Apologies for the Uncle Phil scene being cut out. We wanted to keep it in but RUclips wouldn't let us sadly 😟 That scene really touched us both personally, and if you wanted to view it for yourself, it's Season 4 Episode 24 of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air titled "Papa's Got a Brand New Excuse." Also please let us know if you'd be interested in us setting up an alternative viewing site like a Patreon where we can show clips in full context without having to navigate around RUclips's system 🙏
Just gotta say, i love the way you can explore therapy and psychology through fictional characters. The fictional characters and stories makes it much easier to understand. From the therapist; we get WHY characters take certain actions. From the filmmaker, we get HOW these actions are expressed. When put together, it can lead to good or bad storytelling. By comparing fictional characters and stories, we can see exactly why similar stories fail and others succeed through psychology and filmmaking. You guys can express the same opinions as the audience, but break down why we feel that way. It's suprising how much psychology the audience picks up on, we just don't have the expertise to express it correctly. Anyways, keep up the good work. I have no doubt you guys will be big in the future.
I need to take your comment and use it as the description for the channel! Super kind and insightful breakdown! 🤯 Totally agree, the audience is aware of so much of what's happening under the surface even if they can't articulate it. Curtis and I will keep doing our best to handle that part of the equation 😄 Thanks for believing in us 🙏
I just graduated with a bachelors in psych and will soon be doing a masters to become a therapist and this is the exact kind of podcast that I would love to make. I have listened to every episode so far and I am looking forward to many more!
Where’d you guys go?! This channel’s helped me understand mental health and storytelling better and I find myself rewatching these podcasts and I would love to hear more from you guys.
We're back! Had to take some time off but we've got a new episode out and more on the way. Thanks so much for watching, its super encouraging to hear us having these conversations feels meaningful or helpful in any way!!
I cannot tell you how refreshing that shot of Naruto in the water is after experiencing countless examples of bewildering/misused dutch angles. Didn't appreciate it at the time I first watched that part in the show, but looking at it again years later, and even more so taking into account what you said about the great difficulty of trying to achieve such a thing outside of animation, it really nailed what the feelings and ideas it was going for (and more). You both made excellent points about its artistic and narrative functions. Edit: Correct me if I'm inaccurate about it being a dutch angle or not. It seems like one to me, but also... something else, and if there's another term for it I don't know what it is. Regardless, I still think it does the whole portrayal of 'psychological uneasiness' / 'psychological tension' thing better than many attempts at dutch angles.
So glad you feel the same way about it! Yeah nothing feels worse than an out of place dutch angle 😂 Glad I could show you why I loved that shot so much and super glad it resonated with you 🙏 And you're correct 😄 it has other names like German angle or Oblique angle but Dutch angle / tilt is the most common variation other than just calling it "off axis" Thanks for joining us on this journey!
As someone who had an estranged relationship with their father for many years, looking at anime and media and seeing what good fathers and father figures look like. Thank you for this episode and bringing all of my favorites together ❤
I do believe this conversation NEEDS a PART 2 - Showcasing specifically ASKELLAD and PICCOLO as father figures, or unlikely father figures who step in.
@@FrameOfMindBrosyes! When you were talking about the question from the orphan girl, all my brain kept going back to was little Gohan and how Piccolo stepped in to take on the role (even if it wasn’t his original intent and started out initially selfish). Whether he meant to or not, Piccolo taught this young vulnerable child who just lost his father to violence, not just how to fight, but how to survive, how to be independent and take responsibility. Piccolo’s influence was so impactful that in the fight against the Saiyans just the threat of Piccolo’s disapproval/disappointment is enough for Gohan to overcome his own understandable fears in an overwhelming threatening situation to try and take action. And when his father is alive but his mentor is dead, Gohan decides to take action for the sake of his mentor even though he is fully within his rights to stay home safe with his now reunited biological family. Why? Because in his mind, Piccolo’s death is his responsibility and so Gohan needs to be the one to bring him back. Gohan decided on his own to travel to his mentor’s ancestral homeland in a quest to bring Piccolo back to life while his father was still recuperating in a hospital. That just speaks volumes to me.
