@@M2Mil7er exactly what I was going to say. One of my favorites is the SFT from Catalinbread, because it’s a drive that cleans a little when the dinamics is low, but compresses a lot with a little more expressive volume. You can control just by your fingers emulating this old synths. Other tip is use a expression pedal in some models like moogerfooger filter to expand the controls. Behaves like a knob on a minimoog for instance.
That's interesting, I've got the opposite issue. I'm an analog synth boi and the main reason I want to get a bass is because of the dynamics. You can do a lot of crazy shit on synth but one of the hardest things to do is get anywhere close to the kind of physical interactivity of a bass or guitar.
@@TayTayMakesBeats Slides, bends, muting, use of different parts of the pick (or different parts of your fingers or thumb), being more passive or more aggressive - all of these things (and more) can create some great dynamics when playing bass. I also use a volume pedal for swells and for killing the attack, and I use an expression pedal for EQ sweeps.
@@TayTayMakesBeats That's exactly why you should play the bass. The idea isn't to literally sound like a synth, you just wanna add syth to your bass, not become a machine, that defeats the purpose, as you are saying. You've got it right, I don't personally think compression has anything to do with it
Mr. Allison. Been waiting for the next podcast. I have to say you are one of the best podcast hosts/interviewers I have ever listened to. Your questions are poignant and the dynamic between yourself and Scott is palpable. Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your content.
another tip : run an octave pedal before the fuzz, max out the low frequencies. If you turn the gain up and use a noise gate, you can get squared synth tones
"Glitching" the octaver with a clipped(fuzzy/distorted/crunchy...etc) signal can sometimes add its own kinda chorus/hammond effect in the high frequencies. Very cool stuff.
Yea that’s what this brotha said too. Octave then fuzz. No right or wrong but without a doubt there’s a good amount of low-end loss if/when placing fuzz before an octave in the chain.
@@The_Copper_Element_ItselfIt is a recent phenomen that people have started to consider a bass guitar to not be a guitar. Tons of older bassists will refer to their instrument as a guitar.
Totally get that! The mute can be a bit of an adjustment, but it helps achieve that distinctive tone in certain styles of playing. It's all about finding what works best for your own sound and comfort. 🎵🎸👍
All you need is a Ring mod and octave. EVERY. SINGLE. " synth" pedal on the market, including most " 8 bit" type units are fundamentally based on these 2 effects.
I have a zoom b1xfour that has a synth preset and it includes all 4 of these things but in a different order. So I might just swap them around and see what happens. 😂
I'm looking for something to use with a digital piano with piano and Rhodes sounds to get a funky vibe going. I understand reverb and delay are the most basic things but I can't seem to understand the difference between all pedals. Your envelope filter made everything sound interesting. What do you recommend I get around $250 ?
Ian, Oh Master of the Octave pedal! Where should we be putting our Octave pedal in the signal chain!? This short would suggest that it came first, but I have my Octave Pedal after my fuzz! ...could experiment I guess ;)
They have a different video on bass synth sounds that shows that the signal chain is octaver, fuzz/distortion, envelope filter (optional), chorus in that order. I have heard others say that they put the fuzz in front of the octaver instead, might be worth checking out. Putting a compressor before all that seems to be pretty common, too
What about a compressor? To sound like a synth - especially an older synth - squash the dynamics with compression.
fuzz or distortion essentially compresses the signal by clipping the wave form. Same as you can drive a compressor to distort the signal.
@@M2Mil7er exactly what I was going to say. One of my favorites is the SFT from Catalinbread, because it’s a drive that cleans a little when the dinamics is low, but compresses a lot with a little more expressive volume. You can control just by your fingers emulating this old synths. Other tip is use a expression pedal in some models like moogerfooger filter to expand the controls. Behaves like a knob on a minimoog for instance.
That's interesting, I've got the opposite issue. I'm an analog synth boi and the main reason I want to get a bass is because of the dynamics. You can do a lot of crazy shit on synth but one of the hardest things to do is get anywhere close to the kind of physical interactivity of a bass or guitar.
