Orthodox Jewish Women Rocking New York | DW News
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Women in New York’s ultraorthodox Jewish community live secluded lives. They tend to have a lot of children at a young age. We look at an orthodox female rock band fighting for more freedom.
“closer expectation reveals they are wearing wig” yeah no i can tell that’s a wig a mile away
regardless its a shixedress, real princesses wear bandana's.
@ssrevolver modesty
@chris
I thought the same thing.
@ssrevolver
They wear wigs because to their faith, the hair represents their inner beauty, that they only show to their husbands, and not others on their daily lives. So they wear them in public and take them off as they get back home. (Of course that they are still wearing them at home because they are being filmed).
Lol. Stevie wonder could see those are wigs
The stranger on the street had to put his 2 cents in but couldn't get into it? Like what's the point in even trying to ruin the girls day? Eh..
Seems to me that was the point. He was trying to shame her back into submission.
Yeah what a hoser eh.
Yeath he is the "hassidi police social behaevior" commander, poor girl, she is such a good person raising all of those kids all by herself, and absually doing a great job under the circuntancies. How come that busy body guy doesnt ask her about her day or who is she, just judgent the poor soul who is fighting on her own. Yeath it is very easy to rule the others. Anybody can do that.
U could see both were good natured. Both knew their views were right. And they will get on well when in heaven.
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Typical oye vey
I love how the critical man on the street, when asked to specify, says “I’m not going to get into that”. Coward.
Troll.
Yeah. Creepy old man trying to control her religious expression. Power to her for standing up for herself.
I would have said then why did you come over here in the first place?! Scat!
He didn't want to go into it because they knew darned well why they are not supposed to be doing that and the argument would have been used to generate publicity. Not saying that I agree with the mindset, but context is needed.
Yes he did you just didn't understand what he's saying he because of tznius that's modesty and that's wide general halachic rule if you know what I'm talking about so what he said that this issue would go under that category and it might be a problem and that's for a rabbi to decide and he won't go in to that if it is or not because he is not her rabbi but this for sure not every broken soul could decide on this just like law is decided by judges if it falls into a criminal category likewise is halachic rabbinical law is decided by rabbis and if you don't like it just say you quit you're ex you don't follow the rabbinical orthedox Judaism you follow your own feelings unless you asked a proper rabbi that is accepted in the community like you'd only ask a judge that has credibility it's very simple just people from the outside it's very easy to fool them they don't know anything so if they see something seemingly wrong in their eyes they already smearing the whole community
That guy says he doesn't want to get into while stopping her to tell her it shouldn't be allowed. Lol
jcherrera104 He’s a hypocrite.
He is just a busybody! Just noticed her skirt and thats why he said: tzniut- modesty.
Heaven help us
These women are handmaids- all men can tell them how to be, and they just have kids constantly. It's heartbreaking.
@@fozzybear8878 Come on. Not every person knows how to stand up for themselves, but enough of us do. Don't some women in your family WANT to have children?
@@Chanie787878 It's not the point. Women should choose- not men choosing for women.
Let me get this straight: it's considered wrong and immodest for your own hair to show, but wearing another womans hair is perfectly ok?
Talk about completely missing the point
You didn’t miss the point . It’s same
T J technically you could wear a cloth called a tischel
The purpose is not modesty in the sense you are thinking of. Uncovered natural hair is viewed as beneath the dignity of a married woman. Kind of like British and French nobility viewing wigs as a sign of status in the 17th and 18th centuries.
I never thought about it, you have a valid point!
and oxymoron hypocritica lol all very cultish
Every one has their own experience within their culture / religion / and community. These ladies aren't trying to leave their community , they just want to improve themselves within their communities as they see it.
Good For them
Sadistic cult .
What about the community?
@@johnnystoka6625 anti semitic
@@zacharypayne4080 oooooo
Anyone here after watching the unorthodox, Netflix ???
Prathamesh Dasari. I haven’t yet. But have heard it’s good.
Yea
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@@carmenwheatley7316 yeah I had tears to the song I didn't even understood the lyrics of!!! So😅😅
Don't have Netflix
I went to a concert of this group and it was amazing... Only women drinking water, singing and dancing. I think it is perfectly kosher.
Sounds perfectly boring ..
Annie Dayan Frum, even.
drinking water!! Are you serious?!
evil Duck go away evil
They disbanded awhile back
They need to go to a Black beauty supply store in Brooklyn and get a lace front wig. They'd save a lot of money plus it looks more natural.
Perfect. I love a good lace front
The wigs need to be kosher ( they aren't allowed to originate from Indian sacrifices etc.)
