Wogan's Radio Fun - Julian and Sandy - Kenneth Williams - BBC1 - 30-12-87
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2016
- Merry christmas to all of my subscribers old and new!
Here's a xmas upload, an excerpt from a special edition of Wogan looking back at the golden age of BBC radio, and who should turn up but Julian and Sandy from Round The Horne!
Did you notice..... So funny ..... Without swearing in a single line.. true legends back in the day xx And sadly missed x
Jules and Sandy were fabulously funny.. Hugh Paddick was so clever and funny and together with the great Kenneth Williams, they were so good together.. we miss the old style humour these days..
My father introduced me to Round the Horne when I was in my 20's. I've loved it ever since and never tire of listening to it. So nice to see Hugh and Kenneth doing a turn on screen. I smiled from beginning to end.
Kenneth was very unique, there was nobody like him nor will there ever be, he was a genius
How is he 'very unique'?
He certainly was
Just love him. Truly a one off.
Asexual, gay, ashamed of his sexuality, never had a partner, battled depression, successful early career in theatre but then frustrated & trapped by his Carry On film image. Astonishingly well read. Amazing raconteur, full of endless funny anecdotes. His flat resembled a monks cell, his cooker remained in the cellophane. I'd say that was pretty unique. 😁. The book of his diaries is a fantastic read.
@@DaveInBridport Very distinctive in his speech and mannerisms.
This is superb and this is one of the rare examples of Jules and Sandy's brilliance on television. On Round the Horne they were loved by millions of radio fans
There are still old queens like these two 🤣🤣🤣
Became a fan of Kenneth Williams when my father would take me to see the Carry On movies, beginning with the first one in 1958 when I was just seven years old. Of course the humor was over my head, but I could see it was funny, and of course my dad would be in stitches.
Much later on, in 1987, I moved my own family to eastern France where I discovered that one could pick up BBC Radio 4. Williams was still a panelist on Just a Minute and I felt so lucky that I could enjoy his performances again. He was extraordinarily talented and richly funny.
What a marvel it is today for baby-boomers to have this easy access to so many of the things we grew up with to enjoy again as often as we wish, like Kenneth Williams. Such a delight.
Wogan blew the line,he should have said, did you manage to drag yourself up on board ! I met Hugh Paddick one evening and he was the most gentle kind soul ,the bar was full of youngsters and nobody had a clue who he was, such a lovely man.
Yes Hugh was happy to be gay & had a partner..
Yeah he muffed that - it hinges on 'drag up', not drag, doesn't land otherwise. There was another where they're cast adrift and the gag was 'Did you start to crack? - Well, yes, we had no moisturiser! lol, love Hugh Paddick, love Kenneth and Wogan was also a treasure, just not in this league that night.
Williams is a genius. Such fluency and without hesitation or mistake. Superb
You're absolutely correct! Mr Williams was one of the best comics and has not really been surpassed by anyone (IMHO). And his diction was incredible.
Without hesitation, perhaps, but I'm not sure you could say the same about repetition or deviation.
Effortless 😊
@@AdmiralJota Tee hee hee my thoughts exactly.
He definitely had a way with double entendres, like Sid James but more flaire.
I saw Kenneth Williams once years ago in Harrods with his mother..Loved the way he was looking around..Very theatrical!
Proper old pro's, it takes many years to get as polished as these two, the framework for producing talents like these is not here today, so glad we have the recordings and this
So amazingly funny to actually see them rather than just hear them. True talents. Love it
Wonderful what more can one say.RIP Kenneth and Hugh💐
Round the Horne. Best radio programme ever, in the anglophone world.
Best after Hancock's Half Hour.
Brilliant. When comedy really was comedy
😂
In his own words that was
🎉Fantabulosa🎉
❤
I was born in 1947, and have wonderful fond memories of all the radio comedy programmes, nothing will ever replace them. Pure fun, and Sunday’s afternoons around the radio was the family entertainment.
amazing they did that on radio when it was against the law to be openly gay in those days gay ment something else
@ann partoon - I believe it was generally thought okay to be “queer” if you worked in the theatre/entertainment industry at that time - but, otherwise, it was definitely NOT alright to “come out” and, if you did, you did do at your own peril.