@@FrameOfMindBros Hacks on Max would be great for this if you end up doing it. In terms of feminine archetypes and female relationships it’s so well done!
Another great discussion from you guys!!! There is a character in one piece that just recently had his backstory showed to us, it was kuma, i really would like to hear you guys analysing him, his story as a person and as a father since he is so interesting and have much more Layers than we expected.
Thanks so much! I have a very strong suspicion we’ll be talking about Kuma right around the time the Egghead arc in the anime reaches where the manga is now ❤️🐾😭
You guys deserve way more attention. This podcast is great, and it actually made me reflect on my own relationship with my father. Seriously, great work guys.
Thank you so much! We deeply appreciate it ❤️. It's always encouraging to know at least a few people watching have the kind of experience you described, it's a much better measurement that we're on the right track than our subscriber count ever will be 😁🫡
An important thing to understand about Gohan is that he never wanted to fight. When he's introduced in episode 1 of the series he says he wants to go to school, study hard, and become a doctor. The reason Chichi keeps Goku from training Gohan to fight is because it would be a distraction from the life he wants for himself. She only cares about Gohan's grades as much as she does because Gohan wants to be a scholar. At the start of the Buu saga we find that Gohan has become rusty because, in the aftermath of the fight with Cell, he stopped training to try living a relatively normal life as a student. Goku and Gohan are fundamentally different characters. Goku enjoys fighting and is constantly seeking to test his strength against the strongest opponents he can find. He wants to be pushed beyond his limits and find greater strength within himself, and he believes he has seen the same in Gohan who has on several occasions shown outbursts of incredible power that prove he has incredible potential. What he fails to realize, though, is that Gohan does not enjoy fighting, and these outbursts of power have only ever surfaced when he is desperate to save his friends or family from suffering. It could be said that Goku is selfish when it comes to fighting, while Gohan is entirely selfless. Goku would have absolutely loved to fight a full-powered Cell and perhaps, from his perspective, he might have seen sending Gohan to fight and then tossing Cell a senzu bean to be a gift in some weird way. But to Gohan the scenario was a traumatically terrifying nightmare that he wanted no part of. Gohan doesn't have the drive to defeat Cell for his own sake in a one-on-one fight, especially while everyone he cares about is watching safely from the sidelines. Piccolo, who understands Gohan better than his own father does, comments at one point that Gohan is probably thinking something along the lines of, "Why are they just standing there and watching me suffer? Is a fair fight more important that my life?" The only reason Gohan ever stood a chance was because Cell happened to share Goku's desire to fight opponents at their strongest, while also understanding what drives Gohan better than his own father does. Cell created minions to attack the other fighters on the sidelines for the sole purpose of triggering Gohan's need to protect others and push him to his full potential. Had he only been interested in defeating Gohan, rather than being tempted to see Gohan at the height of his power, he would easily have won. As far as Gohan is concerned, Goku has only ever seemed to care about seeing him grow up to be a powerful fighter. Gohan has never been secretive about wanting to be a scholar and not wanting to fight, but Goku doesn't seem to care that much about what his son wants. Maybe, being a full-blooded saiyan, he's simply incapable of comprehending that Gohan would want to do anything other than becoming the strongest fighter he can be. At any rate, Goku fails to understand Gohan at a fundamental level the way several other characters are shown to understand him, and this flaw of Goku's character ultimately resulted in him putting his son in mortal danger with the fate of the world hanging over his head.
1:02:50 I usually see this as Goku being a bad father. This act usually would be objectively good, but as Piccolo later points out, Gohan doesn't have the temperament to take up his father's mantel. It's a vital piece of knowledge that Goku lacks because even when he is physically there, he is unaware of the internal world of his children. Even more than his absence, it's his lack of curiosity about his son's that makes Goku a dubious father in my eyes.
