At 2:20 That forward collision warninig / ACC sensor in the front bumper should actually have a cover! (Probably some journalists took the thing offroad and lost it. And FCA themselfes haven't noticed yet, their press car is missing something...) If someone already mentioned it: Sorry, I didn't read all the comments.
Not a problem! We did get one other comment about it, and it wasn’t until we looked at other review photos that we realized it. It’s unfortunate that it was missing, we feel bad bringing it up.
OMG !!! 2:21 EPIC FAIL !!! You consider yourself an auto journalist ??? You can't determine that the sensor in the lower valence has been DAMAGED ??? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME !!!
I imagine you’re the type of person who’s going to flood my inbox with comments throughout your viewing of this episode, rather than waiting till the end or replying to your first comment. Not my fault if the manufacturer provides a damaged car, but rather than getting all upset about it you could point it out like a normal human being. Looking forward to the rest of your comments.
You can get a Stelvio with a leather wrapped dash via the Lusso package. Probably best to know about the various trims/options available if you're going to be doing car reviews.
It's the fastest in its class. A similar spec C300 is around $63,800 and slower. A similar spec X3 is around $66,100 and slower. A similar spec Q5 is around $60,000 and slower.
These Stelvios are a dime a dozen. I see them absolutely everywhere here in Southern California. My uncle just leased a new Alfa Romeo Giulia, after his lease with a 2015 Lexus IS350 ended. I actually like the Lexus better, but the Giulia is really awesome too.
Perpetual Radio Networks - the Giulia is a dream to drive. Same engine as the Stelvio, with less chassis to pull - I would imagine it is funner to drive than it's bigger brother. I never tried the Stelvio - but the Giulia is SERIOUSLY fun.
Your comment (AT 10:44) that it is not overly fast!! You need to do your research EH... It is the fastest of all the 4 cylinder luxury midsize SUV's. 0-60 sec in 5.4. It also handles better than my 2016 X3 which I traded in for this Stelvio TI Sport. You cannot compare it to a six cylinder SUV. Every reviewer has reported that it handles better than BMW, Mercedes, Volvo and Audi.
Gotta get it in their blue colour, looks absolutely fantastic! We've requested the Stelvio and Giulia Quadrifoglios for the summer, they should be on the fleet within a few months. We're going to give it a second go and see if more power helps us enjoy the Stelvio more.
really not good information, you mention 280 hp but fail to mention the low end 306 lbs of torque. I test drove 4 other base suv's, the Alfa was the best driving experience and the most power.
I’m glad you enjoyed your drive of it. It disappointed us, and it wasn’t just one thing, it was the entire package for the price. It clearly works for some, as we’ve seen one Stelvio on the road since publishing this, so someone out in our area bought one. A lot of Alfa fans seem to be upset about our video, but we don’t sugarcoat our reviews, and constructive criticism is the only way the brand can grow.
I get it. Much of your review was not wrong. But I felt you could have honed in on the one thing I think and many think it does better then any other SUV and that is the "drive".
We just got off our week with the 2018 GMC Terrain Denali, and while it didn't have as much power as the Stelvio, we found the ride of the Terrain to be exceptionally smooth, leaving a lasting positive impression that the Alfa didn't. We're hoping to work with one of the Montreal area dealerships to feature a Giulia Quadrifoglio.
yes, but, the Denali is a completely difference vehicle. The Alfa is not a great ride because it is stiffer suspension made more for a track then a bumpy highway. So I can agree with you on that. The Denali is also a much heavier vehicle and just in a different class. The Ford Explorer is also a much smoother ride then the Alfa and is probably a closer comparison. Although it too is much heavier. Take the Denali or the Explorer around the track with the Alfa and compare the drive. Ultimately I do agree with your assessment except the power / torque information you left out and the comparisons to the heavier vehicles. The Denali is not a compact SUV made for a more high speed environment.
That's one of the reasons we'd like to get behind the wheel of the Giulia. Back at the start of the year we published an episode on the Jeep Grand Cherokee, and absolutely hated it, but then we took another go at a Chrysler product and loved it, and continued to be surprised by their other vehicles. I suspect the same will be true for Alfa's other North American vehicles for us. The Stelvio's chemistry didn't work for us, but we're excited to have our minds changed with other models!
I see Alfa Romeo Stelvio/Giulia and i dont live in a city... Here Alfa Romeo Stelvio is the most popular premium mid size suv on sale (Audi q5 on second place) Giulia is the most popular premium midsize sedan on sale, second place for Audi a4 (but mainly due to wagon version)
Perpetual Radio Networks you laught... But when an Audi overtake me, at the first corner he slam on the brakes, probably the know how Audi perform throug the corner :D
Glad to hear it! The Stelvio wasn't the crossover for us, but we're glad others are enjoying it! We're starting to see more of them on the road out here.
Our sister Channel PRN_tech grew 7,100% in the past 2 months, but it helps that we went from 1 subscriber to 72. A 230% growth in sales sounds great, but if the 2017 sales figures were already insanely low, it doesn't prove much. Our point with the title of this video, which often seems to sway people to vote via the thumbs down button without actually watching the episode, isn't meant to be an insult towards Alfa Romeo. Out here in Québec we see more new Jaguar F-Paces and even Maserati Levantes on the road than Alfas in general. I don't doubt that in markets like California where the number of Alfa dealerships is extensively larger you'll see more of them, but we produce a show in Québec, so we discuss what we see out here. I apologize that I'm making your comment into the example here, but perhaps by pinning this some viewers will actually read both your comment and our reply and understand where we're coming from with this episode.
