Ikr, the statistics on the spreadsheet aee starting to even out, with people seeing one time has a higher success rate, so more people role it and upload their results to the spreadsheet, lowering the avarage success on getting that stat at that time its hillarious
This video actually put a big smile on my face, I was becoming very desperate with echo substats and was about to try this crap but now, nah, whatever happens - happens, thank you bro!
@@Jenazadp oh this method actually worked for me. full fusion set double crit and crit dmg. for better consistency , some people have created a ahk/bot to click the echo enhancement at the correct time and milisecond. people have to be using the right time zone too, a lot of people times are off by a couple of minute so they are doing the method on the wrong time.
as someone who has a few years of programming experience, the idea that RNG works with system time can be acceptable, however trying to reverse engineer this specific RNG system might not be humanly possible since depending on how the algorithm was implemented you might need to be as accurate as 1 millisecond (at least thats how I would have done it ). Im not even considering the ping and latency that may or may not affect it if the result is calculated by the server or client.
A lot of rng functions in coding are literally down to millisecond timings not to mention few people actually know the functions other than they do pseudo rng since they're already premade
Even as layman I would assume you'd have to first look at the game's code, and then write a program to time the inputs. A gacha game would never allow this. lol
top 10 anime battle moment. the tin foil hat homeless e7 guy vs BERNARD the mrworldwide spreadsheet dj time zone guy, now all we need is to see the two of them bing chilling
I thought it was silly but, hey why not try it - I got more def stats than usual hahahaha. Even if it did work, there's no way I'm just waiting around on a timer for every echo - I play games to relax, I have enough stress in life lol
Unfortunately it’s true. I’ve heard the stories. Everyone will find just about anything to believe in their rng process . It’s just when they go a little too far in their beliefs when it gets a bit .. scary / mental.
what's funny is they have normalized percentage rate in their OWN SPREADSHEET literally showing a statistically and practically insignificant difference between each minute... even with a small sample size, its still showing that it is still pretty much random RNG
as a pisces , i vibrate heavily with the information provided in this video and i've been WAITING for u to drop this bomb. happy to say.. my jinshi just got some added cdmg not soon after this video was dropped - if u catch my drift ;)
Confirmed Tinfoil Hat method works! Basically, the problem was actually Jena’a chakra control on the second echo. Le me explain, the man is basically sleep deprived so his Chakra flow isn’t as stable, he clicked his mouse 0.3ms early and he forgot to pray to the Empress Goddess. His mistake was also touching the tinfoil hat way too frequently, basically ruining his universal chance by altering the luck factor of the hat’s angular tilt. What I did differently was sleeping for 15 hours, wear the hat approximately 42 degrees towards the right, roll the tarot cards 3 times and if I get death, I would have to restart the game and redraw the cards. Then I roll everything and basically double crit. Every time. I now have a Jinshi with 75/300 crit damage! 150% ER 2.5k ATK 58% skill bonus damage
the main reason i can tell why timing on the minute even if it is a variable in its calculation isnt valid for every account in any of these gacha games. the amount of layers of that they could shove in as a variable for its RNG calculations completely offsets anything. one thats most likely in its setup because how easy it can be grabed is the internet time, but its definintely not souly in the calculations, or we would be noticing some vary obvious similarities from pull testing just on exact timing, theres also the fact that internet time isnt even timed exactly to a minute when you look at the raw number. other things that can easily be a variable is account number, which this alone completely fucks over anything about the timing method since it will always be a off set and the range of RNG is unkown so we cant tell which accounts would even have that same varible, hell i could see the whole account number be the variable even adding more uncertainty. ping, a weird varible, but i could see it used. theres just so many layers that gets added to prevent from anyone to realisticlly reverse enginer the RNG without knowing the exact line of code that calcs it.
