & Alabama. Losing gets rewarded, winning gets punished according to the name on the helmet
SEC RUN THIS 😂😂😂 😮
Tenn should be ahead of Texas, Penn St. , Miami and ND. Those team have played no one . Some lost at home and some to unranked opponents or both
They have to put SC in if they win out. Nobody playing better right now
if UGA played miamis schedule and vice versa, miami would be 6-4 and uga 10-0
UGA should be AT LEAST top 8
Heather Ohio state only has one loss by one point not 2
Who knew SEC fans see Indiana of all schools as a threat. i thought i never would have seen this.
A threat to take a playoff spot away from an SEC team that would likely beat Indiana by 21 points 😂
Believe me, every SEC fan would LOVE to play Indiana in the playoffs.
No sech school sees Indiana as a threat because most of them Kentucky would be to Indiana
He’s afraid of the snow &-32 degree weather
@@brad4687 anyone can play in 60° weather but can these southern SEC teams play in the white out snow conditions in 30° weather yeah I don’t think so
Over the past 20 years, Oregon has outscored their SEC opponents 255-212, despite playing on the SEC opponent's home field 75% of the time.
It’s so nice to see the SEC so upset, at least you didn’t get hosed like FSU did last year.
🤪🤪 FSU fan
FSU didn’t get hosed, they were never a top 4 team, and now they about to be 1-11 😂😂😂😂
@@jerodmayoINC you can’t compare last year to this year when they lose 20 something players and 10 of them make the nfl. lol we had the best defense in the nation last year.
@snookmania1062 not comparing the teams, it’s just funny lol. Y’all were not a top 4 team without Travis, barely beat a 5-7 Florida team starting a freshman and then was reduced to the wildcat against Louisville, they were not better than Bama who beat Georgia, let it go. We’ve seen this year how good Brock Glenn is
Uga did get hosed last year.
If you assume all SEC teams are better than other conferences, then all SEC teams will by definition have a stronger schedule than all other teams, and they should all be in the playoffs.
Have you been living under a rock the last twenty years? Of course the SEC is the best conference in college football and it’s not even close.
Give Alabama Georgia or Tennesse IUs schedule would people in the SEC be complaining? NO!
How about Alabama not lose to the perennial powerhouse that is VANDERBILT! LOL
Finebaum fights for the SEC, and good for him, usually he has an argument but not this year.
They don't play that schedule though because its too weak. They play real teams
@ YEA! Like Alabama only plays teams like USF, Western Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Mercer!!! Real teams!!
@@bxuzabc Tennessee would have a losing record playing that schedule 😂
@bxuzabc the only "real" team on that list is bama. Rest of the sec is irrelevant
I don’t care if you are better than teams in front of you. If you lose 3 games, you don’t deserve a shot at the title. If georgia doesn’t lose another they’ll be in
If your 3rd loss comes in a conference championship vs a Top 5 team, that’s unfair/dumb to penalize that team for playing a 13th game for a trophy.
@ sec only plays 8 conference games lol
Indiana, penn and ND are bad jokes.
University of Pennsylvania is 4-5, no one is talking about them.
Well...Penn State gets a first round game in happy valley. Good luck to any team having to go in there lol. I'm taking Penn State over any team in the first round
@@hector8491 They literally just LOST AT HOME to a struggling OSU team. Not a soul on this earth is worried about beating Penn State 😂😂😂
@@TheMCJ2011 " struggling" Ohio State???? They just lost their starting center, is that what you mean? Or do you make "struggling" like the 2 and 3 losses that the SEC went thru this season?? And .....please....knock it off with the schedules. The reporters from ESPN sets up the SEC with their Top 25 every year. This year its backfiring and their fans are losing it. Just accept reality this year and go back to your corner.
If they are so bad then your team should beat them, so what's the problem? It's a win for your team right?
Loser of acc will get screwed, while 2 loss sec teams that don't even go to thier championship game will get in
Indiana had Michigan Washington OSU on Schedule who new two teams in CFP a year later would stink
Exactly not Indiana fault, they beat the teams in front of them
I don’t think it was a crazy thought to imagine Washington and Michigan regressing immensely after all the coaches and talent that left them.
