as a former resident of Opal Creek and Jawbone Flats this fire devastated me. George Atiyeh was my first Oregon boss and a true mentor, his death in the fire happened on my birthday. Being hired there was my first Oregon job... Anyone remember Tincup?
the 2020 fires in Oregon were absolutely insane. I live in a burn area now. It was truly a perfect storm of intense wind, super dry hot weather and obvioulsy multiple ignition sources to all the labor day weekend fires. I can really relate to these people with losing so much, and having the land and trees around you completely torched and looking like a bomb went off. Ive never been through something like this before, it was really stressful and also fighting the fire with no help was terrifying. Glad those days are over at least.
This area of the Cascades was and is a very sacred place to me, we were there on the other side of opal lake at Detroit lake the night and morning of that fateful fire. It's like a dream .. that we can't wake up from. May healing come
Yes. A lot was lost. Given time things will change and new trees will grow. We need to wait until then. Thank you for your update on this wonderful place.
Opal creek was on my list of places to see. I'm sad for all that was lost in the fires across the state last year and this year. I hope I will get to see Opal creek in the future after the forest has healed.
It's a wonderful to see that the new growth is starting already. I hadn't seen any footage or pictures or anything of what the fire is done I talk to people but I personally haven't seen anything. Hopefully it's a lot sooner that we can start visiting these areas again.
this is my first time seeing what it looks like now.. my heart is broken im a new father and wanted to take my son here... This brings tears to my eyes
i’ve only got the chance to come here two times in the recent years the trees and bridges are all destroyed and the roads are very unstable. sad to see this beautiful place gone
Mother nature can be cruel, but what she takes she gives back too. We only see the devastation not the rebirth of a wonderful new butterfly, going to be beautiful someday soon thank you ALL stay safe
seeing our Oregon Forests burn year after year is heartbreaking as the Green State hopefully we remain Green & the habitat, wildlife survive and thrive
Hello. I lived in Salem until I was 26. I hiked the Opal Creek area many times. Fire is devestating. As a long time Forester. I worked 35 years trying to suppress fires. I am retired now. Looking back. I have a different view. Human caused fires and fire that threaten structures, should be extinguished immediately. Natural, lightning caused fires, well. It's exactly what the term, Natural is.
Agreed! Isn’t the issue the fact that fires have been suppressed so much in order to appease the timber companies that now we have these infernos that burn fast n fierce? I used to hike that area from 97-2010… then it - like everything in Oregon became a Zoo… no more solitude… These days instead of timber companies we have so called “social” media that has turned the natural areas into “bucketlist” commodities I think what people are really trying to fill is the hole left from both an existential and ontological crisis of meaning….
Ummm, Probably not for many many years plus even if it was opened up, whats the point, The forest is roasted and there isn’t much to see or experience like there once was.
i live about 2 hours north of the 200,000 acre fire and i remember i could smell the smoke and we would wake up in the morning to our cars covered in ass 2 inches thick the you could see if fly through the sky..
A forest is just lik a lawn if left alone it will over grow and summer sun will kill and dry and one sperk and its gone .wint minamal rhinning it will withstand fire with small help but that means spacing and clearing groundd xover so fire cant jump rree to tree .im a trained fire fighter as see this every year .you dont have to strip ut bur bad to leave it alone
Had a 'defensible space' been cleared around the buildings prior to the fire? Everything combustable within 150 yards should have been cleared knowing that forests eventually burn. The one building which survived seems to have been in a clearing.
Correct I needed a time to heal and everything is temporary. That’s why logging would’ve prevented this fire. If anything it would’ve minimized it. Login done correctly is a great benefit to our schools and our roads because that’s where 100% of the tax dollars taken from logging go And Oregon that is 100% where we are lacking is great education and good roads to great drive on. So instead of us doing it correctly in our country, we ship it to another country where they can just deplete the Earth and pollute everything and we could still get the wood so for all the jobs that are sent overseas and all the people that are in the streets, this is what happens when companies ship stuff overseas just to try to save a few dollars for their overhead instead of paying honest wages. Mother Earth pays us back for what has happened to her where those jobs went to be done unearthly! Just because they were shipped overseas that is still part of mother Earth. She is vast but she remembers.
Kate stopped firefighters not one mile from my home from taking off in helicopters that were ready and waiting to fight that fire when it was managable because she said it was federal land and therefore not her responsibility. All of that because she dodnt like the president in office at the time.
This is horrible and because old-growth forests can take a few human generations or more to grow.. that’s not exactly temporary Ohgie, also we can’t really afford to lose anymore old-growth woodland. Ancient forests mitigate climate change ..
