I bought this unit in June of 2022 without the added battery you have. I have a 22 ft motorhome and I boondocked a few times in August and was really glad I had it, if only to make a cup of coffee in the morning and run a small fan. I just realized that I think I can pull my 30 amp cord up into my rig through the opening where my silver ware drawer is and plug it in the unit so I don't have to take the unit out of the rig. At least that's what I'm thinking. 62 lbs is pretty hefty for this 60 something woman. I'm surprised I was able to do it. Also I think I might be able to run the solar panel cords down and out the same way. We'll see. I'll be eager to see how long it takes to deplete the unit running the entire rig. I also got it for my home in case of any black outs they are planning in the upcoming future. The bluetti dolly works great carting it around at home. I enjoy your videos Ray, I've learned alot.
I've been reading the reviews for the Bluetti AC200MAX on Amazon and a couple reviewers mentioned that the screen went blank on them also. In addition, several mentioned that the RV socket was wired backwards on their MAX, others said they had no problem with it. I've been looking at buying a set while they have a sale going on, but I haven't yet. The slow AC charging situation would be a negative for me also.
I have the AC200Max and two B230 batteries. No issues. I use the phone app as well. I ran my apartment air conditioner for 7 1/2 hours to deplete down to 2%. I used 600 watts of solar and charged it to 34% in about five hours. That was all three units. This guy doesn’t know what he is doing. You can use 900W of solar, plus the AC Brick and charge this unit in about 3 hours, that’s 6144W in 3 hours. Plus I can use the extra batteries independently because they come with their own plug-in ports for car , USB and 120. They can also be charged by themselves or with the main unit. He should be using his generator and another source or the charge enhancer brick For solar, another 500W. I chose this unit for a reason. Not too heavy for my bad back and replaced hips. Very good price and expandable. I plan on finishing the solar charge at my friends ranch while working on my 68’ Cougar. The best power is free power.
Thank you so much for your input/review. It really helps me to decide which one to put my money on as I m tossing between few brands. Bluetti so far stands out for me to sum it all up and would suit my lifestyle.
I was leaning towards a unit like this vs setup built into the RV but I think for the cost I would rather have the integrated inverter/solar/battery with a small gas generator for backup. Thanks you helped make up my mind.
I'm really torn on which unit to buy! I'm considering a smaller unit from Bluetti like the EB3A or the EB70S... but this is also a possibility that I'm considering. If it was just for boondocking, I'd just go with a smaller unit... just want to be able to run a few items that require 110v But I'm also considering a bigger unit for possible emergency situations! Ughhh decisions!! It's a lot of money to spend to get the AC200MAX plus the amount of panels needed to power it... if I get a smaller unit, I don't need to buy more panels... I can just use what I already have!
My number one preferred generator is my Honda eu2200i and I use my Bluetti ac200p To store the energy from my generator for much longer run time. The number one thing I dislike about my Bluetti is it will discharge power whether anything is hooked up to it or not once it’s turned on
I tried turning the box power off overnight, and the capacity read 68% 16 hours later it still read 68%. I turned on the AC output and let it run for 20 hours with nothing plugged in and the battery capacity decreased from 67% to 57% 10% decline, so about 200 watt hours. That would be about 16 amp hours if using a 12 volt battery so it's inverter is comparable to other quality inverters on the market as far as idle current goes. Cheers, Ray
This is my issue as well. The inverter in the AC200p has a huge idle draw. I find mine loses about 2% per hour as long as the AC is turned on, even with nothing else plugged into the unit.
@@LoveYourRV This is EXACTLY what I was looking for, you are the absolute best channel for these products by far. My AC200p loses about 2% per hour while the inverter is turned on, if the Max only loses 0.5% per hour as you're suggesting I'm selling the 200p and getting the max immediately.
I bought a C 200 max and I have had nothing but problems with it holding a charge. De charged it all the way and charged it back up and still had problems with it holding a charge.
Could be a manufacture flaw as I'd heard that from another person and tested mine and it held a charge fine. Here was my test results: I tried turning the box power off overnight, and the capacity read 68% 16 hours later it still read 68%. I turned on the AC output and let it run for 20 hours with nothing plugged in and the battery capacity decreased from 67% to 57% 10% decline, so about 200 watt hours. That would be about 16 amp hours if using a 12 volt battery so it's inverter is comparable to other quality inverters on the market as far as idle current goes. Cheers, Ray
As far as the slow recharge. 2 ac chargers would be great for about 1000 watts recharge. Of 2 hours when running your generator. That should be enough right? That's pretty fast. Great video thanks for showing!
