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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

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  • @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc
    @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc Месяц назад +7

    To buy a counterfeit guitar, one is saying they only care about appearance, not sound or quality.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +3

      You said the quiet part out loud, some people certainly won’t like that but I appreciate and agree with you.

    • @kenjikodai
      @kenjikodai Месяц назад

      you're right lol and I never really got the appeal of buying counterfeit
      I'd rather buy unbranded guitars in the appearance of what I wanted and slap nice pickups on em
      wouldn't that make it a more personal guitar to you instead of just some counterfeit?

  • @ldfox11
    @ldfox11 Месяц назад +13

    I cannot remember the content creator, but I remember what he did to all his Chipson's. He made a branding iron of the word "Fake". He used it to burn the word fake on the back of every headstock on each of those guitars. He wanted to make sure that if they were stolen, sold, or given away after his death, no one would be taken advantage of.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      He still knowingly bought garbage counterfeits, doesn't exactly sing of an ethical dude.

    • @ldfox11
      @ldfox11 Месяц назад +4

      @@AudiomoMusic His show was basically to show you that it was wrong to buy them and pass them on as real. Then he braided them and gave them to school music programs after fixing the issues. I think his name was "China Skeptic" or something like that. He was trying to educate people not to buy them. He said to buy copies with legit names on the headstock, like Harley Benton. He passed away from a terrible disease, he's no longer with us.

    • @WaitingForTheHook
      @WaitingForTheHook Месяц назад +1

      Actually if someone stole my guitar, i'd want them to think it was a real Gibson haha

    • @derekclacton
      @derekclacton Месяц назад +3

      Sounds like CGS - ‘China Guitar Sceptic’ Mike Milton, R.I.P. He also did a lot to promote small specialist builders in 🇬🇧

    • @USTTRM
      @USTTRM Месяц назад

      Agreed. Bottom line is it’s a bad idea.

  • @S.Lang7
    @S.Lang7 Месяц назад +21

    Pretty sure these were going to be a Craigslist special for Christmas.
    Listed as a private owner need to sell asap to pay “medical bills”
    Or another thing I saw last year, a non existing guitar store is closing and everything 50-70% off.
    I am glad this shipment was caught, a lot of people would have been scammed out of their money.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +5

      Some people are just awful man.

    • @danthedem
      @danthedem Месяц назад +1

      I've seen some on Craigslist. At least they're now listing them as copies.

  • @donbishop6994
    @donbishop6994 Месяц назад +11

    Well said Jim. Buy and play what you want, but don't buy a counterfeit anything. It's a lose lose for the entire community. Brand doesn't matter all that much anymore, there's a price point for everyone.

  • @MiguelMakesMusic
    @MiguelMakesMusic Месяц назад +8

    completely agree Jim, people who buy chibsons are so weird. just buy an epiphone, firefly, etc. so many great options in that price range. the fact that some people NEED to have a name on a headstock no matter what are dummies.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +3

      Some people only care about their image not the quality or integrity of product and will go to any length to get it. Imagine if there were counterfeit BMW or Mercedes available, Los Angeles would be FULL of them hahahaha

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Месяц назад

      @@AudiomoMusic
      There are counterfeit cars just like there are counterfeits of any thing else that has any kind of value.
      The thing about cars though is if you are going to “counterfeit” a car it really only works if it’s a really expensive car you’re copying. It’s not really worth the effort and expense to copy just a run of the mill mainstream BMW or Mercedes because you can buy real used ones that are fairly new for less than it would cost to make a copy.

  • @truescotsman4103
    @truescotsman4103 Месяц назад +5

    Somewhere along the way in the past few years it became cool to buy dirt cheap chibsons and demo them. I can't stand trash counterfeit guitars. You get what you pay for. FAFO.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      whole thing never made sense to me. even in the 70's with the lawsuit guitars from Japan that were actually really well made ( better than Gibson US were at the time and miles clear of these chibsons ), the Japanese brands never stamped the guitars made in the USA or tried selling them AS gibsons.