Orion Lord it's against the Torah
Dee Tompkins lol
@@rivkydiamant what do you mean?
It always comes down to controlling women, doesn't it, whatever the system calls itself...
it is not controlling, it is modesty.
@@paulcormier8641 modesty - whatever that means - imposed by one group over another, even if the imposed upon are induced to believe it is their own choice, is control.
@@ritawing1064 like government
@@paulcormier8641 yes, like government when the electorate thinks all it has to do for a just state is mark a box every four years.
@@paulcormier8641 Says a man.
What people here don't understand is that this is the ULTRA Orthodox community mostly Haredi. There are many Orthodox Jewish women who get higher education and work. I've gone to grad school and worked with them.
“A closer inspection shows that both girls are wearing wigs.”
Those wigs are horrible and can seen a mile away.
These ladies are beautiful, and talented and lovely. Really, the ridicule I see in some of the comments here is unnecessary....and is more of a reflection on those doing it, than it is on the ladies themselves.
Your first compliment is "beautiful". That's a reflection on you. And it's not good. Their wigs cost more than some people's cars.....but good for you for defending them.
Also, if you are concerned about antisemitism, talk to them about it. My ultra-orthodox cousins refused to even acknowledge my Bat Mitzvah because it wasn't at a "real" synagogue.
Go ahead my sisters! It is a great time to do this and I wish you all the best. As a woman from Brooklyn and having grown up very close to this community I hope others within the community and around the community will support you. Women all over the world are showing us all that we can do more than what is "traditionally" allowed. All the best.
Humble & modest does not mean reserved.
She says that being a makeup artist puts her at the edge of rules, etc. I'm not sure about that. I am Orthodox, but my reason for usually not using cosmetics is that I don't care about them. Many Orthodox women, very religious, use cosmetics happily and comfortably. Our religion does discuss modestly and appearance, but it focuses at least as much on inner development.
I can't go into much detail but the Old Testament mentions about not enlarging the eyes with paint and in vain. Makeup violates the modesty of appearance. There are videos on RUclips where women do before and after make-up and completely transform themselves. They are scary and it's deceptive like it's a form of witchcraft. It makes you understand why makeup should not be used and skin should not be tattooed.
Thank you. I liked the helping women out who had given birth. I was all alone when I gave birth, no nice words, no support, but I was thankful that the hospital gave out a knitted baby blanket and a little shirt with the hospital name. I kept them. I have donated baby blankets to the hospital ever since. Thanks for upload. Such nice women.
Women often don't get the support they need after delivery because all the other are off taking care of their own children too. It's a shame connecting is not more of a priority. It needs to be. I'm so sorry you felt alone. But God was with you and your sweet baby🤗
I'm sorry to hear you went through that. Definitely there must be more support after the delivery for women. Something needs to be organized. Spread the word!
I think it's fantastic that, whilst these ladies are keeping their faith in a way that seems authentic to them, they are also using their God given gifts to forge new paths. Much love and luck to them! Xx
Wow, the comments on this video are savage! People insulting these women's religion, the way the interpret and practice modesty, the quality of their wigs. While Judaism and its practices might seem foreign and "odd" to you, please remember that the women in this video were raised in a community where they were viewed as normal. Also, while some aspects and sects of Orthodox Judaism are extreme (ie. extremism), every religion has extremists. The comment section of this video is not the place to judge these women or the way they practice and observe their religion. There are many different sects within Judaism, one of which is Orthodox Judaism. And there are many sects within Orthodoxy as well, some of which are more extreme and "cultish" than others. But without knowing the details of how these women observe Judaism and the rules that they choose or are forced to follow, we should not assign these horrible, discriminatory labels on them in particular, and/or Judaism as a whole.
Describing any Jewish women as quiet and submissive is hilarious to me. Haredim or no -- Jewish women are not doormats.
Right. So they can decide they are going to tell their husbands THEY have to work for a change, and do all of the housecleaning and cooking for a change, right? nope.
@@briangeary5738 Uh... actually Yes.
@@dovbarleib3256 LOL. Right. That's why so many Orthodox women are abused.
Brian Geary that’s so rubbish hun. The abusive relationship rates in the non Jewish world are actually so much higher than the Jewish rates. Go study a bit more before you come here with baseless claims which turn out to be wrong.
@Ben Hurn Lies. Anti-gentile hatred and lies. Typical. Our women smile; yours are always depressed and somber. Even your children never smile. pathetic lifestyle.
They cut their own beautiful hair to wear a fake real wig that costs thousands of dollars !!! Crazy
they dont usually cut their hair
Hasidic women have to bald their heads after marriage
@@masumachowdhury I don't understand why they have to shave their on hair.
