STANDARD ELECTRIC TIME FIRE ALARM SYSTEM @ FIRESTONE HIGH
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- In 1962 an absolutely beautiful High school was constructed in Akron, Ohio. At the time this school was considered a crown jewel for Akron Public Schools. The school was named in honor of Harvey S. Firestone (1868-1938), a tire industrialist, who along with three associates organized and built the Firestone Tire & Rubber Company.
The school was furnished with a Standard Electric Time, model # UAX-3 (circa 1958) fire alarm system. Considered at the time to be one of the very best systems ever designed and manufactured. After 58 years of fire drills, this Standard Electric Time system still works like a charm and could easily go another 58 years. Sadly, this school was demolished in 2016.
Interesting presentation. I spent my career as a fire instructor/fire protection specialist and truly appreciate your uploads. Thanks for posting and stay safe.
Thank you Mike. That means a lot coming from someone with your background, most appreciated.
So, why do so many schools in Ohio get demolished as soon as they become over 50 years old? Even ones like this one which appear to be in perfectly good condition? My old elementary school was built in 1955 and the school board opted to expand and renovate it rather than demolish it. Middle school 1959, they decided to renovate it as well.
In case you're wondering, the elementary school fire system was installed in the 80s and was upgraded this year to a brand new Siemens system. The middle school system is a mixture of four generations of Simplex alarms -- 1975 to 2005 -- due to the school being added on to so many times. 1959 wing originally had an Edwards system with bells, for the record, that was replaced in 1975 with Simplex signals the same time a new wing was added on.
I wish there was a short and simple answer to your great question, but it would take me to long to explain it all here in detail. In short, politics and money have a lot to do with why these beautiful old schools in Ohio are being demolished and replaced with cheaper built schools. Also, in November of 1998, a national settlement was finalized between the tobacco industry and 46 states. Better known as the Master Settlement Agreement or MSA, $206 billion was paid to the states that participated in that lawsuit. Many of those states, Ohio being one of them, utilized a portion of the settlement money for building new schools; tragically resulting in the demise and destruction of many old historic school buildings.
It also has to do with the cost of renovation vs a brand new facility. For example an older school like that is not up to current code for disabled people and if the costs of installing elevators, ramps, strobes on the fire alarms, etc equal to or outweigh the cost of putting up a brand new building that would meet codes they generally will settle for the path of least resistance a. k. a. take the easy way out!
Well I would try to get all the alarms out of thare because free Alarms. Lol
I figured out my school has auto call bells in the fourth grade hall
I wish I knew tbh
Its a very nice system ! Just think, 10 years from now the school will be long gone but your video will still be going strong
I just really love the beats that this system does for its March time. Especially I’ve seen videos of other standard electric time systems doing this type of March time and also another collector made his coder do this exact March time too.
I always describe pull stations as glorified light switches, but the Standard 700 literally defines that.
lmfao
All those old schools in Akron, Ohio are so beautiful.
All of them are pretty much gone
Such craftsmanship an amazing piece of technology compaired today's panels.
I can attest to the robustness of these old beasts. I pulled one of these very same units out of an old church; I'm pretty sure it had not been powered up or used since the mid 90s - we put a Silent Knight system in at that time and the SET unit was abandoned and left where it sat. Wired it up and it worked perfectly after sitting un-powered and unused for 20+ years.
Hello Brett, Thank you for your testimony regarding how well these old systems were made. The like we will never see again. It was a time when "hardware" was truly hardware. Unlike the cheap plastic crap they make today.
Vintage and rare, as always!
Keep up the good work, and see if you can get a lot of those devices!
I'm also reminded of how in the neighboring town of West Bridgewater, their old high school building built in 1952 was demolished last year in favor of a bigger newer building. The old high school was just falling apart and was pretty much beyond repair. Prior to demolition, the old high school had a few of the original IBM fire alarm horns intact but disconnected, in favor of a Simplex 4100-series system installed in the 1990s (with rectangular 4903-series horn/strobes). The new high school has a full Simplex 4100ES voice-evac system, with wall and ceiling-mount TrueAlert speaker/strobes everywhere.
