For real tho idk know why people would be mad at this. This game has a completely different story line than the og series and the oc’s in the trailer make the game more interesting
OCs that don't explore/ aren't based on established concepts and lore of the IP only damages it. I'm glad NM at least realizes this and are making OCs for the underexplored races from the IP such as the goddess clan, and that is completely different and marginally better than random OCs like the Catastrophes and even Ragnarok.
@@BeatsPH No it wasn't, we have 0 context on what the story or new original characters are about, this isn't "criticism" because it isn't based in any real fact or existing knowledge, but just blind hatred. Stop embarrassing yourselves.
@BeatsPH Maybe it's not you but you can see on twitter, reddit or even in your comment sections that people are already saying the game is shit just because there's OCs in it
@@TheBoltMaster456 Thats the problem, we have no context! Ending a trailer with a random fairy like were all supposed to cheer is bad. We as Fans can call that out, thats what criticizing is. Its not Blind hatred when Netmarble has done 2... 2 OC storylines that have failed, thats why people are worried. When Tioreh got revealed in game (Before it was confirmed she was King daughter) Why didnt people go crazy with them adding OC Characters? Its cause at that time, the idea of OC characters wasnt as bad as it is now. Grand Cross added too many OC units this year with 2 of them replacing our UR Festivals. I myself am open to the Idea of OC now, just like how i was with Ragnarok being added to Grand Cross but thats only because of the info Kevin dropped on Discord... Its netmarble job to convince the Fans. Until then people calling Netmarble out is fair and people on the other side need to realize it isnt 'blind hatred'
@@Jamie-xr7eh I think its fair that people are worried and yea people are going over the top but its because netmarble hasnt giving much away not only regarding the 7DS story part of Origin. 4KOA Arthur is apparently the main villain but they havent shown that, what they have shown is some OC stuff with no context so all we can assume is its similar to Ragnarok & The catastrophes. Kevin says the OC's in Origin are actually good and i believe him but not everyone is in the discord or saw all the stuff he said about the OC's and unfortunately wont have their minds changed. Just gotta wait for more info next year and im sure they will cook
OC's are fine so long as they're based within the lore and world of the series. Ragnarok in Grand Cross is fine as it's a spin-off and does not pertain to Grand Cross' main story. But 7DS Origin's story isn't based on the anime/manga, it's an entirely original story taking place before 4KoA but after 7DS. To think that OC's weren't going to be a thing, especially with such a limited roster of relevant characters, is extremely naive and short sighted. What I'm saying is, keep an open mind and don't just blindly hate.
Lets get something straight the whole drama about Ocs is people worrying that they're gonna get treated the same way they did in GC. But we don't know that yet so we shouldn't judge. But OCs are important in a FREE-ROAM game just like Kevin mentioned to fill the composition and story. A free-roam original game means original environment, original monsters, original npcs AND Original characters. And one thing people forgot is that Rintarou Ikeda (the scriptwritter for the Seven Deadly Sins anime) is part of the staff working on the Origins story so I'm not going to worry right away 🤞
Anyone complaining are adequate people who understand obvious intentions to use popular SDS name to promote their dull OC’s. They never cared about making good SDS game, if they were originally making a game about their own characters, then no one would play it.