@@erickrobson60 sounds like you arnt aware that the majority of RNG systems throughout the majority of games are based off time. most snes, n64 and any console that doesnt really have access to global internet time base it on start on system time and is a manipulatable variable in speed runs. the latest one i can remember is KH2 having its RNG based on when you load into the game with a file selected based on current play session time, i know it effects AI combat descisions, but im unaware of the full extend for that one. as to why global time is used, its based around the smallest time interval that is countable, so even if its day 120, the actual number is not a solid round number that equals to 120 from our layman seconds, mins, hours and days since the actual full day over the course of a year collects a 4th of a day extra. the amount of systems that use this as RNG is staggering, so much so they had to add in a simple extra variable to prevent people from abusing it. and i mean many things that are "arbritrary RNG assigned" is 90% of the time based of global system clock.
Thanks for making this video Jenua. I was half convinced even though it may be silly. The funny part is that I rolled around 30 substats with this method and only 2 were crit stats. I told myself I was just unlucky lol…
There's rumors of a future item that let's you reroll a substat to one of your choice. If that's true it will be a gamechanger if they give a decent amount of them.
my man the echos RNG is still so much better than it is games like genshin it is so ridicoulsy much easier to build a character in this game than in any hoyo game
For me, I don't really follow those methods or even watch those, since getting substats is RNG already. You can be lucky or not lucky. If I don't get Crit Rate/ Crit Damage / Atk% on 1st substat, I'll skip to another echos. Pretty much what I must get in 1 echo : Crit Rate Crit Damage Atk% (If I don't get 3 of these in 1 echo, I skip) 4th and 5th substats can be anything else like Energy Regen Liberation Damage Resonance Damage
NGL, I feel very naive after you pointed out the chance of getting either crit is 42% with 3 rolls. I should've notice that since I'm good at math hahaha. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and thought to myself "this might be *the* method but since I have no control either way, I'm not gonna bother with it". Thanks for helping the community.
I will try this method for rolling gears also in E7! they all will be jalous of my 31 spd pieces ! kekw, also one thing jena didn't say at the end of the video is "tell your mom and friends about this method"
Thank goodness someone addressed this. This method of manipulation is just utter garbage. It's a waste of time. For me rng is rng. Didn't bought into this cult lol
I remember seeing a couple of his HSR videos and if you listen to the actual words, he's basically disproving his own method. Kinda wish it was real tho, I've been farming the same domain in that game for 4 months
I tried bernard trick in honkai star rail Didn’t work and they said I just had a shit uid that day. (Shit uid = not work for you) Tried next week Didn't work and they said you can get a shitty uid multiple times. There's a guy in his discord that told me he has been getting shit uids for months 💀
😂I was just going to say this. I tried his method in my earlier hsr days and its total bs. After months of playing, constant farming and sacrificing tons of bad relics, I have some good relics for all my 5 stars and all my favorite 4 stars without needing to switch around relics (even accumulated a few ‘god tier’ relics as well.) I think this same method will work in wuwa so I’m being patient and working with what I have
RNG seed for WW is rooted deep for every account and never change, thats the problem, once u get shit account, u will be unlucky for the rest of your life, the only way to being lucky in wuwa is just account reroll till u get good UID
I think the ending of this video is genius and hilarious. Any person with decent knowledge will know that the manipulation of the substats with the server time, it's just a whole load of bull
The thing that always confuses me with this is none of those people ask the simple question: why would this influence the rolls? That would require that the developers themselves put in some part of the code dedicated to lowering and increasing the rates when certain conditions are met, like time, day, units used, or what relics you upgrade. They think the developers would create some insanely complicated system of buffs and nerfs under certain specific conditions just to have a stat slightly higher chance to roll? They would really do all that instead of just making it random with some at different odds and calling it a day so they could focus on other mechanics?
I tried the guys Time method and I got similar results. I have upgraded 10 + Echos and all gave me a Crit stat. I also did it outside his recommend time and it got bad stats. So i could be suffering from confirmation bias as well. But as far as I am concern. The time method works. It's also a good idea to redo the data after the patch to see if the method still works. New updates can change how things work. There is a Gotacha game that is being sued for RNG manipulation. After the Gotcha game company had been investigated. I was found that they constantly change the RNG in the game but never told the players.
Thank you! I've always remained skeptical since his HSR stat manipulation video and it's about time someone tells the truth. Personally, I've never tried his method. Sometimes I get double crit or even energy on top and sometimes complete garbage. It's completely normal because it's RNG and it's to be expected on a GACHA game.
