I can corroborate meeting "beings" while blasting off on DMT. It was as though the drug had awoken from an incredibly depthful and immersive dream, into a strange but comfortable place with two of my "friends." They regarded me gently, as though I'd stirred from a quick nap. This was years ago, and I still think about my "friends." Sometimes I feel their presence in deep meditation, as though they're watching over me. They've been a serious source of comfort in some lower moments of my life. I'm by no means spiritual. I've been a very skeptical atheist my whole life. Still am. Something is up with that DMT stuff tho
" He will ask ˹them˺, “How many years did you remain on earth?, They will reply, “We remained ˹only˺ a day or part of a day. But ask those who kept count.” Quran, Surah Muminoon Verse 112-113
@@shotglassanhero It's just an experience he had, that doesn't mean the experience must have came from the outside / some other entity. Also, you can be spiritual and atheist at the same time, being atheist just means you don't believe in gods, not that there can't be something we cannot measure of prove. (or haven't yet)
@@experimentalcyborg Essentially what I grasp from what he said is he had a spiritual/mystical experience after using DMT but chooses not to describe it that way. And I really doubt people who say they are spiritual would ever label themselves as an atheist. The term comes with too much baggage. Even something as simple as agnostic has lost its meaning. I was an atheist for much of my young life until I recognized that we are all spiritual beings whether we believe it or not. Everyone is god, everyone is ONE-it is only an illusion that we are separate. Science has failed us, there’s no way to “know” everything. But it’s a nice story. And while Dr. K is great, I don’t think he has any idea what he’s talking about when it comes to psychedelics. Just the mere fact he’s never even taken anything makes his opinion worthless in this conversation.
This one thing makes me wary of dmt. Everyone who does it has this delusion that they can only describe as meeting other beings. Surely it is just overlapping a pathway of feeling connected to others or to ourselves, and it oversaturates that abilitg to the point where dmt users are themselves unable to challenge it. But surely to claim that is otherworldly just obfuscates the message of this real world experience. Perhaps humans evolved to such an advanced state due to our capacity to acknowledge this thing, but you know, those entities really can not be real things.
I find shrooms made me appreciate how much I don’t know and that it’s better to sit back and enjoy it and accept the weirdness instead of trying to force meaning into your life and trying to understand the universe when its better to just be part of it.
Beatifully put. Mind cannot explain everything, and often just confuses and makes everything anxiety-inducing, while it really can be also fascinating and the most awesome experience to be had.
I would agree with that to some extend. What i agree with is that you shouldn't force yourself to only accept reality if you understand it because obviously there are quite alot of things we have no idea even exist. So i guess it would take more than a couple of life times to figure out most of what we are able to and it is certainly alot healthier to sit back and be fascinated about the wondefull side of nature than to get depressed over continuously failing to understand absolutely everything. But that does not mean that we shouldn't ever try to get there. We learn through the struggle and we get better and better the more we overcome obstacles. And the good thing about that is once someone figures out something about this universe he can tell and teach the rest of us and we can pass it onto next generations. So in conclusion don't push yourself into suicidality by forcing yourself to unravel the mysteries of the universe BUT once in a while just get your brain working and ask questions about things you whittness. Try to get a couple of weird ideas and see if they could be real.. Who knows mabye you have a brilliant idea that happens to revolutionize our understanding of physics in some way or another.
This is exactly why I got into Taoism. I think Alan Watts is full of wisdom on this but it's really a hard thing to grasp for a first timer. "To the initiate trees are trees and mountains are mountains. The adept realizes that they are all part of the same thing. The master once again realizes that the trees are trees, and the mountains are just mountains." Another great paraphrase from Watts is that "Some people get so shocked from going through the door that they turn it into a revolving door and never end up moving forward."
Joe Rogan jokes aside, DMT saved my life. I used to hate myself to the point of not wanting to be here anymore. DMT changed that and taught me how to love myself. Now I'm working on my Master's thesis about how powerful of a therapeutic tool it can be. It's called the spirit molecule for a reason
It is understandable Joe rogan is so vocal about it, when something changes our life for the better of course (some of) us won't be able to shut our mouth about it. I'm happy that at least they're not knocking at people's door.
you changed your life.. not the chemical. i understand what you mean, i went through the same thing with acid on feb 16 2021.. it changed my life, felt like i finally arrived on earth,. etc etc whatever u call it. i experienced the same thing. however, we must realize it is possible without drugs too.
I had a very similar experience with shrooms. I came to a realization of what I wanted to do with my life and went down that path. Am now a successful animator and much more happy with myself :) I will say tho if i just kept doing shrooms it wouldnt have helped me. I had to put in the work and stay on my path. Shrooms are good for like a mental reset but thats about it, if you keep taking them frequently you will be resetting yourself so much that you wont be able to stay on your path and it will be all ideas with no execution
@@kkokay4 the last part of turn on tune in drop out; “when you get the message turn it off” or something like that haha I’m an idiot and can’t remember…
Ayahuasca was one of the most healing and life-changing experiences of my life. It helped me to forgive people I'd never been able to forgive before, and release fears and traumas that had haunted me for my whole life. It's like I took a backpack full of emotional bricks off my shoulders, and I never put it back on.
@@MariaEstrada-w9f Yes, for depression, I'd personally do ayahuasca in a well controlled setting with experienced shamans. Microdosing can sometimes be used like a masking agent for issues, whereas high-dose psychedelic treatment can often completely resolve whatever you're going through by helping you process deep emotional traumas. The place I went to do ayahuasca is called rythmia. It's honestly the best. The place is expensive, but you gotta think of it like a brain surgery. This thing can completely alter your psyche. You wouldn't want a sub-par brain surgeon. You'd want the best. Same goes for does psychedelics for personal growth, in my opinion.
I love when Dr K goes off the deep end with topics like this and isn’t afraid to share his real opinions despite how stigmatized they may be. Great stuff
It would have been nice if he did some basic research before doing this, so at the least he understood that this substance isn't related to cacti at all.
Ayahuasca is not a cactus, that would be San Pedro/peyote, mescaline containing cacti. OG ayahuasca is supposed to be a brew of MAOI containing plants that produces a slight drunkenness feeling. MAOIs are one of the previous generations of antidepressants. The confusion stems from the fact that when the brew is modified(it often is) with DMT-containing plants(there's a LOT of them) it produces a psychedelic effect due to the OG ayahuasca plants inhibiting the metabolism of DMT, which would not survive the stomach and not get into the bloodstream otherwise. The terminology is extremely messy due to the native sources constantly conflicting - and new "huascas" that were either discovered or straight up made in a lab from pharmaceuticals don't help the matter. Sources are Hamilton's pharmacopeia (the natives refer to the OG brew as ayahuasca and call the DMT containing one differently) and general knowledge on the plants from wiki(google)
Didn't know Ayahuasca was originally a brew containing only the MAOI inhibitor with no other active ingredients. However, you're only partly right; as Ayahuasca, in addition to being the name of the brew which includes DMT-containing plants, is also the name of an individual plant: the Ayahuasca vine. The brew retains the Ayahuasca name as the vine provides the key active ingredient, the MAOI inhibitor, and as such is interpreted by ritual practitioners as the guiding force behind the experience "Madre Ayahuasca".
Joe Rogan is no where as intelligent. You guys are confusing Joe Rogan’s “openess” to ideas as intelligence. It’s not. He is open to all kinds of erroneous right wing ideas also. You seem to forget that. Just because he is accepting of your drug use doesn’t prove intelligence.
Dr.K: So about DMT.. *distant running* Dr.K: Uuh? *footsteps get closer* Dr.K: Is that- *somebody crashes through a window* Joe Rogan: SOMEBODY SAY DMT?!
I had a psychedelic experience once that sent me to eternity and meeting the creator. My ego dissolved yet I was physically terrified. It was so magical and so full of love, changed my life for good. In the most positive way possible.
I'm so glad you talked about this today. I recently was hospitalised and almost died so I've been worrying a lot about death. Mentioning enlightenment has reminded me that I can at the very least start meditation and at least hopefully make some progress to minimise the fear that I have.
I've benefited so much from psychedelics. It helped with My depression, anxiety and insomnia. Psychedelics has also improved my creativity and focus. Reach out to this dude I order from. He's got all sorts of psychedelics and ships secretly
Think of it this way. Everyone that has lived has gone trough it and will go trough it. The scary part is the unknown, but we all find out whether we worry or not.
I’ve done DMT multiple times and I’ve listened to Terrence McKenna for an accumulative 100+ or so hours talk about DMT, among other things. He shares a story when he traveled around India where he was able to provide DMT to a yogic monk, to which the yogi simply said that what he experienced was the “lesser lights,” and one could not go past this point without truly dying. I personally try not to get wrapped into peoples personal interpretations of what they experienced on DMT because there is so much subjective and crumpled information that a subjective person may bring back through an overwhelming dimensional pinhole, but I do think this experience has existential validity nonetheless.
If you really want to know what's up do psychs, do yoga and meditate. But first you gotta have your life in order otherwise this intense practice will destabilize your entire life.
@@jesterfrombeyond1776 this is so opinion based lol ive never been in a good place doing psychedelic's and also never had a single bad experience, it definitely didnt destabilize my life lmao.
did DMT for the first time about an hour ago... I'm not kidding when I say it was simultaneously the most profound and amazing 10ish minutes I've ever experienced
I was an atheist all my life until blasting off on DMT one particular time. I won't bore you all with my experience but there is absolutely no way whatsoever that I am creative enough in any way for my brain to have "imagined" what I experienced. It was as if every moment of what happened was to show me that there was no possible way this was coming from me. The entire experience was showing me that there is far more to existence than we understand and it is far more profound than we could ever imagine. Take that for what you will, but you will never convince me what I saw was in any way dreamed up by my human brain.
Our brain is powerful as fuck we barely use any of it, it dumbs down the world for us so we see it in a particular way to our benefit for survival, but way more is going on inside
thats the problem with these inflexible "science" types are. they come up with a conclusion and dont even try it, or if they do, they dont spend the time to reserch others experiences. many people that did dmt in one way or another had very similar experiences, or experiences in a simmilar direction. if it was all just halusinated, they would be vastly different. like we also produce dmt when we sleep, thats how we dream but that is different. thats why your not gonna have a few people with a very simmilar dream (and im not talking about common stuff like flying or having teath fall out, as thoes driems still have a lot of variability).with DMT people are usually shown some cool stuff and then they are lead some were to show themselves who they are and then they are shown how to improve themselves while also shairing lots of knoladge. im sure you learned that were all shards of one being, were all connected and were all loved on an energetic level, yet as humans we kinda come in numb so we have to reconnect. and dmt does recconect you. theres a reson dmt has been used over centuries and its not just some halusination your brain makes up. to clame that is actually unscientific, its also unscientific to dismiss what people like me are saying just cause you cant put a ruler to our experiences or "prove" what we see. its unscientific because its statisticly implausable that over centuries and different arias around the planet all these xperienses line up.
I use DMT and I am an agnostic. It’s just about trusting your mind. Your experience coming from your mind doesn’t make it any less real, or any less meaningful. Enlightenment can still be a real thing even if religion and spirituality is wrong.
@groundbreak,... i agree! these so-called experts know little to nothing. my experience left tangible articles in my possession with material world evidence witnessed by friends & family. study the quantum field theories and morpic field resonance. the video is poorly presented by lack of real research, imo
I think accessing a part of brain differently is still valuable even if it's not an external being. We know brain does not have a singular "me" and there are parts that communicate, so just interacting with those in this altered way could give great results for mental health. - That's what I think is happening. Not a meaningless misfunctioning illusion, nor a "real" different world, but new way to experience myself, and possibly especially parts of myself I am not usually aware of.
and I'm not saying it's not distorted experience of some "healthy potential" ... but then so is probably caffeine jitters and many other common things.
Oooh, I like this take. It fits with trip reports that I’ve seen where people have asked the ‘beings’ what they are and the beings just said, I am you. This was interpreted at very spiritual but maybe it had a more literal meaning.
Pretty sure I have PTSD from a few psychedelics, but especially DMT. Not to say there isn't value in them, but tread with caution and start small if you're going to use them.
This is really important to let people know - me too, from Ayahuasca. It took me 8 years to get over the fear/trauma from psychedelics and work through it again. Not that the experiences were all negative, but people should realize that aya/dmt/other psychedelics doesn't always automatically lead to profoundly healing or a beautiful experience. People really should make sure they have the right support and psychological tools, and be prepared for the possibility of your darkest shadows emerging - amplified x1000. It's no joke... All the Joe Rogan-type discussions really glamorize dmt but if you don't want/know how to do deep psychological work and just want to have a cool experience its best to stick to meditation or low dose mushrooms.
same here man, i dont think the bad effects of psychedelics are spoken about enough, i suffered from panic attacks for a good while after having a traumatic ego death. A good trip can show you the best and most amazing parts of the worlds but a bad trip can also take you down to the worst most horrifying scary and bizarre parts of life, theyre something that shouldnt be taken lightly and everyone that thinks about taking them should really know what theyre getting into
@@cozmics1191 yeah I took lots of different drugs for a period of 5 years, i then tried to heal myself quickly via the method of heavy psychedelics including smoking DMT Ayahuasca and Iboga, smoking DMT was the most traumatic experience, I encountered an entity what I believe to be an all powerful Spiritual Goddess and she is not happy with me and wants me to leave this world and join her, I am so scared, I am trying to survive the best I can but I’m traumatised by constant evil thoughts and images, maybe this is a manifestation of how I’ve lived in sin and segregation from the real world. I don’t want to die but I can’t go on in this way it’s absolutely pure pain and torture. I am praying to Jesus to save my soul but it’s overshadowed by the darkness within me, I’ve seen dark smoke entities and have constant Burning in my eye as and head, I try my best to fight but I’m losing. I would love to go to sleep and not wake up but I believe this all powerful entity wants to consume me for eternity. I’ve let some real dark things in, my whole life is like it never happened, I have amazing friends and family but nobody understands where I’m at they just thing it’s a bad phase I’m going through but I know it’s heavier than that. My advice to anyone is don’t involve yourself with these substances as they can open some portals to horrific places. Pray to Lord Jesus, I am praying to save what’s left of my soul. I am on borrowed time, please head my advice these substances are not to be taken lightly, especially the DMT. Lord have mercy on my soul.
Same, but I blame myself, I abused psychs, they showed me what they do and I just have to deal with it, I still got positive feedback from them though.
Ditto. I've been looking for this comment. I was an LSD casualty. Affected me for a long time. I was curious about DMT but it looks to be a gamble too. Thanks for posting your comment and also to those responding.
@@DwarvenKern Yes sir, Leonardo da Vinci came after the black plague and Isaac Newton discover the meaning of color, gravity and planetary orbit during lockdown
Welp, with the 01.07.2024 being right around the corner we now will witness the end of psychedelics as we knew them. With the blanket ban in the Netherlands the quality and quantity of psychedelics and any other drug in general will plummet and we're about to become witness to a new drug-crisis that is once again caused by idiotic politicians who make laws and decisions on topics that they know less about than some 4 year old kids ffs. But what is ultimately going to happen? The drugs will once again be blamed.... as always. False "FENTA OVERDOSE OMG OMG OMG" news are already rampant in the USA after one large distributor did in fact combine 4-flouro-fentanyl with Bromazolam, Flubrotizolam, Flubromazepam (ofc. all being sold as "Xanax" to appeal to the people with zero actual drug-knowledge or experience, Ketamine and MDMA, causing a good chunk of people to OD. That would've been the gist of it had the media not suddenly started to talk about fentanyl , spreading absolutely disgusting falsehoods like Fentanyl being extremely dangerous, even when applied transdermally; it causing addiction after just 1 or 2 uses, and how Fentanyl is actually obsolete in medicine and is only used because its cheaper than morphine due to potency and should therefore be banned completely. That's INSANE thinking which would be accompanied by thousands of deaths daily across the world if listened to. Invasive surgery and ICUs regularly depend on Fentanyl as the only viable option. W/e.... enough about that... I don't even know why I started ranting about that. All I really wanted to say is, that we'll soon see a large increase in fake LSD, DMT, 2C-B, LSA, MXE, etc. etc. etc.