I'm sorry I don't know the Canadian auto market in depth, but I know that the US market is fundamental for Alfa Romeo, Canada, on the contrary, is marginal. Currently Alfa Romeo Stelvio and Gulia sell more in the US than in Italy, already an excellent result, 12,131 cars in the first 6 months when in 2016 in US they sold only 528. If you want to see some Stelvios you will have to go south of the border.
Good to know! And as mentioned, we didn’t want to single your comment out necessarily, but we’re hoping it helps others understand what we’re presenting here. Cheers!
I live in Canada and in my specific city i see alfas everywhere. So this is clearly bias. The Suv alfa is good selling Alfa is doing better than they ever were before.
So you must be in either Toronto or Vancouver. Count the Alfas, then count the number of BMW, Mercedes, or Audis from 2017-2018 model years on the road. As mentioned in Montreal and surrounding area we’ve seen more new Ferrari Maserati models on the road than Alfas.
In September, I drove from L.A. to cabo San Lucas, acd back. My first one was the Gulia 50k m. Then I traded in for my stelvio and allready have 53km, talk about a driving Nut, love for the curves.
Well in America you can see GMC Chevrolet and Chrysler cars, so for ''some'' reason you guys seem to like them. Not seeing Alfas in the US or Canada doesn't mean they are bad cars.
We didn't say they were bad cars, we just weren't overly impressed with the one that we had considering the competition in this segment is intense with the BMW X3, Mercedes GLC, and Lexus NX.
On the plus’s you note engine performance , then you diss it for not enough; I’m confused. To get the numbers that the base Stelvio achieves you’d be in a much higher price point with competitors.
You're right, compared to something like a 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i the Stelvio has more power, but BMW then offers the X3 M40i, X3M and X3M Competition, giving buyers plenty of choice for power. Mercedes is similar with the GLC 300, GLC 350e, GLC 43, and GLC 63 S. We were disappointed with this Stelvio, but we've admitted that FCA didn't configure this press car very well. The Stelvio Quadrifoglio is coming on the fleet later this summer and we plan on giving it another go with a fresh perspective.
What quickest response? What does that even mean, how fast the car accelerates when you hit the gas pedal? If you’re talking about transmission shifts, we talked about how fast those paddles are.
I like your review because of your straightforward approach. The reason the vehicle feels planted in corners is because the suspension was designed by the Ferrari engineer who designed the F40. Also, Alfa Romeo is a sports brand, not really a luxury brand. Maserati is FCA's luxury brand. This is really a great vehicle and unique. Lastly, the Alfa Romeo Giulia is ranked 3rd in reliability in Europe, check out Whatcar.com. Mercedes C class was 14th. The Stelvio is based on the Giulia ;)
I really appreciate your comment, thanks! It’s true that Alfa’s are more sport oriented, that’s why we’re very eager to get behind the wheel of the Quadrifoglios for both the Stelvio & Gulia later this year.
The title is BS. Cause i see alfas everywhere in my city. Including few of these SUVs few times a week. Dont use clickbait. These are very good vehicles. Pretty good mileage too for a turbocharged 4-cylinder
Not click bait, sorry. We don’t see any here in our market, which is where we produce this show. Since publishing this episode we’ve seen one more Alfa, it was a Giulia at the drag strip near our area. Your area might have more, as some commenters from the California area have mentioned they see them.
Strange, it wasn’t listed on the Alfa website, they had 3 in Montreal followed by Ottawa. We’re actually about the same distance to Quebec City as Montreal.
Good to know! Still, that only makes 4 dealerships for the whole province, and I believe across the country there are only about a dozen. I certainly can appreciate the difficulty of rolling out a relaunch for a brand, but that's going to be a continued struggle for Alfa Romeo given the extensive network of BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and even Jaguar dealerships in comparison.
tools.alfaromeo.ca/locateretailer/en/m.php#/lar?mode=locateretailer&backToUrl=http:%2F%2Fwww.alfaromeo.ca&retailerView=list&larStep=list Groupe JD is listed
I fit in them, and the Sparco race seats on the QV. They aren't the worlds most comfortable, but they didn't make it unpleasant. I'd recommend trying them out first as everyone fits a little differently.
We're glad that you enjoyed it so much that you bought it. We drove the 2019 Stelvio Quadrifoglio and did a full episode on it. The performance is great, the rest of the vehicle experience is still awful.
The proximity of the dealerships certainly helps. We saw a lot of fleet Alfas around the dealer when we went to drop this off, all the salespeople seem to park them around to help with visibility. That's one of the issues we have though, out in our area with the 3 dealers it'll be very difficult to expand outside of the metro Montreal area for Alfa Romeo.
Someone else did mention that, and you are correct. This was how it was given to us unfortunately so either it fell off or broke off somehow during its life.
Keeping it specific to the luxury market, we haven't driven enough 2018 models yet. We ended up comparing this Stelvio a lot to our $37,000 Mazda CX-5 off-camera, as we feel the CX-5 is currently the leader for compact crossover SUVs in the consumer segment. Sure it has significantly less power, but we feel you get more for less when compared with this specific trim on the Alfa. As we start to approach the change over for winter fleets, we'll end up getting a lot more crossovers and SUVs, hopefully by this time next year we'll have had the rest of the luxury market to compare with.
I've actually seen 3 different ones in the montreal area I know they were different as they were all different colors red blue and white . That's still not many. I Actually like this however for 65k they need to update Nav. make interior more luxurious and have Led lights rather than xenon. Also adding 350 hp engine option as third option between this and full blown quatrofoglio may be a good idea for both stelvio and giulia.
These are all great ideas, I think Alfa Romeo should seriously consider them if they want this crossover to be successful. We did 'spot' several Stelvios the morning we dropped this off, only to realize we were driving around the dealership along Boulevard des Sources.