  • @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc
    @GerarddeSouza-yt3fc Месяц назад +2

    I agree with you. A copy is one thing, lying about the brand names and manufacture country is what makes it a counterfeit. To those who have bought a counterfeit without removing the fake logo have screwed up the secondary market. It’s not long before sellers even unknowingly sell a fake as genuine.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад

      Sadly many seller buy them specifically to sell them as genuine to begin with on craigslist or marketplace.

  • @cynthia6389
    @cynthia6389 Месяц назад +1

    Why now? This has been going on for years. Somebodys payoff must not have come through

  • @csharp57
    @csharp57 Месяц назад +3

    Chibsons really hurt the used market. I’d rather max out a credit card on a brand new than go on to reverb and buy a used Gibson. The extra money I spend is knowing this Gibson is 100%. And if sell mine one day I have documentation where my Gibson came from. I’ve spent so much of my kids college money on instruments, I want them to sell them with joy and pocket all the money. lol

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      I've known of two cases where someone passed away leaving guitars for family that ended up being worthless because well you guessed it - they were fakes. Really sad stuff all around.

  • @HauntedGuitarMan
    @HauntedGuitarMan Месяц назад +6

    Cool. One thing also about the Chibsons. If believe guitar max did lead test on some of his cheap guitars. All were good except the chibsons. They had lead in the frets. So there’s that to.

    • @flapjack413
      @flapjack413 Месяц назад +2

      Even the pickup mounting rings tested positive! Probably due to whatever cheap pigments were used to color the plastic. They use the absolute bottom of the barrel cheapest parts available on these things, since they don't have to pass any real quality control/safety standards.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +3

      Yeah, I forgot to mention that good shout. Not only are people willingly buying counterfeit garbage they are buying counterfeit garbage that will poison them.

  • @dw7704
    @dw7704 Месяц назад

    Some people treat copies as counterfeits, but they aren’t.
    I have a Les Paul copy that is not as good as a real Gibson, but after some mods is very good, but it doesn’t have Gibson on the headstock.
    It came as a stencil type brand, with a name on a sticker that has since fallen off.
    If I ever put a new one on it,it would not be an actual exiting brand, but a made-up one.

  • @LPro-mg1zp
    @LPro-mg1zp Месяц назад +3

    I have to agree with you, Gibson has to go after fake products to protect their brand and in this case their customers as well.
    We have many playable guitars starting from $150 .

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      Exactly, this has greater ripple effects than just Gibson the brand.

  • @macbruce7562
    @macbruce7562 Месяц назад +3

    I highly recommend that people who are looking to buy a counterfeit guitar purchase a high end Chinese made guitar kit. You can customize the guitars wood selection and get some upgrades like a maple neck with scarf joint, carbon fiber rods etc. They’ll come with the original style headstock and you can put your own logo on it, paint it and have it routed for your preferred hardware. Rather than cheap kits and counterfeits, the high end kits use heartwood rather than sapwood and the maple top will actually be a solid cap without a veneer.
    Some would say if the headstocks the same then it’s a knockoff, personally I think it becomes counterfeit the moment it says ‘made in USA’ and/or has the brand name. Tokai doesn’t make counterfeits, you buy one because you want a better factory made Les Paul.

    • @darineller6768
      @darineller6768 Месяц назад

      Open book headstock trademarked. Gibson logo. Can't copy that on a Les Paul shaped guitar.

  • @staggerleegoods5075
    @staggerleegoods5075 Месяц назад +3

    3 Chibsons China made in. AWFUL!!!! You have to put so much money into making it playable. I recommend a used Gibson Les Paul or Edwards Japan. These are far superior and just as good as Gibsons for a fraction of the price.

  • @gothampops
    @gothampops Месяц назад +9

    I wish I could be there to help destroy those guitars. 😂 Chibsons are just bad for all involved. I’ll never understand it.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +4

      We all know the reasons the two kinds of people who buy them do so. Both are awful.