Uncle Phil was the Shikaku to Will’s Shikamaru in that scene, just letting him know it’s ok to get emotional, to be sad and angry out loud. Just being there for your son is enough, ready to pick him up when he’s done.
Well this is a channel im gonna binge now... I first got to know about archetypes when i met my wife who was/is into creative writing. When she found out, that i had bloodvtype 0 res negative she bursted out laughing. "Its as if you were a character written by a bad writer to drive the point home, that you are a supporting character. (...) you play support in games like dota, you are the middle child, you are not sure if you want kids of your own, you are the goalkeeper in your handball team and now you even have the bloodtype that can donate to every other bloodtype but who can only recive blood from a very select few." Ngl. She had a point. :D
Glad you found us! Sounds like you’ve got a role you’ve carved out for yourself in life 😂 the only question is: do you want that archetype, or is there any part of you that feels unrepresented and wants to add to or change part of what is current? 🤔
@@FrameOfMindBros my wife tought me to take up a bit more space for myself, resulting in me doing my a-levels at the age of 28 and proceeding to start university for construction engineering. Still very much a supporter but with goals of my own now. As my grandfather used to say:"there are two type if relationships, those where the girl is in charge and those that don't work."
Hot take. The whole Pain encounter was executed really well. The fight looks jank and poor, but where it counts the most is where the budget went. The fight might be the climax and the peak of emotion, normally. But in this fight, and in most fights in Naruto, the climax of the scene is when Naruto executes his Talk no-Jitsu and you get these wonderful scenes where you feel the empathy Naruto feels towards his enemy. Naruto may be ninja Jesus, but just as Jesus's super power is empathy and shouldering the burden, so is Naruto's true power. The Talk no-Jitsu may be a meme, but it is really his most powerful ability. Naruto brings Zabusa to the realm of the living and realizing his love for Haku, that then saves the Bridge village. Naruto shows Gara how to love where Gara hates, even when the two are just like the other. And this carry all the way trough the show, when his final challenge is empathizing with the Big Bad Evil Guy, Madara. And then finally the rematch at the waterfall with Zasuke where the two finally overcomes their differences and mend their divide that might have been broken forever. Naruto might be the strongest Ninja to ever be, but that is not his strength. His true power is empathy.
This was a beautiful video to watch. I came for Thors because Vinland saga has some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. Looking forward to more content :)
The whole empty chair/ unfinished business, recreating. Reminded me the scene in Parasyte(the anime) where shinichi is able to regain his emotions after the parasyle lady put on the face of his mom. If ever you guys want to do an episode on that.
I think the slight creepiness of the naruto underwater, is that when someone is subjecting themselves to discomfort or pain, but not doing anything to relieve it; shows that there is something else psycologically going on to where one is not caring to relieve their discomfort. Kind of like they are numb or rebellious or might do something rash due to this,. You might think, "If they dont care about taking care of their own pain, then they might not care about my own either, threrfore I might be in danger.
I wonder if we will ever have a manga be adapted to its actual true length into anime. An anime that takes 1 chapter (1 chapter length 9 minutes) and then make the episode ~9minutes
I have to imagine the biggest hurdle to that would just be how expensive it would be to make. But it would be amazing to see a 1:1 adaptation, I'm thinking about something like Vagabond.
@@FrameOfMindBros it would be cheaper just not in the time constraints, they have to have the episodes a certain length for the program to be regularly scheduled sadly which makes some scenes janky
Vegeta is terrible but Goku was always a good dad, he chose to stay dead because he always attracted evil strong fighters which is true. He died 2 in the entire franchise & both times were when he was protecting his son. Even after he died against cell he was still supporting & encouraging his son from death.
People reaaaaally dont get the animated fight between naruto and pain, they think that being on model is quality, and the smeers of the action is lazy... That fight is freaking awesome, being cartoony is not a bad thing
Naruto vs Pain wasn't a drop of animation quality, it's often praised by animators because of how good it is. It's heavily stylized, sure, but it's not lower quality animation.
