I have a monport and I agree that their customer service at least is not prompt.... My issue is different than yours and if I could fix it myself I would but the unit is just defective. I think we will get to the bottom of it eventually... they are just not exactly prompt.
I couldn’t have agreed more. People need to understand any product purchased. It’s just an uneducated person that feels technical support is there to hand walk them thur the operation. Learn/ being tough the hands on approach. It’s priceless. I’ve learned more tinkering with stuff. My Castaly- 120 watts, was an overkill for a first time buying. I got it used and the previous owner is helping me to understand options.
All of those machines are super easy to trouble shoot and work on, I service those things all the time and don’t understand how most people don’t even try.
Great video and I always tell people something really similar. I’m not a big customer service kind of person but I can concede that it is nice to have the option in case you really get stuck. Never had any major issues with my 80w Monport. Luckily there is so much knowledge available online through websites and forums especially. I’ve never ran into a problem I couldn’t research, ask some questions about, and find the answer. Keep up the good work!
@@SpicerDesignsLLC I have a 100 Watt Reci XM-1060, and love it. I make Artistic Wood Boxes, and find that the 100 watt is too much. I easily could have gotten away with the 60 watt unit. I only cut 4 mm wood for the trays, and leather. So well within the reach of the 60 watt. So unless I would do a lot of cutting, I agree with your evaluation that the 60 watt unit is in a sweet spot. Large bed, wide range of wattage.. good speed. I do however like my autofocus, as though most of my work is on veneer and 1/2" wood for inlays etc., I once in a while need 3" or 5" to address "mistakes" that I "need to correct". Autofocus makes the switch easy. Thanks for your video. I like your style.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC One other observation: The 100 watt units "s*ck" at fine engraving things like photos. You are working with too much of a range in the low end of a 100 watt output curve. Doesn't do photos well. A low power laser or even a diode laser excels at that function.
Kyle, I'm having the same problem with my new Monport 80W. Randomly on cuts and engraving. I will be contacting monport also. If you find out what the problem is let us know the fix. Thanks
I was really hoping to start on that sooner. It is coming up probably end of July. Trying to get the welding cart done first. Which i have started. Thats why i needed the metal brake. Just hang in there a little longer. Sorry for the delay
Kyle, very informative video, I just never upgraded to the technology ! I'm still trying to perfect my hand held wood burning skills. I do have 3 tips though, flat,... knife edge,... and Pencil point (for deep burning!) 🤣 (Yeah, there's always one in the crowd !!!)
You're looking at $2300 for the 60W vs $4300 for the 100W. That's 60% more in cost for a 66% increase in output power, so it's scaling somewhat linearly. I didn't check the other wattages to see if a 130W unit scales the same. But if you can engrave something at 125mm/s at 60% power (36W) on the 60W unit, that means you should be able to run 250mm/s at 72% power (72W) on the 100W unit, assuming that the engraving quality is nothing more than total power applied to any given location. That means you can cut the engraving time in half, which could be be fairly quickly amortized over the 60% price difference of the two units. Do you think the engraving quality for the samples at 125mm/s at whatever power is the same as the 250mm/s at twice the power?
Your right, but more power and speed isnt the greatest quality for engraving. At least in my experience it hasnt been. I personally think the advantage of the 100w is with cutting. Very good point and break down JC. And remember, i am by no means an expert with these engravers. I have a lot to learn.
very true kyle i have learned alot on my own just with plasma... i hate relying on a phone call or email .... unless its something that i cant handle like computer glitches from pronest Hypertherm has a killer tech support and sometimes i just need a phone answer and not a back and forth email which i ABSOLUTELY hate
The whole point of increasing your overall power is so you can also increase your speed, ultimately saving you time in cutting/engraving times…and giving you the opportunity to be more efficient with larger production runs. I’m not sure why you’d ever want to keep the speeds the same unless your thought us to save the laser tube’s life span, however, the higher watt tubes typically coming with a longer rated life span anyway…
I understand that. But the higher speed on he 100 watt decreased the quality of the engraving. Thats why i said for engraving your not really gaining anything with the more powerful laser. For cutting material, it blows the 60 watt out of the water for efficiency.