We don’t have sales figures for 2018, that would be something likely released after FCA’s fiscal year. We base this off observation in our province since we know it best.
you can consult sales figures for the month before the current one for every car of fca. how it's possible that i know that and it's not my job like your case.
First, as an owner of a "17 Giulia Quadrifoglio and a '18 Stelvio Ti Sport, neither vehicle has Lane Keep Assist (LKAS) but rather Lane Departure Warning (LDW). The Stelvio is pretty quick as several base Mustangs, Camaros, and 350zs have discovered this. Also, I drove the CX-5 for 2 months and it is nowhere near as powerful or agile. The CX-5 does have one of the best ADAS visuals for the driver; however, people buy the Alfas for their styling and uniqueness.
@@shabshah4705 night and day. CX-5 is capable cuv but the Stelvio is sports car that is slightly elevated. I would recommend the Stelvio new or used you will enjoy it more.
This is a driver's car. Not for driving groceries or pets. The only downside is the infortainment screen. Set the music and just drive. If you want your bottom in butter get something else. Car for Alfa males. QV owner.
maan you are often out of point...aah I do not want to even start..This, is the BEST SUV in its class. FACT. Check the infos about the car before you make a review.
Just because you like it, doesn’t mean it’s a fact that it’s the best. How can an opinion about something be constituted a fact? We had high expectations for this crossover, but it fell flat against something like a BMW X3. We hope Alfa improves the Stelvio through constructive criticism like ours, because the fanboys like you aren’t going to help make the vehicle or brand more appealing if it stays the same.
@@PRNTestDrive BMW? Really? I Saw a lot od reviews, comparsions and X3 nowhere near of best SUVs..just check other reviews..cause I think your opinion IS way to conservative with limited info and knowledge
Again, you're saying my OPINION is wrong because it isn't the same as your opinion. Let me put it this way, we picked up the 2018 Cadillac XT5 Platinum on Tuesday expecting it to be a boring crossover, but the interior and power is far superior to the Stelvio, which is essentially what we were disappointed with. Plastic interiors don't have a place for a car like a Stelvio, yet they made the interior feel like a cheap Toyota.
Perpetual Radio Networks i do not know as in USA, but in EU there is a trim level with dashboard covered in leather...if this is the only problem...No Im not sayin that my opinion is right...Im sayin that a huge amount of reviews have different opinion..reviews of channels and people, who means something in automotive journalism..
If everyone has the same opinion, why bother having more than one journalist out there? Everyone has different tastes, expectations, and experiences that all lead up to their own opinion about a vehicle. Just because a lot of other people love something, doesn't mean everyone has to automatically. I've mentioned it before, we drove a 2017 FCA product and hated it, but we had the chance to drive several 2018 FCA vehicles and found them to have improved on our faults. The same will likely be true for the Stelvio, if changes are made down the road as a facelift there's a good chance we'll enjoy it more.
You can't have leather on dashboard and doors where sun is constantly shining because you would be complaining in a year or two that the leather is cracked.
It's amazing how many choices there are for the ~$50k to $60k Cdn SUV segment. To those seeking a sports-oriented luxury compact SUV, I would likely recommend the Jaguar F-Pace and Porsche Macan rather than the Alfa Romeo Stelvio. I would even suggest the Lexus NX F-Sport, even though it's smaller (I think) and its front end styling is controversial, to put it politely. Based on style alone, I find the BMW X3 to be the most attractive of the group, and the one I would most want to have in my garage if I were prepared to spend so much money on a vehicle.
The competition is fierce, that's for sure. We see a lot of the Macans out here, so they sell well. We're also starting to see more Jag F-Paces, maybe a dozen or so this year. We were so excited to get this Alfa, but it just felt flat to us. There's nothing special aside from the badge, and it just wasn't enough for us this time.
That is the big question, is reliability. Something like an Acura would probably be in the shop less, but the 2019 RDX is all-new so there also could be problems with it that need to be worked out.
realiability it's a thing of the past but ignorant and not informed people keep saying it anyway because taking a look to some stats it's too difficult for their lazy ass
I've had my Giulia for 14 months now. Though not too long but still Zero issue. Amazing car to drive! Thinking of getting a Stelvio after my current other car lease is finished.
The least reliable brand by a long shot in surveys is Tesla yet people keep buying them. Check out whatcar.com, Alfa Giulia is ranked 3rd in its category and the Mercedes C class 14th. Also, Fiat is ranked ahead of VW in terms of reliability according to their surveys. People's perceptions of brands aren't necessarily accurate. Range Rover ranked the lowest for SUV's yet they sell alot. Marketing is a huge factor in terms of influencing purchasing decisions.
We've always been fans of Volvo design language. At least exterior design. Their interior centre consoles from the early 2000s remind us of pay phones. Either way, we're hoping to get some!
Perpetual Radio Networks lol yes true, previous generation volvo's center console reminds an old phone with many tiny grey buttons and flat grey dashboard
Awesome appreciate the point of difference in your review heading ‘ epic fail or there about , ....had to take a loooook ...can’t say I’ll agree though ,thanks big fella
This wasn't the luxury crossover for us the way it was configured, but we have the Stelvio Quadrifoglio booked in mid September and plan on coming at it with a fresh perspective.
I don't see many positive reviews of Alfa Romeos but I see plenty of highly salty comments on videos reviewing Alfas. Point in case: this comment section. Wow...
Alfa, VW, and Subaru we’ve found are the three brands that have incredibly vocal fanboys who can’t listen to anything that isn’t a glowing review. The Stelvio was my least favourite car in 2018, but we’re going to give it another go later this year.