He's so fascinating. It sucks we didn't have time to talk about so many great examples, we had a list of like 30 fathers and I think we got to talk about 6 :(
One of my favourite personal ttrpg characters, embodies these archetypes pretty strongly, although I think she leans a bit towards the warrior and the king. I have actually described her as fatherly in the past, without being aware of these archetypes. She exists with a very gender neutral game world, so I don't think it matter in her instance, but it still got me thinking: how does gender nonconformity effect such strongly gendered archetypes? How does it shape their story/environment and what does it mean for the individual? I would love to hear you discuss this. I feel like it's connected to this role vs identity thing you mention in another video.
It’s an interesting topic about transferring your experience through genes, personally I never exposed to opium, but I exactly know them by the smell of them, also I can tell by the smell of food and fruit which one is good and which isn’t, and recently I found out not everyone can smell the iron from blood, it was sort of a given for me
I love this conversation... But in regards to Goku/Vegeta and their dadhood...well...the discussion kinda fails in my view. The reason why Goku gets critisized for his fatherhood, because he is compared to PICCOLO. You can't talk about Goku without mentioning Piccolo, your points are good, but you need to continue this conversation with Goku vs. Piccolo, who is the better dad and why? That would be compelling conversation
You guys left out probably the best father in all of media, yes even better than Thors, Ishigami Byakuya from Dr. Stone. He literally encapsulates just about everything you guys talk about here. If y’all haven’t watched Dr. Stone I would highly recommend it.
Whitebeard, kuma (thors does become a Great father) For mothers There is No Better then maquia (from where the promised flower blooms) Ironically aside from thors, all of them are adoptive parents
@@FrameOfMindBrosIt really spoke to me personally, as someone who has been able to work on themselves with little professional help. Therapy is a wonderful tool, but you still need to build that chair.
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Apologies for the Uncle Phil scene being cut out. We wanted to keep it in but RUclips wouldn't let us sadly 😟 That scene really touched us both personally, and if you wanted to view it for yourself, it's Season 4 Episode 24 of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air titled "Papa's Got a Brand New Excuse."
Also please let us know if you'd be interested in us setting up an alternative viewing site like a Patreon where we can show clips in full context without having to navigate around RUclips's system 🙏
Yes, to patreon. 😊
Just gotta say, i love the way you can explore therapy and psychology through fictional characters. The fictional characters and stories makes it much easier to understand. From the therapist; we get WHY characters take certain actions. From the filmmaker, we get HOW these actions are expressed. When put together, it can lead to good or bad storytelling. By comparing fictional characters and stories, we can see exactly why similar stories fail and others succeed through psychology and filmmaking. You guys can express the same opinions as the audience, but break down why we feel that way. It's suprising how much psychology the audience picks up on, we just don't have the expertise to express it correctly. Anyways, keep up the good work. I have no doubt you guys will be big in the future.
I need to take your comment and use it as the description for the channel! Super kind and insightful breakdown! 🤯 Totally agree, the audience is aware of so much of what's happening under the surface even if they can't articulate it. Curtis and I will keep doing our best to handle that part of the equation 😄 Thanks for believing in us 🙏
Frame of mind is my favorite podcast currently. Every time I listen, I just can't help but get emotional
Wow! Honestly that really means the world to me and Curtis! 🙏 You just made my day!
I just graduated with a bachelors in psych and will soon be doing a masters to become a therapist and this is the exact kind of podcast that I would love to make. I have listened to every episode so far and I am looking forward to many more!
Congratulations on graduating! Glad to have you along for the journey 🙏😊
As a recent father (2 y/o and 5 m/o), this episode is really important to me. Thank you!
Congrats on becoming a dad! And you’re very welcome ☺️ that’s what we make this for!
Where’d you guys go?! This channel’s helped me understand mental health and storytelling better and I find myself rewatching these podcasts and I would love to hear more from you guys.
We're back! Had to take some time off but we've got a new episode out and more on the way. Thanks so much for watching, its super encouraging to hear us having these conversations feels meaningful or helpful in any way!!
