Her name is Jil Torbo, she is a halfling like Holga's ex husband Marlamin (the short guy played by Bradley Cooper). Halflings are commonly known as "hobbits" in the Lord of the Rings franchise, so basically Jil and Marlamin are the same race as Frodo and Bilbo Baggins.
Explaining the question about Zia (Edgin's wife): in D&D there is afterlife and it's actually tangible (with certain spells like Plane Shift even the living can travel there). There are so-called Outer Planes. Depending on character's Alignment their soul ends up in the correspondent Outer Plane when they die. Those include various ideas for afterlife throughout many different cultures: there's Christian/Dantesque Seven Heavens, Limbo and Nine Hells; Classic Olympus, Elysium, Tartarus and Hades; Buddhist Nirvana, Norse Asgard, etc. Zia, as a kind and gentle person was definitely Good aligned. I would assume Neutral or Chaotic Good to be married to Edgin (himself a Chaotic Good character). So her afterlife destination would probably be Elysium, Beastlands, or Arborea. With her connection to dragonflies (a dragonfly appears many times over the movie whenever Zia is referenced) my bet is on Beastlands, as the name reveals, a realm of all manner of animal spirits as well as many wilderness deities and souls of people who lived close to nature (many good druids and rangers end up in Beastlands after death). So yes, Xenk was right in a way, bringing her back would take her soul from the afterlife (again, presumably Beastlands) back to Prime Material Plane were she willing (as per rules of resurrection spell the soul has to be willing to come back). The appearance of dragonfly moments before Edgin's decision was Zia's message letting him know she's happy in the afterlife and that she approves of bringing Holga back instead of her.
@@cristianstark9411 It's always a pleasure to see rising new DMs in the community :) I recommend the Forgotten Realms wiki for more lore and info about the setting (that's where I double check my tidbits just to make sure it's still in that mind palace of mine intact ). It's extremely useful if you want to share more with your players (e.g. if they find themselves in a library).
Edgin actually told the truth and used the Tablet to bring back Kira's 'Mom'. She was a baby when her mother was killed and Holga is the only Mother Kira ever knew. I like that he always keeps his promises, whether he intends on keeping them or not.
14:48: And that is one of the most important roles the bard plays in an adventuring party. Inspiration, and keeping despair at bay. :) This little moment might actually be my favourite in the whole movie, because it manages to say a lot about the characters, about DnD, about storytelling, and about life in general. Plus it's a catchy tune :)
Oh, as to your sequel question: The world that this is set in is called the Forgotten Realms. It's had adventuring material written for it for 50 years. There are many many series of novels and game modules that could be seeds for future stories. I think that's what the D&D brand people would love to see a series based on. And note that the folks behind Vox Machina have a TV and Movie deal set up with Amazon, and so that's still a D&D world, but it's the setting of Exandria. The main D&D people have other settings that may become properties as well. There's a great series of books called Dragonlance that some people are trying to get made. There are just a lot of settings that have a lot of history to pull from for good story ideas... Anyway, that's what we can look forward to if they found this profitable enough.
@@boboboy8189 Not for me, I still remember so much of it; my favorite moment was the first moment Doric the Druid turns into an Owlbear while in horse form
in dungeons and dragons there are a number of resurrection style spells, most require expensive regents like diamonds, but there is always a limit to time since death or special cases where lower level resurrection type spells won't work in the case of the red wizard's dagger, which required a much higher level spell overcome it's effects. There is also a spell called reincarnation If I remember right which has less restrictions but the person's soul randomly finds itself in a totally new body.
To answer your question about the wife living her "new life", people absolutely have souls in D&D, and when you die your soul can pass on to one of many "planes of existence." So she could definitely be living a new life, but not in a reincarnation sense.
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 The D&D cosmology is not a single universe, it is a multiverse. Without going into too much detail it is organized like this: - the Elemental Planes like the Plane of Earth or the Plane of Fire, also known as the Inner Planes, which are basically the foundation of reality - the Etherial Plane which connects the Inner Plane to the Prime Material Plane, also known as one of the transitional planes - the Prime Material Plane, which is basically the "normal" universe with stars, planets, star systems, galaxies and the like - the Astral Plane, connecting the Prime Material to the Outer Planes; the other transitional plane - the Outer Planes which each represent a specific alignment (like Lawful Good or Chaoric Evil). In addition there's a huge amount of so-called demi-planes which are usually located within the Etherial Plane. Next important thing to know is that gods exist in the D&D cosmology not only as abstracts but as very real, active beings. Each god has their own realm located somewhere in the cosmology listed above (be it as a demi-plane, secluded part of one of the actual planes etc). People who where devoted followers of a specific god usually end up in the realm of their god after their death. People who don't end in a specific god's domain usually travel to the plane that represents their alignment (which means all souls not travelling to a god's realm travel to the Outer Plains). To understand this you need to know the alignment system of D&D. The alignments are made of two parts: One is the morality aspect of Good, Neutrality (as in neither good nor evil) or Evil; the other one is Law, Neutrality (as in balancing order and Chaos) and Chaos. This means there are 9 alignments in total. So a Chaotic Evil soul would travel to the plane representing that alignment: The Abyss. A Lawfull Evil soul would travel to the plane representing that alignment: The Nine Hells etc.
At the beginning, the dragonborn on the council actually said, "But we approved your pardon!" Meaning that if they had waited to hear the results before attempting a risky escape plan, they'd have known it wasn't necessary... which is like 50% of D&D players when they plan before the DM gives them key info 😂 The panther thing in the maze was a displacer beast. In the game, their ability to project an illusion of themselves in a different location translates to them being *much* harder than normal to hit. Like... frustratingly harder. It doesn't matter how strong your attacks are if 75% of them miss 😑Can you tell I've had a bad encounter with them before? 😂 As far as I'm aware, most D&D settings don't have a concept of reincarnation per se. But they usually have an afterlife that the spirit passes onto after death, which is what I think Xenk was referring to.
Sofina is a Red Wizard of Thay, and her red robes are what she always wears, however, she can use illusion to make them appear as other colors so that she's not immediately attacked by anyone else in Faerun.
For elaboration , Thay is big into slavery and undead as labor. When the slaves are getting old they tend to kill them and make them undead. And that’s day to day. The whole “liches run the place” tends to mean you get a whole bunch of more creative atrocities like that horn getting brainstormed all the time. I mean if your going to kill the slave to make them a soulless husk anyway; why not scoop out the soul first to use? So many possibilities as long as you don’t mind the screaming. Or enjoy the screaming. Needless to say anywhere else on Faerun Thay is considered a PROBLEM.
I think this movie is BRILLIANTLY written and paced. Like the quick but impactful sweeping vistas... it doesn't drag, but you get the sense of the magical and vast world they are in. The final emotional scene? It was set up through the ENTIRE movie, without any mention or instance being heavy handed or plodding. And once you see her stabbed you know what's going to happen. But it manages to just GET you, with this brief but wonderful emotional story beat. I can't rave enough about this movie, particularly when you think of other fantasy movies.
Whoever thought of the pudgy dragon deserves an award and a raise. That whole scene had me falling over laughing and I can't say I've ever seen a dragon depicted that way anywhere else. Big points for originality 🙂
Themberchaud Is a D&D NPC in the source books for quite the while. In the UNDERDARK there is a race of dark dwarves that use dragonsfire in their forges. So they capture a dragon and raise it, while giving it an endless amount of food, making the dragon fat. After a while when dragons mature they stop being able to be controlled and so can be killed or abandoned by the dwarves.
Themberchaud is an NPC (non-player character) that is from an Underdark based adventure called Out of the Abyss. I was so happy when they decided to add him.
