Their upside down posturing is a non threatening move. Better way to respond is to stop. Disengage -they think it's a game. They will lose interest quickly. I've spent hours in the water with these creatures and they deserve our respect. Believe me they know exactly what they are doing. If their intention was to attack/damage your yacht... you wouldn't have it anymore.
I remember as a child going out salmon fishing with fishing in a 14ft aluminum boat with my father and uncle. A pod of Orcas came around the point and came right at us. A big male came so close that my father could have reached over and touched his dorsal fin. It was at least twice as long as the boat. A couple swam right under us, and a few others breached 30m away. We stopped and they swam around, so started up again and they just swam along with us for a couple of minutes then wandered off after the salmon. It was one of the most amazing events of my young life at the time. and never felt afraid. Years later my father told me that it was one of scariest moments of his life given that we called them Killer Whales at the time.
Somewhere back in the mists of time it got switched to Killer Whales from Whale Killers. The whaling ships hated orca because orca would interfere with their hunt. AFAIK there isn't a recorded death by wild orca ever. It's the captive orca you need to worry about.
They were trying to catch you for their submarine dome zoo. Where they make you jump through hoops and spin around before they toss you cheese burgers and slices of pizza.
funny idea but dolphins , toothed whales and even killer whales have soft foreheads whitch are more like shock apsorbers than rammers afterall these animals aren't realy built smacking into ships so all the attacks could be less effective than on a live target altho still quite scary
These are juvenile animals. An Orca's eyes are angled downward somewhat, to help the animal see what is beneath them. When they roll onto their backs they can get a better view of what is above them. This looks like a group of juveniles trying to play with something that doesn't understand their motives.
If these are juveniles this explains a lot. Any Countryman (or woman) will tell you that whereas adult sheep are docile and plodding, at certain times of the day, especially towards twilight, lambs will behave like young hooligans.
The people weren't in danger, at least not of being eaten.... These I'm pretty sure are juveniles, I had the same thought, I'd imagine theyve seen adults do similar things to sharks/whales and we're checking to see if this was food, had they stopped completely they probably would have lost interest and left, for the young ones it's very important to know what you can and can't eat....
I think you are correct. What the crew was worried about was not the boat sinking, but the damage to the steering/propulsion system. Which not only could be financially ruinous, but they would have had to arrange a tow in the open ocean.
The crew was worried about the rudders because they would have had to be rescued. The cost wouldn't be ruinous. Most yatchies build and rebuild their own rudders on their own. In this case this is a company that delivers boats for a living. They would have si.ply ordered a new one, and they would have insurance to be able to sail the boat as they don't own it.
this might be the same pod of orcas doing this in Spain, near Gibraltar. They travel north across the cost of Portugal. Marine biologists believe they might had a bad encounter with a yacht, while playing- and it turned their behaviour into attacking just yachts.
actually i heard it is because of the fisherboats which are fighting with the orcas for the red tuna there, as a result they manifested this behavior. They even know how to damage specifically the rudder so it can`t move anymore and since they can`t attack the big fishing trawlers (they would hurt themselves) they go for the smaller sailing boats
They damaged and sunk a sailing ship yesterday 30th of July around midnight, 6 miles off the coast of Sines in Portugal. 6 crew members had to be rescued by a fishing vessel working nearby.
When i was in my teens , I lived in a place called Tsawwassen BC , we would go out fishing in this 16ft boat and every so often there would be Orcas next to boat, they could have flipped us at anytime but they just wanted to see who we were and they went back to what they were doing and we would go home because if you see them , there are no fish there anymore, but they are beautiful to watch
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...
@@helenpierce-lamoureux3124 its 3 things pollution degrading their health food sources depleting and sound from human activity that prevents them from communicating as easily
I sailed a FP Antigua 37 round the world. Back in the day ,we said Orcas, and whales generally, are highly intelligent. If you simply start an engine, or better still both, then they will know you are a boat. And they do not like to eat fibreglass. This most definitely worked for me. And one very scary encounter was back in my student days we sea kayaked from Mull of Kintyre 22 mile across to Northern Ireland . 3 kayaks 2 miles from land. And 4 orcas circled us and one surfaced right next to me and i was staring into its eye. It was as though they checked us out. Decided we were not food . And went down to the makerel feast that is in the North Channel. They are famously still there 40 years later. The local fishermen told us they never attack boats.
Oh wow! I grew up in Antigua 🇦🇬! We had a little cottage there up the hill from Dickenson's bay. That was many decades ago and it was magical! My Mom was getting ready to move there fir good and sadly she died from a massive heart attack at 62.
So sorry about your Mum. That's too young! I loved Antigua, esp English Harbour,and down to Trinidad for carnival and hurricane season back in the 90's. But the Pacific was the best Good luck with your sailing . Good vids.@@meganruchwatercolors7186
@@jbbolts in the wild, i dont believe they have ever attacked humans, that i know of. Its weird. Almost like we have some strange primal bond with them (and other whales/dolphins) that goes back thousands of years.
Sound carries far underwater and a prop and engine make quite a racket. As you might know Orca's and dolphins use sound , echo location, to find and catch prey. Maybe the boats disturbe their hunting activities?
The rudders can produce sound too like a dog whistle. Might need to contact the manufacturer to research this. My rudders use to make harmonic noise I could hear at higher speeds.
I wonder if people will just do everything they can to avoid the truth. They are killer whales and can attack. They are like lions or mooses and humans have no understanding of them.
This is quite common in the Gibraltar strait. Orcas bite and broke the small ships rudders. It is supposed that this behaviour belongs to this family or tribe in particular along Portugal to Gibraltar.
@@andrewnewton9083 …well if the fish have run out…what would they still be doing there? I mean it takes massive amounts to feed each one….even the slightest increased problem would make them move to richer grounds…and not collectively hang around and tell anyone who is just passing through…how pissed off they are.
Maybe they are relatives of the orcas that were kidnapped during the 80s 90s that was sold to perform, orca kidnapping story passed from relatives and now they think all human boats are bad and are trying to attack 🤔😂
I dont think they are protecting the straight they are just starving. The more I look into that particular pod and that region it seems like a possibility that due to lack of normal food sources that pod has started seeing humans as a food source. Straights of Gibraltar during especially past 2 or 3 years has had many people crossing it packed on small rafts/boats, many of who go missing. Its just a theory but it would explain that pods behaviour. There seems to be a very strong narrative that Orcas never attack humans in the wild but due to overfishing of tuna in the region the Orcas are starving and with other readily and easily accessible food sources I just see it as a possibility that no one seems to be looking at.
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
Same bunch of teenage lads as in other incidents in that area. Some have reported that if you stop the boat in the water, play dead, they very quickly lose interest and leave.
The coast guard told these yachties to do that, but they only turned off their engines and continued sailing, which is why the orcas kept going longer than they normally do. These sailors don't listen and follow instructions well.
These attacks are all taking place off the Coast of Spain. So it is one pod, and scientists have noticed 2 of the Orcas that were attacking the boats were badly injured, most likely from propellers. Orcas are a generational learners, older ones will teach younger ones and so on. So these attacks are most likely a self defense mechanism against the encroachment of boaters into there environment after a number of injuries.
Orcas have a long history of attacking and even sinking boats, for some reason this area of the world has gotten much worse but there are many stories of orcas sinking sailing yachts in different parts of the world. There's a famous story in the pacific of a whole family stranded on a raft for 2months after orcas sunk their boat early 80's
@@richcherwalk6349 I saw an interview with the guy who was 18yrs old on that yacht. He said the orca was so badly injured it bled to death. That probably wasn't an attack. They probably hit the pod while they were sleeping.
@@gingerjessy Not sure if it was same interview but the one I saw said they were terrified the wale would sink thier life raft after sinking their boat. There are reported wale attacks on boats throughout history.
no..they don't play..they flip boats all the time and attack anything that moves..nothing is safe from them ...pfft and people are scared of sharks...these things were train to kill fellow whales for humans and gladly did it for thier brothers livers...look it up.
@@lawrencecarter8072 there are no reported deaths of humans caused by orcas in The wild only in captivity where they are mentally abused. Orcas are brutal creatures toward there prey but what do u expect from a apex predator. Only flipped boats have been fishing boats where seals have gotten into The nets and The orcas trying to get to them get ur facts straight.
