Hey Clark... (old) commercial diver here & I have 2 words for you - FILTRATION SYSTEM !!! Dude, you are getting all kinds of metal microparticles from the compressor in your lungs let alone the fact that the compressor air intake could be close to a contaminant source, i.e. propane tanks, fuel tanks, solvents, combustion, etc, etc... You can make a cheap filtration system with a 6 - 8" PVC pipe 4 ft in length, two threaded caps, pack it with coffee filters and activated charcoal and some molecular sieve... Get a balanced 2nd stage reg that can breath well even at 80 - 100 psi, assuming you are going to be cleaning your boat at 2 -3 ft of water. Depending on use you can change the elements of your filter every 4 - 5 uses... We used to make our own 'emergency' backup filtration systems back in the day when I was working in Mexico in the 80's... It is not that difficult. Otherwise your lungs are going to pay the price...
Filtration does not need to be anything fancy its enough with a water/oil separator to remove the water generated when compressing the air and a micron filter to remove any type of small particles. Its an electrical oilless compressor that runs off a battery the air is the same as u breath on land. to put it into perspective People work by grinding metal so they breath metal dust everyday (and wood dust) and people sit/work next to engines which makes them breath fuses (and those people still reach pension age) which is extreme conditions compared to a oilless electrical compressor out on the open water. second stage scuba regulator is all the same go for the cheapest one and use the adjustment screw until you can breath without an air supply all it does is close the intake it should require no pressure to actually breath through it it just need a bit of suction whatever its 10 psi or 140 it will work just fine. The filters ("activated charcoal") you are talking about is what they use for huge scuba compressors to achieve completely clean air and this is due to the fact that those compressors have oil in them to create the pressure required. This is nothing like that, there is no oil in the "pump" part of the compressor and the air passing through it have went through an air filter so the bad particles comes from the wear of the compressor and in worst case rust in the tank which with a micron filter and water/oil separator will be removed. the diving community really have a tinfoil hat nowdays
I'm wondering, being in shallow water, couldn't you just have a hose attached to the boat well above 'water level' and breathe directly through it? Wouldn't it be the same difference as if your nose was at where you mounted it? In through nose and out through mouth into the open water so your not putting your exhausted breath back into the hose.
I came here to say the same thing, but also to wonder about all the commercially sold "hookah for diving" options. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the $3000 hookahs that are "great for breath!" use the exact same parts and produce the exact same micro-particles in the airstream. At least with this DIY option you *can* add all kinds of filters. I don't think that's even an option on commercial dive hookahs.
I remember bottom cleaning my Columbia 30 back in the day, one thing that helped with minimizing the critter clutter was to anchor the boat in a reasonable current and work from the downstream end (the stern) to the upstream end of the boat, and have all the gunk flowing under & away from us as we moved forward. I think it helped to some degree. That pullover cap plus earplugs are a great idea tho. Plus your DIY hookah which I think is awesome despite some of the comments.
Working in slight current is a good idea. Just not an option where I'm currently anchored. I could really see just fine, it was just hard to film through the "stuff". Going back down this week to clean it better. Polish to add speed. And thanks for your comment on hookah safety. I appreciate it.
"As you get older it gets harder and harder to do breathe hold dives". At Clark's age I don't believe I'd be concerned but I would not advise a young person to start doing this unless they want to edit that statement to "As you get older it gets harder and harder to simply breathe." The Oil less compressors are oil less in that they do not have an oil reservoir or sump which lubricates the rotating assembly however in disassembly it would be quickly discovered that the parts are coated in assembly lube as a preservative for both before and after manufacturing. It is a very small amount and diving a few times won't kill you but over a extended period you can imagine what the tiny particles of aluminum and lubricant will do to lungs.
Its good to keep the barnacles outside the hull instead of the inside.My 33 Morgan is growing them on the inside .It also took 2 gallons of paint at 300/gallon.Your probably takes[3] 1000 dollars worth. Plus an expensive haul out! I can see how handy that homemade hookah rig could be!!Great video!!Thanks for making it!!!!
Hate to be a downer but I would not use that rig up. Oil less does not mean that the air is breathing quality. Those cheap compressors shed all kinds of crap into the air which you can prove if you put a proper filter system on the end of it. It will foul in no time. You should filter it to be good enough to run air tools if you want them to last and they are a lot less picky than your lungs. There is a good reason the Bauer systems are expensive, it is because they will not ruin your lungs. Also, order some cutless gloves. They are made for butchers and people working with glass. Knitted out of kevlar. They really work.
There is an outfit using this same compressor sold as a hookah. They paint it yellow and charge 2 or 3 k for it. But to each his own. I like your suggestion about the gloves. I'm getting a pair. Cheap on Amazon
How difficult is it to fit a suitable filter? And at what cost? (Not that the cost of the filter will prevent one from buying it if it's a safety issue.) Tks
Great advice. I love seeing what you guys are up to. Temptress is growing a beard and you give her a shave. Clark after reading a few comments on air quality i recon you could make a cheep air water filter to take out any particles of metal from the compressor. Mutch love
Just bought all the goodies to set up my system. I need to change out my prop and the diver wanted over $400, so I had a good excuse to spend a few hundred on the gear...Anyway, I think you guys are awesome and I appreciate what you do 🙏
As soon as I saw the title of your video, I thought it was an awful idea, because you'd be breathing in lubricant fumes. But you seem to have it covered with an oil less compressor. Great way to save money on equipment. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome. And yes you don't want to use the wrong type of compressor without using special oil and filter. The sea cucumber divers in the Puget sound use regular garage compressors with special oil. They are breathing with that system for many hours a day.
Just an FYI: That compressor is no longer on Amazon. I know its been a while since this video and you said it was hard to find but just wanted to let you know. Love you guys and greatly appreciate all your great videos. You've helped me SO much.
To rob a bank with a yellow mask. lol But the savings you’ve taught us here are priceless (the compressor and all of that.) Plus, the ending footage is a great perk. Thanks a lot.
I have followed your video, but also got two filters made for hookahs from an online dive shop. One goes at the compressor and one at regulator. My question, which I didn't see posted is what pressure should I set the regulator on the compressor too? Thank you for the excellent post.
I use about 75 psi. I also drilled out the regulator hose fitting so it flows better. Not the valve just the brass fitting, on mine they were kinda small.
Perhaps a pair of cut gloves would come in handy for cleaning under the boat? I can't say I have ever personally used a pair but at work they are required for people in the kitchen to prevent injury while cutting food. They are fairly cheap (probably comparable in price to the ones you are using now) and I would think that they would last much longer (if not forever) instead of buying multiple pairs of gloves and still risking getting cut in the process. They may have other reasons why they would be impractical but I thought I would still mention it.
