How The 17th Hole At TPC Sawgrass Was Made l The Hole At l Golf Digest

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 9 мар 2024
  • Welcome to 'THE Hole At', where Golf Digest's Ron Whitten (the leading expert in golf course course architecture) breaks down the hidden histories behind the most famous holes in golf. In this episode, Ron dives into the famous Par-3 17th hole at The Players Stadium Course at TPC Sawgrass. From its original waterless blueprint design, to the creation of its nerve-racking forced carry tee shot, to remaining one of the most daunting Par-3s you can play, Ron explores the fascinating history behind one of the game's most iconic golf holes.
    Host: Ron Whitten
    Producer & Editor: Ben Walton
    Cinematography: Ben Walton & Will Fullerton
    Audio: Mike Kelly
    Executive Producer: Christian Iooss
    Still haven't subscribed to Golf Digest on RUclips? ►► bit.ly/golfdigestyoutubesub
    Want even more GD? Subscribe to the magazine ►► glfdig.st/mFqM50OXuv4
  • СпортСпорт

Комментарии • 63

  • @TCRBrad
    @TCRBrad 3 месяца назад +48

    We need MUCH more of Ron. He's a great writer, speaker, and historian of our great game.

  • @dontcarestudios9393
    @dontcarestudios9393 3 месяца назад +47

    Ron Whitten is the best in the architecture golf game, the storytelling, voice, and base of knowledge is unparalleled in the community.

  • @AdamRules420
    @AdamRules420 2 месяца назад +4

    I just watched an 11 minute video about a golf hole. This dude deserves every penny he earns. I could listen to him tell stories for days

  • @ZachYoungBlood
    @ZachYoungBlood 3 месяца назад +43

    love this series

  • @robertott9925
    @robertott9925 3 месяца назад +8

    These are the best, need more Ron talking courses....

  • @vimy
    @vimy 3 месяца назад +12

    Excellent video. Love the quality of your course architecture and hole by hole videos.

  • @x1sirius
    @x1sirius 3 месяца назад +3

    i'm glad you shouted out Couer D'Alenes green. one of north idahos gems

  • @nsp51frio
    @nsp51frio 3 месяца назад +1

    Got a chance to play tpc sawgrass as a teen. That course and that hole is still one of my most beloved experiences I’ve ever had. Kudos to these guys that designed it and the guys that maintain it

  • @dwaynekoblitz6032
    @dwaynekoblitz6032 3 месяца назад +3

    Fantastic. Thank you so very much for this. I knew a lot of it, just not all. I can only imagine what we're not seeing? Sawgrass TPC Is absolutely special. Like is mentioned. It's mental. I have hardly missed a single shot in 20 years. Talk about crack?!

  • @Thugshaker_thequaker
    @Thugshaker_thequaker 2 месяца назад

    Golf is so cool when you’re a nerd, I love hearing about the little details of the hole and how it has been such a pivotal and significant hole for a long time.

  • @taylorlucas6151
    @taylorlucas6151 3 месяца назад +3

    Man. These videos are AWESOME

  • @picklenick9474
    @picklenick9474 3 месяца назад +3

    Awesome breakdown!

  • @Mtnbike121
    @Mtnbike121 3 месяца назад +1

    I love this series!

  • @darthvader1402
    @darthvader1402 3 месяца назад +1

    I would love to play that course and that hole when it matters like in a competition. Thanks for sharing this.

  • @eddiemaylor2716
    @eddiemaylor2716 3 месяца назад +1

    I knew the story of the hole, but it was great to see so many good photos.

  • @davidpretorius
    @davidpretorius 3 месяца назад +1

    More please, love them

  • @mikethewhizz5085
    @mikethewhizz5085 3 месяца назад +1

    This is an incredible informative video and I can only profusely apologize for seeing the thumbnail and assuming that this video was about prostate exams before reading the title

  • @luisvaldivieso5217
    @luisvaldivieso5217 3 месяца назад +4

    Love these deep dives!

  • @petermcgill1315
    @petermcgill1315 3 месяца назад

    Great video, once again.

  • @burls7117
    @burls7117 3 месяца назад +1

    Love ya, Ron!

