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I love that yacht. Absolutely gorgeous. Glad you survived all the mold, funguses and diseases. Breaks my heart when I see such a beautiful yacht in such horrific shape.
Can't tell you how relieved I was when you both said no to rebuilding any of those boats. You guys have done an amazing job on Odd! But those boats would be a waste of your time! Looking forward to watching you explore. Stay safe
Wise decision not to start such a demanding project. Although it would be nice to see you guys bring another wreck back to life, you will be better off going on with your travel projects and enjoy life while you can. There will always be another endeavor waiting around the corner.
Relax, explore, enjoy and have adventures. Most of all, have fun. Plenty of time later to do boat projects. You just finished one, and now it's time to see the world and share those experiences with us land locked types. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Duca, Roberta: I was the owner and captain of Fortuna (of Leith), the Bowman 57 when Hurricane Ivan. I was there when the hurricane hit Grenada, and also for the next hurricane that hit Grenada Emily, 9 months later. I can see why this isn’t the restoration project for you but would like to talk to you about Fortuna and an alternative future for her you may want to explore. If nothing else, I would love to share the story of this beautiful lady with you. Hope to connect! My husband and I have followed you from your start of renovation of Odd Life. Warmest Regards, Greta G.
Hi, Greta! We would love to hear more about the boat and your story with her and tell you what's gonna be her future. I love when youtube connect people. Thanks for reaching us out. Would you mind to send us an email to oddlifecrafting@gmail.com? Thanks a lot. Hope to hear from you soon.
When you were building your container home... I was hooked. The areas you found for storage was amazing and the way you designed the rooms... simple stunning. To me, every aspect of that build was well thought out and came from the heart. - Then you ventured off and bought an abandon boat. I was initially thinking you two somehow have you lost all of your cranium fluid. At that time, I was thinking that you lost one follower. But after seeing your passion and commitment to building your current boat... All I could say is WOW. I can only speak for myself. I have followed you and supported you in your venture with your current boat. If you want to upgrade to a bigger boat that I think will take at least - 30 months - to get sea worthy.... DO IT!!! Your video content has been spot on. And obviously has inspired many others to get hooked on your antics, personality, and lifestyle. From the very first moment of finding your current boat to sailing into hurricane territory, i have been with you. remember, it is your life, and yes, you might rely on some support from patrons, but it is still your life. Do what is right for you. Your real patrons will support you in your decision's no matter what it is going to be. Like i said, it is just my opinion, but I think you should march forward and continue your life ! ! ! Your passion drives me to follow you two.
Go Sailing! When we lived in the Caribbean there was a saying: Some guys sail 'em and some guys work on 'em. Your channel is a good brand because of your infectious enthusiasm for new places.
Some great boats -- the Bowman 57 was a gorgeous boat that sailed well. But if you restore it you still have an old boat from a company long gone. The Passport 47 is probably the best sailing boat, still in demand. But if the core is rotten and the interior is all rotten there is no value there at all. The Columbia is not in bad shape, but it is a very old design and Columbia was not considered a high-end boat in its day. You said at the end of the video that someone bought the Bowman -- I hope it can be restored. It is an elegant yacht. You were wise not to undertake restoration on any of the boats. It wold take months longer and far more money to restore the really sick Bowman. You would have to acquire the Columbia for peanuts to make a profit on it. Enjoyed the video -- very interesting to look at the boats and evaluate how to make some money from one of them.
Ssmart decision on all those boats. The only one that is salvageable would be a two year project. You have an amazing capable boat in Odd and have built a loyal following on youtube. Sail the world and we will follow along with you. My vote is for you to sail to the US, spend the winter in the Chesapeake and set off or wherever next sailing season. Besides, we want to see you again in Annapolis.
Thanks for touring the boats. Satisfying the curiosity of what they're like inside. Am enjoying your adventures exploring. I believe you're better off enjoying Odd and seeing places for a few seasons. Then maybe do some project. Stay safe.
Think about going to New England for the summer!! Long Island Sound, Newport RI, Block Island, Marthas Vinyard, Nantucket, Maine......short, easy sails between dozens of historic ports.... absolutely beautiful in the summer and a sailor's paradise!!! Then go back to the Caribbean in winter following hurricane season (like all the rich and famous people do!!) :)
Hi Roberta & Duca, Anything is salvageable, no matter how bad it is. Just Look at Yaba & Lahakai for example. As you say it just depends on what skills you possess to bring them back to life.
Hola! Duca and Roberta! Always wear good running shoes when you look at "abandoned" sailboats, so when you come to your good senses before it is too late, you can run like hell in the opposite direction! You just spent a few years completing a fantastic job of bringing Odd back to life, so why not just kick back and enjoy the cruising life for a while? Sent with the best wishes from world circumnavigators 1997 to 2014.
Hehe. Hi, Harry. We found out that we love doing projects and documenting it for RUclips. We love cruising but we think doing a little bit of work and sailing for a while is the best of both worlds 😁
I enjoyed the tour, very interesting and sad at the same time, I believe you’re making the right decision. Take a break you worked so hard the boat you have and it’s beautiful.