@@illapuproductionsyea but so would have everyone else in the top 20 and Indiana wouldn’t even be bowl eligible playing UGA’s schedule this season
Um…we all knew based on all the players those teams were losing. Either way, it’s not Indiana’s fault
Everyone and the fans thought they would.
Paul and ESPN championing the SEC, what else is new. They just want as many SEC teams in, that's all they care about. STFU
No it means those 6 new committee members aren’t SEC Homers. I love it!!!! Get these SEC Alumni that vote for 2 SEC teams in a 4 team playoffs every year OUT OF HERE
Yo do know when the both got in they met in the national championship, they win it almost every year but ok
@ doesn’t matter idiot. If I put two big ten teams in theirs that same outcome of that happening because of the odds of winning 1 game. Tf that’s common sense. You didn’t win last year now did you?
Don't matter what yall big 10 homers try sec will still win the championship most years. Sure yall will have a one off here and there. But consistently the sec will continue to dominate college football, period!!!!
Sec football is huge because the southeast eats sleeps and breathes college football. If you go other places around the states it’s just not the same.
Miami, Indiana and Texas have no reason to be here
I hate the SEC
Let me guess because they are winners with a tuff schedule
@@talkingrock7011 SEC requirement, have felonies and 2 baby mommas
@@talkingrock7011 the hubris that the worst team in the SEC could win the big 12, acc, or big 10 gets annoying. isn't that what you imply when you say "they" are winners instead of naming an actual team or teams?
the fact the sec only play 8 conference games, and schedules fcs schools in november, but still says with a straight face that it makes no difference because muh sec schedule is annoying.
if you start with 12 teams ranked in the top 25 and all beat each other, could someone determine that you aren't that good? instead, sec homer maintains that the reason they all beat each other is because they ARE so good. but let a 2-loss team from another conference make that argument and sec homer says "you should have won your games".
7 sec teams have lost OOC games this year, that is ignored. the top rated team in the sec is a big 12 team is ignored.
i don't think reasonable or knowledgeable fans object to an opinion that generally the sec is the best conference overall, its the absurd level to which sec homer takes it. expecting 5 or 6 of 12 teams in a 12-team bracket to come from one conference is horseshit, yet we hear these same tired arguments every year when sec man feel like he doesn't get his pat on the head and milk bone.
@@zeller3228 most SEC fans aren't the above. Every conference has those fans.
To be fair though, you are ignoring the top SEC teams that have been scheduling top ranked team matchups instead of cupcakes. But to say one more conference game makes that big of a difference, or that those conferences that do don't A) have some absurdly weak teams that are on the same level as some of the better FCS schools and B) some of those teams still schedule FCS schools, is a little disingenuous.
The top rated SEC team being a Big 12 team is disingenuous as well. They played an SEC schedule. A weaker one, but they are in no way a Big 12 team. And they got crushed at home by the one ranked conference team they played...
But yeah, most SEC fans roll their eyes when someone says there should be 6 SEC teams in the playoff or that the worst SEC team would handily win other conferences.
As a lifelong SEC I'll say this: there is no absolute Elite team in the conference this year. I'd argue that the top end is still better than anybody *when they play to their ability, but that's why we have the playoffs.... But I've never seen this level of parity in the middle. There are 8 SEC schools that can legit compete with anybody in the country this year. That combination has opened the door for other fan bases to criticize the SEC. And maybe that's fair. But it's funny to me that Big 12 fans have been saying that their conference is the best top to bottom, and now when the SEC has the most parity we've seen that means it's down? I don't get the logic...
A good therapist can help you out, bro.
The SEC has NEVER won a game in Eugene, Oregon, or Boise, Idaho. Ever.
If UGA is as great as they say, then there’s no reason they can’t go to whatever stadium and dominate.
The sec on the road is different
@@carlbutler2080 Unless you're Texas where winning on the road in the SEC doesn't matter because weird logic.
It doesn't take away from the fact that UGA is being robbed of a home playoff game which its fans very much would love to see. Especially after having the hardest schedule in the nation facing 3 top 10 opponents on the road and Clemson in a neutral. Meanwhile, Indiana strength of schedule is 106th and is in prime position to host a home playoff game. Penn States SOS is also not great. Same with Notre Dame. All will be hosting playoff games if things stay the same.
which is actually what sec man says every bowl season when team x has to beat lsu in the sugar bowl, georgia in the peach, flordia in the citrus, etc.