I cannot tell you how refreshing that shot of Naruto in the water is after experiencing countless examples of bewildering/misused dutch angles. Didn't appreciate it at the time I first watched that part in the show, but looking at it again years later, and even more so taking into account what you said about the great difficulty of trying to achieve such a thing outside of animation, it really nailed what the feelings and ideas it was going for (and more). You both made excellent points about its artistic and narrative functions.
Edit: Correct me if I'm inaccurate about it being a dutch angle or not. It seems like one to me, but also... something else, and if there's another term for it I don't know what it is. Regardless, I still think it does the whole portrayal of 'psychological uneasiness' / 'psychological tension' thing better than many attempts at dutch angles.
So glad you feel the same way about it! Yeah nothing feels worse than an out of place dutch angle 😂 Glad I could show you why I loved that shot so much and super glad it resonated with you 🙏
And you're correct 😄 it has other names like German angle or Oblique angle but Dutch angle / tilt is the most common variation other than just calling it "off axis"
Thanks for joining us on this journey!
As someone who had an estranged relationship with their father for many years, looking at anime and media and seeing what good fathers and father figures look like. Thank you for this episode and bringing all of my favorites together ❤
Glad it resonated with you! ❤️
I do believe this conversation NEEDS a PART 2 -
Showcasing specifically ASKELLAD and PICCOLO as father figures, or unlikely father figures who step in.
Oooooh, that would be super interesting to discuss 😮
@@FrameOfMindBrosyes! When you were talking about the question from the orphan girl, all my brain kept going back to was little Gohan and how Piccolo stepped in to take on the role (even if it wasn’t his original intent and started out initially selfish). Whether he meant to or not, Piccolo taught this young vulnerable child who just lost his father to violence, not just how to fight, but how to survive, how to be independent and take responsibility. Piccolo’s influence was so impactful that in the fight against the Saiyans just the threat of Piccolo’s disapproval/disappointment is enough for Gohan to overcome his own understandable fears in an overwhelming threatening situation to try and take action. And when his father is alive but his mentor is dead, Gohan decides to take action for the sake of his mentor even though he is fully within his rights to stay home safe with his now reunited biological family. Why? Because in his mind, Piccolo’s death is his responsibility and so Gohan needs to be the one to bring him back. Gohan decided on his own to travel to his mentor’s ancestral homeland in a quest to bring Piccolo back to life while his father was still recuperating in a hospital. That just speaks volumes to me.
@@Martiangrl86 This made me want to cry. I never thought of Gohan's choice in that way.
i love these long videos of you guys talking. i love hearing your thoughts on these topics and theyre very well worded. im excited for the next one
Wow! Thanks so much 🙏🏻 stoked you feel that way and can’t wait to show you the next one 🫡
Now I want a “Mothers” episode
Interesting idea, looks like it's time to research female archetypal psychology for me 🤓📚
@@FrameOfMindBros Hacks on max is a great show to use for this if you end up doing it I think!
@@FrameOfMindBros Hacks on Max would be great for this if you end up doing it. In terms of feminine archetypes and female relationships it’s so well done!
Found out about y’all two days ago and I love what y’all are doing 😤
Stoked you found us! Honestly that means the world to us, thank you 🙏🏻
Another great discussion from you guys!!!
There is a character in one piece that just recently had his backstory showed to us, it was kuma, i really would like to hear you guys analysing him, his story as a person and as a father since he is so interesting and have much more Layers than we expected.
Thanks so much! I have a very strong suspicion we’ll be talking about Kuma right around the time the Egghead arc in the anime reaches where the manga is now ❤️🐾😭
@@FrameOfMindBros oh that's great!! I'll be looking forward for that so
Y’all are my favorite podcast. Hope you post again soon!
😉 Well we've got some good news for you then 😄 Honored that you would call us your favorite! We're gonna work hard to make sure it stays that way 🙏
Lets gooo new Frame of Mind video!
Glad you're as excited as we are! 😄🙏
You guys deserve way more attention. This podcast is great, and it actually made me reflect on my own relationship with my father.
Seriously, great work guys.