Years ago, racing on a Sigma 36 in Portland Harbour, UK we had strange banging from underneath and the rudder was hit upwards repeatedly so hard from below that it lifted on its pivots each time and the stern rode up enough to feel it - then 4 dolphins surfaced around the boat - It was unnerving how strong the impacts were - they then swam with the boat for a while, doing barrel rolls in the wake behind and by the bow. I wondered if they were taking it in turns to scratch their backs with the rudder.
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...AS WELL, many have said they look like 'teen' Orca's so prob w/intent to play; mistaking rudder w/some other sea life; AND THEY ARE USED TO CHINESE MERCHANT FEEDING THEM OFF THEIR BOATS-LEARNED BEHAVIOR? I just don't think bc they are BIG and KILL FOR FOOD/DEFENSE they are the Ted Bundy's of the sea!
Things feel stronger underwater, because the vibrations move through you slower. This is a good comment, cz I was just about to leave mine, telling people to think of them as dolphins, cz they are. Fear goes away. ..... SBS, of course they get itches.
The only fear was we might have to throw the race because we'd hit something solid underwater like a submerged oil drum or even a container. We were a long way out and from the depth sounder we knew it wasn't the seabed. Just one of those weird and wonderful experiences - BTW we won the race and the series.
@@granthostheflatulent Well, sure, you're getting pushed by dolphins. What I said was, 'killer whales' = fear, dolphins = no fear If they had always been known as orca dolphins, they would have a much different image, not that it's that scary now, but....
I think you're right! I have seen the video that you're talking about where all killer orcas swim up to a floating iceberg and bump it and cause huge waves and with the seal on top to creating huge Waves on to the iceberg that pushes the seal into the water? So most likely the killer orcas think that the human are seals floating on top of an iceberg?
This pod of orcas doesn't have that skill set. Orca pods have different hunting techniques than others. Many of them don't even speak the same dialects. So, pretty unlikely that this pod knows how to use that technique.
@@davehart7943 That is true. Long ago an orca rammed a Coast Guard boat/ship at the dock in the harbor of Monterey California. I can't recall the details, but I remember thinking that Coast Guard boats generally have hulls that are stronger than the plastic hulls of many pleasure craft.
My guess: Permanent stress because of noise polution. Sound not only travels faster under water but further, too. A lot of creatures rely on sonic signatures when they hunt or hide from predators.
For the uninformed commenting about Orca responding to the boat's "electronics", no evidence exists to support the theory that Orca can detect the electric or magnetic fields produced by electronics - regardless of their strength. There is plenty of evidence, however, that proves they are sensitive to mechanical vibrations (ie. sonar) in the water. Boat electronics do not create mechanical vibrations in the hull or water that are comparable in amplitude or frequency to those transmitted to a vessel's hull that are created by sail rigging, rotating propellers, engines, or clunking rudders. The best Orca deterrent will likely wind up being a sonar transmitter that outputs high level signals at frequencies that are annoying to Orca - kind of like a boom box that belts out high volume hip-hop in the presence of your grandparents.
cj g sounds legit and logical... I’m guessing some frequencies/modulations/amplitude would get their interest and some would annoy them and drive them away. As you stated, I wouldn’t think electronics like a VHF radio or a radar designed to transmit through air would be detectable by any undersea creature.
If something was irritating them surely they would stay away from the source of the irritation? Someone, on a yatch, has done something to piss off the apex predator of the sea and the Orcas haven't forgotten and they're not forgiving either 😉
@@matthewwhittaker5428 I agree! Was thinking the exact same thing. If somebody has done something not nice to one or all of them either deliberately or accidentally and they are none to happy about it so they've got issues with any seafaring craft and they're letting the humans know about it. Or, it could just simply be young wipper snappers being naughty, getting up to no good, lol !!
What? Nice to see reports about KILLER WHALES so ppl can turn MORE AGAINST THEM? Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS?
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
@@marycompton7861 the question was damage to boat-not your world opinion on the seas and yet another leftist liberal view shoved down our throats. I agree that we crap on the environment, but you don’t have crap on a dude that is sailing the seas. It doesn’t solve anything to just continually attack someone. Good day!!!
I was surrounded by about 15 Orcas in a 19ft boat of the coast of British Columbia. Excitement quickly turned to fear when they started breaching right by the boat. We never had them bump our boat though, thank god!
thats because Europe coast has i guess....something like 2 billion yachts . And people start feeding Orcas...doing sh*t with them because of JEALOUSY and ...crappy education
@Zangief The Red They have stopped the attacks since there's way less boat activity due to the covid pandemic and also the government placed laws to stay away from the orcas. No one was injured on the attacks. You really think a boat is more important than a human?
@Zangief The Red Also, the orcas that attacked the boats were covered in bruises and scars - they were being constantly ran over by boats in the area and decided that it was enough. They were only attacking a specific type of boat because it was similar to the boat that attacked them.
VERY WELL COULD BE!!!! Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS?
It reminds me of the story of juvenile elephants harassing fully grown rhinos a few years ago. The vet. system finally concluded it was because they were "teenagers" and had never had an adult male elephant for guidance. They put them in with adults and it corrected their behavior.
Iirc male elephants also “come into heat”? Young elephants experiencing a massive testosterone surge for the first time would also explain such behaviour.
even far lower order creatures understand it when their survival is being threatened. Whales and dolphins have very large brains, they communicate at length, they understand all kinds of things - do you seriously think they don't know that we're killing their oceans ?
This seems to be a phenomenon off Spain and Portugal and mostly carried out by young Orcas. If one gets injured by a boat, the rest will attack the boat....for a bit of revenge, but only the boat. They aren't known to attack people like that.
Hello, I'm a journalist from CNN Portugal and I'm currently preparing a multimedia piece about the orcas in the portuguese coast. I need pictures and videos to ilustrate my article. Is it possible to use the part of this video that shows a orcan interaction ? I would be credited. Thank you
Scary. We delivered our boat down this coast this time last year and had dolphins with us all the way along the Portuguese coast. Now I'm thinking they were watching out for us 🤔
You think dolphins can guard you against orcas playing with your boat? I hope you are joking. Orcas have been known to eat up to 14 or 15 dolphins during a feeding session.
@@kevindinsmore2556 I've read that the feeding habits of resident versus migratory orkas are very different. In any case, I'm glad it was Flipper we spotted and not Willy
@@katamaranscom - If you still travel those waters you should read up on this. They have attacked over 60 boats now. A number of boats have had to be towed to shore. These are deliberate attacks that last hours. In June some sailors had to be rescued when they crippled their boat. Smaller boats were banned by the Spanish government at one point. It's pretty crazy.
@@AnyoneCanSee Yes, I have heard that the attacks have continued. We are based further up into the Med, this was our delivery trip and we were fortunate not to encounter any.
this was happening all down that south west European coast during their summer/autumn 2020 period but I do not recall any reports in 2021/22.....did you hear anything?
I'm from Spain, this things started in april/may 2020 in the Estrecho de Gibraltar and continued by the atlantic coasts of Spain and Portugal till october with many sailingyatchs(a competitive Sports sailingyatch from the spanish Navy included) the orcas involved are always the same two juvenile orcas from the same pod as marine biologist determined, always go to the rudder to bite and move It(even the whole boat was moved once in almost 360º), anyway orcas don't show any kind of interest in depredate nobody. By the day this pod is in a no determinated area in the Atlantic and usually they don't return to Gibraltar till spring, when red tuna entries at the mediterranean sea, so We Will see what it's going to happen;It is most likely the two orcas gets bored and old for this Game or less likely is going to become an habit for this orcas' population.
Update: 11/08/2021 Bad news, I read articles in spanish online newspapers, the pod is stil doing the same things and not only by juvenile orcas adult animals too, It's a very strange case for marine science, so the spanish Ministry About transportation don't allow Sailboats(15m length or less) around Trafalgar Cape and Barbate in Cadiz's coast, because by the news saids 56 attacks Were reported to the rudders of this kind of boats from march to this day. Spanish authorities are going to keep the prohibition at least till august.