@Here and There - Oh, indeed they were! Permanently in the closet .... but there were certain compensations, even though it “dared not speak its name”! Even so, I have to confess that, as a teenager in the late 1960’s my admiration for Kenneth Williams and his unique brand of comedy was unbounded.
the huddlines was shit
We shouldn't forget also The Navy Lark, back to back brilliant shows - Ronnie Barker starting out as Able Seaman Goldsteam.
Sunday dinner time..The wireless on..Round The Horne..The highlight was Sandy and Julian..Just fantabulosa..Lovely memories.
Let's not forget that Hugh Paddick also played, in the show, ageing juvenile Binkie Huckaback, in Noel Coward'ish parody sketches, with Betty Marsden's Dame Celia Molestrangler.
I know
I know you know ...
@@tortysoft
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I know you know I know
(Betty emphatically) Yes. I know.
That’s the wonderful thing about us. It’s all unspoken.
3 amazing people all missed😭😭😭
Listened to Round the Horne every Sunday lunchtime without fail. Nobody here seems to remember that RTH was an evolution of Beyond Our Ken (broadcast 1958 -1964) Paddick and Williams played Rodney and Charles later evolving into Jules and Sandy.
"Did you manage to drag yourself on board?" "No...just casual wear..." I can't! LOL!!!
Priya P however, Wigan managed to get his line wrong. The original was "Did you manage to drag yourself up?", which is snappier and a better set-up.
Priya P me too, I fell about at that one
Did you manage to drag yourself up on deck?
@@DavidAndTheDog Ah! ahaha That makes more sense. It had gone over my head with Wogan's terrible setup!
@@ocbyn Better yet!
Wonderfully camp! Round the Horne and Beyond Our Ken were favourites in their day.
Please take me back to that year x
Me too!
All of them now sadly passed on, Kenneth, Hugh, Terry, the BBC, all of them long gone
CallitHowISeeIt Never to be replaced. Very sad. The bbc was once worth the licence fee. Not any more.
@bar10 ml - As you say, definitely NOT worth the licence fee anymore.
I'd hardly say Wogan is long gone; the body's practically still warm
I got to know Williams through his incredible performances in Just a Minute……..and the Carry Ons. A one and only.
What a brilliant double act. Genuinely hilarious. X
I remember these two on the radio as a kid. It was hilarious and very risque for the time. I worked near oxford Street for a few years in the 84 ish period and would often see Kenneth Williams at a lunchtime going to the bank at the bottom of Rathbone Place in the Fitzrovia area of the west end. He was super talented.
So sad that just four short months later Kenny was dead...
Wogan seemed surplus to requirements !
Totally hilarious as was everything on Round The Horne.
@Kevin Stephenson - Yes, I seem to remember it entirely formed my sense of humour as a teenager!
Absolutely brilliant.
Good to see Jules &Sandy in your actual person, What a couple of Bona Omi palone’s loved round the Horne
HUgh Paddick and Kenneth Williams - wonderful!
British comedy at its greatest
Sadly never to be repeated
Except on Radio 4Extra occasionally !
Thank you so much for uploading this. I've only recently discovered Round the Horne, and Julian and Sandy really grabbed my heart. They were so perfect together.
Something vey timeless about these two!
And so bold! so bold!
I always thought of Terry Wogan as being pretty light on his feet. These two left him for dead.
Radio 2 used to play old comedies on Saturday afternoons in the '90s. I'd listen to Round The Horne, The Navy Lark, The Goons or Dad's Army while doing the ironing. I especially loved Julian and Sandy :)
Great shows, all of them
Absolute geniuses! Have to feel sorry for Wogan, he stood no chance.