@@masumachowdhury some groups of hassidic not all
Agree!
Wigs to cover hair is the silliest loophole I have ever heard.
Rules of men
@jeff yes, if I cover hair I would use cloth rather than wig
Please don't criticize things you don't know about!!
@jeff Yes. Why not. You make it sound as if hijab is the worst thing ever, how silly.
i dunno i heard some people leave the light switch on prior to Shabbat😲
Not allowed to stand on stage or sing if men could possibly hear you? I feel sorry for them.
Is all about protection and from the one true God ALLAH. not to speak public, dress modesty etc since women are precious and no 1 of all the gender. Gives birth children, educate the children and taking care. I love my Mom, Sisters and all women irrespective of the differences. I request you to do research and learn at least the three main religion and pray to God to guide you to the one true faith.
I just see oppression. Sorry...
@@abdikadirali7599 I don't believe in god.
It's their choice to remain in that particular movement.
@@abdikadirali7599 And why should women not speak publically?
Getting married at 19 or the latest 20 and have 5-6 children? So education is out. Well, isn't that convenient for the patriarchy.
I don't think people realize how important the patriarchy is for maintaince, and responsibility. When no one is responsible, people become neglected. Neglected people neglect other people. They always have to try to find a way to take care of themselves. They barely have time to help anyone else.
well when i see more and more women going into social and gender studies and living from the husbands money, then i dont see any "wasted" potential
I have a friend who is married at 19, is orthodox, and is going to med school. If a woman wants, she can always get an education.
@@MaceyRosalie That's AWESOME. I think most women who get married at 19 and start having 5 and 6 children, probably don't.
Vera R going to a secular school is forbidden.... I doubt your story
This proofs how much stronger women are than men. Without these women their pale men would be nothing!
The music they were recording was awesome
more of a jazz vibe than rock. talented though. 👍👏👏👏
This women are beautiful. Really interesting, to know about other culture.
As are you
You are beautiful as well.
Mia Light my culture
I love the Bulletproof Stockings!! Their songs are amazing and they deserve all the positive attention they are getting.
I don't mean to be picky or apologist in the comments section, however I do want to point out that at some points I find this documentary portrays a slightly one dimensional view of ultra-orthodox Judaism, in that some facts carefully left out of the mix to create a blanket stereotype for ultra-orthodox Jewish communities. For example: at about 5.30 the narrator states correctly that women do not sing in front of men. However, she then erroneously asserts that women aren't traditionally allowed onstage or to sing in a public setting at all.
Also, while it is true that many women in certain ultra-orthodox communities marry at nineteen and do not pursue higher education, this is also not a blanket rule by any means. There is a huge number of women who marry between 19-30 and pursue a higher education while single or married.
6:30 onwards is pretty great tho- rock on!
Just curious. How is covering your hair with hair covering your hair??? I'm confused why you wear a wig (as hair) and not cover with a head covering.
bcs they lie to themselves and because they seek out those rabbis who give them permission to do things that have nothing to do with being a orthodox women!
Dori Creed from the research I’ve done on the subject as long as the hair is covered it doesn’t matter what covers it
@@robertshaw6138 its absolute rubbish.
M.K. Why are someone else’s religious beliefs rubbish?
Paramorefan 21
Ordinary women wears wigs to be more attractive so what
Ok wow. Kudos to that single mother .. she is awesome !!
Madeleine Ramsey She is amazing!
Important to note that it's not just the women who aren't supposed to draw attention to themselves in public; men are also supposed to be humble and not draw attention to themselves. BTW, if the community is so closed, where did the women hear rock music? It's important to interrogate the stereotypes. (I'm a woman, btw, but not part of that community.)
I came upon this video by accident and realized the cellist is one of my internet friends from years ago.
Rachel Moon Your very pretty 😊
With so many kids how can they afford rent in NYC and the wives not working?
Credit card fraud. I'm 100% serious btw ask my father
@M Ch somebody chisels out $$$
Public Assistance
In Israel it's the opposite way around. Orthodox woman works more than orthodox man. The orthodox woman are the main provider for the family.
Mostly, Orthodox man studying Torah all day and working once in a while.
Also, there is a misunderstanding about the singing, Orthodox woman allowed to sing, but only to audiences of woman.
If they don't like to live like that, there are other more liberal groups in the Judaism.
And about the education. They don't marry at young age so they won't get academic education. It's not true, at least in Israel. There are orthodox woman that study in the university.
I'm not orthodox Jewish but there is a lot mistakes in this video.