Thank you so much! We deeply appreciate it ❤️. It's always encouraging to know at least a few people watching have the kind of experience you described, it's a much better measurement that we're on the right track than our subscriber count ever will be 😁🫡
This podcast is amazing. Keep doing them with love, and I'll keep watching ❤
Thank you so much! ❤️
An important thing to understand about Gohan is that he never wanted to fight. When he's introduced in episode 1 of the series he says he wants to go to school, study hard, and become a doctor. The reason Chichi keeps Goku from training Gohan to fight is because it would be a distraction from the life he wants for himself. She only cares about Gohan's grades as much as she does because Gohan wants to be a scholar. At the start of the Buu saga we find that Gohan has become rusty because, in the aftermath of the fight with Cell, he stopped training to try living a relatively normal life as a student.
Goku and Gohan are fundamentally different characters. Goku enjoys fighting and is constantly seeking to test his strength against the strongest opponents he can find. He wants to be pushed beyond his limits and find greater strength within himself, and he believes he has seen the same in Gohan who has on several occasions shown outbursts of incredible power that prove he has incredible potential. What he fails to realize, though, is that Gohan does not enjoy fighting, and these outbursts of power have only ever surfaced when he is desperate to save his friends or family from suffering. It could be said that Goku is selfish when it comes to fighting, while Gohan is entirely selfless.
Goku would have absolutely loved to fight a full-powered Cell and perhaps, from his perspective, he might have seen sending Gohan to fight and then tossing Cell a senzu bean to be a gift in some weird way. But to Gohan the scenario was a traumatically terrifying nightmare that he wanted no part of. Gohan doesn't have the drive to defeat Cell for his own sake in a one-on-one fight, especially while everyone he cares about is watching safely from the sidelines. Piccolo, who understands Gohan better than his own father does, comments at one point that Gohan is probably thinking something along the lines of, "Why are they just standing there and watching me suffer? Is a fair fight more important that my life?"
The only reason Gohan ever stood a chance was because Cell happened to share Goku's desire to fight opponents at their strongest, while also understanding what drives Gohan better than his own father does. Cell created minions to attack the other fighters on the sidelines for the sole purpose of triggering Gohan's need to protect others and push him to his full potential. Had he only been interested in defeating Gohan, rather than being tempted to see Gohan at the height of his power, he would easily have won.
As far as Gohan is concerned, Goku has only ever seemed to care about seeing him grow up to be a powerful fighter. Gohan has never been secretive about wanting to be a scholar and not wanting to fight, but Goku doesn't seem to care that much about what his son wants. Maybe, being a full-blooded saiyan, he's simply incapable of comprehending that Gohan would want to do anything other than becoming the strongest fighter he can be. At any rate, Goku fails to understand Gohan at a fundamental level the way several other characters are shown to understand him, and this flaw of Goku's character ultimately resulted in him putting his son in mortal danger with the fate of the world hanging over his head.
Your podcasts are amazing! I can't wait for the next one.
Thank you so much! The next one should be coming out soon 😊
Didn’t realize Up was about fatherhood until today…. Wonderful podcast
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it 😊
1:02:50 I usually see this as Goku being a bad father. This act usually would be objectively good, but as Piccolo later points out, Gohan doesn't have the temperament to take up his father's mantel. It's a vital piece of knowledge that Goku lacks because even when he is physically there, he is unaware of the internal world of his children.
Even more than his absence, it's his lack of curiosity about his son's that makes Goku a dubious father in my eyes.
Stumbled upon this channel. Love what you guys are doing, keep up the great work. 👍
Thank you so much!
Glad you found us 🙏😊
For the algorithm! 3/3 guys! Keep it going!
Thanks Tristian! 😊
Absolutely loved this conversation! Thank you for your perspectives 💜
Thank YOU for taking the journey with us 🙏🏻 Stoked you enjoyed it!
i have bin listening to lofi girl piano radio and it has made the videos so much more deeper. Just softly playing in the background.