No chance he did. Tell them about it, jules...
I never missed Around the Horne and Julian and Sandy were brilliant.
Those guys used to kill, absolutely hilarious.
Hilarious 😂heard lots of people say they loved the radio shows 👌I am only just discovering them and this wonderful Wogan show 👍
Still splendid - then, before then and 2022 too !
full marks to hugh paddick for being able to keep up with the comedy hurricane that was kenneth williams when he was in full camp mode. even the legendary hancock had to get rid of him coz he stole the show so well!
@Mike Brailsford - yes, good point!
After he passed in a tv special on his life many of his co-stars complained that Williams stepped on their lines. Even Hugh Paddick would offer a quiet sarcastic thanks to Williams when Kenneth stopped and realized he'd stepped on Hugh's lines.
Ken was amazing + annoying all the time. He had a briliant mind and knew everybody's lines years after those shows
@pipeandslippersman Not so much that Kenneth stole the show but that the fuuny voice "Snide" character Keneth would play had become too much of a cliche, brilliant though Kenneth was.
Williams would pass away just a couple of months after this appearance.
so lonely. 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Depressing. I actually knew him only through the carry on flicks. For once the tube did the right thing.
The show was recorded in October 1987 as it features Irene Handl, who passed away the following month.
What a treasure of a video!!! Thank you so much.
Why did they never give Julian & Sandy a sitcom? It would have been brilliant
Vicky Viking totally. Running a B&B or something.
I'd just worry it would get too diluted.
Over exposed, no, really,
I guess it was fine to act camp but frowned upon to actually be OUT
I don't think they could risk it people would catch on because believe it or not it never occurred to them that they were a gay couple how naive could you get in those days
Round the Horn, one of the best radio programmes ever, loved it/
Not to mention "Beyond our Ken" which came before or after "Round the Horne", was almost the same and just as funny!
@Chris Hebbron - As I recall, “Beyond our Ken” came first.
@@gregfolland8452 Thx. I think that "Round the Horn" series eventually ceased when Kenneth Horne died. In real life, he was a very successful businessman!
Chris Hebbron - Yes, Kenneth Horne ran a very successful business in those days. His sudden and unexpected death (I think it was from a fatal heart attack) came as a big shock to everyone at the time. Kenneth Williams continued thereafter with his own radio show called “Stop Messing About” (with Hugh Paddick & Joan Sims) but the series abruptly ran out of steam and it only aired on radio for a short season. There was an opinion, often expressed at the time, that Kenneth Horne had been the “magic ingredient” that had made the “Round the Horne” series so successful - and I really do believe that this was undeniably true!
@@gregfolland8452 Yes, his wonderful booming voice and the narrating style he took in the programme (very unusual) was the successful ingredient making it a success. What has always amazed me is how on Earth they got away with such a programme, with a very prudish BBC at that time!
Can’t get better than this 😂
just discovered Round the Horne via BBC Radio 4 extra on my Echo....love it!!!
TL Stev what's an 'echo' - are you referring to that thing from -m-z-n?
You'd do better if your actually did some research - do the 'heavy lifting' as it were, because, though you might be fortunate to have found Round The Horne that way, it's all based on metrics, what the data says, recommends.
I'd rather do my exploring on my own - let my tech know as little bit about me as possible, and just act as a media server.
An I l being clear? You find more when you do the work - and in this early day of people freely giving their privacy away, I don't use g---gl-, not any 'social' media (yes I do know this is owned by the same parties).
I only use my tech - not to find things that might interest me, but to deliver it on to my own (private) servers, from my own RAIDS of media storage.
I'm an old Yank. Older than Williams was when he passed. Tripped onto Round The Horn and love it. Hokey for sure but really great fun.
He's listening to it on the radio station via the Echo. It hasn't been "suggested".
Put in the work! 😆
Fantabulosa
Amusingly, RUclips offered to translate this into English.
