American reacts to Drinking in Germany VS America - differences!
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“Wine is four or five times harder than beer” - American beer.
American .... isnt real beer
all i have to think of when hearing american beer is gta's meme about "pisswasser"
Well four or five is wrong but three times more could be true for some red and white wines. Wine usually has 12-14,5% Vol alcohol, so it's almost triple than the alcohol content of beer.
To be fair, I've seen 18% to 20% alcoholic content on wine bottles, and that would be 4 times the normal amount of beer (4.8% to 5%).
@@klamin_original the 4 or 5 times is where i was shocked - like 5% for beer and yeast stops producing alkohol at 15%
5% isnt even strong beer but 15% is strong wine
There are usually 7,5% beers in every supermarket, which makes it only 2x stronger
And heres where it matters: If you drink a bottle of wine, lets say 15%, youd drink around 2 liter beer
Thats still just 4 cans
3 cans of stronger beer
And thats compared to a whole bottle of wine (0,7l)
Its easier to get really drunk on beer than on wine as a teen, cause you wouldnt really "down bottles of wine"
Youd rather get six packs or a backpack of canned beer
"The only way to drink in America is WITHOUT the supervision of your parents." See, this is where it all starts to go wrong. You can´t prevent teens from trying beer, no matter what you as a parent try to believe how good your kids are. They will get in contact with it anyway. At least be with them or near them for supervision.
As if youths would seek parental advisory or supervision when drinking in Germany or anywhere else in Europe. It is about getting drunk and having fun with your friends and peers. That's it. From that we do not develop a more responsible approach to alcohol or other drugs. A 21 year old European probably is just more used to alcohol than a 21 year old American and would get drunk harder due to stronger alcohol habituation - which isn't a good thing. I don't think banning alcohol for minors like in the US is a good approach, it doesn't really work too well anyways but that many European countries have a problem with alcohol can't be denied. It's maybe just not so obvious as you can easily hide your alcohol addiction in an environment where alcohol consumption is the norm.
Agreed. Cultures which consume drugs in a culturally established way tend not to have drug problems with that drug. This holds true for alcohol as well as magic mushrooms.
@@stefanmaier1853 I think the whole "drinking with your parents" (which I think rarely happens, no one gets hammered with his parents) is a result of a different cause: That you can confide in you parents. I had my first beer with my father when I was 15, got really drunk for the first time with friends with 18. But I could tell my parents beforehand that I am going out with friends. I could also tell them where we were going. I also knew if something happens I can call them without repercussions. In the end they had to get me at 2am in the night, since I was too drunk to get home (and that wasn't the last time I had to wake them). Sure, they weren't happy to get woken up in the middle of the night, but they always say it is the better alternative than me sleeping in a ditch somewhere.
But I totally agree with your last sentence. It has gotten way too commonplace to drink. I knew a few people who are basically functional alcoholics, but deny it all the time.
I agree.It goes for many things. From sex to clean You home and do elmentary cooking, when You get Your own home.
@@MuffinSebiI skipped a grade in school so I was always younger that my friends. Many of them celebrated their 18th while I was barely 16. My dad always came to get me afterwards and told me that if I would puke, I would have to sleep in the garage 😂😂😂
To be clear about the German law: 14 is the age of drinking in public under supervision... What you do at home nobody cares.
So, if your dad orders you a beer in a bar when you're 14, that's ok! And yes, you're allowed to be in there.
I tryed my first beer with 9 or 10. And on the Weinachtsmarkt there are even drinkingstands with Glühwein right next to a carousel so the parents can drink theire beer while watching theire kids riding it.
In Canada (at least where I live) there is no drinking age for drinking under supervision. As long as your parents give it to you, it's fine. Your dad can order you a beer, wine, or hard liquor, but the bartender can't serve you directly (to avoid certain liability situations). You actually don't need to be supervised, you just need permission. Your parents can give you a bottle of wine and leave you to it. I was born in Canada, but my parents are Portuguese (from the Azores) where drinking wine with dinner is common. My dad gave me my first beer when I was 3, and I would have one occasionally. When I was 7 my dad finally told me to stop asking and just grab one whenever I wanted. That counts as permission.
In Canada, the legal drinking age is 18 or 19 depending on which province you live in. The average Canadian starts drinking at 14, and starts drinking regularly at 16.
@@theredjar495 is it sad that I am surprised that you were that old when you tried your first sip of beer? XD
@@MrJudgi My son is and he tried a sip of cider, to be fair I thought he'd hate it, but he asked for more, wasn't happening! In the UK a child can drink in a licenced premises with parents from 14 and order beer or wine with a meal from 16, children can drink at home from 5 technically (interestingly though, there appears to be a law forbidding drinking while in charge of a child under 7, which implies the weird situation in which it is technically legal to get your 5 or 6 year old drunk, as long as you don't drink youself!) I don't think this law is enforced though!
The catholic church allows wine from the age of 7 (during and after first communion)
German from Bavaria here. When I was 12 my parents told me now my liver was able to cope with alcohol and I was allowed to drink a sip or two from their beers or wine if I wanted to. Wasn't very fond of it though, because it had a bitter taste.
When I was 16 they ordered Radler for me in the beer garden. It's a mix of beer and lemonade, very popular in Bavaria in summer and because it's a bit sweet I liked it. It got me used to the taste of alcohol.
In my family there were rules about alcohol:
1) alcohol goes with food
2) as soon as you feel tipsy you stop drinking
3) we don't drink to regulate our feelings, but to enjoy the taste of the beverage
4) getting drunk means you don't know how to handle alcohol, hence you're not a grown up yet. Grown-ups know how much they can take
5) hard liquors are only consumed in good company
those are some good rules. i think my parents gave drinking coffee before school more thought than drinking a glass of wine with dinner or a beer on the weekend
I really think those are great rules!