@@mbpoblet Themberchaud was invented over a decade after Gygax left the company and is from a setting (Forgotten Realms)that only became an official setting after he left (before that Forgotten Realms was the private setting of another DM who worked for TSR, so no reason Gygax would be DMing it, especially since the default D&D setting before that was Gygax's own setting he used in his games; Greyhawk.)
I love that despite you can tell a mile away Edgin is gonna use the tablet for someone else than his wife, you still get completely wrapped up in the finale because the characters are so compelling.
"That thing" is called a Displacer Beast and is actually based on a "monster" from an old science fiction short story. It is effectively a six-legged panther with the ability to project its image where it is not.
As a kid I actually read the original short story. Let's see if I can remember right... it was a coeurl and the story was... Voyage of the Space Beagle? (looks it up) Ha ha! Shaky memory got it right.
Funny thing: In D&D you have Wizards, who study books and have magic based on intellect, and Sorcerers, who have a more free-form use of magic based on charisma/ego/personal strength. Simon, being a sorcerer, his magic is fueled by confidence and personality. The narrative journey of him finding his confidence actually intertwines completely with game and setting elements. Hahahaa.
There are in fact multiple afterlives in D&D. Basically, they are separate planes that can sometimes be accessed by planar travel and are usually under a deities direct control. Which one you end up in really depends on who you worshipped and your alignment in life.
Funfacts: For promotion for the films release, Edgin, Holga, Simon, Doric, and Xenk all had character stat blocks made for fans to use in an actual campaign. Additionally, one of the groups in the arena was the characters from an old D&D cartoon.
To answer the afterlife question, in D&D "standard" realms there's a very extensive and well-mapped multiverse theory with a very well-known afterlife process both to players/Dungeon Masters and for the people living in those worlds as well. Anyone in those worlds that's dedicated any amount of time at all reading arcane, religious, or even historical manuscripts in those worlds will know fairly well as well-trodden fact what awaits them. This is due to that people go back and forth from there all the time. Resurrections, while not common, exist, as well as planar travel between the planes of the normal world and roughly two dozen other planes of good, evil, and in between, many of which are destinations for the afterlife depending on the soul in question. Powerful adventurers, archmages, and religious champions consistently travel between these planes and interact directly with the deities and demideities that rule those realms and the souls of the dead found and communicated with as well. In short, it's not even a religious or philosophical question about his wife's new life in the afterlife, it's just a fact of reality. Like talking about life as an adult after graduating school.
In the DnD settings basically every form of afterlife exists among the outer planes. When a mortal dies their soul is drawn into one of those realms (typically determined by whatever their faith/culture dictated but lacking that based on their moral alignment) where they assume a life that fits them. Some bond with the plane, some remain spirits drifting through the plane for eternity, some gain new bodies and live lives according to where they end up. So bringing someone back to life robs them of whatever afterlife they've earned for themselves which can be devastating especially for one whose been dead long enough to really adjust to their new lives.
15:32 For reference, all dragons in DnD have different breath weapons; gold and red dragons like Themberchaud breathe fire (or flammable gas in his case since he's probably way too out of shape to breathe fire naturally), while copper and black dragons like Rakor basically just vomit acid. Others include burping out poison gas for green dragons, while blue and bronze breathe lightning, and silver and white breathe pure freezing cold. 26:56 That would be a Displacer Beast: they have innate magic that allows them to cast illusory holograms of themselves, making them appear to be about a meter away from where they actually are - they're basically the best ambush predators in DnD.
Doric's owlbear beatdown at the end resembling the Hulk beating up on Loki was intentional. I can't remember the guy's name, but one of the producers on this movie had worked on MCU projects for a while, so the directors put that moment in as a little wink to him. As a longtime D&D player, I loved this movie. One of the things I think it did best was incorporating so much lore from the game while still making it very accessible to non-players. The 2000 D&D movie was basically just a generic fantasy movie with the D&D name slapped on it. I love that we got a bunch of monsters straight out of the game, including my all-time favorite the Displacer Beast. Probably the biggest deviation from the "rules" was Doric's shapeshifting, they gave her more flexibility with it. But all the "hardcore" players who got butthurt about that can go pound sand, because Doric was great, and that whole escape sequence from the castle was AWESOME. :)
"You are terrible!" "I can be a bit naughty..." Fun Fact: Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello makes a cameo during the Arena sequence. What Script Fact: Regé-Jean Page improvised the scene where Xenk steps right over the boulder, barely even breaking his stride. Chris Pine then improvised the resulting narration. Lost In Adaptation: Druid Doric (Sophia Lillis) repeatedly turns into an Owlbear, which appears to be her favorite form for fighting. According to the current official rules of the Dungeons & Dragons tabletop game, a druid cannot turn into an Owlbear. A druid can in fact only turn into a Beast (and eventually an Elemental), but the Owlbear is classified among the "Monstrosities" and a druid character cannot take the shape of those particular creatures. Game Accurate Fact: The movie is set in the Forgotten Realms setting. All the spells used in the film, while largely unnamed, are all legitimate spells used in the Dungeons & Dragons. The overweight red dragon the party encounters in the Underdark is Themberchaud, a known powerful denizen of the Underdark. In an overhead shot as Edgin (Chris Pine) and Holga (Michelle Rodriguez) walk through town, you can see two rust monsters fighting over a scrap of metal, which serves as food for this species. The prison Edgin and Holga escape from is Revel's End. A prison built on a cliff-side overlooking the Sea of Moving Ice in the Frozenfar region of the North.
I don't know why but I hate that Doric uses a slingshot. I get that no-one uses a sling anymore and most people don't know what one is but I still find it very irritating.
On 27:12, those characters are actually a reference to an 80's cartoon based on D&D, it is something of a cult classic. But still, thanks for watching this movie, it is a shame the people behind it they chose a poor time to release it as it came out a week before Super Mario, which did not help it at the box office, it is a very underrated film and much better then first believed.
just noticed that some of them kinda have their moments, showing what they do in like a single 1v1 with the dm like dorik transforming into a lot of animals in one go, holga fighting off the guards in the castle, and xenk with the undead
there is an afterlife in D&D, several different planes of it, so he's asking Edgin if it's a good idea to pull her from where she has been after all this time. if she was good, which it seems like she was, she mayyy have gone to Celestia - kind of D&D heaven, and it's pretty epic there. As a player you can get to these planes while still living in the same way Greek heroes can travel to the heavens or the underworld in those old epic tales. It's usually a rather difficult feat. I've had a character that went to both the Abyss and Celestia as part of a universe-saving quest. Anyway, I think that's what Zenk is saying, if she's in Celestia, do you really want to bring her back here from peace and paradise? Having said that, D&D does have both the concept of resurrection and reincarnation, typically a result of either magical or divine intervention (i.e. there are spells that can do both of those things, they are typically high level and almost always rather costly, but also a deity could make either happen - aka the DM using a deity to do something in the narrative). And in the in-world canon of Faerun, some believe that reincarnation may happen naturally after a time.
I had hoped you would react to this movie, after seeing how much you enjoyed the trailer. And I hope it satisfied? I haven’t met anyone yet who dislikes it, and I hope I never do. It’s a pity that RUclips only let you show snippets, but you got some good ones. I’m curious to know what some of your favorite moments and characters are. The moment that consistently gets me wheezing with laughter is the failed illusion in the courtyard. “What madness is this?!”
Went to see this with a buddy of mine who got me into D&D, had ourselves a little game of determining what subclasses and whatnot each character had. - Edgin doesn't do much barding in the way of spells, and by his own admission, he "makes plans." So we both came up with the idea that Edgin isn't really a Bard, he's a Mastermind Rogue pretending to be a Bard! - We decided Holga was a Berserker Barbarian (none of the other subclasses seemed to really click with her) and with the frequency she uses improvised weapons in a fight, she definitely has the Tavern Brawler feat. - Simon's a Wild Magic Sorcerer. Pretty sure this was said and demonstrated in the movie. Not much else to say. - Doric has to be a Circle of the Moon Druid, considering she's pretty much reliant on her Wild Shape to turn into an owlbear and mess people up. Circle of the Moon is the subclass you want for shapeshifting shenanigans. - Xenk's a Paladin, for certain. He's straight-laced and loves justice (so pretty typical for your average Paladin), and we ended up deciding on Oath of Devotion since that particular Oath is standard for your "knight in shining armour"-style Paladins.