@ this right here proves my point most of the characters in this anime are literal GARBAGE in terms of design, powers, backstory etc there is literally 8 good characters that people actually care about in this whole show so making new OCS with better powers , depth , design and so on is the smart and ONLY move clown
@@muradkhaled5707 Crazy how fcked up yr brain works lmao and all imma say is if you feel that way about 7ds characters and OCs then u should definitely not play a 7DS game but go play some Original Game
@muradkhaled5707 💀💀💀 Netmarble's OC's are even worse bro. It doesn't if you like show or not. If they make game with Seven Deadly Sins name, they should make it about SDS (and 4KOA). When I go to the Japanese restaurant, I want to taste Japanese food, not Italian. Here's the same situation. When I play SDS game I want to see SDS characters, not some random dudes that they created. So if you don't like SDS show - why on earth you even want to play this game? Just to see OC's? Then it's a very strange logic, go and find some projects with literally no SDS characters and enjoy it
@@titan9097 bro is a clown fam just get lost already i love this anime but it doesn’t change the fact that is contains an OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT OF GARBAGE CHARACTERS get it through your thick skull i wanna play with the cool characters with the 7ds universe and some other cool designed characters with better weapons, powers than fuking GRIAMORE if you’re that butt hurt about the OCS then don’t play the game and go play a game with fully on anime only characters genius
Nobody wants to play the 7DS story for the 3rd time we've already seen it. There is literally no problem with having a new story that gets adequate dev time because it's the sole content as opposed to getting a fraction of it because it's along side two other stories (Rag, Disaster, 7DS story in GC). This is just the 7DS playerbase (or mostly just beats) complaining about non issues
No one has ever said we want to play the same story. From day 1, 3 years ago, we knew they wasn't doing the same story, that's never been the problem. I think you should watch the video.
@BeatsPH Then why complain abt OCs if you know it's going to happen anyway? A new story, while it doesn't require new characters is benefitted by them and it makes it easier to write that story. This anti OC tirade you and a select few of gc youtubers have used to scapegoat the game's poor performance is getting stale.
@@imurdad1328 In the video i talk about it. Im actually for OC now because of the added context one of the Devs have given, which is why i made this video. The reason why we was worried about OC was because of how much they have taken over in Grand Cross and they are now actively taking away from our 7DS/4koa content. 2 OC Story lines that are bad and even this year, 2 of them taking the slots of our UR Festivals when they could've been Characters 7DS Fans have wanted for years. Not a single RUclipsr has ever said OCs are the reason Grand Cross is failing or getting Stale, it is true that its one of the reason but far from the only one. Edit: Also we knew its was an Original Story but we didnt actually know OC Characters would be in it. Funny enough had they shown OC Characters during the reveal a few years ago then it actually wouldn't be a problem because at the time, most Players liked OCs its only with in the last 1-2 years that OC's have been a problem in Grand Cross.
I'll do a prediction with the story. The story will be from the perspective of an OC, the first major plotpoint will be with OCs aswell, now since the sins are legends the goal would be to find them and ask for their help, then after the arc is finished, we'll discover that Arthur is behind this and a bigger overarching plot, and by that point the two worlds would be meshed well. I guess the main question we have to ask is who will be the player MC, like Genshin's Traveler or we start with the gang.
Judging by all of the trailers we’ve seen of this game it’s pretty much already been established that tristan will be the main character and if the mc really is going to be an oc than that character would’ve had more screen time in the trailers
OCs in Grandcross wr never liked the majority of the community Hated the 1st OCs because around that time it's when NM started fckn up a bit by not releasing existing lore wise characters like for example Indira Derrieri and Indura Monspeet ,saying that the majority liked them equals to say the Majority liked the Stranger Things Collab when it dropped lol Anyways people didn't like them they got attached to them it's different if u play this game for over 5 years u just start to accept everything , on that note the 2nd OCs from Ragnarok wr indeed Hype heck the Trailer they made, made us believe it was a Movie or a Series they made like it was crazy they handled that pretty well ngl and the chars in-game are still awesome but the thing is u know just saying (Liked or Not Liked the main Point still stands "They Always Could of Been 7DS Character Variations instead of OCs) u Think that if in the 7DS game I'm playing I get a Festival Banner with Demon Form Guila Instead of Hel I wouldn't be hyped as fuck? I mean c'mon now
Making headcanon for existing characters isn't much different than making original characters, just sayin. Most people wouldn't be hype foe a new Guila.