@@TayTayMakesBeats Slides, bends, muting, use of different parts of the pick (or different parts of your fingers or thumb), being more passive or more aggressive - all of these things (and more) can create some great dynamics when playing bass.
I also use a volume pedal for swells and for killing the attack, and I use an expression pedal for EQ sweeps.
@@TayTayMakesBeats That's exactly why you should play the bass. The idea isn't to literally sound like a synth, you just wanna add syth to your bass, not become a machine, that defeats the purpose, as you are saying. You've got it right, I don't personally think compression has anything to do with it
Octave is essential. So is the envelope filter. If you use a mod pedal keep the rate slow. Fuzz is always cool when used minimally.
Thanks
@@mihailmilev9909 I forgot I wrote this. 👍🏼
Yes-I like the Octapussy - fuzz and octave pedal from Catalinbread.
Mr. Allison. Been waiting for the next podcast. I have to say you are one of the best podcast hosts/interviewers I have ever listened to. Your questions are poignant and the dynamic between yourself and Scott is palpable. Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your content.
another tip : run an octave pedal before the fuzz, max out the low frequencies. If you turn the gain up and use a noise gate, you can get squared synth tones
I love it! Thank you, Ian!
You have no idea how much I've been searching for a video like this. Thank you, Ian
if you haven't already, check out his video "10 greatest synth bass lines through history (and how to get the sounds)
Well congrats lol
@@stephenshoihet2590oh thanks!
Damn that envelope really really hits hard doesn't it?
Hell yeah I was thinking the same thing, gooey as fuck. Like not just the aeiou but with the sometimes Y too
Shades of Minimoog! The chorus is the magic. The envelope filter makes it sound like a late 70s Stevie Wonder cover band. (grin)
What I love is that you described my pedalboard with 100% accuracy, and I didn’t even watch this video when I built my board! Outstanding!
Great choices, chorus was big time for bringing synths to life
Where do you generally set the rate and depth for synth bass tones?
great for playing Funkadelic- knee deep ! Pure fun !
The modulation sounded like the intro to "We The People" - Tribe Called Quest 🖤
Thanks for the tip. Those tones sounded great!
Chorus kills everything
Oh wow!! That final sound i would mistake for a synth!!
Idk why but that first riff(idk if this is the right word, I just woke up in the middle of the night) sounds like staying alive
Guitars that look like that always have the best sound.
I perfer to octave my fuzz over fuzz my octave
"Glitching" the octaver with a clipped(fuzzy/distorted/crunchy...etc) signal can sometimes add its own kinda chorus/hammond effect in the high frequencies.
Very cool stuff.
Always experiment.
Yea that’s what this brotha said too. Octave then fuzz. No right or wrong but without a doubt there’s a good amount of low-end loss if/when placing fuzz before an octave in the chain.
So i took this advice and holy crap it is fun. I used a phaser and it was sweet
Got it already 😆 thanks love it
I just love that bass, regardless to the sound.
INCREDIBLE!
Thank you Ian!
This is the coolest thing I’ve seen all day
God what a beautiful guitar that is
Yes My Brother I Said The Same Thang! And Dat Stank Made It More Beautiful Bro,SHEEEET!
You just made all bassists, including me, cry and get convulsions on the floor
@@The_Copper_Element_ItselfIt is a recent phenomen that people have started to consider a bass guitar to not be a guitar. Tons of older bassists will refer to their instrument as a guitar.
When you hit the chorus pedal...i was hearing
"Strange Dreams"
By Frank Marino
Love that envelope filter! This is awesome 👌
Funky you say? Why, yes yes I do!
Dank as hell.
That sounds cool
Thank you for your knowledge
God damn this is sick!
Sounded badass before the chorus🎸💯
🧡🧡🧡
Great sounds
That is a beautiful bass 😍🎸
Great tone !
That envelope filter might help me get close to the Bootsy sound.