If anyone has questions like I did I found this helpful so I thought I would post it. Q: Do I have to buy a compressor specifically designed for breathing air? A: No. While we would like to say yes, the answer is no as long as the compressor is well maintained and has good, clean ambient intake air free from gas and particulate contamination and is not using PAO or harmful synthetic lubricating oils. Breathing air filtration package and CO monitor must be used on existing compressors. Q: What is the difference between a breathing air compressor and a plant air compressor? A: Breathing air compressor systems are designed with respirator use as the focused utility. The size of the compressor, FDA Food-grade lubricating oil, Grade - D filtration, CO monitor, refrigerated dryer, receiver tank with condensation drain, and air distribution system must be specifically sized for the number of workers and types of respirators in use. A plant compressor is not. Q: Must I use an oilless air compressor for breathing air supply? A: No. With the advent of the FDA Food-grade oil and the advances in compressor and breathing air filtration standard rotary screw, piston, and vane type compressor can be used when filtered with the proper filtration. Q: How many workers can I hook up to a compressor? A: This depends on the respirator used. Every NIOSH approved respirator MUST free flow a minimum of 15 CFM (cubic feet per minute). Constant flow hoods have a flow range of 6 - 15 CFM. Full face constant flow respirators have a flow range of 4 - 15 CFM. Positive pressure, pressure demand respirators have a flow range of 4 - 15 CFM. Pressures vary from 6 - 120 PSI (pounds per square inch). Consult the respirator manufacturer for specific pressures, flows, and hose lengths. Take the number of workers or respirators and multiply by the desired flow required at the pressure needed by the respirator and the answer will give you the necessary CFM for the compressor. Q: What is the difference between pressure and flow? A: Pressure is force described in PSI, Pascals, or Bars. Flow is the volume or quantity of air described in CFM (cubic feet per minute), liters per minute, cubic meters per minute or hour. Q: What is an ambient air pump? A: An ambient air pump is an oilless vane air compressor operating at low pressure not exceeding 15 PSIg operating constant flow respirators only. Q: Who regulates the use of compressors? A: OSHA in their Documents CFR29 - 1910.134 establishes the protocol for compressors used for breathing air. Q: Who regulates respirator use? A: NIOSH. Q: Can I buy an explosion proof compressor? A: Yes. The real question is whether the the compressor is going to "breathe" or intake the ambient explosive atmosphere. Compressors are a machined set of lungs and cannot intake combustible, noxious, or volatile gases that could injure, harm, or kill a human if inhaled. While we manufacture explosion proof compressor systems, the air intake must be remoted to a clean air environment to ensure worker safety if the compressor is to be placed in a volatile atmosphere. Consult Customer Service for recommendations.
Pretty cool setup, Is there any concern with quality of the air.....you never mentioned any filtering? Not so sure I'd like bugs crawling all over me.....tell me they fall right off with a rinse of water? Cheerz!
Thats an amazing idea and because of your video I actually ordered one and just received my 12v oiless puma today. I have a question for you, i set up my water, particle filter and 2nd stage but after breathing for about 8 minutes my lungs started hurting so I went to disconnect the air line and noticed a DANGER breathing Hazard sticker on my compressor. Have you noticed anything like that or had any ill effects with it ?? Thank you
If you are having issues I'd not use it. Maybe they changed something?? But no. In fact a friend just used mine over the last two days. Cleaned my dinghy, propeller and rudder of the yacht and inspected the mooring. Never had a problem here.
@@Clarks-Adventure okay great thank you for the info. there was nothing specified about breathing or NOT breathing in the details or specifications from The Puma dealer and as mentioned I didn't even realize it until my lungs started hurting and I went to disconnect the air hose and paid a little closer attention to the danger sign DO NOT use for breathing so apparently something has changed. Unfortunately it looks like I'll be returning it beautiful unit though. Thanks again.
They stay happily on the boat unless you scrape them off their home. Normal diving you never see them. Salt water is so much "less gross" then a fresh water lake.
I dont know if you will get this. I had to do get a compressor for breathing air. I used a fireman mask for it was positive pressure. I had put three types of filters on it. A water separator, a carbon filter and and one to remove water from the air " silica". I dont think the water separator worked. It was water, silica and carbon in that order. There was a nice difference in breathing the air.✌😉
I have a screen in mine. Add any filter you like. Someone made a wonderful comment here describing why filters are not necessarily. The Crux of his comment was people survive angle grinding metal. Lots of metal dust in that air! Like anything, use your own judgement.
Great video. I love the ones that help save money rather than telling me how to spend millions of things I don't need. What are your thoughts on boat surveys for cheap old boats? I know quite a bit about boats and everyone wants me to pay a fortune to get second opinion from a surveyor. what are your thoughts on the subject?
Sure I use it all the time. While we were off the boat over the last 7 months it was used by my friend Steve. Steve is one of the original guys that started PADI. He is known as Papa PADI. He feels it's safe enough to use himself.
@@Clarks-Adventure So the pressure control on the compressor is or works as the 1 st stage? I don't know much about scuba, but I'm very cautious. Better safe than sorry/dead and " She'll be right " [ I'm Australian] is a stupid phyilosophy.
Stay in the top 10 feet then. Going deeper without understanding how breathing underwater works can kill you 3 different ways. That wouldn't be the device killing you it would be lack of training.
Ahhhh I was hoping your still around, didn’t see new dated videos it seems. That krill though, that I’m not sure about lol…Gotta do what ya gotta do though. Trying to get our 1st family SV at 56…Better Late Than Never…Cheers from Ventura Ca…
@@Clarks-Adventure Oh yes sir, its extremely profitable too because there is so few competition where I'm from because it's all darkwater and no one likes it. Lol.
That's about the best example of what I'm talking about when I say "don't be a waiter". Good on you. Would you consider sharing our playlists on social media? We'd really appreciate the new subscribers.
@@Clarks-Adventure Sure thing I could do that. Check out our facebook and our website as well @ m.facebook.com/darkwaterboats/ and darkwaterboatmaintenance.com
I've watched this video a couple of times already and read through the comments a couple of times as well as checking out quite a few other videos of people cobbling together their own inexpensive hookahs. I think this is a great way to save money, but would also like to find out if there's any way to just attach a really good quality air filter and water separator to calm the nerves of those who keep saying this is so dangerous. Some of these videos on youtube are recommending to just pick up some hose at Harbor Freight. How difficult would it be to just attach a filter right before it gets to your regulator? That way everything is filtered, right?
Sure one can filter. I'd do it at the start of the hose where it leaves the tank. Water separator is unnecessary as humans tolerate water just fine. This compressor has an intake filter already and since it is oiless I'm not sure what one would be trying to catch. I like to think that the compressor isn't throwing chunks of metal or if it does they settle in the tank. I guess one could just add a bit of 1 inch or so pipe filled with cotton at the start of the hose. As for hose. It's vital that what you choose can't kink. A kinked hose will shut down your air right away. Unlike a compressor failure which gives you several more breaths.
Not necessary. People have been using similar systems for MANY years with no issues. The compressor is only taking the air up about 70 psi. And the regulator is in water which is a great heat sink. Nothing gets that cold.
"Humans tolerate water." As does mold and rust. Which would both build up inside that system. SCUBA bottles require inspections. *Commercial Diver here
@@homeslipper Here again, wouldn't a good 5 micron filter solve the problem? When the hose, fittings, etc. are so cheap, they're basically disposable anyways, no? I live out in the country where mold and rust is everywhere. Other than black mold, I don't see the problem especially if one has a good filter.
I haven't put a meter on it yet. I'd guess it averages about 40 amps at 13 volts. Takes from 1 to 3 hours to clean the bottom well. Depends on what is growing there.
Question on current draw. I'm assuming you're using house batteries, I'd personally (since I'm going to do this) get a portable battery, and am thinking that a 100ah battery would last roughly an hour considering you said 40A (so.... you don't want to kill your battery completely, not even deep cycles, and an hour would use 40AH so just above 1/2 power draw). On your system (again assuming) house battery, do you have solar etc hooked up to charge your systems?
Yes, it doesn't dent the voltage of our 1500ah bank with the panels charging. If I was going mobile I'd think about a lithium. Spend some of your compressor savings on a battery that could also help out your house bank when you aren't diving. I'm learning a lot about them now. Possible project coming up.
If you use a LiFe battery as Clark (below) suggests, then 40 A for about an hour is about 40 AH. This is because the LiFe battery has very little internal resistance. BUT if you go with a lead acid battery, then the consumption will be a lot more than 40 AH. This is because the energy consumed from the battery includes the energy loss due to the battery's internal resistance. This energy loss goes as the square of the current times the resistance(E_loss = I^2 R). A 100 AH rating comes from 5A over 20 hrs, so for a current 8 times larger (5*8=40A), the energy loss in heating up the battery increases not by a factor of 8 but more like a factor of 8^2=64. Ok, it a bit more complicated than this because the resistance is not constant. Another reason against a single lead acid battery, would be the voltage drop of the battery ( V_battery = EMF_TrueVoltage - I *R). That is, a large current results in a large drop in voltage, leaving too little to run the motor (or worse run it slowly while but killing the motor faster).