I did know that Orcas like sushi, but if so, the Atlantic bluefin (the largest) is a highly sought-after delicacy for sushi and sashimi in Asia-a single fish has sold for over $1.75 million! Driven by such high prices, fishermen use even more refined techniques to catch tuna. And the fish are disappearing as a result. No wonder the Orcas are irritated with the humans. Cheers.
There was another RUclipsr “Newsflare” that has a video about this on 7/2/21 and they had damage done to their sailboat. They said the orcas are associating food or lack of food for them with boats/people. Hence the attacks. They said the pod of orcas were very aggressive. Their rudder was chewed in half almost crippling the boat.
Apparently that's how they prey on whales, first they bite their fins off so they can't move, then they eat them. Here the poor taste of rudder and lack of blood prevent the more brutal attacks that usually follow...
Maybe they are relatives of the orcas that were kidnapped during the 80s 90s that was sold to perform, orca kidnapping story passed from relatives and now they think all human boats are bad and are trying to attack 🤔😂
That seemed very territorial of them, The belly up is normally a hello signal. Question, is their a lot of fishing trolly's in that area?. Something must of happened to the pod or a pod member that triggers a response when seeing boats around them.
I am surprised that the Coast Guard did not advise you to heave to. It is believed that the Orcas are playing with the rudder, thus stopping all motion would hopefully make them loose interest in their toy (your boat). It is possible that it is a particular pod that inhabits that region and so they are likely to keep doing it. On the bright side, we now know the test results and the Lagoon has tough rudders!
Portugal has never had ORCAS( and it's a Portuguese word!), orcas only appeared this year (this summer) if they stay, they will certainly be protected, like all other animals, including wild ones.
There is a good book written by a man and his wife, who were sailing across the Pacific when whales sunk their family boat. Afterwards they spent more than two months floating in their survival raft, living on fish and turtles, drinking water from the desalination machines they were smart to make sure were part of their survival gear. They were eventually picked up just as they were drifting close to the coast of Peru. Unfortunately I can't seem to remember the name of the book at the moment.
You forgot to mention that sharks surrounded their raft and in a never before recorded event turned over on their fin side with bellies up and pissed on that man and woman . What I want to know is do sharks urinate unsalted water or salted urine ? In other words , were the sharks trying to help them or mocking them . Their story was in Sail magazine !!!
This behavior is similar to that I've seen when a pod attacks a Minke whale. They bracket the Minke and make assaults on the fins and tail until the whale is disabled. Under sail, you look like a sea creature. Bring up your auxiliary engine with prop engaged to around half power and they won't mess with you, the prop makes too much noise. I've had problems with big whales when sailing, they like to run right next to the boat, for miles. If a sperm whale pings you, you will feel it all over the boat.
They attacked while they were under power and were also attacked while under sail and they definitely know that's a boat and not a prey item that's normally on the menu.
@@savagedabs8536 Southern ocean pods are more aggressive than Northern ones. The area they were in is traditionally overfished, the pod could have been somewhat territorial. I haven't had problems with them, but my experience is Northern Hemisphere.
I've heard that the Orcas will leave you alone if you lubricate the hull with herring oil. It's supposed to be an old norwegian custom from the Viking age.
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...
@@mrlee2192 And I read about "attack", and I think its not real attacks for 3/4, just accidents and orcas never attack or eat human in wild. And they never eat human in captivity, they suffering a lot in captivity so its why they kill in captivity but orcas don't attack in the wild. For exemples : The orca attack on the arm of the man who caught crabs, in my opinion the orca mostly wanted to see what was in his little net. And for the others, the orcas have no doubt been angry for one reason or another. And for the best known, that of the whole family, I personally do not think it is true, if the orcas had really wanted to kill them, they would never have seen the mainland again.
I am not an expert but I cannot remember where I read about this happening more frequently. Orca actively ripping rudders off and attacking other underwater components. Some paper or article mentioned they were either unhappy with the noise it made disrupting their hunt or they know of being hit by a boat at some point.
They can and will attack humans when it suits them. They know that there are humans on the boats. There is nothing new in this and sailors have seen these since the first time man took to the sea's.
@@bighands69 of course they know we are on the boat but they are just telling us it’s time to go because of the noise and also a lot of times they have baby Orcas in the pods which they are very protective of.
@@charlesmartin1121 just spreading the word. I'm sorry if it interrupted entertainment. I mean that sincerely. Sometimes words don"t come across in text but I mean it.
I wonder if this is the same pod / same Orca's doing this repeatedly, or is it different groups. I'll bet this is the same whales repeating their actions.
The orcas in this location are very few compared to the rest of the planet. They used to be vast in numbers but because of overfishing and aggressive fisherman and loud obstructive noises in the ocean there are very few orcas in this location left. The have been starved to death by overfishing and the sound from motors in the water makes it more difficult to hunt. So yes, it more than likely is the same pod, as there are not very many left in this region.
How fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. The turning upside down and spy-hopping suggests they weren't being intentionally aggressive but more inquisitive and I guess had they wanted to do any harm, they could have wave-washed your yacht and been able to keep themselves out of harm's way. Really strange that they physically bumped and knocked you though and for that length of time you must have been scared shitless.
Yeah I am convinced if they seriously wanted to sink that boat they could but….. guess what? They drown Blue Whales. The notion that they cannot sink our Submarines let alone our tiny boats sounds absurd.
@@bighands69 I think in the History of Humanity existing amongst Orca they have never before exhibited such behavior yet you think this is aggressive even when they dont eat us....
@@bighands69 Orcas (or killer whales) are large, powerful apex predators. In the wild, there have been no reliably verified fatal attacks on humans. In captivity, there have been several non-fatal and fatal attacks on humans since the 1970s. ??
thats it ...thats what the experts say after a portuguese/spanish meeting about this subject ,,,as any wild animal , if you dont run , its better ,,,stop movingg, disconect eletronics, drop the sails...and pray :) heheheh scary indeed
what happens when you fire up the engine? At least you have a spinning prop blade to fight back against them. Or drop a 110v AC cable into the water connected to the genset?
I like that this video is calm and professional behaviour by the sailors, not what you see in some other videos that show off panic and attention seeking background music like a horror movie. Thank you for that video. I also think that it more was a behaviour of playing than an attack. Showing their upside down is like for a dog, showing the most vulnerable body parts which I think they wouldn’t do during an attack to get maybe injured. Also I think if they really would like to sink a boat they would…
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
Sure, as the "dog whisperer " replied when asked What did the dog say?..."I have no idea" Trying to attribute Orca behavior to fit your narrow perception of human behavior, is silly
The claim is that these Iberian Orcas (around Spain and Portuguese) are the only ones that exhibit this behavior and there aren't many of them about 39 individuals of varying ages. It's likely the propeller of a Yacht injured or killed a young Orca and this is retaliatory behavior.
@@MuantanamoMobile I think it’s because tourists in that area feed them to encourage them to come close. When they don’t get treats they get pushy. I think this is the only area this happens in but not 100% sure.
Before someone mentions "They don;'t make that mistake because they're much smarter than sharks", it turns out sharks don't make that mistake either-they bite people out of curiosity, not because they mistake humans for their usual prey. Also, shark intelligence is a good deal higher than often thought to be the case.
Cristina fultz - Orcas don’t see people as food and don’t have a history of attacking people even when they are swimming right next to one another. They are however very intelligent and manipulative hunters that will impose harm on their victims even when food is not part of their plan. That’s why I suggested they might be attacking the ship due to guilt by association.
Orcas are literally the world's largest dolphins, they love playing in wakes. You would've been better off stopping until they got bored and swam off. For what it's worth, they might've also been disappointed your boat didn't generate the kind of wake they really enjoyed. Can imagine an orca telling the others, "hang on guys! This is one of those fast things, any second it's gonna take off and then we'll have real thing waves. Any second..." A mediocre experience for everyone. Edit: Except the viewers. This was very cool.
I had excatly the same experience. But while lying on anchor, trying to catch fish. The shark research centre told me that that behaviour is out of playfullnes. Goodness, but at least they can take their size in concideration!!!
Yes exactly. I get nervous when Dolphins are around my kayak. They mean no harm but...they look so big in the water. 😂 So I never want to come across an Orca while in my kayak 😱
Orcas: We've been trying to reach you about your boats extended warranty
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“Pay up, Captain, or your vessel’s gonna get a huge ‘turnover.’”