Haha! That’s awesome! I love the fact that you’re live mixing to make it even more enjoyable 😂 you’re a true artist 🫡
Uncle Phil was the Shikaku to Will’s Shikamaru in that scene, just letting him know it’s ok to get emotional, to be sad and angry out loud. Just being there for your son is enough, ready to pick him up when he’s done.
This channel is FIRE! Great Work you two
Thanks so much! 🙏 You're the best! We'll be hard at work to keep the fire going 😄🔥
This channel deserves more subscribers
Thank you so much! 🙏
Well this is a channel im gonna binge now...
I first got to know about archetypes when i met my wife who was/is into creative writing.
When she found out, that i had bloodvtype 0 res negative she bursted out laughing.
"Its as if you were a character written by a bad writer to drive the point home, that you are a supporting character.
(...) you play support in games like dota, you are the middle child, you are not sure if you want kids of your own, you are the goalkeeper in your handball team and now you even have the bloodtype that can donate to every other bloodtype but who can only recive blood from a very select few."
Ngl. She had a point. :D
Glad you found us! Sounds like you’ve got a role you’ve carved out for yourself in life 😂 the only question is: do you want that archetype, or is there any part of you that feels unrepresented and wants to add to or change part of what is current? 🤔
@@FrameOfMindBros my wife tought me to take up a bit more space for myself, resulting in me doing my a-levels at the age of 28 and proceeding to start university for construction engineering.
Still very much a supporter but with goals of my own now.
As my grandfather used to say:"there are two type if relationships, those where the girl is in charge and those that don't work."
"A perfect world" with Kevin Costner, good father moments in a bad character.
Ooh, we will check it out 😁🙏🏻
36:37 💯💯💯 I completely agree.
Hot take.
The whole Pain encounter was executed really well.
The fight looks jank and poor, but where it counts the most is where the budget went. The fight might be the climax and the peak of emotion, normally. But in this fight, and in most fights in Naruto, the climax of the scene is when Naruto executes his Talk no-Jitsu and you get these wonderful scenes where you feel the empathy Naruto feels towards his enemy.
Naruto may be ninja Jesus, but just as Jesus's super power is empathy and shouldering the burden, so is Naruto's true power. The Talk no-Jitsu may be a meme, but it is really his most powerful ability.
Naruto brings Zabusa to the realm of the living and realizing his love for Haku, that then saves the Bridge village. Naruto shows Gara how to love where Gara hates, even when the two are just like the other. And this carry all the way trough the show, when his final challenge is empathizing with the Big Bad Evil Guy, Madara. And then finally the rematch at the waterfall with Zasuke where the two finally overcomes their differences and mend their divide that might have been broken forever.
Naruto might be the strongest Ninja to ever be, but that is not his strength. His true power is empathy.
This was a beautiful video to watch. I came for Thors because Vinland saga has some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. Looking forward to more content :)
Amazing! So glad you enjoyed it! More content releasing soon 🫡
The whole empty chair/ unfinished business, recreating. Reminded me the scene in Parasyte(the anime) where shinichi is able to regain his emotions after the parasyle lady put on the face of his mom. If ever you guys want to do an episode on that.
Ooh, that sounds incredible actually! That’s going on the list for sure! 🙏🏻📝
I think the slight creepiness of the naruto underwater, is that when someone is subjecting themselves to discomfort or pain, but not doing anything to relieve it; shows that there is something else psycologically going on to where one is not caring to relieve their discomfort. Kind of like they are numb or rebellious or might do something rash due to this,. You might think, "If they dont care about taking care of their own pain, then they might not care about my own either, threrfore I might be in danger.
I wonder if we will ever have a manga be adapted to its actual true length into anime. An anime that takes 1 chapter (1 chapter length 9 minutes) and then make the episode ~9minutes
I have to imagine the biggest hurdle to that would just be how expensive it would be to make. But it would be amazing to see a 1:1 adaptation, I'm thinking about something like Vagabond.