I mean, I agree that Doric is a Moon Druid, but something I've seen and heard a lot of people get wrong is something you got wrong too: In 5e, which I believe this movie is supposed to base it's rules of magic on, Owlbears aren't covered under Wild Shape. Wild Shape let's you turn into creature under the category of "Beast". Owlbears, in 5e, are "Monstrosities". A Druid could Shapechange into one, sure, but...not Wild Shape. Edit: Nevermind, just read her wiki page, and she *does* Wild Shape into it...because of bullcrap...whatever. Apologies for incorrectly correcting you.
@@tomjones6733 Oh I'm well aware Doric shouldn't be able to change into an owlbear according to 5e's rules about Wild Shape. It's fine to take a few artistic liberties and bend a couple rules, I think, if you're making media about tabletop games. Maybe the DM was feeling generous to let Doric's player do that? Haha.
@@gladiatrixathena2756 Yeah, that's what I'm filing it under. The wiki page I found detailed the reasoning behind it, I just...disagree with it a tad. Oh well.
Every monster seen is in fact something you can find in D&D, heck I'm sure the fish that ate that baby has a stat sheet somewhere, and someone more crazy than I has probably already identified each of the spells used by every character in this movie. Basically with D&D all you have to know is that if you think "I wonder if someone has made mechanics for that to be playable in the game" the answer is yes, yes they have. Also 17:17 Thats what we call Lich Ugly, for wizards to get their undead powers they gotta be smack by every branch on the way down to lichdom. Honestly it's on Thay for letting what so clearly a Lich help rule their government, but thats Wizard Hubris™ for ya
This movie had all the D&D tropes in it. It had intellect devourers and a displacer beast and a gelatinous cube and a mimic disguised as a treasure chest... the only way it could have been more on point would have been to have had the bard try to seduce the dragon.
I love this movie, it feels exactly as a campaign with your friends and that is something I really cherish If I were to find something I don't like it would be the fact that they did non-humanoid races with costumes instead of CGI. Otherwise? Absolutely stellar. A couple of notes: -the pudgy dragon is Themberchaud; basically the dueregar (dark dwarves) periodically kidnap a red dragon hatchling and they keep it fed and trapped in their city as a living fuel for their furnaces, only to kill it before it grows too powerful to control... obviously Themberchaud managed to escape that fate and the result is... well... a chubby adult red dragon that is as goofy in its movements as much as its tanky. -the panther is a displacer beast, a special kind of predator originally bred in the Feywild (the plane from whence most fey beings come from) as big game for cerimonial hunts and some managed to escape to the material plane. They are incredible hunters with the ability to, as you have seen, create a distortion in perception that causes 50% of the attacks directed at them to miss. The animals used in the Feywild to hunt them down are blink dogs.
When it comes to the afterlife in D&D, specifically the Forgotten Realms where this movie is set, there are a lot of different kinds of afterlives. Most often a soul is drawn to the realm of the god someone worshiped in life or the plane of existence that most aligns with the life they lived. Most commonly a person will go to one of the Celestial (heavenly) planes if they led a good life and either the Nine Hells or the Abyss if they led an evil life. Exceptional souls might even eventually become new angels, demons, or devils. So Xenk, being a paladin or holy warrior, would be especially cautious about pulling a soul away from their afterlife after so much time had passed. Hope this helps! I love all your reaction videos but your D&D content is always among my favorite. I can't wait for season 3 of Vox Machia!
I don't know if anyone's said it or not but the panther creature was a displacer beast. as far as I know, they're pretty nasty but I don't think they use their tentacle-like appendages for the illusion they create by bending light. I remember something about special nerves somewhere on the body. or maybe this was a different type of displacer beast. I welcome being proved wrong.
A cool idea I’ve seen is having the same actors but playing different characters, representing the people playing these characters playing different characters
Dungeons and Dragons have multiple "heavenly" planes of existence where the deserving souls go and there is also reincarnation as well as resurrection.
To answer your question about death in the D&D universe: The world exists in the "prime material plane". This is where mortals are born, live, and die. That plane or realm is surrounded by other inner planes (the elements, shadow, the feywild, etc.) and many many outer planes (heavens and hells.) Each of the outer planes are tied to alignments: good or evil, lawful or chaotic, and the combinations. These other planes have residents of their own, like elementals, angels, demons, etc. That's the general setup of most worlds. Then, depending on the specifics of the setting, you die, your spirit gets judged, and goes to the outer plane where the spirit belongs - to be rewarded in a heavenly place with angels or sent to... a darker place where your spirit fits in to be tortured (or rewarded) as appropriate. When someone does a raise dead, resurrection, or reincarnation spell the soul is called back from that outer plane and put in a reconstructed body. So if she's in her eternal reward, she might not want to come back. Other note: The soul knows who is trying to bring it back, so evil people can't revive good people to torture them, they can just decline and stay out there. Last note: There's a revivify spell that can raise someone from the dead, but only in the first minute after death. (As seen on Vox Machina.) That's trying to get them before they get judged. To all my fellow nerds, I know that's a very quick and dirty version, but I bet it's already too long for the usual watcher. 🙂
There is absolutely an afterlife in DND. The mythology and cosmology is very deep. A good person like Ed's wife is probably living an idyllic existence in a Heavenly place.
My plot for a sequence: The group now is faced by a threath that pure strength can't solve alone. They need to pull an "Ocean's Eleven" on somebody, and now they need a trickster. There is none available... except for a certain ex-lord of Neverwinter that is now jailed...
'Its a happy ending, im pathetic' Honestly made me laugh but yea its a great movie with many call backs like the displacer beast, mimic, and gelatinous cube. (in order of appearance in arena)
I really adore how Chris Pine's only real value in actual combat is to bonk the fuck out of people with his lute and he otherwise spends most of the movie running away from enemies.
He’s a bard and without acknowledging it in the movie, he provides inspiration to the party, which is what a lot of spells a bard casts are for in dnd. It was a pretty subtly clever move.
I have been binging many reactions to this dnd movie, yours is delightful and I can see that both of you deserve a good DnD game Experience, I would urge you try it you are both ideal candidates for a roleplaying game like dnd.
@@evlbzltyryeah, I'm pretty sure that the script for the movie was written pre-campaign 3. So it's just a coincidence. A good one! But just a coincidence.
You must watch Puss in Boots the last wish, super awesome movie! Just dont watch spoilers before watching movie. By far one of my top 3 movies of all time💖
D&D is my Special Interest I run it constantly for friends and family and I absolutely adore this film. I've always imagined living in the Forgotten Realms (the D&D setting the movie takes place in) and I love reading the novels set there too, Drizzt series being probably my favorite. This movie absolutely nailed the setting while also making a really good fantasy adventure anyone could sit down and love! Also to promote the film they released a free adventure from one of their (at-the-time) upcoming books that is basically a prison break heist set in the prison at the beginning of this movie, Revel's End. I ran it for my sister, my partner and their sister before the movie came out and now we play regularly on Mondays xD (in our version of Revel's End, due to improv shenanigans, there's a chef with an Italian accent who serves pizza in the mess hall so at least the prisoners get nice dinner xD) Also our game is set seven-ish years before the movie so in our last session I put Hugh Grant's Forge in the casino the party is stealing from. He's there to win what they are stealing through cheating at the game itself so he's gonna be a rival x3c
When I saw this movie I thought the first half was pretty rocky and I was considering not to finish. I'm glad I did, because I think they really stuck the landing.