Would/could this be safe down to about 10 meters?? I would like to hang down and meditate and do Timelapse’s. I’ve heard of the Nemo blu3 and I’m now wondering what would the safety difference be as I don’t want air bubbles in my blood. I read this system is only safe for shallow diving like hull cleaning.
Some people add a filter but it already has one for the incoming air. The key is it's an "oiless" compressor. The machine oil that is often used can cause problems for your lungs. I have since seen a commercial setup using this same compressor "painted yellow" for like 3 grand.
Great idea but I would want to add a air filter. Even though it says oil less compressor, you still have to have a moisture filter to paint cars so your lungs would need to have the filter as well
@@Clarks-Adventure sir, I'm just saying that a air compressor even though it says oil less it still creates moisture in the tank and if you have a 20 dollar moisture filter installed before the air hose. You will prevent any and all of the bad moisture that will occur in the tank giving you a better chance of not getting build up in the tank. I apologize for asking you if you watched the video because I didn't realize you were the one asking me the question. I'm just trying to say that you have a great idea but I would add a filter for a extra safety precaution.
This comment was made 1 year ago and was just checking to see if you had tried a second airline yet? We will be in fresh water no more than 8-10 feet deep, will this compressor work for that?
Haven't tried two yet but I see no problems. With me alone and exerting myself the compressor was cycling off and on. It had plenty of capacity for boat bottom depths. We free dive for pleasure and hauled the boat last summer so we haven't had to clean the bottom since this video was shot.
Inner tube it the usual way. But I always seem to dive with the dinghy so that seems safer. I have 2 100ft hoses. Honestly I mostly just leave it in the yacht and use it to clean the bottom of the yacht or dinghy, or to change propellers. We just hold our breath for sport diving.
I know this is an older video but I am curious about the power set up. What size battery do you have this hooked up to? How long of use time do you get out of it before you need to swap batteries or recharge?
I forget. I think I already answered it here though. Read through and you might find the answer. The reason I forget is I just jumper it to the ships batteries and use it to clean the bottom. Temptress carries 1700ah so it's about infinity large for this use. You could work from the hp of the motor though to figure it out. Also I have a portable 50ah Lifepo4 battery that I always planned to use with it. So it's low enough to have that be practical. Again sorry but I honestly forgot the draw and I don't want to answer with a guess. I'd have to dig it out and run it to know. I'm still sick in bed. Sorry.
Barnacles are like dirty razor blades. They are really terrible if you aren't careful. They are so sharp you don't feel yourself getting cut and the cuts infect easily.
It depends on health and attitude. I know guys in their 70s doing it. I'm 56. You might want to start with a "ready" boat. Refitting an old boat is pretty physical sometimes. Harder then sailing!
I am 58 and 4 years ago I bought a 25 foot Top Hat yacht for $8K AUD , cheap to run and maintain about 50 years old already, built with really thick fibreglass because in those days it was better to be safe than sorry, (they are bluewater and have circumnavigated). I expect it will last another 50 years, but I know I won't be around then. Motor is a 5 HP outboard. Mast and rigging is 10 years old and needs replacing, which is great because now I can set it up with a Junk Rig, which is what I always planned to do because it makes sailing so easy. I was just waiting until I amortised my investment. It is a one-off expense because the junk rig mast can last for decades and without stay wires you have more usable deck space. You don't have the problem of keeping spare sails below so more room for living, it uses only one sail usually made out of canvas or dacron. With canvas sails you can circumnavigate the world 3 times before you need to change the sectional sails which you can do yourself, and you can jury rig repairs using tarpaulins, as there is no pressure in each of the cells, compared to a conventional sail that tear once and cannot be used. Helpful when in the pacific islands, no need to spend thousands shipping in a new sail. That is why you see old chinese junk rigs coming out of a typhoon with holes in their sails and they just keep on going like nothing happened, no problem. I will set it up to sail from the cockpit by rigging the lines back to the cockpit. Junk rigs are so easy to sail it makes a novice look like they have been sailing for 30 years and by pulling down the sail while simultaniously sipping coffee you can stop on a dime, try doing that in a conventional sailboat. In storms there is absolutely no need for running about the boat, just sip your coffee as you lower as much of the sail as you need at the last minute, it gives you the luxury of waiting to the last second. They say a junk rig can keep you sailing 10 years longer than a conventional rig which has you running up and down the boat in all sorts of weather, changing sails, reefing etc. so with a junk rig you should have many decades of sailing ahead of you. See Junk Rig Association.
I just got mine in the mail yesterday it says the same thing unfortunately I was so excited I didn't realize it until I hooked everything up and breathed off it for 8 minutes my lungs started hurting I went to disconnect the airline and noticed danger do not breath and I did have a water & particle separator filter on it. Puma should definitely have something about this on the website I've been trying to find a carbon filter to maybe help because returning this is going to cost almost as much as the compressor cost.
Hello friend and thanks for the video. Do you have to have special filters or anything special to make the air from this compressor safe to breath?? Thank you...
No real need. It has input filters and, being oiless, doesn't add anything dangerous. It is just compressing the same air you would be breathing on the surface.
Now you may be a genius and figured this out perfectly others aren’t so smart and this video mayyybe putting stupid ppl at risk who try this an drown buuut then again that is how natural selection works
If you use a compressor like this, to paint a surface for example, you have to add an oil separator because the oil of the compressor gets atomized and sent through the hose. Thus ruining the paint. I think that would be a must for the system. Thoughts?
I'm not on the boat now but I seem to remember it putting out loads of pressure. So deep isn't an issue. I'm not sure on the volume. Works fine with plenty of air for even hard work where I've tested it. I'd guess it should keep up to 60 feet easy. Having the tank helps. You have a few breaths in there and the hose. Do if breathing gets hard just swim up. If the compressor fails you have several breaths still available as long as you swim up.
Bayard Taylor Ahhh yes, the old Fear Mongering Sales Tactic. You'll no doubt scare some people into believing that, but not those who know how to get themselves educated on the subject. Considering the huge quantity of common sense that Clark has clearly demonstrated throughout all his videos, I'm sure he's done his homework on this.
The reason a 'real hookah rig' is expensive is because they try to lock down the price of things. Even getting a mask and snorkel online is cheaper than the same mask and snorkel from a dive shop. I've spent two days trying to get hold of the basic diving books for less money, and it's almost impossible. I walked up to a dive shop yesterday. They won't sell me the books unless I am "in their courses". I wonder why? LOL
@@Clarks-Adventure glad to hear, i use them for diving while i go spearhunting. Have you tried 2 people yet and maybe how deep you can comfortable go down to? Did order 1 compressor myself and gonna test it out in the end of jan. hoping i can reach 10m/2 people
No, so far I've only cleaned the bottom with it. The boat was anchored in 20 feet. I could breath easily at that depth but that's no test. And haven't tried the second regulator. When you find out the limits please tell me. I want to know and I'll put your findings in the description. If you do a video with the answer I'll link it up.
@@Clarks-Adventure finally in the province again and had some time testing it out. Sadly i didnt get that compressor because the seller changed the shipping price and no other decent 12v (with tank) avaible in my country. So i went with a 220v 0.75hp with an inverter instead (about the same strenght) Does run 2 people but after 1 hour it shutsdown by overheating then u wait 10 min to continue again Been down to about 7-10m to collect sand for concreate for the past 2 days and it made my life alot easier. Biggest issue i have is the hose folding.. i suppose if i choosed a bigger compressor that would be less likely bean issue but couldent find any good oilless that was any stronger (some combined 2/3 oilless "pumps" to achive more but then u use 2/3x the battery which aint optimal especially since it need to handle the surge startup power)
Are you using a pure sine wave inverter? If not that could be causing your overheating. Electric motors don't like stepped wave ac. They get hot. Sorry to hear about your hose issue. A bigger compressor won't help there. You just need hose that doesn't kink. I mention that in the video, it's VERY important. I had a hose kink with an old diy SSA system (someone else's) and nearly died. Good hose is vital.