The second boat was the only one that even began to look like it might be worth any effort towards restoring it! The first and third boats I thought would be great for parts only. When you think about your time frame I'd look at parts only if anything. Have fun you guys!
Wish i could find something like it... ( the first boot) And the worst are on the bodem of the coean. She looks AMAZING! And the opportunity to have to rip out everything makes also place to upgrade to a modern outlay.
Run don’t walk away from all these boats. You have a great boat that has been painstakingly put back into beautiful shape. Having a metal boat with retractable keel is such a great combination and should not be underestimated. If you get “stuck” in Grenada and want to make some cash by part out one or two boats, OK fine, but don’t swap Odd for any of these.
Had me worried a bit. May have been a good idea. All those boats were complete trash. Some hardware may be salvageable that’s all. Travel on and enjoy life. Maybe you will find a boat that is workable later on. Best wishes to you both. From Georgia USA. 🤝
@@OddLifeCrafting when living on a small boat, everything has to justify its existence... not a lot of room for souvenirs that don't do double duty as something functional.
Hello vous deux. Je pense que avez pris une sage décision vu l’état catastrophique des bateaux visités. Continuer à profiter de votre Odd Life Crafting car vous avez rendu votre voilier réellement superbe.
YES...so glad to hear that it's a hard pass on the Caribbean restoration project! Go, have fun, learn French, explore, enjoy your time in Grenada...and thanks for taking us along! 😎⚓⛵👍
I can't believe he crawled into that mosquito infested boat! Lol ewwww, still itching from watching it. 😂 Thanks for bringing us on the tours though, now we know what those boats actually look like!!
You should come in Europe!!! There are many wonderful place to explore also here in Italy… North of Sardigna, Ponza, Palmarola, Capri, Amalfy coast, Sicily…. Just to mention few of them.
Projects always take more time then you want, you end up missing next sail season. Also you never know whats next and if there is time / oppurtunity to do what you really want. I come from Europa Netherlands and did some travel and projects in Europa. You will LOVE Europa. My advice will be come with the boat to Europa and sail as much coasts / islands as possible. You would love it here!
This is a great idea! I have never watched your channel before this video was recommended. I watch a lot of channels that refit boats and love them. I subbed hoping you do, but also to see more of your content. I hope you do get the boat and cannot wait to watch the videos! That 1st boat looks like a 2 year project though.
It's OK to look and assess, I like that you did it with a critical mind and with realistic expectations, you are right none of them could be done in 5 months (look how long Odd took and they are all in worse condition, Odd was nearly perfect inside), but if you didn't look you wouldn't know if you'd walked past a diamond or a chunk of brown coal, in this case they were brown coal, but now you know.👍It would have been more interesting if you show the asking prices for these boats.
The only thing about asking prices is that they're virtually Meaningless. You know as well as I do that many of those prices turn into dust when reality sets in.
Grenda does get hurricanes from time to time. Additionally, it is very expensive to import parts due to high tariffs. I was there a few years ago and just missed a tropical depression.
Thank you for sharing all. that you do... I think it is really really creative to start with WHERE (Granada) then into LANGUAGE (French?). Then a very courageous DEEP DIVE into wrecked boats. Almost entertaining. Not worth talking about details. More about bug repellant. So for me this post is so over the top I think of a proposal to actually help you with whatever project you choose. I am retired and I think that knowing how to speak Portuguese would be an adequate goal. All that Portuguese (language) offers to sailors. I think hanging around a boat yard in Granada might be an excellent adventure. So I was thinking helping you guys, working on learning the Portuguese language and being in Granada would be enough. But of course, just a thought. from here in New Hampshire. Best wishes. (I've been mostly over there with Sailing Yaba and they are well along with getting their project in the water. ). And so..... On and On and On..... ✨🌸✨
Y'all made the right decision. All of those boats will take way more resources than you will ever get out of them. I would rather see you enjoying the island life on the boat that you already spent years salvaging.
Roberta, Duca, parabéns pelo canal. Muito informativo sobre o mundo da Vela. Uma dúvida que eu tenho, O que vocês diriam sobre a diferença de manutenção que sofreram em SP e as opções que já viram no Caribe? Digo, o suporte que tiveram em SP são semelhantes ou a dificuldade é muito maior e mais cara? Parabéns pelo canal
Obrigada, Felipe. Caribe é muitoooooooo mais caro, tanto produto quanto mão de obra. Brasil com certeza vale muito mais. Esta semana precisamos comprar um fusível e o preço aqui é 7 vezes o preço do Brasil, compramos no mercado livre e um amigo vai trazer pra gente. Vantagens do Caribe: diferentes modelos de barcos e muitas vezes mais baratos que nos Brasil e diferentes produtos náuticos que não encontramos no Brasil, tipo kiwigrip como antiderrapante, selante da 3m (que dizem que é melhor que sikaflex mas custa quase o dobro do preço, mais de reais enquanto o sika é 140 reais). Pra barcos em trânsito a taxa aqui em Grenada por exemplo é 2,5% de importação mais uma taxinha que se paga pro despachante, enquanto no Brasil é 100% mais o despachante. Acho que estas são as principais diferenças. Espero ter ajudado ☺️
@@OddLifeCrafting Nossa, muitíssimo obrigado pela atenção. Poxa, sou de São de Paulo e acompanho vocês desde quando estavam no Guarujá e sempre quis passar naquela marina para tentar uma aproximação melhor com o mundo náutico. Ainda pretendo dar um de curioso e conhecer melhor a marina. Abs
@@felipeamorim2900 Lá é bem legal. Tem o café da Camila dentro do Pier 26 que tem lanchinhos e cafézinho. Podes dar uma volta pelo lugar e tomar um cafézinho, ou uma cervejinha, hehe.