So I think what was meant with the Mother is in the Forgotten Realms the gods are very real, kind of like the Greek gods. Only they each have their own dimension where they rule. So if she was a good person, I believe the cosmology says her spirit would go to a paradise like heavenly realm. Neutral people go to the realm of the God of Death and stay there, and bad people go to the Hells. Well everyone gets judged by the God of Death, but you kind of get sorted and sent to other places. So while resurrection is possible you are potentially ripping them out of paradise to bring them back, I think that's all the guy was saving. :)
When yiu are redirected in dungeons and dragons you loose a level, there are several ways to do it most involve at least a level 7 or higher spell the undead are a huge part of dungeons and dragons the main red wizard sofina was working for is a litch like voldermort
Future dungeons and dragons movies can have entirely different character and take place in different place dungeons and dragons was created in 1974 and is on its 5th edition so decades of lore
In the worlds of DND and Pathfinder there is the concept of the cycle of reincarnation. the souls that die go to one of the 9 after lifes based on alignment. after a certain set of time, souls get cleansed of their past selves and return as new people.
Thanks for the vid. I liked the movie. note; You two are great reactors, content streamers, and top-tier for relationship goals. You enjoy what you do, you love and enjoy each other's company and it shows. I say that because I've noticed a lot of couples reaction channels over the years and most feel like one REALLY doesn't want to be there. Giving off the vibe that they're trying to pay attention and want to get it over with, but their partner talks way too much, pauses constantly, and/or talks over them when they do try to comment on what they're watching and they're trying hard but fail to not let it show that they're not enjoying any of it. I've never seen or felt that vibe from you two and your vids are always enjoyable. You're great. You deserve all the things. Much love and enjoy your weekend.
With regard to Edgin's wife, the world of the forgotten realms is known as a the material plane, but there are others, the inner planes of energy and elements, the outer planes of belief and ideology. When you die in this world your spirit goes to join your god or at least your most closely aligned belief, as represented on the outer planes. Its a thing in the game that yes you can cast resurrection, but the spirit you are trying to bring back to the material plane may decide not to come and prefer to stay where it is.
Fun fact! Michelle Rodriguez specifically trained up and put on about 75 lbs. in order to play this role. Watching her pull off those fight scenes I'd say her hard work really paid off.
A little feedback; I do think you need to change your editing for movie reactions in a way so that it can show more of a reaction from you as opposed to just trying to show little clips of the plot playing out. People who watch the video likely have already seen the movie so we would rather see specific moments that would give a good reaction, than lots of little snippets that seemingly cause no reaction other than a smirk.
Speaking of DnD reactions... Would love to see Vox Machina on the channel at somepoint down the road. Great movie, glad you two got into and enjoyed it. Sad it didn't do the numbers though, but I still have hope.
Worth noting that as Vox Machina's setting was made up by Matt Mercer and they changed any D&D references just enough to avoid copyright (so monsters, gods, the names of spells etc.) for the show then Hasbro (who own D&D) don't see any of the money from that, so they may be more likely to try and force an ongoing franchise out of this movie (or just D&D in general) so they can get in on the interest in this sort of thing while it's there. They're currently trying to wring as much money out of D&D (the game) as possible since their other businesses aren't doing so hot recently...
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 glad you both enjoyed it! it's always fun seeing you two guess stuff right and make fun jokes, keep the fun videos coming! wishing you two all the best ~
I honestly wasn't interested at first. Curiosity got the better of me and I'm glad it did. This had some good action, some good laughs, the graveyard, the illusion malfunction, and the ending fight were are just fun.
I’m in the same boat, I have very little knowledge of the D&D world, so I just wrote it off as a niche action film. Caved and watched it and I actually loved it.
14:00 Nope. Red Robe,shaved tattoed heads are one of Thayan Red Wizards signature mark. Those are evil wizards, necromancers, slavers, demon worshippers, practitioners of twisted experiments and mutations and etc etc etc 34:48 And here I guess is a picture of a beholder killed with a gourd by Xenk xddd 36:20 It is because she is a barbarian who both have more health than any other class d12 per character level , next ones are Fighter, Paladin , BloodHunter(Critical Role class), Ranger with d10. Plus also having a thing that while they are raging they take half damage from Bludgeoning, Piercing and Slashing damage, so from any physical sources. So that allows her to tank and shrug off those hits
There are 4 dungeons and dragons movies the first made in 2000 is considered horrible with fans the next 2 had nothing to do with wizards of the Coast the parent company of dungeons and dragons but are very Lord of the rings adventure style
I know that you can't show every scene and every full sequence... but I did notice a severe pattern of NEVER finishing any sentence. I don't thing any single spoken sentence was finished in this reaction. I get that copyright is harsh... but damn.
My favorite character is the lady on the parole board who goes "oh, Jarnathan!" That delivery always makes me chuckle.
Her name is Jil Torbo, she is a halfling like Holga's ex husband Marlamin (the short guy played by Bradley Cooper). Halflings are commonly known as "hobbits" in the Lord of the Rings franchise, so basically Jil and Marlamin are the same race as Frodo and Bilbo Baggins.
I love that moment too!
By her tone I felt this wasn't the first time. It had "oh Jarnathan! AGAIN?!?" Energy 😂
MY CABBAGES!!
“She’s throwing potatoes!”
Explaining the question about Zia (Edgin's wife): in D&D there is afterlife and it's actually tangible (with certain spells like Plane Shift even the living can travel there). There are so-called Outer Planes. Depending on character's Alignment their soul ends up in the correspondent Outer Plane when they die. Those include various ideas for afterlife throughout many different cultures: there's Christian/Dantesque Seven Heavens, Limbo and Nine Hells; Classic Olympus, Elysium, Tartarus and Hades; Buddhist Nirvana, Norse Asgard, etc.
Zia, as a kind and gentle person was definitely Good aligned. I would assume Neutral or Chaotic Good to be married to Edgin (himself a Chaotic Good character). So her afterlife destination would probably be Elysium, Beastlands, or Arborea. With her connection to dragonflies (a dragonfly appears many times over the movie whenever Zia is referenced) my bet is on Beastlands, as the name reveals, a realm of all manner of animal spirits as well as many wilderness deities and souls of people who lived close to nature (many good druids and rangers end up in Beastlands after death).
So yes, Xenk was right in a way, bringing her back would take her soul from the afterlife (again, presumably Beastlands) back to Prime Material Plane were she willing (as per rules of resurrection spell the soul has to be willing to come back). The appearance of dragonfly moments before Edgin's decision was Zia's message letting him know she's happy in the afterlife and that she approves of bringing Holga back instead of her.
I completely agree. Very well put. Thank you. 👍
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As a newbie dnd dm, really thanks for that explanation 👌🏻👌🏻
@@cristianstark9411 It's always a pleasure to see rising new DMs in the community :)
I recommend the Forgotten Realms wiki for more lore and info about the setting (that's where I double check my tidbits just to make sure it's still in that mind palace of mine intact ).
It's extremely useful if you want to share more with your players (e.g. if they find themselves in a library).
100% lore accurate and very well said. Solid work.
Edgin actually told the truth and used the Tablet to bring back Kira's 'Mom'. She was a baby when her mother was killed and Holga is the only Mother Kira ever knew. I like that he always keeps his promises, whether he intends on keeping them or not.
Actually nope since he did held Xenk's hand even though he told he wouldn't
14:48: And that is one of the most important roles the bard plays in an adventuring party. Inspiration, and keeping despair at bay. :)
This little moment might actually be my favourite in the whole movie, because it manages to say a lot about the characters, about DnD, about storytelling, and about life in general. Plus it's a catchy tune :)
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Oh, as to your sequel question: The world that this is set in is called the Forgotten Realms. It's had adventuring material written for it for 50 years. There are many many series of novels and game modules that could be seeds for future stories. I think that's what the D&D brand people would love to see a series based on.