We’ve spotted one other Alfa since publishing this, it was a regular Giulia at the Sanair drag last Friday. We wanted to love this car, but just couldn’t ☹️
I live in Montreal and only ever saw one Alfa on the road. You should have parked your CX-5 next to it. The shape is similar and I think the CX-5 looks better.
I agree, the CX-5 is definitely a better looking crossover. It was parked next to the Alfa all week in the garage. Good contrast of design between them.
I’d advise getting some elocution lessons and learn to improve your diction if you want to be taken seriously. Your command of the English language is atrocious. Also, you’re talking at 100 mph.
I've seen a few of them we have a Alfa Romero dealership here were I live Greensboro NC but it's not seen often like the other's and the sedan is like a unicorn haha smh
Around where we pick up some of the press cars is an Alfa dealer, so we got excited last Tuesday when we saw 4 of them, only to realize they’re just parking them around the dealership haha.
I don't think the CX-5 is better, it just is. The Stelvio is one of the worst vehicles I've ever driven, even the Quadrifoglio a couple months back was just a poor attempt at making a fast vehicle. Alfa Romeo really dropped the ball on this one, I guess that's why FCA has to merge yet again.
Styling of any Alfa is always going to be a hot point for some, it's why we were very careful when addressing it during this episode. You either love it or hate it.
I work in the style department of a big motorcycle company, and they claim they want to be polarizing. In my opinion you only make that claim when you acknowledge your self defeat, you should aim at building the best looking vehicle, everybody should love it, not half of your clientele. Alfa in the 50s till the 70s where simply the best, no other car company would be even close in terms of performances but they where also universally considered as top in the styling department. How is the styling now, look at the Giulia, a generic teutonic blend of nothingness, it suffers of a inferiority complex. The Stelvio doesn´t stand proud as it should, I am trying hard to like the styling, because I am in the market for a SUV, but I think I will have to go for a dynamically inferior vehicle like the Volvo XC 60, the Swedes are now leading the design field, not anymore the italians.
Administrator for 2017 new models sold in UK Alfa Romeo reached the 5th place for reliability, better than any german brand, Audi and BMW was the last and second last on the list lol... Reliability for italian car is underated meanwhile reliability for german brand are overated...
I believe this Alfa had 17,000 km on it when we dropped it off, haven’t heard of any issues with it. Last year the Montreal fleet had the Giulia Quadrifoglio, apparently they beat the living shit out of it for 13,000km and it had zero issues when it was retired.
the brakes on my Alfa Giulia are perfect with the electronic controls , all cars should have them, if you cannot get used to them ,you are a shit driver
At 2:20
That forward collision warninig / ACC sensor in the front bumper should actually have a cover!
(Probably some journalists took the thing offroad and lost it. And FCA themselfes haven't noticed yet, their press car is missing something...)
If someone already mentioned it: Sorry, I didn't read all the comments.
Not a problem! We did get one other comment about it, and it wasn’t until we looked at other review photos that we realized it. It’s unfortunate that it was missing, we feel bad bringing it up.
Wow, instant reply! Just for that alone, have a like good sir ;)
Greetings from europe!
Thanks! We always try our best to reply to all the comments we can, especially when we make mistakes!
OMG !!! 2:21 EPIC FAIL !!! You consider yourself an auto journalist ??? You can't determine that the sensor in the lower valence has been DAMAGED ??? YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME !!!
I imagine you’re the type of person who’s going to flood my inbox with comments throughout your viewing of this episode, rather than waiting till the end or replying to your first comment. Not my fault if the manufacturer provides a damaged car, but rather than getting all upset about it you could point it out like a normal human being. Looking forward to the rest of your comments.
You can get a Stelvio with a leather wrapped dash via the Lusso package. Probably best to know about the various trims/options available if you're going to be doing car reviews.
We mentioned it, we actually talk about the price for it too. Did you watch the episode, or just comment on what you wanted to hear?
After testing this vehicle, one thing it does is handle, I took it up Hwy 9 out of the Bay Area and it smokes the curves.
Agreed! We were very impressed with the way it handled, much more like a car than a crossover.
Um...0 to 60 in less than 6 seconds, not fast enough???
For daily life, absolutely! For $65,000, not at all.
It's the fastest in its class. A similar spec C300 is around $63,800 and slower. A similar spec X3 is around $66,100 and slower. A similar spec Q5 is around $60,000 and slower.
List price is about $42,000.00 US and with discount you can get into one for around $36,000.00 US.
These Stelvios are a dime a dozen. I see them absolutely everywhere here in Southern California. My uncle just leased a new Alfa Romeo Giulia, after his lease with a 2015 Lexus IS350 ended. I actually like the Lexus better, but the Giulia is really awesome too.
It's definitely a California kind of car! We're hoping they add the Giulia back to the fleet for next year, we'd really like to try that out.
Perpetual Radio Networks - the Giulia is a dream to drive. Same engine as the Stelvio, with less chassis to pull - I would imagine it is funner to drive than it's bigger brother. I never tried the Stelvio - but the Giulia is SERIOUSLY fun.
Your comment (AT 10:44) that it is not overly fast!! You need to do your research EH... It is the fastest of all the 4 cylinder luxury midsize SUV's.
0-60 sec in 5.4. It also handles better than my 2016 X3 which I traded in for this Stelvio TI Sport. You cannot compare it to a six cylinder SUV. Every reviewer has reported that it handles better than BMW, Mercedes, Volvo and Audi.
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People look at it because it’s a beautiful car! Bottom line! Prob one of the best looking SUV’s in any category!! Just my opinion..
Gotta get it in their blue colour, looks absolutely fantastic! We've requested the Stelvio and Giulia Quadrifoglios for the summer, they should be on the fleet within a few months. We're going to give it a second go and see if more power helps us enjoy the Stelvio more.