@@OddLifeCrafting puxa, legal saber que tem um cafézinho lá. Eu pensei que fosse algo meio fechado, apenas para quem estava com barcos. Vou tentar passar lá para tomar um café e aproveitar para espiar os veleiros que tem por lá. Obrigado pela dica
One thing to consider with any GRP hull that has been standing with fresh water in the hull (rainwater. it is more aggresive than salt water)) is that their is a good chance that Osmosis has started to take place and that will be below the waterline (not good) and does not show up the same as the bubble effect in gel coat that is visible when the anti-fouling and any growth has been cleaned off. Use a small hammer to tap the hull laminate to hear if it sounds hard or dull sound if it is beginning to take on the likeness of soggy blotting paper.
I think it would be cool to rehab one of these boats and bring it up on a peice of lane and dig a big hole and put the boat in and fill it back in so it looks like the baot is on the water but in the ground on land and make it a vacation rental. That be really cool.
Hola, aproximadamente que precio tienen los botes que mostraron? cuanto creen que sería la inversión para hacerlos navegables? Hace años quiero navegar por el Caribe, aún no tengo bote, un saludo desde Colombia.
de hecho, nos asociaríamos con la marina porque estaríamos mucho tiempo en el astillero mostrando el lugar y la región, entonces tendríamos un descuento. No puedo decir cuánto sería el valor para las personas que quisieran comprar el barco. Puedes contactar a Spice Island Marine para ver.
You made the right decision!!! Those boats were toast. Maybe you could have scrapped one or two and sold off the parts. In fact maybe you should check them out for a power windlass for yourselves.
The Cost's alone will be horrendous for spare parts and you will struggle to get things on time and at reasonable prices. I think another idea is Freelance as an engineer to the Sailing Charter companies and offer services to fix in use Charter boats that need work doing to bring them back up to standard for the next Sailing season. or something along those lines
Thank you guys for responding back to me, and thank you for all your videos they keep me looking forward to a future on the water, keep up the great videos,
Great idea on the old boat 😵💫. I could smell it from here in Australia. I can see how nice she was once. I think as you say that with time, skills and money...I like the 57' boat, if it could be stripped to the hull and everything rebuilt. BTW, there's no way I'd go into one of those wrecks without proper shoes, like you did at first.
I think one of the reasons you see so many "abandoned" boats is that the logistics and prices of doing repair work there are astronomical! EVERY part needs to be shipped in by either boat or plane and what might cost $100 elsewhere may cost double or triple that on Granada.
Hey y'all! Enjoy the summer doing what you do, bringing smiles to me and I can't speak for others but I'm sure there are a few out there smiling too! I'm glad not to see you bust you tails working all summer. Hurricane Ivan, we got a lot of him here, (Mobile Alabama), after he passed through the Caribbean. Then the next year we got a lot of Katrina too (2005). Back to back Hurricanes are not fun!! Happy to see your getting a new dinghy. But yours still looked good. Not like the one Plukky just left with Freedom. I bet it still smells like fish!🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏❤🇺🇸🇧🇷⛵👣🤗🤙
The layout only matters if the interior does not need to be totally removed. Smaller is better if one is restoring a boat for themselves but bigger is better if restoring to sell... to a point. There is a thing like too big to market. All of those boats are a lot of work.
You better really love the heck out of where you're at.I figure it would take 3 or 4 years hard work for one of those boats. And I bet materials are high there. Just a thought, good luck on what ever you decide.
Only if you have a couple million to drop on a COMPLETE refit for a boat from a dead manufacturer. That would be a labor of love for someone that appreciates them. Selling it for a profit is completely out the window at that point, and the quality of work you can expect in the Caribbean is less than acceptable for people in other parts of the world.
It's kind of amazing to me that these yards hold onto junk like this. I fill in part time for a boat salvage company in Washington state, USA and a number of the boats we scrap are in much better shape than most of these. Some of which have been underwater. They're not seaworthy anymore and most of the time the contract requires that they be scrapped and cannot be sold or traded. Parts can be salvaged but they have to be disposed of.