And note that the folks behind Vox Machina have a TV and Movie deal set up with Amazon, and so that's still a D&D world, but it's the setting of Exandria.
The main D&D people have other settings that may become properties as well. There's a great series of books called Dragonlance that some people are trying to get made. There are just a lot of settings that have a lot of history to pull from for good story ideas... Anyway, that's what we can look forward to if they found this profitable enough.
Good to know! Thanks so much for answering that question of ours 😀
This movie is a lot of fun. The graveyard sequence is fantastic lol
Fun but forgetable
@@boboboy8189 Not for me, I still remember so much of it; my favorite moment was the first moment Doric the Druid turns into an Owlbear while in horse form
That "speak with dead, 5 questions" is every tabletop "speak with dead" ever.
in dungeons and dragons there are a number of resurrection style spells, most require expensive regents like diamonds, but there is always a limit to time since death or special cases where lower level resurrection type spells won't work in the case of the red wizard's dagger, which required a much higher level spell overcome it's effects. There is also a spell called reincarnation If I remember right which has less restrictions but the person's soul randomly finds itself in a totally new body.
To answer your question about the wife living her "new life", people absolutely have souls in D&D, and when you die your soul can pass on to one of many "planes of existence." So she could definitely be living a new life, but not in a reincarnation sense.
Thanks for answering that question for us 🙂
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 The D&D cosmology is not a single universe, it is a multiverse. Without going into too much detail it is organized like this:
- the Elemental Planes like the Plane of Earth or the Plane of Fire, also known as the Inner Planes, which are basically the foundation of reality
- the Etherial Plane which connects the Inner Plane to the Prime Material Plane, also known as one of the transitional planes
- the Prime Material Plane, which is basically the "normal" universe with stars, planets, star systems, galaxies and the like
- the Astral Plane, connecting the Prime Material to the Outer Planes; the other transitional plane
- the Outer Planes which each represent a specific alignment (like Lawful Good or Chaoric Evil).
In addition there's a huge amount of so-called demi-planes which are usually located within the Etherial Plane.
Next important thing to know is that gods exist in the D&D cosmology not only as abstracts but as very real, active beings. Each god has their own realm located somewhere in the cosmology listed above (be it as a demi-plane, secluded part of one of the actual planes etc). People who where devoted followers of a specific god usually end up in the realm of their god after their death. People who don't end in a specific god's domain usually travel to the plane that represents their alignment (which means all souls not travelling to a god's realm travel to the Outer Plains).
To understand this you need to know the alignment system of D&D. The alignments are made of two parts: One is the morality aspect of Good, Neutrality (as in neither good nor evil) or Evil; the other one is Law, Neutrality (as in balancing order and Chaos) and Chaos. This means there are 9 alignments in total.
So a Chaotic Evil soul would travel to the plane representing that alignment: The Abyss. A Lawfull Evil soul would travel to the plane representing that alignment: The Nine Hells etc.
At the beginning, the dragonborn on the council actually said, "But we approved your pardon!" Meaning that if they had waited to hear the results before attempting a risky escape plan, they'd have known it wasn't necessary... which is like 50% of D&D players when they plan before the DM gives them key info 😂
The panther thing in the maze was a displacer beast. In the game, their ability to project an illusion of themselves in a different location translates to them being *much* harder than normal to hit. Like... frustratingly harder. It doesn't matter how strong your attacks are if 75% of them miss 😑Can you tell I've had a bad encounter with them before? 😂
As far as I'm aware, most D&D settings don't have a concept of reincarnation per se. But they usually have an afterlife that the spirit passes onto after death, which is what I think Xenk was referring to.
Sofina is a Red Wizard of Thay, and her red robes are what she always wears, however, she can use illusion to make them appear as other colors so that she's not immediately attacked by anyone else in Faerun.
For elaboration , Thay is big into slavery and undead as labor. When the slaves are getting old they tend to kill them and make them undead. And that’s day to day. The whole “liches run the place” tends to mean you get a whole bunch of more creative atrocities like that horn getting brainstormed all the time. I mean if your going to kill the slave to make them a soulless husk anyway; why not scoop out the soul first to use? So many possibilities as long as you don’t mind the screaming. Or enjoy the screaming.
Needless to say anywhere else on Faerun Thay is considered a PROBLEM.
As a person who became a dnd player thanks to this film. I REALLY want a sequel!!
I think this movie is BRILLIANTLY written and paced.
Like the quick but impactful sweeping vistas... it doesn't drag, but you get the sense of the magical and vast world they are in.
The final emotional scene? It was set up through the ENTIRE movie, without any mention or instance being heavy handed or plodding. And once you see her stabbed you know what's going to happen.
But it manages to just GET you, with this brief but wonderful emotional story beat.
I can't rave enough about this movie, particularly when you think of other fantasy movies.
I didn't think this movie would make me cry I'll say that but wow was this an unexpected treat of a new favorite film!
Same
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Whoever thought of the pudgy dragon deserves an award and a raise. That whole scene had me falling over laughing and I can't say I've ever seen a dragon depicted that way anywhere else. Big points for originality 🙂
Themberchaud
Is a D&D NPC in the source books for quite the while. In the UNDERDARK there is a race of dark dwarves that use dragonsfire in their forges. So they capture a dragon and raise it, while giving it an endless amount of food, making the dragon fat. After a while when dragons mature they stop being able to be controlled and so can be killed or abandoned by the dwarves.
Themberchaud is an NPC (non-player character) that is from an Underdark based adventure called Out of the Abyss. I was so happy when they decided to add him.
Legend is Gary Gygax came out with Themberchaud during a play session, when a fat cat jumped on the table and started playing with the figurines.
yeah.. you can find decent bit of lore about him in youtube :)
@@mbpoblet Themberchaud was invented over a decade after Gygax left the company and is from a setting (Forgotten Realms)that only became an official setting after he left (before that Forgotten Realms was the private setting of another DM who worked for TSR, so no reason Gygax would be DMing it, especially since the default D&D setting before that was Gygax's own setting he used in his games; Greyhawk.)
I love that despite you can tell a mile away Edgin is gonna use the tablet for someone else than his wife, you still get completely wrapped up in the finale because the characters are so compelling.
That’s how you know they did a good job 🥲
"That thing" is called a Displacer Beast and is actually based on a "monster" from an old science fiction short story. It is effectively a six-legged panther with the ability to project its image where it is not.
My group calls them kitty whippens
As a kid I actually read the original short story. Let's see if I can remember right... it was a coeurl and the story was... Voyage of the Space Beagle?
(looks it up) Ha ha! Shaky memory got it right.
Why is the word "displacer" in its name
@@SilverScribe85 because It’s actual position is displaced from where you think it is
@@wtimmins OH! So, like...in the scene where it created that illusion of itself; that's what it implies?
Funny thing:
In D&D you have Wizards, who study books and have magic based on intellect, and Sorcerers, who have a more free-form use of magic based on charisma/ego/personal strength.
Simon, being a sorcerer, his magic is fueled by confidence and personality.
The narrative journey of him finding his confidence actually intertwines completely with game and setting elements. Hahahaa.
I love that you could see the script for this movie coming directly from someones tabletop campaign,
There are in fact multiple afterlives in D&D. Basically, they are separate planes that can sometimes be accessed by planar travel and are usually under a deities direct control. Which one you end up in really depends on who you worshipped and your alignment in life.
18:40 I love that this is the exact thing a DM would pull out of his ass after their players screw up like that!