  • @brinecarroll
    @brinecarroll 3 месяца назад +7

    great video as always in this series. i've always thought it's a little gimmicky of a way to decide a tournament that consistently has an excellent field. it'd be obviously silly if it was surrounded with out of bounds stakes instead of water. but it's no doubt iconic

    • @spencerbard4545
      @spencerbard4545 3 месяца назад +2

      Completely disagree with it being gimmicky. The mental game seems to be just as important as the golfing ability itself for pros and this is a hole that puts it to the test. Every pro can hit a wedge within 20 yards, but can you do it when the stakes are high?

  • @eric42ca
    @eric42ca 3 месяца назад +1

    You listed so many island greens, but the most famous non par-3 with an island green is the hole that ended Ben Hogans run at the 1960 US Open at Cherry Hills in Denver.

  • @jimiverson3085
    @jimiverson3085 3 месяца назад +1

    You neglected to mention the island green at the 17th hole on Cherry Hills in Denver. William Flynn designed the course in 1922. The 17th was the watery grave for Ben Hogan's chances to win the 1960 US Open. He was tied with Palmer when he started the 17th, but spun his 3rd shot back into the water. Playing with Hogan that round was Jack Nicklaus, who actually led on the back 9, then started 3-putting ( Nicklaus!) to finish second, 2 shots behind Palmer.

  • @JamJamJam-5
    @JamJamJam-5 3 месяца назад +1

    s tier video can i get a playlist of this guy

  • @mattarmistead
    @mattarmistead 3 месяца назад +2

    The hole looks EXACTLY like the cross section of an eye. It has the optic nerve, the eye body, and the cornea/lens. You're welcome, now you'll never unsee it when looking at the hole.

  • @chrisbiz2
    @chrisbiz2 2 месяца назад

    Thank you!

  • @zachrex4987
    @zachrex4987 3 месяца назад +1

    The springs at Borrego in borrego springs California has a true Island green on hole 9

  • @michaelanderson3198
    @michaelanderson3198 3 месяца назад +1

    There is a Foot by Foot replica of this hole at Eagle Eye Golf Club in Bath Michigan.

  • @benmulder6487
    @benmulder6487 3 месяца назад +1

    There's a course here where I live that has a hole very similar to the 17th, I've played it once and made it on my first try

  • @princelysnail1998
    @princelysnail1998 2 месяца назад

    There’s a replica in Ontario Canada that’s super fun to play. Very accurate

  • @obviouslyPSM
    @obviouslyPSM 3 месяца назад +2

    Felt so bad yesterday, saw someone spin it back, miss the hole by an inch, and then trickle back into the water. Tough

  • @majrminer
    @majrminer 3 месяца назад +7

    I think Pete knew what he was doing and designed the green to look like testicles to troll everyone. Teabagged every fan of golf.

  • @deangilles718
    @deangilles718 3 месяца назад +1

    Curry Park Golf Course in Milwaukee county was designed with a island green on hole #8, it should have been a short par #3 down hill over water to a island green but because of flooding they never put the green in, I have heard that the foundation for the green was done but stopped at that point.

  • @kyledillon9307
    @kyledillon9307 3 месяца назад +1

    What about the island green on the par-5 15th at TPC Scottsdale?

  • @josephwirtz8352
    @josephwirtz8352 3 месяца назад +1

    I’m playing a course in South Carolina next week that has an island green, Lancaster GC hole #7. And yes, I’m already thinking about it…😂

  • @jacobussteyn7062
    @jacobussteyn7062 3 месяца назад +1

    Gary Player designed par 5 at Sun City in South Africa 😮.....island green also

  • @RonPerreault
    @RonPerreault 3 месяца назад +1

    And the 17th at Wooden Sticks in Uxbridge Ontario

  • @tylerhoopes
    @tylerhoopes 2 месяца назад

    9:04 I thought there was an island green at Iron Valley in Cornwall pa. It was a P.B. Dye designed course. Not sure if that counts but I know it’s a cool course.

  • @Real28
    @Real28 2 месяца назад

    Better than most! One of the greatest call outs in golf.
    Nah, island greens are not frightening. I don't know why. I've played on several island/peninsula greens, including a copy of this green.
    The water is always there. You play the green like _any other green_ you'd play. And you just accept if you mishit it, it's a penalty. But it's a short shot, so your margin or error is much larger.
    There are WAY scarier holes even on public courses, let alone something as bespoke for the Professionals as The Stadium course.
    I just don't see why people think about what's around the green. Yeah, it's water. Think about your target. And if you make a bad swing, you make a bad swing.