@TheBoltMaster456 that is far than incorrect even if u try to sound intelligent that doesn't help yr case the Game is Called Seven Deadly Sins GrandCross named after the anime Seven Deadly Sins people who prefer only OC characters should go to Genshin Impact and other such games the majority that play the game are hyped for the characters from this game and ofc for Collab characters nobody puts the OCs above them I've been more than 5 years in this game I'm apart of 10 Grandcross discord servers and u can find around 10 people amongst them who actually like OC characters over anything else in the game and to be frank they are as stubborn as the 2 people here that try to defend em and I say "try" because saying that OC chars are liked more than Main Anime IP characters is just a lie and it's not helping your case in defending the OCs u know u could just say I like OCs that's all nobody would care to reply back to you they'd only leave a like appreciate yr point of view and let u live with yr preferences but no u gotta come here argue and state stuff that is incorrect sorry but I find that repulsive
To put it into a perspective Animes Games have a bigger player base Because they are Made based on a Popular anime most of the people that play it is because they are hyped to play with/as their favorite characters from the show that's like saying to me hey Anime fan u wanna Play as a fisherman (with powers o:) lol or let's say Itchigo in-game who tf ud think I'd be hype about playing? C'mon now
my opinion on the oc characters I have no problem with the characters and can understand their being there but my fear is that it will be like solo leveling arais where there will be a huge number of oc characters released, almost no story characters, just oc´s that is also the reason why I stopped playing SLA if I wanted to play an original character game I would do that and not play an ip game. I currently have the feeling with netmarble that they are using the ip to get the game to work and then just releasing their unhyped oc shit
Solo Leveling has almost no good relevant characters to use, ofc OC's will need to exist because no one gives a shit about background characters. OC's>>>background NPC's any day. If you don't like that, then don't play gacha games, or just live service games in general
@@TheBoltMaster456 I don't think you understand what my concern is. I have no problem with OC but the design has to fit with 7ds/4koa and the 2 shown look like Genshin characters. Then there's the concern that we'll get countless OC characters before we get a relevant 7ds/4koa unit, just like in SLA, and as I said, the IP is 7ds/4koa, it's not an OC game. Too many OCs can kill an IP game, you can see that with grand cross, 3 months of only OC and players have stopped playing, and in return we've skipped characters like Nerobusta, Grayroad, Wheelchair Gowther, Estaroser 4 Commandment, Orginal Fraudrin, Dahlia, Dubs, Supreme Deity, Galla, Pump, Atollah, Dahaaka, Derocchio, Solaad, and I don't even want to know how many characters were skip from 4koa. oc may be important but too many are not good and that is happening in SLA and there are enough characters that are hyped and the devs are probably releasing the units like in SLA so that you can defeat content you need this one unit so it won't matter whether the unit is hyped or not so there are enough characters available from 7ds/4koa
@@93MasterGame well explained. And also, solo leveling does infact have a plethora of characters to choose from without the need to fill in the gap with numerous oc’s that nobody asked for. Idk if you read solo leveling or not but if you did you should understand what I’m talking about
idk i just dont like ocs in a game based on an already existing ip. Not only are they taking up space but the sotry and content sucks aswell. Id rather summon for 13 different bans with a slight difference then like hel or thor or sabunak
At some point you run out of content to pull from the original series, so you either have to make shit up and create headcanons for characters, which could possibly be considered disrespectful to the creators of the original series and the owners of the IP as you are portraying their characters in a licensed game in an inaccurate way, and it also could leave a bad taste in some fans' mouths. Or you have to create original characters. Most game devs go the original character route.
Really? I think ocs keep games alive as long as they have a story like in grand cross. It also allows the developers to use their créativity instead of reusing the same assets over and over. And in the end never satisfying the people that only want one specific character.😅
Man these guys didn't grew up for real, complaining for this. The game isn't even out yet btw.
For real tho idk know why people would be mad at this. This game has a completely different story line than the og series and the oc’s in the trailer make the game more interesting
At the end of the day it's all depends on gameplay 90% people dgf about story or lore etc ..
OCs that don't explore/ aren't based on established concepts and lore of the IP only damages it.
