My preferred opening on most classes is, buffs, shadowstep > leech > snare > snipe > overwhelm > shadowsmite > backdrop(or just moving away) > throw dagger > Charged/piercing > concussive(shackle from shadowsmite about to end) > boneyard > then either float or hunting pack depending
Great video. My only suggestion would be to pause it at intervals and highlight the tells that indicate what action you are countering. Also because I suck, a non-music version and a rotation breakdown would make my day. :)
Its quit easy to anticipate leech engage and counter it accordingly, even if u stealth away. Tho it could be smth specific to me, since when i started (back in the old days) daggerspells were everywhere, going into stealth +shadowstep+banshee combo, so i had to learn how to counter it.
Crazy how archeage classic is bringing me right back here for guidance lol, have you heard of it and do you intend on playing or nah? its popping off big time, a lot of people playing
Good vid man. I only say good and not great cause I dont like DRs or Primes lol. But Still like the vids you are bringing out. They are helping a friend of mine that is trying Prime this time around. On the vid setup I would say lead with the guide and then cut to the music vids for the end.
You see, that's why I rerolled classes. On NA servers it's fine, but move to Prophecy EU and there's a constant server lag that makes it impossible to use movement defensively like that. I thought it would better with time, but we're well into the fresh start servers now, and they're still running on a toaster. Also, very sexy snail.
Hey there, im a primeval myself on eu prophecy, around 4700 equipment score, Im not a pro in any case but i have my own way of dealing with darkrunners. But let me say something first. Your way and my way get fucked up even with 1 resist, DR's are so op that even someone with 3000-3200 gear score can kill you in 1 combo no matter how geared you are. One other thing is that balanced arena is 9/10 loses against DR, it ain't balanced at all. 13991 hp is bullshit, giving me shield buff and divine buff and i have 13991?? I have with celestial and dual weapons outside arena 16100 Hp..... Ok let's see, the combo im using atm and works really good is, sleep> snare(walk back a little so you cant get slept)>snipe(the target now gets tripped cause he was snared)>overwhelm>shadowsmite(tripped again)> concussive shot(he is now silenced)>dropback>throw dagger(increased ranged because of dropback)>charged bolt(this will stun, since you hit with throw dagger and slowed him). By then or earlier any DR will have died with my gear BUT if a resist happens it gets rly tough...... Plus obviously more casual gamers wouldn't have my gear so it would be even harder. To be honest DR is such a cheat... i went today with my alt lvl 51 DR in arenas and won 8/10....(the balanced ones-600equipment score on me).
Hi Rythmn, ty for your videos. I have a little question. Do you still play darkrunner in this 3.0 ? I still play but i don't know now how to execute your combo with the honnor nodachi (with the frenzy buff) because now the skill which make ennemy sleep is only for 3s... Not the time to switch weapon and activate the buff. Have you an idea to replace with skill with maybe another one wich cc the ennemi more time to execute the combo ? (please excuse my bad english, i am french)
What is the best Healer class at the moment for dungeons and zergs? Sexy Snail, by the way I am on EU server so do not know if that code will work here.
Its easier to kill most darkrunners like this because of the two handed meta and they have low parry rates even with battle focus as you can see all the fights are against 2h weapons but its a trade off as dual wielding parries more but does a lot less dmg. Keep an eye on their buffs and general rule of thumb as an archer though like Rhythmn says, dont get caught hahaha.
not bad, though im surprised you dont do leech > snare > snipe. it will trip the target. I'm also surprised how little darkrunners and melee users in general dont use liberation, that shit is a life saver against other DRs and leechers. and would easily allow them to get you after the concussive. Pretty good though, just wish there was less leech. that mythic ping is OP >.< SEXY SNAIL
BTW, would be awesome to see some setup duels against the better players on the server. out of all the darkrunners in this video, i know a few of them are just overall bad. some I dont know who they are but dont seem to play well. only one i know that is good is Cucklord. Having some setup duels with players on your skill level would be awesome to see!
I wont say that it wont be viable, but what i would say that you would struggle with your endless arrows, idk how bad it will be with 130 ping but your endless arrows will differ, you will obviously not be able to hit as fast as Rythmn does. I have played on NA as a primeval, i am not sure how high my ping was but my endless arrows were very boring and slow.
using it in a fight to avoid getting cc locked is cool but right off the start is bleh,..stealth ->shadowstep-> leech off the start with any class is boring tbh
You also have extremely good ping too man. You have a severe advantage against 95% of the population that is playing archeage. And yes it is possible to win without leech. Just bait out 2 of their gap closers with only one of yours. Sure its hard af and there are times you wont win but its more enjoyable to win when you know you didn't cheese the guy hard every match.