Not bad at 1000W, but they make you buy an extra charger. The EcoFlow Delta MAX competitor does 1800 watts with a built-in charger. Recharge in just over 1 hour. No external power bricks and wires. Just one cord. You can also set exactly the wattage you want to match the max generator wattage. Much more refined, in my opinion. Here is my test video clip - ruclips.net/video/_Aq2nguvaaY/видео.html Cheers, Ray
Hey Ray, love your video’s. Currently doing my own tests on my channel. The AC200 will be my main source of battery power for our motorhome (plus an on board 4000 Onan) coupled with solar and hopefully a DC to DC charger
They used to have a much better technical service department customer service department response. I’m having a problem with my 200 P and get four days between responses back-and-forth. Now four weeks plus still not resolved. No ability to leave a voicemail message anymore even though they say to the boxes are full. Not sure what’s going on at the company level.
Bluetti never said that if you have the expansion battery packs connected, and you discharge this whole system to zero, it will turn off the expansion packs.
That's for pointing that out, another commenter did too. I never had the occasion to run everything to zero, so I never picked up on the fault. Maybe they will be able to fix it via a firmware update. Cheers, Ray
Pretty well any panel wattage will put charging amps into the AC200Max but since the battery capacity is large it would be advisable to have at least 400W to recharge during the day
Hello how can you get the big black cable that connect the generator and the other battery? I haven't got it with my ac200max and now that I want to expand it with the b230 batterie I wanna know if ill get it with it or not... Thanks
Here is the B230 manual. It says the the cable is include as a standard accessory. See page 3 for whats n the box. cdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0536/3390/8911/files/B230_User_Manual.pdf?v=1631707828
Hi, I have a Bluetti 200 max & the lead from the 200max to the solar panel leads has a female plug for the positive & on the leads from the solar panels, the negative lead hs the male plug so I'm putting positive to negative. Is that the right way or will I blow the 200max up, please help.
Are you using a Bluetti solar panel? If so it should match up fine. If not you many want to use a multimeter to confirm the polarity so that positive voltage goes to the positive input.
Looking to purchase the AC 200 Max just had a question I cannot find it on the website if you have the expansion battery and the main units is plugged into solar does it charge the main unit and the expansion battery. And would you purchase the Eco Flo delta pro over the 200 max I mainly do the same thing that you were doing as far as camping goes that's what the main purpose will be using it for with a little home back up if necessary . Love to three part series videos keep up the good work
Yes, but here is a video I recently posted about a Bluetti solar charge bug when the units both run down to 0% ruclips.net/video/s4KUGUQu50s/видео.html and here is my opinion on the EcoFlow Delta MAX ruclips.net/video/QhGEugiSDO0/видео.html Cheers! Ray
Just watched both those videos very informative thank you so much I appreciate it looks like I’m leaning towards the ecoflow Delta Pro I need that 30 amp plug but the AC 300 does look nice the only thing that questions me about the ecoflow Delta Pro is the fact that I read that if you have any expansion batteries and the main unit goes down the expansion batteries are useless which is kind of a bummer because on the bluetti expansion batteries they still work without the main unit
@@Jjsaba2008 Yes, that is true, but the Bluetti expansion packs are limited to a couple USB and a 10A DC output, no AC outlets, so not sure how useful it might be. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0536/3390/8911/files/2_16a14cac-5c28-45e5-8378-79420cf68a5a.jpg?v=1656732310&width=2560
Thank you for all advice I totally appreciate it definitely leaning towards the eco-Delta flow I heard the customer service was great that’s kind of a good thing , too as far as if anything ever goes wrong.
No, since they were wired in series the panel voltage was adding together making less amperage in the wiring so not much loss. At one point I tested it with 75 feet of 12 gauge wire, 1000 watts of panels wired in series for about 100Vs and was able to pull nearly 900 watts. So having the high 145V max solar input voltage is handy for long wiring runs.
@@LoveYourRV Sweet! Big help! Thanks! I ordered 2x the new 350W Panels to go with my AC200MAX - How long are the cables on the panels? What is the max length you would recommend?