Actually, it is the orthodox MEN who are not permitted to listen to women singing.
@@briangeary5738 You see all Chareidi men who learn all day slip into alleys in search of prostitutes? Are you a world renowned spy? Do you really know if those percentages of men who do so approach 100%, 50%, 10%, or maybe 1%which of course is still too high? Are you Maxwell Smart?
Adi Wish what good is he then??? Sounds like a whiney mamas boy to me...dont even work??? Yet the women have all these rules and expensive horrible (cheap af) looking wigs theyre forced into buying.
@@rayveninwonderland5152 He did not say it's a good thing, haha.
I personally agree with you. Man is potentially a better provider by nature as men are less agreeable which is great for business, more systematic& pragmatic than feminine nature.
They're 21-21.50% of israel, like the arab/palestinians citizens (20.9%)
I know a woman, raised Hasidic but married a non-Hareidi Orthodox rabbi, who earned a PhD in a STEM field and teaches at a women's college. I agree about the inaccuracies in this video.
Somebody introduce them to the world of lace fronts please!
They don't wear those type of hair pieces for a reason. It doesn't fit their needs.
Ikkkkkkkkkkk
Lace fronts are a lot more popular now. Sometimes women wear the obvious wigs to signify that they are married. Sometimes it’s hard to tell with the lace fronts and certain rabbis don’t like that. The more obvious ones are middle ground.
You're in a different universe. That's not the purpose of the wig.
Seeing women oppressed by extremism makes me sad every time I see it. This is ad.
They're free to join a different movement that isn't so oppressive.
Respect the freedom! They chose to live like that
@@sleekoduck they are trapped! would you say the same to woman in the cycle of abuse who hasn't found the courage to leave. Often woman that leave these communities are bullied and robbed of everything including children. These communities go to great length to take children from mothers that leave and leave these woman with nothing, they don't even have an education to be able to function in the real world!!!!! They are oppressed!
It's not just the women who seem oppressed. It's the men also. They are all indoctrinated to have no understanding of the modern world. It seems like they've all got obsessive compulsive disorder.
They are not opressed
I love how she's like "It's feminism, but not the annoying kind"
I feel like even if this is true to some orthodox/jewish girls, it depicts us in a very strict way and our religion in an unaccepting way. Something I’ve found amazing about Judaism is I’ve found many of the people i know super accepting and non-judgemental. I like the video learning more about orthodox/more religious forms of Judaism but I wish it would have been stressed more that this is a SUPER strict form of Judaism. I know they said orthodox but I just kinda wish they would have used different wording like, “strict” as well
Shanie Beauty, thank you for your thoughts. That is a legitimate hint. /ml
Pearl & Dahlia are beautiful. The guy that reprimanded her in public really pissed me off 😡. He really should mind his own business and what an unloving and humiliating way to reprimand her.
very interesting from an outsider.
somewereinwisconsin hi I am a Hasidic Jew in the live in Brooklyn and I see you interested in our Hasidic community so if you want to know more information about our community and like synagogues and weddings and other things you could go to my RUclips channel it's called The Hasidic life by nety n thank you
I learned something new as well thank you for the video.
Most of these things are very untrue....
Ariana Casey like what??
They tried to send my wig to rehab, but I said, "No, no, no!"
Lol
She is so beautiful and fresh !!!! 😍 Very strong women !!! I'm not jew but she makes me like so much her culture !! Greetings from France ❤️
Hi how are you
The Hareidim are a reaction to radical change that endangered the Jewish people. They adopt changes slowly because we have seen that change can be dangerous. This means that Hareidim do change, but they do so slowly and carefully. Also, Hareidim are not homogeneous. In some communities women are the breadwinners and men are scholars. In other communities men might work while women are homemakers. Or both might work.
It's nice to have an article like this, but it's a bit one-demensional.
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That’s dumb. A men should be by his wife side at all time. Men should comfort his wife during rough time.
Mr Dude I agree, but I also think that women should comfort men too, men matter aswell.
jewish ppl dnt care about female
I'm not Jewish , In fact I'm Atheist but in the Torah and Jewish law, Women are above men. But not without some Patriarchal influences of course.
@@brownasiankid1782 not at all ur wrong. Stop projecting ur own life on jews
Thanks be to Allah, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) came and told men not to do that. He used to still cuddle, be kind and be there for his wife when she is menstruating.
Who is the make up artist in this video (doing the shabbos makeup)? Can you (makeup artist) send me a word. I'm Jewish Orthodox as well. Lehitraot!
Hannah B.E. рирррьрлпплглжп
I don’t understand why you are covering your hair with a wig whats the point??