The hose was left over from a "super snorkel" gas huccah unit. It's 3/8 hose and nylon garden hose fittings. I would recommend the same fittings they have worked flawlessly over the years. Make sure the hose you use doesn't kink. The diameter is not critical. The air in the hose will be at about 60psi so it flows a lot through a small hose. PS. I don't use hose clamps for obvious reasons. I did one repair with whipping line and a constrictor knot. Worked great.
@@Clarks-Adventure was curious about the fittings also. so the outles from the compressor is 3/8? and how about the mask the fitting is 3/8 also? (was gonna put quick connect all the way with filter and a T so i could attach 2 people) and i guess as hose it should be good enough with an "3/8" pressure washer hose aslong as its washed out. Sadly no competitive compressors for sale in my country or nearby so the compressor will endup at 350 :3
you have several 220v variants which u can use with inverter, its hard to find a 12v with tank. just make sure its an oilless design this is one of those (which you can see being used on alot of "compressors with tank") aliexpress (dot) com/item/4000053886656.html
I can get unlimited air fills for $20 a year. A few tanks on the surface is all I would need for several hours in shallow water. Clean, filtered, breathing quality air, without purchasing anything more than a longer hose.
Hey Clark, Your A Very Smart Guy! Another Point To Make Is Now You Have A Great Part / Full Time Side Job For Making Moneys While Your Out Free-Loading Around The World With All Them Other OLD RICH Peoples On All Their Fancy Boats That Would Rather Pay Someone To Do That Crappy Job For Them, ETC!!! LMAO Thanks #WillBoatScrapeForFood #BoatScrapersAreUs #EandCBoatJanitorialServices ;~)P
You've got it. It's good to have skills. I'm always in demand to fix refrigeration, engines, or electrical. General engineering (problem solving) as well. But, I'd have to be a pretty good friend before I'd clean someone else's boat bottom. That's one tough job.
@@Clarks-Adventure You & Me Are A LOT Alike, Except For I'm Your Senor A Few... Now Take That Hand Scrubbin Up A Knotch, Y Your Air Line & Add A 6'-8' To Use An Air Power Scrubber, Like A Air Buffer w/Velcro On Scotch-Brite Pads... I Invented It 25+ Years Ago... Along w/My Underwater Hydro-Power-Sprayer/Pressure Washer! LOL Back When I Bought My 3.5hp Briggs Gas Hookah From An Abalone Diver In San Diego Used For $150 w/2-Sets of 100' Hoses, Octopuses, Shorty Wet Suits & BCs! I Still Have It Here In My Trailered 30' C-C Catalina... ;~)P
No moisture separator ??? No air filter ??? You get a much better quality of air. I'm a submariner and air was one of my systems. You can't even imagine all the crap that is collected as you compress air. Message me if you want to know how to modify and install one.
Sure filters are a fine idea. Don't see why a water separator would be important though. Lungs are fine with moisture and the tank basically is one already.
Lots of risks using a compressor like that. Why not just buy a long hose and regulator. Rent a scuba tank for like $10 when you need to do something. Or even buy a tank, only about $150 and it would last hours at shallow depths. Refill it when your docked and near a dive shop.
@@Clarks-Adventure I respect your video, its clever and cheap. But the "blue" version you have of the PD1006 compressor in the non-breathing grade version. The yellow one sold with hookahs looks the same, but isnt the same internally.
@@Clarks-Adventure PUMA says PD1006 is not rated for breathing air. End of story. Is the yellow rated for breathing air? Maybe, dont know, dont care. Could it be? Possibly. Whats the difference? Who knows, maybe different lube, lead free solder, non toxic materials, etc. Point is, the compressor you are using specifically says not for breathing air. Oh and "We don't react well to unsupported claims", you just made the biggest unsupported claim by saying I'm selling the yellow compressor LOL. I'm just an average scuba diver who has worked in a dive store and has compressor knowledge. The compressor at my lds was upwards of $30,000 and theres a reason for that. You obviously have a problem with your ego and cant take constructive criticism.
I think this is very bad advice, because the parts in the compressor are not made for that use, little metal parts will come lose during time due to the heat (these type of compressors get very hot and above 150 degrees F) so your lungs will in the end be filled up with metal en grease stuff from the compressor. Do not use these type of compressors. and see the description of this type of compressors and you will find out that the manufacturer mentioned that this type of compressor is not suited for use as a breathing air compressor. And there is another problem the hose is much to long what can result in a to high volume of Nitrogen gas in your body what can result in unconscious and in inventively in dead!!! So again please do not use these compressor and self building breathing apparatus.
These things are not cheap for a reason. The right stuff protects your lungs. The filters cost more than the compressor. Please don’t try this at home.
@@Clarks-Adventure The fact that the compressor is oilless is what makes it possible and safe to breathe that air. You did mention that. However did you did not make that a point of emphasis. The oil bath type compressor can kill you if you try to use it.
Hey Clark... (old) commercial diver here & I have 2 words for you - FILTRATION SYSTEM !!! Dude, you are getting all kinds of metal microparticles from the compressor in your lungs let alone the fact that the compressor air intake could be close to a contaminant source, i.e. propane tanks, fuel tanks, solvents, combustion, etc, etc... You can make a cheap filtration system with a 6 - 8" PVC pipe 4 ft in length, two threaded caps, pack it with coffee filters and activated charcoal and some molecular sieve... Get a balanced 2nd stage reg that can breath well even at 80 - 100 psi, assuming you are going to be cleaning your boat at 2 -3 ft of water. Depending on use you can change the elements of your filter every 4 - 5 uses... We used to make our own 'emergency' backup filtration systems back in the day when I was working in Mexico in the 80's... It is not that difficult. Otherwise your lungs are going to pay the price...
Filtration does not need to be anything fancy its enough with a water/oil separator to remove the water generated when compressing the air and a micron filter to remove any type of small particles. Its an electrical oilless compressor that runs off a battery the air is the same as u breath on land.
to put it into perspective People work by grinding metal so they breath metal dust everyday (and wood dust) and people sit/work next to engines which makes them breath fuses (and those people still reach pension age) which is extreme conditions compared to a oilless electrical compressor out on the open water.
second stage scuba regulator is all the same go for the cheapest one and use the adjustment screw until you can breath without an air supply all it does is close the intake it should require no pressure to actually breath through it it just need a bit of suction whatever its 10 psi or 140 it will work just fine.
The filters ("activated charcoal") you are talking about is what they use for huge scuba compressors to achieve completely clean air and this is due to the fact that those compressors have oil in them to create the pressure required. This is nothing like that, there is no oil in the "pump" part of the compressor and the air passing through it have went through an air filter so the bad particles comes from the wear of the compressor and in worst case rust in the tank which with a micron filter and water/oil separator will be removed.
the diving community really have a tinfoil hat nowdays
Thanks abc!
I'm wondering, being in shallow water, couldn't you just have a hose attached to the boat well above 'water level' and breathe directly through it? Wouldn't it be the same difference as if your nose was at where you mounted it? In through nose and out through mouth into the open water so your not putting your exhausted breath back into the hose.
Water is really heavy. You couldn't do that comfortably more then a couple of feet down.
I came here to say the same thing, but also to wonder about all the commercially sold "hookah for diving" options. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that the $3000 hookahs that are "great for breath!" use the exact same parts and produce the exact same micro-particles in the airstream. At least with this DIY option you *can* add all kinds of filters. I don't think that's even an option on commercial dive hookahs.
I'm finding that every single technical question I ever had about cruising and surviving is eventually answered by Clark! Thanks so much!
You're welcome Joe
I remember bottom cleaning my Columbia 30 back in the day, one thing that helped with minimizing the critter clutter was to anchor the boat in a reasonable current and work from the downstream end (the stern) to the upstream end of the boat, and have all the gunk flowing under & away from us as we moved forward. I think it helped to some degree. That pullover cap plus earplugs are a great idea tho. Plus your DIY hookah which I think is awesome despite some of the comments.
Working in slight current is a good idea. Just not an option where I'm currently anchored. I could really see just fine, it was just hard to film through the "stuff".