Not very long maybe 6 feet of panel wire + maybe 6 feet of power station solar wire. You can see a picture I took here of the panels with the AC200P I test before www.loveyourrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Bluetti-AC200P-power-station.jpg You can buy extension cables though, any MC4 solar extension cables will work. I usually use about 30 feet 12 gauge unless I'm way far in the trees and need to extend. 30 feet is enough to get the panels far enough away for my trailer out in the sun when I have the Bluetti box in my basement storage in the middle of the trailer. The less length the better. For longer runs you may have to increase the wire thickness to lower the power losses in the wire.
Great review. I have the ac200 p and it's done fairly well. On that max unit with the expansion battery. Does the solar, charge both the unit itself and the expansion battery together, equally and at the same rate?
I've observed solar will charge both at relatively the same rate, but not exactly, often they are a few percentage points different. I guess as the control circuits feed current back and forth between the two battery packs.
The biggest upgrade over the 200p (my current unit) is that the MPPT controller can now run off a single solar panel and doesn't require 3 in series. That's a lot better for portability, general camping etc. It can also take 900 watts of solar in through the MPPT vs 700 on the AC200p.
Currently, I prefer Bluetti as far as hardware and features go, but Lion Energy has better support as a USA company based in Utah with phone numbers to call. Bluetti is via email to China. btw, I hear Lion Energy will have a new model out with improvements soon, so hope they come up with a winner.
A question for you, can you connect a dc to dc charger to the solar port or the brick port on the AC200? Thinking if anybody would know it’s you. Thanks Rob
It may not work right if it's a charger since it will look for a battery and have its own charging algorithm. Basically, via the solar port, you are feeding it into an MPPT charge controller. So a charger charging a charger scenario. I'm not sure what would happen. May work well or may end up being inefficient. A better option likely would be a DC-DC converter that outputs a fixed DC voltage to match the max DC voltage the Bluetti input port is rated for.
If I read the manual correctly these things have a 2 kWh battery but only put out 2048 I think the battery has a lot more power but you can only use so much
They hold 10% of the battery capacity in reserve and the inverter is only about 90% efficient. So when using the AC outputs usable power capacity runs about 1.6 kWh in my tests
We Used to call it valve bounce…… Always wondered why high-performance V8’s would not use a gear drive to open and shut the valves like they do with Ducati motorbikes Desmotronic system i think its called…..
Low/slow AC is a real negative. Out here in the PNW, you deal with lower sun angle and a ton of giant trees. And with just a couple hours of generator run time allowed at most camp grounds, you want to push as much juice into your system as fast as possible. I find it to be a bit of a dirty lie of solar system manufactures that tout these systems based on living in the Arizona dessert in perfect solar conditions. But that's marketing for you.
That's precisely why we rely on channels like this one I think lol. I live in Southern Ontario and have a similar issue, that's why I tend to over-panel heavily to make sure the unit can recharge decently fast. I like the option of being able to use two AC charging bricks at once, but it's insane that they charge $220 for the second charger.
The AC200MAX seems to ship with either of 2 AC chargers. One puts out 411W, and the other newer one with a fan puts out about 470W. So, given some losses on the wiring and circuits, the full recharge time for the 2048Wh battery is in the 5 - 6 hour range. If you buy the optional second www.bluettipower.ca/products/ac200p-adapter500w-xt90-cable and input it into where the solar normally goes, you can halve that time. Compare that to the EcoFlow fully adjustable up to1800W AC charging ruclips.net/video/_Aq2nguvaaY/видео.html Cheers, Ray
Actually I have the same set up and what I don't like is if I use it over night or say use the batteries fully in the morning when it's getting solar I have to literally power on the spare battery or solar will only charge the main unit is there a setting I am missing ?
Have you contacted Bluetti support and ask about this? Would be interesting to hear what the reply was if any. I'm going to test my boxes and see if its still the case since I have one that is new. So I run them both down to empty then try and charge them? And you're saying the expansion box won't charge unless I reboot it's power. Is that correct?