PRN_TestDrive I got my wife a White Ti Lusso and absolutely loves it!!
really not good information, you mention 280 hp but fail to mention the low end 306 lbs of torque. I test drove 4 other base suv's, the Alfa was the best driving experience and the most power.
I’m glad you enjoyed your drive of it. It disappointed us, and it wasn’t just one thing, it was the entire package for the price. It clearly works for some, as we’ve seen one Stelvio on the road since publishing this, so someone out in our area bought one. A lot of Alfa fans seem to be upset about our video, but we don’t sugarcoat our reviews, and constructive criticism is the only way the brand can grow.
I get it. Much of your review was not wrong. But I felt you could have honed in on the one thing I think and many think it does better then any other SUV and that is the "drive".
We just got off our week with the 2018 GMC Terrain Denali, and while it didn't have as much power as the Stelvio, we found the ride of the Terrain to be exceptionally smooth, leaving a lasting positive impression that the Alfa didn't. We're hoping to work with one of the Montreal area dealerships to feature a Giulia Quadrifoglio.
yes, but, the Denali is a completely difference vehicle. The Alfa is not a great ride because it is stiffer suspension made more for a track then a bumpy highway. So I can agree with you on that. The Denali is also a much heavier vehicle and just in a different class. The Ford Explorer is also a much smoother ride then the Alfa and is probably a closer comparison. Although it too is much heavier. Take the Denali or the Explorer around the track with the Alfa and compare the drive. Ultimately I do agree with your assessment except the power / torque information you left out and the comparisons to the heavier vehicles. The Denali is not a compact SUV made for a more high speed environment.
That's one of the reasons we'd like to get behind the wheel of the Giulia. Back at the start of the year we published an episode on the Jeep Grand Cherokee, and absolutely hated it, but then we took another go at a Chrysler product and loved it, and continued to be surprised by their other vehicles. I suspect the same will be true for Alfa's other North American vehicles for us. The Stelvio's chemistry didn't work for us, but we're excited to have our minds changed with other models!
I see Alfa Romeo Stelvio/Giulia and i dont live in a city... Here Alfa Romeo Stelvio is the most popular premium mid size suv on sale (Audi q5 on second place) Giulia is the most popular premium midsize sedan on sale, second place for Audi a4 (but mainly due to wagon version)
I would be very worried if Alfa wasn’t number 1 over there! The Q5 is a popular option here, the Québecois absolutely love Quattro.
Perpetual Radio Networks nee Audi slogan, Audi: born to understeer lol
Hahaha!
Perpetual Radio Networks you laught... But when an Audi overtake me, at the first corner he slam on the brakes, probably the know how Audi perform throug the corner :D
Tony x, maybe the Audi driver feels bad to leave you in the dust and is just waiting for you to catch up
My wife loves hers. She had an X3 and she is very happy with the simple controls.
Glad to hear it! The Stelvio wasn't the crossover for us, but we're glad others are enjoying it! We're starting to see more of them on the road out here.
In the US, Alfa Romeo had a sales growth of 230% on 2017, so it must perhaps be a Canadian peculiarity.
Our sister Channel PRN_tech grew 7,100% in the past 2 months, but it helps that we went from 1 subscriber to 72. A 230% growth in sales sounds great, but if the 2017 sales figures were already insanely low, it doesn't prove much. Our point with the title of this video, which often seems to sway people to vote via the thumbs down button without actually watching the episode, isn't meant to be an insult towards Alfa Romeo. Out here in Québec we see more new Jaguar F-Paces and even Maserati Levantes on the road than Alfas in general. I don't doubt that in markets like California where the number of Alfa dealerships is extensively larger you'll see more of them, but we produce a show in Québec, so we discuss what we see out here.
I apologize that I'm making your comment into the example here, but perhaps by pinning this some viewers will actually read both your comment and our reply and understand where we're coming from with this episode.
I'm sorry I don't know the Canadian auto market in depth, but I know that the US market is fundamental for Alfa Romeo, Canada, on the contrary, is marginal. Currently Alfa Romeo Stelvio and Gulia sell more in the US than in Italy, already an excellent result, 12,131 cars in the first 6 months when in 2016 in US they sold only 528. If you want to see some Stelvios you will have to go south of the border.
Good to know! And as mentioned, we didn’t want to single your comment out necessarily, but we’re hoping it helps others understand what we’re presenting here. Cheers!
I live in Canada and in my specific city i see alfas everywhere. So this is clearly bias. The Suv alfa is good selling Alfa is doing better than they ever were before.
So you must be in either Toronto or Vancouver. Count the Alfas, then count the number of BMW, Mercedes, or Audis from 2017-2018 model years on the road. As mentioned in Montreal and surrounding area we’ve seen more new Ferrari Maserati models on the road than Alfas.
In September, I drove from L.A. to cabo San Lucas, acd back. My first one was the Gulia 50k m. Then I traded in for my stelvio and allready have 53km, talk about a driving Nut, love for the curves.
I regret not being able to try out the Giulia.
I've seen a few of both the Giulia and Stelvio but only a few and I live near Los Angeles! I like the looks of both.
Seems like LA/California is the place to find these! We're hoping we start seeing more on the road out here.
Great looking vehicle
We like it, but we also know most people probably wont.
Well in America you can see GMC Chevrolet and Chrysler cars, so for ''some'' reason you guys seem to like them. Not seeing Alfas in the US or Canada doesn't mean they are bad cars.
We didn't say they were bad cars, we just weren't overly impressed with the one that we had considering the competition in this segment is intense with the BMW X3, Mercedes GLC, and Lexus NX.
On the plus’s you note engine performance , then you diss it for not enough; I’m confused. To get the numbers that the base Stelvio achieves you’d be in a much higher price point with competitors.