Sometimes they still have owners and the boatyard can’t do anything with them. Sometimes it’s still on justice until the boatyard can have them because the owners don’t pay the boatyard anymore… there are so many reasons… I (Roberta) hate seeing boats like these ones with no one taking care and I would love “to clean” the boatyards, but sometimes there is nothing we can do to fix it. 😞
You two definitely have that “Je nes sais quoi” as the French say “that undefinable, elusive quality that charms everyone”… #godblessu #godblessus #godblessusa🇺🇸
I agree with Duca, if you can get the boat/boats cheaply or gifted to you then strip the damaged one for parts to keep or sell to renovate the other boat.
The rebuild season is definitely two years before selling on. But the prettify season could be a few months I guess. Either way, run afterwards and don't look back.
Hi guy's. Duca i have a challenge for you about french language : make a all episode in French ! Are you ok ? You know i'me french and i 'll be very please to make it. So lets go now ! See you soon. Denis
YES if you are doing any type of ocean going. You need a bigger boat. But looking at the boats you showed...well they are in need of much work. And in the Caribbean much more $$$ then in Brazil. But ODD is a great boat but if you venture any farther then what you have, best to have a bigger vessel. Best to you both we have been with you from the start.
I was born in Finland, I spoke Finnish, Little Swedish and German. We moved to Australia and on my first shopping trip I want to buy a sleeping bag. I could not believe the shop assistant could not understand me, until I realized I talked to her in for languages. Even I could not understand myself.
Even parts that look solvable on first side on boat one like the switch panel will have all contacts corroded, the winches will have rusted bearings and gearing.
I already speak French (besides English, Spanish and Portuguese), but I am learning Dutch with another known app. Would love to see Odd sailing into Lisbon some day.
Good decision. Many sailors want their next boat to be bigger. Each of ours got bigger over the years. Its not always the best decision, especially if you plan to continue without more crew. still an other great video.
Why don't you just do a remodeling project on odd. Galley, or enclose the wheel house, make drop down sides so when you're sailing water doesn't get everything wet. That would be a good project for 5 months. Be safe stay healthy enjoy
They said bigger is better, but! More time to fix, more things to buy, more effort to restore it. Because it reminds me how long you've reconstructed the first boat, that's a long one, but then this one looks even better because of the size and it looks bigger and looks accomodating with ur freinds
Yes. Thats how you’ll expand your channel. Too many channels of just nice couples sailing. People what diversity and anticipation of you completing your next project
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Actually I’ve noticed an improvement. You can’t be hard up for money if you’ve taken this project on. Good luck 😉
When it comes to a “quick restoration “ of a sailboat in any Caribbean island, the word RUN 🏃 comes to mind!
Yep.
Run and don't look back!
RUN quick, you mean.
Run away again
@@lavagnolli
Faster than a speeding bullet.
I love that yacht. Absolutely gorgeous. Glad you survived all the mold, funguses and diseases. Breaks my heart when I see such a beautiful yacht in such horrific shape.
Can't tell you how relieved I was when you both said no to rebuilding any of those boats. You guys have done an amazing job on Odd! But those boats would be a waste of your time! Looking forward to watching you explore. Stay safe
Wise decision not to start such a demanding project. Although it would be nice to see you guys bring another wreck back to life, you will be better off going on with your travel projects and enjoy life while you can. There will always be another endeavor waiting around the corner.
not much left from that boat ... that deck rot is epic!
Relax, explore, enjoy and have adventures. Most of all, have fun. Plenty of time later to do boat projects. You just finished one, and now it's time to see the world and share those experiences with us land locked types. Cheers from Winnipeg.
Duca, Roberta: I was the owner and captain of Fortuna (of Leith), the Bowman 57 when Hurricane Ivan. I was there when the hurricane hit Grenada, and also for the next hurricane that hit Grenada Emily, 9 months later. I can see why this isn’t the restoration project for you but would like to talk to you about Fortuna and an alternative future for her you may want to explore. If nothing else, I would love to share the story of this beautiful lady with you. Hope to connect! My husband and I have followed you from your start of renovation of Odd Life. Warmest Regards,
Greta G.
I understand Fortuna has been sold-happy to hear it.
Hi, Greta! We would love to hear more about the boat and your story with her and tell you what's gonna be her future. I love when youtube connect people. Thanks for reaching us out. Would you mind to send us an email to oddlifecrafting@gmail.com? Thanks a lot. Hope to hear from you soon.
When you were building your container home... I was hooked. The areas you found for storage was amazing and the way you designed the rooms... simple stunning. To me, every aspect of that build was well thought out and came from the heart. - Then you ventured off and bought an abandon boat. I was initially thinking you two somehow have you lost all of your cranium fluid. At that time, I was thinking that you lost one follower. But after seeing your passion and commitment to building your current boat... All I could say is WOW. I can only speak for myself. I have followed you and supported you in your venture with your current boat. If you want to upgrade to a bigger boat that I think will take at least - 30 months - to get sea worthy.... DO IT!!! Your video content has been spot on. And obviously has inspired many others to get hooked on your antics, personality, and lifestyle. From the very first moment of finding your current boat to sailing into hurricane territory, i have been with you. remember, it is your life, and yes, you might rely on some support from patrons, but it is still your life. Do what is right for you. Your real patrons will support you in your decision's no matter what it is going to be. Like i said, it is just my opinion, but I think you should march forward and continue your life ! ! ! Your passion drives me to follow you two.