George The issue for a married Jewish woman is to cover her hair. A married woman receives her aura which should only intimately be shared with her husband when she gets married. This is why a single woman need not cover her hair.
Yet you are correct surprisingly on two fronts. 1. According to Jewish mysticsm, human hair wigs actually reduce the aura that a married woman has.
2. Human hair that is donated by Hindu women in India is often donated by those women as their hair is being cut as an offering to their gods. It is forbidden by Jews to benefit from such hair dedicated to "other gods". This is very problematic today because most human hair wig manufacturers use hair from India. SoJews from the Sefaradic tradition do not use wigs to cover their hair because of a ruling by the deceased sage of the generation, Ovadia Yosef zt"l
It's as silly as wearing a hijab. No; sillier, b/c you are faking hair.
@@briangeary5738 Single Jewish women do not have to cover their hair. This is NOT an issue of wearing a modest article of clothing as it is in Islam. If it were simply an issue of modesty, then all women, single and married adult women, would be required to cover their hair. Yet, this law does not apply to single women. In Islam ALL adult women must cover their hair, and neck with a hijab. So for Islam it is an issue of women needing to cover up in order not to cause men to have temptations. This is not the case here with Orthodox Jewish women covering their hair. Otherwise you would have to explain why single women can let their hair flow wildly in public. care to explain? You think you are an expert.
@@briangeary5738 I am sure you do many things are are silly to folks who are outside of your own culture box. Yes?
Dov barlieb please dont talk of that which you have no knowledge. the hijab is not worn, to not excite men. It worn as a symbol of modesty that were all equal, and it dosent matter how pretty you are on the outside, but its the inside that matters. Men are required to dress modestly as well.
"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do. - 24:30". So clearly hijab is not worn to not excite men. So please i understand its tempting to say what you think, but please dont write an unnecessary comment, if you dont know anything about the topic. Peace be upon you, may you have a nice day.
wow!! mothers, rebbetzins,
and musicians all in one!!
big up sistaz
who be keepin it real in NY
I couldn't even finish this because it paints orthodox women as creatures on national geographic. This video makes it seem like child rearing is a horror and the most important thing in life is working and higher education. Again, another example of how our society views women as oppressed if they choose to live their lives unlike men. I bet if men raised children we would honor it. I know plenty of orthodox women who are happy and honored. Their husbands treat them like queens of their homes.
Jewish feminist, with the funding of the Jewish Rothschild family, promoted anti-family and pro-work to women so to destroy the the white western family.
I watched the whole thing. You are so right about orthodox men treating their wives like queens. I learned in a class that the Torah puts women on a pedestal. Soooo true! My non-Jewish ob-gyn picked up on these nuances years ago, and once told me how much she admired the way the Torah treats women.
I have been a engineer with master degree in electrical engineer for many years but from my studies of torah as well as science I will say that working and a higher education is part of society's support for family and raising children. What else would be the ultimate purpose of society along with happiness and fulfillment? We forget as a successful society and get our priories wrong. See Ofrah Winfrey's video on American life where she covers Orthodox Jewish familes in Brooklyn and see the warmth, happiness and inner peace, much more positive.
What the horror about it is when you are given no other choices but marriage and children.
Thank you so much for writing this! I couldn't agree more with everything you said!
I don't see nothing wrong with it she is creating actually a nice music any music help people to relax to unwind to be more happy. This is only for ladies and even if that was for the guys too I don't have any problems with that at all as long as they both enjoy
Love this. Go bulletproof stockings! What a strong Community, although I personally could live without men shaming me on the street for my choices😬
yeh you are right
yeah - communities are v different all over orthodox Jewry as well - I live in a different part of Brooklyn and if a man publically shamed a woman for her level of modesty (or immodesty in his eyes) he would not be looked at with approval.
Even here, it was quite awkward and unexpected to me
Not "men". Just one individual.
Dont say something is against halakah if you're unwilling to explain why.
Eliyahu M meh. He was a walking contradiction; complaining about her breaking rules while making eye contact with and talking to a woman who wasn't his wife or blood relative.
@@michaelserebreny454 . Looking into the eyes of someone you're speaking to shouldn't be considered as a sin and isn't a sin, I believe, because it helps to know the person before you well.
Consciousness & Commonsensicalness who said anything about sin? He was breaking a custom while complain about a custom being broken. I don't happen to care either; I'm just making an observation.
@@michaelserebreny454 My point was that customs were/are supposed to keep one from sinning.
Great documentary! Helping me with research for the new novel I'm writing. Thank you!