My idea about DMT is that it is unraveling parts of your visual cortex--and you get to see them. It's like "test mode" on an old arcade system where it shows every sprite/character the system can produce. I notice that it creates a lot of visuals that represent different things our brain's visual system does. Like you'll see repeating patterns, shapes, writing, 3d or 2d spaces, etc. I'm not totally sure how to explain when you see/meet "beings" on DMT which also totally happens.
If you will work only with the assumption that spiritual world doesnt exist then you are biased from the start and cant form proper objective theory or hypothesis... And that is the main issue with our society. Even before experiments or theories starts to happen/be formed, people are already biased. Some atheistically biased, some religiously biased, some spiritually biased, of course. And then that leads to too many issues
What if (no matter if on DMT, or during some meditation or in dreams or whatever) you see certain beings which are giving you advices and the advices basically always are great ones ? Maybe then in time you will not care about prooving or disprooving if those entities are real, and start being practical - communication with them (no matter if they are some angels, extraterrrestrials or just part of my own mind, or mix of multiple things) communication with them bringsm e very practical results, improove my physical life and therefore i shall continue.... And that is why many mystics, mages, shamanistic people etc exist. They dont tend to be dogmatic , if anything they tend to be the most practical people. They simply know how much it is helping themselves and people around them therefore they dont care about other proofs other than ,,this is improoving my life and lives of people around me".
PS: in ancient times, some deity, or nonphysical being or others... were considered parts of ourselves. Just not in the way modern science thinks about it ... ,,Know thyself, and you shall know the universe and the Gods" was written above entrance of one ancient greek temple. Therefore it is possible that it is BOTH some deity and part of your mind at the same time. But modern spirituality, religions or science believe that it must be one or the another :/ that it cant be both at once...
So I've done DMT and I reckon you'll love the RUclips lecture "The Hyperbolic Geometry of DMT Experiences (@Harvard Science of Psychedelics Club)", it's really fascinating shit quantifying the nature of the trip as it changes and can change on a two axis scale. It is above and beyond all the underground DMT cultural knowledge
I think people are afraid that these experience lose value if not "real". But they are actually very valuable experiences and they are as 'real' as everything else for your senses and mind. Embrace them and enjoy them.
The last segment is an excellent summary of why meditation is so important. My contribution: imagine feeling like you took a drug that gets you high but doesn’t inhibit you, but for the rest of your life (or however long you keep the practice up.) It’s not as intense as an artificial perturbation of the mind, but it is as affective (or arguably more so). That shouldn’t devalue drugs at all - some people come to the gate of meditation through their experiences on drugs - but it isn’t the recommended path to take. The intensity can truly affect people in a negative manner that sticks with them, or which they never seem able to let go of even after years of sobriety.
i feel the same way. For me meditation is like climbing a mountain at your own pace. Taking psychedelics feels like being dropped by a helicopter on the mountain, but the problem is that you cant go down by yourself untill you fall down.
It really is this way. It is really interesting how similar the two spaces are. For me delving into meditation and going at it for some years has slowly cultivated the openness of experience and the expansive "headspace" that I liked from psychedelics, but without the drugs. I used to experiment heavily with acid and shrooms in my early twenties and now later with DMT out of curiosity, but I don't feel like I need those tools to access the depths they take me any more. DMT is just wild, so I might return to that for the amusement park ride and I do enjoy psychedelics for their unique effect on the sensory experience, but take them very sparingly. The whole spiritual side of the experience can be accessed without them through practice, but the specific sensory experiences are unique to them. My take on, at least partially, why they induce the spiritual experiences they do is that they plunge you straight out of the possibility to identify with your sensory experience, thoughts and image of self, as all of those get so alien while on them. So they pretty much force you to the state that you try to achieve in meditation, which you traditionally do by learning to distinguish and stopping to identify with different parts of your experience and just observing it and then just becoming it.
@@japano62 Yes, I totally agree! Meditation (primarily Vipassana) is like microdosing on the purest possible psychedelic drug, slowly deconstructing experiential reality until you finally get what it is. With something like DMT, it's more like exploding reality apart for a short while and then imploding it back together and you're left thinking "what the hell was that?". It also changes the content so much, it's hard to see what is truth and what is just more "stuff". With meditation you really get to do proper investigation and digest what's happening (there can be big experiences too, but I mean relative to psychedelics). Just like Dr. K said, the insights are both profound and super ordinary.
@@megamcee its kinda like scouting too. you'll see a lot of things on the way. even if you trip down the moutain after being dropped in, you've learned some of the pitfalls and truths on different parts of that mountain once you heal and rest up and woke your way back up the mountain. just a random thought.
I would love to do the DMT again or rather Magic Mushrooms, just don't know where to get them. I only did DMT once, I was in a geometrical universe...it’s very hard to explain but I was laying down and all of a sudden my body was zoomed into another world, So many colors, machine elves. Would love to experience that again
when i tried shrooms i ate way more than i should of because i thought they wouldn’t work and then my face got numb and i threw up shrooms and my friend was laughing but trying to comfort me and the bathroom lights were flickering cuz they were old and i had to go home
This is what keeps me up at night... Detachment from what I've felt like the true reality through psychedelics. I made promises to myself in those moments; I felt the entire universe inside myself. I want to revisit those places. I go float in a sensory deprivation tank every week, and it serves as a reminder to myself of what matters.
Yeah, once you’ve felt something realer then real it’s hard to feel like our reality is the reality. But I’d rather not focus on that because that’s way over my head. We are obviously here for a reason. Might as well enjoy my time while I’m here.
@@m0zzar353 interesting seems you have awareness of the allegory that is in onepice do you have content on it ?i only see gaming videos i have related things i put together aswell
never imagined to find this sort of discussion on this channel, but im not really surprised. your vids are always full of great insight, this one is no exception
Dr. K. you really did a good job of talking publicly about these important things. I didn’t expect it of you, since you always were cautious about such matters but you clearly handled it as well as it was possible. Deep appreciation 🙏
A theory I just thought of is that it's possible to reach that level of "awareness" without psychedelics but it takes time to do it. It's a lot quicker and more jarring to just take a natural stimulant like DMT. That's why it's so "romanticized" because one second you're experiencing normal human awareness and the next you're seeing "everything at once" It's like a natural cheat code that the developers put in the game only for speed runners and hard-core players
It's romanticized because of the intensity of the experience, not simply because of the contrast to 'normal awareness' and suddeness of that transition. I'm sure if you could reach the same state of consciousness endogenously, which itself is dubious, you would likely romanticize it just as much. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you talk like someone who has never taken psychidelics.
Psychs are more romanticisable because of the sensory fuckery (in the coolest way), to a degree that is unachievable through meditation. The core _experience_ of oneness and awareness are the same though. As a psychonaut and fan of eastern spiritual teachers, you're entirely correct, and it's been corroborated by many renowned consciousness explorers.
@@sentinelshoshin4632 the truth is we prolly will never know why it's exactly romanticized cuz you can't read people's minds but I agree with what you're saying too. Both things can be true. To answer your question, no I haven't taken a psychedelic before. Maybe one day though. I'm just a huge philosophy and psychology fan
I didn’t care for psychedelics until I tried them. Mushrooms showed me spirit Lsd educated me to find a new understanding of my own thinking, helped me realize that I like the way information flows through my brain Dmt transcended my soul and gave me the most sacred experience that should not exist and will probably stick with me for life , influencing my anxieties fears and mental burdens. I think there is the slight chance, that just maybe They are romanticized for the corny truth , they’re the real deal .
when i was younger my dad had a pretty bad alcohol problem. He wasn’t really an “alcoholic” but he was getting very close to becoming one. He was short tempered and angry all the time and it put stress on my whole family. He decided to go to an ayahuasca retreat one day when i was 12 and it completely changed him. He quit alcohol cold turkey and became a more patient and happy person over all just from that one experience. He said it was one of the most heart wrenching, painful, and healing experiences he’s ever had. To this day i thank ayahuasca for bringing me my dad back.
I was literally reading this article last night and it kept me up all night thinking. I really hope more research is done. We need to fix their schedule 1 status so we can have proper scientific understanding of what's happening and if there's a health benefit to certain people.
You can do it at home. Anyone that can follow a simple process and source a couple ingredients that are legal you can make all the dmt you could ever want. They are doing at home ketamine treatments online in some states.
they dont want you to have an understanding lol, thaqts why its scedual 1, like weed was. DMT shows ppl that this is all a play, were all in a school to learn, be better and to have fun and to be free. the people dont weant people free mentally, they want us stuck on all these material things so we dont have time to apriciate life. cause if we did, we would realize we live in a bullshit way cause we let governemnts and corperations controll us. they dont want us realizing that if we all work together and love each other instead of fight one another, we could all create a much better world, one without them and their control. and they cant have that
Exactly; Correct me if I'm wrong but I think one is a vine and the other ingredient are leaves, the vine contains DMT and the leaves contain MAO-inhibitors. MAO counters the effects of DMT, that's why you have to take the inhibitors. Edit: it's the other way around
@@L.K.48 MAO is an enzyme that breaks DMT down pretty quickly and makes the trip last only 30min. The MAO-inhibitors prolongue the effects of DMT to various hours
7:00 ayahuasca is not a cactus. It translates to "vine of the dead", or "vine of souls", and is a combination of the banasteriopsis caapi vine (ayahuasca, a natural MAOI) and leaves of Chakruna (mimosa hostilis, a DMT containing leaf) The peculiar thing is that the two plants don't grow anywhere near one another, and the shamanic explanation for how the combination was discovered was, "the plants told us". Feels good to correct the psychiatrist. 😁 even though I'm positive his knowledge of substances far surpasses mine.
Instead of “dimension” a good word is “categories” When our brain interprets things that we don’t have categories for, we either simplify their complexity and put it into pre-comprehended categories or we don’t even perceive them at all.
23:52 we can talk about this through the map/territory distinction. there is some real, unknowable *territory* that we *map* as reality with our senses and brains. dmt gives us a different map of the territory, but neither map actually is the territory
See we don't know that, since the largest part of the intra dimensional tripping and seeing and feeling different things is internally, external inputs get distorted but it's not like you suddenly realize your kitchen was something else all along. And the internal tripping could be explained away with the experiences being your realization/interpretation of internal subconscious processes that you don't get to actively process and think about.
You're such a great channel. Can'tagree with you on everything but it's entertaining to hear your thoughts all the way through. Will definitely be back for the next one.
With over 20 years of occult practice, on and off, and some DMT experiences under my belt, what I have come to realise is that the scientific method is so shallow when it comes to these things. They dismiss the mystical, while the mystic agrees that both can be true at the same time. Science only sees one side. Science doesnt acknowledge the existence of Spirits, or the existence of alternative, accessible, Planes of Existence and non-physical Entities due to their 'materialistic' views and the way they have been trained in their field of science, whether it be medicine, chemistry, psychology or even quantum physics. Magicians and Psychonauts have been studying and exploring these things for hundreds, if not thousands, of years. They accept science and strive to bridge the gap, scientists on the other hand generally dismiss the Magicians and Psychonauts as they dont fit into a 'model', not to mention the funding and grants they need, that have to produce the results that the funder requires. The first thing I ask, when watching or reading something like this, is did the writer or video creator try the drug or the occult practice, not once but many times. 99% of the time they didnt even try it once, therefore their 'opinion', which is all it is, is so limited as to be useless, like academic masturbation. The science hasnt caught up with the nuances of experiences, and probably wont for a long, long time. Just because you cant prove it doesnt mean it doesnt exist. There are many who have gone before, their experiences are on the record, whether it be trip reports or magical diaries. To all the scientists, physicians, psychologists, anthropologists etc , taste the source of what you are studying, Conjure a Demon, smoke the DMT, more than once. Open your eyes by having the experience, your science will be better for it. But there are risks.
On the question of DMT beings possibly being "real" in the sense that DMT can be sort of like a telescope. From personal experience with DMT and other psych, they are clearly not real in that sense as the mechanisms of action required in order to contact other dimensional beings can't just evolve by accident in our brain. It's simply not how evolution works. But with that said, experiences of interacting with other foreign beings still can be real in another very important sense: Consider that consciousness can be split, which we know from split brain patient experiments. Consider the phenomena of consciousness does not necessarily require human brain, since birds definitely and maybe even some insects have some form of it. And consider that psychedelics completely mess up the inner workings of the brain. What might be happening is the shattering of the unified consciousness into many individual shards, each one inherently completely alien due to being under the influence of a drug and suddenly finding itself outside of it's regular function and environment. The alien beings found in DMT experiences, could be those shards. If so, it would be true to say that the user actually did communicate with another alien form of consciousness separate from themselves. Not only would this theory explain beings found in DMT experiences, but also memories of a trip often not being coherent in time and it would even provide a mechanism of action for the experience of ego death as the dissolution of the unified consciousness into some of its elements. It would legitimize the first person aspect of the experience of dying during ego-death being real, as consciousness really technically is experiencing itself falling apart. It would also somewhat explain the feeling of understanding the true fabric of reality, since you get the chance to see the individual shards that you as a consciousness are made from. It would also put it into perspective why trips can be so terrifying and how seemingly nonsensical experiences can feel so absolutely utterly real.
I had an experience of perceiving "me" being the same thing as the infinity that surrounded me. Pretty neat, especially considering it was only self-inquiry.
@@CFChristian I've had that same experience myself as well. I'd elaborate it as realizing how everything only exists as defined by all the first person experiences of reality that ever existed or will exist, and how there's nothing objectively special about my particular perspective, that my perspective of existence being privileged in some way by being mine is an illusion. Could also explain it as a kind of a dissolution of the question of why am I me and not somebody or something else. Kind of shift of identity away from me as a particular self, and towards a perspective of being equally everyone and everything. I found this state profoundly scary though, as I noticed the implication that I have and will experience all suffering that ever was and will be, I just wont remember it, in a way. Ever since experiencing such a perspective, I can shift myself towards it by remembering all this. I've tried to continue identifying as the whole universe but found it emotionally too overwhelming, so I grounded myself in the physicality of my own body in order to identify as an individual. I think our society would be an infinitely better place if everyone somehow got to experience this at least once, whether through psychedelics or meditation or whatever else, as nothing can impart a larger sense of empathy towards all living beings.
Rather than your weird definition of shards, I'd posit that dmt could force different areas of the brain to function independently of eachother, therefore othering the other areas, that is therefore interpreted spatially as we try to recognise and 'bring together' the mental image, all before the pathways can flow freely again and our brain acknowledges itself and asserts dominance over the rest of the system. That is why the entities 'fade' and do not remain, as our understanding of what is happening improves to the level of reality. For some reason dmt users stress the significance of these entities, and are unable to question if they were entities or not, but I feel like if they knew exactly what was happening to their brain & why, they wouldn't need to cling to such esoteric definitions
@@Eagleshadow I totally get what you're saying in that second paragraph. It shakes me to my core to think about. I've never done DMT or anything close to that, but even since I was a little kid I felt disillusioned by the realization that I will only get to experience being in this body with this mind. I desperately want to share and explore the inter-dimensional depth and width of conscious experience to a level that just seems impossible. It's the deepest source of my suffering. It's like feeling alone in a room full of people you know and love, but with an additional realization that this is how it always was and always will be... alone in your mind.
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area. I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea
Love it. I had just had a conversation with a coworker about physics, quantum physics, entanglement, space-time, etc, where I explained that our perception of reality is simply that; a perception, not reality. And then this video was released. Good timing!
@@Opposition2 Not best explained (or at all) in my comment, but the part where we were discussing reality being just a perception revealed around our individual perceptions being biased due to our personal experiences, preferences, preconceived beliefs, etc, of what something is, instead of what it is when it is independent of us.