Go Sailing! When we lived in the Caribbean there was a saying: Some guys sail 'em and some guys work on 'em. Your channel is a good brand because of your infectious enthusiasm for new places.
U and that wooden judge hammer 😂 "i think this is all rotten, watch out!" Junps up and down. 😂😂😂
Some great boats -- the Bowman 57 was a gorgeous boat that sailed well. But if you restore it you still have an old boat from a company long gone. The Passport 47 is probably the best sailing boat, still in demand. But if the core is rotten and the interior is all rotten there is no value there at all. The Columbia is not in bad shape, but it is a very old design and Columbia was not considered a high-end boat in its day. You said at the end of the video that someone bought the Bowman -- I hope it can be restored. It is an elegant yacht. You were wise not to undertake restoration on any of the boats. It wold take months longer and far more money to restore the really sick Bowman. You would have to acquire the Columbia for peanuts to make a profit on it. Enjoyed the video -- very interesting to look at the boats and evaluate how to make some money from one of them.
Let's just sum up with HELL No!
Ssmart decision on all those boats. The only one that is salvageable would be a two year project. You have an amazing capable boat in Odd and have built a loyal following on youtube. Sail the world and we will follow along with you. My vote is for you to sail to the US, spend the winter in the Chesapeake and set off or wherever next sailing season. Besides, we want to see you again in Annapolis.
Thanks for touring the boats. Satisfying the curiosity of what they're like inside. Am enjoying your adventures exploring. I believe you're better off enjoying Odd and seeing places for a few seasons. Then maybe do some project. Stay safe.
Think about going to New England for the summer!! Long Island Sound, Newport RI, Block Island, Marthas Vinyard, Nantucket, Maine......short, easy sails between dozens of historic ports.... absolutely beautiful in the summer and a sailor's paradise!!! Then go back to the Caribbean in winter following hurricane season (like all the rich and famous people do!!) :)
Hi Roberta & Duca, Anything is salvageable, no matter how bad it is. Just Look at Yaba & Lahakai for example. As you say it just depends on what skills you possess to bring them back to life.
So glad you came to your senses 😊
Hola! Duca and Roberta! Always wear good running shoes when you look at "abandoned" sailboats, so when you come to your good senses before it is too late, you can run like hell in the opposite direction! You just spent a few years completing a fantastic job of bringing Odd back to life, so why not just kick back and enjoy the cruising life for a while? Sent with the best wishes from world circumnavigators 1997 to 2014.
Hehe. Hi, Harry. We found out that we love doing projects and documenting it for RUclips. We love cruising but we think doing a little bit of work and sailing for a while is the best of both worlds 😁
I really look forward to your videos! Duka. You are super funny and Roberta, love your smile!
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I enjoyed the tour, very interesting and sad at the same time, I believe you’re making the right decision. Take a break you worked so hard the boat you have and it’s beautiful.
The second boat was the only one that even began to look like it might be worth any effort towards restoring it!
The first and third boats I thought would be great for parts only.
When you think about your time frame I'd look at parts only if anything.
Have fun you guys!
I read that this year will be El Niño again. Take care of yourself, my wife and I love to watch you very much)
Have fun where you're at enjoy the scenery and each other time you spend together is precious.
Wish i could find something like it... ( the first boot)
And the worst are on the bodem of the coean.
She looks AMAZING!
And the opportunity to have to rip out everything makes also place to upgrade to a modern outlay.
You know you want to go to Annapolis to wait out the hurricane season!!! LOL!😂
Run don’t walk away from all these boats. You have a great boat that has been painstakingly put back into beautiful shape. Having a metal boat with retractable keel is such a great combination and should not be underestimated. If you get “stuck” in Grenada and want to make some cash by part out one or two boats, OK fine, but don’t swap Odd for any of these.
Had me worried a bit. May have been a good idea. All those boats were complete trash. Some hardware may be salvageable that’s all. Travel on and enjoy life. Maybe you will find a boat that is workable later on. Best wishes to you both. From Georgia USA. 🤝
Love all your videos get to see all these places without ever going there keep them coming .Duca and Roberta y
Awesome job!
Is that your NYSE gavel you are using to tap hulls???
Yes. 😁 I hit the gavel, check it out ruclips.net/video/x_4yDdnSiAk/видео.html
@@OddLifeCrafting when living on a small boat, everything has to justify its existence... not a lot of room for souvenirs that don't do double duty as something functional.
Hello vous deux. Je pense que avez pris une sage décision vu l’état catastrophique des bateaux visités. Continuer à profiter de votre Odd Life Crafting car vous avez rendu votre voilier réellement superbe.
Surveying boats is like smelling perfumes. After the fourth one, you can’t remember the first.
Visit the ABC islands during hurricane season. In particular, Bonaire is super relaxed and fantastic diving.
YES...so glad to hear that it's a hard pass on the Caribbean restoration project! Go, have fun, learn French, explore, enjoy your time in Grenada...and thanks for taking us along! 😎⚓⛵👍
I'm so glad that you didn't launch into refurbishing an old boat.