+Clinton Rusthoven please talk to actual hasidim! This had a lot of inaccuracies, if you'd like I can introduce you to a community of open minded and artistic hasidic jews. Going to reddit.com/r/judaism and asking questions could be very helpful as there is a strong hasidic base there too. I hope your research goes well for your book!
+Clinton all the best with your novel but as someone who knows these groups in New York and all over Israel (I lived there for many years and was/am religious but not charadi) this was a terrible representation of the community they were trying to portray. Also they mashed up different communities into one, each group of charadim or even orthodox Jews are very different from each other and live very differently. Like the other poster said PLEASE PLEASE talk to people from the actual community you want to write about, It's important to know which community that is though. The main Jewish woman in this was lovely but not a true representative of the charadi community. She may have grown up in it but now (in her external appearance and mannerisms) she's more modern orthodox (nothing bad about that at all, it's just that she's a very atypical charadi woman and sadly because of that a lot of the community will not accept her as charadi). Also there were SO many inaccuracies in this clip (even the jewish woman and men didn't properly explain things uggg). All the best with your project!
I'm part of the chassidic sect that these women are from, and some of the details in this vid have been exaggerated and are inaccurate. Best to speak to someone for a more accurate portrayal. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have :)
+Avivamae this woman would not be considered modern orthodox in Chabad. She follows Halacha and keeps her knees covered. She asks orthodox Chabad rabbis for advice on matters of tznius.
Now hold on just one second... Did she just say, "Jack off cornblue" Oh man... If that kid was in public school... Wow....
This is NOT what Orthodox Judaism is about. This video does not state the reasons behind the laws. The laws are something we choose to keep and have the free will to not keep. Judaism teaches men to have high respect for the woman. Women are ENCOURAGED to get higher education and follow their dreams. This video paints this society so inaccurately that it's offending.
Jennifer Perez Have the free will to keep exactly! You are correct. However what happens to your free will when a child or teenager is bullied and coerced even at the threat of shunning to submit to those 'free will' traditions?
Hey! Thanks! I know this because I made friends with a few Jews years ago and they were all observant and kind. Looked like babies too at 17.
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Jennifer Perez I agree. But in new York it is a lot harder for them.
Jennifer Perez Then why can't orthodox Jewish women become rabbi's? If they're so respected by men, then why can't say have a leadership role over a man.
It's hard to see the modesty behind these lush wigs, makeup and jewelry
The Wigs are to hide the real hair.
That is for their husband and Children.
Jewelry and such are for how well the husband supports the family.
But then, you have those who just do the mitpachat(a head shall, don't know the English word)
Depends on the community.
Modesty does not equate ugliness.
It's modesty defined as privacy, not as de-sexualization.
They are not Buddhist. Modesty is not the same as self denial.
Wingfield 🤣🤣🤣
orthodox girls are the best, no drama, no games, you can tell them they look good and they love it and dont think you're a creep or stalker, and the way they raise children is amazing
i wana be with one so much!
Are they allowed to shave other parts other than their heads?
@@lulolancy yes
@@mazrox1291 That's nice to know. But I also do like hairy. When I used to be a bus driver within the Satmar community, there were a good number of women that were into me. But there was one that I really liked. Every time I saw her I would think, God I hope she's hairy. My experience there let me know that many Hasidic women like when you acknowledge them. It's like they suffer from lack of attention. Mrs. Krammer has it going on.
These women deserve to do what makes them happy,Just like the others.Not suppose to hear them sing because I'm a man.welp ,I can hear them sing as I type and I love it.their not hurting anyone
To gentleman that stop the young lady in other communities here in Brooklyn we would tell him to mind his business (with an attitude) 😂
Like many secular American Jews, I enjoy the fun cultural stuff, but the religious part is just kind of a drag. The oppressiveness of these Orthodox types is palpable, and depressing.
I'm proud to call myself an African American Jew, we blacks where not always originally accepted by most Jews on account of our non-Jewish ancestry but this barrier can be broken and it has in the case of my son נְתַנְאֵל (Netan'el), who's mother was a full blooded Jew from Israel. The Jewish Race must be expanded and there is no better way to expand such a race other than through the assimilation of other races, we are all descendants of Abraham together we can break the anti-racial policies of the orthodox, these policies must and will be broken without this Judaism and the Jewish race will not survive.
Jews do accept coverts.
Amen to that brother
I do'nt think this is the best way...our culture and tradition is protecting us the whole nation from destruction....that my own feeling..
Why everyone always tries to undermine religion. If some girls are deciding to go their own path it's ok but why the documentary maker is demonising the Jewish religion.