@@FrameOfMindBros it would be cheaper just not in the time constraints, they have to have the episodes a certain length for the program to be regularly scheduled sadly which makes some scenes janky
@@FrameOfMindBros one piece is a great example of elongated scenes
Vegeta is terrible but Goku was always a good dad, he chose to stay dead because he always attracted evil strong fighters which is true. He died 2 in the entire franchise & both times were when he was protecting his son. Even after he died against cell he was still supporting & encouraging his son from death.
People reaaaaally dont get the animated fight between naruto and pain, they think that being on model is quality, and the smeers of the action is lazy... That fight is freaking awesome, being cartoony is not a bad thing
Naruto vs Pain wasn't a drop of animation quality, it's often praised by animators because of how good it is. It's heavily stylized, sure, but it's not lower quality animation.
We would really like you checking out A Silent Voice and talking about it. i think it would fit
Definitely one we’ve got on the list for a potential review. Thanks for the suggestion!
It's crazy to think that askeladd wasn't even talked about.
He's so fascinating. It sucks we didn't have time to talk about so many great examples, we had a list of like 30 fathers and I think we got to talk about 6 :(
One of my favourite personal ttrpg characters, embodies these archetypes pretty strongly, although I think she leans a bit towards the warrior and the king. I have actually described her as fatherly in the past, without being aware of these archetypes. She exists with a very gender neutral game world, so I don't think it matter in her instance, but it still got me thinking: how does gender nonconformity effect such strongly gendered archetypes? How does it shape their story/environment and what does it mean for the individual? I would love to hear you discuss this. I feel like it's connected to this role vs identity thing you mention in another video.
Wake up babe, the new frame of mind video is out
Glad you’re as excited as we are 😂🙏🏻
Also I was hoping for Whitebeard here!
Ugh that's another amazing example! I wish it was viable for us to make a 10 hour long podcast to include everyone.
Love the your pods/vids guys, yall have unlimited upside(sent you email btw)
It’s an interesting topic about transferring your experience through genes, personally I never exposed to opium, but I exactly know them by the smell of them, also I can tell by the smell of food and fruit which one is good and which isn’t, and recently I found out not everyone can smell the iron from blood, it was sort of a given for me
goku spent a year alone with his son training and not once did he learn that Gohan didn't like fighting
I love this conversation...
But in regards to Goku/Vegeta and their dadhood...well...the discussion kinda fails in my view.
The reason why Goku gets critisized for his fatherhood, because he is compared to PICCOLO. You can't talk about Goku without mentioning Piccolo, your points are good, but you need to continue this conversation with Goku vs. Piccolo, who is the better dad and why?
That would be compelling conversation
Piccolo would have been great, but we’ve got so many dads and so little time 😩 maybe a future video will need to compare them!
can someone please let me know where I can find this song played at the end?
"Maybe It's The Birds" by Justin Prins
@@FrameOfMindBros thank you so much!
love these podcasts. ONE PIECE DONE. NARUTO done. please make one about BLEACH too
On it 🫡
You guys left out probably the best father in all of media, yes even better than Thors, Ishigami Byakuya from Dr. Stone. He literally encapsulates just about everything you guys talk about here. If y’all haven’t watched Dr. Stone I would highly recommend it.
Whitebeard and Iroh
Absolutely solid picks 👍
Dude, you must react and analyze Evangelion in filmmaking and psychological perspectives . Please!!!!
NGE would be SUPER interesting to break down, adding it to the list!
@@FrameOfMindBros will be waiting for it!
yeah, bring me that ARCANE and their charachters!
It’s on our list! Hoping to do it soon 😊
Whitebeard, kuma (thors does become a Great father)
For mothers
There is No Better then maquia (from where the promised flower blooms)
Ironically aside from thors, all of them are adoptive parents
goku literally died for his sons twice
True 😌
Dying is easy. Living, now that’s the hard choice
58:36-59:02
Stoked you feel the same way 🙏🏻
@@FrameOfMindBrosIt really spoke to me personally, as someone who has been able to work on themselves with little professional help. Therapy is a wonderful tool, but you still need to build that chair.
"promo sm"