I got to know about Round the Horne in my 20s. A colleague called Irene introduced me to them. She will never know how grateful I am. It's nice to see Hugh Paddick's face for once.
I went to many recordings of the show at the BBC Paris studios in Lower Regents St, It was recorded on a Monday lunch time so the audience was mostly students and OAP's
He was brilliant in an episode of black adder with Kenneth Conner. The 3rd season the prince regent. Years.
@@jrgboy Oh, how I envy you. I have a few CDs and cassettes of the recordings. Maybe you are one of the people I can hear laughing.
How fabulous was Kenneth Williams!!♥️💃🏿♥️💃🏿
Wonderful. So glad you preserved this.
I was in tears laughing at this, it has been too long since I've heard Julian and Sandy. This was brilliant.
Julian and Sandy spent the end of the day in their small house playing the piano, in fact they spent the whole evening in the cottage with an upright.
Oooh, Bona!
Bold!!
Ha, ha, ha, more than 1, vice la difference 😂🎉😅
Brilliant. And those Julian & Sandy sketches were surprisingly *bold* for the time. Hugh Paddick every bit as good as Williams.
those were the days of good comedy.
Absolutely marvelous i used to hear these on the radio in the 60s
One of Kenny's last tv appearances surely as he died April following year🎩😥
Thank you for this. I’ve just been reading about it and wondered if someone had put it on here, and you have!
Thank you so much for uploading this.
BONA!
They were the high spot of Round the Horne and were based upon real persons writers Sandy Wilson and Julian Slade. I still listen to them in 2022 on BBC Radio 4Extra 🤪
Lovely to see them
Julian and Sandy, and Rambling Sid Rumpo.... I loved those routines - a really good laugh! But the Fraser Hayes 4 band that Round the Horne was lumbered with were absolutely dire....
@Michael Summerell - Yes, the Fraser Hayes 4 and their close harmony singing were absolutely dire as you rightly say but, don’t forget, they also used the bright & brassy sound of Edwin Braden & The Hornblowers in these shows who’s contribution to the comedy sketches added a great enhancement!
Iirc the reason they all had singers on, even the two Ronnies on TV was that would mean the budget would then come from the Variety department not comedy. Variety having more funding
@@thatjohnm Yes same with TV's The Young Ones. though I don't believe the Frazer Hayes Four were in the studio, their bit was edited in..
@@gregfolland8452 Ah yes, Edwin Braden the "great 'airy fool"
@@chrishampton1981 - As Kenneth Williams described him! … 😂😂😂
I went to several recordings of Round The Horne, they were done at the BBC Paris Studio in London on a Monday at 12.30 so the audience was mostly students & OAP's, Kenny did the warn up, always the same jokes in the same order, after the final series the characters were revealed to be married & not gay - Hello I'm Julia & this is my friend Sandra... Also kudos must go to writer Barry Took who created the characters...
You have forgotten Marty Feldman, who apparently wrote most of the palari between Julian and Sandy.
Don't forget Marty Feldman who wrote with Barry Took
@@barrycross2585 sadly Marty Feldman left and the fourth and final series. It lost a bit of the wit and sparkle it had with just the two of them. That last series also coincided with the arrival of another round of BBC cuts and reducing the cast to four from five also made life difficult for the writers, as did the loss of the musical interludes. Don’t get me wrong, I still love the programme. Incidentally I met Hugh Paddick and he said Marty Feldman still wrote for the Julian and Sandy sketches. I would like to think he wasn’t spinning me a yarn!
@@Gwailo54 I used to really dislike the music interludes from the Frazer Hayes Quartet/Four Eddie Braden and the Hornblowers and Max Harris
@@richbryce5006 that was the way of the world back then. Variety was the name of the game. Most programmes had musical interludes. I found the thinner sound of Max Harris most anaemic at the time and time has doe nothing to heal that wound!
Amazing, thanks for the upload.
Oooooohhhhhhhh, fantabulosa 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Drag yourself onboard? No just casual wear bahahahahaha so funny, genius!