Shame on all of us as we everyday gang up against religion without realising how important faith can be in a persons life.
What they do has nothing to do with religion.
I wonder how the lady with the 4 boys husband died?
its about time our orthodox girls stand up for themselves.
all the best from a jewish musician fellow ;)
Goldie Knox a
Goldie Knox...wonderful voice...including the curled upper lip. L.O.L.
I'm sorry but untill you tell your entire religion to go screw itself you are not at all standing up for yourself
@@OmegaJuggalo Religion is a tail
@@wildtiger3452 *tale
I would love to have the opportunity to see this women performance. If someone know about their show schedules it will be great.
I am sooo happy & excited for these women. I see them as my sisters. I hope to become an Orthodox Jew when I love back to the states. I am glad that women are still keeping Torah and thinking outside the box. Amen!
Jacqueline Filo Yes. Eventually, I want to convert formally to orthodox Judaism.
+Gladys Rodríguez Pitre LMAOOOO
wow those women are gorgeous ! ! !
Absolutely not,
God bless you people .
All walks of life in New York City .
They make love in the darkness and don’t touch each other.
I liked that song the beat. I'm going to keep tabs on them
They're not allowed to perform or sing in front of men, yet how many men are going to see this video? That aspect doesn't make sense to me.
GOOD FOR YOU.I'm kind of confused though. Are'nt muslims like this too.
No. Muc much harsher over there. Polygamy, for example.
***** Actually make up is frowned upon by most Rabbis. And women are not required to please their husbands. It's the other way around. Couple can't divorce because the woman doesn't satisfy her man but they can defiitely divorce if the man doesn't satisfy his woman.
Reproducing & preserving family & religious values; caring for and defending their communities. Something Americans & Europeans should be doing more of. So much better than liberalism.
Orthodox muslims maybe. It also depends where you're from. Your country's culture does influence your religious practices.
No Muslims are NOT like this. Muslim women under hijaab are not supposed to wear makeup. Being natural (not using makeup), covering body with loose clothes and hiding their hair comes under Muslim hijaab. Jewish women cover their hair with another piece of human hair wig which... makes no sense according to Islamic teachings. Plus, marrying more than once or polygamy in marriage is 'permitted' but not 'obligated' ONLY if the person can do justice between the wives he has! Otherwise, it is NOT permitted if the man can't do justice between his wives be it financially, physically or emotionally.
6:57 Awwweee he's so cute
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Why is this called "not quite kosher"?? It's 100% kosher! Also, it's super fetishizing and patronizing.
This made me sick. It is not the way I know it to be. Why do people do this to us?
That’s so awesome about making food for new mothers!!
Couldn't stand the stranger who confronted Perl. That's just not cool. And he couldn't even back it up. That speaks a lot about his character.
Women covering their hair with fake hair makes no sense. Why not wear a head scarf instead? I have seen some Jewish women wear a scarf and cover their whole head of hair and it looks good as well as being modest.
They do! They wear scarfs and headpieces
I will be brutally frank: I LOVE ❤️ JEWISH WOMEN. I love women that have culture. It is a shame that I was not born as Jewish. My type of woman I prefer is Orit Gadiesh.
1. Ritual impurities come from contact with death, and the most severe of these is contact with a human corpse. Every woman's egge or man's sperm has a potential for life and when that potential is wasted the man or woman becomes ritually impure and must immerse themselves in a ritual bath. People focus on the women's side with their periods, but men have similar thing whenever they, for example, have a wet dream.
2. Both men and women are required to cover themselves, but the specifics are different. However if you take close look you'll notice that even though the requirements on men are slightly less strict they tend to dress very modestly, and that even includes those who are not religious, so the requirements. Women on the other hand keep seeking to wear shorter and tighter clothing. Men are not bothered by the requirements and tend to dress far more modestly than women, who are bothered by them.
3. It appears that some Jews were influenced by foreign chauvinistic attitudes and assume the halacha (Jewish law) matches those views.
4. It is prohibited for men to hear women sing, and since it is probited to cause others to sin women must therefor avoid singing in front of men, although they may sing together with men.
5. Among the Hareidim women are often the breadwinners, and the level of secular education for men and women is probably about equal. However, among adults men tend to continue their religious study, while wome focus more on raising the children. Both activities are considered to be of top priority.
6. Both men and women are prohibited from cross-dressing. During Biblical times both wore dresses, but there were male dresses and female dresses. Now both wear pants, with men wearing men's pants and women wearing women's pants. This leads me personally to conclude that nowadays there is no prohibition on women wearing women's pants, as long as they are sufficiently long and loose. There are Orthodox women who do wear such pants, although they are not Hareidi. In my estimation the reason why pants are still considered prohibited is because of a resistence to change, because change is disruptive and dangerous. I just wish sometimes that with all the necessary caution and adjustment periods it was still possible to move faster, and that there were no idiots who opposed things for invalid or nonsensical reasons.