@@reyb1649 Any ‘ranked’ matchup from any team before the CFP rankings are out is nonsense. It’s media driven. There’s no way to know how good any team will be until they play. Personally, I’d prefer no rankings and forced matchups between P4 conferences. No more FCS or lower-level in-state competition. Doing this removes the fluff from schedules and allows for a real discussion. As it sits, right now, there’s only suggestive reasoning and conference bias.
texas has a total of ZERO top25 wins.
No one has a reason to be mad. Its an excuse because humans are aggressive.
This will be the best Championship run in Kirby Smart’s tenure at UGA, just watch.
The sec wins the national championship so much more than All the other conferences combined. They have the most money, best athletes, hardest schedules. And they send the most payers to the NFL. There is no sec bias its just logic
Wasn't 3 of them when they were playing with themselves? Lol
Wins and losses count right
Georgia should in no way be ranked above Bama or Ole Miss. Georgia isn’t getting a home game at this rate.
Yes they should. By that logic bama should in no way be ranked above Tennessee. Foh
I agree they only beat Tennessee my team by 14 we beat Alabama they win the SEC championship should we be out at 10-2
When the chips fall ...georgia will be rank between 5 and 8 ..they are getting a home game.
Oh really I guess strength of schedule doesn't mean anything anymore? Keep moving the goal post if it helps u sleep at night
TX should in no way be ranked above the GA team that beat them by 2 TDs and the teams that beat GA-Bama and Ole Miss
Honestly wouldn’t even care if we used strength if record instead of a committee.
Georgia literally has 2 losses.. barely beat Florida.. who Miami Waxed. The SEC bias is ridiculous
And they smashed Texas on the road at home, beat down Clemson, & just dropped Tennessee like a bad bag of dope
@@TheBirdCageLLCas if there’s a good bag ??
So when uga beats GT by 21+ how’s Miami going to look then?
@@Willclapton Miami still will look good. Georgia and Miami should be higher.. Plain and simple.. Penn st and Texas should be lower.
Miami lost to GA tech and hasn’t beaten or even played a ranked team 😂😂😂
Bama moved up because BYU lost and Bama beat Georgia and has 4 RANKED WINS which everyone seems to be ignoring.
And they lost to Tennessee and Vandy. That must be some kind of benefit.
Missouri and LSU aren’t too 25 teams at all not sure why Missouri is ranked, same with Illinois
@@kev614 because that artificially boost the sec sos, they do it every year. And I guess ILL for the B10, tho I don't understand how.
It's just all for money.
@@brettwolven6390 of course it is.. that's the point of conferences, TV contracts, etc
@@JSum81 yeah but it should be the best teams where they belong
He should be furious with the Hair Club for Men since they failed him.
If it was up to finebaum Alabama would be number 1
I really wanna see that Hoosiers vs Buckeyes matchup, not a fan of either but I think it's going to be a good game
It will be a blow out
I don’t. IU struggled against Michigan and Vegas has it 13 point spread. If they lose by 14 they aren’t a playoff team
@kevinward6141 🤷🏾♂️ thats an opinion I didnt ask for ..I said I wanna see the game, I didnt ask if you wanted to
@@hycho8925 🤷🏾♂️
I always make sure I never ever subscribe to a channel with loud music starting or ending the video.
Go on the numbers.. not the fluff.. Finebaum has lost all credibility since he completely botched all predictions for this year..
It looks like for future scheduling, SEC teams should schedule the weakest teams in the conference because these rankings prove that the number of wins is more important that quality wins and SoS.
maybe the teams should just win their games, sec man. that's what you tell everyone else with 2 losses.
Honestly, just remove the SEC and make the same case. If Clemson scheduled a cupcake instead of UGA they are firmly in the playoff. If anyone says "But Clemson sucks". That's exactly the point. Had they not challenged themselves they'd be a 1 loss team w/ a better resume than some schools the committee seems to love because they have 1 loss. If you want more great games this committee is actually hurting that by showing everyone they don't factor in strength of schedule. Why would anyone willingly risk a loss they don't have to?
@@RogerThat902 i agree. teams should be rewarded by tough OOC games. not sure how to do it mathematically. my biggest beef with the committee is that we can all see they just use switching buzzwords to stack ranks the way they want.
if they would just pre-publish the criteria, even if you disagree, there would be little argument. of course, then why would you need a fucking committee? government in any form, will figure out a way to justify their existence.