I was skeptic from this indeed, didnt read much into it because all I was focusing on was refreshing my credits and farming materials for Jinhsi. I dont farm echoes intentionally and mostly passively so I dont have to waste my tuners if its necessary. Issue is we only get very few echo exp at times
It's might've just been crazy luck but it was the first time something like that happened but , i rolled 5 echos, 2 of them are double crit and the other is crit rate Yeah no it was just me getting lucky thanks for clearing things up, first gacha game so not very familiar to what the community does for views
When I saw that video from Bernard I laughed and now I saw this and laughed even harder. Can’t believe people believe that when we all know RNG literally stands for random number generator
And yet, comments in those vids said there's nothing wrong with trying the method when using tuners. That you lose nothing. I quite disagree. You would be fostering yourself to believe in bullshit. That there might be a chance it works. That's how scammers got people, you know. Don't get bait into the mindset that there's nothing wrong with trying it just in case it's real. It is way more important to be of a critical mind and thinking.
the thin foil method gave better stats bernard method gave heavy atk basic atk for what?ATK% and cr is bettter..im preordering the hat sir right now..thank u sir..this video change my life forreal..especially how difficult it is as bernard method is absolute horrendous but with this one oh man..this changes EVERYTHING
On the sea server echomancing( yes thats what they're calling it lol) its been pretty average to bad in terms of luck. Regardless tho people are posting non crit rolls too with their timings. I personally tried it, hasnt really worked for me. Tinfoil hat theory but its fun seeing the results. Casual players like me won't have enough tuners to try this out so it doesn't really matter.
HOLY SHIT! i got my first double crit jue with this method. I decided to add more foil everytime so that i dont lose the chakra and i got double crit three times in a row!!!! :0
This method works if you do it while playing a clarinet, waving a flashlight and holding a cube cheese. Also don't forget to wear sombrero in a goofy fashion.
The echomancing stuff seems absurd but it does improve my stat tho.Im getting more of the useful stat and less of those HP, DEF.When I tried to just copium brainded upgrading I get trash stats.So what I think this is,is that it improve your chances to get those useful stat ER,ATK,CRIT while lower chance to get DEF,HP and Flat provided that you follow the rule I guess.
I tried it because why not. If it didn't work, it's no different if I just rolled it and if it worked I'd have good echoes. It didn't work. I tried with 20 echoes and I got 2 good ones, which is just normal RNG.
Jokes aside, slamming +15 on an echo is way too expensive to consider. Given how scarce Exp/Tuners/Shells, and how you only get 75% back from reusing a leveled echo. It isn't an efficient utilization of your resources
@@Jenazadp @kamoteking37 This is pretty much the way. Jena & I both come from Epic Seven. Rolling +5 at a time and making an informed decision from there is what has lead me to the gear I have right now. No "Echo Manipulation" or any of that. I'm a low Spender and my Jiyan's stats are 1700 Attack, 150 Energy Regen, 76% Crit, 260 Crit Damage. All of that is literally just persistence and understanding when to keep rolling or when to move on and fodder it. These games are a marathon, not a sprint.
@@Jenazadp the only time going to 15 is viable is if you're leveling up a 3 cost bc of how hard they are to get, with the 1 costs if the first roll isn't crits or atk then dump it
one thing I understand after observing multiple account, I believe RNG is not change at all, it tied up to your account, thats why u will see some account will have crazy amount of luck and the other is just crap, even if its the same person who has it. conclusion of how to get good echo? easy, just reroll account, I guarantee you if u somehow get the unluckiest UID on the planet, the best u can get is double crit echo at least once a month, u will lost all your 50:50 and all of them is deep pull and it will never change no matter what u do why I suspect this? remember that kuro have optimation issue till today? dont u think RNG is one of the optimation issue? because if I put myself on their shoe, I will do the same and just put any simple RNG, at least the game can running and nobody can see the RNG anyway
I had actually come across this video and tried it out. In like... 8 echoes (doing 2-3 subs per echo) I got exactly 1 crit roll. Which... Is like, bad luck even if this doesn't work (spoiler: it doesn't)... If it DID work that'd just be insane. This is no different than people doing their "pull rituals" for characters, and should be treated as such.