@@justin2308 But the Captain didn't have a Walmart gift card ready.
I just scared the shit out of my coworkers laughing at this comment. 🤣
It was an Orca’strated attack.
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Their upside down posturing is a non threatening move. Better way to respond is to stop. Disengage -they think it's a game. They will lose interest quickly. I've spent hours in the water with these creatures and they deserve our respect. Believe me they know exactly what they are doing. If their intention was to attack/damage your yacht... you wouldn't have it anymore.
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that is so cool you've been around them
@FirstAnd Last and they have been exhibited to rape, kidnap, and kill for sport proving humans to be no different from other animals in nature.
Ok Jacques.
I remember as a child going out salmon fishing with fishing in a 14ft aluminum boat with my father and uncle. A pod of Orcas came around the point and came right at us. A big male came so close that my father could have reached over and touched his dorsal fin. It was at least twice as long as the boat. A couple swam right under us, and a few others breached 30m away. We stopped and they swam around, so started up again and they just swam along with us for a couple of minutes then wandered off after the salmon. It was one of the most amazing events of my young life at the time. and never felt afraid. Years later my father told me that it was one of scariest moments of his life given that we called them Killer Whales at the time.
"was never felt afraid"
Naive very Naive.
@@bighands69 Yes, extremely. We had many good laughs about how are our recollections of that day differed.
Somewhere back in the mists of time it got switched to Killer Whales from Whale Killers.
The whaling ships hated orca because orca would interfere with their hunt.
AFAIK there isn't a recorded death by wild orca ever. It's the captive orca you need to worry about.
Wow, what an amazing encounter! There was no need to be afraid- they were just curious and happenend to get some fish. :)
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They were trying to catch you for their submarine dome zoo. Where they make you jump through hoops and spin around before they toss you cheese burgers and slices of pizza.
I would do flips for cheese burgers
funny idea
but dolphins , toothed whales and even killer whales have soft foreheads whitch are more like shock apsorbers than rammers afterall these animals aren't realy built smacking into ships
so all the attacks could be less effective than on a live target altho still quite scary
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Or maybe they wanted to capture the yacht, put it in a 100ft pool, and let it sail around in tiny circles for the rest of it's life.
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These are juvenile animals. An Orca's eyes are angled downward somewhat, to help the animal see what is beneath them. When they roll onto their backs they can get a better view of what is above them. This looks like a group of juveniles trying to play with something that doesn't understand their motives.
If these are juveniles this explains a lot. Any Countryman (or woman) will tell you that whereas adult sheep are docile and plodding, at certain times of the day, especially towards twilight, lambs will behave like young hooligans.
Gold star. That sounds right. I can't believe all the idiots commenting, who think those people on board were in danger of being eaten.
The people weren't in danger, at least not of being eaten.... These I'm pretty sure are juveniles, I had the same thought, I'd imagine theyve seen adults do similar things to sharks/whales and we're checking to see if this was food, had they stopped completely they probably would have lost interest and left, for the young ones it's very important to know what you can and can't eat....
This is unheard of. Orcas don’t attack or eat humans.
Just playing.... still, may be dangerous if the rudder is damaged
they look like juveniles messing about . I dont think they were fully grown looking at the dorsal fins. Still an unsettling situation.
Bored teenagers lol
I think you are correct. What the crew was worried about was not the boat sinking, but the damage to the steering/propulsion system. Which not only could be financially ruinous, but they would have had to arrange a tow in the open ocean.
The crew was worried about the rudders because they would have had to be rescued. The cost wouldn't be ruinous. Most yatchies build and rebuild their own rudders on their own. In this case this is a company that delivers boats for a living. They would have si.ply ordered a new one, and they would have insurance to be able to sail the boat as they don't own it.
Paul Anderson Wood .....a bunch of bully thug teenagers. We’re familiar with that too.
@@LL-vj5yp Orca lives matter!!!!!!
this might be the same pod of orcas doing this in Spain, near Gibraltar. They travel north across the cost of Portugal. Marine biologists believe they might had a bad encounter with a yacht, while playing- and it turned their behaviour into attacking just yachts.
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@@Bontebok5 what if they only biologist in the sea.
@@Bontebok5 sorry, I'm not a native english speaker 😉
actually i heard it is because of the fisherboats which are fighting with the orcas for the red tuna there, as a result they manifested this behavior. They even know how to damage specifically the rudder so it can`t move anymore and since they can`t attack the big fishing trawlers (they would hurt themselves) they go for the smaller sailing boats
They damaged and sunk a sailing ship yesterday 30th of July around midnight, 6 miles off the coast of Sines in Portugal. 6 crew members had to be rescued by a fishing vessel working nearby.
When i was in my teens , I lived in a place called Tsawwassen BC , we would go out fishing in this 16ft boat and every so often there would be Orcas next to boat, they could have flipped us at anytime but they just wanted to see who we were and they went back to what they were doing and we would go home because if you see them , there are no fish there anymore, but they are beautiful to watch
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...
@@helenpierce-lamoureux3124 you’re onto something
@@helenpierce-lamoureux3124 its 3 things pollution degrading their health food sources depleting and sound from human activity that prevents them from communicating as easily
They were testing and learning watch how they killed there trainers at sea world
YOU DIDNT HAVE SONAR AND CONSTANTLY SCREAM IN THEIR EARS! IF SOMEONE CONSTANTLY SCREAMED IB YOUR EARS WHAT WOULD YOU DO???
I sailed a FP Antigua 37 round the world. Back in the day ,we said Orcas, and whales generally, are highly intelligent. If you simply start an engine, or better still both, then they will know you are a boat. And they do not like to eat fibreglass. This most definitely worked for me. And one very scary encounter was back in my student days we sea kayaked from Mull of Kintyre 22 mile across to Northern Ireland . 3 kayaks 2 miles from land. And 4 orcas circled us and one surfaced right next to me and i was staring into its eye. It was as though they checked us out. Decided we were not food . And went down to the makerel feast that is in the North Channel. They are famously still there 40 years later. The local fishermen told us they never attack boats.
Oh wow! I grew up in Antigua 🇦🇬! We had a little cottage there up the hill from Dickenson's bay. That was many decades ago and it was magical! My Mom was getting ready to move there fir good and sadly she died from a massive heart attack at 62.
So sorry about your Mum. That's too young!
I loved Antigua, esp English Harbour,and down to Trinidad for carnival and hurricane season back in the 90's. But the Pacific was the best Good luck with your sailing . Good vids.@@meganruchwatercolors7186
that was my understanding .. they basically never attack humans.
@@jbbolts in the wild, i dont believe they have ever attacked humans, that i know of. Its weird. Almost like we have some strange primal bond with them (and other whales/dolphins) that goes back thousands of years.
@@John_Redcorn_ like dogs... maybe to a lesser extent...and yes even wolves have been known to respect humans
If the Coast Guard recommends "turn off all systems," I'm wondering whether some of those systems are irritating to them.
Sound carries far underwater and a prop and engine make quite a racket.
As you might know Orca's and dolphins use sound , echo location, to find and catch prey. Maybe the boats disturbe their hunting activities?
The rudders can produce sound too like a dog whistle. Might need to contact the manufacturer to research this. My rudders use to make harmonic noise I could hear at higher speeds.
I wonder if people will just do everything they can to avoid the truth.
They are killer whales and can attack. They are like lions or mooses and humans have no understanding of them.
@@bighands69 Found the ignorant one.
i believe is that so they get bored and leave.
This is quite common in the Gibraltar strait. Orcas bite and broke the small ships rudders. It is supposed that this behaviour belongs to this family or tribe in particular along Portugal to Gibraltar.
Maybe the fish have run out
@@andrewnewton9083 …well if the fish have run out…what would they still be doing there? I mean it takes massive amounts to feed each one….even the slightest increased problem would make them move to richer grounds…and not collectively hang around and tell anyone who is just passing through…how pissed off they are.
@@zeroceiling they've been eating boats and plastic, the most important food groups of the day
@@andrewnewton9083 …well never thought of it that way….but then wouldn’t all the Orcas be heading off for the South China Sea?
@@zeroceiling true true, probably a media blackout on the abundance of Arctic animals chilling down there.:--)
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There is a family of Orca “protecting” the entrance to Gibraltar. I thought you knew that.