Not sure if you have been told this but the point of a higher wattage is so you can run at a lower % of the total wattage of your tube. This prolongs the life of your tube. When comparing the power and speed of the laser are you comparing each one equally to their top power? As 60% of 100w and 60% of 60watts don't equal eachother. I have a 130w c02 and it cuts alot nicer. The alignment of the mirrors and adjusting of the focus in the head is paramount to cut quality as is wiping the mirrors and keeping them clean. Using air assist really improves your cut quality.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC If you weren't aware, running external (dry and oil free) compressed air makes a massive difference to preventing charring that you're seeing there. Not sure how that needs to be connected for your specific machines, but it's a huge improvement over the small pumps machines like this come with, that are also not consistent. I run lower pressure when cutting paper etc. or engraving vs cutting thick materials. You can also engrave at higher speeds when power is a limiting factor, on a higher wattage machine.
Someone might have comment this already but I don't want to read them all to find out, ain't nobody got time for dat. You can have lightburn create the material tests for you, it's alot easier than making your own.
I did see that in the tools tab. I created one but it wouldnt let me see the grid or allow me to alter it. It just gave me a preview and sent it straight to the laser. Im sure theres a way, idk.
Nice review. Anything you've found to remove or hide the burnt carcass smell from lasered leather? Ive tried lots of stuff, but it still seems to keep the smell. I just tell others, oh thats the smell of real leather.
agreed on service - u call your car dealer every time u cant work the radio? However, when companies target "consumers" u have to expect more service is needed
Yeah, drop the focal depth for finer engraving. Short story is bigger is better for cutting, smaller is better for fine engraving as big tubes can't do low power. That's why dual tube machines exist, with say 150W for cutting & 40W for engraving.
I am not familiar with this brand, however, most of these import machines will likely need to install a way to monitor the power supply amperage to really understand the power settings.
Isn't the idea behind more power to be able to increase the speed? You only mentioned power percentage comparisons, What if you used the same settings on both machines, but increased the speed on the 100W by 40-60%?
I cant complain about the Contact i have had with monport. Every emaul has a 1 or 2 day turn around. My issue is that i ordered my laser on april 26, qnd its june 10th and still havent shipped it!!!!! I got a emaul on the second day saying they arent going to honor the free shupping as promised. And now want an additional 800$ I dont want to cancel my order, but i feel like they are extorting more. Money out of me.
Getting rid of the 100 what will be a regret at a latter date, The reason why for this is that as you grow the 100 will keep pace with your growth, on the other hand with the growth factor the 60 will need replacing sooner.
If i were in a position to do that i would. Unfortunately im not, these machines are my payment for making these videos. I typically keep them and use them for the business but i don’t need two co2 lasers.
This Echo Studio Wifi Speaker works awesome in the shop…except when your trying to film: amzn.to/3yBSgOQ
I have a monport and I agree that their customer service at least is not prompt.... My issue is different than yours and if I could fix it myself I would but the unit is just defective. I think we will get to the bottom of it eventually... they are just not exactly prompt.
Great video, liked and subscribed. Your shop is freaking awesome btw, I can only wish!
@@willmartin6198 thank you! I appreciate that.
I couldn’t have agreed more. People need to understand any product purchased. It’s just an uneducated person that feels technical support is there to hand walk them thur the operation. Learn/ being tough the hands on approach. It’s priceless. I’ve learned more tinkering with stuff. My Castaly- 120 watts, was an overkill for a first time buying. I got it used and the previous owner is helping me to understand options.
It allows you to get familiar with new machines quicker too.
All of those machines are super easy to trouble shoot and work on, I service those things all the time and don’t understand how most people don’t even try.
Great video and I always tell people something really similar. I’m not a big customer service kind of person but I can concede that it is nice to have the option in case you really get stuck.
Never had any major issues with my 80w Monport. Luckily there is so much knowledge available online through websites and forums especially. I’ve never ran into a problem I couldn’t research, ask some questions about, and find the answer.
Keep up the good work!
Very true! Thanks for sharing
Ooooo, I need a "machine" Keychain for my jeep!!! Great video!
Thanks for the video and comparison!! Keep up the great work.
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I have enjoyed my Monport so far. Thanks for the review.
You can adjust your MM per second to lessen the time on the engraving to match closer to the 60w?
Very interesting comparison! That shop is filling up with all these fancy MACHINES
One of these need to go. Just not sure which one.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC I have a 100 Watt Reci XM-1060, and love it. I make Artistic Wood Boxes, and find that the 100 watt is too much. I easily could have gotten away with the 60 watt unit. I only cut 4 mm wood for the trays, and leather. So well within the reach of the 60 watt. So unless I would do a lot of cutting, I agree with your evaluation that the 60 watt unit is in a sweet spot. Large bed, wide range of wattage.. good speed. I do however like my autofocus, as though most of my work is on veneer and 1/2" wood for inlays etc., I once in a while need 3" or 5" to address "mistakes" that I "need to correct". Autofocus makes the switch easy. Thanks for your video. I like your style.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC One other observation: The 100 watt units "s*ck" at fine engraving things like photos. You are working with too much of a range in the low end of a 100 watt output curve. Doesn't do photos well. A low power laser or even a diode laser excels at that function.