Bro I reported his video for misinformation, some people may think I'm being extra for doing it but he'll conveniently wipe data and make up some bs narrative "Oh it's changed to THIS minute now" every patch if we let this go on.
LOL not the "true method". Considering how many people actually believe in horoscopes, tarots, crystals, etc. I'm not really surprised ppl buy into it. I think some people are just also so opposed to luck because achieving things through luck can seem less meaningful than thinking you got it through skill, hard work, or some divine entity.
i tried the trick for 3 days already. so far on my 6 echoes, it's a hit or miss for me but mostly a miss not able to get stats i want for my Yangyang. waste of time imo. i hope Kuro LET us have an item that gives us chance to select substat of our choice even if the stat values are at random.
How to get better echo substats: farm. every. single. day. and. play. the. goddamn. game.
period.
once u get that cursed account like some 20% of player, u will never said this
and be lucky
you can farm for a whole week and still got.... garbage and farm for 5 minutes and got double crit echos, the turtle one 😂😂
Need more exp to level echoes 😢😢
That’s how you waste your life on a video game
A load of bs, and I say this after I tried it on 17 pieces for hours, I felt like an idiot for even thinking it could be true
Yep, but everyone who has positive returns will say it works
Ikr, the statistics on the spreadsheet aee starting to even out, with people seeing one time has a higher success rate, so more people role it and upload their results to the spreadsheet, lowering the avarage success on getting that stat at that time its hillarious
Positive results bring positive news, and the Negative results bring negative news...
That's how it goes in every video game
This video actually put a big smile on my face, I was becoming very desperate with echo substats and was about to try this crap but now, nah, whatever happens - happens, thank you bro!
Rng is rng, we gotta remember that everything else is superstition
there is a big reason why big ccs don't even talk about this crap
So glad I checked another video before trying the method. You're goated for this man ty
@@Jenazadp oh this method actually worked for me. full fusion set double crit and crit dmg. for better consistency , some people have created a ahk/bot to click the echo enhancement at the correct time and milisecond. people have to be using the right time zone too, a lot of people times are off by a couple of minute so they are doing the method on the wrong time.
as someone who has a few years of programming experience, the idea that RNG works with system time can be acceptable, however trying to reverse engineer this specific RNG system might not be humanly possible since depending on how the algorithm was implemented you might need to be as accurate as 1 millisecond (at least thats how I would have done it ). Im not even considering the ping and latency that may or may not affect it if the result is calculated by the server or client.
A lot of rng functions in coding are literally down to millisecond timings not to mention few people actually know the functions other than they do pseudo rng since they're already premade
Even as layman I would assume you'd have to first look at the game's code, and then write a program to time the inputs. A gacha game would never allow this. lol
@@jessica_glassjessicaaaa
What about the HSR echo manipulation? Unlike WuWa which is time based it is based on sequence
@@s2wuolf508 I have never played HSR, so sadly have no idea how it works
I paid by kuro to dislike this video cuz your method is hurting kuro income
Noooo 😢
your coping so hard lol
How to get better echo substats
Bernard - Manipulating thru time
Jenazad - Tin foil hat + tarot card + chakra
top 10 anime battle moment. the tin foil hat homeless e7 guy vs BERNARD the mrworldwide spreadsheet dj time zone guy, now all we need is to see the two of them bing chilling
I thought it was silly but, hey why not try it - I got more def stats than usual hahahaha.
Even if it did work, there's no way I'm just waiting around on a timer for every echo - I play games to relax, I have enough stress in life lol
Yep! Play the way you want to
Yah rng is rng . It’s like a casino. You go there with your hat, your necklace, lucky charms, etc. it’s rng boys .