There are many other incidents, just like this.
Maybe they are relatives of the orcas that were kidnapped during the 80s 90s that was sold to perform, orca kidnapping story passed from relatives and now they think all human boats are bad and are trying to attack 🤔😂
Except this was off Porto, in northern Portugal.
I dont think they are protecting the straight they are just starving. The more I look into that particular pod and that region it seems like a possibility that due to lack of normal food sources that pod has started seeing humans as a food source. Straights of Gibraltar during especially past 2 or 3 years has had many people crossing it packed on small rafts/boats, many of who go missing. Its just a theory but it would explain that pods behaviour. There seems to be a very strong narrative that Orcas never attack humans in the wild but due to overfishing of tuna in the region the Orcas are starving and with other readily and easily accessible food sources I just see it as a possibility that no one seems to be looking at.
This was posted in 2020 when it just started. So they would not have known about it then. It has been going on since then.
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
Same bunch of teenage lads as in other incidents in that area. Some have reported that if you stop the boat in the water, play dead, they very quickly lose interest and leave.
Go swimming with them and see if they're really human loving orcas.
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So like, treat it like you would treat a bear?
The coast guard told these yachties to do that, but they only turned off their engines and continued sailing, which is why the orcas kept going longer than they normally do. These sailors don't listen and follow instructions well.
@@HUESEExJK only a brown though. “If it’s brown, go to ground. If it’s black, fight it back. If it’s white, say goodnight”
These attacks are all taking place off the Coast of Spain. So it is one pod, and scientists have noticed 2 of the Orcas that were attacking the boats were badly injured, most likely from propellers. Orcas are a generational learners, older ones will teach younger ones and so on. So these attacks are most likely a self defense mechanism against the encroachment of boaters into there environment after a number of injuries.
Orcas have a long history of attacking and even sinking boats, for some reason this area of the world has gotten much worse but there are many stories of orcas sinking sailing yachts in different parts of the world. There's a famous story in the pacific of a whole family stranded on a raft for 2months after orcas sunk their boat early 80's
@@richcherwalk6349 I saw an interview with the guy who was 18yrs old on that yacht. He said the orca was so badly injured it bled to death. That probably wasn't an attack. They probably hit the pod while they were sleeping.
@@gingerjessy Not sure if it was same interview but the one I saw said they were terrified the wale would sink thier life raft after sinking their boat. There are reported wale attacks on boats throughout history.
They look too small to be adults. Probably just playing
no..they don't play..they flip boats all the time and attack anything that moves..nothing is safe from them ...pfft and people are scared of sharks...these things were train to kill fellow whales for humans and gladly did it for thier brothers livers...look it up.
@@lawrencecarter8072 there are no reported deaths of humans caused by orcas in The wild only in captivity where they are mentally abused. Orcas are brutal creatures toward there prey but what do u expect from a apex predator. Only flipped boats have been fishing boats where seals have gotten into The nets and The orcas trying to get to them get ur facts straight.
You go for a snorkel with them then Tony Bruce Lee Quint Dixon!
@@pannkaka5138 u said it yourself..not reported...hard to report in the belly of a beast...or covered up..or in countries that don't report anything.
@@pannkaka5138 attacking paddle surfers..no seals in thier nets...
Years ago, racing on a Sigma 36 in Portland Harbour, UK we had strange banging from underneath and the rudder was hit upwards repeatedly so hard from below that it lifted on its pivots each time and the stern rode up enough to feel it - then 4 dolphins surfaced around the boat - It was unnerving how strong the impacts were - they then swam with the boat for a while, doing barrel rolls in the wake behind and by the bow. I wondered if they were taking it in turns to scratch their backs with the rudder.
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...AS WELL, many have said they look like 'teen' Orca's so prob w/intent to play; mistaking rudder w/some other sea life; AND THEY ARE USED TO CHINESE MERCHANT FEEDING THEM OFF THEIR BOATS-LEARNED BEHAVIOR? I just don't think bc they are BIG and KILL FOR FOOD/DEFENSE they are the Ted Bundy's of the sea!
Now I’m wondering if their backs itches ever.
Things feel stronger underwater, because the vibrations move through you slower. This is a good comment, cz I was just about to leave mine, telling people to think of them as dolphins, cz they are. Fear goes away. ..... SBS, of course they get itches.
The only fear was we might have to throw the race because we'd hit something solid underwater like a submerged oil drum or even a container. We were a long way out and from the depth sounder we knew it wasn't the seabed. Just one of those weird and wonderful experiences - BTW we won the race and the series.
@@granthostheflatulent Well, sure, you're getting pushed by dolphins. What I said was, 'killer whales' = fear, dolphins = no fear
If they had always been known as orca dolphins, they would have a much different image, not that it's that scary now, but....
Has no one in your company asked the question: "why are there orcas only attack these kinds of yatchs and ignore others??"
They got the american flag. Orcas are smart.
@@ceyrul2772 And they don't joke with their lives.
What color is the bottom coating? I read somewhere that some colors draw attention of predators.
@@ceyrul2772 Hahahahaha
There's research being done on that , it's kind of hard though since we don't speak Orca.
The Ocean is terrifying.
The second you step into it you're no longer even close to the top of the food chain.
I think they were trying to make you go faster so they can ride the wake. Literally asking you to play 😢
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@@d.b.4201 how you know? You speak orca?
@@masanchez1992 There are dozens of videos of Orcas riding the wakes behind boats. It's a documented thing
@@liamedwards7656 you’re making my point. I didn’t argue against that. I am literally saying what you are saying lol.
@@masanchez1992 Meant to reply to the other guy
Part of me was thinking, oh are they going to try and make a big wave like that one video with the seal on the ice lol
I think you're right! I have seen the video that you're talking about where all killer orcas swim up to a floating iceberg and bump it and cause huge waves and with the seal on top to creating huge Waves on to the iceberg that pushes the seal into the water? So most likely the killer orcas think that the human are seals floating on top of an iceberg?
They are trying to develop new hunting techniques for human! 😱😅
@@janred94 nah.
ya they havnt learned this behavior in this part of the world. that would work. lets hope no orcas are reading these comments.
This pod of orcas doesn't have that skill set. Orca pods have different hunting techniques than others. Many of them don't even speak the same dialects. So, pretty unlikely that this pod knows how to use that technique.
Terrifying that they could sink you if they really try.....so freaking smart and powerful.
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@@davehart7943 That is true. Long ago an orca rammed a Coast Guard boat/ship at the dock in the harbor of Monterey California. I can't recall the details, but I remember thinking that Coast Guard boats generally have hulls that are stronger than the plastic hulls of many pleasure craft.
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How on earth would you know they are playing around?
@@bighands69 They eat moose and seals on beaches. Why do you think they didn't do the same thing to humans on boats or beaches?
IDIOTS, WHY DID YOU NOT DEFEND YOURSELF YOU IDIOTS! How about a broomstick with a butchers knife gaffa'd to it. STAB STAB STAB
My guess: Permanent stress because of noise polution. Sound not only travels faster under water but further, too. A lot of creatures rely on sonic signatures when they hunt or hide from predators.
For the uninformed commenting about Orca responding to the boat's "electronics", no evidence exists to support the theory that Orca can detect the electric or magnetic fields produced by electronics - regardless of their strength. There is plenty of evidence, however, that proves they are sensitive to mechanical vibrations (ie. sonar) in the water. Boat electronics do not create mechanical vibrations in the hull or water that are comparable in amplitude or frequency to those transmitted to a vessel's hull that are created by sail rigging, rotating propellers, engines, or clunking rudders. The best Orca deterrent will likely wind up being a sonar transmitter that outputs high level signals at frequencies that are annoying to Orca - kind of like a boom box that belts out high volume hip-hop in the presence of your grandparents.
cj g sounds legit and logical... I’m guessing some frequencies/modulations/amplitude would get their interest and some would annoy them and drive them away. As you stated, I wouldn’t think electronics like a VHF radio or a radar designed to transmit through air would be detectable by any undersea creature.
Interestingly sharks can use electrical impulses to track prey.
“No evidence exists to support “. I never believe anyone who utters that phrase.