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Sorry about the school building that was torn down. The old Tuscaloosa county high school was in bad need of repair but they didn't have a choice but to tear it down. No old alarms were in there. Part of it remains because of Echols middle school.
Ah. I know there are plans to expand and renovate my city's high school, built in 1969. They have flush-mount Simplex 4040 horns everywhere, and they were ear-splitting loud.
Superb video! I'm glad this vintage technology is being documented.
Thank you for watching and your comment is most appreciated.
The horn in the electrical room was a Simplex 4050, but the one on the wall is a Standard 4-350 (Simplex 4040).
Ur icon is the fire alarms at my skool
Do you know what the horn was sitting beside the one he picked up
@@justinrhoad2677 That's a dual projector attachment, not a horn itself. Federal Signal model PR-2P.
I hope you were able to get your hands on a few of the alarms from this building
The entire system was saved for historical preservation.
Excellent!
I've always wanted a fire alarm panel because I think a residential home should have one.
My High School open in 1959 and it still in use it has a Notifier panel Gentex Commander sweet and brand new Notifier voice Evac system with white system sensor L series wall and ceiling mount speaker strobe and some old Viber Tunes as the scoreboards
I graduated from a high school that is merely two to three years older than the original Firestone High School. Schools from that era are a relatively disappearing breed
Sad but true.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms People I went to school with often complained that the school itself was falling apart. I'll admit it needed a little love, some of the pillars on the outside of the building are cracked and the bathrooms aren't pleasant, but for the most part the school was fine and structurally sound. It's a strong school, and in my opinion a beautiful one. The school is named Scotia-Glenville and it was built in 1958, with some extensions in 1963 and 2001 (the 1963 additions fit perfectly with the building, the 2001 additions do not and are just bland). I feel that most of the complaints about the school supposedly falling apart are actually about how it isn't new or modern. There is something unique about schools built in the 50s and 60s, they may not be as beautiful or grand as schools from the 20s and 30s, but they are still magnificent looking schools in their own right.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Most high schools in my area were built in the late 50s or early 60s. Niskayuna, Burnt Hills-Ballston Lake, and Schenectady (former Linton). Most of these schools thankfully are able to maintain their original character, and so far none have been demolished to make way for a new school. However, Maple Hill High School in Schodack was renovated a few years ago and the building now just looks monstrous, a modern art disaster. I'm not against renovation, but I feel like that schools from this era aren't renovated, but rather remodeled in a sense. Hereford High School, located outside my hometown, was renovation a few years ago but has maintained its character, the building mostly looks no different from when it opened in the 50s, at least on the outside.
@@homeworld1765 Love reading your comments, thank you for posting and watching my channel. I agree regarding school construction in the 1950's and 1960's. Every decade has it's own unique style of construction. Personally for me it was the late 1800's thru the 1940's.
My high school was built in 1952 and had horns with dual projectors that curved 90° like an S, but sounded match time exactly like this.
The fire alarm system that you described in your high school would have been a Standard Electric Time system for sure. Standard Electric Time was the only company that used those type of fire alarm horns.
We had an updated pull station. But our alarms sounded just like this in my elementary school
The fact how this video was posted on my birthday
Lmao this was posted the day before my birthday and happy late birthday 🥳
I just got a Simplex 4040 added to my collection.
Simplex collecting is becoming more popular. All the Simplex hardware that was manufactured in the 1960's, 70's and early 80's is getting harder to find. The model 4040 are great horns and well made.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms 4040s are awesome. Can't turn down AC powered horns.
My elementary school I used to go to still uses their Edwards 375 Adaptahorns as of today until they tear down the building. I asked them about them last year in 2023. It sounds promising, though, but I'd like to save those. There are 4 of them around the school since the school isn't that big.