U joke but there literally people that tell you "u can manipulate slot machines by doing x"
Unfortunately it’s true. I’ve heard the stories. Everyone will find just about anything to believe in their rng process . It’s just when they go a little too far in their beliefs when it gets a bit .. scary / mental.
what's funny is they have normalized percentage rate in their OWN SPREADSHEET literally showing a statistically and practically insignificant difference between each minute... even with a small sample size, its still showing that it is still pretty much random RNG
as a pisces , i vibrate heavily with the information provided in this video and i've been WAITING for u to drop this bomb. happy to say.. my jinshi just got some added cdmg not soon after this video was dropped - if u catch my drift ;)
Confirmed Tinfoil Hat method works!
Basically, the problem was actually Jena’a chakra control on the second echo.
Le me explain, the man is basically sleep deprived so his Chakra flow isn’t as stable, he clicked his mouse 0.3ms early and he forgot to pray to the Empress Goddess.
His mistake was also touching the tinfoil hat way too frequently, basically ruining his universal chance by altering the luck factor of the hat’s angular tilt.
What I did differently was sleeping for 15 hours, wear the hat approximately 42 degrees towards the right, roll the tarot cards 3 times and if I get death, I would have to restart the game and redraw the cards.
Then I roll everything and basically double crit. Every time.
I now have a Jinshi with 75/300 crit damage!
150% ER
2.5k ATK
58% skill bonus damage
the main reason i can tell why timing on the minute even if it is a variable in its calculation isnt valid for every account in any of these gacha games. the amount of layers of that they could shove in as a variable for its RNG calculations completely offsets anything. one thats most likely in its setup because how easy it can be grabed is the internet time, but its definintely not souly in the calculations, or we would be noticing some vary obvious similarities from pull testing just on exact timing, theres also the fact that internet time isnt even timed exactly to a minute when you look at the raw number. other things that can easily be a variable is account number, which this alone completely fucks over anything about the timing method since it will always be a off set and the range of RNG is unkown so we cant tell which accounts would even have that same varible, hell i could see the whole account number be the variable even adding more uncertainty. ping, a weird varible, but i could see it used. theres just so many layers that gets added to prevent from anyone to realisticlly reverse enginer the RNG without knowing the exact line of code that calcs it.
Why would you ever code it to be rng to a time of the day when you can legit just have an arbitrary rng assigned to it. Makes no sense
@@erickrobson60 sounds like you arnt aware that the majority of RNG systems throughout the majority of games are based off time. most snes, n64 and any console that doesnt really have access to global internet time base it on start on system time and is a manipulatable variable in speed runs. the latest one i can remember is KH2 having its RNG based on when you load into the game with a file selected based on current play session time, i know it effects AI combat descisions, but im unaware of the full extend for that one.
as to why global time is used, its based around the smallest time interval that is countable, so even if its day 120, the actual number is not a solid round number that equals to 120 from our layman seconds, mins, hours and days since the actual full day over the course of a year collects a 4th of a day extra.
the amount of systems that use this as RNG is staggering, so much so they had to add in a simple extra variable to prevent people from abusing it. and i mean many things that are "arbritrary RNG assigned" is 90% of the time based of global system clock.
Thanks for making this video Jenua. I was half convinced even though it may be silly. The funny part is that I rolled around 30 substats with this method and only 2 were crit stats. I told myself I was just unlucky lol…
If you just tune your echo for a 20-50 you'll get at least 1 double crit sub stats unless you are very unlucky
Hope Kuro does something to improve echo building because having to rely on invisible rng just to get a good roll is embarrassing.
There's rumors of a future item that let's you reroll a substat to one of your choice. If that's true it will be a gamechanger if they give a decent amount of them.
my man the echos RNG is still so much better than it is games like genshin it is so ridicoulsy much easier to build a character in this game than in any hoyo game
NOT THE TIN FOIL HAT
For me, I don't really follow those methods or even watch those, since getting substats is RNG already. You can be lucky or not lucky. If I don't get Crit Rate/ Crit Damage / Atk% on 1st substat, I'll skip to another echos.
Pretty much what I must get in 1 echo :
Crit Rate
Crit Damage
Atk%
(If I don't get 3 of these in 1 echo, I skip)
4th and 5th substats can be anything else like
Energy Regen
Liberation Damage
Resonance Damage
The knowledge we learned from EP7 will guide us through the darkness.