@@andre1987eph No one cares about your "beliefs".
Here we go. Mr. Know-it-all with a lot of jibberish and misinformation.
Orcas: "OI! Bloody noisy neighbours!? Turn it DOWN!"
Do you think it's possible the depth sounder is audible and an irritation to them?
@Justget Onwithit A sailing vessel cannot accelerate to 15 or 20 knots like a motorboat, if neccesary
@Justget Onwithit Propellers give them heart burn
If something was irritating them surely they would stay away from the source of the irritation? Someone, on a yatch, has done something to piss off the apex predator of the sea and the Orcas haven't forgotten and they're not forgiving either 😉
@@matthewwhittaker5428 Now marine biologists say that there are three specimens, two young and one adult, who is teaching them to attack sea mammals
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I agree! Was thinking the exact same thing. If somebody has done something not nice to one or all of them either deliberately or accidentally and they are none to happy about it so they've got issues with any seafaring craft and they're letting the humans know about it. Or, it could just simply be young wipper snappers being naughty, getting up to no good, lol !!
Are you sure that the coastguard didn’t mean that you should try to stop all movement? No motor or sailing?
Great advice by the Portuguese coastal guards because years ago I came across this issue and I was also told to turn off the engine.
Portugal 🇵🇹 is a fine country
Portugal looks beautiful. Would love to visit it one day, especially Porto 🧡
Great advice, turn off the engines so you don’t hurt the Orcas that are trying to eat you
@@joedirt1532 That's the risk you take when you go into their backyard. LOL
a load of buckshot thru Orca's head with a Remington 870 Mariner would have stopped it
Thanks for posting this! I saw the news articles, and it's nice to see a report directly from those involved.
What? Nice to see reports about KILLER WHALES so ppl can turn MORE AGAINST THEM? Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS?
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
Is there follow up info on whether there was damage when the boat got to the marina/port?
They took a bite out of the rudder apparently. 😳
Who cares 🙅♀️ the sea is their world .. not ours
@@marycompton7861 the question was damage to boat-not your world opinion on the seas and yet another leftist liberal view shoved down our throats. I agree that we crap on the environment, but you don’t have crap on a dude that is sailing the seas. It doesn’t solve anything to just continually attack someone. Good day!!!
I was surrounded by about 15 Orcas in a 19ft boat of the coast of British Columbia. Excitement quickly turned to fear when they started breaching right by the boat. We never had them bump our boat though, thank god!
They are slowly learning how to sink one of those vessels..
@MrSeek They did back in the70s - read Survive the Savage Sea by Dougal Robertson. Their boat sank in minutes.
@@the-fiddling-fox did not know that.. maybe this pod is learning how to..
@Robert Evans yup... They teach the little ones in the pods how to hunt.. Different techniques..ect
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I say to people over and over again. I wouldn’t be shocked if something like that is the case.
I’ve had a pod of Orcas swim along side and play off the bow much like dolphins do, but they never made contact with my boat. Very strange!
thats because Europe coast has i guess....something like 2 billion yachts . And people start feeding Orcas...doing sh*t with them because of JEALOUSY and ...crappy education
That's actually pretty common, orcas in the wild are known to protect or just follow humans, they are very curious animals
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@Zangief The Red They have stopped the attacks since there's way less boat activity due to the covid pandemic and also the government placed laws to stay away from the orcas. No one was injured on the attacks. You really think a boat is more important than a human?
@Zangief The Red Also, the orcas that attacked the boats were covered in bruises and scars - they were being constantly ran over by boats in the area and decided that it was enough. They were only attacking a specific type of boat because it was similar to the boat that attacked them.
They’re just saying “go faster we want to ride the bow wave”. Turning all systems off and floating isn’t playing..... so they swam away.
VERY WELL COULD BE!!!! Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS?
I hope you dry docked the yacht and inspect for damages before delivery to new buyer?
It reminds me of the story of juvenile elephants harassing fully grown rhinos a few years ago. The vet. system finally concluded it was because they were "teenagers" and had never had an adult male elephant for guidance. They put them in with adults and it corrected their behavior.
... single mom's sons problem ....
Iirc male elephants also “come into heat”? Young elephants experiencing a massive testosterone surge for the first time would also explain such behaviour.
they know we are killing their oceans, can't blame them for being ticked off ....
Yeah, okay.... They turned on the nightly new to find that info too I suppose? 🙄
even far lower order creatures understand it when their survival is being threatened. Whales and dolphins have very large brains, they communicate at length, they understand all kinds of things - do you seriously think they don't know that we're killing their oceans ?
@@Noscams00 And I guess those orcas found the source, a couple hippies in a sailboat
Pseudo philosofy
Who’s we?
This seems to be a phenomenon off Spain and Portugal and mostly carried out by young Orcas. If one gets injured by a boat, the rest will attack the boat....for a bit of revenge, but only the boat. They aren't known to attack people like that.
Maybe if you jumped into the water when they attacked rudder, you might reconsider the threat they pose.
@@Salmon_Rush_Die Why don't you tell the Spanish CoastGuard and tell them and all their marine biologists are wrong
You can jump to the sea to find out if they are up for revenge on humans.
Interesting .
Pay no mind to the smartasses.
Same comments many times below. Sems to have started in 2020.
Hello, I'm a journalist from CNN Portugal and I'm currently preparing a multimedia piece about the orcas in the portuguese coast. I need pictures and videos to ilustrate my article. Is it possible to use the part of this video that shows a orcan interaction ? I would be credited.
Thank you
Please email enquiries@halcyonyachts.com to discuss this.
I don't exactly think that this was an attack, but then again I didn't feel them ram my vessel
Scary. We delivered our boat down this coast this time last year and had dolphins with us all the way along the Portuguese coast. Now I'm thinking they were watching out for us 🤔
You think dolphins can guard you against orcas playing with your boat? I hope you are joking. Orcas have been known to eat up to 14 or 15 dolphins during a feeding session.
@@kevindinsmore2556 I've read that the feeding habits of resident versus migratory orkas are very different. In any case, I'm glad it was Flipper we spotted and not Willy
@@katamaranscom - If you still travel those waters you should read up on this. They have attacked over 60 boats now. A number of boats have had to be towed to shore. These are deliberate attacks that last hours. In June some sailors had to be rescued when they crippled their boat. Smaller boats were banned by the Spanish government at one point. It's pretty crazy.
@@AnyoneCanSee Yes, I have heard that the attacks have continued. We are based further up into the Med, this was our delivery trip and we were fortunate not to encounter any.
They just wanted to talk to you about your boat's extended warranty....
this was happening all down that south west European coast during their summer/autumn 2020 period but I do not recall any reports in 2021/22.....did you hear anything?
I'm from Spain, this things started in april/may 2020 in the Estrecho de Gibraltar and continued by the atlantic coasts of Spain and Portugal till october with many sailingyatchs(a competitive Sports sailingyatch from the spanish Navy included) the orcas involved are always the same two juvenile orcas from the same pod as marine biologist determined, always go to the rudder to bite and move It(even the whole boat was moved once in almost 360º), anyway orcas don't show any kind of interest in depredate nobody.
By the day this pod is in a no determinated area in the Atlantic and usually they don't return to Gibraltar till spring, when red tuna entries at the mediterranean sea, so We Will see what it's going to happen;It is most likely the two orcas gets bored and old for this Game or less likely is going to become an habit for this orcas' population.
Too less tuna left to bite, I reckon ....
Update: 11/08/2021 Bad news, I read articles in spanish online newspapers, the pod is stil doing the same things and not only by juvenile orcas adult animals too, It's a very strange case for marine science, so the spanish Ministry About transportation don't allow Sailboats(15m length or less) around Trafalgar Cape and Barbate in Cadiz's coast, because by the news saids 56 attacks Were reported to the rudders of this kind of boats from march to this day. Spanish authorities are going to keep the prohibition at least till august.
I did know that Orcas like sushi, but if so, the Atlantic bluefin (the largest) is a highly sought-after delicacy for sushi and sashimi in Asia-a single fish has sold for over $1.75 million! Driven by such high prices, fishermen use even more refined techniques to catch tuna. And the fish are disappearing as a result. No wonder the Orcas are irritated with the humans. Cheers.
Young bucks having some fun.