For me the most profound things during a DMT trip are not the meeting of entities or visuals, but the moments where you realize new patterns linking real world phenomena to each other. For example feeling warmth or cold as the wave amplitude sum maximums from harmonically oscilating particles in the nerve cells in your skin. Or seeing how certain geometric patterns in nature emerge and how the same emergent mechanics also affect galaxy structures. I think that under no normal circumstance can the brain process information that way. Being able to see the individual momentum of thousands of objects and how they interact with each other. We know we can simulate these things with computers that are millions of times less efficient than our brains, yet we can't normally calculate that. DMT has proven to me not that god exists or that everyone is connected, but that our minds are capable of so much more than we think. While most research on psychedelics is focused on improving mental health i think they have potential for even more if used correctly. Some savants can for example calculate using geometry and convert numbers and mathematical operations into shapes that immediately reveal the answer to those operations. Our brain seems to struggle with the language of arithmetic mathematic expressions, but atleast under psychedelics we seem to have the capacity of incredibly complex geometric calculations. Psychedelics are known to induce neuroplasticity (which means they can also have long term negative side-effects like HPPD) thus my theory is that it could be possible to create connections in the brain for a mathematical-geometric language. So now whenever i trip i try to think of mathematical problems.
I know it's a joke, I've experienced Alex Grey visions many times, sometimes even sober while doing WILD or just trying to fall asleep. But what dr K means that you can experience something "like that" but not the same thing. We all experience the same moon wherever you place your telescope. You can't see the same entity with your friend unless you describe it. I wonder if humanity ever achieves some kind of brain-to-brain thought transfer, that way everything that we can think about would become a reality, because we would have physical data descibing it.
You should check out symmetric visions. He's a visual artist who replicates psychedelics. Has his own youtube channel, his stuff is extremely accurate it's wild.
Thank you for this upload man! I had pretty significant use of psychedelics growing up and even tried dmt a few times and had one incredibly intense and sacred experience beyond words that I will probably remember for the rest of my life. I appreciate this opportunity to integrate your really great western perception along with the other perceptions out there. I’ve spent many years going through life trying to integrate an explanation to some of these sort of unexplainable mysteries. Studying any and all I’ve who I’ve considered educated and wise in their respected ways . From me to all you, I don’t know what this molecule is , I don’t know why we have it inside of our cosmic creations, But those experiences were more real than real and the most subjectively sacred experiences I have ever felt, and the fact that it even exists alone should cause an eyebrow raise from human beings as a species. I even went as far as to experiment with raga and Indian vibrasonics that some characters of the 60s counter culture claimed would ‘tune you into your vibration’ & though my conclusions are mine to defend it made a significant influence on my experience. Very significant. Worth suspending disbelief towards certain aspects of ancient & eastern civilizations and various figures who have dedicated their lives to things like meditation and the ‘weird stuff’. Psychedelics bend the structure of reality and they will never be able to be understood by one mind alone . Society has put them on the shelf of things we do not talk about, But I genuinely whole heartedly believe that through responsible and intelligent use we can create a sort of understanding 2.0 of both reality and our place on this planet . Greater understanding, growth, empathy, collective realizations, Love. Peace and love to you all !
Zen practitioner here - after sufficient practice and experience, it’s apparent that the self is just a construct of the mind. It’s a useful construct for sure, but there is no real, permanent, abiding agent there that we think of as the self. As such, it seems to me our brains can just as easily create “other” selves or beings that appear as real to us as our own selves do.
one of my favorite terence mckenna quotes: "A man moved near a river and, wanting to find a way to travel across the water, spent ten years forming a type of levitation that would allow him to float across it. Buddha, who was preaching in town, was confronted by this man, who said, “Look master, look what I have achieved. I can walk across the water.” And Buddha said, “Yeah, but the ferry only costs a nickel…" to me, DMT is the ferry over to the new land, but can only get so close to the shore without wrecking. Eventually, you'll have to jump off the ferry and swim the rest.
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You know how when you press on your eyeball, you see a spot? That's an external force tickling your nerves, that your brain interprets as a visual thing, but it really has no physical object attached to it. But your visual cortex and whatnot doesn't know that, and it interprets it the best it can, and you see a blob. I think that's kinda like how a psychedelic creates the perception of there being an otherwordly being, or a completely alien space. It's the drug tickling the parts of your brain that interpret external beings or physical spaces. It really might feel like it's real, an actual external thing that exists in the world (or A world) somewhere, but that doesn't mean that it's actually "real". That doesn't mean it can't be useful, or interesting. It can give you a little glimpse to the inner workings of your brain, and make you notice things about yourself and your subjective experience that you wouldn't've otherwise noticed. Imagine a complicated mechanical machine. You can infer something of it's inner workings just by looking at it, seeing how the visible parts of it move about, and seeing what it's doing. But if you poke it just right in a particulacr spot, and perhaps make it malfunction in some interesting way, you might see easier how it works. "So I stuck a screwdriver it that hole, and it made a crunching noise, and that wheel there stopped spinning, so there must be a cog or something there". You might've been able to infer that anyways without poking it, but it's a nice shortcut. I think it's the same with our brain. This is getting hopelessly abstract for my wordy-powers here, but I hope I got the point across.
the thing which is weird about it is this how can a chemical tickling the brain produce a model of impossible geometry, the most profound revelations, and entities far more powerful than you. if it was random tickling of the brains circuitry like when you press your hands on your eyeballs, you get a very incoherent model of visual input. but when DMT tickles the brain you get a very coherent model of visual input. So coherent in fact people describe it as more real than real. I have my own theory about this stuff which I have no clue if It makes sense or not but its this: every second we have a total number of conscious "frames". Maybe 5000 per second. When you take psychedelics you increase the amount of conscious frames by orders of magnitude. Your brain goes into hyperdrive. Within one second you get thousands more conscious frames per second than you normally get. You perceive everything for what it is. The premise is that, by increasing the amount of conscious frames per second you get more and more complex imagery beyond what is normal.
What happens when you remember past lives and what you have seen and done haunts you, remote viewing is definitely not for everyone, thanks for your experience peace love and light
I can understand summing the geometric brilliance that unfolds before you on these trips as nothing more than your brain hallucinating. However, the distinct, deliberate, autonomous, defined presence of the beings you meet is truly hard to deny. You feel their presence just like you’d feel the presence of someone standing right next to you. I’m always blown away when I feel them leave me during the trip. Having them come to you, interact, then leave you, that blatant feeling of a presence no longer being near you is wild.
As an amateur occultist I really appreciate this video. You neither appeal to wootards who want to inject their own conclusions and conflate the phenomenon with the explanation, nor dismiss the phenomenon outright (despite the aforementioned conflation). Something people seem to miss when talking about DMT, because of this conflict of perspectives, is that there _are_ other options. Like what you say about "plant life", these could be some objective higher phenomenon but your brain is too high to perceive it correctly and they register as "machine elves" instead of whatever they actually are, if that's even conceivable. More Research Is Needed, but spiritual people don't understand what "research" means and actual scientists have better things to do which will actually get funding and won't simultaneously ruin their career. Considered in isolation, I don't think DMT or the experiences therein are particularly compelling as evidence of... anything. It doesn't suggest any kind of higher spiritual realm, it suggests a particularly effective entheogen and the entirety of the experience is a hallucination. It's interesting how universal and _specific_ the effects are, but that isn't proof of god or whatever. Considered with all the rest of spirituality, occultism, religion, and culture however, something interesting does seem to be going on and worth investigating with the scientific method. For what it's worth, people who follow the "astral body" explanation would explain phantom limb removal techniques as intentional modification of one's astral body by updating one's internal self-image. The astral "body" isn't so much considered like a fixed body that exists independent of your consciousness and moreso a projection of one's self-image on some subtle plane. Now, to what degree this is testable is... unclear, since it's nearly isomorphic to neurological explanations. Maybe if we did some astral projection studies to test for impossible information sharing to suggest _some_ kind of reality (which isn't even necessarily an "astral body", it could just as easily be telepathy/clairvoyance/psychic nonsense - assuming there are statistically significant results). But in the absence of that, occam's razor and neurological explanations win.
I had a friend tell me about her experiences with DMT. They were insane, otherworldly with otherworldly beings. The point isn't if it's real or not. The point is that it is what you experience. That experience is insane and you can't get it otherwise. Why not tap into the interdimensional experiences? It's all the same in the end.
Thanks for pointing out how "spirituality" is romanticized a lot these days or at least just turned into another tool for our ego-driven delusions. With the reincarnation example, it's interesting that while you can be reincarnated as anyone or anything, how many people talking about their past lives always claim to remember being someone famous or important. You never hear anyone saying, "Oh yeah I just remembered another of my past lives as a worm! It sure was an interesting ride, making all those tiny tunnels under the grass...Those roots sure were tasty too! What a shame. They taste so bland when you try to eat them as a human." If someone's spiritual journeys all just connect back to making them look powerful and important, they probably aren't that spiritual.
you're just repeating a joke from a comedian or a typical argument from the most ignorant perspective against reincarnation that is totally wrong... Also, why would any soul reincarnate as a lesser life form when the objective is to learn? Presumably if you're incarnating as a human, you would have little reason to reincarnate as a rat....
This unhealthy obsession with trying to make psychedelics some sort of gateway into 'other worlds' and 'dimensions' is not getting us anywhere and only serves as a counterargument to the idea that psychedelics can be mentally beneficial.
On Aya 3 weeks ago did not see any other beings, no astral projection like when I was a kid, Aya was strong, but healed narratives of trauma while my ego and respirations were really low. I used to lucid dream and OBE between 7-13 years of age. No psychedelics will ever compare to those experiences.
This Video was the reason why i wrote my master-thesis in clinical psychology about NN-DMT and in how far the state is simmilar to psychosis in schizophrenia. Thanks for your great work
@@earlofsquirrel1469 Nah, I'm tired of people fetishizing veterans like they aren't war criminals who worked for the biggest criminal organization in the world 😂 There are tons of people with mental issues who aren't murderers. Focus on them instead of r*tarded shills of the military industrial complex. Americans are such a brainwashed nation. That blind support for the military wouldn't be out of place in North Korea.
Mushrooms and DMT played a pivotal role in my journey to conquer addiction, and I've never experienced a greater sense of self control. I'm proud to say I've been clean for one year now. Psychedelic really healed me years back. These are great healing compounds! When used in proper context.
As a huge.advocate.gor.DMT Ayawausca and it's mental health benefits . For Many years.I have been exploring and involved in educating those interested and.those.ignorant The human mind is so unexplored it's so huge it holds the key to much .
Sometimes I just feel like our entire perception is a literary body, and our personalities are just a collection of the types of stories we hole ourselves into out of security. Further, I imagine psychedelic effects as just getting someone who deals only in scientific journals for twenty years to finally open up to poetry. Or perhaps just leaving the paper in front of them. Then again, a lot of psychedelics users might just be reading Sci-Fi adventures, so perhaps I just need to branch out of poetry. Maybe I'll pack a bong and finally finish House Of Leaves. That's halfway at least.
Responding to Min 28:00, My buddie and I talk about "activating the "trip mindset" by listening to music" all the time. We believe that you can indigenously activate parts of the pathways related to tripping by trying to recreate the emotional state we were in while on a trip.
That's like shamanism 101. Strong emotions overwrite weaker ones. Strong emotions are like magnets. Music can create strong emotion. Go and listen to some Ayahuasca Icaro's. You'll find plenty on YT. I am curious if they work on you even if you maybe never taken Ayahuasca yourself. I have drunk Ayahuasca and whenever I listen to an Icaros I go straight back in the ceremony. Its an instant time-machine. Takes me 3 seconds and I am there. Also since I have drunk Ayahuasca I can't drink Guinness Beer or other dark beers that taste similarly because they remind me too much of Ayahuasca and they'll make me want to projectile vomit (also in 3 seconds).
I'm optimistic about the future of psychedelic medicine. I plan to be trained in the modality and have already done so with regard to Ketamine assisted psychotherapy. It's interesting to me what Dr. K did NOT mention about DMT, sharing maybe its possible that DMT does something the brain cannot do endogenously. Here's the issue. DMT IS endogenous to the human brain, albeit in small amounts. Dr. K mentions meditation, and appropriately so. Both DMT and meditation disrupt the brain's default mode network. This is why it can feel like hitting the reset button through either practice. It is hypothesized as well that breathing exercises such as the Wim Hof method trigger a release of the brain's endogenous DMT. The future of mental health looks bright, because these treatments are seeing the light of day. I believe it's only a matter of time til it is as commonplace an intervention as CBT or Prozac.
Yo, Love the channel! Ayahuasca is not a cactus it is a mixture of Banisteriopsis caapi and Psychotria viridis. A leaf and bark mixture, generally there is various other ingredients. The leaf contains the dmt and the other aspects prevent the dmt from metabolizing too quickly in the body. The dmt referred to in the paper is not the same type of experience as in Ayahuasca. It is refined and inhaled rather than drank. The dmt in the paper provides an experience that is only 10-20 minutes long. The Ayahuasca on the other hand can last several hours. Personally I think these beings are archetypes that bubble up from our own mind/soul. We have an experience and transmission with these beings in order to understand ourselves better, like a hyperconscious version of a dream. That being said, I also think that our internal universe is as limitless as the external universe. Thanks for covering this awesome topic!
The first time… they were sock clearly archetypes. The warrior, the siren/temptress, the Jester. I came away thinking they were characters that represent my subconscious. Then I really broke through and they were like nothing I could imagine.
If you haven’t tried DMT you really know nothing about it… that’s just the way it is! Anyone else who has done it knows what I’m talking about, you can study all the books you want but until you experience something on comprehensible you will not be able to understand this
This, exactly this. I've done several psychedelics (including DMT). I've had experiences ranging from taking MDMA with friends to taking LSD in therapy with proper supervision and I'm pretty open to talking about any experience I've ever had. People always wanna know what mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ketamine, etc are like and the answer always confuses them because I can give a basic outline of effects but without lived experience they don't actually know what anything I tell is like. A big part of the psychedelic experience is literally the experience, there are internal feelings that cannot actually be described with words. You gotta try to know.
Never done DMT but have done other Psychedelics, I just remember all the hallucinations and patterns being displayed on my peripheral vision while my central vision saw normal reality. Kind of like how people don't notice the Gorilla in that Invisible Gorilla Experiment. I guess what you're looking at and what your mind see's are too different things. Or my theory your conscious mind is linked to your central vision and your unconscious mind is linked to your peripheral vision.
Yeah and which grabs your attention and then once you look there, poof gone. And not to mention when you look at something your whole peripheral vision becomes a huge pattern like a mandala, super weird
McKenna used to say that ultimately you can only achieve those states with drugs - period. But yeah McKenna was also full on mystical, and I don't believe in all those things (for now lol) so I don't know if he can be trusted 100%. Still he had a ton of experience.
using DMT You should trip with closed eyes, not allowing looking at real world. Everything that you see comes from your brain, that means You are the prismatic piece for the spectrum for visuals, "everything that You see is You" Your ideas, emotions, hopes, personalities which can be unknown and surprising even for You and all those things can appear as otherworldly beings, or pictures hard to describe or imagine. It is good to have a question or intention before a trip, sometimes You can get answers from "surreal You" 🌌
I can understand the “rhythm of the universe “. Its not that far off from what meditation teaches us. When we sit with ourselves and tune into the direct world around us, it forces us to reconcile with it. We stop our distractions which take up 99 percent of our time and we focus on the earth. Not weird at all to get a feel for what the earth and universe feel like.