You have some really strict parents
@@relmag1947 not really.
You should check out why Walmart failed in Germany. It's a great story.
Yes, a prime example how to not go into a foreign market.
This could be a topic for a video on its own.
I'll only say The Chants 😂
Ryan what you have to remember is that we Europeans drink BEER not horsepiss. So our BEER has normally 5+% Alcohol content while Wine has normally 12% Alcohol content . So the difference is not to big, esp. when you take in consideration that Wine normally comes in 1/4 liter glasses not filled to the top while beer comes usually in 1/2 liter mugs
25 cl glass of wine, not filled to the rim, should be right. In Belgium and the Netherlands a glass of wine is 15 cl. (You get 5 glasses out of a bottle.)
Beer in Belgium is either 25 cl or 33 cl. Very few exceptions.
@@stevenvanhulle7242 Belguim Beer is Heresy
If you're a 16 year old german kid, your just gonna buy a bottle of the cheapest wine and chug it straight outta the bottle if you wanna get drunk
I'm German and my father was born in 1919 (I had old parents). He went through the whole WWII. What got them through the war was alcohol, cigarettes and drugs. If you're in a constant life threatening situation you don't care if you will die at 82 or 83 because of cigarettes, it's far away, and cigarettes reduce hunger, make you more alert and distract from ugly smells. My father never was an alcoholic, but alcohol belonged to his life, just as smoking did, and his friends who also served in WWII all drank and smoked. So I grew up thinking this was normal. I did drink a lot of alcohol in my early 20s to deal with emotions. Up to a point when I realized I won't do that anymore, and I stopped. I'm not sure if there were any regulations about drinking age in Germany 40 years ago, and it wouldn't have mattered as there was always wine in our house and my father had a bar so he could mix cocktails. I never took advantage as a kid and now that I'm 58, I sometimes have a glass of red wine with lunch but that's it. Making stuff unavailable creates desire. Personally I think 16 is too young for a drivers license and 21 is too old for alcohol.
Everyone smoked back in the days...please look at TV in the 70s-90s were everyone was smoking ...that was also commen for the US which was not affected with the exception of Pearl Harbour
Same here. I got drunk every weekend from sixteen to twenty but then I started working as a nurse saw all the alcoholic and saw what it does with your brain and I stopped it.
I still get drunk, but just a couple time's of the year.
My grandfather told me so much about the horrible things on WW2 and what they did but he didn't smoke or drink at all.
Tbf, he got hit by a phosphor grenade (from a ship cannon), and his complete body had burning wounds maybe that's why. I will never forget when he told me the Story. He was leading on a 8,8 cm flak and they (the complete battery) destroyed a destroyer in Africa the hms was damn pissed about it and fired at them.
I was between 10-12 years old and at this time he was a hero for me later I realized what we did at ww2 and I think a bit different.
On the other hand he always learned me that war and what we did should never happen again.
We also had a bar that i always had access to with every type of drink and my parents let me try a sip on holidays since i was about 12.
i never sneaked anything from the bar cabinet because i knew how bad it tastes and to this day have never been drunk in my life.
Sometimes i ask my parents if i can have an unopened bottle to give as a gift to friends, eventhough they wouldnt notice anything missing anyway unless its mega expensive lol but its nice to ask and make sure
@@avr7120 Exactly. I would never have tasted some of the bar bottles on my own. I wasn't allowed to because it was not for me, and as you say, alcohol doesn't taste well for kids. I remember once I was curious about the Blue Curacao, and my father gave me a tiny sip so I could taste it. I didn't like it :)
I have pretty much the same experience. My father Was born 1912 and alcohol, mire exactly apple wine was the only drink we always had in excess. I could drink either water from the tap or applewine. It was so disgusting that I still do not drink alcohol.
It never made sense to me in the States, that you are allowed to join the military when you are 17 with parental consent, or when you are 18, they trust you with a weapon and ammuition, and you are old enough to go to war, come back crippled, or in a body bag, but not old enough to drink or smoke.
But here in Germany it's also weird if you think about it. You can basically buy a hard drug legally before you are allowed to buy specific movies or video games.
Well, better they don't drink when they get a weapon 😄
In Germany you can go to the Bundeswehr (it's like the army) at age 17 with your parents signature
@@ameliebottin-tw7hg ja abet das macht keiner. Bundeswehr kann man nicht mit der US Army vergleichen. Beim Bund kann man ja auch eine Ausbildung machen.
@@SouthernBelle888 ja das stimmt ich habe aber nur Armee gesagt und nicht US Army sorry falls das falsch rüber kam
As a german from the countryside i have to say he is right about people drinking earlier over here. Also if you have a drivers licence for motorcycles, which you can get with 16, most stores dont actually check your age and you can buy hard liquor. Still illegal but most just dont properly check it. And on village parties like "schützenfest" or similar occasions they just generally dont care.
Some of my classmates (age 15) went into the supermarket during schoolbreake and got back with some bottles of beer. I wasn't with them, but i could iamgine the cashier didn't even care
@@theredjar495I was 15 when we made beer in school. Or rather some sort of banana mead, to display the process of fermentation. And obviously when it was done, we pretty much shared it among the class.
@HappyBeezerStudios In School we made Schnaps in chemistry but we werent allowed to Drink it becaus we didn't got rid of the methanol. But brewing beer is way cooler
:D bist du emsländer? just asking for a friend.... :P
@@DubSoldier716 nope, Rheinland ^^
In school we had a few american exchange students. They were quite eager to go out and drink. They couldn't believe no one bat an eye with at a bunch of 16year olds drunk in public.
Interestingly, after a couple drinks the language barriers disappeared :D
As for the drinking age in Germany, they forgot to mention that the "parental supervision" clause only applies for the likes of beer and wine, but not hard liquor. The minimum age in this case is a strict 18.