I think the whole goal is to collapse small businesses and proceed with corporate monopolies and then suppress wages with both fiscal and monetary policies as well as adding labor market distortions via open borders. In the end, the winners are always: DADDY government And Corporate “america” Losers: People that are not afraid of real actual work and building their own life with prosperity Overall I think the owl was used as simply a scapegoat. Owls are fairly robust and can easily move to find habitat. I used to watch two separate great horned owl families do just fine - one was in a small patch of forest by a landfill and another was in suburbia… they do just fine as long as they can find food
It’s sad that this large fire was caused by the environmentalist and the Democrats it burn for a month and a half before it exploded and burn the large area and the towns.
Don't fret. The first will be back. Maybe not for us in this time but to the forest, it's only a matter of weeks till it's better. Even 100yrs ain't but a couple weeks to the earth.
A lot of pinecones won't drop seeds without a fire. Looks horrible to us. But this was just a haircut for the forest. But don't mourn over lost buildings. Those are just things. And things will never last. Enjoy them while they're there and don't forget them when they're gone. But now u have a chance for a new beginning. There are no endings. Just new beginnings
I spent a lot of time exploring that area back in the 70's. I fell in love with the natural beauty of the place. It feels like I lost a dear friend.
Every thing in nature is enduring even after a devastating fire. It’s amazing that some of those older trees survived. We need to protect old trees.
as a former resident of Opal Creek and Jawbone Flats this fire devastated me. George Atiyeh was my first Oregon boss and a true mentor, his death in the fire happened on my birthday. Being hired there was my first Oregon job...
Anyone remember Tincup?
Seeing such old trees burn breaks my heart
Yes! It will grow again for future generations.
We Love Oregon!
This was one of my favorite places. I'm thankful I got that experience twice but it is heart breaking to see it now.
the 2020 fires in Oregon were absolutely insane. I live in a burn area now. It was truly a perfect storm of intense wind, super dry hot weather and obvioulsy multiple ignition sources to all the labor day weekend fires. I can really relate to these people with losing so much, and having the land and trees around you completely torched and looking like a bomb went off. Ive never been through something like this before, it was really stressful and also fighting the fire with no help was terrifying. Glad those days are over at least.
Those ancient growth trees were truly magnificent….. 1000 years from now, I wonder if any people will here to enjoy the new ones.
This area of the Cascades was and is a very sacred place to me, we were there on the other side of opal lake at Detroit lake the night and morning of that fateful fire. It's like a dream .. that we can't wake up from. May healing come
Saw Detroit and the forest at our roadtrip last September...a special atmosphere.
Yes. A lot was lost. Given time things will change and new trees will grow. We need to wait until then. Thank you for your update on this wonderful place.
We likely won’t see it back to how it was in our lifetime
wait?? you got centuries of waiting to do
@@SeanStewart88that's a selfish mentality. Nature is more than one lifetime.
Agreed. It's crazy to me reading so many comments that are so negative about a natural process.
@@U.s-epa I’m just saying we won’t see it like how it was in our lifetime. How is that selfish? I’m very aware that it will grow back eventually.
Just so devastating. Thank you for this video.
Opal creek was on my list of places to see. I'm sad for all that was lost in the fires across the state last year and this year. I hope I will get to see Opal creek in the future after the forest has healed.
It truly was one of the most beautiful places
It's a wonderful to see that the new growth is starting already. I hadn't seen any footage or pictures or anything of what the fire is done I talk to people but I personally haven't seen anything. Hopefully it's a lot sooner that we can start visiting these areas again.
Great work. I went here as a kid many times. Wonder when it will open again.
Amazing how much green and trees still standing
this is my first time seeing what it looks like now.. my heart is broken im a new father and wanted to take my son here... This brings tears to my eyes
We appreciate, with true value, when it's lost.
I live near Opal creek. Miss being able to hike the trails. Terrifying fire that year.
Glad I got to explore most of the abandoned mines here before the fires.
Amazing work. Thank you
For years I wanted to see this place and in 2020 I finally made it. Really sad, but I hope it's decent for the next generation.
I was there the day before it burnt. I loved opal and all of north fork.
I love my Oregon love to explore it 😎🌲🌲🌲
Been waiting on this, thanks
i’ve only got the chance to come here two times in the recent years the trees and bridges are all destroyed and the roads are very unstable. sad to see this beautiful place gone
The last 30 seconds made me click on like. So true. So true.
Mother nature can be cruel, but what she takes she gives back too. We only see the devastation not the rebirth of a wonderful new butterfly, going to be beautiful someday soon thank you ALL stay safe
Two words come to mind...Paradise lost. One can only imagine how the "Indians" felt as their lands were over run and taken...