Yeah it looks like a super great product it’s just so expensive it would literally be like 1/5 1/6 of my yearly income just to get the unit I wish they would come down in price so that every day man could afford one
Unfortunately, I don't see them getting much cheaper with the world wide inflation happening now and increase demand for lithium batteries from the electric car market. :(
I don't find it has any greater efficiency that say the EcoFlow Delta Max which charges way faster and has a higher wattage inverter but the battery chemistry LiFePO4 is safer and much longer lasting than NMC. I'd say that is the biggest pro for this Bluetti. Cheers, Ray
It was really wet out, with lots of rain and fog, but on the other hand, the unit does have a pair of fans that run often if the unit gets hot or is charging at or pulling some higher wattage load so quite a bit of air gets moved through. So the case is not that sealed up and a little bit of warmth in the box from things running would work like leaving a light bulb on in a shed or boat to keep condensation away.
@@LoveYourRV fans will only blow the air as it is .If it is humid air it will not dry anything out .I have the same unit and it doesn't like water .So far I haven't had any issues with the display .I use the app anyway .You would think however ,when designing a unit like this and marketing it as a camping accessory, they would have made the electrics more waterproof .😂
It won't dry out stuff but the air flow will help prevent condensation from happening by reducing stagnant air. People living in RVs during the cold, damp winters often use little fans to circulate air around furniture, walls and mattresses, etc. with good success.
Seems like they rush things to market then fix the bugs as they go. If I was buying, like other things, I'd be inclined to wait a bit after the initial release.
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I bought this unit in June of 2022 without the added battery you have. I have a 22 ft motorhome and I boondocked a few times in August and was really glad I had it, if only to make a cup of coffee in the morning and run a small fan. I just realized that I think I can pull my 30 amp cord up into my rig through the opening where my silver ware drawer is and plug it in the unit so I don't have to take the unit out of the rig. At least that's what I'm thinking. 62 lbs is pretty hefty for this 60 something woman. I'm surprised I was able to do it. Also I think I might be able to run the solar panel cords down and out the same way. We'll see. I'll be eager to see how long it takes to deplete the unit running the entire rig. I also got it for my home in case of any black outs they are planning in the upcoming future. The bluetti dolly works great carting it around at home. I enjoy your videos Ray, I've learned alot.
Rally like my unit so far. Thanks for all the great info Ray. Safe travels.
I've been reading the reviews for the Bluetti AC200MAX on Amazon and a couple reviewers mentioned that the screen went blank on them also. In addition, several mentioned that the RV socket was wired backwards on their MAX, others said they had no problem with it. I've been looking at buying a set while they have a sale going on, but I haven't yet. The slow AC charging situation would be a negative for me also.
I have the AC200Max and two B230 batteries. No issues. I use the phone app as well. I ran my apartment air conditioner for 7 1/2 hours to deplete down to 2%. I used 600 watts of solar and charged it to 34% in about five hours. That was all three units. This guy doesn’t know what he is doing. You can use 900W of solar, plus the AC Brick and charge this unit in about 3 hours, that’s 6144W in 3 hours. Plus I can use the extra batteries independently because they come with their own plug-in ports for car , USB and 120. They can also be charged by themselves or with the main unit.
He should be using his generator and another source or the charge enhancer brick For solar, another 500W.
I chose this unit for a reason. Not too heavy for my bad back and replaced hips. Very good price and expandable. I plan on finishing the solar charge at my friends ranch while working on my 68’ Cougar.
The best power is free power.
@@kimwarfield1587 Are you still liking the unit kim any problems ?
Thank you so much for your input/review. It really helps me to decide which one to put my money on as I m tossing between few brands. Bluetti so far stands out for me to sum it all up and would suit my lifestyle.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Ray, another detail unbiased review!
I was leaning towards a unit like this vs setup built into the RV but I think for the cost I would rather have the integrated inverter/solar/battery with a small gas generator for backup. Thanks you helped make up my mind.
That will work👍
You can plug the second AC charger into the expansion battery.
I'm really torn on which unit to buy! I'm considering a smaller unit from Bluetti like the EB3A or the EB70S... but this is also a possibility that I'm considering. If it was just for boondocking, I'd just go with a smaller unit... just want to be able to run a few items that require 110v
But I'm also considering a bigger unit for possible emergency situations! Ughhh decisions!!
It's a lot of money to spend to get the AC200MAX plus the amount of panels needed to power it... if I get a smaller unit, I don't need to buy more panels... I can just use what I already have!
Thanks Ray - Another great review!