I just smoked some dmt two weeks ago. It was like I was watching my mind being reconstructed while also experiencing my mind being reconstructed also as all of this is happening I am witnessing everything. What I was, who i could be, experiencing taste and conciousness all over again I can get into real in depth detail about it but it'll be pretty long. I also had a friend watch me and record me on my trip. Also ask questions as I was tripping it was amazing and terrifying at the same time
@@markfark188 ya smoking salvia 30x extract was categorically a very different experience than smoking dmt but i would say they were about equivalent in intensity, actually perhaps salvia extract had an even more profound world change than dmt (which was already very profound). I suppose dosing could play a role in comparing. When i took 5meodmt (if it was what i thought it was), that was very different in that it was oral dose and long experience unlike brief dmt or salvia trips. However i agree that having many mushroom and lsd trips under my belt was good for when i undertook 5meodmt. Some of my more unusual trips were mixing lsd and mushrooms and nitrous and mixing dextromethorphan with mushrooms. However my one and only purely bad trip was mixing dextromethorphan with box of original dramamine, i was not experiencing mere distortions and perception changes but i was actually literally and fully psychotic. That was only time i couldnt tell what was real or not. Things seemed more "normal" but the people i was talking to werent there and each thought would manifest a fully real living breathing animal near me. It was horrifying, even a simple deer standing next to me in woods made me shriek. Anyway i could distracted. There are many strong substances, those days are over.
me and my friend went through an incredibly traumatic expierience while dealing with shrooms, we were 16 at the time, just chilling and had picked out and confirmed shrooms we found around our local area. we had done them before, on a 'smaller scale' only around .5 - 1.5 grams. say 'smaller' because even that was alot for me. anyways, i say fuck it and we shredded around 6-7 grams and mixed it into yoghurt. we ate it, and the expierence was extremely negative, i dont really wanna dive further. im now 17 and am still traumatized from the expierience and im sure my friend is to. we had a bad setting, no intentions and f*cked around with something we shouldnt have. dont mess with the stuff if you dont know what your doing, as you have no idea the potency from one shroom to another. kind of a vent ig idk.
Hey kyan, personally and very unfortunately I have had extremely negative experiences induced by various substances [not at the same time](DMT, LSD, SHROOMS). I would like to know what happened to you and share a few of my stories if you are interested. Just to give you an idea of the scale of my experiences, after a certain DMT trip, i could not breath properly for a year or so... let me know if you are interested and we could exchange e-mails
These tools, show you that consciousness is a kid at heart in the form of a fractal dimension beyond the explanation of any language. It is only our experience, and misunderstanding of our experiences that changes the way we see this reality and then we become "adults", but yet still the same universal consciousness and for some, we forget the concepts of what its like being a kid and experience the fundamentals of consciousness, which is love and awareness. Our conscious awareness allows "us" the observer (aka nature) to render everything "you" see ... nothing in our world is persistent, it is you the observer which brings all matter into a physical form, but even then atoms are 99.999% empty space. This is why we sleep at night, because processing reality in the form that it is in, is a taxing process to bring all matter into existence for this infinite experience called "life" as a god. You are it.
I think a better way to describe it in my personal experience, is that DMT doesn't so much let you see other worlds, but more like you lift a filter and see more than usual of what's always there. It's like you tuned your brain to a different visual channel. I asked a question about things that don't serve the person I want to be, hit it, and entered into an infinite tunnel, where all surrounding me was a stained glass mosaic of my memories. I watched some break, and others repair.
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I think it's worth noting Ayahuasca is not a cactus it is a brew of multiple plants which are all trees, shrubs, and vines. Peyote is the cactus used by natives.
I wish I'd never heard that almost everyone meets "beings" when they do DMT because I'd like to try it one day and I feel like I'm guaranteed to see them just because that's what everyone says I'll see. I won't know if they're "for real" or just something my brain conjured up because that's what it expected to see on this particular drug.
@@Brave_SJ its just a scammer ignore the other comment. the thing you'll understand psychs when you do them in the future is that its easy to be skeptical that truth can be found in these "hallucinations." but you'll change your mind if you do them, you'll know what you've learned is real. regardless respect for putting research and time in first. these are not toys, exercise caution and care
@@Brave_SJ when you do it some future day, try to seek out n,n-DMT for your first experience. It's generally a lot mellower (but still intense beyond words) experience than 5-MeO-DMT. Get cozy in bed, breathe and meditate for a bit to clear your mind to feel at peace and at ease before inhaling the vapor. It's a 10-15 minute trance, short but you'll not really comprehend time while you're under but you can rest easy knowing you're not gonna be committed to it for the entire day like you would LSD.
I had the most deliberate distinct and unmistakable being encounter and I had no idea meeting beings would come of the trip before the 1st time I tried it.
When you're dying you most likely release DMT or something very similar along with a bunch of other chemicals. My 2 sense: This is most likely why people with near death experiences sometimes see a white light or some form of higher power. Looking into NDE stories you'll also see people sense darkness or have auditory hallucinations, it's clearly very different to smoking DMT but there are a lot of similarities.
I don't see anything clearly very different to smoking DMT, because I haven't. Eye Dew Sea ugh Ram@tickle Heir or.....I deduce thee clearly induced thy known self too sensed by being too near life's expenses: tune ear, lie, fuss, sex, pier "E", "N" says, such that the only obvious escape route, the singularly unique way out, to trust your instinct and ignore your doubt, step back forward in time to now note not any new nightly knots nascent, nor any nice nieces, naysayers or dry ice hydrants firing smoke or ether, either, although I know if I might have tried both it would be even MORE clearly very different FROM smoking, k? Despite their similarities, they're so military there's "Ohm" ill, at aeries (although there an aerie is known as a place to be alone, here an aerie is nary a place to be alone, at all: they're our Air Force's off-base drinking place's nickname; ask a vet or a veterinarian, they'll say the same), therein defer into thaw whirled.
Thanks, now I know I never want DMT. Death ain't fun 😕. I had my fun with acid, mescaline and shrooms in the 90s. I am middle aged, I don't need a bad trip. 😊
I choked on a huge lump of toffee when I was a child, I remember passing back and forth down my parents hallway as I went blue struggling for air.. my mum eventually came to relieve my airway and save me from dying. Now I can’t describe the surge that I got while coming close to dying. But let me tell you… fast forward 20 or so years and having smoked DMT I can fully admit that when I was a child and was choking my brain definitely released DMT and I fully felt what I did when I smoked DMT. I can’t explain it but it’s powerful stuff.
I'll just share that I have always has EXTREMELY vivid dreams/night terrors since I was very young. They used to be, "some of the most severe night terrors I've ever witnessed in a patient," as described by an MD in the field. But as I got older, they just turned into these entire book-long dreams. I can wake up and write down 500 pages of unfolding narrative. They always say that your brain is working to create and perceive/interpret at the same time during dreaming. But I've often found it curious that, while admittedly, yes, there are times when I KNOW I am making the dream up (there are obvious emotional triggers, etc), there are ALSO seemingly-clear instances where I would swear that I am having exchanges with some other entity who is relaying information that has been the farthest thing from my mind; information that I have been completely fixated on due to its foreign nature, as if I am studying this still picture of strangeness. The question then is, "Why is my brain making up things that I am looking at clearly, but not identifying with in any way?" It's JUST LIKE when you are listening to someone elucidate some foreign concept and your brow is furrowed, focused on pure examination. The second odd aspect is that these dreams seem more "real" than real llfe. It feels like I just went somewhere else and I was awake there and I am more asleep/unaware as I sit here and describe this right now. I'm guessing It has got to be that different areas of the brain are fracturing and talking to each other in different ways than normal. But it is tantilizing to imagine that there might be OTHER implications...
> Something as simple as gravity. Every physicist listening: Yeaaahh... as simple as gravity. *eyetwitch* [For reference, gravity is the only fundamental force that we don't have any clue how it might function but also we can't even describe properly at all scales of interactions.]
That's the point he was making, dude. It's incredibly complex to the point of being almost magical, but we observe it in very mundane terms: You drop something, it falls.
“Encountering other beings” and “entering a different world” is the only way to explain it. But using those words automatically romanticizes it. I try to rationalize it and this is my absolute best understanding so far for the entities They seem to always tell you something about yourself. Like they are you. It’s like you are talking to yourself from inside out. Dmt to me seems to be a mirror to look more directly into my inner unconscious world. Becoming more aware of this has helped me understand the trips MUCH faster and easier. So It seems to open up your mind to be able to perceive higher dimensional shapes. If you were to go look at a computer simulation of what a mathematical 4D square would look like in a 3D or 2D space, it is oddly reminiscent to what its like to perceive the shapes and “entities” on a trip. And often times you can’t bring the whole experience back in your memory very well. More like still images. It is yourself talking to yourself from above almost. That “entity” can see parts of you in which you cannot see. I also think it’s outside of time too, there’s been people (me included) who have seen something in a trip and then it appears in a different way in real life later. Like a synchronicity. I think those “entities” are always there and around us but we don’t have the capacity to perceive them. And they are guides who speak to us via intuition and ideas and synchronicities. But again, the word “entity” is romantic but there’s many other ways to say the same thing without using that word. Doing a deep dive on the word “synchronicity” also points to the exact same thing that I’m trying to represent here but from a different angle. That entity exists in a dimension with more axis than what we are familiar with. 3D has 3 axis. 4D has 4 axis which enables it to collapse inward and expand outward again. Like it can pass through itself. It is you but the part that exists in that higher dimension. Not higher in the sense that it’s above us in direction but it’s actually around and through us. It is inside and outside of you at the same time. It can see you and your life A lot like how we can see the whole picture of something on a piece of paper. Say you draw a line down the middle of the paper and two circles, one on both sides. The circles wouldn’t be able to see each other because there is a line between them. But if we could communicate with the circles, we could tell the circles there’s another circle on the other side. That’s a very primitive example but yeah It’s like you’re able to perceive your own energy body, the soul, or psyche and it manifests itself to you to show you something that may be holding you back or to make you more aware of your own energy in dealing with other people. Or it can show you your fears as well.. not knowing what that actually means is what makes it scary when that happens. However, many people will say the entities seem to be something else. Like not attached to you at all. But I think it is themselves but they just have not made that connection yet. Carl Jung psychology and psychedelics go hand in hand However, entering a different world with DMT in my experience, it’s like the other world itself is conscious. And it reacts to your presence, from my experience. It’s even harder to bring some of that back in your memory. Also I have encountered “entities” with mushrooms as well but that takes a bit of practice and learning how to work with the experience while you’re in it. With DMT, it’s almost forced on you.
I wish I could favourite/bookmark this comment. I wish I had the capacity to articulate my thoughts, words and understanding as well as you. I think you did a phenomenal job at explaining the experience.
This is the kind of answer what i was looking for. There is too much mystification going on with psychedelics, where extrapolation from a yet unknown experience leads to high level of confidence in believing dogmas created by the self reinforcement effect of the drug. Instead of giving a description, or creating the necessary formal system for the description of the experience, the individual tends to keep whatever conclusion he/she derived from the experience, and isolates its beliefs in the mystics that the current form of widely used languages are incapable of describing them. This kind of behaviour can be observed in cases of less extreme experiences as well, where the confortable feeling of 'you' do not need to be worried anymore, has way higher priority to you than approaching truth. The resulted confidence, and mysticality comes from not being able to falsify or verify the conclusions proposed, because mostly the conclusions states that logic itself is a belief, and so it cannot be comprehended. It looks like that having too much information about yourself, disables your original ability to see what is important, and instead replaces the goals you originally had with your current state, while also clearing any doubt about it.
You mistake ayahuasca and peyotl, the latter is a cactus. Ayahuasca is a mix of couple of plants, and the one originally called ayahuasca contains MAO inhibitors, not DMT. But the term ayahuasca refers to all psychoactive drinks made with that vine, and it just happens that the most popular mixture also contains leafs containing DMT, so in the west in became synonymous.
Not all please... Don't generalize it. We still have good ones in the field I was once scammed by mycocenter... Over $1,200. I learnt my lesson and still got a vendor on instagram... Am relaxed to order my products from him and get them delivered. So scout for a good vendor. I wish you the best of luck.
I can corroborate meeting "beings" while blasting off on DMT. It was as though the drug had awoken from an incredibly depthful and immersive dream, into a strange but comfortable place with two of my "friends." They regarded me gently, as though I'd stirred from a quick nap. This was years ago, and I still think about my "friends." Sometimes I feel their presence in deep meditation, as though they're watching over me. They've been a serious source of comfort in some lower moments of my life.
I'm by no means spiritual. I've been a very skeptical atheist my whole life. Still am. Something is up with that DMT stuff tho
" He will ask ˹them˺, “How many years did you remain on earth?, They will reply, “We remained ˹only˺ a day or part of a day. But ask those who kept count.” Quran, Surah Muminoon Verse 112-113
How are you not spiritual after an experience like that?
@@shotglassanhero It's just an experience he had, that doesn't mean the experience must have came from the outside / some other entity. Also, you can be spiritual and atheist at the same time, being atheist just means you don't believe in gods, not that there can't be something we cannot measure of prove. (or haven't yet)
@@experimentalcyborg Essentially what I grasp from what he said is he had a spiritual/mystical experience after using DMT but chooses not to describe it that way. And I really doubt people who say they are spiritual would ever label themselves as an atheist. The term comes with too much baggage. Even something as simple as agnostic has lost its meaning. I was an atheist for much of my young life until I recognized that we are all spiritual beings whether we believe it or not. Everyone is god, everyone is ONE-it is only an illusion that we are separate. Science has failed us, there’s no way to “know” everything. But it’s a nice story. And while Dr. K is great, I don’t think he has any idea what he’s talking about when it comes to psychedelics. Just the mere fact he’s never even taken anything makes his opinion worthless in this conversation.
This one thing makes me wary of dmt. Everyone who does it has this delusion that they can only describe as meeting other beings. Surely it is just overlapping a pathway of feeling connected to others or to ourselves, and it oversaturates that abilitg to the point where dmt users are themselves unable to challenge it. But surely to claim that is otherworldly just obfuscates the message of this real world experience. Perhaps humans evolved to such an advanced state due to our capacity to acknowledge this thing, but you know, those entities really can not be real things.
I find shrooms made me appreciate how much I don’t know and that it’s better to sit back and enjoy it and accept the weirdness instead of trying to force meaning into your life and trying to understand the universe when its better to just be part of it.
My favorite trip quote of all time, "Sometimes its best just to Be...."
Beatifully put. Mind cannot explain everything, and often just confuses and makes everything anxiety-inducing, while it really can be also fascinating and the most awesome experience to be had.
I would agree with that to some extend.
What i agree with is that you shouldn't force yourself to only accept reality if you understand it because obviously there are quite alot of things we have no idea even exist.
So i guess it would take more than a couple of life times to figure out most of what we are able to and it is certainly alot healthier to sit back and be fascinated about the wondefull side of nature than to get depressed over continuously failing to understand absolutely everything.
But that does not mean that we shouldn't ever try to get there.
We learn through the struggle and we get better and better the more we overcome obstacles.
And the good thing about that is once someone figures out something about this universe he can tell and teach the rest of us and we can pass it onto next generations.
So in conclusion don't push yourself into suicidality by forcing yourself to unravel the mysteries of the universe BUT once in a while just get your brain working and ask questions about things you whittness.
Try to get a couple of weird ideas and see if they could be real..
Who knows mabye you have a brilliant idea that happens to revolutionize our understanding of physics in some way or another.
This is exactly why I got into Taoism. I think Alan Watts is full of wisdom on this but it's really a hard thing to grasp for a first timer. "To the initiate trees are trees and mountains are mountains. The adept realizes that they are all part of the same thing. The master once again realizes that the trees are trees, and the mountains are just mountains." Another great paraphrase from Watts is that "Some people get so shocked from going through the door that they turn it into a revolving door and never end up moving forward."
Good one! It's always most impressive to me when someone can admit they don't know something, but seem interested in learning.
Joe Rogan jokes aside, DMT saved my life. I used to hate myself to the point of not wanting to be here anymore. DMT changed that and taught me how to love myself. Now I'm working on my Master's thesis about how powerful of a therapeutic tool it can be. It's called the spirit molecule for a reason
That's great, man!! Loving yourself is key💚💚💚
It is understandable Joe rogan is so vocal about it, when something changes our life for the better of course (some of) us won't be able to shut our mouth about it. I'm happy that at least they're not knocking at people's door.
you changed your life.. not the chemical. i understand what you mean, i went through the same thing with acid on feb 16 2021.. it changed my life, felt like i finally arrived on earth,. etc etc whatever u call it. i experienced the same thing. however, we must realize it is possible without drugs too.