What?? Another historical school scheduled for demolition?!? What's the matter with those people!! That school should be used for recreational services. Anyways, I've never heard of or seen a fire alarm system like that
Demolished in the name of "progress"
My elemetary school's original building had the same exact system this school had.
My high school was built in 1965 and is the only one in my county (we are the largest school corporation in the state of Indiana - area, not attendance). There are no plans to demolish and probably won't be for another 50 years. Sad to see Akron demolishing these historic buildings when they're still working fine.
Thank you for your comment and for watching, most appreciated.
wish I could buy an old school and create a fire alarm museum
Me too !! But it would take more money then I'll ever have.
when in place scheduled for demolition, grab all the notification devices you can fit in any storage place you have, then leave and enjoy your new electromechanical horns, or bells
RubyUmbreon mhm.
That is awesome. Those horns will really scare you into leaving the building, unlike the soft speakers of today. I would love to experience a system like that; our school has a junky Notifier Voice System.
Amen to that brother! The newer systems of today, like Notifier, are simply cheap junk for sure.
What message and tone does your school's notifier system use?
Yeah; a lot of the old fire alarm systems in schools around Brockton are getting replaced with stuff like that. The K-8 school I had kindergarten at had a neat old Simplex system with 4051+4050-80 horn/lights. When the system was failing early this year, they replaced it with a cheap Fire-Lite system with boring SpectrAlert Advance horn/strobes.
It really is sad to see these systems that work fine after 40 years of operation get replaced with systems that get all sorts of problems after only a few years of service.
Yes. Plus, SpectrAlert Advances are very common and run-of-the-mill. Simplex 4051 horns on 4050-80 light plates are not.
In November, I went to Suburban Park School in Norfolk VA and it had Fire Lite BG-6A's and Amseco Horns from the 60's (BZ-51)
and the system is still original, unless if it was a pull rod system. The school was I believe built in the 40's or 50's. So sad to see old schools demolished for NO REASON
Is that school still standing as of this writing?
My school had those pull stations from 2003 - 2014
They removed them because starting in 2012 they kept pulling themselves down resulting in more false fire alarms. all they have is the backbox of it in some classrooms. They replaced the system’s fire alarms with Wheelock AS’es and the pull stations are the addressable Silent Knight Intelliknight pull stations (SD-500 PSDA for the 5280xl)
The 1971-72 buildings at my college originally had those Standard pulls as well, but they replaced them because they're not ADA-compliant. They'd replace them with Faraday F1GT "Chevrons" or Fire-Lite/Notifier BG-12s, often on ADA-extension adapters.
My school have simplex 4251-20
spooka770 No stoppers?
My middle school used to have those 4-350's behind light plates in half of the building. VERY loud!!! The other half had 30A's, which I hated even more. That panel did Continuous
Damn those Simplex 4040s sound like heaven
Why is there a Simplex Horn/Strobe with a 2001 that has no cards?
Great question. The cards were removed from the 2001 to be used in another school shortly before the school was demolished. The horn/strobe was working when the cards were installed because a signal was needed in the boiler room which was very noisy.
What a clever way to set off fire alarms! The people who think of this are geniuses!
I think I saw a Simplex 2001 above the panel with the code wheel.
That is exactly what that panel was. Great observation.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Thx I always know theres a Simplex 2001 because of mainly the red ones.
Are there any schools or facilities in the Massachusetts area that still use this Standard Electric Time Co. fire alarm system? This is a very rare system and almost impossible to find in buildings these days due to renovations and reconstruction.
Standard Electric Time Company sold thousands of these types of fire alarm system all over the United States, especially in the northeastern states. I can say with certainty that there are probably hundreds of older schools, universities, hospitals and other public and private buildings that still have this particular fire alarm system still in service. I just recently removed one of these systems from a building at Kent State University in Ohio.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Do you have any photos or videos you can post from Kent State University in Ohio of the Standard Electric Time Co. system?