Now you have 5 months to install a washing machine on ODD!
Cheers from Alaska
Beautiful sailboat ⛵️ but need to work and bring in very good condition. Thanks for sharing Greetings from beautiful Hawaii islands
Babel is brilliant I brushed up on my Italian as I go to Italy from England about 3/4 times a year now that I'm retired.
In a month we already noticed that our French is improving a lot. We are really happy with the results 🥰 thanks for the feedback
I can't believe he crawled into that mosquito infested boat! Lol ewwww, still itching from watching it. 😂 Thanks for bringing us on the tours though, now we know what those boats actually look like!!
You should come in Europe!!! There are many wonderful place to explore also here in Italy… North of Sardigna, Ponza, Palmarola, Capri, Amalfy coast, Sicily…. Just to mention few of them.
Projects always take more time then you want, you end up missing next sail season. Also you never know whats next and if there is time / oppurtunity to do what you really want. I come from Europa Netherlands and did some travel and projects in Europa. You will LOVE Europa. My advice will be come with the boat to Europa and sail as much coasts / islands as possible. You would love it here!
Ya know - you might be onto something with that "dry AirBnB" idea 💰💰💰 I love the videos!! Safe Sailing!!
This is a great idea! I have never watched your channel before this video was recommended. I watch a lot of channels that refit boats and love them. I subbed hoping you do, but also to see more of your content. I hope you do get the boat and cannot wait to watch the videos! That 1st boat looks like a 2 year project though.
Hey guys, I am also learning French. But as Duca used to say I am taking “baby steps”. Hahah…see you in Europe, guys! Hehe, cool episode, btw!
It's OK to look and assess, I like that you did it with a critical mind and with realistic expectations, you are right none of them could be done in 5 months (look how long Odd took and they are all in worse condition, Odd was nearly perfect inside), but if you didn't look you wouldn't know if you'd walked past a diamond or a chunk of brown coal, in this case they were brown coal, but now you know.👍It would have been more interesting if you show the asking prices for these boats.
The only thing about asking prices is that they're virtually Meaningless.
You know as well as I do that many of those prices turn into dust when reality sets in.
@@Sommers234 More for getting a gauge on the price of boats in that location, but in that respect I'd be happy with a link to the broker too.
This is the Roberta and Duca that I have been following for the past few years. Whatever you decide, go for it!
I love boats with a garden on deck😂😂😂
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Grenda does get hurricanes from time to time. Additionally, it is very expensive to import parts due to high tariffs. I was there a few years ago and just missed a tropical depression.
A lot of good advice, I would add that being that you are flipping it, you could hire out some of the work. If you get the boat cheap enough.
We would be refitting the boat together with friends. Thanks for the advice ☺️
Hey, great channel, I’m amazed that folk leave so much personal stuff behind! So they expect to return but life gets in the way?
Thank you for sharing all. that you do... I think it is really really creative to start with WHERE (Granada) then into LANGUAGE (French?). Then a very courageous DEEP DIVE into wrecked boats. Almost entertaining. Not worth talking about details. More about bug repellant. So for me this post is so over the top I think of a proposal to actually help you with whatever project you choose. I am retired and I think that knowing how to speak Portuguese would be an adequate goal. All that Portuguese (language) offers to sailors. I think hanging around a boat yard in Granada might be an excellent adventure. So I was thinking helping you guys, working on learning the Portuguese language and being in Granada would be enough. But of course, just a thought. from here in New Hampshire. Best wishes. (I've been mostly over there with Sailing Yaba and they are well along with getting their project in the water. ). And so..... On and On and On..... ✨🌸✨
Y'all made the right decision. All of those boats will take way more resources than you will ever get out of them. I would rather see you enjoying the island life on the boat that you already spent years salvaging.
I love your video beautiful place and good people ,friends and you 😊
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Roberta, Duca, parabéns pelo canal. Muito informativo sobre o mundo da Vela.
Uma dúvida que eu tenho, O que vocês diriam sobre a diferença de manutenção que sofreram em SP e as opções que já viram no Caribe? Digo, o suporte que tiveram em SP são semelhantes ou a dificuldade é muito maior e mais cara?
Parabéns pelo canal
Obrigada, Felipe. Caribe é muitoooooooo mais caro, tanto produto quanto mão de obra. Brasil com certeza vale muito mais. Esta semana precisamos comprar um fusível e o preço aqui é 7 vezes o preço do Brasil, compramos no mercado livre e um amigo vai trazer pra gente. Vantagens do Caribe: diferentes modelos de barcos e muitas vezes mais baratos que nos Brasil e diferentes produtos náuticos que não encontramos no Brasil, tipo kiwigrip como antiderrapante, selante da 3m (que dizem que é melhor que sikaflex mas custa quase o dobro do preço, mais de reais enquanto o sika é 140 reais). Pra barcos em trânsito a taxa aqui em Grenada por exemplo é 2,5% de importação mais uma taxinha que se paga pro despachante, enquanto no Brasil é 100% mais o despachante. Acho que estas são as principais diferenças. Espero ter ajudado ☺️
@@OddLifeCrafting Nossa, muitíssimo obrigado pela atenção. Poxa, sou de São de Paulo e acompanho vocês desde quando estavam no Guarujá e sempre quis passar naquela marina para tentar uma aproximação melhor com o mundo náutico. Ainda pretendo dar um de curioso e conhecer melhor a marina.