I had a very similar experience with shrooms. I came to a realization of what I wanted to do with my life and went down that path. Am now a successful animator and much more happy with myself :) I will say tho if i just kept doing shrooms it wouldnt have helped me. I had to put in the work and stay on my path. Shrooms are good for like a mental reset but thats about it, if you keep taking them frequently you will be resetting yourself so much that you wont be able to stay on your path and it will be all ideas with no execution
@@kkokay4 the last part of turn on tune in drop out; “when you get the message turn it off” or something like that haha I’m an idiot and can’t remember…
Ayahuasca was one of the most healing and life-changing experiences of my life. It helped me to forgive people I'd never been able to forgive before, and release fears and traumas that had haunted me for my whole life. It's like I took a backpack full of emotional bricks off my shoulders, and I never put it back on.
Wow did the Ayahuasca really give you that experience. I've been experimenting with microdosing mushrooms for my depression and it does work.😮
@@MariaEstrada-w9f Yes, for depression, I'd personally do ayahuasca in a well controlled setting with experienced shamans. Microdosing can sometimes be used like a masking agent for issues, whereas high-dose psychedelic treatment can often completely resolve whatever you're going through by helping you process deep emotional traumas. The place I went to do ayahuasca is called rythmia. It's honestly the best. The place is expensive, but you gotta think of it like a brain surgery. This thing can completely alter your psyche. You wouldn't want a sub-par brain surgeon. You'd want the best. Same goes for does psychedelics for personal growth, in my opinion.
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I've wanted to go on a ayahuasca retreat for years
Bro is the yoyo psyc champ
I love when Dr K goes off the deep end with topics like this and isn’t afraid to share his real opinions despite how stigmatized they may be. Great stuff
It would have been nice if he did some basic research before doing this, so at the least he understood that this substance isn't related to cacti at all.
his research is incomplete until he experiences what he THINKS HE KNOWS
Ayahuasca is not a cactus, that would be San Pedro/peyote, mescaline containing cacti. OG ayahuasca is supposed to be a brew of MAOI containing plants that produces a slight drunkenness feeling. MAOIs are one of the previous generations of antidepressants. The confusion stems from the fact that when the brew is modified(it often is) with DMT-containing plants(there's a LOT of them) it produces a psychedelic effect due to the OG ayahuasca plants inhibiting the metabolism of DMT, which would not survive the stomach and not get into the bloodstream otherwise. The terminology is extremely messy due to the native sources constantly conflicting - and new "huascas" that were either discovered or straight up made in a lab from pharmaceuticals don't help the matter.
Sources are Hamilton's pharmacopeia (the natives refer to the OG brew as ayahuasca and call the DMT containing one differently) and general knowledge on the plants from wiki(google)
Didn't know Ayahuasca was originally a brew containing only the MAOI inhibitor with no other active ingredients. However, you're only partly right; as Ayahuasca, in addition to being the name of the brew which includes DMT-containing plants, is also the name of an individual plant: the Ayahuasca vine. The brew retains the Ayahuasca name as the vine provides the key active ingredient, the MAOI inhibitor, and as such is interpreted by ritual practitioners as the guiding force behind the experience "Madre Ayahuasca".
Thank you for citing your sources that's like the number 1 chad move you can do in a discussion forum
@queerdo never heard of 5-Meo-DMT in plants, only in Bufo Alvarius venom and synthetically produced
@@jonesaffrou6014 Its actually in yopo seeds, the oldest used psychedelic
the point to be made here I suppose is that 'Ayahuasca' has become the name for the entirety of the DMT-containing brew, as in, both plants
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Bro jogan would get along well with Dr K
HAVE
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DMT?
Joe Rogan is no where as intelligent. You guys are confusing Joe Rogan’s “openess” to ideas as intelligence. It’s not. He is open to all kinds of erroneous right wing ideas also. You seem to forget that. Just because he is accepting of your drug use doesn’t prove intelligence.
damn he's fast
5 years later, Joe, “Hahahaha they know me so well”
Dr.K: So about DMT..
*distant running*
Dr.K: Uuh?
*footsteps get closer*
Dr.K: Is that-
*somebody crashes through a window*
Joe Rogan: SOMEBODY SAY DMT?!
Dr.K: Let me think about that for a minute…
@@JamesDecker7 let me think for a minute about giving you a minute to think.
@@robertneville4469 Let me think for a minute about you thinking for a minute about giving him a minute to think.
would've been funnier if you said the kool-aid man crashed through the wall
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I had a psychedelic experience once that sent me to eternity and meeting the creator. My ego dissolved yet I was physically terrified. It was so magical and so full of love, changed my life for good. In the most positive way possible.
I'm so glad you talked about this today. I recently was hospitalised and almost died so I've been worrying a lot about death. Mentioning enlightenment has reminded me that I can at the very least start meditation and at least hopefully make some progress to minimise the fear that I have.
I've benefited so much from psychedelics. It helped with My depression, anxiety and insomnia. Psychedelics has also improved my creativity and focus. Reach out to this dude I order from. He's got all sorts of psychedelics and ships secretly
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Think of it this way. Everyone that has lived has gone trough it and will go trough it. The scary part is the unknown, but we all find out whether we worry or not.
I’ve done DMT multiple times and I’ve listened to Terrence McKenna for an accumulative 100+ or so hours talk about DMT, among other things.
He shares a story when he traveled around India where he was able to provide DMT to a yogic monk, to which the yogi simply said that what he experienced was the “lesser lights,” and one could not go past this point without truly dying.
I personally try not to get wrapped into peoples personal interpretations of what they experienced on DMT because there is so much subjective and crumpled information that a subjective person may bring back through an overwhelming dimensional pinhole, but I do think this experience has existential validity nonetheless.
he as in the yogi or McKenna
@@finnthefrog4354 the yogi, not McKenna.
Isn't there a story where two people gave a monk some shrooms and he didn't have an effect so they meditate from now on
If you really want to know what's up do psychs, do yoga and meditate. But first you gotta have your life in order otherwise this intense practice will destabilize your entire life.
@@jesterfrombeyond1776 this is so opinion based lol ive never been in a good place doing psychedelic's and also never had a single bad experience, it definitely didnt destabilize my life lmao.
did DMT for the first time about an hour ago... I'm not kidding when I say it was simultaneously the most profound and amazing 10ish minutes I've ever experienced
it lasts hours
do u means salvia? it lasts ten mins and is a physcoactive drug
@@Diego-ck2pn 15 minutes actually
@Nate real
@@Diego-ck2pn bro you've obviously only heard stories about it, it only feels like hours, it doesn't actually last hours.
I was an atheist all my life until blasting off on DMT one particular time. I won't bore you all with my experience but there is absolutely no way whatsoever that I am creative enough in any way for my brain to have "imagined" what I experienced. It was as if every moment of what happened was to show me that there was no possible way this was coming from me. The entire experience was showing me that there is far more to existence than we understand and it is far more profound than we could ever imagine. Take that for what you will, but you will never convince me what I saw was in any way dreamed up by my human brain.
Our brain is powerful as fuck we barely use any of it, it dumbs down the world for us so we see it in a particular way to our benefit for survival, but way more is going on inside
thats the problem with these inflexible "science" types are. they come up with a conclusion and dont even try it, or if they do, they dont spend the time to reserch others experiences. many people that did dmt in one way or another had very similar experiences, or experiences in a simmilar direction. if it was all just halusinated, they would be vastly different. like we also produce dmt when we sleep, thats how we dream but that is different. thats why your not gonna have a few people with a very simmilar dream (and im not talking about common stuff like flying or having teath fall out, as thoes driems still have a lot of variability).with DMT people are usually shown some cool stuff and then they are lead some were to show themselves who they are and then they are shown how to improve themselves while also shairing lots of knoladge.
im sure you learned that were all shards of one being, were all connected and were all loved on an energetic level, yet as humans we kinda come in numb so we have to reconnect. and dmt does recconect you.
theres a reson dmt has been used over centuries and its not just some halusination your brain makes up. to clame that is actually unscientific, its also unscientific to dismiss what people like me are saying just cause you cant put a ruler to our experiences or "prove" what we see. its unscientific because its statisticly implausable that over centuries and different arias around the planet all these xperienses line up.
You'd be surprised at what your brain is capable of tricking you into remembering things/experiences that didn't actually happen.
I use DMT and I am an agnostic. It’s just about trusting your mind. Your experience coming from your mind doesn’t make it any less real, or any less meaningful. Enlightenment can still be a real thing even if religion and spirituality is wrong.
@groundbreak,... i agree! these so-called experts know little to nothing. my experience left tangible articles in my possession with material world evidence witnessed by friends & family. study the quantum field theories and morpic field resonance.
the video is poorly presented by lack of real research, imo
I think accessing a part of brain differently is still valuable even if it's not an external being. We know brain does not have a singular "me" and there are parts that communicate, so just interacting with those in this altered way could give great results for mental health.
- That's what I think is happening. Not a meaningless misfunctioning illusion, nor a "real" different world, but new way to experience myself, and possibly especially parts of myself I am not usually aware of.
and I'm not saying it's not distorted experience of some "healthy potential" ... but then so is probably caffeine jitters and many other common things.
Oooh, I like this take. It fits with trip reports that I’ve seen where people have asked the ‘beings’ what they are and the beings just said, I am you. This was interpreted at very spiritual but maybe it had a more literal meaning.
I really enjoy your non biased take on this. If your people were this logical and open minded, the world would be a significantly better place
Pretty sure I have PTSD from a few psychedelics, but especially DMT. Not to say there isn't value in them, but tread with caution and start small if you're going to use them.
This is really important to let people know - me too, from Ayahuasca. It took me 8 years to get over the fear/trauma from psychedelics and work through it again. Not that the experiences were all negative, but people should realize that aya/dmt/other psychedelics doesn't always automatically lead to profoundly healing or a beautiful experience.
People really should make sure they have the right support and psychological tools, and be prepared for the possibility of your darkest shadows emerging - amplified x1000. It's no joke... All the Joe Rogan-type discussions really glamorize dmt but if you don't want/know how to do deep psychological work and just want to have a cool experience its best to stick to meditation or low dose mushrooms.
same here man, i dont think the bad effects of psychedelics are spoken about enough, i suffered from panic attacks for a good while after having a traumatic ego death. A good trip can show you the best and most amazing parts of the worlds but a bad trip can also take you down to the worst most horrifying scary and bizarre parts of life, theyre something that shouldnt be taken lightly and everyone that thinks about taking them should really know what theyre getting into
@@cozmics1191 yeah I took lots of different drugs for a period of 5 years, i then tried to heal myself quickly via the method of heavy psychedelics including smoking DMT Ayahuasca and Iboga, smoking DMT was the most traumatic experience, I encountered an entity what I believe to be an all powerful Spiritual Goddess and she is not happy with me and wants me to leave this world and join her, I am so scared, I am trying to survive the best I can but I’m traumatised by constant evil thoughts and images, maybe this is a manifestation of how I’ve lived in sin and segregation from the real world. I don’t want to die but I can’t go on in this way it’s absolutely pure pain and torture. I am praying to Jesus to save my soul but it’s overshadowed by the darkness within me, I’ve seen dark smoke entities and have constant Burning in my eye as and head, I try my best to fight but I’m losing. I would love to go to sleep and not wake up but I believe this all powerful entity wants to consume me for eternity. I’ve let some real dark things in, my whole life is like it never happened, I have amazing friends and family but nobody understands where I’m at they just thing it’s a bad phase I’m going through but I know it’s heavier than that. My advice to anyone is don’t involve yourself with these substances as they can open some portals to horrific places. Pray to Lord Jesus, I am praying to save what’s left of my soul. I am on borrowed time, please head my advice these substances are not to be taken lightly, especially the DMT. Lord have mercy on my soul.
Same, but I blame myself, I abused psychs, they showed me what they do and I just have to deal with it, I still got positive feedback from them though.
Ditto. I've been looking for this comment. I was an LSD casualty. Affected me for a long time. I was curious about DMT but it looks to be a gamble too. Thanks for posting your comment and also to those responding.
The psychedelic Renaissance is just beginning
amen brother
Plague gives way to renaissance. What else was everyone supposed to do locked up in their homes?
@@DwarvenKern Yes sir, Leonardo da Vinci came after the black plague and Isaac Newton discover the meaning of color, gravity and planetary orbit during lockdown
JOIN THE PSYCHEDELIC REVOLUTION
THE WAR ON DRUGS WAS WON BY DRUGS!
Welp, with the 01.07.2024 being right around the corner we now will witness the end of psychedelics as we knew them. With the blanket ban in the Netherlands the quality and quantity of psychedelics and any other drug in general will plummet and we're about to become witness to a new drug-crisis that is once again caused by idiotic politicians who make laws and decisions on topics that they know less about than some 4 year old kids ffs. But what is ultimately going to happen? The drugs will once again be blamed.... as always. False "FENTA OVERDOSE OMG OMG OMG" news are already rampant in the USA after one large distributor did in fact combine 4-flouro-fentanyl with Bromazolam, Flubrotizolam, Flubromazepam (ofc. all being sold as "Xanax" to appeal to the people with zero actual drug-knowledge or experience, Ketamine and MDMA, causing a good chunk of people to OD. That would've been the gist of it had the media not suddenly started to talk about fentanyl , spreading absolutely disgusting falsehoods like Fentanyl being extremely dangerous, even when applied transdermally; it causing addiction after just 1 or 2 uses, and how Fentanyl is actually obsolete in medicine and is only used because its cheaper than morphine due to potency and should therefore be banned completely. That's INSANE thinking which would be accompanied by thousands of deaths daily across the world if listened to. Invasive surgery and ICUs regularly depend on Fentanyl as the only viable option.
W/e.... enough about that... I don't even know why I started ranting about that. All I really wanted to say is, that we'll soon see a large increase in fake LSD, DMT, 2C-B, LSA, MXE, etc. etc. etc.
My idea about DMT is that it is unraveling parts of your visual cortex--and you get to see them. It's like "test mode" on an old arcade system where it shows every sprite/character the system can produce. I notice that it creates a lot of visuals that represent different things our brain's visual system does. Like you'll see repeating patterns, shapes, writing, 3d or 2d spaces, etc. I'm not totally sure how to explain when you see/meet "beings" on DMT which also totally happens.
If you will work only with the assumption that spiritual world doesnt exist then you are biased from the start and cant form proper objective theory or hypothesis...
And that is the main issue with our society. Even before experiments or theories starts to happen/be formed, people are already biased. Some atheistically biased, some religiously biased, some spiritually biased, of course.
And then that leads to too many issues
What if (no matter if on DMT, or during some meditation or in dreams or whatever) you see certain beings which are giving you advices and the advices basically always are great ones ? Maybe then in time you will not care about prooving or disprooving if those entities are real, and start being practical - communication with them (no matter if they are some angels, extraterrrestrials or just part of my own mind, or mix of multiple things) communication with them bringsm e very practical results, improove my physical life and therefore i shall continue....
And that is why many mystics, mages, shamanistic people etc exist. They dont tend to be dogmatic , if anything they tend to be the most practical people. They simply know how much it is helping themselves and people around them therefore they dont care about other proofs other than ,,this is improoving my life and lives of people around me".
PS: in ancient times, some deity, or nonphysical being or others... were considered parts of ourselves. Just not in the way modern science thinks about it ... ,,Know thyself, and you shall know the universe and the Gods" was written above entrance of one ancient greek temple. Therefore it is possible that it is BOTH some deity and part of your mind at the same time. But modern spirituality, religions or science believe that it must be one or the another :/ that it cant be both at once...
But it's so much more than just visual. Only a tiny portion of the experience is visual.