My number one preferred generator is my Honda eu2200i and I use my Bluetti ac200p To store the energy from my generator for much longer run time. The number one thing I dislike about my Bluetti is it will discharge power whether anything is hooked up to it or not once it’s turned on
I tried turning the box power off overnight, and the capacity read 68% 16 hours later it still read 68%.
I turned on the AC output and let it run for 20 hours with nothing plugged in and the battery capacity decreased from 67% to 57% 10% decline, so about 200 watt hours. That would be about 16 amp hours if using a 12 volt battery so it's inverter is comparable to other quality inverters on the market as far as idle current goes. Cheers, Ray
This is my issue as well. The inverter in the AC200p has a huge idle draw. I find mine loses about 2% per hour as long as the AC is turned on, even with nothing else plugged into the unit.
@@LoveYourRV This is EXACTLY what I was looking for, you are the absolute best channel for these products by far. My AC200p loses about 2% per hour while the inverter is turned on, if the Max only loses 0.5% per hour as you're suggesting I'm selling the 200p and getting the max immediately.
I bought a C 200 max and I have had nothing but problems with it holding a charge. De charged it all the way and charged it back up and still had problems with it holding a charge.
Could be a manufacture flaw as I'd heard that from another person and tested mine and it held a charge fine. Here was my test results:
I tried turning the box power off overnight, and the capacity read 68% 16 hours later it still read 68%.
I turned on the AC output and let it run for 20 hours with nothing plugged in and the battery capacity decreased from 67% to 57% 10% decline, so about 200 watt hours. That would be about 16 amp hours if using a 12 volt battery so it's inverter is comparable to other quality inverters on the market as far as idle current goes. Cheers, Ray
As far as the slow recharge. 2 ac chargers would be great for about 1000 watts recharge. Of 2 hours when running your generator. That should be enough right? That's pretty fast. Great video thanks for showing!
Not bad at 1000W, but they make you buy an extra charger. The EcoFlow Delta MAX competitor does 1800 watts with a built-in charger. Recharge in just over 1 hour. No external power bricks and wires. Just one cord. You can also set exactly the wattage you want to match the max generator wattage. Much more refined, in my opinion. Here is my test video clip - ruclips.net/video/_Aq2nguvaaY/видео.html Cheers, Ray
Hey Ray, love your video’s. Currently doing my own tests on my channel. The AC200 will be my main source of battery power for our motorhome (plus an on board 4000 Onan) coupled with solar and hopefully a DC to DC charger
They used to have a much better technical service department customer service department response. I’m having a problem with my 200 P and get four days between responses back-and-forth. Now four weeks plus still not resolved. No ability to leave a voicemail message anymore even though they say to the boxes are full. Not sure what’s going on at the company level.
My guess would be China's zero Covid policy that leads to factory, city and office shutdowns.
It’s the best thing I have ever bought meet over your self bro 👍
Good info Ray 👍
I don't know. I'm starting to think that the Delta Max or the Delta Pro might be a better option.
I think the new jackery 2000 pro is the better unit.
Bluetti never said that if you have the expansion battery packs connected, and you discharge this whole system to zero, it will turn off the expansion packs.
That's for pointing that out, another commenter did too. I never had the occasion to run everything to zero, so I never picked up on the fault. Maybe they will be able to fix it via a firmware update. Cheers, Ray
What is the min of watts to charge the ac max by solar energy
Pretty well any panel wattage will put charging amps into the AC200Max but since the battery capacity is large it would be advisable to have at least 400W to recharge during the day
Hello how can you get the big black cable that connect the generator and the other battery? I haven't got it with my ac200max and now that I want to expand it with the b230 batterie I wanna know if ill get it with it or not... Thanks
Here is the B230 manual. It says the the cable is include as a standard accessory. See page 3 for whats n the box. cdn.shopifycdn.net/s/files/1/0536/3390/8911/files/B230_User_Manual.pdf?v=1631707828
Hi, I have a Bluetti 200 max & the lead from the 200max to the solar panel leads has a female plug for the positive & on the leads from the solar panels, the negative lead hs the male plug so I'm putting positive to negative. Is that the right way or will I blow the 200max up, please help.
Are you using a Bluetti solar panel? If so it should match up fine. If not you many want to use a multimeter to confirm the polarity so that positive voltage goes to the positive input.