Going back down this week to clean it better. Polish to add speed.
And thanks for your comment on hookah safety. I appreciate it.
"As you get older it gets harder and harder to do breathe hold dives". At Clark's age I don't believe I'd be concerned but I would not advise a young person to start doing this unless they want to edit that statement to "As you get older it gets harder and harder to simply breathe." The Oil less compressors are oil less in that they do not have an oil reservoir or sump which lubricates the rotating assembly however in disassembly it would be quickly discovered that the parts are coated in assembly lube as a preservative for both before and after manufacturing. It is a very small amount and diving a few times won't kill you but over a extended period you can imagine what the tiny particles of aluminum and lubricant will do to lungs.
Its good to keep the barnacles outside the hull instead of the inside.My 33 Morgan is growing them on the inside .It also took 2 gallons of paint at 300/gallon.Your probably takes[3] 1000 dollars worth. Plus an expensive haul out! I can see how handy that homemade hookah rig could be!!Great video!!Thanks for making it!!!!
Hate to be a downer but I would not use that rig up. Oil less does not mean that the air is breathing quality. Those cheap compressors shed all kinds of crap into the air which you can prove if you put a proper filter system on the end of it. It will foul in no time. You should filter it to be good enough to run air tools if you want them to last and they are a lot less picky than your lungs. There is a good reason the Bauer systems are expensive, it is because they will not ruin your lungs. Also, order some cutless gloves. They are made for butchers and people working with glass. Knitted out of kevlar. They really work.
There is an outfit using this same compressor sold as a hookah. They paint it yellow and charge 2 or 3 k for it.
But to each his own.
I like your suggestion about the gloves. I'm getting a pair. Cheap on Amazon
Mark Bernier yes. I agree with you. Very dangerous
I really hope that is not true. Certainly not in North America.
How difficult is it to fit a suitable filter? And at what cost? (Not that the cost of the filter will prevent one from buying it if it's a safety issue.) Tks
Came here to make this comment myself. I would definitely do more research and be very careful with the air quality that you’re breathing.
Great advice. I love seeing what you guys are up to.
Temptress is growing a beard and you give her a shave.
Clark after reading a few comments on air quality i recon you could make a cheep air water filter to take out any particles of metal from the compressor.
Mutch love
Just bought all the goodies to set up my system. I need to change out my prop and the diver wanted over $400, so I had a good excuse to spend a few hundred on the gear...Anyway, I think you guys are awesome and I appreciate what you do 🙏
Thanks.
I always wanted a good welding machine. Decided to put a solar arch on Temptress. Wonderful excuse to learn welding!!
As soon as I saw the title of your video, I thought it was an awful idea, because you'd be breathing in lubricant fumes. But you seem to have it covered with an oil less compressor. Great way to save money on equipment. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome. And yes you don't want to use the wrong type of compressor without using special oil and filter. The sea cucumber divers in the Puget sound use regular garage compressors with special oil. They are breathing with that system for many hours a day.
Just an FYI: That compressor is no longer on Amazon. I know its been a while since this video and you said it was hard to find but just wanted to let you know. Love you guys and greatly appreciate all your great videos. You've helped me SO much.
Thanks. If you find one elsewhere tell us and we will put it in the description.
To rob a bank with a yellow mask.
lol
But the savings you’ve taught us here are priceless (the compressor and all of that.)
Plus, the ending footage is a great perk.
Thanks a lot.
Nice work and excelent tips. Well done!
Thanks Jaco
Very good info
Excellent resource. Thank you.
You're very welcome Vincent.
What about air filter that your breathing
Wouldn't hurt. Feel free to add one.
My brother will use a power washer under water. Works great
I have followed your video, but also got two filters made for hookahs from an online dive shop. One goes at the compressor and one at regulator. My question, which I didn't see posted is what pressure should I set the regulator on the compressor too? Thank you for the excellent post.
I use about 75 psi.
I also drilled out the regulator hose fitting so it flows better. Not the valve just the brass fitting, on mine they were kinda small.
Perhaps a pair of cut gloves would come in handy for cleaning under the boat? I can't say I have ever personally used a pair but at work they are required for people in the kitchen to prevent injury while cutting food. They are fairly cheap (probably comparable in price to the ones you are using now) and I would think that they would last much longer (if not forever) instead of buying multiple pairs of gloves and still risking getting cut in the process. They may have other reasons why they would be impractical but I thought I would still mention it.
I bought a pair but haven't tried them yet.
thank you so much for this video and your advice on the equipment to make a SSA! much appreciated!
You're very welcome Dave. Did you build one?
@@Clarks-Adventure yes I have built one just not used it as yet!
Be careful with that compressor you'll need to modify a airfiliter
If anyone has questions like I did I found this helpful so I thought I would post it.
Q: Do I have to buy a compressor specifically designed for breathing air?
A: No. While we would like to say yes, the answer is no as long as the compressor is well maintained and has good, clean ambient intake air free from gas and particulate contamination and is not using PAO or harmful synthetic lubricating oils. Breathing air filtration package and CO monitor must be used on existing compressors.
Q: What is the difference between a breathing air compressor and a plant air compressor?
A: Breathing air compressor systems are designed with respirator use as the focused utility. The size of the compressor, FDA Food-grade lubricating oil, Grade - D filtration, CO monitor, refrigerated dryer, receiver tank with condensation drain, and air distribution system must be specifically sized for the number of workers and types of respirators in use. A plant compressor is not.
Q: Must I use an oilless air compressor for breathing air supply?
A: No. With the advent of the FDA Food-grade oil and the advances in compressor and breathing air filtration standard rotary screw, piston, and vane type compressor can be used when filtered with the proper filtration.
Q: How many workers can I hook up to a compressor?
A: This depends on the respirator used. Every NIOSH approved respirator MUST free flow a minimum of 15 CFM (cubic feet per minute). Constant flow hoods have a flow range of 6 - 15 CFM. Full face constant flow respirators have a flow range of 4 - 15 CFM. Positive pressure, pressure demand respirators have a flow range of 4 - 15 CFM. Pressures vary from 6 - 120 PSI (pounds per square inch). Consult the respirator manufacturer for specific pressures, flows, and hose lengths. Take the number of workers or respirators and multiply by the desired flow required at the pressure needed by the respirator and the answer will give you the necessary CFM for the compressor.
Q: What is the difference between pressure and flow?
A: Pressure is force described in PSI, Pascals, or Bars. Flow is the volume or quantity of air described in CFM (cubic feet per minute), liters per minute, cubic meters per minute or hour.
Q: What is an ambient air pump?
A: An ambient air pump is an oilless vane air compressor operating at low pressure not exceeding 15 PSIg operating constant flow respirators only.
Q: Who regulates the use of compressors?
A: OSHA in their Documents CFR29 - 1910.134 establishes the protocol for compressors used for breathing air.
Q: Who regulates respirator use?
A: NIOSH.
Q: Can I buy an explosion proof compressor?
A: Yes. The real question is whether the the compressor is going to "breathe" or intake the ambient explosive atmosphere. Compressors are a machined set of lungs and cannot intake combustible, noxious, or volatile gases that could injure, harm, or kill a human if inhaled. While we manufacture explosion proof compressor systems, the air intake must be remoted to a clean air environment to ensure worker safety if the compressor is to be placed in a volatile atmosphere. Consult Customer Service for recommendations.
Awesome idea
Great Job !!!👍🏽✌️
Pretty cool setup, Is there any concern with quality of the air.....you never mentioned any filtering?
Not so sure I'd like bugs crawling all over me.....tell me they fall right off with a rinse of water?
Cheerz!
The compressor has a pre filter. One can always add filtration if they want.
Thats an amazing idea and because of your video I actually ordered one and just received my 12v oiless puma today. I have a question for you, i set up my water, particle filter and 2nd stage but after breathing for about 8 minutes my lungs started hurting so I went to disconnect the air line and noticed a DANGER breathing Hazard sticker on my compressor. Have you noticed anything like that or had any ill effects with it ?? Thank you
If you are having issues I'd not use it. Maybe they changed something??