So I've done DMT and I reckon you'll love the RUclips lecture "The Hyperbolic Geometry of DMT Experiences (@Harvard Science of Psychedelics Club)", it's really fascinating shit quantifying the nature of the trip as it changes and can change on a two axis scale. It is above and beyond all the underground DMT cultural knowledge
I think people are afraid that these experience lose value if not "real". But they are actually very valuable experiences and they are as 'real' as everything else for your senses and mind. Embrace them and enjoy them.
I really appreciate your realness because im someone that needs to hear it explained this way
The last segment is an excellent summary of why meditation is so important. My contribution: imagine feeling like you took a drug that gets you high but doesn’t inhibit you, but for the rest of your life (or however long you keep the practice up.) It’s not as intense as an artificial perturbation of the mind, but it is as affective (or arguably more so). That shouldn’t devalue drugs at all - some people come to the gate of meditation through their experiences on drugs - but it isn’t the recommended path to take. The intensity can truly affect people in a negative manner that sticks with them, or which they never seem able to let go of even after years of sobriety.
i feel the same way. For me meditation is like climbing a mountain at your own pace. Taking psychedelics feels like being dropped by a helicopter on the mountain, but the problem is that you cant go down by yourself untill you fall down.
@@japano62 I was about to write the same exact example! Drugs let you feel the goal of your travel, but they don't show you the way to it.
It really is this way. It is really interesting how similar the two spaces are. For me delving into meditation and going at it for some years has slowly cultivated the openness of experience and the expansive "headspace" that I liked from psychedelics, but without the drugs. I used to experiment heavily with acid and shrooms in my early twenties and now later with DMT out of curiosity, but I don't feel like I need those tools to access the depths they take me any more. DMT is just wild, so I might return to that for the amusement park ride and I do enjoy psychedelics for their unique effect on the sensory experience, but take them very sparingly. The whole spiritual side of the experience can be accessed without them through practice, but the specific sensory experiences are unique to them. My take on, at least partially, why they induce the spiritual experiences they do is that they plunge you straight out of the possibility to identify with your sensory experience, thoughts and image of self, as all of those get so alien while on them. So they pretty much force you to the state that you try to achieve in meditation, which you traditionally do by learning to distinguish and stopping to identify with different parts of your experience and just observing it and then just becoming it.
@@japano62 Yes, I totally agree! Meditation (primarily Vipassana) is like microdosing on the purest possible psychedelic drug, slowly deconstructing experiential reality until you finally get what it is. With something like DMT, it's more like exploding reality apart for a short while and then imploding it back together and you're left thinking "what the hell was that?". It also changes the content so much, it's hard to see what is truth and what is just more "stuff". With meditation you really get to do proper investigation and digest what's happening (there can be big experiences too, but I mean relative to psychedelics). Just like Dr. K said, the insights are both profound and super ordinary.
@@megamcee its kinda like scouting too. you'll see a lot of things on the way. even if you trip down the moutain after being dropped in, you've learned some of the pitfalls and truths on different parts of that mountain once you heal and rest up and woke your way back up the mountain. just a random thought.
I would love to do the DMT again or rather Magic Mushrooms, just don't know where to get them. I only did DMT once, I was in a geometrical universe...it’s very hard to explain but I was laying down and all of a sudden my body was zoomed into another world, So many colors, machine elves. Would love to experience that again
Wanna try, but keep being told I can’t do it alone for the first time but I’d literally be so much more comfortable alone
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@@userconspiracynut is he on IG or what?
when i tried shrooms i ate way more than i should of because i thought they wouldn’t work and then my face got numb and i threw up shrooms and my friend was laughing but trying to comfort me and the bathroom lights were flickering cuz they were old and i had to go home
@@ugmiles. yeah, He has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, LSD, DMT even the chocolate bars
This is what keeps me up at night... Detachment from what I've felt like the true reality through psychedelics. I made promises to myself in those moments; I felt the entire universe inside myself. I want to revisit those places. I go float in a sensory deprivation tank every week, and it serves as a reminder to myself of what matters.
Yeah, once you’ve felt something realer then real it’s hard to feel like our reality is the reality.
But I’d rather not focus on that because that’s way over my head. We are obviously here for a reason. Might as well enjoy my time while I’m here.
One thing is certain - this guy has never done DMT
Just cocaine 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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but it seems he may have the ability to comprehend it
@@Piccolo_Suni have the ability to comprehend it aswell, by eating the devil fruit
@@m0zzar353 interesting seems you have awareness of the allegory that is in onepice do you have content on it ?i only see gaming videos i have related things i put together aswell
never imagined to find this sort of discussion on this channel, but im not really surprised. your vids are always full of great insight, this one is no exception
Dr. K. you really did a good job of talking publicly about these important things. I didn’t expect it of you, since you always were cautious about such matters but you clearly handled it as well as it was possible. Deep appreciation 🙏
A theory I just thought of is that it's possible to reach that level of "awareness" without psychedelics but it takes time to do it.
It's a lot quicker and more jarring to just take a natural stimulant like DMT.
That's why it's so "romanticized" because one second you're experiencing normal human awareness and the next you're seeing "everything at once"
It's like a natural cheat code that the developers put in the game only for speed runners and hard-core players
It's romanticized because of the intensity of the experience, not simply because of the contrast to 'normal awareness' and suddeness of that transition. I'm sure if you could reach the same state of consciousness endogenously, which itself is dubious, you would likely romanticize it just as much.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you talk like someone who has never taken psychidelics.
Psychs are more romanticisable because of the sensory fuckery (in the coolest way), to a degree that is unachievable through meditation. The core _experience_ of oneness and awareness are the same though. As a psychonaut and fan of eastern spiritual teachers, you're entirely correct, and it's been corroborated by many renowned consciousness explorers.
@@sentinelshoshin4632 the truth is we prolly will never know why it's exactly romanticized cuz you can't read people's minds but I agree with what you're saying too. Both things can be true.
To answer your question, no I haven't taken a psychedelic before. Maybe one day though.
I'm just a huge philosophy and psychology fan
@@sentinelshoshin4632 100% facts. Took the words right from my mouth, especially that last bit
I didn’t care for psychedelics until I tried them. Mushrooms showed me spirit
Lsd educated me to find a new understanding of my own thinking, helped me realize that I like the way information flows through my brain
Dmt transcended my soul and gave me the most sacred experience that should not exist and will probably stick with me for life , influencing my anxieties fears and mental burdens.
I think there is the slight chance, that just maybe
They are romanticized for the corny truth , they’re the real deal .
This is the last thing I expected on this channel. Listening now and will edit later since I've had some experiences with dmt myself
Looking forward to reading your take on it :D
same, I've only heard two accounts of what it's like
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He gave up 😂
@@grants.231He left our dimension
when i was younger my dad had a pretty bad alcohol problem. He wasn’t really an “alcoholic” but he was getting very close to becoming one. He was short tempered and angry all the time and it put stress on my whole family. He decided to go to an ayahuasca retreat one day when i was 12 and it completely changed him. He quit alcohol cold turkey and became a more patient and happy person over all just from that one experience. He said it was one of the most heart wrenching, painful, and healing experiences he’s ever had. To this day i thank ayahuasca for bringing me my dad back.
Never thought you’d make a video like this I love exploring this drug from time to time
I was literally reading this article last night and it kept me up all night thinking. I really hope more research is done. We need to fix their schedule 1 status so we can have proper scientific understanding of what's happening and if there's a health benefit to certain people.
You can do it at home. Anyone that can follow a simple process and source a couple ingredients that are legal you can make all the dmt you could ever want. They are doing at home ketamine treatments online in some states.
they dont want you to have an understanding lol, thaqts why its scedual 1, like weed was. DMT shows ppl that this is all a play, were all in a school to learn, be better and to have fun and to be free. the people dont weant people free mentally, they want us stuck on all these material things so we dont have time to apriciate life. cause if we did, we would realize we live in a bullshit way cause we let governemnts and corperations controll us. they dont want us realizing that if we all work together and love each other instead of fight one another, we could all create a much better world, one without them and their control. and they cant have that
Ayahuasca is not a cactus, it is drink made out of two different plants: Jagube and Chacrona which only produce its effect when both are mixed.
Exactly; Correct me if I'm wrong but I think one is a vine and the other ingredient are leaves, the vine contains DMT and the leaves contain MAO-inhibitors. MAO counters the effects of DMT, that's why you have to take the inhibitors.
Edit: it's the other way around
I believe the Cactus he is referencing is Peyote prob just got the two mixed up.
@@L.K.48 MAO is an enzyme that breaks DMT down pretty quickly and makes the trip last only 30min. The MAO-inhibitors prolongue the effects of DMT to various hours
I think he meant peyote fwiw
@@obamos7870 oh okay but isn't it more like 3 minutes?
This was very interesting! I hope to hear more about these types of topics on your channel!
7:00 ayahuasca is not a cactus. It translates to "vine of the dead", or "vine of souls", and is a combination of the banasteriopsis caapi vine (ayahuasca, a natural MAOI) and leaves of Chakruna (mimosa hostilis, a DMT containing leaf)
The peculiar thing is that the two plants don't grow anywhere near one another, and the shamanic explanation for how the combination was discovered was, "the plants told us".
Feels good to correct the psychiatrist. 😁 even though I'm positive his knowledge of substances far surpasses mine.
a strong dmt trip is among one of the most intense, transformative, amazing and (potentially) euphoric experiences you can possibly have.
Man the come down the first tried it was just a complete blast of euphoria. I could feel the energy in everything I touched
@@jeffd5999 legit the comedown was so insane I could feel my curtains flapping iykyk
I rather get laid 😂
Instead of “dimension” a good word is “categories”
When our brain interprets things that we don’t have categories for, we either simplify their complexity and put it into pre-comprehended categories or we don’t even perceive them at all.
Fantastically realistic analogy
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we can talk about this through the map/territory distinction. there is some real, unknowable *territory* that we *map* as reality with our senses and brains. dmt gives us a different map of the territory, but neither map actually is the territory
See we don't know that, since the largest part of the intra dimensional tripping and seeing and feeling different things is internally, external inputs get distorted but it's not like you suddenly realize your kitchen was something else all along. And the internal tripping could be explained away with the experiences being your realization/interpretation of internal subconscious processes that you don't get to actively process and think about.
You're such a great channel. Can'tagree with you on everything but it's entertaining to hear your thoughts all the way through. Will definitely be back for the next one.
With over 20 years of occult practice, on and off, and some DMT experiences under my belt, what I have come to realise is that the scientific method is so shallow when it comes to these things. They dismiss the mystical, while the mystic agrees that both can be true at the same time. Science only sees one side.
Science doesnt acknowledge the existence of Spirits, or the existence of alternative, accessible, Planes of Existence and non-physical Entities due to their 'materialistic' views and the way they have been trained in their field of science, whether it be medicine, chemistry, psychology or even quantum physics.
Magicians and Psychonauts have been studying and exploring these things for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.
They accept science and strive to bridge the gap, scientists on the other hand generally dismiss the Magicians and Psychonauts as they dont fit into a 'model', not to mention the funding and grants they need, that have to produce the results that the funder requires.
The first thing I ask, when watching or reading something like this, is did the writer or video creator try the drug or the occult practice, not once but many times. 99% of the time they didnt even try it once, therefore their 'opinion', which is all it is, is so limited as to be useless, like academic masturbation.
The science hasnt caught up with the nuances of experiences, and probably wont for a long, long time. Just because you cant prove it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.
There are many who have gone before, their experiences are on the record, whether it be trip reports or magical diaries.
To all the scientists, physicians, psychologists, anthropologists etc , taste the source of what you are studying, Conjure a Demon, smoke the DMT, more than once. Open your eyes by having the experience, your science will be better for it. But there are risks.
Listening to these with an open mind instead of a biased one is so much more enjoyable, just thinking can be engaging
On the question of DMT beings possibly being "real" in the sense that DMT can be sort of like a telescope. From personal experience with DMT and other psych, they are clearly not real in that sense as the mechanisms of action required in order to contact other dimensional beings can't just evolve by accident in our brain. It's simply not how evolution works. But with that said, experiences of interacting with other foreign beings still can be real in another very important sense:
Consider that consciousness can be split, which we know from split brain patient experiments. Consider the phenomena of consciousness does not necessarily require human brain, since birds definitely and maybe even some insects have some form of it. And consider that psychedelics completely mess up the inner workings of the brain. What might be happening is the shattering of the unified consciousness into many individual shards, each one inherently completely alien due to being under the influence of a drug and suddenly finding itself outside of it's regular function and environment. The alien beings found in DMT experiences, could be those shards. If so, it would be true to say that the user actually did communicate with another alien form of consciousness separate from themselves.
Not only would this theory explain beings found in DMT experiences, but also memories of a trip often not being coherent in time and it would even provide a mechanism of action for the experience of ego death as the dissolution of the unified consciousness into some of its elements. It would legitimize the first person aspect of the experience of dying during ego-death being real, as consciousness really technically is experiencing itself falling apart. It would also somewhat explain the feeling of understanding the true fabric of reality, since you get the chance to see the individual shards that you as a consciousness are made from. It would also put it into perspective why trips can be so terrifying and how seemingly nonsensical experiences can feel so absolutely utterly real.
I had an experience of perceiving "me" being the same thing as the infinity that surrounded me.
Pretty neat, especially considering it was only self-inquiry.
@@CFChristian I've had that same experience myself as well. I'd elaborate it as realizing how everything only exists as defined by all the first person experiences of reality that ever existed or will exist, and how there's nothing objectively special about my particular perspective, that my perspective of existence being privileged in some way by being mine is an illusion.
Could also explain it as a kind of a dissolution of the question of why am I me and not somebody or something else. Kind of shift of identity away from me as a particular self, and towards a perspective of being equally everyone and everything. I found this state profoundly scary though, as I noticed the implication that I have and will experience all suffering that ever was and will be, I just wont remember it, in a way.
Ever since experiencing such a perspective, I can shift myself towards it by remembering all this. I've tried to continue identifying as the whole universe but found it emotionally too overwhelming, so I grounded myself in the physicality of my own body in order to identify as an individual.
I think our society would be an infinitely better place if everyone somehow got to experience this at least once, whether through psychedelics or meditation or whatever else, as nothing can impart a larger sense of empathy towards all living beings.
Rather than your weird definition of shards, I'd posit that dmt could force different areas of the brain to function independently of eachother, therefore othering the other areas, that is therefore interpreted spatially as we try to recognise and 'bring together' the mental image, all before the pathways can flow freely again and our brain acknowledges itself and asserts dominance over the rest of the system. That is why the entities 'fade' and do not remain, as our understanding of what is happening improves to the level of reality. For some reason dmt users stress the significance of these entities, and are unable to question if they were entities or not, but I feel like if they knew exactly what was happening to their brain & why, they wouldn't need to cling to such esoteric definitions
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@@Eagleshadow I totally get what you're saying in that second paragraph. It shakes me to my core to think about. I've never done DMT or anything close to that, but even since I was a little kid I felt disillusioned by the realization that I will only get to experience being in this body with this mind. I desperately want to share and explore the inter-dimensional depth and width of conscious experience to a level that just seems impossible. It's the deepest source of my suffering. It's like feeling alone in a room full of people you know and love, but with an additional realization that this is how it always was and always will be... alone in your mind.
I can't find a source anywhere for any good psychedelics in my area. I suffer some pretty bad depression and i got a chance to try K and man it was a miracle substance, I felt free, the only high or euphoria was from the relief of my vices being released, that's exactly what it did
The psychedelic experience is temporary but many people have permanent results first shrooms trip was really awesome, it felt like i was deep into the sea
Magic mushrooms don't only help with mental health, they help amplify your empathy, if people were more empathetic the world would be a better place
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Got psych's
tripping is not a bad idea but having a Mycologist who will recommend you the dosage is the best option
@@Lisa78843 is he on Instagram or what?