Funfacts: For promotion for the films release, Edgin, Holga, Simon, Doric, and Xenk all had character stat blocks made for fans to use in an actual campaign. Additionally, one of the groups in the arena was the characters from an old D&D cartoon.
To answer the afterlife question, in D&D "standard" realms there's a very extensive and well-mapped multiverse theory with a very well-known afterlife process both to players/Dungeon Masters and for the people living in those worlds as well. Anyone in those worlds that's dedicated any amount of time at all reading arcane, religious, or even historical manuscripts in those worlds will know fairly well as well-trodden fact what awaits them. This is due to that people go back and forth from there all the time. Resurrections, while not common, exist, as well as planar travel between the planes of the normal world and roughly two dozen other planes of good, evil, and in between, many of which are destinations for the afterlife depending on the soul in question. Powerful adventurers, archmages, and religious champions consistently travel between these planes and interact directly with the deities and demideities that rule those realms and the souls of the dead found and communicated with as well.
In short, it's not even a religious or philosophical question about his wife's new life in the afterlife, it's just a fact of reality. Like talking about life as an adult after graduating school.
In the DnD settings basically every form of afterlife exists among the outer planes. When a mortal dies their soul is drawn into one of those realms (typically determined by whatever their faith/culture dictated but lacking that based on their moral alignment) where they assume a life that fits them. Some bond with the plane, some remain spirits drifting through the plane for eternity, some gain new bodies and live lives according to where they end up. So bringing someone back to life robs them of whatever afterlife they've earned for themselves which can be devastating especially for one whose been dead long enough to really adjust to their new lives.
15:32 For reference, all dragons in DnD have different breath weapons; gold and red dragons like Themberchaud breathe fire (or flammable gas in his case since he's probably way too out of shape to breathe fire naturally), while copper and black dragons like Rakor basically just vomit acid. Others include burping out poison gas for green dragons, while blue and bronze breathe lightning, and silver and white breathe pure freezing cold.
26:56 That would be a Displacer Beast: they have innate magic that allows them to cast illusory holograms of themselves, making them appear to be about a meter away from where they actually are - they're basically the best ambush predators in DnD.
Doric's owlbear beatdown at the end resembling the Hulk beating up on Loki was intentional. I can't remember the guy's name, but one of the producers on this movie had worked on MCU projects for a while, so the directors put that moment in as a little wink to him. As a longtime D&D player, I loved this movie. One of the things I think it did best was incorporating so much lore from the game while still making it very accessible to non-players. The 2000 D&D movie was basically just a generic fantasy movie with the D&D name slapped on it. I love that we got a bunch of monsters straight out of the game, including my all-time favorite the Displacer Beast. Probably the biggest deviation from the "rules" was Doric's shapeshifting, they gave her more flexibility with it. But all the "hardcore" players who got butthurt about that can go pound sand, because Doric was great, and that whole escape sequence from the castle was AWESOME. :)
"You are terrible!"
"I can be a bit naughty..."
Fun Fact: Rage Against the Machine guitarist Tom Morello makes a cameo during the Arena sequence.
What Script Fact: Regé-Jean Page improvised the scene where Xenk steps right over the boulder, barely even breaking his stride. Chris Pine then improvised the resulting narration.
Lost In Adaptation: Druid Doric (Sophia Lillis) repeatedly turns into an Owlbear, which appears to be her favorite form for fighting. According to the current official rules of the Dungeons & Dragons tabletop game, a druid cannot turn into an Owlbear. A druid can in fact only turn into a Beast (and eventually an Elemental), but the Owlbear is classified among the "Monstrosities" and a druid character cannot take the shape of those particular creatures.
Game Accurate Fact: The movie is set in the Forgotten Realms setting. All the spells used in the film, while largely unnamed, are all legitimate spells used in the Dungeons & Dragons. The overweight red dragon the party encounters in the Underdark is Themberchaud, a known powerful denizen of the Underdark. In an overhead shot as Edgin (Chris Pine) and Holga (Michelle Rodriguez) walk through town, you can see two rust monsters fighting over a scrap of metal, which serves as food for this species. The prison Edgin and Holga escape from is Revel's End. A prison built on a cliff-side overlooking the Sea of Moving Ice in the Frozenfar region of the North.
I don't know why but I hate that Doric uses a slingshot. I get that no-one uses a sling anymore and most people don't know what one is but I still find it very irritating.
Actually, the evaluators already approved their pardon long before Edgin and Holga escaped.
So...they put Jarnathan in danger for nothing
Edigen is a Bard and providing inspiration is what Bards do.
On 27:12, those characters are actually a reference to an 80's cartoon based on D&D, it is something of a cult classic. But still, thanks for watching this movie, it is a shame the people behind it they chose a poor time to release it as it came out a week before Super Mario, which did not help it at the box office, it is a very underrated film and much better then first believed.
just noticed that some of them kinda have their moments, showing what they do in like a single 1v1 with the dm like dorik transforming into a lot of animals in one go, holga fighting off the guards in the castle, and xenk with the undead
I LOVE this movie! I hope that it gets a sequel or another movie that takes place in the same universe or something because it’s fantastic!!
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Sequel was green lit as I remember, even if the box office wasn't that great. We will get another one.
there is an afterlife in D&D, several different planes of it, so he's asking Edgin if it's a good idea to pull her from where she has been after all this time. if she was good, which it seems like she was, she mayyy have gone to Celestia - kind of D&D heaven, and it's pretty epic there. As a player you can get to these planes while still living in the same way Greek heroes can travel to the heavens or the underworld in those old epic tales. It's usually a rather difficult feat. I've had a character that went to both the Abyss and Celestia as part of a universe-saving quest. Anyway, I think that's what Zenk is saying, if she's in Celestia, do you really want to bring her back here from peace and paradise? Having said that, D&D does have both the concept of resurrection and reincarnation, typically a result of either magical or divine intervention (i.e. there are spells that can do both of those things, they are typically high level and almost always rather costly, but also a deity could make either happen - aka the DM using a deity to do something in the narrative). And in the in-world canon of Faerun, some believe that reincarnation may happen naturally after a time.
I had hoped you would react to this movie, after seeing how much you enjoyed the trailer. And I hope it satisfied? I haven’t met anyone yet who dislikes it, and I hope I never do.
It’s a pity that RUclips only let you show snippets, but you got some good ones. I’m curious to know what some of your favorite moments and characters are. The moment that consistently gets me wheezing with laughter is the failed illusion in the courtyard. “What madness is this?!”
Those poor guards are gonna have nightmares for years after this
That was for sure the best moment in this. That and anything with Doric changing into the eagle puppy 😂
This was the first movie I went to theaters to watch in a long time. I wasn't disappointed.
The failed illusion bit *absolutely floored me!* XD
So glad you guys watched this movie! It’s so much fun! I think it’s great for both people who have played dnd and people who know nothing about it.
We thought it was a lot of fun 🙂
Went to see this with a buddy of mine who got me into D&D, had ourselves a little game of determining what subclasses and whatnot each character had.
- Edgin doesn't do much barding in the way of spells, and by his own admission, he "makes plans." So we both came up with the idea that Edgin isn't really a Bard, he's a Mastermind Rogue pretending to be a Bard!
- We decided Holga was a Berserker Barbarian (none of the other subclasses seemed to really click with her) and with the frequency she uses improvised weapons in a fight, she definitely has the Tavern Brawler feat.
- Simon's a Wild Magic Sorcerer. Pretty sure this was said and demonstrated in the movie. Not much else to say.
- Doric has to be a Circle of the Moon Druid, considering she's pretty much reliant on her Wild Shape to turn into an owlbear and mess people up. Circle of the Moon is the subclass you want for shapeshifting shenanigans.