But no. In fact a friend just used mine over the last two days. Cleaned my dinghy, propeller and rudder of the yacht and inspected the mooring.
Never had a problem here.
@@Clarks-Adventure okay great thank you for the info. there was nothing specified about breathing or NOT breathing in the details or specifications from
The Puma dealer and as mentioned I didn't even realize it until my lungs started hurting and I went to disconnect the air hose and paid a little closer attention to the danger sign DO NOT use for breathing so apparently something has changed. Unfortunately it looks like I'll be returning it beautiful unit though. Thanks again.
100% need an inline air filter. But cool idea!
Of course feel free to filter.
Curious, what do you think you will be trapping in that filter?
Me considering boat life, see the bugs, now have the hebejibe! Lol
They stay happily on the boat unless you scrape them off their home. Normal diving you never see them.
Salt water is so much "less gross" then a fresh water lake.
I dont know if you will get this. I had to do get a compressor for breathing air. I used a fireman mask for it was positive pressure. I had put three types of filters on it. A water separator, a carbon filter and and one to remove water from the air " silica". I dont think the water separator worked. It was water, silica and carbon in that order. There was a nice difference in breathing the air.✌😉
Great Video. Did you add any filters to your compressor, or go straight to the hose?
I have a screen in mine. Add any filter you like.
Someone made a wonderful comment here describing why filters are not necessarily. The Crux of his comment was people survive angle grinding metal. Lots of metal dust in that air!
Like anything, use your own judgement.
Great post Clark 😊
Thanks Gef
Great video. I love the ones that help save money rather than telling me how to spend millions of things I don't need. What are your thoughts on boat surveys for cheap old boats? I know quite a bit about boats and everyone wants me to pay a fortune to get second opinion from a surveyor. what are your thoughts on the subject?
I didn't hire one.
This was a few years ago. Has it proven to be safe for long term use [ a few hours ] and at up to, or down to lol, say, 10'?
Sure I use it all the time. While we were off the boat over the last 7 months it was used by my friend Steve.
Steve is one of the original guys that started PADI. He is known as Papa PADI.
He feels it's safe enough to use himself.
@@Clarks-Adventure I had to come back and give that a tick, so no 1st stage regulator needed and safe for 15' operation?
Deeper than that. It does have a first stage. It's part of the compressor. It's just not made by us diver.
@@Clarks-Adventure So the pressure control on the compressor is or works as the 1 st stage? I don't know much about scuba, but I'm very cautious. Better safe than sorry/dead and " She'll be right " [ I'm Australian] is a stupid phyilosophy.
Stay in the top 10 feet then.
Going deeper without understanding how breathing underwater works can kill you 3 different ways.
That wouldn't be the device killing you it would be lack of training.
Awesome video…
Thanks Ronnie
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Is that air safe. To breath ? Is it filtered
Hey, this is actually what I do for living around the rocks for people who figure it's cheaper than hauling out.
Good to be your own boss, right?
@@Clarks-Adventure Oh yes sir, its extremely profitable too because there is so few competition where I'm from because it's all darkwater and no one likes it. Lol.
That's about the best example of what I'm talking about when I say "don't be a waiter". Good on you.
Would you consider sharing our playlists on social media? We'd really appreciate the new subscribers.
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I've watched this video a couple of times already and read through the comments a couple of times as well as checking out quite a few other videos of people cobbling together their own inexpensive hookahs. I think this is a great way to save money, but would also like to find out if there's any way to just attach a really good quality air filter and water separator to calm the nerves of those who keep saying this is so dangerous. Some of these videos on youtube are recommending to just pick up some hose at Harbor Freight. How difficult would it be to just attach a filter right before it gets to your regulator? That way everything is filtered, right?
Sure one can filter. I'd do it at the start of the hose where it leaves the tank. Water separator is unnecessary as humans tolerate water just fine.
This compressor has an intake filter already and since it is oiless I'm not sure what one would be trying to catch. I like to think that the compressor isn't throwing chunks of metal or if it does they settle in the tank.
I guess one could just add a bit of 1 inch or so pipe filled with cotton at the start of the hose.
As for hose. It's vital that what you choose can't kink. A kinked hose will shut down your air right away. Unlike a compressor failure which gives you several more breaths.
@@Clarks-Adventure You will want a water filter as vaporized water in the air supply can freeze your regulator up due to the pressure drop
Not necessary. People have been using similar systems for MANY years with no issues. The compressor is only taking the air up about 70 psi. And the regulator is in water which is a great heat sink. Nothing gets that cold.
"Humans tolerate water."
As does mold and rust.
Which would both build up inside that system.
SCUBA bottles require inspections.
*Commercial Diver here
@@homeslipper Here again, wouldn't a good 5 micron filter solve the problem? When the hose, fittings, etc. are so cheap, they're basically disposable anyways, no? I live out in the country where mold and rust is everywhere. Other than black mold, I don't see the problem especially if one has a good filter.
Where did you get the main hose? Thanks for sharing. Prayers
It's a hose I have had a long time.
Rubber diaphragm compressor is the way to go for a cheap hookah rig.
Nice thrifty solution. How much battery power does it consume: ie, amps draw and typical amps*hrs utilized per cleaning.
I haven't put a meter on it yet. I'd guess it averages about 40 amps at 13 volts.
Takes from 1 to 3 hours to clean the bottom well. Depends on what is growing there.
Question on current draw. I'm assuming you're using house batteries, I'd personally (since I'm going to do this) get a portable battery, and am thinking that a 100ah battery would last roughly an hour considering you said 40A (so.... you don't want to kill your battery completely, not even deep cycles, and an hour would use 40AH so just above 1/2 power draw). On your system (again assuming) house battery, do you have solar etc hooked up to charge your systems?
Yes, it doesn't dent the voltage of our 1500ah bank with the panels charging.
If I was going mobile I'd think about a lithium. Spend some of your compressor savings on a battery that could also help out your house bank when you aren't diving.
I'm learning a lot about them now. Possible project coming up.
If you use a LiFe battery as Clark (below) suggests, then 40 A for about an hour is about 40 AH. This is because the LiFe battery has very little internal resistance. BUT if you go with a lead acid battery, then the consumption will be a lot more than 40 AH. This is because the energy consumed from the battery includes the energy loss due to the battery's internal resistance. This energy loss goes as the square of the current times the resistance(E_loss = I^2 R). A 100 AH rating comes from 5A over 20 hrs, so for a current 8 times larger (5*8=40A), the energy loss in heating up the battery increases not by a factor of 8 but more like a factor of 8^2=64. Ok, it a bit more complicated than this because the resistance is not constant. Another reason against a single lead acid battery, would be the voltage drop of the battery ( V_battery = EMF_TrueVoltage - I *R). That is, a large current results in a large drop in voltage, leaving too little to run the motor (or worse run it slowly while but killing the motor faster).
Would/could this be safe down to about 10 meters?? I would like to hang down and meditate and do Timelapse’s. I’ve heard of the Nemo blu3 and I’m now wondering what would the safety difference be as I don’t want air bubbles in my blood. I read this system is only safe for shallow diving like hull cleaning.
It's fine. The question is are you safe?
You need to know what you are doing. The easiest way is to take a PADI class.
Is it safe to breath the air from that compressor? I thought the dive compressors were specialized for breathing.
Some people add a filter but it already has one for the incoming air.
The key is it's an "oiless" compressor. The machine oil that is often used can cause problems for your lungs.
I have since seen a commercial setup using this same compressor "painted yellow" for like 3 grand.
@@Clarks-Adventure thanks
Great idea but I would want to add a air filter. Even though it says oil less compressor, you still have to have a moisture filter to paint cars so your lungs would need to have the filter as well
Lungs are good with water. Paint isn't.
Feel free to add a filter. I just want to know what you think you need to filter out.
Did you watch the video
@@Clarks-Adventure did you watch the video
What video? Ours? Yes we watched it we filmed and edited it. I'm confused.