I'm glad NM at least realizes this and are making OCs for the underexplored races from the IP such as the goddess clan, and that is completely different and marginally better than random OCs like the Catastrophes and even Ragnarok.
Thats why you don't throw a fit when the game isn't even out yet
criticizing isn't throwing a fit. Even with the added context, the trailer was still bad.
@@BeatsPH No it wasn't, we have 0 context on what the story or new original characters are about, this isn't "criticism" because it isn't based in any real fact or existing knowledge, but just blind hatred. Stop embarrassing yourselves.
@BeatsPH Maybe it's not you but you can see on twitter, reddit or even in your comment sections that people are already saying the game is shit just because there's OCs in it
@@TheBoltMaster456 Thats the problem, we have no context! Ending a trailer with a random fairy like were all supposed to cheer is bad. We as Fans can call that out, thats what criticizing is. Its not Blind hatred when Netmarble has done 2... 2 OC storylines that have failed, thats why people are worried.
When Tioreh got revealed in game (Before it was confirmed she was King daughter) Why didnt people go crazy with them adding OC Characters? Its cause at that time, the idea of OC characters wasnt as bad as it is now. Grand Cross added too many OC units this year with 2 of them replacing our UR Festivals.
I myself am open to the Idea of OC now, just like how i was with Ragnarok being added to Grand Cross but thats only because of the info Kevin dropped on Discord... Its netmarble job to convince the Fans. Until then people calling Netmarble out is fair and people on the other side need to realize it isnt 'blind hatred'
@@Jamie-xr7eh I think its fair that people are worried and yea people are going over the top but its because netmarble hasnt giving much away not only regarding the 7DS story part of Origin. 4KOA Arthur is apparently the main villain but they havent shown that, what they have shown is some OC stuff with no context so all we can assume is its similar to Ragnarok & The catastrophes. Kevin says the OC's in Origin are actually good and i believe him but not everyone is in the discord or saw all the stuff he said about the OC's and unfortunately wont have their minds changed. Just gotta wait for more info next year and im sure they will cook
bigest w of the year we finaly geting grayrod
OC's are fine so long as they're based within the lore and world of the series. Ragnarok in Grand Cross is fine as it's a spin-off and does not pertain to Grand Cross' main story. But 7DS Origin's story isn't based on the anime/manga, it's an entirely original story taking place before 4KoA but after 7DS. To think that OC's weren't going to be a thing, especially with such a limited roster of relevant characters, is extremely naive and short sighted. What I'm saying is, keep an open mind and don't just blindly hate.
Lets get something straight the whole drama about Ocs is people worrying that they're gonna get treated the same way they did in GC. But we don't know that yet so we shouldn't judge.
But OCs are important in a FREE-ROAM game just like Kevin mentioned to fill the composition and story. A free-roam original game means original environment, original monsters, original npcs AND Original characters.
And one thing people forgot is that Rintarou Ikeda (the scriptwritter for the Seven Deadly Sins anime) is part of the staff working on the Origins story so I'm not going to worry right away 🤞
Not gonna lie, I just hope my favorite characters are playable. I'm talking about Sigurd, Zeldris, and Ban.
Sigurd is a Ragnarok OC, and that won't be a thing in Origin.
@@TheBoltMaster456 how about collab characters?
It’s not drama anyone complaining needs to grow up that’s all
Anyone complaining are adequate people who understand obvious intentions to use popular SDS name to promote their dull OC’s. They never cared about making good SDS game, if they were originally making a game about their own characters, then no one would play it.
@ this right here proves my point most of the characters in this anime are literal GARBAGE in terms of design, powers, backstory etc there is literally 8 good characters that people actually care about in this whole show so making new OCS with better powers , depth , design and so on is the smart and ONLY move clown
@@muradkhaled5707 Crazy how fcked up yr brain works lmao and all imma say is if you feel that way about 7ds characters and OCs then u should definitely not play a 7DS game but go play some Original Game
@muradkhaled5707 💀💀💀
Netmarble's OC's are even worse bro. It doesn't if you like show or not. If they make game with Seven Deadly Sins name, they should make it about SDS (and 4KOA).