  • @jamesmgreen15
    @jamesmgreen15 Месяц назад +2

    The trail of sad events caused by the evil process of getting counterfeit gear to market must also be appreciated. The marketplace listings/stories of people being ripped off this end do not tell the whole story...........

  • @debhart4302
    @debhart4302 Месяц назад +2

    I'm glad they seized these and they didn't go through. This crap needs to stop. Too many people get hurt by this, from the unknowing person, to the reseller that doesn't know, but most importantly Gibson USA employees that lose some work, etc.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      forget Gibson as a company, producing any sort of counterfeit product is flat out wrong. the people that knowingly buy these need to have a serious look in the mirror.

    • @debhart4302
      @debhart4302 Месяц назад

      @AudiomoMusic that too.

  • @jimdunlop1957
    @jimdunlop1957 Месяц назад +1

    I bought a white “Chibson”Firebird years ago…I knew what i was buying .., after multiple truss rod adjustments and 2 fret levelings and recrowning, i had a friend in the sign business cut me a vinyl “chibson” logo that adorns the truss rod cover …
    All 3 pickups and wiring were stripped out.. and one nice P-90 installed at the the bridge…
    My friends still get a chuckle out of it..
    but they agree it sounds pretty good now

  • @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk
    @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk Месяц назад +1

    Flood market to keep price down, but charge $6k each, to really keep buyers away.
    Maybe buy Chibsons with counterfeit dollars!

  • @Somenite
    @Somenite Месяц назад +1

    It's hype by customs to talk about the value of the guitars if they were real, they aren't. What they got is 3000 guitars that probably sold for about $250 to 300 each so less than a million dollars value total. Still great though to discourage the counterfeiting.
    As far as buying them goes, just get yourself a nice used Studio if you want a Gibson but don't have the cash. Used Studios can be found easily in the $700 - 1K range which is what the Chibson with the upgrades to make it playable will cost and you will have a better guitar. You can get some crazy unique Studio's if you take your time and wait for something special to show up. Over the years I've seen some extremely rare finishes show up priced low that would be every bit as good of conversation piece as a standard and sure to appreciate in value. I also saw a Studio on consignment at a local shop for $750 that had the most figured/flamed top I've ever seen on a Studio. It boggles my mind that someone would pay the same money for a fake with a veneer top when they can have something like that.

  • @MHChang2014
    @MHChang2014 Месяц назад +1

    When people buy Chibsons, I DO get it. But at the same time, plenty of manufacturers and brands make Gibson shaped instruments at a variety of price points.
    But also, why would you want to buy a fake from a no name factory stealing the brand of something that doesn't belong to them, compared to being proud enough to put your own name on the headstock. When people ask me about my Greco or my Maybach, I am more than happy to tell them all about it and more often than not, they're interested in looking up more about them in their own time

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      I don't get it, there is no excuse for it. It's feeding into and enabling the production of counterfeit products. Zero respect for anyone buying that trash.

  • @ochayethenoo15
    @ochayethenoo15 Месяц назад +1

    The people I feel for are the ones who don't realize it is a fake when the original 'Chibson" buyer resells it.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      yep, not everybody watches guitar youtube or knows much about guitar other than the fact gibsons and fenders are well known american brands. craigslist scammers prey on those people with these pieces of trash chibsons.

  • @JefferyHagen
    @JefferyHagen Месяц назад

    I spent 33 years in the forging industry and watched numerous jobs get shipped overseas, and it was American and Western manufacturers that shipped those jobs overseas and showed them how to do it. My grandfather was 79 when he died 32 years ago and he used to say about these older countries and cultures; they invented playing dirty. I genuinely feel bad for people on the receiving end of these counterfeits, but I have no sympathy for these American and Western companies.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад

      I don’t necessarily care about Gibson so much as I despise counterfeit trash and also feel bad for unknowing customers that fall for it because people with zero ethics have no problems creating and selling counterfeits