@@andrewbroughton6014 Go to my website, OldSchoolFireAlarms and click on CONTACT and leave your email address and I will send you some pictures.
can you please show me what the key looks like to reset the standard electric time pull stations?
It bothers me that Akron keeps on demolishing these historic and beautiful buildings, just so they can put up newer buildings that "are better at making kids successful" and all of that crap. It is a shame to see buildings that have so much character go to waste.
dude I WENT to this school
What year did you go to this school?
Max Shaw
Now that is a true fire alarm
There is a simplex 2001 tied to the standard electric panel as well.
Actually I have a Beige Standard Electric Time Horn like that (If they're 4-350's Series A1's) except it seems that there was an attempt to paint it red but it wasn't 100% covered. And also, instead of an amount of Volatage like 12 or 120 VA, what why is "SERIES" in the VOLTS?
With older fire alarm systems, the horns and/or bells are normally wired in a loop configuration that consists of a "SERIES" of horns or bells. Fire alarm systems usually consists of more then just one bell or horn; there usually is a "SERIES" of bells or horns that are wired to the master control panel. Thank you for another great question.
Old School Fire Alarms but is it 120 VAC?
Yes, it is 120 VAC.
Would you recall the purpose of that 2001 panel and that 4903 signal?
As time marched on the building was extended, which required the fire alarm system to be extended too. When the system was upgraded, Standard Electric Time was no longer in business, therefore the school district had to purchase another company's hardware (Simplex).
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms so why was it so empty?
The school was in the process of being demolished.@@mimi2
There is a high school in my city that was built in the 1930s. I Belive it has some sort of Spectrlert speaker strobe mix 4050 w/ Space Age light plates.
That could also be a perfect sound for fire alarms other than those projectile horns. Am I'm correct?
Yes, you are correct.
Yes
Sucks that all the old and historical schools are being demolished.
You are so right Samuel. Thank you for watching.
I feel you. The school district I used to go to in Ohio not only demolished the school I went to Kindergarten in, which was old itself, but they also demolished a 200 year old school building.
How come there are some fire alarms in the Boiler rooms are not on the walls
I love this system, I love how you saved the entire system and do you have any of those gray Standard horns in stock?
Yes, I do have these horns in stock.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms how much for one?
@@firealarm2903_ You need to go to my website, OldSchoolFireAlarms.com and make an inquiry there.
Nice job on the video.
That sucks they're going to demolish that school building! We have really old school buildings in Brockton MA that are still in use; some have been renovated very nicely, even if it means new fire alarm systems replace the old ones.
Five of the buildings at my college originally had Standard Electric Time fire alarm systems, built in 1971-1972 with the same pull stations, but the alarms were Standard-rebranded Vibratone 450s on those old flush-mount Standard light plates. Some of the old Standard horns are still in use in the student union, but everything else has been replaced (mostly with newer Notifier stuff.)
I also noticed a small Simplex 2001-style cabinet above the Standard panels, and some kind of 90s-style Simplex 4903 rectangular horn/strobe as well. I wonder what that was for?
The school had some additions added to it. So they had to add additional fire alarm stations. When the additions were built, Standard Electric Time was no longer in business hence, Simplex hardware was used to extend the system. Thank you for your comment and for watching.
Any time. I remember how Standard Electric Time was folded into Faraday. I'm also reminded how they replaced a few old Standard systems at my friend's university with newer Simplex systems (as the majority of the campus is Simplex, while many dorms use EST systems.)
If y'all ever think about demolishing that building could I get the fire alarms cause I like Simpex i have a collection and I like old fire alarm systems like this and why because the pull station you can sometimes if the panel is set in continuos then it's fun cause you can mess with the switch on the pull and make your own coding, but anyways let me know brother!
This fire alarm system has been requested for historical preservation and is going to a fire museum. Thank you for watching.