You're right, compared to something like a 2019 BMW X3 xDrive30i the Stelvio has more power, but BMW then offers the X3 M40i, X3M and X3M Competition, giving buyers plenty of choice for power. Mercedes is similar with the GLC 300, GLC 350e, GLC 43, and GLC 63 S. We were disappointed with this Stelvio, but we've admitted that FCA didn't configure this press car very well. The Stelvio Quadrifoglio is coming on the fleet later this summer and we plan on giving it another go with a fresh perspective.
How many base model suv's have a top speed of 144 mph?
Aside from Germany, how many places can you drive an SUV with a top speed of 144 miles per hour?
Almost anywhere in Nevada, Utah and Idaho....haha
Randy Torgerson illegally 😂😂
What is illegal?
Can go to a track like I did with my Mustang
The Stelvio has the quickest response compared to its competitors so I don't know what he's comparing the Stelvio too
What quickest response? What does that even mean, how fast the car accelerates when you hit the gas pedal? If you’re talking about transmission shifts, we talked about how fast those paddles are.
I like your review because of your straightforward approach. The reason the vehicle feels planted in corners is because the suspension was designed by the Ferrari engineer who designed the F40. Also, Alfa Romeo is a sports brand, not really a luxury brand. Maserati is FCA's luxury brand. This is really a great vehicle and unique. Lastly, the Alfa Romeo Giulia is ranked 3rd in reliability in Europe, check out Whatcar.com. Mercedes C class was 14th. The Stelvio is based on the Giulia ;)
I really appreciate your comment, thanks! It’s true that Alfa’s are more sport oriented, that’s why we’re very eager to get behind the wheel of the Quadrifoglios for both the Stelvio & Gulia later this year.
The title is BS. Cause i see alfas everywhere in my city. Including few of these SUVs few times a week. Dont use clickbait. These are very good vehicles. Pretty good mileage too for a turbocharged 4-cylinder
Not click bait, sorry. We don’t see any here in our market, which is where we produce this show. Since publishing this episode we’ve seen one more Alfa, it was a Giulia at the drag strip near our area. Your area might have more, as some commenters from the California area have mentioned they see them.
when people do a test drive they all gonna forget luxury and technology lol
Maybe in the Quadrifoglio, the normal motor on this isn't anything special, especially after driving something like the 2019 BMW X4 M40i.
12:27:. Wrong. There is an Alfa Romeo dealership in Quebec City. JD Alfa Romeo. Got my Giulia Q4 from them, absolutely loving it.
Strange, it wasn’t listed on the Alfa website, they had 3 in Montreal followed by Ottawa. We’re actually about the same distance to Quebec City as Montreal.
Perpetual Radio Networks - they are in Boischatel.
Good to know! Still, that only makes 4 dealerships for the whole province, and I believe across the country there are only about a dozen. I certainly can appreciate the difficulty of rolling out a relaunch for a brand, but that's going to be a continued struggle for Alfa Romeo given the extensive network of BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Audi, and even Jaguar dealerships in comparison.
tools.alfaromeo.ca/locateretailer/en/m.php#/lar?mode=locateretailer&backToUrl=http:%2F%2Fwww.alfaromeo.ca&retailerView=list&larStep=list
Groupe JD is listed
Also worth noting that the same engine is in the new Wrangler. You can go to any FCA dealership for service with no issues.
how do you like the seats? I am bigger guy as well, and was worried about the seats being comfortable or not.
I fit in them, and the Sparco race seats on the QV. They aren't the worlds most comfortable, but they didn't make it unpleasant. I'd recommend trying them out first as everyone fits a little differently.
Please , it is one of the best car that I ever have driven, so good that 2 weeks ago I got a Stelvio quadrifoglio!! the best!!!!
We're glad that you enjoyed it so much that you bought it. We drove the 2019 Stelvio Quadrifoglio and did a full episode on it. The performance is great, the rest of the vehicle experience is still awful.
There are a ton by me here in NC/SC because we have an Alfa Romeo dealer nearby.
The proximity of the dealerships certainly helps. We saw a lot of fleet Alfas around the dealer when we went to drop this off, all the salespeople seem to park them around to help with visibility. That's one of the issues we have though, out in our area with the 3 dealers it'll be very difficult to expand outside of the metro Montreal area for Alfa Romeo.
That front sensor shouldn't be uncovered like that
Someone else did mention that, and you are correct. This was how it was given to us unfortunately so either it fell off or broke off somehow during its life.
What are your favorite suvs in this segment?
Keeping it specific to the luxury market, we haven't driven enough 2018 models yet. We ended up comparing this Stelvio a lot to our $37,000 Mazda CX-5 off-camera, as we feel the CX-5 is currently the leader for compact crossover SUVs in the consumer segment. Sure it has significantly less power, but we feel you get more for less when compared with this specific trim on the Alfa. As we start to approach the change over for winter fleets, we'll end up getting a lot more crossovers and SUVs, hopefully by this time next year we'll have had the rest of the luxury market to compare with.
Umm, that sensor should NOT be exposed, I have a Stelvio...
Very true, it wasn't until after we dropped this vehicle off that we were notified someone had previously lost/damaged it.
I've actually seen 3 different ones in the montreal area I know they were different as they were all different colors red blue and white . That's still not many. I Actually like this however for 65k they need to update Nav. make interior more luxurious and have Led lights rather than xenon. Also adding 350 hp engine option as third option between this and full blown quatrofoglio may be a good idea for both stelvio and giulia.
These are all great ideas, I think Alfa Romeo should seriously consider them if they want this crossover to be successful. We did 'spot' several Stelvios the morning we dropped this off, only to realize we were driving around the dealership along Boulevard des Sources.