@@Clarks-Adventure sir, I'm just saying that a air compressor even though it says oil less it still creates moisture in the tank and if you have a 20 dollar moisture filter installed before the air hose. You will prevent any and all of the bad moisture that will occur in the tank giving you a better chance of not getting build up in the tank. I apologize for asking you if you watched the video because I didn't realize you were the one asking me the question. I'm just trying to say that you have a great idea but I would add a filter for a extra safety precaution.
Great video. Can you run more than 1 air line at the same time with it?
I haven't yet but we will. It should produce enough sir for two to work on a boat but I don't expect it will make enough for two to go very deep.
This comment was made 1 year ago and was just checking to see if you had tried a second airline yet? We will be in fresh water no more than 8-10 feet deep, will this compressor work for that?
Haven't tried two yet but I see no problems. With me alone and exerting myself the compressor was cycling off and on. It had plenty of capacity for boat bottom depths.
We free dive for pleasure and hauled the boat last summer so we haven't had to clean the bottom since this video was shot.
I wonder how you could mount that and a battery into a float? Any ideas? How long was your yellow hose?
Inner tube it the usual way. But I always seem to dive with the dinghy so that seems safer.
I have 2 100ft hoses.
Honestly I mostly just leave it in the yacht and use it to clean the bottom of the yacht or dinghy, or to change propellers. We just hold our breath for sport diving.
Like your boat!
Thanks Joao
What depth are you generally working at? I'm a pool repair guy but I have been using tanks and Soooo much extra weight as well.
Honestly I just use it to clean the hull. So no deeper then a pool. But it will go deeper.
a 5 lb.weight belt and safety line?
I know this is an older video but I am curious about the power set up. What size battery do you have this hooked up to? How long of use time do you get out of it before you need to swap batteries or recharge?
I forget. I think I already answered it here though. Read through and you might find the answer.
The reason I forget is I just jumper it to the ships batteries and use it to clean the bottom. Temptress carries 1700ah so it's about infinity large for this use.
You could work from the hp of the motor though to figure it out.
Also I have a portable 50ah Lifepo4 battery that I always planned to use with it. So it's low enough to have that be practical.
Again sorry but I honestly forgot the draw and I don't want to answer with a guess. I'd have to dig it out and run it to know. I'm still sick in bed. Sorry.
@@Clarks-Adventure Thanks for the info. Get well soon!
Did you use any kind of filtration system?
Just a screen. Feel free to add any filter you want.
But have some idea what you are wanting to filter away.
Does the suction work on thick bottom paint
Well. Yes. Byard it really does. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
is the barnicles dangerous to your skin..or is it just a matter of a worm shower to wash and clean your skin to rid them from your body?
Barnacles are like dirty razor blades. They are really terrible if you aren't careful.
They are so sharp you don't feel yourself getting cut and the cuts infect easily.
What was the output pressure on the air tank?
About 70 psi I think. It's adjustable
@@Clarks-Adventure I think you can go way below that for surface job
Yep. Anything under 100psi will work with the second stage regulars
Are you still using this?
Sure. Whenever I clean the bottom.
Hey Clark, sorry If I missed it, mind telling how old you are? I'm 60 and wondering if its a late start live aboard.
It depends on health and attitude. I know guys in their 70s doing it.
I'm 56.
You might want to start with a "ready" boat. Refitting an old boat is pretty physical sometimes. Harder then sailing!
I am 58 and 4 years ago I bought a 25 foot Top Hat yacht for $8K AUD , cheap to run and maintain about 50 years old already, built with really thick fibreglass because in those days it was better to be safe than sorry, (they are bluewater and have circumnavigated). I expect it will last another 50 years, but I know I won't be around then. Motor is a 5 HP outboard. Mast and rigging is 10 years old and needs replacing, which is great because now I can set it up with a Junk Rig, which is what I always planned to do because it makes sailing so easy. I was just waiting until I amortised my investment. It is a one-off expense because the junk rig mast can last for decades and without stay wires you have more usable deck space. You don't have the problem of keeping spare sails below so more room for living, it uses only one sail usually made out of canvas or dacron. With canvas sails you can circumnavigate the world 3 times before you need to change the sectional sails which you can do yourself, and you can jury rig repairs using tarpaulins, as there is no pressure in each of the cells, compared to a conventional sail that tear once and cannot be used. Helpful when in the pacific islands, no need to spend thousands shipping in a new sail. That is why you see old chinese junk rigs coming out of a typhoon with holes in their sails and they just keep on going like nothing happened, no problem. I will set it up to sail from the cockpit by rigging the lines back to the cockpit. Junk rigs are so easy to sail it makes a novice look like they have been sailing for 30 years and by pulling down the sail while simultaniously sipping coffee you can stop on a dime, try doing that in a conventional sailboat. In storms there is absolutely no need for running about the boat, just sip your coffee as you lower as much of the sail as you need at the last minute, it gives you the luxury of waiting to the last second. They say a junk rig can keep you sailing 10 years longer than a conventional rig which has you running up and down the boat in all sorts of weather, changing sails, reefing etc. so with a junk rig you should have many decades of sailing ahead of you. See Junk Rig Association.
@@michaeldemarillac9992 Wow love the out of the box thinking.
I am 65 and started what I dont understand about people what does age have to do with anything? do what you want stop worrying about age geeez
I bought that compressor and right on that compressor it says do not use for breathing air
I just got mine in the mail yesterday it says the same thing unfortunately I was so excited I didn't realize it until I hooked everything up and breathed off it for 8 minutes my lungs started hurting I went to disconnect the airline and noticed danger do not breath and I did have a water & particle separator filter on it. Puma should definitely have something about this on the website I've been trying to find a carbon filter to maybe help because returning this is going to cost almost as much as the compressor cost.
I use the tank but changed out the compressor with a breathing air compressor and a breathing air filter
If you need to tell them that they need flippers, then you do not need to be telling them how to assemble a dive system!
Hello friend and thanks for the video. Do you have to have special filters or anything special to make the air from this compressor safe to breath?? Thank you...
No real need. It has input filters and, being oiless, doesn't add anything dangerous. It is just compressing the same air you would be breathing on the surface.
Those little bugs were everywhere!! Is it just your location?
No they are way worse in Tampa Bay. Not so bad here. I've had it so bad I couldn't tell the color of my wetsuit.
@@Clarks-Adventure ...sooo uncool!!
How about a 110 system from Home Depot. My boat has 110 and a generator also.
You have to make sure it's the right kind of compressor head. The motor isn't important but the wrong compressor head will mess up your lungs.
great video thanks...
Now you may be a genius and figured this out perfectly others aren’t so smart and this video mayyybe putting stupid ppl at risk who try this an drown buuut then again that is how natural selection works
If you use a compressor like this, to paint a surface for example, you have to add an oil separator because the oil of the compressor gets atomized and sent through the hose. Thus ruining the paint. I think that would be a must for the system. Thoughts?
There is no oil in this compressor. None.
whats depth can you go down to? x
I'm not on the boat now but I seem to remember it putting out loads of pressure. So deep isn't an issue. I'm not sure on the volume. Works fine with plenty of air for even hard work where I've tested it. I'd guess it should keep up to 60 feet easy.
Having the tank helps. You have a few breaths in there and the hose. Do if breathing gets hard just swim up. If the compressor fails you have several breaths still available as long as you swim up.
There’s a reason that the hookah is expensive. It saves your life ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Bayard Taylor Ahhh yes, the old Fear Mongering Sales Tactic. You'll no doubt scare some people into believing that, but not those who know how to get themselves educated on the subject. Considering the huge quantity of common sense that Clark has clearly demonstrated throughout all his videos, I'm sure he's done his homework on this.
The reason a 'real hookah rig' is expensive is because they try to lock down the price of things. Even getting a mask and snorkel online is cheaper than the same mask and snorkel from a dive shop. I've spent two days trying to get hold of the basic diving books for less money, and it's almost impossible. I walked up to a dive shop yesterday. They won't sell me the books unless I am "in their courses". I wonder why? LOL
i recommend using the "knife proof" gloves you can buy very cheaply. they dont look fancy but you will never be cut nor do they break easily
Thanks, I have bought some for this trip
@@Clarks-Adventure glad to hear, i use them for diving while i go spearhunting.