HOWEVER, all of these limits, strictly speaking, apply for drinking alcohol in public. You can only buy or consume alcohol from 16 or 18 - but there is no minimum age for drinking in private. Parents do not break the law if they allow their 10 year old kid to drink a glass of beer, or even a sip of whisky, in their own home.
That said, parents are still responsible for their children and absence of a strict prohibition doesn't mean that parents wouldn't get in trouble with the youth welfare office (Jugendamt) for granting their kids too easy access to alcohol.
perfectly explained
3:48 actually the smoking age in Germany rose too. Used to be 16, now is 18.
BTW, in New Zealand, they are now rising it every year by a year - meaning that people who are currently under a certain age, will never be able to legally buy cigarettes in NZ.
Really, that's actually not a bad idea, every country should do so
The UK has also just announced a new law which will ban anyone born from 2009 or younger from ever buying fags, which will come into effect in the very near future.
@@abram6282 why is this a good idea? oh, when you can't buy it you won't use it? forgot about prohibition here in the US? i wonder where crack and heroin addicts get their fix from? no advertisements, no stores to buy it from, if you get caught you may go to prison? still they buy it. you are just setting the stage for criminalizing something that does not need to be illegal in any way.
@@abram6282You cant prevent people from using any type of drugs, thats a natural thing to do for high intelligent animals, you can only regulate it to make it saver.
If we go and prohibit smoking on the basis that it’s unhealthy that raises some issues.
1. You are primarily harming yourself, yet the state thinks he has jurisdiction. That opens a can of worms.
2. What about sugar? Or sedentary lifestyle? Should the state also be allowed to limit your sugar intake or mandate physical activity?
A diet rich in sugar will kill you far more reliably than smoking. It causes chronic inflammation which is a cause of a great many ailments.
I learned to drink at the age of 13, because I was physically an adult, according to my grandmother (I lived near the German border within the Netherlands). My grandmother taught me to drink beer, which I did not like, so she poured some grenadine (syrup) in it to make it sweeter. I also had to drink at least one glass of wine when there was a big family diner (like on a party or a wedding). I was taught to never drink more as 2 glasses a day of either beer or wine. Spirits or liquors were not allowed. Also mixed drinks, like alcoholic cocktails, were forbidden. I never developed a drinking habit. When my son was 15 I allowed him to drink 2 glasses of beer or 2 glasses of wine as well. No spirits, no liquors, no cocktails. It worked very well. When he went out, he did not feel like a baby when the other men were drinking, and it also learned him to keep a limit. And he could also have some wine with his diner.
Absolutely the rational approach to this topic! Set limits, don't mix drinks, nothing unnatural (like distilled stuff or mixed drinks)!
I'm pretty old now and drink perhaps more than the average but follow these rules and have a fast each year of some weeks - i guess it is good for my liver and gives me the security that i can stop drinking whenever i want.
By the way - beer with some syrup is a very traditional drink in the area around Berlin. It is even served in pubs and so on... It is called Berliner Weisse, and they even brew beer which fits really well with the syrup.
That, dear folks, is a responsible parent! Not damning something, but teaching moderation and giving their offspring and informed opinion and (possibly) as spine. :-)
Actually, all the age limitations for alcohol ONLY apply to drinking in public.
If your parents would decide to allow you drinking while on their own property they could allow it their 12 or 10 year old child.
Only as long as no one is seeing it. If someone knows about it , the parents will loose their child. Child protection.
Forging a German identity card is forgery and can be punished with up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine. In addition, it is not exactly easy to forge an ID card, as the security features of the card are very high and it also has an expiry date.
There is the so-called "Apfelsaft-Paragraph". It states that there has to be at least 1 non alcoholic drink for the same price as the cheapest alcoholic drink!
BGBl. I S. 3584
Fun fact... a fair number of pubs go for the (perfectly legal) loophole of making that one cheap non-alc drink something that pretty much nobody would ever think to order at a bar, so they don't lose out on the profit for water, cola, and other softdrinks.
*Milk* is a popular choice.
Hello from Germany!
My parents handled it in such a way that I was allowed to try my parents' beer when I was a toddler. Since it was far too bitter for me, it was a daunting experience, which is why I didn't want to try it again.
At the age of 11, a friend of my parents gave me, with my parents' permission, a small bottle (about 4 cl) of Kümmerling (that's a schnapps, I don't know if it's available in America). I drank it off and on for several weeks.
When I was 12, I drank a Jägermeister in a bar about three or four times, and when I turned 13 and was confirmed, I was allowed to drink more alcohol in public since I was also allowed to take part in the Lord's Supper in church . But only to a limited extent and not alone, only in the presence of my parents or other trustworthy adults. However, not often, so maybe once a month a beer or Radler (mixture of beer and lemonade).
Now I'm 14 and have almost no interest in alcohol anymore because I've already tried it and it's not that great.
I know it's pretty young, but my classmates are just starting to drink in secret and I don't join in with that kind of thing because I know what it tastes like, what it does to me and how much I can drink so that I can doesn't go bad the next day. I think my parents' method is better than the method used by other parents whose children are now waking up in someone else's bathtub in their own vomit.
If I have made any spelling or grammatical errors, please correct me as I am learning English and want to do it as well as possible.
We went out to clubs/bars at the age of 14-15 and no one bat an eye. A sip of a drink at a family party is nothing to worry about neither.
It's good that the parents allowed us to drink. One mother was a bartender and allowed us to have parties at her house as long as we didn't touch her personal drinks. She told us that she knows we would be drinking either way but by staying at her house we would be rather safe. She obviously knew how to handle drunks, we didn't have to walk around at night and no one gets lost/forgotten once they had too much.
She taught us how to handle alcohol the right way, even if there were mishaps some times.