Love it. I had just had a conversation with a coworker about physics, quantum physics, entanglement, space-time, etc, where I explained that our perception of reality is simply that; a perception, not reality. And then this video was released. Good timing!
Jada Pinkett Smith understands well about entanglement.
@@oponomo lol
While I agree it applies to quantum scale, I would like to know why is our perception of reality on larger scale not a reality.
@@Opposition2 Not best explained (or at all) in my comment, but the part where we were discussing reality being just a perception revealed around our individual perceptions being biased due to our personal experiences, preferences, preconceived beliefs, etc, of what something is, instead of what it is when it is independent of us.
Amazing content Dr. K. Love watching science and spirituallity come together in one video. I appreciate your perspectives and insights very much!
For me the most profound things during a DMT trip are not the meeting of entities or visuals, but the moments where you realize new patterns linking real world phenomena to each other. For example feeling warmth or cold as the wave amplitude sum maximums from harmonically oscilating particles in the nerve cells in your skin. Or seeing how certain geometric patterns in nature emerge and how the same emergent mechanics also affect galaxy structures.
I think that under no normal circumstance can the brain process information that way. Being able to see the individual momentum of thousands of objects and how they interact with each other. We know we can simulate these things with computers that are millions of times less efficient than our brains, yet we can't normally calculate that.
DMT has proven to me not that god exists or that everyone is connected, but that our minds are capable of so much more than we think. While most research on psychedelics is focused on improving mental health i think they have potential for even more if used correctly. Some savants can for example calculate using geometry and convert numbers and mathematical operations into shapes that immediately reveal the answer to those operations. Our brain seems to struggle with the language of arithmetic mathematic expressions, but atleast under psychedelics we seem to have the capacity of incredibly complex geometric calculations.
Psychedelics are known to induce neuroplasticity (which means they can also have long term negative side-effects like HPPD) thus my theory is that it could be possible to create connections in the brain for a mathematical-geometric language. So now whenever i trip i try to think of mathematical problems.
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"We dont really have evidence of this, we dont have pictures"
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I know it's a joke, I've experienced Alex Grey visions many times, sometimes even sober while doing WILD or just trying to fall asleep. But what dr K means that you can experience something "like that" but not the same thing. We all experience the same moon wherever you place your telescope. You can't see the same entity with your friend unless you describe it. I wonder if humanity ever achieves some kind of brain-to-brain thought transfer, that way everything that we can think about would become a reality, because we would have physical data descibing it.
You should check out symmetric visions. He's a visual artist who replicates psychedelics. Has his own youtube channel, his stuff is extremely accurate it's wild.
this was one of my favorite Joe Rogan podcasts
What an abrupt ending lol. Very interesting though. Appreciate your courage talking about experiences many will dismiss.
Thank you for this upload man! I had pretty significant use of psychedelics growing up and even tried dmt a few times and had one incredibly intense and sacred experience beyond words that I will probably remember for the rest of my life.
I appreciate this opportunity to integrate your really great western perception along with the other perceptions out there.
I’ve spent many years going through life trying to integrate an explanation to some of these sort of unexplainable mysteries. Studying any and all I’ve who I’ve considered educated and wise in their respected ways .
From me to all you, I don’t know what this molecule is , I don’t know why we have it inside of our cosmic creations,
But those experiences were more real than real and the most subjectively sacred experiences I have ever felt, and the fact that it even exists alone should cause an eyebrow raise from human beings as a species. I even went as far as to experiment with raga and Indian vibrasonics that some characters of the 60s counter culture claimed would ‘tune you into your vibration’ & though my conclusions are mine to defend it made a significant influence on my experience. Very significant. Worth suspending disbelief towards certain aspects of ancient & eastern civilizations and various figures who have dedicated their lives to things like meditation and the ‘weird stuff’.
Psychedelics bend the structure of reality and they will never be able to be understood by one mind alone . Society has put them on the shelf of things we do not talk about, But I genuinely whole heartedly believe that through responsible and intelligent use we can create a sort of understanding 2.0 of both reality and our place on this planet .
Greater understanding, growth, empathy, collective realizations, Love.
Peace and love to you all !
Zen practitioner here - after sufficient practice and experience, it’s apparent that the self is just a construct of the mind. It’s a useful construct for sure, but there is no real, permanent, abiding agent there that we think of as the self. As such, it seems to me our brains can just as easily create “other” selves or beings that appear as real to us as our own selves do.
one of my favorite terence mckenna quotes:
"A man moved near a river and, wanting to find a way to travel across the water, spent ten years forming a type of levitation that would allow him to float across it.
Buddha, who was preaching in town, was confronted by this man, who said, “Look master, look what I have achieved. I can walk across the water.”
And Buddha said, “Yeah, but the ferry only costs a nickel…"
to me, DMT is the ferry over to the new land, but can only get so close to the shore without wrecking. Eventually, you'll have to jump off the ferry and swim the rest.
maybe when we will die we will see these dmt entities like we see ourself in this reality in 5D.
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You know how when you press on your eyeball, you see a spot? That's an external force tickling your nerves, that your brain interprets as a visual thing, but it really has no physical object attached to it. But your visual cortex and whatnot doesn't know that, and it interprets it the best it can, and you see a blob. I think that's kinda like how a psychedelic creates the perception of there being an otherwordly being, or a completely alien space. It's the drug tickling the parts of your brain that interpret external beings or physical spaces. It really might feel like it's real, an actual external thing that exists in the world (or A world) somewhere, but that doesn't mean that it's actually "real".
That doesn't mean it can't be useful, or interesting. It can give you a little glimpse to the inner workings of your brain, and make you notice things about yourself and your subjective experience that you wouldn't've otherwise noticed.
Imagine a complicated mechanical machine. You can infer something of it's inner workings just by looking at it, seeing how the visible parts of it move about, and seeing what it's doing. But if you poke it just right in a particulacr spot, and perhaps make it malfunction in some interesting way, you might see easier how it works. "So I stuck a screwdriver it that hole, and it made a crunching noise, and that wheel there stopped spinning, so there must be a cog or something there". You might've been able to infer that anyways without poking it, but it's a nice shortcut. I think it's the same with our brain. This is getting hopelessly abstract for my wordy-powers here, but I hope I got the point across.
the thing which is weird about it is this
how can a chemical tickling the brain produce a model of impossible geometry, the most profound revelations, and entities far more powerful than you.
if it was random tickling of the brains circuitry like when you press your hands on your eyeballs, you get a very incoherent model of visual input.
but when DMT tickles the brain you get a very coherent model of visual input. So coherent in fact people describe it as more real than real.
I have my own theory about this stuff which I have no clue if It makes sense or not but its this:
every second we have a total number of conscious "frames". Maybe 5000 per second. When you take psychedelics you increase the amount of conscious frames by orders of magnitude. Your brain goes into hyperdrive.
Within one second you get thousands more conscious frames per second than you normally get. You perceive everything for what it is.
The premise is that, by increasing the amount of conscious frames per second you get more and more complex imagery beyond what is normal.
What happens when you remember past lives and what you have seen and done haunts you, remote viewing is definitely not for everyone, thanks for your experience peace love and light
@Stacy_pope ??
I can understand summing the geometric brilliance that unfolds before you on these trips as nothing more than your brain hallucinating.
However, the distinct, deliberate, autonomous, defined presence of the beings you meet is truly hard to deny.
You feel their presence just like you’d feel the presence of someone standing right next to you.
I’m always blown away when I feel them leave me during the trip. Having them come to you, interact, then leave you, that blatant feeling of a presence no longer being near you is wild.
As an amateur occultist I really appreciate this video. You neither appeal to wootards who want to inject their own conclusions and conflate the phenomenon with the explanation, nor dismiss the phenomenon outright (despite the aforementioned conflation). Something people seem to miss when talking about DMT, because of this conflict of perspectives, is that there _are_ other options. Like what you say about "plant life", these could be some objective higher phenomenon but your brain is too high to perceive it correctly and they register as "machine elves" instead of whatever they actually are, if that's even conceivable. More Research Is Needed, but spiritual people don't understand what "research" means and actual scientists have better things to do which will actually get funding and won't simultaneously ruin their career.
Considered in isolation, I don't think DMT or the experiences therein are particularly compelling as evidence of... anything. It doesn't suggest any kind of higher spiritual realm, it suggests a particularly effective entheogen and the entirety of the experience is a hallucination. It's interesting how universal and _specific_ the effects are, but that isn't proof of god or whatever. Considered with all the rest of spirituality, occultism, religion, and culture however, something interesting does seem to be going on and worth investigating with the scientific method.
For what it's worth, people who follow the "astral body" explanation would explain phantom limb removal techniques as intentional modification of one's astral body by updating one's internal self-image. The astral "body" isn't so much considered like a fixed body that exists independent of your consciousness and moreso a projection of one's self-image on some subtle plane. Now, to what degree this is testable is... unclear, since it's nearly isomorphic to neurological explanations. Maybe if we did some astral projection studies to test for impossible information sharing to suggest _some_ kind of reality (which isn't even necessarily an "astral body", it could just as easily be telepathy/clairvoyance/psychic nonsense - assuming there are statistically significant results). But in the absence of that, occam's razor and neurological explanations win.
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I really wish he'd try it.
You can read about it all you want but you'll never get it until you experience it for yourself.
I had a friend tell me about her experiences with DMT. They were insane, otherworldly with otherworldly beings. The point isn't if it's real or not. The point is that it is what you experience. That experience is insane and you can't get it otherwise. Why not tap into the interdimensional experiences? It's all the same in the end.
We'll never forget you as well, it's wonderful to see integrity in war times. Not often seen.
‘Is it like a phantom limb, or is it like a telescope looking at the moon? ‘THIS IS THE QUESTION THIS IS IT.
Thanks for pointing out how "spirituality" is romanticized a lot these days or at least just turned into another tool for our ego-driven delusions. With the reincarnation example, it's interesting that while you can be reincarnated as anyone or anything, how many people talking about their past lives always claim to remember being someone famous or important. You never hear anyone saying, "Oh yeah I just remembered another of my past lives as a worm! It sure was an interesting ride, making all those tiny tunnels under the grass...Those roots sure were tasty too! What a shame. They taste so bland when you try to eat them as a human." If someone's spiritual journeys all just connect back to making them look powerful and important, they probably aren't that spiritual.
Not true I vividly remember my past life as a carrot and I yearn to return to that state of catatonic bliss
Not true. I do regression hypnosis and so far none of my clients has experienced a lifetime as someone important or famous.
You need to ask the worm, remember?
you're just repeating a joke from a comedian or a typical argument from the most ignorant perspective against reincarnation that is totally wrong...
Also, why would any soul reincarnate as a lesser life form when the objective is to learn?
Presumably if you're incarnating as a human, you would have little reason to reincarnate as a rat....
This unhealthy obsession with trying to make psychedelics some sort of gateway into 'other worlds' and 'dimensions' is not getting us anywhere and only serves as a counterargument to the idea that psychedelics can be mentally beneficial.
On Aya 3 weeks ago did not see any other beings, no astral projection like when I was a kid, Aya was strong, but healed narratives of trauma while my ego and respirations were really low. I used to lucid dream and OBE between 7-13 years of age. No psychedelics will ever compare to those experiences.
Are you on medication? Psychedelics should be avoided on meds.
Ayahuasca is a mix of leaves and vines that grow in the amazon rainforest. The cactus is mescaline wich is also great
This Video was the reason why i wrote my master-thesis in clinical psychology about NN-DMT and in how far the state is simmilar to psychosis in schizophrenia. Thanks for your great work
Lysergic acid diethylamide and psilocybin helped me immensely with my depression and prevented me from committing suicide.
same
As an aspiring psychedelic therapist who wants to work with veterans, I'm glad you are bringing up more about psychedelics!
Veterans deserve their mental issues. Do they really believe that killing people in foreign countries has no consequences?
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@@earlofsquirrel1469 Nah, I'm tired of people fetishizing veterans like they aren't war criminals who worked for the biggest criminal organization in the world 😂 There are tons of people with mental issues who aren't murderers. Focus on them instead of r*tarded shills of the military industrial complex. Americans are such a brainwashed nation. That blind support for the military wouldn't be out of place in North Korea.
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Great perspective but I missed the part where we learn how to have an OBE without drugs 😅
Its easier if u have one with drugs first so u know the kind of state of mind u need to be in
Mushrooms and DMT played a pivotal role in my journey to conquer addiction, and I've never experienced a greater sense of self control. I'm proud to say I've been clean for one year now.
Psychedelic really healed me years back. These are great healing compounds! When used in proper context.
As a huge.advocate.gor.DMT Ayawausca and it's mental health benefits .
For Many years.I have been exploring and involved in educating those interested and.those.ignorant
The human mind is so unexplored it's so huge it holds the key to much .
Sometimes I just feel like our entire perception is a literary body, and our personalities are just a collection of the types of stories we hole ourselves into out of security.
Further, I imagine psychedelic effects as just getting someone who deals only in scientific journals for twenty years to finally open up to poetry. Or perhaps just leaving the paper in front of them.
Then again, a lot of psychedelics users might just be reading Sci-Fi adventures, so perhaps I just need to branch out of poetry.
Maybe I'll pack a bong and finally finish House Of Leaves. That's halfway at least.
I tried it once. I saw Kali. I’m not Hindu. I have to admit, it confused me.
Responding to Min 28:00, My buddie and I talk about "activating the "trip mindset" by listening to music" all the time. We believe that you can indigenously activate parts of the pathways related to tripping by trying to recreate the emotional state we were in while on a trip.
There is definitely music i have listened to during a trip where if i listen to it sober the same feelings and images come back. It's very strange.
That's like shamanism 101. Strong emotions overwrite weaker ones. Strong emotions are like magnets. Music can create strong emotion.
Go and listen to some Ayahuasca Icaro's. You'll find plenty on YT. I am curious if they work on you even if you maybe never taken Ayahuasca yourself.
I have drunk Ayahuasca and whenever I listen to an Icaros I go straight back in the ceremony. Its an instant time-machine. Takes me 3 seconds and I am there.
Also since I have drunk Ayahuasca I can't drink Guinness Beer or other dark beers that taste similarly because they remind me too much of Ayahuasca and they'll make me want to projectile vomit (also in 3 seconds).
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I'm optimistic about the future of psychedelic medicine. I plan to be trained in the modality and have already done so with regard to Ketamine assisted psychotherapy.
It's interesting to me what Dr. K did NOT mention about DMT, sharing maybe its possible that DMT does something the brain cannot do endogenously. Here's the issue. DMT IS endogenous to the human brain, albeit in small amounts. Dr. K mentions meditation, and appropriately so. Both DMT and meditation disrupt the brain's default mode network. This is why it can feel like hitting the reset button through either practice. It is hypothesized as well that breathing exercises such as the Wim Hof method trigger a release of the brain's endogenous DMT.
The future of mental health looks bright, because these treatments are seeing the light of day. I believe it's only a matter of time til it is as commonplace an intervention as CBT or Prozac.
Yo, Love the channel!
Ayahuasca is not a cactus it is a mixture of Banisteriopsis caapi and Psychotria viridis. A leaf and bark mixture, generally there is various other ingredients. The leaf contains the dmt and the other aspects prevent the dmt from metabolizing too quickly in the body.
The dmt referred to in the paper is not the same type of experience as in Ayahuasca. It is refined and inhaled rather than drank. The dmt in the paper provides an experience that is only 10-20 minutes long. The Ayahuasca on the other hand can last several hours.
Personally I think these beings are archetypes that bubble up from our own mind/soul. We have an experience and transmission with these beings in order to understand ourselves better, like a hyperconscious version of a dream. That being said, I also think that our internal universe is as limitless as the external universe. Thanks for covering this awesome topic!
The first time… they were sock clearly archetypes. The warrior, the siren/temptress, the Jester. I came away thinking they were characters that represent my subconscious. Then I really broke through and they were like nothing I could imagine.
