Could a Green be appointed Premier of Tasmania?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- In response to a viewer request, this video addresses how governments are formed in Tasmania - where the rules are a little different to those in other States. What are the principles and conventions that the Governor must apply? How is the benefit of incumbency affected by s 8B of the Tasmanian Constitution. Could the leader of a minor party, with fewer seats in the House of Assembly than either major party, still be appointed Premier? For the answers - watch the video!
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Thank you so much for answering my question! This was really interesting, and I'm very happy that you've expelled from my mind some misconceptions I had about how things work.
You are very welcome.
The Victorian example sounds so crazy you have to do a full video on this.
Yes - I will at some stage. There's lots of extraordinary stuff there.
Another great video!
Thanks!
You just got a two headed sub 😂 I'll show this to some of my mates and hopefully they'll learn a bit about how our system works.
has a premier or ministry in Australia ever been a member of the upper house? like david Cameron right now in the UK?
Thank you for the informative video!
In Australia, it’s quite common if you’re talking about ministries. Penny Wong is the foreign minister and a senator. Katie Gallagher is a Senator and the minister of finance
@@ferddoesweirdthingsinlife1040 Thats interesting seems very diffrent from the other anglosphere parilemntry systems expect india where the FM is also a member of the upper house.
@@cesargodoy2920 Australian upper houses are elected, so there's not the concern about democratic accountability that may exist with bodies like the House of Lords or the Canadian Senate. We've even had a senator become prime minister, albeit briefly before contesting a seat in the lower house.
thank you.that makes sense
I see that others have already correctly answered this one. The more interesting question is whether a Prime Minister or Premier can sit in the upper House. Historically - yes. By convention, it doesn't happen anymore, but there is the odd example (sometimes a transitional one - like John Gorton who was a Senator when he became Prime Minister but then moved to the House of Representatives).
I’m proud of Labor for sticking to their promises and not trying to work with the Greens again. That party is poison.
they will never rule again. if labor dont work with the left wing then what are they? libALP are a duopoly like colesworth dont vote for them ever
@@johney3734Nonsense. The reason Labor has been out of power for a decade is because voters do not want to risk giving the Greens any power again. Voters remember what the Greens have been like every time they have been put in that position. Labor having the resolve to not form government at this election is exactly what they needed to do to prove to voters that they will not work with the Greens.
@@thebristolbruiser hahaha no mate the only ppl that say that are liberal voters that are never going to vote labor anyway. myself, my wife, my mum. we all start as labor voters then we see that labor dont care about workers!!! they are pigs at the trough!!! guzzling down mining donations as fast as there engorged little faces can swallow!!! greens keep getting more and more popular and labor keep losing ppl every election.. labor will be the miner party that greens team up with in 20 years bro.if they are lucky so dont be rude
@@johney3734You believe the Greens are getting more popular? In 2024 they received 13.89% of the primary vote. In 2021 they received 12.38%. In 2018 they received 10.30%. In 2014 they received 13.83%. And in 2010 they received 21.61%. So are they getting more popular? Not really. They haven’t come close to recovering to pre-2010 levels. Coincidentally 2010 was followed by the disastrous Labor/Green coalition years under Bartlett and Giddings. Labor received 29% of the primary vote in 2024 compared to 49.27 in 2006, before they were tainted by the Greens. So I think your assertions are totally unfounded. The truth is that many people in Tasmania, especially in Lyons and Braddon, are sceptical of Labor due to their previous association with the Greens, which has caused the drop off in Labor support since 2010.
If we’re going to use personal experience, then I can say that in my dealings with people I have found that many individual Labor politicians are quite popular, but there is a general distrust of the party as a whole. I know many forestry workers, hydro workers, miners, fisherman, and other primary industry workers who were economically devastated by Labor working with the Greens, especially as it occurred shortly after a global economic recession. If Labor has proven that they have the moral fibre to resist forming government with the Greens then I believe they can win back many disillusioned voters at the next election.