- Xenk's a Paladin, for certain. He's straight-laced and loves justice (so pretty typical for your average Paladin), and we ended up deciding on Oath of Devotion since that particular Oath is standard for your "knight in shining armour"-style Paladins.
I mean, I agree that Doric is a Moon Druid, but something I've seen and heard a lot of people get wrong is something you got wrong too: In 5e, which I believe this movie is supposed to base it's rules of magic on, Owlbears aren't covered under Wild Shape. Wild Shape let's you turn into creature under the category of "Beast". Owlbears, in 5e, are "Monstrosities". A Druid could Shapechange into one, sure, but...not Wild Shape.
Edit: Nevermind, just read her wiki page, and she *does* Wild Shape into it...because of bullcrap...whatever. Apologies for incorrectly correcting you.
@@tomjones6733 Oh I'm well aware Doric shouldn't be able to change into an owlbear according to 5e's rules about Wild Shape. It's fine to take a few artistic liberties and bend a couple rules, I think, if you're making media about tabletop games. Maybe the DM was feeling generous to let Doric's player do that? Haha.
@@gladiatrixathena2756 Yeah, that's what I'm filing it under. The wiki page I found detailed the reasoning behind it, I just...disagree with it a tad. Oh well.
I’d love to see a Circle of Monsters druid subclass that let’s you turn into monstrosities
@@ryanpratt6993 I looked it up, apparently there's a homebrew one, however you have to have slain/helped slay the monstrosities first, so...
Every monster seen is in fact something you can find in D&D, heck I'm sure the fish that ate that baby has a stat sheet somewhere, and someone more crazy than I has probably already identified each of the spells used by every character in this movie. Basically with D&D all you have to know is that if you think "I wonder if someone has made mechanics for that to be playable in the game" the answer is yes, yes they have.
Also 17:17 Thats what we call Lich Ugly, for wizards to get their undead powers they gotta be smack by every branch on the way down to lichdom. Honestly it's on Thay for letting what so clearly a Lich help rule their government, but thats Wizard Hubris™ for ya
This movie had all the D&D tropes in it. It had intellect devourers and a displacer beast and a gelatinous cube and a mimic disguised as a treasure chest... the only way it could have been more on point would have been to have had the bard try to seduce the dragon.
I’m so happy y’all enjoyed the movie you’re reactions are great I had to put on in the background again ^^
It was a fun movie 😀
I love this movie, it feels exactly as a campaign with your friends and that is something I really cherish
If I were to find something I don't like it would be the fact that they did non-humanoid races with costumes instead of CGI.
Otherwise? Absolutely stellar.
A couple of notes:
-the pudgy dragon is Themberchaud; basically the dueregar (dark dwarves) periodically kidnap a red dragon hatchling and they keep it fed and trapped in their city as a living fuel for their furnaces, only to kill it before it grows too powerful to control... obviously Themberchaud managed to escape that fate and the result is... well... a chubby adult red dragon that is as goofy in its movements as much as its tanky.
-the panther is a displacer beast, a special kind of predator originally bred in the Feywild (the plane from whence most fey beings come from) as big game for cerimonial hunts and some managed to escape to the material plane. They are incredible hunters with the ability to, as you have seen, create a distortion in perception that causes 50% of the attacks directed at them to miss. The animals used in the Feywild to hunt them down are blink dogs.
Thanks for giving us more info on the pudgy dragon 🙂
When it comes to the afterlife in D&D, specifically the Forgotten Realms where this movie is set, there are a lot of different kinds of afterlives. Most often a soul is drawn to the realm of the god someone worshiped in life or the plane of existence that most aligns with the life they lived. Most commonly a person will go to one of the Celestial (heavenly) planes if they led a good life and either the Nine Hells or the Abyss if they led an evil life. Exceptional souls might even eventually become new angels, demons, or devils. So Xenk, being a paladin or holy warrior, would be especially cautious about pulling a soul away from their afterlife after so much time had passed. Hope this helps!
I love all your reaction videos but your D&D content is always among my favorite. I can't wait for season 3 of Vox Machia!
"But we approved your pardon!"
The actress who played the Red Wizard is Anthony Head's daughter and she's a beauty. Makeup was doing a lot there.
Michelle Rodriguez's character, Holga, is a Barbarian and when a Barbarian is Raging, they take all of the punches without blinking.
I don't know if anyone's said it or not but the panther creature was a displacer beast. as far as I know, they're pretty nasty but I don't think they use their tentacle-like appendages for the illusion they create by bending light. I remember something about special nerves somewhere on the body. or maybe this was a different type of displacer beast. I welcome being proved wrong.
A cool idea I’ve seen is having the same actors but playing different characters, representing the people playing these characters playing different characters
Dungeons and Dragons have multiple "heavenly" planes of existence where the deserving souls go and there is also reincarnation as well as resurrection.
To answer your question about death in the D&D universe: The world exists in the "prime material plane". This is where mortals are born, live, and die. That plane or realm is surrounded by other inner planes (the elements, shadow, the feywild, etc.) and many many outer planes (heavens and hells.) Each of the outer planes are tied to alignments: good or evil, lawful or chaotic, and the combinations. These other planes have residents of their own, like elementals, angels, demons, etc. That's the general setup of most worlds. Then, depending on the specifics of the setting, you die, your spirit gets judged, and goes to the outer plane where the spirit belongs - to be rewarded in a heavenly place with angels or sent to... a darker place where your spirit fits in to be tortured (or rewarded) as appropriate.
When someone does a raise dead, resurrection, or reincarnation spell the soul is called back from that outer plane and put in a reconstructed body. So if she's in her eternal reward, she might not want to come back. Other note: The soul knows who is trying to bring it back, so evil people can't revive good people to torture them, they can just decline and stay out there.
Last note: There's a revivify spell that can raise someone from the dead, but only in the first minute after death. (As seen on Vox Machina.) That's trying to get them before they get judged.
To all my fellow nerds, I know that's a very quick and dirty version, but I bet it's already too long for the usual watcher. 🙂
The hand battle between Simon and Sofina is actually their own Bigby's Hands. (Scanlan's Hand, for the Vox Machina reference.)
There is absolutely an afterlife in DND. The mythology and cosmology is very deep. A good person like Ed's wife is probably living an idyllic existence in a Heavenly place.
The Neverwinter guards are unusually competent
My plot for a sequence: The group now is faced by a threath that pure strength can't solve alone. They need to pull an "Ocean's Eleven" on somebody, and now they need a trickster. There is none available... except for a certain ex-lord of Neverwinter that is now jailed...
'Its a happy ending, im pathetic'
Honestly made me laugh but yea its a great movie with many call backs like the displacer beast, mimic, and gelatinous cube. (in order of appearance in arena)
18:45 - now you're thinking with portals
I really adore how Chris Pine's only real value in actual combat is to bonk the fuck out of people with his lute and he otherwise spends most of the movie running away from enemies.
He’s a bard and without acknowledging it in the movie, he provides inspiration to the party, which is what a lot of spells a bard casts are for in dnd. It was a pretty subtly clever move.
I have been binging many reactions to this dnd movie, yours is delightful and I can see that both of you deserve a good DnD game Experience, I would urge you try it you are both ideal candidates for a roleplaying game like dnd.
26:56 - a displacer beast. Maybe next film they'll add some blink dogs. 😊
Thank you Critical Role for making D&D popular again, and making this possible ;) Even the writers said thank you with the "fresh cut grass" line.
Some people claim they've "ruined" D&D
the fresh cut grass thing was actually just a coincidence
@SilverScribe85 some people also like ketchup on steak. Doesn't necessarily make them correct.
@@evlbzltyryeah, I'm pretty sure that the script for the movie was written pre-campaign 3. So it's just a coincidence. A good one! But just a coincidence.