You're a fool
Is the three pools area still closed?
seeing our Oregon Forests burn year after year is heartbreaking as the Green State hopefully we remain Green & the habitat, wildlife survive and thrive
Nice trees were left standing
Wish i knew kow to contact the owners.i have a 1880 saw mill minus powerplant that would be great for site like this.
all the struggle to save this place.. jesus TCBoyle got it right in Friend of the Earth
So sad to see those old buildings gone
Hello. I lived in Salem until I was 26. I hiked the Opal Creek area many times. Fire is devestating. As a long time Forester. I worked 35 years trying to suppress fires.
I am retired now. Looking back. I have a different view. Human caused fires and fire that threaten structures, should be extinguished immediately. Natural, lightning caused fires, well. It's exactly what the term, Natural is.
Agreed!
Isn’t the issue the fact that fires have been suppressed so much in order to appease the timber companies that now we have these infernos that burn fast n fierce?
I used to hike that area from 97-2010… then it - like everything in Oregon became a Zoo… no more solitude…
These days instead of timber companies we have so called “social” media that has turned the natural areas into “bucketlist” commodities
I think what people are really trying to fill is the hole left from both an existential and ontological crisis of meaning….
HE reminds us every now & then that this WORLD is TEMPORARY and HE'S PERMANENT. ❤️🙏
Any timeline for when it might reopen?
Ummm, Probably not for many many years plus even if it was opened up, whats the point, The forest is roasted and there isn’t much to see or experience like there once was.
in 500 years
Old mining places like this would bring sawmill in..the lumber would shore up mine and build housing and anything else
Logging is good to help manage the forest. People died with spotted owls and other animals. Please manage our state.
i live about 2 hours north of the 200,000 acre fire and i remember i could smell the smoke and we would wake up in the morning to our cars covered in ass 2 inches thick the you could see if fly through the sky..
I just want pass through and see the mines in the area.
Let Oregonians have their land back and we would have that camp back in no time
A forest is just lik a lawn if left alone it will over grow and summer sun will kill and dry and one sperk and its gone .wint minamal rhinning it will withstand fire with small help but that means spacing and clearing groundd xover so fire cant jump rree to tree .im a trained fire fighter as see this every year .you dont have to strip ut bur bad to leave it alone
Unreal
Had a 'defensible space' been cleared around the buildings prior to the fire? Everything combustable within 150 yards should have been cleared knowing that forests eventually burn. The one building which survived seems to have been in a clearing.
Correct I needed a time to heal and everything is temporary. That’s why logging would’ve prevented this fire. If anything it would’ve minimized it. Login done correctly is a great benefit to our schools and our roads because that’s where 100% of the tax dollars taken from logging go And Oregon that is 100% where we are lacking is great education and good roads to great drive on. So instead of us doing it correctly in our country, we ship it to another country where they can just deplete the Earth and pollute everything and we could still get the wood so for all the jobs that are sent overseas and all the people that are in the streets, this is what happens when companies ship stuff overseas just to try to save a few dollars for their overhead instead of paying honest wages. Mother Earth pays us back for what has happened to her where those jobs went to be done unearthly! Just because they were shipped overseas that is still part of mother Earth. She is vast but she remembers.
Government did this
And not a one of them is putting this on the person who could have stopped the fire.
Kate stopped firefighters not one mile from my home from taking off in helicopters that were ready and waiting to fight that fire when it was managable because she said it was federal land and therefore not her responsibility. All of that because she dodnt like the president in office at the time.
This is horrible and because old-growth forests can take a few human generations or more to grow.. that’s not exactly temporary Ohgie, also we can’t really afford to lose anymore old-growth woodland. Ancient forests mitigate climate change ..
this is nothing but loss. yes the forest may recover....in 500 years
They should have allowed more logging instead of giving the community problems & trying to kill there jobs about a owl among other things
I think the whole goal is to collapse small businesses and proceed with corporate monopolies and then suppress wages with both fiscal and monetary policies as well as adding labor market distortions via open borders.
In the end, the winners are always:
DADDY government
And
Corporate “america”
Losers:
People that are not afraid of real actual work and building their own life with prosperity
Overall I think the owl was used as simply a scapegoat.
Owls are fairly robust and can easily move to find habitat. I used to watch two separate great horned owl families do just fine - one was in a small patch of forest by a landfill and another was in suburbia… they do just fine as long as they can find food
Should have been logged in the 80s.
It’s sad that this large fire was caused by the environmentalist and the Democrats it burn for a month and a half before it exploded and burn the large area and the towns.
Don't fret. The first will be back. Maybe not for us in this time but to the forest, it's only a matter of weeks till it's better. Even 100yrs ain't but a couple weeks to the earth.
A lot of pinecones won't drop seeds without a fire. Looks horrible to us. But this was just a haircut for the forest. But don't mourn over lost buildings. Those are just things. And things will never last. Enjoy them while they're there and don't forget them when they're gone. But now u have a chance for a new beginning. There are no endings. Just new beginnings