German here, back in the day it was totally normal for us to get Klosterfrau Melissengeist when we were sick. But ontopic I would be happier if alcohol was substituted with Cannabis.
Fellow German here: I remember this too as a kid when sick. My grampa always said: "Wenn´vorne juckt und hinten beißt: Nimm Klosterfrau Melissengeist". :-D
Klosterfrau Melissengeist? Your parents must not have loved you very much. ;-)
Here it was Meditonsin for anything resembling a cold.
I remember the average 'Hustensaft' from my childhood having a higher alcoholic content than Vodka. And i was drinking it ever since i can remember when sick, which goes back to Kindergarten age.
In Bristol Uk during the 1970s, at 14 and 15 years of age, I used to regularly go to the pub with my mates on a Saturday night and drink 4 or 5 pints of beer, the landlord and the adult drinkers in the pub obviously knew we were under age………sometimes, the police would pop their heads around the door and notice us but they never questioned us, I think they thought ‘well at least they’re not wandering the streets causing trouble’! 😊
And then drove home.
Carefully.
Avoiding known police checkpoints.
I think it is quite common (in Germany) or at least was when I was a kid, that on family occasions, birthdays or on New Years Eve you could get a small glass of Prosecco with orange juice or a small bit of beer. Everybody was totally fine about that.
My parents even let me taste a little nip of heavy red wine with me ending up finding wine pretty disgusting when I was around 8 years old. Never asked them again to also have a glass of this stuff until I was old enough to have a taste on my own.
I think the problem with the drinking age is kids or young people intentionally getting drunk instead of just enjoy 1-2 glasses of beer.
He said "koozie" that way, because it's something we do not have in Germany. Like the red solo cups, it's something uniquely american.
When I was like 13-14 I was allowed to drink a small glass of wine (about a shot glas of size) during certain meals at dinner (like pizza or venison). My parents wanted me to know how alcohol tastes and that it is not "forbidden" so I am not motivated to try it in secret. I did not like beer (usually 5%, but can go up to almost 10%) until I was 16 and even then it was just mixed beers which have about 2.5% until I went to university at 19. At 17 my father allowed me to lick a finger tip of hard liquor, so I could safely try it out. The portions of wine i was allowed to drink during dinner grew larger at 15 but even when I was legally old enough to drink everything my parents asked me if I was sure I wanted more.
I grew up learning to be responsible with alcoholic drinks which never resulted in me having any problems.
And a drinking age of 16 also results in us getting our drinking experience before we get our driver's license at 18.
In public transport be aware of signs regarding drinking alcohol. Quite a few forbid drinking alcohol and you risk getting kicked out with a beer in your hand.
We as children here in Czech republic were recieving every Sunday for Sunday lunch 2 dcl of beer when we were with our granny. As she was saying beer is more healthy than coke. And if you have very meaty and heavy Czech/Bohemian meal, which is very simmilar and some dishes are the same as in german cuisine, its really better variant.
A bohemian meal and a tasty czech beer followed by one or two Becherovka and you are close to heaven!
@@georgsiefkes593 agree except Becherovka...i hate that pensioners drink :D
To the scene where the sixteen year old accompanied by a bunch of 15 year old friends we have to remember that there are laws about (sorry, I'm german, so maybe don't know the correct words) assistance of crime, so when the seller can assume the 16 year old, who is legally allowed to buy alcohol, is obviously buying it to hand it to younger people he has to deny or he can be charged if something happens (like a 15 year old ending in hospital because of alcohol intoxication)
doesn't need to be a law. Try to convince one of those stupid supermarkets with age restricted RedBull to sell it. You are allowed to buy energy without a minimal age, but the store isn't required to be the one that sells it to you. Same for beer/vodka/wine, even a bag of chips if they decide to do so.
Edit: here, the reason is what you said ofc. I just wanted to add the context that conservative managers can be an even bigger problem for teens
“Drink Markets” are mostly for bulk purchases. If you need like 15 cases of beer for a big party, a grocery store isn’t going to have that much, while a drink market will have like 50 cases in stock.
Usually they also offer a higher variety of brands and have shopping carts optimized for transporting crates.
'Legally' I think it is 5 in UK. 14 in a pub with a meal and I think with your parents and 18 normally. For some reason the US demonises alcohol but seem to 'accept' drugs more.
By drinking with, say, your parents at an early age you quickly lose the 'forbidden fruit' mindset. By the time I could legally buy alcohol there was no novelty to it because I had been drinking for what 8-10 years. And this seems to be the same across Europe we learn how to drink responsibly.
I believe you're right. 3 centuries ago you drank milk or beer because water gave you typhoid.
uhm... 5?
@@marinellovragovic1207 maybe it was 5 o'clock (or at least that's what they thought) in the UK when they wrote it? 😜
😂Oh yes. I remember that 16/17 parties always ending up in Sodom and Gomorrha… 🤣
But hell, we had fun! 😆
As someone from a small town I also started drinking hard liquors around 13, the first time I sneaked a beer from a friends dad was 11. when I was 12, my friends mom actually bought us beer without us asking for it. However, at 16/17 a lot of the kids around me stopped caring much for drinking except for an occasional night out.
We had Walmart in Germany years ago, but they failed and gave up. It's kind of a joke in Germany nowadays. You should look it up😂
I'm 62 now, but I remember my brothers and I being allowed to take sips of my parents and grandparents beer or wine. My first memory of that is around 5 or 6. None of us turned into alcoholics. In fact, apart from a radler now and again, I don't like the taste of alcohol at all. My one brother has a glass of wine on occasion, and my other brother drinks only apple juice😂
Some restaurants here are sponsored by breweries and in return they have to sell a certain amount of their beer. That's why beer sometimes is so cheap.
I often like your videos before I watch them too, Ryan. Because you're always very friendly, and down to earth - and even your greeting makes me feel better! You seem to know a lot about wine... so, did it get YOU into trouble, perchance?