That's great! Back in April when Brockton's public schools were on spring break, I did some dumpster diving behind an elementary school where a couple of my former teachers now work, and pulled out some Simplex 4051 horns and 4050-80 light plates they were tossing out. They were the early version too, where the horn is fully recessed into the light plate (the school was built in 1974.) They went with an odd replacement: Wheelock AH-24WP-R horns on RSSP strobe plates.
Though when I got to the school, I figured they were doing something with the fire alarm system, because I saw New England Safety Systems and SimplexGrinnell vans parked in the back.
My local high school had one as well it was set to code 3 with simplex 4040 horns and to my knowledge the system has updated to a new siemens fire alarm panel with their own brand of horns and by the way the school was designed by a prododege of FRANK LLOYD WRITE and I don't want to give out the name of the school. By the way my school still has the STANDARD ELECTRIC TIME MASTER TIME CLOCK WITH NEW BEAMAS SLAVE CLOCKS SOME ARE DIGITAL WITH A COUNTDOWN FOR CLASS CHANGE SOME ARE ANOLOG.
So there are Simplex horns and What pull station on the right side of the panel is it?
There were both Simplex and Standard Electric Time horns in the building. Not sure what pull station you are talking about. There is no pull station next to the control panels.
Can u do another video about a school with single stroke bells?
I will be posting a new video soon of a school that has a fire alarm system using single stroke bells. Thank you for watching and for your request.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms when can we expect more videos?
Probably not until next year. I only usually do 3 vids per year. Thank you for watching and for your inquiry.
What was the 2001 system above the panel for?
The building had additions which required the fire alarm system to be extended and/or added onto. Since Standard Electric Time was no longer in business when the additions were made, they used Simplex hardware instead. Thank you for watching and for your question.
it looked like there was a second fire alarm system in that building
There was a second system in the school. When they added additions to the building they had to extend the original Standard Electric fire alarm system. Since Standard Electric Time Company was no longer in business at the time the additions were built, they used Simplex fire alarm hardware to extend the system. Great observation and thank you for watching Mike.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms well i also observed that you cut out where your hand grabs the door looks like it's moving by itself
Why Were there Simplex 4040s in the building but the red one you showed was a 4050
This was a mix-matched system.. The building had been added onto overtime and they had to keep adding on to the fire alarm system. Since Standard Electric Time Co. had gone out of business, the school decided to use Simplex FA hardware for upgrades.
Thanks.
Why is there a Modern Fire Alarm at 2:13?
As the years rolled by additions were added to the original building. When the additions were added, Standard Electric Time was no longer in business, so they had to acquire other hardware that could be tied-in to the old system.
It's a good thing they kept the Old System
There’s a Simplex 2001 panel in there. That is why the March time is here
The Standard Electric Time control panel, that was originally installed when the school was first built in 1962, is what produced the march time code that sounded over the horns. The Simplex panel that you see was installed much later and tied into the old Standard Electric Time panels to extend the system into new additions that were added on to the school building.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarmsi could tell it wasn’t all 2001 because the pattern is slightly different and there’s still a split second reaction when pulling
There doesn’t seem to be a March time rate card in there must just be expanders
@@michaelgrahamwongacutemadness Exactly, your observation is correct. The march time code is produced by the Standard Electric Time control panel, not from the 2001 Simplex panel. The 2001 Simplex was being used to extend the entire fire alarm system only. When additions were added to the school, Standard Electric Time was no longer in business and therefore their horns and extender panels were no longer in production. This is the reason why Simplex hardware was adderd to the fire alarm system. It was not an exact fit, but compatable enough to work with the original / old hardware.
Do you keep any of the alarms you remove or do you sell them all?
Most go to museums, some sold to private collectors, and some I keep for myself.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarmsare any of the standard electric horns in this video for sale?
It looked like there was also a newer simplex system too in that school
There was a Simplex system tied-in to the original Standard Electric Time system.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms that’s interesting, how come did they do that?