  • @tehbakedpotato
    @tehbakedpotato 3 месяца назад

    Kudos to Mrs. Dye for her suggestion.

  • @dillontye5023
    @dillontye5023 3 месяца назад +1

    the one at the Ponte Vedra Inn & Club Ocean Course was actually filled in several years ago during their big redesign.
    locals who have played it (me) sure do miss it though!

    • @TheDeityRyan
      @TheDeityRyan 3 месяца назад

      Satellite imagery shows it unchanged since the 90's

    • @casperjax1250
      @casperjax1250 3 месяца назад

      Nope, number 9 is still an island green.

    • @evanotero
      @evanotero 2 месяца назад

      9 is still an island green. I’ve played it more times than I can count

  • @vincentwhitehead6767
    @vincentwhitehead6767 3 месяца назад +2

    A little factual error in the bit about Fowler... not sure how that got messed up, with how iconic of a day it was. He birdied it first at the end of regulation, then again in the 3-hole aggregate playoff (which Sergio subsequently lost), then went on to sudden death with Kevin Kisner and birdied it the third time.

  • @sharkn8do958
    @sharkn8do958 3 месяца назад +1

    Correction 1:45, Tony Boselli hit 25 on the green, 20 in the water, 1 in the bunker, and only 4 on the collar. As spoken, Tony hit 51 shots

  • @momtyers1830
    @momtyers1830 3 месяца назад +1

    this guy is sick af

  • @matthewdevlin4602
    @matthewdevlin4602 3 месяца назад +1

    what about the creek club island green

  • @hepcat91179
    @hepcat91179 2 месяца назад

    Galen Hall is not in Philadelphia. It's in Wernersville, PA in Berks County.

  • @adamseidel9780
    @adamseidel9780 3 месяца назад +1

    Never understood why some play up the difficulty of this hole beyond just obviously penal nature of a miss. It’s a very large green and a short shot, you just have to hit a decent shot or it’s a drop. It’s iconic because of the beautiful look.

  • @jdheelfan
    @jdheelfan 2 месяца назад

    The World Tour Golf Links~The Open 9 Hole #3 Is a replica of 17 at Sawgrass.

  • @noahthomas4341
    @noahthomas4341 3 месяца назад +1

    They replay the same video every year 😂

  • @dreamjackson5483
    @dreamjackson5483 3 месяца назад +1

  • @tfrench31
    @tfrench31 2 месяца назад

    No Gordon Lakes Island Views island green? I hate that it wasn’t compared. Well I guess it’s Eisenhower lakes, but Augusta Ga is synonymous with golf. So unfortunate that an iconic Augusta tee shot was left off.

  • @johndagger-ng9sj
    @johndagger-ng9sj 2 месяца назад

    9th hole at Divi Golf Aruba…..Island Green. says 1 fool and a boat.

  • @davewiemer
    @davewiemer 3 месяца назад +2

    Great job of downplaying Alice Dye’s role!

  • @MikeJones__Who
    @MikeJones__Who 2 месяца назад

    I wish the tree was more in play on this hole. Make it real difficult as you have to hit it over the tree to get to the green mwhahah

  • @kierenferguson2003
    @kierenferguson2003 3 месяца назад

    The only annoying thing is thats is not the 18th

  • @tdawgular15
    @tdawgular15 2 месяца назад

    I'll take hard to read video titles for 300

  • @Eat-MyGoal
    @Eat-MyGoal 3 месяца назад +3

    2:18 Donald Trump-inspired design...

  • @oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656
    @oahujuniorgolfassociationc6656 3 месяца назад +1

    I’d say it’s the epitome of penal golf. I like the hole very much. But this whole head game thing is overrated. That’s a penal hole no matter how short.
    The drop area Might actually be tougher, which is why the pro players would rather re-tee

  • @canuck_gamer3359
    @canuck_gamer3359 2 месяца назад

    This is why LIV golf will fail. The greedy, sob players who jumped ship are just ego maniacs, just like their new boss Norman or Newman or whatever his name is. It's never been about the players as much as the history and the courses that we've all grown up watching every weekend! The names may change but it's like any other sport, it's the atmosphere and the history of the teams and arenas, stadiums and fields that we come to love and cherish. The PGA needs to get it's balls together and face down these sob's.