Trigga I wish it were that easy Trigga, but no it is not possible to win without leech vs a competent Darkrunner, trust me I've tried multiple times. I've come to a conclusion that I just don't gentlemen rule out leech vs Darkrunner since it's already a cheese class, hence why I don't play it, id quit WAY too fast for lack of competition.
Trigga But I'm not bashing on your class, play whatever is "fun" to you. I'm showcasing to my fans the way I manage to beat some Darkrunners. If you think you can do it better, reroll Primeval and show me, I wanna learn as well. (:
Hey Rythmn as a darkrunner with more then 5000 hours as the class and previously playing primeval for about 2000 i would have to way this guide is pretty deceiving, you showed one or two people who beat you and the rest were people with no experience, all the people in this guide used two-handers to start with, meaing they dont get the parry buff against archery which i can guarentee you even as 2h darkrunner i still used this passive meaning all i had to do was switch to a shield and any shitty weapon and any primeval would do next to no damage, most of these darkrunners didn't even spec liberation, like seriously WTF?? and @Trigga Darkrunner is the most broken class in this game, primeval imo is one of the worse balanced classes in the game if Rythmn didnt use leech the person he would be fighting would have to be a complete idiot not to win!
soo basically leech to win lol... leeching leechrunner as leechmeval oO, and why those drs dont use liberation???? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Philip Cheuk You said he was a "delph" weapon, which he isn't. If it's a Delphi equivalent say that and don't say he using a delphinad as it is very misleading...
you aren't even using the best cc combo cycle for a prime, you literally waste your leech, and your maximum dmg output for your concussive by not building up blood stack, which is a bonus for concussive. You should be sniping after leeching, which causes another trip and it's easy to cc combo drs to death after that. please don't make archery videos against other classes, if you don't even know the basics, which any decent prime player would know.
or instead of being butt hurt try using snipe after leech and use concussive after you cycled your cc combos then make a video on how to fight drs. Every experienced prime or archer class knows these basics.
Tru Warz Like I said, I'm new to Primeval and this is my first time playing it so I need your help. How does one use concussive on a Darkrunner when he's not slept and/or getting a trip with snipe without using snare? Oh do you use snare and leave yourself vulnerable to a shackle that DRs do with shadowsmite? Pls teach me senpai, I want to learn your ways.
Rythmn you can literally fit it in after any of the other cc combos like overwhelm shadowsmite or throw dagger and charged bolt. I usually weave in toxic shot and piercing shot between each cc combo then finishing with concussive after the bleed effect for the extra def pen. for drs you can literally cycle through your cc combos stealth away then use 55 abyssal to concussive snipe before the bleed wears off for the pen and remain untouched.
Tru Warz overwhelm shadowsmite? How can you say you know how to fight Darkrunners when you believe you can overwhelm shadowsmite? I could have seen your reasoning up until then, but you lost me there lol. Oh and please don't say you get them to use shrug by throwdagger > charged, that is too unreliable vs a Darkrunner who parries everything.
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My preferred opening on most classes is, buffs, shadowstep > leech > snare > snipe > overwhelm > shadowsmite > backdrop(or just moving away) > throw dagger > Charged/piercing > concussive(shackle from shadowsmite about to end) > boneyard > then either float or hunting pack depending
When a Darkrunner fights you and you wear cloth, you are the one that ends up broken up.
Great video. My only suggestion would be to pause it at intervals and highlight the tells that indicate what action you are countering. Also because I suck, a non-music version and a rotation breakdown would make my day. :)
saving grace is most DR are two-handers now. keeps them from parry proccing like crazy like the old days. you can actually put out damage now.
Its quit easy to anticipate leech engage and counter it accordingly, even if u stealth away. Tho it could be smth specific to me, since when i started (back in the old days) daggerspells were everywhere, going into stealth +shadowstep+banshee combo, so i had to learn how to counter it.
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Crazy how archeage classic is bringing me right back here for guidance lol, have you heard of it and do you intend on playing or nah? its popping off big time, a lot of people playing
Sorry for responding so late! I'm glad these videos still help haha, but nah I don't think I'm playing calssic. How is it now, still popping off?
You should do a video about fighting a darkrunner as mage
Good vid man. I only say good and not great cause I dont like DRs or Primes lol. But Still like the vids you are bringing out. They are helping a friend of mine that is trying Prime this time around. On the vid setup I would say lead with the guide and then cut to the music vids for the end.
Can you show us your build mate please?
You see, that's why I rerolled classes. On NA servers it's fine, but move to Prophecy EU and there's a constant server lag that makes it impossible to use movement defensively like that. I thought it would better with time, but we're well into the fresh start servers now, and they're still running on a toaster.
Also, very sexy snail.
the point is being faster
noob question : how do you change your mirror warp direction keybinds ?