@@NyxKemo Additional wings were added to the building as time marched on. When they built the additions, Standard Electric Time was no longer in business. So they had to find a company that made fire alarm hardware that was compatible with the old Standard Electric Time hardware. Simplex was the company the school district contracted with to extend the old system.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms wow, that is not a bad idea, but when you tested the standard electric time system did you disable the simplex system? Because i did not hear it go off.
@@NyxKemo The Simplex system was not disabled. The Simplex system was tied into the Standard Electric Time's master control panel. So whether you activated a Standard pull station or one of the newer Simplex pull stations it would activate the entire system. For demonstration purposes, I only activated a Standard pull station. There were both Standard and Simplex horns in the building. If you watch the video again, you will hear a Simplex horn going off in the Boiler room where I was filming the old, Standard Electric Time control panel.
+Old School Fire Alarms. I think that these horns are Rebranded Standard Horns (AKA Simplex 4040
Is every school you present in fire alarm tests in akron, ohio? Just curious
No, but most are in the state of Ohio.
Ok then. Just throwing it out there
The school I go to was made in 1918 and its still in perfect condition the fire alarms and all that are still in perfect condition. But if you pull the fire alarm you will get ink on your hand.
I am familiar with those type of pull stations that squirt out ink when you pull them. They are rare though. Most public places do not use them.
There is no such thing as a pull station that sprays ink at you when you pull it.
Hi, Old School Fire Alarms, I have a question for you. My school was built in 1962 as a furniture store. Do you think that a building built around that time would have the pull rod fire alarms?
Its possible, but highly unlikely. Pull rod fire alarms were starting to be phased out by the 1960's. Electric, automated fire alarm systems were mandatory by that time, and would no longer meet code in 1962. Thank you for watching and for the great question.
+Old School Fire Alarms In your trailer, the video of that school being torn down broke my heart. Is the system in the video being saved?
That particular fire alarm system was saved for historical preservation.
+Old School Fire Alarms I meant the one in this video.
Not to worry, that one is being saved also.
When buildings are demolished do they take the fire alarms out?
Not all buildings. But with this particular school building the fire alarm system was removed for historical preservation.
Old School Fire Alarms Good. I hate when they leave vintage fire alarms in demolished buildings. They don't their destroying a piece of history from the 20TH CENTURY ?
It would be pretty interesting if they make a new type of modern fire alarm horn that has a sound of an older horn
It will be interesting to see if any of the new fire alarm manufacturing companies do that.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms My current high school had this exact system but it was replaced in the 90’s with Simplex 9806s in march time and I thought “What if there was a modern horn that makes this exact sound”
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms Unfortunately, that won't ever happen due to the voice evac requirement in all new/renovated schools. And because of that requirement, most fire alarm companies have discontinued most of their non-speaker/strobe alarms. Maybe they can make the voice evac system play an old simplex mechanical horn tone instead of a whooping sound. But, it's really sad that all the iconic alarms have been discontinued. Most people nowadays, when you hear the phrase "fire alarm", we automatically think "beep beep beep beep beep" but in the future, fire alarm will mean "Attention please, there has been a report of a fire emergency" to most people. Pretty sad, horn/strobes are now history.
@@cg7240 Thank you for watching and for your comment. Interesting and most appreciated.
What is the model of that pull station
The Model # is 200-176 for the Standard NC pull stations.
The pulls remind me of the 270spos
I got some of the alarms before the school was destroyed
julian The network guy this school?
@@relevanteaglealarms109 yes
That is so cool
Are there any pull rod fire alarms left in Wisconsin
I most certainly would think so. There are still plenty of old schools throughout the state of Wisconsin that do not have the funding to upgrade to new fire alarm systems.
Old School Fire Alarms well my high school (Muskego high school) had some old fire horns most of them have been removed in 2004 when the building was extended but only 2 remained and i asked them permission to get one of them for my collection and they gave me one and turned out to be an edwards 364 adaptahorn and it still works great
Good deal !