I actually found something insane on all of this just now. Will release soon. This changes everything. Even my life.
looking forward to that 👀
i used the tinfoil hat method combined with the 7 minute rolls.. i got 3 crit stat on 1 echo! trust me bro
NGL, I feel very naive after you pointed out the chance of getting either crit is 42% with 3 rolls. I should've notice that since I'm good at math hahaha.
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and thought to myself "this might be *the* method but since I have no control either way, I'm not gonna bother with it". Thanks for helping the community.
Even Bernard the goat can't escape flat def roll...
I will try this method for rolling gears also in E7! they all will be jalous of my 31 spd pieces !
kekw, also one thing jena didn't say at the end of the video is "tell your mom and friends about this method"
Thank goodness someone addressed this. This method of manipulation is just utter garbage. It's a waste of time. For me rng is rng. Didn't bought into this cult lol
I remember seeing a couple of his HSR videos and if you listen to the actual words, he's basically disproving his own method. Kinda wish it was real tho, I've been farming the same domain in that game for 4 months
I tried bernard trick in honkai star rail
Didn’t work and they said I just had a shit uid that day. (Shit uid = not work for you)
Tried next week
Didn't work and they said you can get a shitty uid multiple times.
There's a guy in his discord that told me he has been getting shit uids for months 💀
Man, how long can people lie to themselves like that...
😂I was just going to say this. I tried his method in my earlier hsr days and its total bs. After months of playing, constant farming and sacrificing tons of bad relics, I have some good relics for all my 5 stars and all my favorite 4 stars without needing to switch around relics (even accumulated a few ‘god tier’ relics as well.)
I think this same method will work in wuwa so I’m being patient and working with what I have
RNG seed for WW is rooted deep for every account and never change, thats the problem, once u get shit account, u will be unlucky for the rest of your life, the only way to being lucky in wuwa is just account reroll till u get good UID
@@socrates1796That would certainly be illegal if even remotely provable by data.
Try it again UID is debunked now. Watch the latest one. i dont really care if you listen to me or not. Its real actually
I think the ending of this video is genius and hilarious. Any person with decent knowledge will know that the manipulation of the substats with the server time, it's just a whole load of bull
Its so funny see people malding when they got debunked with tin voil hat and chakra 😂
The thing that always confuses me with this is none of those people ask the simple question: why would this influence the rolls? That would require that the developers themselves put in some part of the code dedicated to lowering and increasing the rates when certain conditions are met, like time, day, units used, or what relics you upgrade. They think the developers would create some insanely complicated system of buffs and nerfs under certain specific conditions just to have a stat slightly higher chance to roll?
They would really do all that instead of just making it random with some at different odds and calling it a day so they could focus on other mechanics?
Jenazad is my Bernard now 💪😔
I tried the guys Time method and I got similar results. I have upgraded 10 + Echos and all gave me a Crit stat. I also did it outside his recommend time and it got bad stats. So i could be suffering from confirmation bias as well. But as far as I am concern. The time method works. It's also a good idea to redo the data after the patch to see if the method still works. New updates can change how things work. There is a Gotacha game that is being sued for RNG manipulation. After the Gotcha game company had been investigated. I was found that they constantly change the RNG in the game but never told the players.
You pull with that hat, you get double Lingyang.
Bernard is trolling 100% aint no way this is real lmao
Thank you! I've always remained skeptical since his HSR stat manipulation video and it's about time someone tells the truth. Personally, I've never tried his method. Sometimes I get double crit or even energy on top and sometimes complete garbage. It's completely normal because it's RNG and it's to be expected on a GACHA game.
Got The Hierophant as my tarot card, my echo rolls are in shambles. 😭
I was skeptic from this indeed, didnt read much into it because all I was focusing on was refreshing my credits and farming materials for Jinhsi. I dont farm echoes intentionally and mostly passively so I dont have to waste my tuners if its necessary. Issue is we only get very few echo exp at times
it would be good if we can do reroll 4 the substat
With ur method i got crit rate with def def flat .thanks mr tinfoiled
as if devs would code item stats to relate to the server time you pull it at instead of just straight-forward RNG
It's might've just been crazy luck but it was the first time something like that happened but , i rolled 5 echos, 2 of them are double crit and the other is crit rate
Yeah no it was just me getting lucky thanks for clearing things up, first gacha game so not very familiar to what the community does for views
When I saw that video from Bernard I laughed and now I saw this and laughed even harder. Can’t believe people believe that when we all know RNG literally stands for random number generator
THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING !!!!