    • @JefferyHagen
      @JefferyHagen Месяц назад

      @ I agree about the customer getting ripped off, but these companies opened that door. The Genie is out of the bottle unfortunately. The Western auto makers are finding this out with China as we speak. As far as musical instruments are concerned I’d apprehensive about anything pat the $500 price point and wouldn’t trust anything labeled “ vintage.” As the saying goes, buyer beware and with the level of fraud going on these days it’s more true than ever.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      I don't care if it's Gibson or any other brand in any other industry, unethical pieces of garbage who produce counterfeits claiming they are something they are not and selling them with fake US serial numbers and illegitimate brand logos on them get zero pass for me on this one.
      I'm scared off vintage too for the most part, just never know. It'd have to be sold through one of the more respectable vintage specific stores but at that point the price would certainly would reflect their authentication abilities. Used vintage guitars from private sellers are things I'd never want anything to do with.

  • @dinonoce
    @dinonoce Месяц назад

    Gibson needs to do a better job of giving us consumers the tools to help determine if we are buying a fake on the used market. Their serial number lookup tools are terrible (at least from what I've seen). I'd like to see them do something like Fender does - you plug in your serial number and you get all the specs on the guitar.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      While I don't disagree, it's not Gibsons fault a country with zero ethics in relation to IP or copyright continues to produce straight up counterfeits and they sell them on shady as hell websites. Gibson cannot control that.

  • @checkyoursixgaming
    @checkyoursixgaming Месяц назад +1

    I personally prefer the Chinese guitars with their own branding. Firefly, Leo Jaymz, Westcreek, Fesley, and others. Those are the ones I buy and support.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад

      Yeah I have zero problems with any of them or any brand from anywhere for that matter that isn't just making straight up counterfeits.

  • @ldfox11
    @ldfox11 Месяц назад +1

    I like cheap guitars, but not that way. You are completely right. I see some people selling "fake" Gibson's, and I'm glad that they're honest. But I also see the ones selling so-called "real" Gibson's cheap because my Husband, Grandpa, Dad, Brother or Uncle died, and I can't stand looking at the guitar that reminds me of my loss, and I don't play.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      I don't respect, support, or endorse ANYONE buying a counterfeit guitar in any capacity. Nothing positive comes from them existing especially given all the alternatives we have available.

  • @Markleford
    @Markleford Месяц назад +1

    I was looking for the extra Pokemon in this video when I realized the irony -- the supposedly real "Gibson" in the background is actually a Ditto! 😸

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      Would have been the most expensive ditto in history haha

  • @scottdunn2178
    @scottdunn2178 Месяц назад

    Gibson could partially kill the demand for Chibsons by allowing Tokai, Greco, etc replica guitars into the states instead of the Japan only market...

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +4

      Japanese brands and Gibson settled out of court ages ago to allow Tokai, Greco, Crews, Momose etc to continue to build the guitars for Japan with the caveat that they don't offer them here in the US. Besides, it's extremely easy to get those Japanese brands to the USA, I've been importing them for well over a decade.
      Really though I don't think it would make a difference. People don't buy Chibsons for their quality, they are junk guitars made by questionable people available via questionable sites that have no problems selling counterfeit products well beyond guitar. The people who go out of their way to buy Chibsons want a Gibson logo on the headstock, otherwise they'd never think twice of buying that firewood.

    • @jamro217
      @jamro217 Месяц назад +1

      Gibson owns Epiphone. They are the authorized outlet for economy priced Les Pauls. A new Gibson Les Paul Standard costs at least $2000. The Epiphone is less than $700. If you want something cheaper, you don't get a new real Les Paul. Maybe a used one will be more affordable. There are some things in this life that we desire but can't afford. A Les Paul is one of them.

    • @scottdunn2178
      @scottdunn2178 Месяц назад +2

      @@AudiomoMusic The dude who buys a Chibson isn't concerned with the quality - they just want that "Gibson" logo on the headstock so they can fool the 10 drunk idiots at the local dive bar into thinking they're playing a real Gibson.