When I go to the Japanese restaurant, I want to taste Japanese food, not Italian. Here's the same situation. When I play SDS game I want to see SDS characters, not some random dudes that they created.
So if you don't like SDS show - why on earth you even want to play this game? Just to see OC's? Then it's a very strange logic, go and find some projects with literally no SDS characters and enjoy it
@@titan9097 bro is a clown fam just get lost already i love this anime but it doesn’t change the fact that is contains an OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT OF GARBAGE CHARACTERS get it through your thick skull i wanna play with the cool characters with the 7ds universe and some other cool designed characters with better weapons, powers than fuking GRIAMORE if you’re that butt hurt about the OCS then don’t play the game and go play a game with fully on anime only characters genius
Nobody wants to play the 7DS story for the 3rd time we've already seen it. There is literally no problem with having a new story that gets adequate dev time because it's the sole content as opposed to getting a fraction of it because it's along side two other stories (Rag, Disaster, 7DS story in GC). This is just the 7DS playerbase (or mostly just beats) complaining about non issues
No one has ever said we want to play the same story. From day 1, 3 years ago, we knew they wasn't doing the same story, that's never been the problem. I think you should watch the video.
@BeatsPH Then why complain abt OCs if you know it's going to happen anyway? A new story, while it doesn't require new characters is benefitted by them and it makes it easier to write that story. This anti OC tirade you and a select few of gc youtubers have used to scapegoat the game's poor performance is getting stale.
@@imurdad1328 In the video i talk about it. Im actually for OC now because of the added context one of the Devs have given, which is why i made this video. The reason why we was worried about OC was because of how much they have taken over in Grand Cross and they are now actively taking away from our 7DS/4koa content. 2 OC Story lines that are bad and even this year, 2 of them taking the slots of our UR Festivals when they could've been Characters 7DS Fans have wanted for years.
Not a single RUclipsr has ever said OCs are the reason Grand Cross is failing or getting Stale, it is true that its one of the reason but far from the only one.
Edit: Also we knew its was an Original Story but we didnt actually know OC Characters would be in it. Funny enough had they shown OC Characters during the reveal a few years ago then it actually wouldn't be a problem because at the time, most Players liked OCs its only with in the last 1-2 years that OC's have been a problem in Grand Cross.
that elf girl looks like AI ngl
what the hell is an oc?
Is Aaroniero your brother bro?
yea we are twins
@BeatsPH that's cool bro, keep up the great content 😎👍👍
I'll do a prediction with the story. The story will be from the perspective of an OC, the first major plotpoint will be with OCs aswell, now since the sins are legends the goal would be to find them and ask for their help, then after the arc is finished, we'll discover that Arthur is behind this and a bigger overarching plot, and by that point the two worlds would be meshed well.
I guess the main question we have to ask is who will be the player MC, like Genshin's Traveler or we start with the gang.
Judging by all of the trailers we’ve seen of this game it’s pretty much already been established that tristan will be the main character and if the mc really is going to be an oc than that character would’ve had more screen time in the trailers
OCs in Grandcross wr never liked the majority of the community Hated the 1st OCs because around that time it's when NM started fckn up a bit by not releasing existing lore wise characters like for example Indira Derrieri and Indura Monspeet ,saying that the majority liked them equals to say the Majority liked the Stranger Things Collab when it dropped lol Anyways people didn't like them they got attached to them it's different if u play this game for over 5 years u just start to accept everything , on that note the 2nd OCs from Ragnarok wr indeed Hype heck the Trailer they made, made us believe it was a Movie or a Series they made like it was crazy they handled that pretty well ngl and the chars in-game are still awesome but the thing is u know just saying (Liked or Not Liked the main Point still stands "They Always Could of Been 7DS Character Variations instead of OCs) u Think that if in the 7DS game I'm playing I get a Festival Banner with Demon Form Guila Instead of Hel I wouldn't be hyped as fuck? I mean c'mon now
Making headcanon for existing characters isn't much different than making original characters, just sayin. Most people wouldn't be hype foe a new Guila.