Mattjestick cousin moment
And yet, comments in those vids said there's nothing wrong with trying the method when using tuners. That you lose nothing. I quite disagree. You would be fostering yourself to believe in bullshit. That there might be a chance it works. That's how scammers got people, you know.
Don't get bait into the mindset that there's nothing wrong with trying it just in case it's real. It is way more important to be of a critical mind and thinking.
That was a thing? 🤣 Here I was just spamming those level 20 echoes with tuners
the thin foil method gave better stats bernard method gave heavy atk basic atk for what?ATK% and cr is bettter..im preordering the hat sir right now..thank u sir..this video change my life forreal..especially how difficult it is as bernard method is absolute horrendous but with this one oh man..this changes EVERYTHING
On the sea server echomancing( yes thats what they're calling it lol) its been pretty average to bad in terms of luck. Regardless tho people are posting non crit rolls too with their timings. I personally tried it, hasnt really worked for me. Tinfoil hat theory but its fun seeing the results. Casual players like me won't have enough tuners to try this out so it doesn't really matter.
HOLY SHIT! i got my first double crit jue with this method. I decided to add more foil everytime so that i dont lose the chakra and i got double crit three times in a row!!!! :0
Thanks for calling this out, subbed too
We Have been waiting for this, thank you so much !
10:49 bro got cursed by the RNG gods 💀
wake up babe, new e7 guy video
8:44 wtf .its good😂😂😂
This method works if you do it while playing a clarinet, waving a flashlight and holding a cube cheese. Also don't forget to wear sombrero in a goofy fashion.
The echomancing stuff seems absurd but it does improve my stat tho.Im getting more of the useful stat and less of those HP, DEF.When I tried to just copium brainded upgrading I get trash stats.So what I think this is,is that it improve your chances to get those useful stat ER,ATK,CRIT while lower chance to get DEF,HP and Flat provided that you follow the rule I guess.
What people dont know is the rng could be change every day or even every hour or even seconds 😂 if kuro did implement something like this
OMG i laugh so hard when you started wear the tinfoil hat jena
I cant believe it!!!! I won double crit stats on my lottery ticket!! It works ppl!!!
YESSSSSSS FCKING FINALY SOMEONE who did NOT Fall for that BULLSHIITT LMFAOOOO
thank god theres at least 1 CC with a brain in the community
😂fck i thought it really manipulation echo but it just like a ritual when your pulling for character 😂😂
LMAO this reaction was too good
I tried it because why not. If it didn't work, it's no different if I just rolled it and if it worked I'd have good echoes.
It didn't work. I tried with 20 echoes and I got 2 good ones, which is just normal RNG.
5 echos in a row with double crit within 10 mins. 2 of them had the exact same rolls.
3 rolls gave you a very good chance of rolling at least 1 roll of crit. tbh
YOUR METHODS WORKED! Thank you so much for the echo
UIGUY now is ECHOGUY WHATTTTTTTTTT
I'm going to call this
SMRC (Substats Manipulation Re-Rolling Cancel)
to us who can't really roll any good substats this can be a good coping system🤣
So, why did he use 3 stat instead of only 1? That still did not make sense to me...
Because if you do 1 at a time it will show it doesn't work but 3 at once causes a 42% chance one stat is crit chance or crit multiplier
@@Jenazadp LMAO!
Only thing to believe in is RnJesus
I already try it few time it still depend RNG it has no effect for me and few of my friend also for one pull 3 substat that waste tuner and echo xp
thank you I was just about to try the method after saving resources for a few weeks
Bernard sends his regards.