Old School Fire Alarms although it wasn’t just the fire alarms i was after they gave me the class change bell as well after they upgraded to digital speakers
I saw some modern Simplex Devices
Yes, this was a mix/matched system. As additions were added to the building, since Standard Electric Time Company had gone out of business, the school had to purchase and install other hardware from a company like Simplex to extend the fire alarm system. Thanks for watching and for your observation.
Old School Fire Alarms, are the Simplex horns 4051s or 4050s? Thank you!
@@FranzFerdinandVIII they used 4050s
What school uses boilers? What are they even for?
"Boilers" was a term that referred usually to coal burning furnaces. All schools built during the 19th to mid 20th century used boilers to burn coal to heat the buildings. Later on, as time passed, many of the boilers were converted to utilize natural gas instead of coal. Thank you for watching and for your question.
Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
Any building that uses steam heat, it doesn't matter what the heat source is as long as it boils water and makes steam for radiators.
Has this place ever been renovated? And merry Christmas and happy new year.
Yes, since the original construction of the school, there were some additions added and upgrades to the building over the years. Unfortunately, this school has already been abated and is scheduled for demolition. Thank you for watching and Happy Holidays to you as well.
my school has those pull stations.
The alarms are the exact same alarms at Ethan Weber’s high school.
Was that a Simplex 2001 I saw above the extender panel?
That was actually a double projection horn that can attach to several different vibratone horns; such as Simplex, Autocall, Federal Sign and Signal, etc. This particular school had mostly model #350 electric horns with Standard Electric Time Co. labels and/or I.D. tags on them. I also found some Simplex horns in the school as well.
+Old School Fire Alarms I meant at 4:54, and it's actually more above both panels.
Yes, I believe you are correct. That is a 2001 Simplex. Sorry about that.
+Old School Fire Alarms It's okay. You did say there was an expansion, right? Do you think the 2001 is for that purpose?
Yes, definitely. There were several extension panels. This is really a very large school.
Did the standard electric pull station keys go to the museum too?
Yes, everything that goes with the system is saved and goes to the museum.
Has the system been upgraded yet?
The schools gone.
@@FireRescue80 oh ok.
@@Davesand2003 it's been gone for years now.
@@FireRescue80 totally forgot 😂
@@Davesand2003 Lol.
@2:17 What is the make and model of the grey horn?
The grey horn is Model #350 Standard Electric Time, 1.9 amps
Originally it was made by Federal Signal. But many companies, such as Autocall, Standard, Simplex, etc. rebranded them. The Student Union at my college still has some Standard 450 horns, which is their rebrand of the old Federal Vibratone 450.
Which college has those rare gray Standard 4-350 mechanical horns? I saw some models like that at the John W. Wynn Middle School in Tewksbury, MA until about 2001 when they renovated and expanded the school.
4040s
Wow! 2:12 Check out that daul projector! Was this used on the horns at some point in time?
Not sure.
Nice!
you should try to get your hands on the system and keep it for yourself or something
Hello Frank, the system has been requested for historical preservation and will be saved. Thank you for watching and for your comment.
OK good just as long as it stays intact
Did Firestone High have Air Conditioning?
That is a good question, and unfortunately since I never attended that school personally, I'm not sure. I know that there was no individual air conditioning units in the windows.
Old School Fire Alarms Either way it seems foolish for any district to leave a school with a name like this with a short-lived future.
They have rebuilt a new school right next to this old one they are going to tear down.
Old School Fire Alarms Oh well. On the bright side, it would be a more up-to-date and fit for the children of today.
There was nothing wrong with the one they are tearing down. It could have easily been renovated at half the cost.
Any new videos coming soon?
Yes, I have a new one coming first of the year.
Nice! Can't wait to see it.
I think these alarms are in the Floyd County Jail. I’ve heard them on Beyond Scared Straight
what was the purpose of the simplex 2001 in the boiler room?
In later years the school had additions added to the building, therefore more pull stations were needed. At that time, Standard Electric Time Co. was no longer in business, so they used Simplex hardware to extend the old system. Thanks for the great question and for watching.