Latvian here, most of Europe has a drinking age of 18, but almost no one cares about having a beer with your dad before the age of 18.
Edit:
Normal beer has 5% alcohol, wine is 10-14% alcohol
Isn´t that some kind of "father and son thing" when your dad offers you a beer at like age 14, 15, 16, the dad´s way to tell you you´re a man now.
Pro Mille not pro Cent...&
@@katharinapaulina2685 5% would be better xD
@@echtertill it is percent. 1L of beer has 5% alcohol or 50mL of pure ethanol
@@katharinapaulina2685 No, it's percentage. Percent volume to be precise.
16:52 It's an option called "aero Shake" (I think) (In German it's called "Fenstertitelleiste schütteln" (Very cool compound word right there)). You can disable it in Settings - System - Multitasking.
First time i drank alcohol and also my first blackout was at the age of 11. My brother was born and my father did celebrate it with neighbours. No Beer involved ... only the hard 40+% stuff.
First lesson learned:"Know your limit"
EDIT: Correction %o to %
As an Austrian I was extremly weird out when I went to Miami for vacations and people were hiding their beer bottles under the sand 😅
Thanks for making longer videos!
I started drinking semi-regularly at 16 and smoking at 17, but the idea of only being allowed from 21 onward seems INSANE to me 😅
18:20 It is a Law called the "Apfelsaft-Paragaph" translated means "Apple juice paragraph" this Paragraph states that there has to be at least one alcohol free drink on the menu that costs the same or less then the cheapest alcohol drink.
So the restaurant owner who wants to fulfill his beer supply contract can choose to put sausage water on the menu at the price of the cheapest alcoholic drink?
I'm just another German guy and i really like your vids! Very interesting to hear about ur point of view. Keep on doing what you do :)
11:11 - There used to be Walmart in Germany, but only for a short time because for certain reasons no one wanted to shop there.
That lawn area next to the river Rhine shown at the end of the video really is a great place hang out and to chill. Also, you get nice beer there, too.
I had so much fun, thanks:)
It also reminded me of the blessed day when I was last asked to show identity because of buying beer (I was 36 and happy😂)
In the UK the drinking age is 18 if you’re by yourself, 16 if you’re under adult supervision with a ‘substantial’ meal, and 5 if you’re at home. It’s quite common here (at least within upper/upper-middle class circles) for teenagers to have a single glass of wine with Christmas dinner from about 11-12ish to get you used to the taste of alcohol and demystify it a bit.
At my youngest son's senior school in England, sixth formers (aged 16/17/18) get weekly invites to "take sherry" with their housemasters. This generally means wine and snacks on Friday evenings.
How posh are you?!
I bought strong beer at the supermarket today and it was 69 cents for 0,5 liters 👍🏻 7,9%
That's unusual, as strong beers mostly are also expensive brands...
Most 16 year olds aren't into wine that much.
I started switching to drinking dry red wine at parties at like 17-18y/o, to not get too drunk during the course of the party and so that no one nicks my drinks (as most teenagers don’t like dry red wine :D )
Oh doch
I have absolutely no idea about that. The homeopathic sh1t for my allergies had 20% and I somehow always liked the taste.
My taste is weird anyway, liked alcohol-free beer (Pils) since kindergarten and still hated the normal ones until I was 17 (where I was happily drinking rum and whiskey).
Stopped questioning it, my taste buds are confusing. Good red wine is delicious, but the affordable ones are often bad
Tetrapack Wein or Cola Korn is popular even if Cola Korn is Illegal.
But Hamburg is different
Depends on the area you are. If you go to areas where a lot of wine is produced you'll find a lot more young people drinking wine. Especially white whine or Weinschorrle in summer.
Wine isn't 4-5 times harder than beer, a decent beer is around 5-7% alcohol, more or less like cider, wine is around 12-15%. So it's twice as alcoholic as a decent beer. Besides, generally with "hard liquor we mean something that has been distilled (like whisky or cognac) or an alcoholic infusion (like amaretto or limoncello). Not a fermented alcoholic drink like wine, cider, or beer.
The little bottles at the checkout are getting less and less though. I buy one every year for Christmas baking (so I don't have a big bottle sitting on my shelf for years and years), but last year I had trouble finding one. Especially in the more expensive supermarkets they got rid of the small bottles
Ah 3 years ago... was totaly confused by their prices. In my teens we owned a Getränkelieferservice (Beverage delivery service) and on the weekends I used my tips to grab a crate of beer for me and my friends to the lake where we enjoyed the sun while getting "wasted". This is something completely normal in germany and it makes me a bit sad that getting addictive substances so early is a thing here. We had some village festivals where a lot of teens drank and every year at least one teen was brought into the hospital. I can't tell if it's good or bad to drink at that young ages but for me personaly it was a realy bad thing.
The first beer i had was with 13. The first cigarette with 12 😂
greetings from nrw
That class trip thing with one person who was already 16 did work for us so that also depends on the store
A very German alkohol career: I was raised in a wine growing region in Germany ( Bingen am Rhein). The first time I had a few sips of wine was at 5 or 6. The first time I had a bit too much wine was at 14 at the local wine festival, because I was thirsty after my Judo exercises and the wine tasted too good. I had some troubles with my bicycle on my way home., but my parents didn't notice anything. The 1st time I was really drunk, was on a school trip to Moscow, Wladimir and Susdal, USSR in 1969 at age of 16 when I drank lots of crimea champagne and wodka. It was so cheap for us western youngsters at the time. The last years at school. we all drank regularly. As a soldier at 18 in 1971 I was stationed in Munich, Bavaria and beer became my favourite drink. Since then I drink about 2 or 3 litres beer a day when it's hot and I do my workouts. Sometimes a bit more. The longest time I had no alkohol was 3 weeks on a trip from Teheran, Iran to Kabul, Afghanistan. On my trips to the US I never drank alkohol. The beer wasn't my kind of choice. I waited till I reached Mexico. Now I'm 71 and still alive. :-) The last time I had too much alkohol was 39 years ago.