You don't have any facts just speculation
Do you have some ‘facts’ you’d like to share then?
Perpetual Radio Networks no i don't i see them in california gentleman made a statement but do you know sales figures is it a fact or thought
We don’t have sales figures for 2018, that would be something likely released after FCA’s fiscal year. We base this off observation in our province since we know it best.
you can consult sales figures for the month before the current one for every car of fca. how it's possible that i know that and it's not my job like your case.
Amateur review!
We put a lot of work into our episodes. Just because you don’t agree with what we found, doesn’t mean it’s amateur.
First, as an owner of a "17 Giulia Quadrifoglio and a '18 Stelvio Ti Sport, neither vehicle has Lane Keep Assist (LKAS) but rather Lane Departure Warning (LDW). The Stelvio is pretty quick as several base Mustangs, Camaros, and 350zs have discovered this. Also, I drove the CX-5 for 2 months and it is nowhere near as powerful or agile. The CX-5 does have one of the best ADAS visuals for the driver; however, people buy the Alfas for their styling and uniqueness.
driving dynamics of Stelvio vs CX 5? do u recomment a used stelvio or new cx5 ?
@@shabshah4705 night and day. CX-5 is capable cuv but the Stelvio is sports car that is slightly elevated.
I would recommend the Stelvio new or used you will enjoy it more.
Thank you.reason i m asking is every reviewer tell cx5 is sporty ...
Fair enough
This is a driver's car. Not for driving groceries or pets. The only downside is the infortainment screen. Set the music and just drive. If you want your bottom in butter get something else. Car for Alfa males. QV owner.
At least if the infotainment was a bit more functional we could live with it. We featured this twice in 2024 and it uses the same software from this.
@@PRNTestDrive Engine, transmission, shifting and handling.
Cheap Ferrari
A = Advanced efficiency
I knew it was something other than just 'A' 😛
All weather (rain, ice, snow...) ?
alberto arcudi sulla Giulietta o la mito si, su Stelvio e Giulia A sta per Advanced efficiency
Tony x - Vero...
Giulia & Stelvio: A = Advanced Efficiency = Eco Mode
4C: A = All Weather = Maximum intervention from the traction and stability control
Wait, where did you live before moving to La Belle Province?
We were in the Niagara region of Ontario.
It may be expensive but i love mine and it is an alfa, you look better then most cars because you drive and alfa romeo.
Fair enough!
maan you are often out of point...aah I do not want to even start..This, is the BEST SUV in its class. FACT. Check the infos about the car before you make a review.
Just because you like it, doesn’t mean it’s a fact that it’s the best. How can an opinion about something be constituted a fact? We had high expectations for this crossover, but it fell flat against something like a BMW X3. We hope Alfa improves the Stelvio through constructive criticism like ours, because the fanboys like you aren’t going to help make the vehicle or brand more appealing if it stays the same.
@@PRNTestDrive BMW? Really? I Saw a lot od reviews, comparsions and X3 nowhere near of best SUVs..just check other reviews..cause I think your opinion IS way to conservative with limited info and knowledge
Again, you're saying my OPINION is wrong because it isn't the same as your opinion. Let me put it this way, we picked up the 2018 Cadillac XT5 Platinum on Tuesday expecting it to be a boring crossover, but the interior and power is far superior to the Stelvio, which is essentially what we were disappointed with. Plastic interiors don't have a place for a car like a Stelvio, yet they made the interior feel like a cheap Toyota.
Perpetual Radio Networks i do not know as in USA, but in EU there is a trim level with dashboard covered in leather...if this is the only problem...No Im not sayin that my opinion is right...Im sayin that a huge amount of reviews have different opinion..reviews of channels and people, who means something in automotive journalism..
If everyone has the same opinion, why bother having more than one journalist out there? Everyone has different tastes, expectations, and experiences that all lead up to their own opinion about a vehicle. Just because a lot of other people love something, doesn't mean everyone has to automatically. I've mentioned it before, we drove a 2017 FCA product and hated it, but we had the chance to drive several 2018 FCA vehicles and found them to have improved on our faults. The same will likely be true for the Stelvio, if changes are made down the road as a facelift there's a good chance we'll enjoy it more.
You can't have leather on dashboard and doors where sun is constantly shining because you would be complaining in a year or two that the leather is cracked.
We’ve featured plenty of classic luxury cars, like the 2000 BMW 750iL with full leather dashboards that have no flaws in them decades on.
It's amazing how many choices there are for the ~$50k to $60k Cdn SUV segment. To those seeking a sports-oriented luxury compact SUV, I would likely recommend the Jaguar F-Pace and Porsche Macan rather than the Alfa Romeo Stelvio. I would even suggest the Lexus NX F-Sport, even though it's smaller (I think) and its front end styling is controversial, to put it politely. Based on style alone, I find the BMW X3 to be the most attractive of the group, and the one I would most want to have in my garage if I were prepared to spend so much money on a vehicle.
The competition is fierce, that's for sure. We see a lot of the Macans out here, so they sell well. We're also starting to see more Jag F-Paces, maybe a dozen or so this year. We were so excited to get this Alfa, but it just felt flat to us. There's nothing special aside from the badge, and it just wasn't enough for us this time.
There is absolutely nothing sporty about the Lexus
Great revıews!
Glad you liked it, thanks! So far the community seems to be split on it based on the thumbs down we're getting.
Perpetual Radio Networks no ı dont agree wıth them your revırws are great
It's reliability. I'm looking at the Acura RDX
That is the big question, is reliability. Something like an Acura would probably be in the shop less, but the 2019 RDX is all-new so there also could be problems with it that need to be worked out.
realiability it's a thing of the past but ignorant and not informed people keep saying it anyway because taking a look to some stats it's too difficult for their lazy ass
That may or not be true (all cars are way more reliable than the 1980s) but that's still the foundation upon which I chose my purchases.