Please no
Jokes aside, slamming +15 on an echo is way too expensive to consider. Given how scarce Exp/Tuners/Shells, and how you only get 75% back from reusing a leveled echo. It isn't an efficient utilization of your resources
@@kamoteking37 100% +10 is the MAX at a time you should do but +5 is obviously safer
@@Jenazadp @kamoteking37 This is pretty much the way. Jena & I both come from Epic Seven. Rolling +5 at a time and making an informed decision from there is what has lead me to the gear I have right now. No "Echo Manipulation" or any of that. I'm a low Spender and my Jiyan's stats are 1700 Attack, 150 Energy Regen, 76% Crit, 260 Crit Damage. All of that is literally just persistence and understanding when to keep rolling or when to move on and fodder it. These games are a marathon, not a sprint.
@@Jenazadp the only time going to 15 is viable is if you're leveling up a 3 cost bc of how hard they are to get, with the 1 costs if the first roll isn't crits or atk then dump it
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nice , now i need the tutorial to make tin foil hat
Holy this change everything!!!!!
one thing I understand after observing multiple account, I believe RNG is not change at all, it tied up to your account, thats why u will see some account will have crazy amount of luck and the other is just crap, even if its the same person who has it.
conclusion of how to get good echo?
easy, just reroll account, I guarantee you if u somehow get the unluckiest UID on the planet, the best u can get is double crit echo at least once a month, u will lost all your 50:50 and all of them is deep pull and it will never change no matter what u do
why I suspect this? remember that kuro have optimation issue till today? dont u think RNG is one of the optimation issue? because if I put myself on their shoe, I will do the same and just put any simple RNG, at least the game can running and nobody can see the RNG anyway
I had actually come across this video and tried it out. In like... 8 echoes (doing 2-3 subs per echo) I got exactly 1 crit roll. Which... Is like, bad luck even if this doesn't work (spoiler: it doesn't)... If it DID work that'd just be insane. This is no different than people doing their "pull rituals" for characters, and should be treated as such.
Bro I reported his video for misinformation, some people may think I'm being extra for doing it but he'll conveniently wipe data and make up some bs narrative "Oh it's changed to THIS minute now" every patch if we let this go on.
screw this bullshite, how do people get echo exp in this game.
BERNARD IS MY GOAT WOOOOOO !!!!!
Guess what i think i'm just lucky to get good echos since the first day day launch no need to manipulation anything 😂
is this like the flat earthers of gacha games?
Unfortunately I don't think that this method is going to work for me because I'm a Taurus
😏
That's rough buddy...
damn! earned my sub bro good vid
LOL not the "true method". Considering how many people actually believe in horoscopes, tarots, crystals, etc. I'm not really surprised ppl buy into it. I think some people are just also so opposed to luck because achieving things through luck can seem less meaningful than thinking you got it through skill, hard work, or some divine entity.
i tried the trick for 3 days already. so far on my 6 echoes, it's a hit or miss for me but mostly a miss not able to get stats i want for my Yangyang. waste of time imo.
i hope Kuro LET us have an item that gives us chance to select substat of our choice even if the stat values are at random.
I'm one of the guy that try that method, and got absolutely trash roll and not commenting or downvote on that video lol
i have no problem with the echo substats RNG
just the echo and tuning mats i only care about the rewards in tacet fields is big scam😢
All the dislikes on this video are from Bernard believers 😶
his comment section is cringe
It actually works I got wtf I want complain all you want
@@YourbiggestHater334 delulu
@@YourbiggestHater334 okey...
Yooo, how do I get this hat merch?
Ive tried many times and i only got crit rate on one or two out of 10. Meh confirmation bias data
How can I order the tin foil hat
100000 dollar oder now
dont forget your metal foil hat need baptize in holy water before you roll to get crit,crit dmg,energy regen 1st 3 stats wink wink.
Holy you're right, that woulda helped a lot
Why slandering, just focus on making content on your 'SAID' working method, people can decide what method is working for them😂😂😂😂
I've got my tin foil hat and chakra ready. Let's go.
I was lmao at the first part
Edit: I was lmfao the whole video ahahaha this made my day
Bernard is punching the air right now.
Better question, where do we get the tinfoil hat merch? I saw that it prevented the jingle beast from showing up during your Changli pull session. 😅
Oh no the same dude who tried this BS in Honkai which proves shit 🤮