Thought I clicked on a Tracy Chapman video by mistake... Love the intro music!!!
Thats a new one i just found. I thought it had a nice beat to it.
How does a Monport laser compare to the Xtool P2/S?
Video idea maybe?
Some brave editing there, I suppose she's used to it 😊. Nice one Kyle.
Hah! She hasnt seen it yet. She deals with way worse from me.
Awesome! Looking forward to it ! 👍🏻
Kyle, I'm having the same problem with my new Monport 80W. Randomly on cuts and engraving. I will be contacting monport also. If you find out what the problem is let us know the fix. Thanks
Will do. Hopefully its something simple
@SpicerDesignsLLC USB speeds can be an issue with the newer controller resulting in dropouts. Try the same setup using ethernet.
Hey Kyle just wondering what happened to the log splitter build ??
I was really hoping to start on that sooner. It is coming up probably end of July. Trying to get the welding cart done first. Which i have started. Thats why i needed the metal brake. Just hang in there a little longer. Sorry for the delay
Kyle, very informative video, I just never upgraded to the technology ! I'm still trying to perfect my hand held wood burning skills. I do have 3 tips though, flat,... knife edge,... and Pencil point (for deep burning!) 🤣
(Yeah, there's always one in the crowd !!!)
Hey thanks for the tips john!
Another cool machine... what else do you think you're going to try engraving besides leather and wood with the 60w? 🍻
Id like to get into acrylic and start engraving on some powder coated metal projects. Should do really well with those materials
What do you think about the one with the built in chiller? Do you recommend?
I havent had one with the built in but im sure its good. Lets space
Will the 100w Handel metal products for cutting or is that out of the question? More power is more better.
No the 100 watt wont cut steel. Not enough power. Might cut through a pop can but thats it. I wish it could
good job !!!!
Great comparison. I agree, the 60 would suffice. Is the 100 watt machine physically larger? I can't quite tell from the video.
No its the same size except for the erected part for the co2 tube
Dang I want one of these but I don’t have the room for one! Great review!!!
You're looking at $2300 for the 60W vs $4300 for the 100W. That's 60% more in cost for a 66% increase in output power, so it's scaling somewhat linearly. I didn't check the other wattages to see if a 130W unit scales the same. But if you can engrave something at 125mm/s at 60% power (36W) on the 60W unit, that means you should be able to run 250mm/s at 72% power (72W) on the 100W unit, assuming that the engraving quality is nothing more than total power applied to any given location. That means you can cut the engraving time in half, which could be be fairly quickly amortized over the 60% price difference of the two units. Do you think the engraving quality for the samples at 125mm/s at whatever power is the same as the 250mm/s at twice the power?
Your right, but more power and speed isnt the greatest quality for engraving. At least in my experience it hasnt been. I personally think the advantage of the 100w is with cutting. Very good point and break down JC. And remember, i am by no means an expert with these engravers. I have a lot to learn.
Ahhh that makes sense!
Thanks for honest sharing👍👍👍
very true kyle i have learned alot on my own just with plasma... i hate relying on a phone call or email .... unless its something that i cant handle like computer glitches from pronest Hypertherm has a killer tech support and sometimes i just need a phone answer and not a back and forth email which i ABSOLUTELY hate
Ya the emailing is pretty annoying. Hard to explain technical issues through a keyboard.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC thats exactly my point !!! 3 minute phone call or 3 days of emails
The whole point of increasing your overall power is so you can also increase your speed, ultimately saving you time in cutting/engraving times…and giving you the opportunity to be more efficient with larger production runs. I’m not sure why you’d ever want to keep the speeds the same unless your thought us to save the laser tube’s life span, however, the higher watt tubes typically coming with a longer rated life span anyway…
I understand that. But the higher speed on he 100 watt decreased the quality of the engraving. Thats why i said for engraving your not really gaining anything with the more powerful laser. For cutting material, it blows the 60 watt out of the water for efficiency.