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@@felipeamorim2900 Lá é bem legal. Tem o café da Camila dentro do Pier 26 que tem lanchinhos e cafézinho. Podes dar uma volta pelo lugar e tomar um cafézinho, ou uma cervejinha, hehe.
@@OddLifeCrafting puxa, legal saber que tem um cafézinho lá. Eu pensei que fosse algo meio fechado, apenas para quem estava com barcos. Vou tentar passar lá para tomar um café e aproveitar para espiar os veleiros que tem por lá.
Obrigado pela dica
One thing to consider with any GRP hull that has been standing with fresh water in the hull (rainwater. it is more aggresive than salt water)) is that their is a good chance that Osmosis has started to take place and that will be below the waterline (not good) and does not show up the same as the bubble effect in gel coat that is visible when the anti-fouling and any growth has been cleaned off. Use a small hammer to tap the hull laminate to hear if it sounds hard or dull sound if it is beginning to take on the likeness of soggy blotting paper.
I’ m learning Portuguese 💪🏼 since 3 years because I work for a Brazilian company.
Legal! 😁
I think it would be cool to rehab one of these boats and bring it up on a peice of lane and dig a big hole and put the boat in and fill it back in so it looks like the baot is on the water but in the ground on land and make it a vacation rental. That be really cool.
Hola, aproximadamente que precio tienen los botes que mostraron? cuanto creen que sería la inversión para hacerlos navegables?
Hace años quiero navegar por el Caribe, aún no tengo bote, un saludo desde Colombia.
de hecho, nos asociaríamos con la marina porque estaríamos mucho tiempo en el astillero mostrando el lugar y la región, entonces tendríamos un descuento. No puedo decir cuánto sería el valor para las personas que quisieran comprar el barco. Puedes contactar a Spice Island Marine para ver.
Saw inside that big boat. Couldn't watch any more...came straight to the comments. Sounds like wisdom shall prevail
The old boat you are considering looks like a 3 to 5 year refit project and tons of money. Best Wishes on your decision.
Roberta, votre accent français est parfait 👌👌👌👌👌 Très sage décision de laisse tomber le projet de réfection de ces voiliers. Bon vent 👋👋👋
Merci ☺️
IMPREssionante como sua parceira olha para voce,Pode ser ai a chave do sucesso, Uma grande mulher, Rarrissima!!!!!!
😂 That first boat only needs 2 things.
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A good insurance policy, and a match .💥
Absolutely,,,,,Another “Finally” opportunity and a great size for global cruising. Go for it!!
You made the right decision!!! Those boats were toast. Maybe you could have scrapped one or two and sold off the parts.
In fact maybe you should check them out for a power windlass for yourselves.
The Cost's alone will be horrendous for spare parts and you will struggle to get things on time and at reasonable prices. I think another idea is Freelance as an engineer to the Sailing Charter companies and offer services to fix in use Charter boats that need work doing to bring them back up to standard for the next Sailing season. or something along those lines
We're was that marina, i would be interested in that 47ft. I know it had a ton of water in it but maybe it could be saved
I have been looking for a nice boat to save
It’s spice island marine in grenada
Thank you guys for responding back to me, and thank you for all your videos they keep me looking forward to a future on the water, keep up the great videos,
Great idea on the old boat 😵💫. I could smell it from here in Australia. I can see how nice she was once.
I think as you say that with time, skills and money...I like the 57' boat, if it could be stripped to the hull and everything rebuilt.
BTW, there's no way I'd go into one of those wrecks without proper shoes, like you did at first.
Would love to see you do another project, that last one is a huge project.
The Bowman 57? Nope ... RUN AWAY! The centre cockpit boat looked really good!
I think one of the reasons you see so many "abandoned" boats is that the logistics and prices of doing repair work there are astronomical! EVERY part needs to be shipped in by either boat or plane and what might cost $100 elsewhere may cost double or triple that on Granada.
Hey y'all! Enjoy the summer doing what you do, bringing smiles to me and I can't speak for others but I'm sure there are a few out there smiling too! I'm glad not to see you bust you tails working all summer. Hurricane Ivan, we got a lot of him here, (Mobile Alabama), after he passed through the Caribbean. Then the next year we got a lot of Katrina too (2005). Back to back Hurricanes are not fun!! Happy to see your getting a new dinghy. But yours still looked good. Not like the one Plukky just left with Freedom. I bet it still smells like fish!🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙏❤🇺🇸🇧🇷⛵👣🤗🤙
No problem! Don't worry it will buff right out
The layout only matters if the interior does not need to be totally removed. Smaller is better if one is restoring a boat for themselves but bigger is better if restoring to sell... to a point. There is a thing like too big to market. All of those boats are a lot of work.