    • @scottdunn2178
      @scottdunn2178 Месяц назад +2

      @AudiomoMusic I'm talking about being able to order a Tokai, etc from Musicians Friend, etc instead of all the hassle and shipping costs to get them from Japan. Especially when nobody in their right mind thinks a Les Paul that says "Tokai" etc could ever be mistaken for, or passed off as a Gibson... open book headstock notwithstanding. It's the same with all the Fender stuff you can only get in Japan.

    • @jamro217
      @jamro217 Месяц назад +1

      @@scottdunn2178 I misunderstood. That is correct. A fake is a fake. An honest model bearing the name of the brand and/or manufacturer on the headstock is not a fake. A Les Paul style guitar is a model made similar to a Gibson without that moniker on the headstock. Only Epiphone and Orville can be considered legal Les Pauls. Ordering a Japanese brand here is fine, but they aren't the ones ripping people off. Tokai is a fairly well-known brand here. After the '70's lawsuit period most manufacturers play by the rules. Not these Chinese junk factories. All of the illegal firewood is coming out of there. Why don't they make their own models? The Finder CORONAbita, perhaps.

  • @andrewkrodel7976
    @andrewkrodel7976 Месяц назад +1

    Some people buy Chibsons and other people buy new guitars that have been reliced? They’re both fake in different ways. You can’t judge one without judging the other.😀

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      this is a truly awful take and I hate relics.

    • @andrewkrodel7976
      @andrewkrodel7976 Месяц назад

      @ I think the whole relicing thing started with blue jeans back in the 90’s? Honestly we should know what gets shipped in this country and place stiff penalties on countries who do not respect our laws. If a cargo ship has illegal guitars on board, seize everything on board the ship. This is probably what China would do to us.

    • @andrewkrodel7976
      @andrewkrodel7976 Месяц назад

      @@AudiomoMusic somebody in the US ordered these Chibsons. Gibson should go after these individuals to pay all of their lawyers instead of raising their prices and making their customers pay for their over staffed legal team.

  • @Earthwormjimm
    @Earthwormjimm Месяц назад

    Imagine you save up for a year or two for a dream guitar, find a deal on a used one on reverb, order it, play it for a month, and a friend points out it’s a fake from China and the reverb seller is gone forever.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад

      in that scenario they'd have a fighting chance at getting their money back from reverb. sadly these people know that and sell locally with typical sob stories to sucker people in

  • @des565
    @des565 Месяц назад +2

    Slash's Les Pauls were not real Gibsons but everybody seems to ignore that fact. Hypocracy!

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      I don’t give a damn about slash nor does that excuse what the country that does this on a grand scale and has done for well over a decade does. All of these counterfeit guitars belong in a dumpster.

  • @midirok
    @midirok Месяц назад

    I’ve thought about getting one to smash up on stage for a video or use it while surfing 🏄

  • @MetalCheeseDeathAttack
    @MetalCheeseDeathAttack Месяц назад

    I’ve never bought one, but considered it many times. The thing that makes them unappealing is the lower quality and need for upgrades. But money-wise, it’s cheaper than actual Gibsons. For me, I just like it when the guitar says Gibson on it and looks like the classic guitar. I know that’s shallow but idrc. I think that if you go in knowing and understanding what you’re buying, and that it’s not real, then whatever, buy what you want. To me, the only moral issue is if you try to resell it to someone and claim it’s real. But if it’s just for yourself cuz you like the look, it doesn’t matter.

    • @darineller6768
      @darineller6768 Месяц назад

      If you purchase a counterfeit guitar online it's still a crime. Not just a morals thing.

    • @Somenite
      @Somenite Месяц назад

      It's refreshing to see someone admit it's a vanity thing of getting the logo. It's also sad people rather pretend to have a Standard or Custom than just grab a legit used Studio for the same money the Chibson with upgrades to make it playable cost.

    • @MetalCheeseDeathAttack
      @MetalCheeseDeathAttack Месяц назад

      @@darineller6768 What is the specific law you're breaking? Never heard of anyone getting arrested for it.