When ocra attacks:
Its a story about a Texas cafeteria specializing in fried vegetables
Was the boat damaged ? The coast guard told you to shut down your engines?
What exactly did you do to those Orca to make them “attack”? Who posted this, Sea World??
Exactly
Please don’t demonize these beautiful animals ❤️🙏
There was another RUclipsr “Newsflare” that has a video about this on 7/2/21 and they had damage done to their sailboat. They said the orcas are associating food or lack of food for them with boats/people. Hence the attacks. They said the pod of orcas were very aggressive. Their rudder was chewed in half almost crippling the boat.
Apparently that's how they prey on whales, first they bite their fins off so they can't move, then they eat them. Here the poor taste of rudder and lack of blood prevent the more brutal attacks that usually follow...
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 : I am intrigued by your tag name. Did you invent a smart collar for cats to track it’s whereabouts?
USED TO CHINA BOATS FEEDING THEM!!!!
Maybe they are relatives of the orcas that were kidnapped during the 80s 90s that was sold to perform, orca kidnapping story passed from relatives and now they think all human boats are bad and are trying to attack 🤔😂
That seemed very territorial of them, The belly up is normally a hello signal. Question, is their a lot of fishing trolly's in that area?. Something must of happened to the pod or a pod member that triggers a response when seeing boats around them.
You called it, the pod were attacked by poachers (harpoons) made them protective of all things entering their water.
"The belly up is normally a hello signal"
Typical hippy nonsense.
@@bighands69 the belly up, has been observed performed in social behaviors by orcas. In greetings among each others
What was the advice from the Portuguese coastguard? It may help others...
I've only been sailing about a year, I own a 25' Ericson and man oh man, I couldn't imagine how terrifying that experience would be on my little boat.
You're going to need a bigger boat😂
We are going to need a bigger boat
At least with your boat, you can raise your rudder and centerboard to avoid damage
I am surprised that the Coast Guard did not advise you to heave to. It is believed that the Orcas are playing with the rudder, thus stopping all motion would hopefully make them loose interest in their toy (your boat). It is possible that it is a particular pod that inhabits that region and so they are likely to keep doing it. On the bright side, we now know the test results and the Lagoon has tough rudders!
The water on the Portuguese coast is cold, but it is not so cold to be natural habitat of orcas!
Portugal has never had ORCAS( and it's a Portuguese word!), orcas only appeared this year (this summer) if they stay, they will certainly be protected, like all other animals, including wild ones.
ruclips.net/video/ZiJBcLgcOdk/видео.html
Sailers should realize they are invading orca habitat, not the other way around...
sailors
Interesting I bet your the only human whose home job site and route to work doesn’t “invade” nature’s habitat
No, Earth is our habitat. They continue to exist because we will it.
so what was the damage, if any? would be nice to be able to conclude if they were just playing or "harassing"
There is a good book written by a man and his wife, who were sailing across the Pacific when whales sunk their family boat. Afterwards they spent more than two months floating in their survival raft, living on fish and turtles, drinking water from the desalination machines they were smart to make sure were part of their survival gear. They were eventually picked up just as they were drifting close to the coast of Peru.
Unfortunately I can't seem to remember the name of the book at the moment.
The name of the book is "Survive the Savage Sea". There's even a movie about it.
You forgot to mention that sharks surrounded their raft and in a never before recorded event
turned over on their fin side with bellies up and pissed on that man and woman .
What I want to know is do sharks urinate unsalted water or salted urine ? In other words ,
were the sharks trying to help them or mocking
them .
Their story was in Sail magazine !!!
This behavior is similar to that I've seen when a pod attacks a Minke whale. They bracket the Minke and make assaults on the fins and tail until the whale is disabled. Under sail, you look like a sea creature. Bring up your auxiliary engine with prop engaged to around half power and they won't mess with you, the prop makes too much noise. I've had problems with big whales when sailing, they like to run right next to the boat, for miles. If a sperm whale pings you, you will feel it all over the boat.
@C B1983 group of killer whales.
@C B1983 a group of animals that are cetaceans i.e; dolphins, beluga whales, false killer whales and Orcas.
They like to surf the wake/displaced water...
They attacked while they were under power and were also attacked while under sail and they definitely know that's a boat and not a prey item that's normally on the menu.
@@savagedabs8536 Southern ocean pods are more aggressive than Northern ones. The area they were in is traditionally overfished, the pod could have been somewhat territorial. I haven't had problems with them, but my experience is Northern Hemisphere.
If this happens again you need to sing to them. No joke.
source: trust me bro
What sort of stuff do they like? I mean if it's female vocal solo then that could be tricky unless I get my operation reversed.
fascinating. like what kind of songs/vocal sounds would resonate with them?
Did you try turning off the depth sounder.?
Dreadful distracting music in the background
I've heard that the Orcas will leave you alone if you lubricate the hull with herring oil. It's supposed to be an old norwegian custom from the Viking age.
the orca whales could be dressed with great success and start loving human being they are very intelligent like dulphin.
Has Anyone checked into the depletion of their natural food sources-if THOSE are depleted? THIS SEEMS like BEHAVIOR MORE of messaging via desperation than INTENTIONAL HARM OR MEANNESS! THEY ARE INTELLIGENT but ANALYTICALLY CAPABLE? THIS IS BEHAVIOR IMO BASED ON DESPERATE...INSTINCTS!!!! I'M NOT SEEING...ATTACK!!!! OR, is it POSSIBLE they are TRYING TO SIMPLY COMMUNICATE? ARE WE MISSING A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY bc of jumping to conclusions and our own FEARS? OR they are mistaking the rudder as some kind of other sea animal to play with...
Just remember you were let off with a warning ⚠️ 🐋
NO because these orcas are just playful and curious or use the boat to go faster
@@Cocoon_Memelord how do you know
@@mrlee2192 And... How do you now orcas attack ?
@@mrlee2192 And I read about "attack", and I think its not real attacks for 3/4, just accidents and orcas never attack or eat human in wild. And they never eat human in captivity, they suffering a lot in captivity so its why they kill in captivity but orcas don't attack in the wild.
For exemples : The orca attack on the arm of the man who caught crabs, in my opinion the orca mostly wanted to see what was in his little net. And for the others, the orcas have no doubt been angry for one reason or another. And for the best known, that of the whole family, I personally do not think it is true, if the orcas had really wanted to kill them, they would never have seen the mainland again.
@@nopeno9130 I don't think Luna (L98 / Tsu'xiit) didn't like to meet people..
I am not an expert but I cannot remember where I read about this happening more frequently. Orca actively ripping rudders off and attacking other underwater components.
Some paper or article mentioned they were either unhappy with the noise it made disrupting their hunt or they know of being hit by a boat at some point.
They can and will attack humans when it suits them. They know that there are humans on the boats. There is nothing new in this and sailors have seen these since the first time man took to the sea's.
@@bighands69 There are ZERO recorded attacks of Orca's on man in the wild, only captivity.
@@bighands69 of course they know we are on the boat but they are just telling us it’s time to go because of the noise and also a lot of times they have baby Orcas in the pods which they are very protective of.
Seems like a depth sounder or fish finder pulse coming off a transducer might piss them off, especially if they're trying to get the kids to bed.
Did you think they might cause damage that could sink the boat? I've heard of cases hitting rocks knocking off a rudder or prop shaft causing a leak
About a week ago the orcas sinked a sailboat at Portugal coast.
Then there is me: Hey babies, can I pet you?
Boycott marine mammal shows and performing aquariums.
Yes of course, but what the hell does that have to do with this video?
@@charlesmartin1121 just spreading the word. I'm sorry if it interrupted entertainment. I mean that sincerely. Sometimes words don"t come across in text but I mean it.
@@genakrein9394 No problema.
Sweet to see some respectful replies. Gives me faith.
Where exactly is this "attack"? I do not see anything threatening here.
I wonder if this is the same pod / same Orca's doing this repeatedly, or is it different groups. I'll bet this is the same whales repeating their actions.
My bet is that it is the same pod.
They aren't whales they are the biggest of the dolphin family
The orcas in this location are very few compared to the rest of the planet. They used to be vast in numbers but because of overfishing and aggressive fisherman and loud obstructive noises in the ocean there are very few orcas in this location left. The have been starved to death by overfishing and the sound from motors in the water makes it more difficult to hunt. So yes, it more than likely is the same pod, as there are not very many left in this region.