@TheBoltMaster456 that is far than incorrect even if u try to sound intelligent that doesn't help yr case the Game is Called Seven Deadly Sins GrandCross named after the anime Seven Deadly Sins people who prefer only OC characters should go to Genshin Impact and other such games the majority that play the game are hyped for the characters from this game and ofc for Collab characters nobody puts the OCs above them I've been more than 5 years in this game I'm apart of 10 Grandcross discord servers and u can find around 10 people amongst them who actually like OC characters over anything else in the game and to be frank they are as stubborn as the 2 people here that try to defend em and I say "try" because saying that OC chars are liked more than Main Anime IP characters is just a lie and it's not helping your case in defending the OCs u know u could just say I like OCs that's all nobody would care to reply back to you they'd only leave a like appreciate yr point of view and let u live with yr preferences but no u gotta come here argue and state stuff that is incorrect sorry but I find that repulsive
To put it into a perspective Animes Games have a bigger player base Because they are Made based on a Popular anime most of the people that play it is because they are hyped to play with/as their favorite characters from the show that's like saying to me hey Anime fan u wanna Play as a fisherman (with powers o:) lol or let's say Itchigo in-game who tf ud think I'd be hype about playing? C'mon now
my opinion on the oc characters I have no problem with the characters and can understand their being there but my fear is that it will be like solo leveling arais where there will be a huge number of oc characters released, almost no story characters, just oc´s that is also the reason why I stopped playing SLA if I wanted to play an original character game I would do that and not play an ip game. I currently have the feeling with netmarble that they are using the ip to get the game to work and then just releasing their unhyped oc shit
Solo Leveling has almost no good relevant characters to use, ofc OC's will need to exist because no one gives a shit about background characters. OC's>>>background NPC's any day. If you don't like that, then don't play gacha games, or just live service games in general
@@TheBoltMaster456 I don't think you understand what my concern is. I have no problem with OC but the design has to fit with 7ds/4koa and the 2 shown look like Genshin characters. Then there's the concern that we'll get countless OC characters before we get a relevant 7ds/4koa unit, just like in SLA, and as I said, the IP is 7ds/4koa, it's not an OC game.
Too many OCs can kill an IP game, you can see that with grand cross, 3 months of only OC and players have stopped playing, and in return we've skipped characters like Nerobusta, Grayroad, Wheelchair Gowther, Estaroser 4 Commandment, Orginal Fraudrin, Dahlia, Dubs, Supreme Deity, Galla, Pump, Atollah, Dahaaka, Derocchio, Solaad, and I don't even want to know how many characters were skip from 4koa.
oc may be important but too many are not good and that is happening in SLA and there are enough characters that are hyped and the devs are probably releasing the units like in SLA so that you can defeat content you need this one unit so it won't matter whether the unit is hyped or not so there are enough characters available from 7ds/4koa
@@93MasterGame well explained. And also, solo leveling does infact have a plethora of characters to choose from without the need to fill in the gap with numerous oc’s that nobody asked for. Idk if you read solo leveling or not but if you did you should understand what I’m talking about
idk i just dont like ocs in a game based on an already existing ip. Not only are they taking up space but the sotry and content sucks aswell. Id rather summon for 13 different bans with a slight difference then like hel or thor or sabunak
At some point you run out of content to pull from the original series, so you either have to make shit up and create headcanons for characters, which could possibly be considered disrespectful to the creators of the original series and the owners of the IP as you are portraying their characters in a licensed game in an inaccurate way, and it also could leave a bad taste in some fans' mouths. Or you have to create original characters. Most game devs go the original character route.
Really? I think ocs keep games alive as long as they have a story like in grand cross. It also allows the developers to use their créativity instead of reusing the same assets over and over. And in the end never satisfying the people that only want one specific character.😅