    • @darineller6768
      @darineller6768 Месяц назад

      @@MetalCheeseDeathAttack (19 U.S.C. § 1526) and (18 U.S.C. § 2320)

    • @MetalCheeseDeathAttack
      @MetalCheeseDeathAttack Месяц назад

      @@darineller6768 Those laws are in regards to importing with the intent to sell. There doesn't seem to be any law against buying to own. Obviously if you try to resell a fake and pass it off as a real Gibson, you're a scumbag, but there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about buying one just to own yourself.
      If the guitar is seized it'll likely be destroyed by customs, but I don't think the buyer would get in trouble at all, unless they were involved in a business that was trying to sell it.

  • @mikeshaw4951
    @mikeshaw4951 Месяц назад

    Just curious .... If a Chinese guitar has a Gibson logo on the TRC it's a fraud. But I've heard that some guitars coming in include a second unprinted TRC or a removable decal of some sort over the Gibson logo. Is this still fraud against the manufacturer or is it collusion if the owner choses to display the Gibson logo? In addition, if a company chooses to reproduce a Gibson guitar to the n-th degree wouldn't that be a violation of Gibson's copyright? Or if Gibson didn't copyright their guitars design back in the 50's or whenever which I believe is the case, wouldn't Gibson be SOL as far as any infringement issues?

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      To your first question - it's still fraud because the guitars have "Made in the USA" and fake US serial numbers on the back.
      To the second question - The only point of reference we have for this is the court settlement between Gibson and the Japanese makers. Basically, an agreement was reached within all parties that should a Japanese manufacturer use the open book headstock regardless of logo it is only available to be sold domestically in Japan and not in the United States. ESP have also changed their Eclipse models from being traditional 4 knobs to 3 knobs for their eclipse models available in the United States but that's more of a grey area. All of this was because Gibson didn't do a great job of initially protecting their IP in the first place. Luckily for them, Japan actually respects the law so they are at least dodging the bullet of having really high quality guitars that are far better value than most US Gibsons are available here... which is more than we can say for the place making the straight up counterfeits.

    • @darineller6768
      @darineller6768 Месяц назад

      Let me guess, " just asking for a friend"? Haha! Busted.

    • @mikeshaw4951
      @mikeshaw4951 Месяц назад

      @@darineller6768 No. Double busted!

  • @BuckieBoy-l2r
    @BuckieBoy-l2r Месяц назад

    Meanwhile eBay does nothing about sellers selling these fakes .

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      i wouldn't ever buy pickups or a guitar from ebay OR amazon, they do not care about counterfeits.

    • @darineller6768
      @darineller6768 Месяц назад +1

      No they don't care. I contacted them about a counterfeit Gibson for sale in the US on their website. They said it didn't violate their policies.

  • @j.schaefer5622
    @j.schaefer5622 Месяц назад

    Maybe people are buying chibsons to sell them with profit? For me its like a fake watch. Maybe other people think your watch/ guitar is real but you always know its a cheap fake product. I dont want something like this.
    There are really good Tokais, LTDs, Grecos out there, why buy a fake product?

  • @carpathus
    @carpathus Месяц назад

    If you can't tell the difference, what does that say about the quality of Gibson guitars? I'm glad they caught this batch-those unscrupulous individuals trying to deceive and steal from guitar players. My affordable LP copy, mostly hand-made by highly skilled Korean luthiers, isn't a counterfeit; the name and headstock are clearly different. It's essentially a luthier-built, Korean-made version of an LP Standard that cost just a tenth of a Gibson's price. The unfortunate truth is that it's as good as any real LP Standard I've played pickups not withstanding. Maybe I've only come across poorly-made Gibsons, but the reality is what it is. Cheers!"

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +2

      It’s not so much about people that are so into guitar they watch RUclips or keep up with things, I’m talking about the average non guitarist that is potentially buying something for a family member locally or for themselves that would have no idea what a good or bad guitar is regardless of the headstock.

    • @carpathus
      @carpathus Месяц назад

      @@AudiomoMusic Good point!

  • @ngoma
    @ngoma Месяц назад +3

    I hear they were Trump decal guitars!