Have you tried 2 people yet and maybe how deep you can comfortable go down to?
Did order 1 compressor myself and gonna test it out in the end of jan. hoping i can reach 10m/2 people
No, so far I've only cleaned the bottom with it. The boat was anchored in 20 feet. I could breath easily at that depth but that's no test. And haven't tried the second regulator.
When you find out the limits please tell me. I want to know and I'll put your findings in the description. If you do a video with the answer I'll link it up.
@@Clarks-Adventure finally in the province again and had some time testing it out.
Sadly i didnt get that compressor because the seller changed the shipping price and no other decent 12v (with tank) avaible in my country. So i went with a 220v 0.75hp with an inverter instead (about the same strenght)
Does run 2 people but after 1 hour it shutsdown by overheating then u wait 10 min to continue again
Been down to about 7-10m to collect sand for concreate for the past 2 days and it made my life alot easier.
Biggest issue i have is the hose folding.. i suppose if i choosed a bigger compressor that would be less likely bean issue but couldent find any good oilless that was any stronger (some combined 2/3 oilless "pumps" to achive more but then u use 2/3x the battery which aint optimal especially since it need to handle the surge startup power)
Are you using a pure sine wave inverter? If not that could be causing your overheating. Electric motors don't like stepped wave ac. They get hot.
Sorry to hear about your hose issue. A bigger compressor won't help there. You just need hose that doesn't kink. I mention that in the video, it's VERY important. I had a hose kink with an old diy SSA system (someone else's) and nearly died. Good hose is vital.
what size dive hose and fittings are you using to hook up to that compressor? Thanks
The hose was left over from a "super snorkel" gas huccah unit. It's 3/8 hose and nylon garden hose fittings.
I would recommend the same fittings they have worked flawlessly over the years. Make sure the hose you use doesn't kink. The diameter is not critical. The air in the hose will be at about 60psi so it flows a lot through a small hose.
PS. I don't use hose clamps for obvious reasons. I did one repair with whipping line and a constrictor knot. Worked great.
@@Clarks-Adventure was curious about the fittings also. so the outles from the compressor is 3/8? and how about the mask the fitting is 3/8 also? (was gonna put quick connect all the way with filter and a T so i could attach 2 people)
and i guess as hose it should be good enough with an "3/8" pressure washer hose aslong as its washed out.
Sadly no competitive compressors for sale in my country or nearby so the compressor will endup at 350 :3
Is that compressor. Made for diving ?
Nope but there is a company selling this same compressor as a hookah
Looking for alternative compressors available in europe, anyone?
you have several 220v variants which u can use with inverter, its hard to find a 12v with tank. just make sure its an oilless design
this is one of those (which you can see being used on alot of "compressors with tank")
aliexpress (dot) com/item/4000053886656.html
I can get unlimited air fills for $20 a year. A few tanks on the surface is all I would need for several hours in shallow water. Clean, filtered, breathing quality air, without purchasing anything more than a longer hose.
Sounds like a good deal.
But as voyaging sailors we can't just go to a dive shop so this works for us.
Please suggest a 110 volt compressor for the same purpose.
Wim Hof Method let's you hold your breath longer
Sure but not as long as a hukka.
It says right on the compressor tank do not use for breathing air
Like.
Hey Clark, Your A Very Smart Guy! Another Point To Make Is Now You Have A Great Part / Full Time Side Job For Making Moneys While Your Out Free-Loading Around The World With All Them Other OLD RICH Peoples On All Their Fancy Boats That Would Rather Pay Someone To Do That Crappy Job For Them, ETC!!! LMAO Thanks #WillBoatScrapeForFood #BoatScrapersAreUs #EandCBoatJanitorialServices ;~)P
You've got it. It's good to have skills. I'm always in demand to fix refrigeration, engines, or electrical. General engineering (problem solving) as well. But, I'd have to be a pretty good friend before I'd clean someone else's boat bottom. That's one tough job.
@@Clarks-Adventure You & Me Are A LOT Alike, Except For I'm Your Senor A Few... Now Take That Hand Scrubbin Up A Knotch, Y Your Air Line & Add A 6'-8' To Use An Air Power Scrubber, Like A Air Buffer w/Velcro On Scotch-Brite Pads... I Invented It 25+ Years Ago... Along w/My Underwater Hydro-Power-Sprayer/Pressure Washer! LOL Back When I Bought My 3.5hp Briggs Gas Hookah From An Abalone Diver In San Diego Used For $150 w/2-Sets of 100' Hoses, Octopuses, Shorty Wet Suits & BCs! I Still Have It Here In My Trailered 30' C-C Catalina... ;~)P
That would cut way down in the labor.
So it’s just a car air compressor
Yes but one with the right kind of compressor head. Don't use an oiled type without special precautions.
Oh mein gott, no!!!! Wtf are those worms!!??
Trust me you don't want them in your ears!
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No moisture separator ??? No air filter ??? You get a much better quality of air. I'm a submariner and air was one of my systems. You can't even imagine all the crap that is collected as you compress air. Message me if you want to know how to modify and install one.
Sure filters are a fine idea.
Don't see why a water separator would be important though. Lungs are fine with moisture and the tank basically is one already.
I would love to know how to modify and install one? You have details?
Grody!
if you are carrying this equipment onboard do yourself a favor and use it more frequently. That bottom is gross.
Yeah, it gets that way when you don't move for a while but it doesn't hurt anything. -C
Lots of risks using a compressor like that. Why not just buy a long hose and regulator. Rent a scuba tank for like $10 when you need to do something. Or even buy a tank, only about $150 and it would last hours at shallow depths. Refill it when your docked and near a dive shop.
Self sufficiency. And no risk.
@@Clarks-Adventure I respect your video, its clever and cheap. But the "blue" version you have of the PD1006 compressor in the non-breathing grade version. The yellow one sold with hookahs looks the same, but isnt the same internally.
What is the difference?
Seems like you are the one selling the yellow one. Please tell me what is different. We don't react well to unsupported claims here.
@@Clarks-Adventure PUMA says PD1006 is not rated for breathing air. End of story. Is the yellow rated for breathing air? Maybe, dont know, dont care. Could it be? Possibly. Whats the difference? Who knows, maybe different lube, lead free solder, non toxic materials, etc. Point is, the compressor you are using specifically says not for breathing air.
Oh and "We don't react well to unsupported claims", you just made the biggest unsupported claim by saying I'm selling the yellow compressor LOL. I'm just an average scuba diver who has worked in a dive store and has compressor knowledge. The compressor at my lds was upwards of $30,000 and theres a reason for that. You obviously have a problem with your ego and cant take constructive criticism.
I think this is very bad advice, because the parts in the compressor are not made for that use, little metal parts will come lose during time due to the heat (these type of compressors get very hot and above 150 degrees F) so your lungs will in the end be filled up with metal en grease stuff from the compressor. Do not use these type of compressors. and see the description of this type of compressors and you will find out that the manufacturer mentioned that this type of compressor is not suited for use as a breathing air compressor. And there is another problem the hose is much to long what can result in a to high volume of Nitrogen gas in your body what can result in unconscious and in inventively in dead!!! So again please do not use these compressor and self building breathing apparatus.
Boy your bottom paint is not working
These things are not cheap for a reason. The right stuff protects your lungs. The filters cost more than the compressor. Please don’t try this at home.
Please comment or update on Why this works. That is the elephant in the room.
I know. Others don't.
It works because it delivers breathable air to you at exactly the right pressure while you are underwater.
Maybe I don't understand your question.
@@Clarks-Adventure
The fact that the compressor is oilless is what makes it possible and safe to breathe that air. You did mention that. However did you did not make that a point of emphasis. The oil bath type compressor can kill you if you try to use it.