Looking to purchase the AC 200 Max just had a question I cannot find it on the website if you have the expansion battery and the main units is plugged into solar does it charge the main unit and the expansion battery. And would you purchase the Eco Flo delta pro over the 200 max I mainly do the same thing that you were doing as far as camping goes that's what the main purpose will be using it for with a little home back up if necessary . Love to three part series videos keep up the good work
Yes, but here is a video I recently posted about a Bluetti solar charge bug when the units both run down to 0% ruclips.net/video/s4KUGUQu50s/видео.html and here is my opinion on the EcoFlow Delta MAX ruclips.net/video/QhGEugiSDO0/видео.html Cheers! Ray
Just watched both those videos very informative thank you so much I appreciate it looks like I’m leaning towards the ecoflow Delta Pro I need that 30 amp plug but the AC 300 does look nice the only thing that questions me about the ecoflow Delta Pro is the fact that I read that if you have any expansion batteries and the main unit goes down the expansion batteries are useless which is kind of a bummer because on the bluetti expansion batteries they still work without the main unit
@@Jjsaba2008 Yes, that is true, but the Bluetti expansion packs are limited to a couple USB and a 10A DC output, no AC outlets, so not sure how useful it might be. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0536/3390/8911/files/2_16a14cac-5c28-45e5-8378-79420cf68a5a.jpg?v=1656732310&width=2560
Thank you for all advice I totally appreciate it definitely leaning towards the eco-Delta flow I heard the customer service was great that’s kind of a good thing , too as far as if anything ever goes wrong.
My concern is why doesn’t the charging fan shut off after the Bluetti is charged full?
Must be a glitch on the control software is my guess.
Did you notice any issues with the solar panel cable length?
No, since they were wired in series the panel voltage was adding together making less amperage in the wiring so not much loss. At one point I tested it with 75 feet of 12 gauge wire, 1000 watts of panels wired in series for about 100Vs and was able to pull nearly 900 watts. So having the high 145V max solar input voltage is handy for long wiring runs.
@@LoveYourRV Sweet! Big help! Thanks! I ordered 2x the new 350W Panels to go with my AC200MAX - How long are the cables on the panels? What is the max length you would recommend?
Not very long maybe 6 feet of panel wire + maybe 6 feet of power station solar wire. You can see a picture I took here of the panels with the AC200P I test before www.loveyourrv.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Bluetti-AC200P-power-station.jpg You can buy extension cables though, any MC4 solar extension cables will work. I usually use about 30 feet 12 gauge unless I'm way far in the trees and need to extend. 30 feet is enough to get the panels far enough away for my trailer out in the sun when I have the Bluetti box in my basement storage in the middle of the trailer. The less length the better. For longer runs you may have to increase the wire thickness to lower the power losses in the wire.
@@LoveYourRV Big Help again! Thank you very much. You saved me lots of time! Will keep you updated once I got everything running next summer!
Great review. I have the ac200 p and it's done fairly well. On that max unit with the expansion battery. Does the solar, charge both the unit itself and the expansion battery together, equally and at the same rate?
I've observed solar will charge both at relatively the same rate, but not exactly, often they are a few percentage points different. I guess as the control circuits feed current back and forth between the two battery packs.
The biggest upgrade over the 200p (my current unit) is that the MPPT controller can now run off a single solar panel and doesn't require 3 in series. That's a lot better for portability, general camping etc. It can also take 900 watts of solar in through the MPPT vs 700 on the AC200p.
Bluetti vs lion energy?
Currently, I prefer Bluetti as far as hardware and features go, but Lion Energy has better support as a USA company based in Utah with phone numbers to call. Bluetti is via email to China. btw, I hear Lion Energy will have a new model out with improvements soon, so hope they come up with a winner.
A question for you, can you connect a dc to dc charger to the solar port or the brick port on the AC200? Thinking if anybody would know it’s you. Thanks Rob
It may not work right if it's a charger since it will look for a battery and have its own charging algorithm. Basically, via the solar port, you are feeding it into an MPPT charge controller. So a charger charging a charger scenario. I'm not sure what would happen. May work well or may end up being inefficient. A better option likely would be a DC-DC converter that outputs a fixed DC voltage to match the max DC voltage the Bluetti input port is rated for.