Great video, what a shame that are tearing it down, I would love to acquire some old horns like those. I have some bells and pulls I saved from my school. They were run from an autocall panel that was thrown out.
One of my memories is ding ding. Ding ding ding. During a fire drill
Unfortunately, so much of that old, well built hardware was just thrown away, when most of it was still in good operational condition. We really do live in a "just throw it away" society.
This is why rare old fire alarm devices almost never appear on eBay!
What March time is it 90 or 120 bpm
Great question and to be honest I really don't know because I never actually counted.
My favorite alarms!!! SIMPLEX 40-50!!! This horn reminds me of factory fire alarms in cartoons.
Knew I wasn't the only one who thought that.
what a beautiful school building. sad that they're going to demolish it.
There's an old saying, "You don't know what you got till its gone." Time and history will prove that the people who were instrumental in destroying these beautiful old schools will wish they never had.
+Old School Fire Alarms definitely a good point
School statuses: Bettes Elementary: demolished. Goodrich: total loss. Hotchkiss Elementary: total loss. The Abandoned Fire Alarm school: secure and salvageable
hotchkiss isn't a total loss, yet
it could be at any time
Those horns from over 50 years ago too??? Could've sworn I saw those same horns in buildings from the 70's or even the 80's...
The horns were definitely from the 1950's, and you also would see them in buildings that were built in the 1960's, 70's and 80's due to the fact that similar models were still being manufactured then.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I have a similar one
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Did anybody knows the Simplex 2001 panel at 4:53
I did
It’s an extender panel because standard electric time went out of business when the school was expanded and they had to use simplex hardware since essentially some of these devices are made by simplex. The school is demolished unfortunately, they replaced with the new cheap structure
The schools in Broward County, Florida, put the pull stations inside classrooms. This keeps false alarms at a minimum.
That's a great idea as long as visitors and the general public who visit the school are aware of it. A fire can start anywhere in a building and everyone needs to know where the pull stations are located. Thanks Jay for watching and for your comment.
There are signs to indicate where the pull stations are. The schools use a code 3 alarm signal.
Still standing?
No. Demolished and a new school built.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms ok thank you!
4:27 did you take that horn or was it yours
It was an extra horn that was in the electrical room. I did take the horn before the school was demolished.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms the simplex 4050?
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms did you also take the simplex 4903 horn strobe
@@theray2009 Yes I did. The entire fire alarm system was removed.
Can't have a modern fire alarm system in Ohio... smh
There are thousands of modern fire alarm systems in most public buildings and establishments in Ohio. My You Tube channel, Old School Fire Alarms, is devoted to what the title of the channel indicates - Old schools and vintage fire alarm systems that are sadly disappearing at an alarming rate.
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms I meant it more like a joke, but still interesting to know 😅
@@jordyvt08 I gotcha, thank you for watching .
@@OldSchoolFireAlarms no problem mate
The Fire alarms sounded like a simplex 4050 horn
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4050’s have a deep sound
What's wrong with this building why would it need to be demolished
There was very little wrong with this building. It could easily have been renovated and updated where needed. It was and usually is about politics why this school will be demolished. To long to explain here.
Damn I was hoping that thee would have electromechanical horns like 4051s.
These are Simplex 4040s
Yeah but they have the same pitch.
4051s generally don't have the same pitch as the 4050 and 4040, since it's a DC horn and the other two are AC
Yeah. AC and electronic horns sound the same so I don't like them.
Goldenrod636 That's not a good reason to not like them. AC horns are the classics! They're vintage, well built to last, and crazy loud!
Damn, that's a very rare fire alarm system!! I've seen one like that in the John W. Wynn Middle School in Tewksbury, MA until it began renovations and expansions in 2001. Today's fire alarm systems have strobes and electronic piezo horns instead of the old fashioned mechanical horns. That's the worst fire alarm system I've ever heard.