9:57 in Germany, drivers under 21 are subject to a strict alcohol prohibition. .00 per cent of blood alcohol concentration, IOW if alcohol is detected in your blood and you drove a car, you are committing an offense. The normal limit is .05. Which is of course still low compared to the limit in the US, which is at .08.
Well I come from a small town in the southern part of Germany so beer obviously was the alcohol of our choice and the yearly festival of our football (we call it football because it is played with the feet and not because the ball is one foot long) club was one if not the highlight of the year. So in the year I turned 16 I drank too much and got what we call "An fetz'n Rausch" but this was the only time I completely lost control about myself. This horrible experience told me my limits in drinking and I never lost control again. I still drink from time to time but after 3 or 4 Mass (Liter) of beer I could always stop.
I believe it is better to have this experience earlier close to home instead of waiting for the college when you are far from home without the social structures around you.
The story he was telling basically boils down to the fact that his buddy was 16 and we don't have a limit how much alcohol you can buy at once. You could go to a Getränkemarkt and buy 10 crates and 5 kegs and there is nothing that prevents them from selling it to you. But the guy at the gas station saw through their plan to have the 16 yo buy beers for the 15 yo buddies.
Yes, that would be it. And he probably wanted to keep himself from being held liable if something happens. The law forbids them to sell to or even allow 15 yo's to consume alcohol in public without a legal guardian (§ 9 JuSchG) and because it was way too obvious that the 16yo would share with his friends, the guy would have indirectly allowed them to get their hands on alcohol.
What you said there about learning to drink responsibly earlier are exactly my thoughts. Especially learning how your body reacts to alcohol BEFORE getting used to driving a car is huge.
(That's also an advantage of the split age thing between soft alcohol like beer and wine and hard drinks/spirits btw).
You can get totally shitfaced at 16 and crawl home or into the bus, you'll learn from it and since you aren't able to drive anyways you don't get drunk behind the wheel just out of habit.
For me the idea of first getting used to driving, owning a car and also being allowed to own guns and only THEN (officially) bringing alcohol into the mix is horrifying.
11:10 : We had Walmart, but they failed miserably and after loosing around a billion dollar in our market, they fucked off.
In Hesse(Germany) we learned how to make apple wine in the 3rd grade. And not theoretically, but practically.
So we were not allowed to drink it... but sure we did.
In the US wine maybe contains 5 times more alcohol than beer, but just because what american call beer, we in germany call lemonade.
I am German and spent a year as a teenager in Louisiana.
At the end of that year my dad came to pick me up. We went to a Supermarket to get a couple of things and he wanted to try one US beer. So we got a single can and tried to check that out. At the checkout they asked to see my ID too, we were like " well, I'm 16, but the beer isn't for me but for my dad". They wouldn't let us buy it. So I went out to the car with our groceries and my dad went back in. They had already called the manager to the checkout when he arrived there and declared that since he'd been there with a minor today he couldn't get the beer and he'd have to come back the next day.
We then drove to a liquor store, my dad dropped me off at the corner before driving through the liquor store's drive through...
I don't think this was common, might've been due to the area being conservative and/or us seeming too "different" to the area... but yea I will never forget that..
Oh also: my dad and I then went on a road trip through the US for 6 weeks. A couple weeks later, I am not sure where we were, arrived quite late at a campsite where we were gonna spent one night. Since we hadn't had dinner yet, we went looking for some food. It was a very small town, nothing was open - except for one bar. They looked like they might at least have sandwiches. However, I was not allowed to enter. At the same time in Germany I would've been allowed to sit on the bar by myself ordering a beer. (There are some exceptions, there are some bars that are 18+, but only few)
Imagine you become parents with like 18-19 in US and even tho you have children, youre not allowed to buy alkohol and cannot celebrate :D
Lol, watching this video learned me that shaking a window minimize everything. I had to try it out.
And to stay with the topic "Shaken, not stirred" :D
@Ryan Wass :
What you thought to be graves is a fountain near the cologne Dom (Cathedral) next to the river. It is a sculpture with cubes shaped like buildings (I guess) on islands in between creeks.
When I was younger I used to sit there in the summer with a drink and watching the mothers trying to get their child… cause they often slip on the slippery islands ad fall into the water. Funny to watch if you are drunk😂
Most people officially drink for the first time at the age of 14 for youth consecration or conformation. These celebrations mark the entry into adulthood. And so it's completely normal to drink some alcohol on such occasions. However, this is not an everyday occurrence, but rather exceptions.
Btw, i just learnd that shaking a window puts you to the Desktop... didn't knew that... so props for that educational Video.👍
from driving test to alcohol…makes sense😂
if you compare prices, be aware of that in Germany VAT is already included in the price tag.
I met a norwegian on the Wacken festival once. He told me, they drive over to sweden, to buy cheap alcohol. The swedens drive over to denmark to get cheap alcohol. And finally, the danes drive over to germany to get cheap alcohol. I think it was something like a cheap bootle of gin is 6,50€ here (just googled it) vs over a 100€ in norway (but could not verify that). And we always wondered why they are getting so insanely drunk all the time, when they hit germany ...
In Germany you can get behind bars for using a fake ID. Falsification of documents or the use of any false document with the intent to deceive about any information is a misdemeanor and punishable with imprisonment of not more than 5 years or a fine. (§267 StGB)
When we went to go partying, we always had a “Wegebier, Wegewein, etc” which is just beer, wine or whatever you want to drink on the way to the club… or just a “Weinfest” or “Cocktailfest” in the city…
With the alcohol age under supervision, this dude made the point, that he isn't from bavaria.