Legends.
How wonderful
Kenneth Williams was a unique character,...and a tragic one, ...could never come to terms with his sexuality, which led to him becoming depressed and more isolated .....but he'll always be remembered for being a Carry-On legend,..but despite starring in many of them, he actually dispised doing them, and felt bitterness towards them until his death..... His story ultimately is a tragic one, and his sad ending, brought closure to a very talented performer,...and a very funny and witty man.....K.Williams (rip)
Chris Evans He was a one and only. Sadly real comedy is no longer possible because it might offend. What a mess we now have
Of course the Carry On movies are low brow if viewed on a superficial level, but they paid a salary, KW wan't ignorant, its also cinema exposure and a legacy.
Millions of people despise doing their 8/10/12 hour shifts in factories and offices, but it (barely) pays the bills.
KW's worse demon was loneliness. the lack of a family life and relatives.. that goes with the old school gay lifestyle.
Absolutely brilliant
Even Wogan's program is already history
Gosh I miss their humour the silliness (now, people would found it 'offensive - doing 'stereotypical' characters, totally ignoring they were at the forefront (though I'm certain the boys wouldn't mind being in the rear🙄).
So many people today don't realise how much polari's given us, speech-wise, and I know Jools and Sandy would find the world 2 steps forward, 3 steps backwards.
Thanks for the laughs.
Utterly excellent
As I wasn't born until 1960 I was too young to have been aware of much of the radio shows of the time, though of course I've familiarised myself with them over the years. I read KW's diaries a number of years back and learned much of the private man ... as with so many comic geniuses he was a depressive. And how ironic that a man who had us all roaring with laughter in the Carry On ... films he actually loathed appearing in them! But I guess he had a pension to plan for.
@M-NJ B ... Yup, one of the many positives of the internet discvering new stuff.
I always perceived him as a nasty (as most comedians are) person.
Utterly sidesplittingly brilliant
Still funny to date. Legends of comedy
Wogan might not have been the polished performer that they might have been, but he was happy to be performing with his friend and hero, Kenneth Williams
thankyou so much for sharing this 🙂
Remember when you'd get the night's viewing menu 📺
Gold! Thanks for sharing
Fantastic
Barry Leslie Norman 21 August 1933 - 30 June 2017
Marlon Brando April 3, 1924 - July 1, 2004
Terry Wogan 3 August 1938 - 31 January 2016
Kenneth Williams 22 February 1926 - 15 April 1988
Hugh William Paddick 22 August 1915 - 9 November 2000
Incomparable
total magic
Pretty clear influence on a lot of Dudley Moore's improv
theyre just adlibbing a s they go on....very good...so professional
yes. i have heard of that....when i hear the word BONA i think of that comedy clip with dudley moore and peter cook....he plays a wanna bee actor working as Peter cooks cleaning 'lady' he was so camp...really great clip
I saw Cyril Fletcher look at his watch towards the end, the swine!
That was a minor celebrity watching a star
@@keithmahoney4390 well said.
@@skywalkerranch Ah, Cyril Fletcher, he of the Odd Odes!
It was said that Cyril was a mistake, the wanted announcer Ronald Fletcher who had been in The Braden Beat the forerunner to That's Life!
Love hearing palari (if that's the correct spelling). Anthony Burgess used at as basis for the slang Alex and his droog gang speak in Clockwork Orange.
Brilliant how many people know that the polari was real I worked with Gays in both the Ambulanceservice and Police iI wish we could bring them back Mick Timson
Only TWO of the so-called stars sat on stage bothered to clap.
How do you know? There were some seconds of applause before they were shown.
.....also noticed one of them was looking at his watch.
@@richardl772 Absolutely terrible. They should have been delighted to witness a masterclass.
loved it, genius
That effing shuffle of the feet by Wogan used to make me so angry.
young people just won't have a clue what this is about
And that's your actual French!
Demi pension... LOL
God Almighty - better days.