@@LoveYourRV Thanks Ray
Thank you
If I read the manual correctly these things have a 2 kWh battery but only put out 2048 I think the battery has a lot more power but you can only use so much
They hold 10% of the battery capacity in reserve and the inverter is only about 90% efficient. So when using the AC outputs usable power capacity runs about 1.6 kWh in my tests
We Used to call it valve bounce……
Always wondered why high-performance V8’s would not use a gear drive to open and shut the valves
like they do with Ducati motorbikes Desmotronic system i think its called…..
Low/slow AC is a real negative. Out here in the PNW, you deal with lower sun angle and a ton of giant trees. And with just a couple hours of generator run time allowed at most camp grounds, you want to push as much juice into your system as fast as possible. I find it to be a bit of a dirty lie of solar system manufactures that tout these systems based on living in the Arizona dessert in perfect solar conditions. But that's marketing for you.
That's precisely why we rely on channels like this one I think lol. I live in Southern Ontario and have a similar issue, that's why I tend to over-panel heavily to make sure the unit can recharge decently fast. I like the option of being able to use two AC charging bricks at once, but it's insane that they charge $220 for the second charger.
Exactly how slow is the AC recharge? I use a generator also and was about to purchase this, but now I will wait for your response. Thank you.
The AC200MAX seems to ship with either of 2 AC chargers. One puts out 411W, and the other newer one with a fan puts out about 470W. So, given some losses on the wiring and circuits, the full recharge time for the 2048Wh battery is in the 5 - 6 hour range. If you buy the optional second www.bluettipower.ca/products/ac200p-adapter500w-xt90-cable and input it into where the solar normally goes, you can halve that time. Compare that to the EcoFlow fully adjustable up to1800W AC charging ruclips.net/video/_Aq2nguvaaY/видео.html Cheers, Ray
Actually I have the same set up and what I don't like is if I use it over night or say use the batteries fully in the morning when it's getting solar I have to literally power on the spare battery or solar will only charge the main unit is there a setting I am missing ?
Interesting, I never tested for that. Maybe their is a firmware update fix.
Found this video from Bluetti Support. It's older but what he says doesn't bod well for a fix ruclips.net/video/rrsTPKOmXl8/видео.html
Well then that's pretty effin stupid isn't it
Have you contacted Bluetti support and ask about this? Would be interesting to hear what the reply was if any. I'm going to test my boxes and see if its still the case since I have one that is new. So I run them both down to empty then try and charge them? And you're saying the expansion box won't charge unless I reboot it's power. Is that correct?
That was UPS?!? Looks more like the FedEx special treatment...
Yes, UPS
We were always taught wet and electricity don't work lol much better in Arizona
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Yeah it looks like a super great product it’s just so expensive it would literally be like 1/5 1/6 of my yearly income just to get the unit I wish they would come down in price so that every day man could afford one
Unfortunately, I don't see them getting much cheaper with the world wide inflation happening now and increase demand for lithium batteries from the electric car market. :(
I have this unit. Yeah, slow re-charge but high efficiency. You lose some,/get some.
I don't find it has any greater efficiency that say the EcoFlow Delta Max which charges way faster and has a higher wattage inverter but the battery chemistry LiFePO4 is safer and much longer lasting than NMC. I'd say that is the biggest pro for this Bluetti. Cheers, Ray
probably condensation inside
It was really wet out, with lots of rain and fog, but on the other hand, the unit does have a pair of fans that run often if the unit gets hot or is charging at or pulling some higher wattage load so quite a bit of air gets moved through. So the case is not that sealed up and a little bit of warmth in the box from things running would work like leaving a light bulb on in a shed or boat to keep condensation away.
@@LoveYourRV fans will only blow the air as it is .If it is humid air it will not dry anything out .I have the same unit and it doesn't like water .So far I haven't had any issues with the display .I use the app anyway .You would think however ,when designing a unit like this and marketing it as a camping accessory, they would have made the electrics more waterproof .😂
It won't dry out stuff but the air flow will help prevent condensation from happening by reducing stagnant air. People living in RVs during the cold, damp winters often use little fans to circulate air around furniture, walls and mattresses, etc. with good success.
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I actually some some pretty bad reviews about the AC200MAX ranging from the BMS up to tje display. I think Bluetti missed a lot on this.
Seems like they rush things to market then fix the bugs as they go. If I was buying, like other things, I'd be inclined to wait a bit after the initial release.
Buy a different gas generator
Why? my gas generator works fine.