Hey there, im a primeval myself on eu prophecy, around 4700 equipment score, Im not a pro in any case but i have my own way of dealing with darkrunners. But let me say something first. Your way and my way get fucked up even with 1 resist, DR's are so op that even someone with 3000-3200 gear score can kill you in 1 combo no matter how geared you are. One other thing is that balanced arena is 9/10 loses against DR, it ain't balanced at all. 13991 hp is bullshit, giving me shield buff and divine buff and i have 13991?? I have with celestial and dual weapons outside arena 16100 Hp.....
Ok let's see, the combo im using atm and works really good is, sleep> snare(walk back a little so you cant get slept)>snipe(the target now gets tripped cause he was snared)>overwhelm>shadowsmite(tripped again)> concussive shot(he is now silenced)>dropback>throw dagger(increased ranged because of dropback)>charged bolt(this will stun, since you hit with throw dagger and slowed him). By then or earlier any DR will have died with my gear BUT if a resist happens it gets rly tough...... Plus obviously more casual gamers wouldn't have my gear so it would be even harder. To be honest DR is such a cheat... i went today with my alt lvl 51 DR in arenas and won 8/10....(the balanced ones-600equipment score on me).
hey Rythnm what did u take out of archery talents to get concussive shot plus bone yard? Btw.. love your vids man keep it up.
what button did you set leech to ?
@Rythmn can you please make a video about your keybinds that you are using for Archeage? Keep it up love your content
Hi Rythmn, ty for your videos. I have a little question. Do you still play darkrunner in this 3.0 ? I still play but i don't know now how to execute your combo with the honnor nodachi (with the frenzy buff) because now the skill which make ennemy sleep is only for 3s... Not the time to switch weapon and activate the buff. Have you an idea to replace with skill with maybe another one wich cc the ennemi more time to execute the combo ? (please excuse my bad english, i am french)
Vincent B Just stop leechrunnig.... and no theres no other cc that u can do...what u can do is pop the nodachi b4 engaging
Ok, ty for your answer. Sorry for my bad english, i am french. What is "leechrunning" ?
Qué arco tienes?
What's the name of that nodachi
What is the best Healer class at the moment for dungeons and zergs?
Sexy Snail, by the way I am on EU server so do not know if that code will work here.
what song is that. plz link it.
Song list? :)
Enigmatist and or defiler
do u not play wow or something anymore
As archer you are also kinda lucky everyone is running 2h, they cant parry ranged attacks with that.
Great vid, the explanation of what your thinking helps. Two days late, but worth a try: Sexy Snail forever!!!
song name?
is archage still p2w or not? thinking to start again so
I love this you are the best. I want more open world pvp and stealing trade pack cuz u make it fun!!!! love u ^.^
Its easier to kill most darkrunners like this because of the two handed meta and they have low parry rates even with battle focus as you can see all the fights are against 2h weapons but its a trade off as dual wielding parries more but does a lot less dmg. Keep an eye on their buffs and general rule of thumb as an archer though like Rhythmn says, dont get caught hahaha.
primeval vs cleric pls
not bad, though im surprised you dont do leech > snare > snipe. it will trip the target.
I'm also surprised how little darkrunners and melee users in general dont use liberation, that shit is a life saver against other DRs and leechers. and would easily allow them to get you after the concussive.
Pretty good though, just wish there was less leech. that mythic ping is OP >.<
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BTW, would be awesome to see some setup duels against the better players on the server. out of all the darkrunners in this video, i know a few of them are just overall bad. some I dont know who they are but dont seem to play well. only one i know that is good is Cucklord.
Having some setup duels with players on your skill level would be awesome to see!
Rythmn as an Australian I'll have higher ping I can get it to roughly 130 with a VPN is primeval still viable with this ping?
nah primeval is ping dependant. 10-70ish is still ok.
I wont say that it wont be viable, but what i would say that you would struggle with your endless arrows, idk how bad it will be with 130 ping but your endless arrows will differ, you will obviously not be able to hit as fast as Rythmn does. I have played on NA as a primeval, i am not sure how high my ping was but my endless arrows were very boring and slow.
Primevals are soo easy to catch as DR. Key is timing lol
how to beat a dark runner: use defense.
Rythmn vs Kooncoon who will win? :3
Vampire Channels Whoever get the first leech lmao... that what em do :P
true :P
why they just dont backdrop/shadowstep/leech u, i dont understand ^^
cause he is only showing the guys who are super trash
Cause a dr who has any self respect won't engage with leech.
lol, u have ability, u use it, same goes for everyone..
Fresh servers laggy as fuck, my endless arrows like a auto attack...