Not sure if you have been told this but the point of a higher wattage is so you can run at a lower % of the total wattage of your tube. This prolongs the life of your tube. When comparing the power and speed of the laser are you comparing each one equally to their top power? As 60% of 100w and 60% of 60watts don't equal eachother. I have a 130w c02 and it cuts alot nicer. The alignment of the mirrors and adjusting of the focus in the head is paramount to cut quality as is wiping the mirrors and keeping them clean. Using air assist really improves your cut quality.
I did mention in the video that the higher wattage machines are better suited for cutting. I do more engraving and the 60watt did a cleaner job.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC If you weren't aware, running external (dry and oil free) compressed air makes a massive difference to preventing charring that you're seeing there. Not sure how that needs to be connected for your specific machines, but it's a huge improvement over the small pumps machines like this come with, that are also not consistent. I run lower pressure when cutting paper etc. or engraving vs cutting thick materials. You can also engrave at higher speeds when power is a limiting factor, on a higher wattage machine.
Love your content man! How much are you selling the laser for?
Thank you. Im not sure what im doing with the laser yet but email me and i can let you know.
Well where is the link to your merch????
I have the email address in the video. I dont have a website set up yet. Thats the next thing on the list.
Someone might have comment this already but I don't want to read them all to find out, ain't nobody got time for dat. You can have lightburn create the material tests for you, it's alot easier than making your own.
I did see that in the tools tab. I created one but it wouldnt let me see the grid or allow me to alter it. It just gave me a preview and sent it straight to the laser. Im sure theres a way, idk.
Nice review. Anything you've found to remove or hide the burnt carcass smell from lasered leather? Ive tried lots of stuff, but it still seems to keep the smell. I just tell others, oh thats the smell of real leather.
Ya its an issue for me too. Someone told me to seal the leather before I engrave. Havent tried it yet.
Can I have the 60w Monport ? I need it ! Great videos
The 100w would be great also😊
Where do you get your rolling variable height tables?
@@FredSchmitthammer i have a link for it in the description.
Thank you! Ordering my 80watt auto focus today!
Awesome. Congrats! I need to put mine to work
agreed on service - u call your car dealer every time u cant work the radio? However, when companies target "consumers" u have to expect more service is needed
We trying to improve our service support, hope you enjoy
@@monportlaser its between u and Boss - 90-100w - push us over the edge?
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Pretty cool!
another thing that you can do is change the lenses that effects engraving and cutting.
Yeah, drop the focal depth for finer engraving. Short story is bigger is better for cutting, smaller is better for fine engraving as big tubes can't do low power. That's why dual tube machines exist, with say 150W for cutting & 40W for engraving.
I am not familiar with this brand, however, most of these import machines will likely need to install a way to monitor the power supply amperage to really understand the power settings.
The test grids demonstrate the power settings. Not sure how a monitor on the power supply would benefit.
More powa 💥
Hi Kyle do you ship to Germany?
I can get a shipping quote for you. Just email me and we can go over everything.
👌👍Thanks for sharing!
Isn't the idea behind more power to be able to increase the speed? You only mentioned power percentage comparisons, What if you used the same settings on both machines, but increased the speed on the 100W by 40-60%?
If you look at the cut charts the detail starts to get distorted when you speed them up.
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I didn’t find this video helpful at all, kinda boring, but damn I like this channel! Spicer Designs….. legit
Hah! Sorry the video was boring. These laser videos can be that way but i try to keep them entertaining.
Lol high pitch squeal
I cant complain about the Contact i have had with monport.
Every emaul has a 1 or 2 day turn around.
My issue is that i ordered my laser on april 26, qnd its june 10th and still havent shipped it!!!!!
I got a emaul on the second day saying they arent going to honor the free shupping as promised. And now want an additional 800$
I dont want to cancel my order, but i feel like they are extorting more. Money out of me.
Wow thats not good. Can you email me your order info. I show it to my contact.
Thanks. Email is sent
Getting rid of the 100 what will be a regret at a latter date, The reason why for this is that as you grow the 100 will keep pace with your growth, on the other hand with the growth factor the 60 will need replacing sooner.
Bigger isn’t better😂
If you are going to get rid of one of the machines you should do a giveaway
If i were in a position to do that i would. Unfortunately im not, these machines are my payment for making these videos. I typically keep them and use them for the business but i don’t need two co2 lasers.
Drinking game "issue"😅
Thought I clicked on a Tracy Chapman video by mistake... Love the intro music!!!
Thought I clicked on a Tracy Chapman video by mistake... Love the intro music!!!