  • @jamro217
    @jamro217 Месяц назад +2

    Good. Gibson is the brand that produced the original version of the Les Paul guitar series with the input and consent of Les himself. The only other companies authorized to replicate that model are Epiphone and Orville, both subsidiaries of Gibson. Putting someone else's name on the headstock of your own product is akin to identity theft. Not only do you claim to be them, but any activity that is detrimental to them is your fault. If you wish to produce a similar product out of respect for the design, fine. There are plenty of Les Paul styled guitars that are easily identified as such. They don't claim to be Gibsons. Even Heritage guitars restyled their instruments despite arguably being more authentically Gibson than the ones made under new management that moved out of the Parsons Street factory decades ago. If you want an authorized Les Paul made in China, buy an Epiphone. The Traditional Pro IV is a great instrument. Lightweight, nice color choices, an option to upgrade the pickups, coil taps on both pickups. Inexpensive. Legal. No reason to buy fake junk built by crooks then whining when you get screwed.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +4

      thank you for being completely sensible, makes me feel a bit more sane to be extremely against these counterfeit junk guitars.

    • @jamro217
      @jamro217 Месяц назад +2

      @@AudiomoMusic Thank you for the great video. You only get what you pay for. Paying $200 for a Les Paul made in Nashville is unrealistic. Labor costs, utilities, materials, overburdensome regulations... Getting one made from an overseas factory sanctioned and paid for by a subsidiary of Gibson is perhaps not as good as having one produced domestically if only for the transportation. You have to ship each guitar halfway around the world. Lots of bumps and chances for damage. No wonder GC has so many new guitars in need of a set up. Even if the Chibsons were made in the Epiphone factory, would the QC be as good as an Epiphone? Highly unlikely it'd leave the factory with a seal of approval with another company's name on the headstock. There is only one reason to buy a knockoff instead of a legal import. The finish. Tangerine metallic purple burst? I don't recall even the wildest Gibson models offering some of the color schemes. Firewood is still firewood and crooks are still crooks, so I'll pass. Have a great night.

  • @rlm2112
    @rlm2112 Месяц назад

    Is this video from the future? Tuesday November 26th is two days from now 😂

  • @ectoplasm
    @ectoplasm Месяц назад +1

    If they're good guitars, then I don't really care if they're fake or not and destroying them seems like a massive waste of time, money, and resources, as well as materials. I mean, it's not like we're currently in an era of massive waste or anything.

    • @brncrw
      @brncrw Месяц назад +2

      Problem is the seller is deceiving the buyer. These fakes get passed around, multiple people being ripped off from the original seller and from resale. Just brand them as something that isn't Gibson.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Месяц назад +1

      ⁠@@brncrw
      Furthermore, anyone who doesn’t really “care if it’s fake or not” is part of the problem. I can’t comprehend how there are still people who think that way.
      It’s basically the same thing as stealing someone’s identity. Would these people “not really care” if someone opened credit cards or got loans with their personal information or the personal information of a relative?

  • @pauliej4105
    @pauliej4105 Месяц назад

    I went Chibson to get the Zakk Wylde rebel flag model. Funny they made the guitar in Fender scale length. Take care!

  • @adilsonobelard9690
    @adilsonobelard9690 Месяц назад +1

    The only reason I have plenty of Gibson is because of my Chibson nobody get fool with Chibon

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад

      So you bought a counterfeit sweatshop guitar that gave you the confidence to buy a legitimate one?

  • @Gene_Cali
    @Gene_Cali Месяц назад +1

    What brand of car do most drive? Most have Chinese components. Just buy what you like, what makes you happy. Russian vodka, Cuban cigars, German cameras, Japanese guitars.
    Gibson is the Harley Davidson of electric guitars. Thanks Jim.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +4

      It has nothing to do with components, it has everything to do with selling a 100% counterfeit pretending it is a brand it is not and made in a country is not. There are countless Chinese made guitar brands out there I at least respect for putting their own brands name on the headstock and label them as guitars made in China. I have zero respect for Chibsons or the people that buy that trash.