Greaaaat
I'm sure Cliff Burton and Jason Newsted would agree;)
Which fuzz and envelope filter are you using here? Sounds fantastic!!
3Leaf Doom2 and the Tron Up in the HX Stomp
That metal plate over the strings would drive me crazy.
Totally get that! The mute can be a bit of an adjustment, but it helps achieve that distinctive tone in certain styles of playing. It's all about finding what works best for your own sound and comfort. 🎵🎸👍
FINALLLYYYY!!!!
A HX Stomp preset of this example would be interesting
Holy fuck…. THANK YOU!
That's freaking cool!
Gotta love the bass face
We have Scott at home
Scott at home:
Scott at home sure knows a lot though
That envelope filter 🔥
Great
Bravo!
The electro harmonix bass microsynth pedal does almost all of this in a single unit. No chorus though.
🔥🔥🔥😭
Sounds like the "lets groove" bassline
I used an octavator, chorus (heavy), a swell and distortion tto create a sound like a klaxton or a dark shimmering horn blast.
Sounds like i should just turn all my pedals on 😆
Stinky tone❤
Basically how to Thundercat
Boss makes a synthesizer pedal
Hell yea
I got a early 90's danelectro collecting dust
Mind...blown...
zoom multistomp ftw
Love it
Never knew any of this.
Wanna hear some good synth presets from HX stomp, people!
EHX Microsynth will do most of this stuff if you're after an all-in-one solution
Or a syb-5
I think Hawkwind used something like this in the original recording of The Watcher
I feel kinda fly
Standing next to you
This sounds better than a synth
Wow thanks dude! 👊🏻
@@devinebass ye I've never been into the synth sound anyway but this sounds good I look forward to hearing songs you create with your sound
Thundercat: Write that down, WRITE THST DOWN!
No offense to Scott but I'm a big Ian fan
I have an rc 1 synthesizer pedal 😊
All you need is a Ring mod and octave.
EVERY.
SINGLE.
" synth" pedal on the market, including most " 8 bit" type units are fundamentally based on these 2 effects.
Mom I want Scott's bass lessons
We have Scott's bass lessons at home
Scott's bass lessons at home:
I'd love to hear that but with SLAP
I have a zoom b1xfour that has a synth preset and it includes all 4 of these things but in a different order. So I might just swap them around and see what happens. 😂
Wooooow
sub-harmonic generator fx pedal
That's crazy
this is 2011 les claypool sound
I'm looking for something to use with a digital piano with piano and Rhodes sounds to get a funky vibe going. I understand reverb and delay are the most basic things but I can't seem to understand the difference between all pedals. Your envelope filter made everything sound interesting. What do you recommend I get around $250 ?
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🧡🧡🧡
Don't have all of that, yet.
Love that old ASS bass 🔊
Love old worn classic basses
THAY can go threw a pounding and stay in tune 😂
I literally have that sound on my vox bass effects Pedal board and I play a five string so I don’t need an octave pedal🤦🏾♂️
Audio to MIDI converter. Do that.
Yo, I have that bass, Electra or fender right?
Ian, Oh Master of the Octave pedal! Where should we be putting our Octave pedal in the signal chain!?
This short would suggest that it came first, but I have my Octave Pedal after my fuzz!
...could experiment I guess ;)
They have a different video on bass synth sounds that shows that the signal chain is octaver, fuzz/distortion, envelope filter (optional), chorus in that order. I have heard others say that they put the fuzz in front of the octaver instead, might be worth checking out. Putting a compressor before all that seems to be pretty common, too
Or just buy the Source Audio C4.
Or a synth pedal
Which brand pedals are you using right here wow
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Is that flatwound on jazz bass? sound awesome man
What's the metal piece over your strings for?
Wait, plug in, or plugin))))
For what is usefull a jazz bass over pbass?
What's that cover over his strings?
Micro POG or MXR Vintage ?????
I have a palm rest on my bass too. Why did you put yours there tho?