You better really love the heck out of where you're at.I figure it would take 3 or 4 years hard work for one of those boats. And I bet materials are high there. Just a thought, good luck on what ever you decide.
YES! Bowmans are beautiful yachts. Start now, you will never regret it. 57' is a nice ocean going size too. Go on, I dare ya!!
Only if you have a couple million to drop on a COMPLETE refit for a boat from a dead manufacturer. That would be a labor of love for someone that appreciates them. Selling it for a profit is completely out the window at that point, and the quality of work you can expect in the Caribbean is less than acceptable for people in other parts of the world.
It's kind of amazing to me that these yards hold onto junk like this. I fill in part time for a boat salvage company in Washington state, USA and a number of the boats we scrap are in much better shape than most of these. Some of which have been underwater. They're not seaworthy anymore and most of the time the contract requires that they be scrapped and cannot be sold or traded. Parts can be salvaged but they have to be disposed of.
Sometimes they still have owners and the boatyard can’t do anything with them. Sometimes it’s still on justice until the boatyard can have them because the owners don’t pay the boatyard anymore… there are so many reasons… I (Roberta) hate seeing boats like these ones with no one taking care and I would love “to clean” the boatyards, but sometimes there is nothing we can do to fix it. 😞
Interesting, cheers guys!
Bowman 57 is a beast! Go for it!
You two definitely have that “Je nes sais quoi” as the French say “that undefinable, elusive quality that charms everyone”…
#godblessu
#godblessus
#godblessusa🇺🇸
🥰 merci
I agree with Duca, if you can get the boat/boats cheaply or gifted to you then strip the damaged one for parts to keep or sell to renovate the other boat.
I didn't know that the hurricane season lasted for two years or so...
Hurricane season is usually June until November. The vacation rates usually go down in May - November.
The rebuild season is definitely two years before selling on. But the prettify season could be a few months I guess. Either way, run afterwards and don't look back.
Hi guy's.
Duca i have a challenge for you about french language : make a all episode in French !
Are you ok ?
You know i'me french and i 'll be very please to make it.
So lets go now !
See you soon.
Denis
Hehehe. Not at this point yet. It’s still really hard to know how to pronounce it correctly and to conjugate verbs 😁
YES if you are doing any type of ocean going. You need a bigger boat. But looking at the boats you showed...well they are in need of much work. And in the Caribbean much more $$$ then in Brazil. But ODD is a great boat but if you venture any farther then what you have, best to have a bigger vessel. Best to you both we have been with you from the start.
The only idea of a new project in your hands is amazing. That would be great to show you once again renewing the love for a boat. Come on.
8:28 lol is that the gavel from the nyc stock exchange
If so that's a huge flex lol
It is 😁 ruclips.net/video/x_4yDdnSiAk/видео.html
@@OddLifeCrafting your a mad man lol
And I'm here for it cant wait to see what yall do next
If nobody try to restore it right after the hurricane damage, imagine now that are trees growing all over the boat 😂
Sail yourselves over to chaguramus in Trinidad and I'm sure you'll find something you can work with.
I was born in Finland, I spoke Finnish, Little Swedish and German. We moved to Australia and on my first shopping trip I want to buy a sleeping bag. I could not believe the shop assistant could not understand me, until I realized I talked to her in for languages. Even I could not understand myself.
only way to save that boat is a cabin top tear sown to the hull & complete refit/build? (Bowman 57)
Even parts that look solvable on first side on boat one like the switch panel will have all contacts corroded, the winches will have rusted bearings and gearing.
I already speak French (besides English, Spanish and Portuguese), but I am learning Dutch with another known app.
Would love to see Odd sailing into Lisbon some day.
veel succes
Good decision. Many sailors want their next boat to be bigger. Each of ours got bigger over the years. Its not always the best decision, especially if you plan to continue without more crew. still an other great video.
If you want to buy, look at the Vitter's 92 foot "Carmella". Great boat. Good to charter with. Keep Odd. Charter both.
Stick with Odd, She is so beautiful!!!!
Now that they have this boat finished I just jump in now and then ! But on the build I would be right there at the beginning !
Why don't you just do a remodeling project on odd. Galley, or enclose the wheel house, make drop down sides so when you're sailing water doesn't get everything wet. That would be a good project for 5 months. Be safe stay healthy enjoy
The hull of the bowman 57 doesn’t have a core so it could be stripped and sold as a bare hull.
It was sold to a fisherman that is gonna use the hull lead for fishing 😁
if you were to start another boat project, youde have to make sure you had the support crew and tool options you had on odd.
They said bigger is better, but! More time to fix, more things to buy, more effort to restore it. Because it reminds me how long you've reconstructed the first boat, that's a long one, but then this one looks even better because of the size and it looks bigger and looks accomodating with ur freinds
Молодцы круто хорошая идея восстановить лодку! Привет из России!
22:04 it had a german owner. looks like a nice project boat
Yes. Thats how you’ll expand your channel. Too many channels of just nice couples sailing. People what diversity and anticipation of you completing your next project