If you haven’t tried DMT you really know nothing about it… that’s just the way it is! Anyone else who has done it knows what I’m talking about, you can study all the books you want but until you experience something on comprehensible you will not be able to understand this
This, exactly this. I've done several psychedelics (including DMT). I've had experiences ranging from taking MDMA with friends to taking LSD in therapy with proper supervision and I'm pretty open to talking about any experience I've ever had. People always wanna know what mushrooms, LSD, DMT, ketamine, etc are like and the answer always confuses them because I can give a basic outline of effects but without lived experience they don't actually know what anything I tell is like. A big part of the psychedelic experience is literally the experience, there are internal feelings that cannot actually be described with words. You gotta try to know.
Never done DMT but have done other Psychedelics, I just remember all the hallucinations and patterns being displayed on my peripheral vision while my central vision saw normal reality. Kind of like how people don't notice the Gorilla in that Invisible Gorilla Experiment. I guess what you're looking at and what your mind see's are too different things. Or my theory your conscious mind is linked to your central vision and your unconscious mind is linked to your peripheral vision.
Taking shrooms i remember seeing fractals and faces when i closed my eyes during the peak of it. I didnt have a scale so i half assed my doses though.
That's a really interesting theory. It makes me think of how paranoia makes people see things (usually in the peripheral vision).
Yeah and which grabs your attention and then once you look there, poof gone. And not to mention when you look at something your whole peripheral vision becomes a huge pattern like a mandala, super weird
now, the question is. can we mimic the brain effects of DMT with meditation? if yes, then this will be huge.
McKenna used to say that ultimately you can only achieve those states with drugs - period.
But yeah McKenna was also full on mystical, and I don't believe in all those things (for now lol)
so I don't know if he can be trusted 100%. Still he had a ton of experience.
using DMT You should trip with closed eyes, not allowing looking at real world. Everything that you see comes from your brain, that means You are the prismatic piece for the spectrum for visuals, "everything that You see is You"
Your ideas, emotions, hopes, personalities which can be unknown and surprising even for You and all those things can appear as otherworldly beings, or pictures hard to describe or imagine.
It is good to have a question or intention before a trip, sometimes You can get answers from "surreal You" 🌌
I can understand the “rhythm of the universe “. Its not that far off from what meditation teaches us. When we sit with ourselves and tune into the direct world around us, it forces us to reconcile with it. We stop our distractions which take up 99 percent of our time and we focus on the earth. Not weird at all to get a feel for what the earth and universe feel like.
I just smoked some dmt two weeks ago. It was like I was watching my mind being reconstructed while also experiencing my mind being reconstructed also as all of this is happening I am witnessing everything. What I was, who i could be, experiencing taste and conciousness all over again I can get into real in depth detail about it but it'll be pretty long. I also had a friend watch me and record me on my trip. Also ask questions as I was tripping it was amazing and terrifying at the same time
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If there is anything stronger than DMT for psychedelic experiences, I don't want to know about it. I cant image anything more intense than a dmt trip.
5-MeO-DMT and Salvia Divinorum. Sorry, now you know.
5meo DMT is even stronger
@@markfark188 ya smoking salvia 30x extract was categorically a very different experience than smoking dmt but i would say they were about equivalent in intensity, actually perhaps salvia extract had an even more profound world change than dmt (which was already very profound). I suppose dosing could play a role in comparing. When i took 5meodmt (if it was what i thought it was), that was very different in that it was oral dose and long experience unlike brief dmt or salvia trips. However i agree that having many mushroom and lsd trips under my belt was good for when i undertook 5meodmt. Some of my more unusual trips were mixing lsd and mushrooms and nitrous and mixing dextromethorphan with mushrooms. However my one and only purely bad trip was mixing dextromethorphan with box of original dramamine, i was not experiencing mere distortions and perception changes but i was actually literally and fully psychotic. That was only time i couldnt tell what was real or not. Things seemed more "normal" but the people i was talking to werent there and each thought would manifest a fully real living breathing animal near me. It was horrifying, even a simple deer standing next to me in woods made me shriek. Anyway i could distracted. There are many strong substances, those days are over.
datura, but its entirely consumed by idiots that are chasing some impossible high.
Ayahuasca is made from the Caapi vine and another plant containing an MAOI inhibitor. Cactus? Your thinking of San Pedro or Peyote.
7:00 ayahuasca is made by a mixture of vines and plants found in the amazon. Payote is the cactus used by native americans and it contains mescaline
me and my friend went through an incredibly traumatic expierience while dealing with shrooms, we were 16 at the time, just chilling and had picked out and confirmed shrooms we found around our local area. we had done them before, on a 'smaller scale' only around .5 - 1.5 grams. say 'smaller' because even that was alot for me. anyways, i say fuck it and we shredded around 6-7 grams and mixed it into yoghurt. we ate it, and the expierence was extremely negative, i dont really wanna dive further. im now 17 and am still traumatized from the expierience and im sure my friend is to. we had a bad setting, no intentions and f*cked around with something we shouldnt have. dont mess with the stuff if you dont know what your doing, as you have no idea the potency from one shroom to another. kind of a vent ig idk.
Hey kyan, personally and very unfortunately I have had extremely negative experiences induced by various substances [not at the same time](DMT, LSD, SHROOMS). I would like to know what happened to you and share a few of my stories if you are interested. Just to give you an idea of the scale of my experiences, after a certain DMT trip, i could not breath properly for a year or so... let me know if you are interested and we could exchange e-mails
6-7g while never have taking more than 1.5g. No wonder you had a bad experience, that's a super high dose.
These tools, show you that consciousness is a kid at heart in the form of a fractal dimension beyond the explanation of any language. It is only our experience, and misunderstanding of our experiences that changes the way we see this reality and then we become "adults", but yet still the same universal consciousness and for some, we forget the concepts of what its like being a kid and experience the fundamentals of consciousness, which is love and awareness. Our conscious awareness allows "us" the observer (aka nature) to render everything "you" see ... nothing in our world is persistent, it is you the observer which brings all matter into a physical form, but even then atoms are 99.999% empty space. This is why we sleep at night, because processing reality in the form that it is in, is a taxing process to bring all matter into existence for this infinite experience called "life" as a god. You are it.
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A 2015 study. Found that dmt may effectively treat R.S.E
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I think a better way to describe it in my personal experience, is that DMT doesn't so much let you see other worlds, but more like you lift a filter and see more than usual of what's always there. It's like you tuned your brain to a different visual channel. I asked a question about things that don't serve the person I want to be, hit it, and entered into an infinite tunnel, where all surrounding me was a stained glass mosaic of my memories. I watched some break, and others repair.
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I think it's worth noting Ayahuasca is not a cactus it is a brew of multiple plants which are all trees, shrubs, and vines. Peyote is the cactus used by natives.
I wish I'd never heard that almost everyone meets "beings" when they do DMT because I'd like to try it one day and I feel like I'm guaranteed to see them just because that's what everyone says I'll see. I won't know if they're "for real" or just something my brain conjured up because that's what it expected to see on this particular drug.
I appreciate it, but when I say "one day" I mean many years from now when I'm not working a job subject to so many drug tests and investigations.
@@Brave_SJ its just a scammer ignore the other comment. the thing you'll understand psychs when you do them in the future is that its easy to be skeptical that truth can be found in these "hallucinations." but you'll change your mind if you do them, you'll know what you've learned is real. regardless respect for putting research and time in first. these are not toys, exercise caution and care
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@@Brave_SJ when you do it some future day, try to seek out n,n-DMT for your first experience. It's generally a lot mellower (but still intense beyond words) experience than 5-MeO-DMT. Get cozy in bed, breathe and meditate for a bit to clear your mind to feel at peace and at ease before inhaling the vapor. It's a 10-15 minute trance, short but you'll not really comprehend time while you're under but you can rest easy knowing you're not gonna be committed to it for the entire day like you would LSD.
I had the most deliberate distinct and unmistakable being encounter and I had no idea meeting beings would come of the trip before the 1st time I tried it.
I was hoping he would address how multiple people in a room can take DMT and they would all see the same things
Don't think that's true unless they are communicating actively and getting sucked into someone else's delusion.
When you're dying you most likely release DMT or something very similar along with a bunch of other chemicals.
My 2 sense: This is most likely why people with near death experiences sometimes see a white light or some form of higher power. Looking into NDE stories you'll also see people sense darkness or have auditory hallucinations, it's clearly very different to smoking DMT but there are a lot of similarities.
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I don't see anything clearly very different to smoking DMT, because I haven't. Eye Dew Sea ugh Ram@tickle Heir or.....I deduce thee clearly induced thy known self too sensed by being too near life's expenses: tune ear, lie, fuss, sex, pier "E", "N" says, such that the only obvious escape route, the singularly unique way out, to trust your instinct and ignore your doubt, step back forward in time to now note not any new nightly knots nascent, nor any nice nieces, naysayers or dry ice hydrants firing smoke or ether, either, although I know if I might have tried both it would be even MORE clearly very different FROM smoking, k? Despite their similarities, they're so military there's "Ohm" ill, at aeries (although there an aerie is known as a place to be alone, here an aerie is nary a place to be alone, at all: they're our Air Force's off-base drinking place's nickname; ask a vet or a veterinarian, they'll say the same), therein defer into thaw whirled.
Thanks, now I know I never want DMT. Death ain't fun 😕. I had my fun with acid, mescaline and shrooms in the 90s. I am middle aged, I don't need a bad trip. 😊
I choked on a huge lump of toffee when I was a child, I remember passing back and forth down my parents hallway as I went blue struggling for air.. my mum eventually came to relieve my airway and save me from dying.
Now I can’t describe the surge that I got while coming close to dying. But let me tell you… fast forward 20 or so years and having smoked DMT I can fully admit that when I was a child and was choking my brain definitely released DMT and I fully felt what I did when I smoked DMT.
I can’t explain it but it’s powerful stuff.
I'll just share that I have always has EXTREMELY vivid dreams/night terrors since I was very young.
They used to be, "some of the most severe night terrors I've ever witnessed in a patient," as described by an MD in the field.
But as I got older, they just turned into these entire book-long dreams. I can wake up and write down 500 pages of unfolding narrative.
They always say that your brain is working to create and perceive/interpret at the same time during dreaming. But I've often found it curious that, while admittedly, yes, there are times when I KNOW I am making the dream up (there are obvious emotional triggers, etc), there are ALSO seemingly-clear instances where I would swear that I am having exchanges with some other entity who is relaying information that has been the farthest thing from my mind; information that I have been completely fixated on due to its foreign nature, as if I am studying this still picture of strangeness.
The question then is, "Why is my brain making up things that I am looking at clearly, but not identifying with in any way?" It's JUST LIKE when you are listening to someone elucidate some foreign concept and your brow is furrowed, focused on pure examination.
The second odd aspect is that these dreams seem more "real" than real llfe. It feels like I just went somewhere else and I was awake there and I am more asleep/unaware as I sit here and describe this right now.
I'm guessing It has got to be that different areas of the brain are fracturing and talking to each other in different ways than normal.
But it is tantilizing to imagine that there might be OTHER implications...
I've tried both 5-meo-DMT, and DMT. They aren't the least bit recreational.
> Something as simple as gravity.
Every physicist listening: Yeaaahh... as simple as gravity. *eyetwitch*
[For reference, gravity is the only fundamental force that we don't have any clue how it might function but also we can't even describe properly at all scales of interactions.]
I think he means as intuitive as gravity, and is choosing his words poorly (imo).
That's the point he was making, dude. It's incredibly complex to the point of being almost magical, but we observe it in very mundane terms: You drop something, it falls.
Ayahuasca is a vine that grows in the Amazon. Not a cactus
its a combination of a vine and a leaf
“Encountering other beings” and “entering a different world” is the only way to explain it. But using those words automatically romanticizes it.
I try to rationalize it and this is my absolute best understanding so far for the entities
They seem to always tell you something about yourself. Like they are you. It’s like you are talking to yourself from inside out. Dmt to me seems to be a mirror to look more directly into my inner unconscious world. Becoming more aware of this has helped me understand the trips MUCH faster and easier.
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It seems to open up your mind to be able to perceive higher dimensional shapes. If you were to go look at a computer simulation of what a mathematical 4D square would look like in a 3D or 2D space, it is oddly reminiscent to what its like to perceive the shapes and “entities” on a trip. And often times you can’t bring the whole experience back in your memory very well. More like still images. It is yourself talking to yourself from above almost. That “entity” can see parts of you in which you cannot see. I also think it’s outside of time too, there’s been people (me included) who have seen something in a trip and then it appears in a different way in real life later. Like a synchronicity. I think those “entities” are always there and around us but we don’t have the capacity to perceive them. And they are guides who speak to us via intuition and ideas and synchronicities. But again, the word “entity” is romantic but there’s many other ways to say the same thing without using that word. Doing a deep dive on the word “synchronicity” also points to the exact same thing that I’m trying to represent here but from a different angle. That entity exists in a dimension with more axis than what we are familiar with. 3D has 3 axis. 4D has 4 axis which enables it to collapse inward and expand outward again. Like it can pass through itself. It is you but the part that exists in that higher dimension. Not higher in the sense that it’s above us in direction but it’s actually around and through us. It is inside and outside of you at the same time. It can see you and your life A lot like how we can see the whole picture of something on a piece of paper. Say you draw a line down the middle of the paper and two circles, one on both sides. The circles wouldn’t be able to see each other because there is a line between them. But if we could communicate with the circles, we could tell the circles there’s another circle on the other side. That’s a very primitive example but yeah
It’s like you’re able to perceive your own energy body, the soul, or psyche and it manifests itself to you to show you something that may be holding you back or to make you more aware of your own energy in dealing with other people. Or it can show you your fears as well.. not knowing what that actually means is what makes it scary when that happens. However, many people will say the entities seem to be something else. Like not attached to you at all. But I think it is themselves but they just have not made that connection yet.
Carl Jung psychology and psychedelics go hand in hand
However, entering a different world with DMT in my experience, it’s like the other world itself is conscious. And it reacts to your presence, from my experience. It’s even harder to bring some of that back in your memory.
Also I have encountered “entities” with mushrooms as well but that takes a bit of practice and learning how to work with the experience while you’re in it. With DMT, it’s almost forced on you.
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I wish I had the capacity to articulate my thoughts, words and understanding as well as you. I think you did a phenomenal job at explaining the experience.
This is the kind of answer what i was looking for.
There is too much mystification going on with psychedelics, where extrapolation from a yet unknown experience leads to high level of confidence in believing dogmas created by the self reinforcement effect of the drug.
Instead of giving a description, or creating the necessary formal system for the description of the experience, the individual tends to keep whatever conclusion he/she derived from the experience, and isolates its beliefs in the mystics that the current form of widely used languages are incapable of describing them.
This kind of behaviour can be observed in cases of less extreme experiences as well, where the confortable feeling of 'you' do not need to be worried anymore, has way higher priority to you than approaching truth.
The resulted confidence, and mysticality comes from not being able to falsify or verify the conclusions proposed, because mostly the conclusions states that logic itself is a belief, and so it cannot be comprehended.
It looks like that having too much information about yourself, disables your original ability to see what is important, and instead replaces the goals you originally had with your current state, while also clearing any doubt about it.
You mistake ayahuasca and peyotl, the latter is a cactus. Ayahuasca is a mix of couple of plants, and the one originally called ayahuasca contains MAO inhibitors, not DMT. But the term ayahuasca refers to all psychoactive drinks made with that vine, and it just happens that the most popular mixture also contains leafs containing DMT, so in the west in became synonymous.
One day I will find DMT local to me. Can’t trust all these online insta sellers, all scammers 😢
Not all please...
Don't generalize it.
We still have good ones in the field
I was once scammed by mycocenter... Over $1,200.
I learnt my lesson and still got a vendor on instagram... Am relaxed to order my products from him and get them delivered. So scout for a good vendor. I wish you the best of luck.
Don't mind this ones there are scammers.
@FrederickVanholbeck bro stop scamming it’s boring.
I found some, tried it and holy fxck it was unreal lma