Yes, same pod of three young males
@@Anmeteor9663 Teenagers lol
How fascinating and terrifying in equal measures. The turning upside down and spy-hopping suggests they weren't being intentionally aggressive but more inquisitive and I guess had they wanted to do any harm, they could have wave-washed your yacht and been able to keep themselves out of harm's way. Really strange that they physically bumped and knocked you though and for that length of time you must have been scared shitless.
the rate of those strikes is not consistent with an attack . But '' REPORTING'' is reporting ...nothing to be done :)
Yeah I am convinced if they seriously wanted to sink that boat they could but….. guess what? They drown Blue Whales. The notion that they cannot sink our Submarines let alone our tiny boats sounds absurd.
"suggests they weren't being intentionally aggressive"
I think the banging into the boat suggests otherwise.
@@bighands69 I think in the History of Humanity existing amongst Orca they have never before exhibited such behavior yet you think this is aggressive even when they dont eat us....
@@metalgear- sink submarines?! Dude, really? 🤦♂️
Used to kayak with orcas of the coast of BC, never had any issues, they were curious but careful. This is crazy to see.
maybe they don't like rich people on yachts
Typical animal lover response. They are wild and can attack that is it.
@@bighands69 Orcas (or killer whales) are large, powerful apex predators. In the wild, there have been no reliably verified fatal attacks on humans. In captivity, there have been several non-fatal and fatal attacks on humans since the 1970s.
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@@bighands69 very few instances in the wild documented though. We are just not worth the energy it would take to chew us up.
@@bighands69 maybe one but not a pod.
The banging sounded like it was added not part of the original video.
by far the most bizarre story I have seen in a long time.
Have you been sleeping through the Covid scam ?
''ONLY IN EUROPE'' trademark
Thank goodness there's finally respect for other creatures that share this planet. Back in the day they would have killed these beautiful sea wolves.
They still do, I believe. The whaling ships from Norway and Japan with harpoon guns to hunt whales. There are also illegal poachers out there.
@@starwarsrebel2006 jeez..........you seem to be a real winner here. Idiot would be my guess.
@@turbo1331 Better get your head examined. In Japan, they eat whale meat. Whales are still hunted today, legally and illegally.
what i have read, turn off all electronics and motor and drop sails basically stop moving.
thats it ...thats what the experts say after a portuguese/spanish meeting about this subject ,,,as any wild animal , if you dont run , its better ,,,stop movingg, disconect eletronics, drop the sails...and pray :) heheheh scary indeed
@johnny cash
I see your still rocking the boat ( so to speak, lol ) from the other side, Mr Johnny Cash, pml. !! 👍😂
@johnny cash
Lol
what happens when you fire up the engine? At least you have a spinning prop blade to fight back against them. Or drop a 110v AC cable into the water connected to the genset?
I like that this video is calm and professional behaviour by the sailors, not what you see in some other videos that show off panic and attention seeking background music like a horror movie. Thank you for that video. I also think that it more was a behaviour of playing than an attack. Showing their upside down is like for a dog, showing the most vulnerable body parts which I think they wouldn’t do during an attack to get maybe injured. Also I think if they really would like to sink a boat they would…
This was a perfect situation to off your spouse if you wanted to. All you had to do was push her in and no one would be the wiser. You could tell the authorities "she slipped" or "she was knocked off board." Seriously this was a gift from the heavens, and a missed opportunity!
@@drakelondon6849 I guess the marriage counselling didn't work.
Sure, as the "dog whisperer " replied when asked What did the dog say?..."I have no idea" Trying to attribute Orca behavior to fit your narrow perception of human behavior, is silly
That is scary hearing them banging around down there not knowing what they are up to but exhilarating to be so close to the huge ocean creatures.
The claim is that these Iberian Orcas (around Spain and Portuguese) are the only ones that exhibit this behavior and there aren't many of them about 39 individuals of varying ages. It's likely the propeller of a Yacht injured or killed a young Orca and this is retaliatory behavior.
@@MuantanamoMobile I think it’s because tourists in that area feed them to encourage them to come close. When they don’t get treats they get pushy. I think this is the only area this happens in but not 100% sure.
They were probably associating the boat with someone who had done something to them in the past. I seriously doubt they perceived the boat as food.
No,
Not the vessel as food .
The people aboard ,, they would eat
Before someone mentions "They don;'t make that mistake because they're much smarter than sharks", it turns out sharks don't make that mistake either-they bite people out of curiosity, not because they mistake humans for their usual prey. Also, shark intelligence is a good deal higher than often thought to be the case.
Cristina fultz - Orcas don’t see people as food and don’t have a history of attacking people even when they are swimming right next to one another.
They are however very intelligent and manipulative hunters that will impose harm on their victims even when food is not part of their plan. That’s why I suggested they might be attacking the ship due to guilt by association.
Biologist here. NO some fishermen feed them. They were signaling to boat occupants to give them fish.
I have recently heard that if you hove to that they will grow board and leave
Grow bored or grow a beard? I don't mean to criticize your spelling, I was just honestly confused reading through your comment initially.
@@MrGentlebutfirm A beard, obviously. Duh!
Grow up
Orca`s with wood?Sounds dangerous!
They know you went to Seaworld !!!
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🤣🤣🤣
Orcas are literally the world's largest dolphins, they love playing in wakes. You would've been better off stopping until they got bored and swam off.
For what it's worth, they might've also been disappointed your boat didn't generate the kind of wake they really enjoyed. Can imagine an orca telling the others, "hang on guys! This is one of those fast things, any second it's gonna take off and then we'll have real thing waves. Any second..." A mediocre experience for everyone. Edit: Except the viewers. This was very cool.
I think I'm not 4sure but is there commercial fishing ships on your path... the orcas might be thinking we're is the chum to eat ???
Probably some young Orcas doing the Orca equivalent of the knock-out game, just being inquisitive and ornery.
Thanks for not harming these creatures. It’s just a playful move I guess
They have already been harmed. This is an unnatural pod of three juveniles, without adults to teach them how to survive. They are doomed.
The whales know that these things are hard on the outside but chewy on the inside. 😆
The dolphins KNOW that they have to receive their bits of food after chasing a boat :)
but yes it wasnt a pleasant feeling for those two ...should i say martians ? Yeah i bellieve they are Halcyon martians coming to visit....us!
Are you sure they weren't scratching an itch or rubbing off dead skin or parasites?
Those were juveniles if you look at there size. And I’ve been within feet of them in the wild in Antarctica
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Ah maties, this reminds me of the time we were sailing the SS Sea Clam hunter off of Beaver's Bay....
Yaarr, oi bet the old peg-leg saw some action that day!
I see what you did there😆
Drop the pirate act finally and come out of the basement. Your family misses the old you.
Seems like someone less patient probably did something to them in a similar sized boat
you're close ;)
What noise was your boat giving out?
They wanted a relationship and you blew it
Orcas are the ones who blew it...they literally blew it out their blow holes
Swimming upside down under the boat - perhaps they are attracted by the rudder/keel
The guy is British. The Orcas are French. Macron sent them. They're pissed off about the no-deal Brexit. 😉 👍🏼 😂
French fishermen try these tactics until we get pissed of and retaliate,then they crap their pants and leg it,
I don't trust Macron and his fake propaganda covid 21 haha
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So where exactly was the "attack" ?
Put a long piece of PVC tube in the water and try talking to them throuigh it.
Jump in and try to communicate …. I’m a friend of Dawn.
I had excatly the same experience. But while lying on anchor, trying to catch fish. The shark research centre told me that that behaviour is out of playfullnes. Goodness, but at least they can take their size in concideration!!!
Imagine being in a kayak and this happens💀
Yes exactly. I get nervous when Dolphins are around my kayak. They mean no harm but...they look so big in the water. 😂 So I never want to come across an Orca while in my kayak 😱
@@GulfCoastTim i dont want any big brain creature around me period. no need to test their limits with me thanks...
@@iloveblondy Would you rather a small brain white shark?
@@GulfCoastTim orcas are harmless to humans in the wild, if anything they like us
Did you run your engines in gear at all?