I've had my Giulia for 14 months now. Though not too long but still Zero issue. Amazing car to drive!
Thinking of getting a Stelvio after my current other car lease is finished.
The least reliable brand by a long shot in surveys is Tesla yet people keep buying them. Check out whatcar.com, Alfa Giulia is ranked 3rd in its category and the Mercedes C class 14th. Also, Fiat is ranked ahead of VW in terms of reliability according to their surveys. People's perceptions of brands aren't necessarily accurate. Range Rover ranked the lowest for SUV's yet they sell alot. Marketing is a huge factor in terms of influencing purchasing decisions.
volvo has windshield wipers like that too.
We think more manufacturers should look into this system! We’re also hoping to get some Volvos come fall, going to put a request in later this month!
Perpetual Radio Networks Volvo s90 is so beautiful, also v90
We've always been fans of Volvo design language. At least exterior design. Their interior centre consoles from the early 2000s remind us of pay phones. Either way, we're hoping to get some!
Perpetual Radio Networks lol yes true, previous generation volvo's center console reminds an old phone with many tiny grey buttons and flat grey dashboard
Awesome appreciate the point of difference in your review heading ‘ epic fail or there about , ....had to take a loooook ...can’t say I’ll agree though ,thanks big fella
This wasn't the luxury crossover for us the way it was configured, but we have the Stelvio Quadrifoglio booked in mid September and plan on coming at it with a fresh perspective.
We love ours. Sorry no one else in my neighborhood has one, just me. Shame right?
It certainly stands out.
I don't see many positive reviews of Alfa Romeos but I see plenty of highly salty comments on videos reviewing Alfas. Point in case: this comment section. Wow...
Alfa, VW, and Subaru we’ve found are the three brands that have incredibly vocal fanboys who can’t listen to anything that isn’t a glowing review. The Stelvio was my least favourite car in 2018, but we’re going to give it another go later this year.
I love the title of this video
#it_is_true
#none_on_the_road
We’ve spotted one other Alfa since publishing this, it was a regular Giulia at the Sanair drag last Friday. We wanted to love this car, but just couldn’t ☹️
I live in Montreal and only ever saw one Alfa on the road. You should have parked your CX-5 next to it. The shape is similar and I think the CX-5 looks better.
I agree, the CX-5 is definitely a better looking crossover. It was parked next to the Alfa all week in the garage. Good contrast of design between them.
Antoine Pageau , Mazda has design team merged with Alfa Romeo since several years back, why do you think Mazda had a design revolution ?
You are way off. I challenge you to find sport utes at this price that are as exhilarating a drive. Speed, handling - sorry, go back to your day job.
BMW X3 M40i.
I’d advise getting some elocution lessons and learn to improve your diction if you want to be taken seriously. Your command of the English language is atrocious. Also, you’re talking at 100 mph.
OOF
Alfa just isn't the car for the "fancy" people..
It's for Doctors too!
I've seen a few of them we have a Alfa Romero dealership here were I live Greensboro NC but it's not seen often like the other's and the sedan is like a unicorn haha smh
Around where we pick up some of the press cars is an Alfa dealer, so we got excited last Tuesday when we saw 4 of them, only to realize they’re just parking them around the dealership haha.
Thinks the Mazda CX-5 is better. What a muppet.
I don't think the CX-5 is better, it just is. The Stelvio is one of the worst vehicles I've ever driven, even the Quadrifoglio a couple months back was just a poor attempt at making a fast vehicle. Alfa Romeo really dropped the ball on this one, I guess that's why FCA has to merge yet again.
styling is the only problem, seems designed 20 years ago
Styling of any Alfa is always going to be a hot point for some, it's why we were very careful when addressing it during this episode. You either love it or hate it.
I work in the style department of a big motorcycle company, and they claim they want to be polarizing. In my opinion you only make that claim when you acknowledge your self defeat, you should aim at building the best looking vehicle, everybody should love it, not half of your clientele. Alfa in the 50s till the 70s where simply the best, no other car company would be even close in terms of performances but they where also universally considered as top in the styling department. How is the styling now, look at the Giulia, a generic teutonic blend of nothingness, it suffers of a inferiority complex. The Stelvio doesn´t stand proud as it should, I am trying hard to like the styling, because I am in the market for a SUV, but I think I will have to go for a dynamically inferior vehicle like the Volvo XC 60, the Swedes are now leading the design field, not anymore the italians.
GIVE US MORE LEXUS
Lexus/Toyota is pretty much the only manufacturer who’s flat out said NO to us for press 😭
Lexus/Toyota is exactly what I want to see on this channel!!
Alfa Romeo really need to fix their ridiculously sensitive/grabby brakes and overall reliability!
Administrator for 2017 new models sold in UK Alfa Romeo reached the 5th place for reliability, better than any german brand, Audi and BMW was the last and second last on the list lol...
Reliability for italian car is underated meanwhile reliability for german brand are overated...
I believe this Alfa had 17,000 km on it when we dropped it off, haven’t heard of any issues with it. Last year the Montreal fleet had the Giulia Quadrifoglio, apparently they beat the living shit out of it for 13,000km and it had zero issues when it was retired.
the brakes on my Alfa Giulia are perfect with the electronic controls , all cars should have them, if you cannot get used to them ,you are a shit driver
They did over 10 years ago when the Giulietta was released. Alfa has been one of the most reliable car of the past few years. Get updated!
www.whatcar.com/news/2018-what-car-reliability-survey/n17826