Here it was an old tradition, that i been introduced to, that you've been given your first shot of schnaps with 12!
It isn't granted by your parents, rather has to be granted by the grandparents, after having the communion in the catholic church.
From there on, every alcoholic drink has to be granted by the grands at public (never at home) family meetings, christmas dinners or birthday dinners and just one schnaps or beer!
The time you reach the age of 15, you reach a turning point.
The grandparents stopped granting it and you took responsibility about that habit of how much one or 2, what to choose, schnaps or beer??
In the case of being partying the so called "supervision" went into a state of somehow ignoring, as long as you don't did too much, being out on a "Kirwa" (as example).
And they mostly didn't even cared, if you drank a little schnaps (5 shots or so) or a few beers, when it was every 2nd or 3rd weekend, because they grown up nearly the same.
But.....!!!
When you did too much, then the next day you're in the middle of laughter.
"M: Look at your boy, dad. Kind of funny, huh? You're not feeling good, son? Told you all the time to stop, when it's to much, but your haven't been listening. There you have the misery"
"D: Son do you have a strong headache? Your stomach ain't good? Need to throw up again? Well that's what you get, when it's too much!!! Get you're sh.. together, there is still work to do and being in a hangover is no excuse! You have 2 hours, then the timber calls!"
And what should i say, just being active or doing heavy work is the best way to get that stuff out of your body.
There where also laws of how long you can stay out, being controlled by the police, called the "Jugendschutzgesetz"
14yrs 22pm
15yrs up to 23pm
16yrs 0am
18 as long as you will
I had enough of drinking extreme amounts every second to third weekend, when i was 19-20 and stopped going partying and festivals with 24, because there are more important things to do and the clientel was always the same people, the same lame discussions and the same stupid "Wannabe-fight" over stupid stuff.
Maybe 3-4 times over a year nowadays, i get into the flow with friends and drink a little too much.
In young ages my body, no matter how much, recovered after a day. Today the hangovers can last up to 3 days by drinking a third of what i once was doing on parties.
I am getting old! XD
I grown up in a time, where my granddad send me to bring him a pack of cigarettes (Ernte 23), when i was 6 years old, for 2 DM at the vending machine.
A time, where even liquor and cigarettes where legal with 16, where smoking was the most normal thing to see in restaurants and so on.
The people where more free in the 90's.
I've been drinking beer regularly with my father and/or my mother since the age of 12. We go out on a family dinner, i was allowed to drink 1 regular beer... 500ml... Dinner at home - again 1 beer no problem. More if it was some special occasion and i could handle it w/o embarrassing them and myself. When i turned 15 they allowed me to drink as many beers as i like as long i don't get drunk. Going out with friends they knew we would drink something and the only rule was "just don't get back home drunk. If you get drunk, first sober and then come back home". This really helped me find and understand my limits and only 2 times i my life have i crossed it knowing well i was about to get completely wasted. With wine and hard liquor they never imposed any limits, but i was never that big on wine or hard spirits. And this wasn't isolated just to me. My entire generation grew up like that. So when we were finally old enough to drink, it wasn't something exciting, extravagant or special. It was just a social thing and everyone knew when they should stop and continue with the clear intention of just going completely overboard.
5:15 She's correct. Most states allow drinking under the age of 21. Of course the exact regulations vary by state.
Here's a breakdown of the individual laws I found on the American Addiction Center website:
- Possession of alcohol allowed by minors for a “family exception” in 29 states (which may or may not have specific location restrictions as well): Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.
- Possession of alcohol by minors allowed with specific location restrictions in 5 states: Hawaii, Nebraska, Minnesota, South Carolina, and New Jersey.
- Consumption of alcohol permitted for a “family exception” in 19 states (with or without specific location restrictions): Washington, Wyoming, Montana, South Dakota, Texas, Wisconsin, Ohio, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Alaska, Oregon, Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, Illinois, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Maine.
- Consumption of alcohol by minors not explicitly prohibited in 14 states: California, Nevada, New Mexico, Missouri, Arkansas, Mississippi, Georgia, Kentucky, Florida, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, New York, and Massachusetts.
- Consumption of alcohol by minors allowed with specific location restrictions in two states: New Jersey and Nebraska.
- Internal possession laws prohibiting minors from having alcohol in their bodies at all in nine states: Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri, North Carolina, South Carolina, New Hampshire, and Michigan.
- Family members able to furnish a minor with alcohol in 31 states: Washington, Oregon, Nevada, Hawaii, Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Missouri, Arkansas, Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Louisiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, Ohio, West Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Maine.
- Location restrictions when family members furnish minors with alcohol in 12 states: Oregon, Alaska, New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Iowa, Georgia, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and Maine.
On top of that it seems that there are no federal laws covering the Native American reservations.
On a side note - your assumptions about the amount of alcohol in beer and wine is not really accurate.
Unfortified wines range from 5.5 % to 16 %, with an average of 11.6 %. Fortified wines range from 15.5% to 25% ABV, with an average of 18%.
Beer on the other hand averages at 5 %, however strong beers like Faxe (10 %) do exist. The strongest beer in the world, called Snake Venom, has a massive amount of alcohol at 67.5 %. The strongest wine I found had 26 %. So yes, on average wine has more alcohol than beer, but by a much smaller margin than you assumed and it also massively depends on the exact beer /wine in question.
yesterday was carnival in cologne and some cities - so you would not just find open alcohol-bottles on cars (or trucks), hard liquor was handed down to the visitors and also drunk.. in public... in front of kids (not by kids) but the crowd got pleny of sweets thrown towards them. If you ever visit germany - consider if it's 11th of 11 (at 11:11am) to check out cologne, duesseldorf or some west-german city.