I refuse to play primeval since it is all I see >:( also did you say sex snell? o.o or snail?
so basically I'm going to get rekt with my 3.7k GS lol good video man
tbh it would be nice for you to show case your viewers how to win without leech. Opening a match with shadowstep leech is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Trigga I don't think it's possible to win without leech vs a Darkrunner. Primevals are already at a severe disadvantage.
using it in a fight to avoid getting cc locked is cool but right off the start is bleh,..stealth ->shadowstep-> leech off the start with any class is boring tbh
You also have extremely good ping too man. You have a severe advantage against 95% of the population that is playing archeage. And yes it is possible to win without leech. Just bait out 2 of their gap closers with only one of yours. Sure its hard af and there are times you wont win but its more enjoyable to win when you know you didn't cheese the guy hard every match.
Trigga I wish it were that easy Trigga, but no it is not possible to win without leech vs a competent Darkrunner, trust me I've tried multiple times. I've come to a conclusion that I just don't gentlemen rule out leech vs Darkrunner since it's already a cheese class, hence why I don't play it, id quit WAY too fast for lack of competition.
Trigga But I'm not bashing on your class, play whatever is "fun" to you. I'm showcasing to my fans the way I manage to beat some Darkrunners. If you think you can do it better, reroll Primeval and show me, I wanna learn as well. (:
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If I ever see you in arena (Idk how it works if you go against just your own side or both) Im just not even going to try... /beg
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drs have charge, teleport, tiger strike, and percision strike . i mean what the fuck!!!
So many bad dark runners...
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Hey Rythmn as a darkrunner with more then 5000 hours as the class and previously playing primeval for about 2000 i would have to way this guide is pretty deceiving, you showed one or two people who beat you and the rest were people with no experience, all the people in this guide used two-handers to start with, meaing they dont get the parry buff against archery which i can guarentee you even as 2h darkrunner i still used this passive meaning all i had to do was switch to a shield and any shitty weapon and any primeval would do next to no damage, most of these darkrunners didn't even spec liberation, like seriously WTF?? and @Trigga Darkrunner is the most broken class in this game, primeval imo is one of the worse balanced classes in the game if Rythmn didnt use leech the person he would be fighting would have to be a complete idiot not to win!
soo basically leech to win lol... leeching leechrunner as leechmeval oO, and why those drs dont use liberation???? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
yoyoyoyoyoyoy yoyoyooy yea like wtf dr without liberation they should die:P
So salty about pots haha (i don't blame u, i'd do the same)
João Moraes U won
Making a video on unbalanced arena to show case your delphi weapon lol. Totally unrealistic to the people that don't have that weapon.
Philip Cheuk He's not using a "Delph"weapons, it's a mistsong weapon that anyone can get by putting in the time to get by farming dungeons
Rashawn Green sir that is a Delphi equivalent weapon if you ever look at the stats...
Why are you crying about the weapon? lmao what
Its a free weapon, anyone can get it if they play the game. Dumbest comment on here
Philip Cheuk You said he was a "delph" weapon, which he isn't. If it's a Delphi equivalent say that and don't say he using a delphinad as it is very misleading...
Bugatti if that's crying not sure if you are considered a moron or a very stupid person.
you aren't even using the best cc combo cycle for a prime, you literally waste your leech, and your maximum dmg output for your concussive by not building up blood stack, which is a bonus for concussive. You should be sniping after leeching, which causes another trip and it's easy to cc combo drs to death after that. please don't make archery videos against other classes, if you don't even know the basics, which any decent prime player would know.
Tru Warz Guess I'm not decent enough. Would you care to showcase your godly skill as a Primeval to make me a better player?
or instead of being butt hurt try using snipe after leech and use concussive after you cycled your cc combos then make a video on how to fight drs. Every experienced prime or archer class knows these basics.
Tru Warz Like I said, I'm new to Primeval and this is my first time playing it so I need your help. How does one use concussive on a Darkrunner when he's not slept and/or getting a trip with snipe without using snare? Oh do you use snare and leave yourself vulnerable to a shackle that DRs do with shadowsmite? Pls teach me senpai, I want to learn your ways.
Rythmn you can literally fit it in after any of the other cc combos like overwhelm shadowsmite or throw dagger and charged bolt. I usually weave in toxic shot and piercing shot between each cc combo then finishing with concussive after the bleed effect for the extra def pen. for drs you can literally cycle through your cc combos stealth away then use 55 abyssal to concussive snipe before the bleed wears off for the pen and remain untouched.
Tru Warz overwhelm shadowsmite? How can you say you know how to fight Darkrunners when you believe you can overwhelm shadowsmite? I could have seen your reasoning up until then, but you lost me there lol. Oh and please don't say you get them to use shrug by throwdagger > charged, that is too unreliable vs a Darkrunner who parries everything.
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