Texas fan here, no one has a right to be mad!!!, of the top 15 all you have to do is handle your business and you have a shot at playing in the Natty (realistically only about 6 teams have a shot) even if Texas loses and is the 13th team so be it. That is the great thing about the playoffs.
Make the CFP committee Great Again!!!😂😂
Georgia will probably win the whole thing so this is moot.
Dont worry georgia, you wont get left out like fsu
But we did last year, just like FSU. We lost our last game, a close contest, in the SEC championship and got punished for it.
You mean like last year???
Polls don't matter until they matter
Paul Finebaum makes no sense. If you stack a confrence with most of the best teams this is what happens. They get all of the best teams, make the most money, prime TV slots and God forbid if they are not ranked ahead of everyone else. They should have their own playoffs.
If they did it would be more entertaining than the cfp playoff w all the other conferences
@@drewgriffin5305it’s not even the whole SEC who has been dominate it’s Alabama, Georgia for 2 years, Florida in like 08 and Auburn for 1 year the rest of the teams have been irrelevant
New rule, the four conference champs, and the rest of the 12 team bracket be filled with sec teams only so Paul can have his way
Paul is a snowflake. He just has SEC bias.
Yup. ND fan who admits we profit from being ND and i love watching SEC football but this year the sec is not as powerul as it used to be, even w the addition of tex and ok
All you have to do is go back 20 years see how many teams from the SECHas been National Champs. And if they did not win it they played for it.The SEC record speak for itself.
@@hrs1414what other conference has 8 teams finishing 10-2?
Sec is the best conference for a reason
@Fafopod333 Well, the rankings are not reflecting that for this season. I would say right now the Big Ten is the best. As four out of five is B10 teams.
Paul all 14 SEC teams can't get into a 12 team playoff but somewhat agree and the one getting screwed here is Tennessee as they beat Alabama. Alabama beating Georgia is their saving grace but Georgia's win over Texas was more impressive and shouldn't be barely hanging on. I wish they treated Wisconsin in 2017 & 2018 the way they treating Indiana now!
These espn analysts think like Stone Age people,they’re missing the old way,everything changes ,life,universe,civilization and sports but these people refuse to understand changes
Chris Mad Dog Russo is the perfect example of this; he will not let Larry Bird & Bob Cousey go, that style of play & era is over appreciate change and what these athletes are doing.
Big10 captured the top four media markets. Another game is being played.
They appear to be going by record mostly. They aren't paying attention to much else, and it may cost them if these highly ranked teams without a quality win lose a game. Where do they put them then?
The SEC is not that much better than the Big Ten. The SEC is very top heavy. They just like the Big Ten have three teams every year above the rest of the country. Outside of that, it’s mediocre teams everywhere!
tosu is 2-15 all-time against the SEC in bowl games. Our "mediocre" team South Carolina has played the 2nd toughest schedule in the country, plays ranked teams nearly every weekend and would easily be undefeated with the 103rd ranked schedule. Teams like indiana would be lucky to cross the 50 against their nationally ranked defense.
Not true, those teams like Vandy,Ky, SC would be top teams in ACC, Big 10
I am really confused with Finebaum anger. If Georgia wins their next two games (close or blow outs), they would be in the playoffs. Finebaum being mad because Georgia might have to play Indiana or Penn State on the road does not make sense to me. Georgia should be good enough to beat this teams. The SEC teams that should be stressing are Tennesse and Ole Miss. Because we know that if Alabama, Texas, Tennesse, Ole Miss and Georgia all have two losses at the end of the season with 4 spots for the SEC, I gauarantee you Georgia, Texas and Alabama would be in the playoffs.
If Texas has 2 losses then imo they shouldn’t make it
Ole miss or tennesee should make it over them
It's because Georgia due to it's number 1 ranked SOS having to face 3 top 10 teams on the road this year should be hosting a playoff game, but won't.