Fun fact: In germany you could openly drink some beers with your friends as 16 year olds in front of a police station and it would be totally legal :D
I remember my first time i got drunk , it was on my 15 birthday , wich was also a day befor easter , in germany we have a tradition to a barnfire , and a good portion of the town meat up that day , with music and beer , my father was there to but i met him later when i was allready a bit lit , he was laughing ,took me aside ordered two beer and we had a talk (not about drinking) , it was almost like his way to say your one of the grownups now ,
Yes! Finally! I was waiting for this one! 😂
The story about how they didnt sell the 16yo alcohol for the 15 year olds is actually exacly how youre supposed to handle situations like that. As a cashier youre legally obligated to make sure its not for other minors. So if you got the assumtion someone is buying it for others you legally have to refuse to sell the alcohol.
Yea putting your Beer in a paper bag is so funny 4 me feels like my lil nephew with closed eyes and hands over them saying you cant See me 😂 everybody knows is alc stuff anyway
i actualy know it as you can drink beer with 12 if parents allow it. in reality do people not really care as long as supervision is there and it turns more to a family matter than a law matter. the only time i ever had contact with alcohol was 6 even if it was just the foam, simply because i wanted to know what my mother was drinking
"I could never imagine a 16 yo drinking..." We of course could never imagine a 16 yo child driving a car in traffic...
in Würtburg is a wine bridge over the river where they serve you wine or you can bring your own, so water is always good to drink
i jsut saw the thumbnail and imma say cheers right away as i open a beer. greetings from stuttgart! :D
For the parental supervision: This only applies to restaurants and bars. Nobody cares what you do in private unless it's considered harmful to the child which most ppl would agree means letting children become drunk or have them drink regularly.
Most teens in Germany will have their first experiences around the age of 14, especially in the more rural areas. However, clubs are usually 18+ though some clubs will allow 16+ until midnight. So most teens won't go out to bars or something but drink at home or at open air parties / community events.
On public drinking: While you're allowed to drink anywhere you want cities CAN regulate certain hours or spaces where drinking is prohibited. This usually means you can't drink out of glass bottles or cups since they could be used as potential weapons. It's very uncommon though.
A funny thing is, that they often don‘t even ask you for your license in Germany. I am 14 and a few weeks ago I was walking into the Getränkemarkt, so basically the place where they sell all drinks, and casually grabbed a redbull as I always do and then also took a Radler (50% beer, 50% lemonade) to test, if they would ask me for my license, but when I put the RedBull and the Radler on the counter, the cashier didn‘t even really look at me, he just scanned it and I gave him the money, so now I can buy beer. Probably gonna try it with hard liquor too, since many ppl told me I look like 19
in germany we have a brand of beer called "0.5". a can with 500 ml (~1 pint) costs like 70 ct
I'm from Austria and at home I was occasionally allowed to drink a little with the adults for like multiple years before I was 16. you can definitely argue about how good that is if you feel like it, but all of my first experiences with alcohol were in a controlled and safe environment, with my parents
With my parents I was allowed to drink champagne at the new years parties since I was 8 or 9, no problem. Beer was ok from 14 yrs. Not getting wasted of course LOL - (Germany)
I was born in 1963. Back then, it was pretty normal for small children to drink the foam off their father's beer at "Abendbrot" (dinner). We always slept through the night afterwards. Win-Win.
I was a baby when I got my first taste of beer. My mother put my pacifier into her beer because the taste of beer calmed me down. And then was my grandmother: She allowed me to sip from her glass or gave me a "Stamperl" (a very small glass like a shot) filled with beer. This was around Kindergarten age. My relatives in Upper Austria made their own Most (cider) and as long as it was still "sweet" it was given to the children. In elementary school I was allowed to drink one or two glasses of Sparkling wine on New Year's Eve. The first time I was really drunk was with 14. The grandparents of a friend allowed us to taste the harder stuff. And there was a church activity with access to beer. 🍺😁
As someone who grew up in a very small town I think I tried my first beer when I was 11 years old and thats actually old. At the age of 13 and 14 some kids and me went to the forest or even in the next city in a park to drink. There was beer, wine, vodka, malibu and so on. We got it from our parents (mostly stolen), from friends or siblings that were older than 18 or we knew a shop that wouldn't control any age. Nobody faked a license or anything like it because it's very difficult, highly punished (I think the highest is 2 years of prison) and we simply had easier ways like I said.
We also have a saying in German that means no beer before four. And that's not related to the time of day 😂
Drinking laws are similar in the UK - 18 is standard age; 16+ you can have a drink with a meal in a restaurant if accompanied by an adult; no issue giving alcohol to your children at home as long as they're over 5+.
I had to Google to find out what a 'koosie/koozie' is. Not a word I'd encountered.
The most interesting thing I took away from this video is that shaking a window minimizes others... And I agree. It's weird. I've never thought about shaking a window to get to desktop. I use Aero Peek
That feature has been in MacOS for ages.
25 years ago nobody gave 2 cents about your age when you bought alcohol. We used to buy vodka and Jägermeister and that kind of stuff as well as cigarettes in supermarkets at the age of 14.
Funny story for me when in Austria our school had an exchange week with a US school. We were all 16 and made a bondfire at a river to socialize and get to know each other. Every US boy there wanted to become president and since we were drinking alcohol they all got very nervous as the night goes on and they kept asking us what would happen, if the police would come by. We answered, they'd greet us and carry on with their lives. There was no police though, but some Americans might have thrown up :)
17:42 There are also alcohol shops in Germany that are called VINOTHEK!
A wine shop is a shop that sells wine. The selected wine can usually be tasted through a tasting. There are often articles about wine or regional specialties. In Italy the term Enoteca is used. Wikipedia
We did a school trip when I was 15 and went to a wine cellar where we could drink wine with only the teachers as supervisors. Some drank a bit too much, but that was no problem.