  • @zombienoob410
    @zombienoob410 Месяц назад

    Big win for Gibson, cant wait to see what happens Tuesday! The reason I think people still buy them is because over 1000 for a Chinese guitar feels insane, 8 years ago the most expensive Epi (other than texans and limited runs) were the LP custom at 980 cad and a standard was 790, even back then that felt a little steep but it was reasonable. Now an Epi standard is 1000 cad and a custom is 1149, right now they're on sale for the old prices at L&M, and I've heard Epis don't move like they used to unless they go on sale. At that price you might as well buy a used Gibson lp studio from the 2000's. You can also contact the factory and select the wood you want, and how you want it built like a one piece neck and long tendon. You can get a totally custom spec guitar at the price of cost thats built by the same people who build Epis, without any of the Gibson tax, or paying the builders for their hard work... I think the people who die on the Chibson hill are the same people who buy fake LV bags and nike shoes, they don't care about the ethics they just wanna look rich to flex on people. It's lame to buy fakes, but you do get a lot more options and control over how it looks, they will build anything you want, something Gibson wont do even if you had all the money in the world. So to a point I understand why someone would do it but it's still lame. Just buy used if you need to have the name and shape.

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic Месяц назад +3

    Well, knowing drumpf, this is probably the lot of guitars he was going to sell with his name on them. Now the website will have to say something like, "Your guitar may or may not actually exist and may never arrive," like with the watches. *edit: I laughed really hard when you said, "If you're someone who doesn't want to support Gibson, why on Earth would you buy a product that says Gibson," I barked and laughed until I had to sit down. I don't know anyone who likes Chibsons for that reason, but they're out there lol

    • @matsumoku1
      @matsumoku1 Месяц назад +4

      Get help for your TDS.

    • @CraigFlowersMusic
      @CraigFlowersMusic Месяц назад +2

      @@matsumoku1 Good point. You've changed my mind. You're so smart.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +1

      I’m failing to see the correlation between sweatshop counterfeit Gibsons and Donald Trump. I try to avoid politics like the plague on this channel but this is a wild takeaway.

    • @tomasodriziola
      @tomasodriziola Месяц назад +1

      @@CraigFlowersMusic matsumoku1 is right. This video has absolutely nothing to do with Donald Trump but you find a way to make it about him, this is exactly what TDS is. You will have a happier life when you start thinking for yourself and stop seeing evil orange man everywhere in places where he is not.

    • @CraigFlowersMusic
      @CraigFlowersMusic Месяц назад +1

      @@AudiomoMusic Look at the photos. The acoustics are low res, which is fishy enough, but look at the electric. It's not a real Les Paul. It has a BOLT ON NECK! The cutaway is all kinds of wrong. These will be $11,200 humbucking Melodymakers LOL Mark my words! Andy the Guitar Geek asked them what country they’re made in, and they replied with a legalese non answer. In other words, not American. That was on today’s week in gear episode on his channell, go see for yourself how sketchy it all is as usual. So it may have been half joke, but it’s already looking like it was half right. Everything with his name on it is a lie. That is not hyperbole.

  • @LIKEFUNK
    @LIKEFUNK Месяц назад +1

    Yeah they should be stopped, but you made the awful mistake of then saying Hardly Bentsome are great cheap alternatives....end of report!

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +3

      Compared to a POS lead filled chibson they are custom shop quality guitars

    • @LIKEFUNK
      @LIKEFUNK Месяц назад

      @@AudiomoMusic In your dreams, they are also produced throughout Asia in sweat shops...how can anyone sleep at night knowing they are supporting the CCP's war machine is all.

    • @AudiomoMusic
      @AudiomoMusic  Месяц назад +4

      I don’t own a single Harley Benton guitar but the single cuts I had from them weren’t built in China- they were Indonesian so if you’re going to spout garbage at least know what you’re talking about

    • @LIKEFUNK
      @LIKEFUNK Месяц назад

      @@AudiomoMusic I already mentioned across Asia but always CCP controlled.