@@reyb1649 Right it not hard. The point many are making, including no fans of the SEC, it's weird that the committee doesn't seem to place any real value on UGA playing a very very difficult schedule. A schedule it's safe to assume many of the teams above them would likely have an even worse record. Penn State is the perfect example. They get spanked yearly by the few teams they play w/ a pulse. We are supposed to believe they are better than UGA because they got spanked by the only team they played w/ a pulse...again? It's just so silly
Paul, your actions are getting tiresome. Why don’t you have a SEC tournament and crown your tournament. Leave the rest of us alone.
You don’t want that lol everyone would watch that and no one would care anything about the rest of the country. Your teams would be begging to be a sec team.
@ In case you haven’t notice, the people in the SEC think they are the only ones that play football anyway. I doubt the rest of us would be begging to join the SEC.
Greeny, "Candidly, what the committee is doing makes no sense". Mike Greenberg obviously hasn't watched football games this year.
Paul has his tongue so far up Georgia - despite their two losses. Heather - remember to count the quality losses as well as wins. Paul: Take a tablet - the CFP rankings are a moving picture. If Texas loses to A&M and the Bulldogs sweep the season, Paul will be fine with the CFP system. He’ll roll over like a puppy with a Milkbone®️
We are Living In a World where we want to Reward Others for what they did in the past, and the ones that are doing Now Are not being rewarded, and Paul Finebbaum is a big part of that reason, cause Miami loss One Game, and has been dominating, and Georgia got 2 losses and we want them to be ranked higher all cause it’s Georgia Bulldogs, We are Joking Now, Figuring ways to keep the little guy down ESPN Great Job, Paul Finebbaum great job.
Miami had been playing w/ fire since conference play started.. they were bound to lose giving up nearly 40pts a game, they just so happen to have the best QB in the country to cover up for that terrible defense
Miami sucks. They scrape by every week against mediocre opponents
@ Are They Winning??
Imagine quoting strength of record for all teams but then only using strength of schedule for Indiana. Bc you’d find that Indiana is still 6th in your cherry picked metric. And that’s not even counting the fact that they’ve looked dominant all hesr
Indiana is not sixth in strength of schedule, lol. They're actually 106th.
Where do you get 6th?! 😂
@@masondraughon2589 strength of record the metric he was using and then just didn’t mention it for Indiana
strength of record is teams you've beat and loss to not if your just 10-0 cmon kid
@@shewantmyliver1942 well yeah if it were just 10-0 they’d be second
In 1aa d2and 3 if you lose no matter to who it effects your seed… finebaum is only for Colorado and sec teams now … this is how playofff formats works sir….
That's not a fair comparison at all. In FCS and D2-3 (1AA hasn't existed for almost 20 years smh) your overall record does not matter as much because each conference sends their best. It's not structured the same at all. So they literal have different formats.
Also, you know that Paul Finebaum IS an SEC pundit, right? He actively stumps for the SEC and is very open about it...
Georgia could lose 5 games people would still want them to be in because there Georgia 😂😂
Exactly. Alabama also. It’s sad. Both teams aren’t nearly as good as they have been the last couple seasons.
Both teams have struggled all season long and could easily have 3 or 4 losses. Why do these idiots act so clueless and angry?
Or and just a thought, having wins against Texas and Tennessee is more impressive than anything Indiana has done. If losses are that big of an issue, why is Penn State above Army? Army are undefeated and strength of schedule doesn't matter, right?
Indiana is not good
Let’s go bulldogs 😤😤😤😤 not my faught your team sucks
Notre Dame makes their own schedule because they are not in a conference. They have a ton of home games against deficient teams and even on neutral fields against service academies. Nobody complains about that.
Strength of record is the dumbest metric ever made in sports
except its used in march madness and thats why they have the most competitive playoff setup out of any sport. its also why we don't wanna see tcu get smacked by georgia 65-7 like 2 years ago or see fsu get smacked last year. gtfo
Bc it doesn’t fit your narrative
I know right! Who you beat is completely irrelevent...
They aren't looking at the strength of record very much and factoring it into their decision making. Because if they did Georgia would be higher ranked. The Gamecocks would/should also be ranked higher than 18. They have 4 top 25 wins and lost to two more ranked teams by 5 points and we all know they got robbed by the refs in that LSU game. I'm not saying they should be in the top 12 but they should be close. My suspicion is there are discussions on the committee to limit the amount of teams from a particular conference and make it more equitable to the other divisions. If this is the future and what to expect from the committee then the SEC has a big problem on their hands.