Depending on your moral character, what god you worship, or your deeds on the material plane your soul goes to a different plane when you die
You must watch Puss in Boots the last wish, super awesome movie! Just dont watch spoilers before watching movie. By far one of my top 3 movies of all time💖
D&D is my Special Interest I run it constantly for friends and family and I absolutely adore this film.
I've always imagined living in the Forgotten Realms (the D&D setting the movie takes place in) and I love reading the novels set there too, Drizzt series being probably my favorite. This movie absolutely nailed the setting while also making a really good fantasy adventure anyone could sit down and love!
Also to promote the film they released a free adventure from one of their (at-the-time) upcoming books that is basically a prison break heist set in the prison at the beginning of this movie, Revel's End. I ran it for my sister, my partner and their sister before the movie came out and now we play regularly on Mondays xD (in our version of Revel's End, due to improv shenanigans, there's a chef with an Italian accent who serves pizza in the mess hall so at least the prisoners get nice dinner xD)
Also our game is set seven-ish years before the movie so in our last session I put Hugh Grant's Forge in the casino the party is stealing from. He's there to win what they are stealing through cheating at the game itself so he's gonna be a rival x3c
When I saw this movie I thought the first half was pretty rocky and I was considering not to finish. I'm glad I did, because I think they really stuck the landing.
Glad to see that you enjoyed this movie so much!
It was fun 🙂🥳
I think it's one and done for the main cast of characters but I think they can use a new cast with maybe a new setting. Smart move.
So I think what was meant with the Mother is in the Forgotten Realms the gods are very real, kind of like the Greek gods. Only they each have their own dimension where they rule. So if she was a good person, I believe the cosmology says her spirit would go to a paradise like heavenly realm. Neutral people go to the realm of the God of Death and stay there, and bad people go to the Hells. Well everyone gets judged by the God of Death, but you kind of get sorted and sent to other places.
So while resurrection is possible you are potentially ripping them out of paradise to bring them back, I think that's all the guy was saving. :)
When yiu are redirected in dungeons and dragons you loose a level, there are several ways to do it most involve at least a level 7 or higher spell the undead are a huge part of dungeons and dragons the main red wizard sofina was working for is a litch like voldermort
Future dungeons and dragons movies can have entirely different character and take place in different place dungeons and dragons was created in 1974 and is on its 5th edition so decades of lore
I loved this movie, so happy to see you've done a reaction of it
For the wizard the red robes are her orders uniform but she hides it in public as most people hate and fear the red wizards with good reason.
"Dungeons and Dragons 2: The Wrath of Jarnathan!"
In the worlds of DND and Pathfinder there is the concept of the cycle of reincarnation. the souls that die go to one of the 9 after lifes based on alignment. after a certain set of time, souls get cleansed of their past selves and return as new people.
Nice way of avoiding players resurrecting old characters. Dm: “sorry your character from the old campaign two days ago had his souls reset”
You might also like "Dudes and Dragons" which is a similar styled silly adventure.
Thanks for the vid. I liked the movie.
note; You two are great reactors, content streamers, and top-tier for relationship goals. You enjoy what you do, you love and enjoy each other's company and it shows.
I say that because I've noticed a lot of couples reaction channels over the years and most feel like one REALLY doesn't want to be there. Giving off the vibe that they're trying to pay attention and want to get it over with, but their partner talks way too much, pauses constantly, and/or talks over them when they do try to comment on what they're watching and they're trying hard but fail to not let it show that they're not enjoying any of it.
I've never seen or felt that vibe from you two and your vids are always enjoyable. You're great. You deserve all the things.
Much love and enjoy your weekend.
Bradley Cooper was such a fun surprise lol
And he was tiny…. Like a “Mini Cooper” which had to be intentional.
For more dungeons and dragons i recommended watching Runesmith's Basically dnd video's they are really funny and worth a watch
With regard to Edgin's wife, the world of the forgotten realms is known as a the material plane, but there are others, the inner planes of energy and elements, the outer planes of belief and ideology. When you die in this world your spirit goes to join your god or at least your most closely aligned belief, as represented on the outer planes. Its a thing in the game that yes you can cast resurrection, but the spirit you are trying to bring back to the material plane may decide not to come and prefer to stay where it is.
It’s a pity that the actor who played the necromancer Zastam was given so few lines. good actor.
Good luck with the puppy!!
ZZass Tam and the Red Wizards of Thay are still a threat to Faerun and it would just fit for Ed and his crew to interfere with those plans.
Fun fact! Michelle Rodriguez specifically trained up and put on about 75 lbs. in order to play this role. Watching her pull off those fight scenes I'd say her hard work really paid off.
Now one of my favourite movies
Before I comment, I think it's better to wait for Jarnathan to join
realize this is a bit late but if you're still interested in giving d&d a try, im happy to run a short campaign to give you both a taste
A little feedback; I do think you need to change your editing for movie reactions in a way so that it can show more of a reaction from you as opposed to just trying to show little clips of the plot playing out. People who watch the video likely have already seen the movie so we would rather see specific moments that would give a good reaction, than lots of little snippets that seemingly cause no reaction other than a smirk.
If you liked Hugh Grant in this, you should watch the movie the gentlemen Hughes great in that movie too.
Speaking of DnD reactions... Would love to see Vox Machina on the channel at somepoint down the road.
Great movie, glad you two got into and enjoyed it. Sad it didn't do the numbers though, but I still have hope.
Worth noting that as Vox Machina's setting was made up by Matt Mercer and they changed any D&D references just enough to avoid copyright (so monsters, gods, the names of spells etc.) for the show then Hasbro (who own D&D) don't see any of the money from that, so they may be more likely to try and force an ongoing franchise out of this movie (or just D&D in general) so they can get in on the interest in this sort of thing while it's there. They're currently trying to wring as much money out of D&D (the game) as possible since their other businesses aren't doing so hot recently...
She a Barbarian !! see DD players rules :)
mini cooper
was hoping you too would react to this one! so wholesome, love it :)
It's was so good! 😊😀
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 glad you both enjoyed it! it's always fun seeing you two guess stuff right and make fun jokes, keep the fun videos coming! wishing you two all the best ~
I honestly wasn't interested at first. Curiosity got the better of me and I'm glad it did. This had some good action, some good laughs, the graveyard, the illusion malfunction, and the ending fight were are just fun.
I’m in the same boat, I have very little knowledge of the D&D world, so I just wrote it off as a niche action film. Caved and watched it and I actually loved it.
14:00 Nope. Red Robe,shaved tattoed heads are one of Thayan Red Wizards signature mark. Those are evil wizards, necromancers, slavers, demon worshippers, practitioners of twisted experiments and mutations and etc etc etc
34:48 And here I guess is a picture of a beholder killed with a gourd by Xenk xddd
36:20 It is because she is a barbarian who both have more health than any other class d12 per character level , next ones are Fighter, Paladin , BloodHunter(Critical Role class), Ranger with d10. Plus also having a thing that while they are raging they take half damage from Bludgeoning, Piercing and Slashing damage, so from any physical sources. So that allows her to tank and shrug off those hits
There are 4 dungeons and dragons movies the first made in 2000 is considered horrible with fans the next 2 had nothing to do with wizards of the Coast the parent company of dungeons and dragons but are very Lord of the rings adventure style
You shouldn't stand in Xenk Yendar's way. He'd walk all over you if you stand in his very straight line 😅
she dies in every movie she is in. Going out as a bad ass female is sorta her specialty. Except this one. I am grateful she lives in this one.
the opening feels like a real D&D campaign, you suceed in your charisma check, but still go with the idiotic idea that has a 0.0001% chance to suceed.
Jonathon!
It was pretty good
I know that you can't show every scene and every full sequence... but I did notice a severe pattern of NEVER finishing any sentence. I don't thing any single spoken sentence was finished in this reaction. I get that copyright is harsh... but damn.