It is not impure to menstruate. It's not a wasted life. It's not a waste. Women cannot use every single egg in their body. Women cannot have thousands of children. Every egg should not be mourned. Just as every sperm should not be mourned when a man has a wet dream or masturbates to porn or prostitutes, like unfortunately many religious men are doing more and more.
+Lovequeen That's your personal opinion.
When the potential for life goes unfulfilled that creates a minor ritual impurity since life is good and death, or in this case more like a hint of death, is bad. That's it. What you think about it doesn't change this fact.
+Yeshayahu ben Pineḥas Cohen and the practical side effect is that a period of separation and cleansing actually helps marriages and relationships and makes couples miss each other and stay close and happy to be together. You can't just impose your thinking on a custom that is thousands of years old without context. Also Catholics don't use contraception for the same principle, the potential of life, a great gift which should be accepted when given and mourned when gone.
For clarity, impure is not a great translation. Someone who is tamai is not suitable at this time to participate in ritual service. There is no negative connotation as one can be in this state after the performance of a highly valued mitzvot, such as preparing a body for burial. It is expected and accepted that people fluctuate in and out of this stage it is neither good nor bad- it just is. It has nothing to do with being physically unclean, as demonstrated by the process to be fit for ritual purpose. When attending the mikveh first one washes thoroughly with soap and shampoo, nail poish is removed, the areas in and around nails are cleaned, lint from belly button removed, jewlery removed, you blow your nose, clean around your ears. You are completely squeaky clean, but not yet suitable for ritual purpose. A guide of the same sex accompanies you to the bath while you are wrapped in a towel, briefly inspects that you have reached any area on your back that you might have missed, looks for stray hair and checks to see that you fully immerse, and assists you in saying the blessings if necessary. So, it is only after you immerse fully in mayim chai'im, living waters, either from a river or collected rainwater you return to the state of being appropriate for ritual service. It is a spiritual transformation that requires being phys
ically clean before participation.
the rule with the woman having her period and not being allowed to touch her husband or have intercourse is insane! Of course the woman is considered impure and that's BS!
It is really designed to get women pregnant. The waiting period after menstruation is the peak time for women to get pregnant and the guys basically have to wait two weeks till they can get sex.
It's because when a woman gets pregnant while on period her baby dies after a few days of being born, so that's both wasting semen and a murder, as it's a well known fact that women shouldn't get pregnant while they're on period.
So recently i met an Orthodox Jewish lady, and i told her to sing for me. Then she mentioned Tzniut... Right i said. -____- ' ....Convert issues.
Aw. lol
The wig replaces a head scarf. The Orthodox Jewish woman is not supposed to draw attention to her sexuality but some of the wigs are super sexy and alluring. It's like fooling God if you take religion seriously.
They are a very sweet community
At min. 4 I find this very interesting how th guy backs out as soon as he is requested for specific feedback.
What brand of lipstick lasts a full day or two?
waterproof lipstick works, just like waterproof mascara
Miriam Fetterman right? I had the same question. Must be a kosher one. I’m totally willing to buy one
Bernie Mat matte liquid lipstick fenty
She’s a great singer and they are great musicians.
You go girls!Baby steps🎼
are you orthodox jewish woman?
If anyone can educate me on this, Id really appreciate it. How do the men in these communities support their families if presumably most of their time is spent studying the Torah and they rarely step outside their communities...what type of jobs do they hold??
as a jewish women we need a voice
Crystal Morriss what kind of voice. About what? I would like know.
Where you guys live i wanna make new jewish friends ....
Of course not only u need a voice but Jewish woman are the voice. Ill bring MASHIAH with ur joy. But it needs to fit the TSNIUT. Jewish ladies are the queens may H protect them
Toby Henderson thanks for your answer. But I would like to hear her answer. I think she can write.
three out of the four girls in my family are lawyers its called reform or conservative judaism. we have a voice . we aren't just baby machines stuck in the 1800s.
Sorry, I just don't get it. Why women put up the crazy rules, be expected to produce child after child after child, have some guy get on you on the street for allowing a camera to follow you. Plus, you have to get "permission" for everything... Nope don't get it.
Every time I see wigs like this it reminds me of when my mom had cancer, so it makes me feel sad. They look really artificial even though it’s real human hair. ugh I don’t like it, that’s just me, I think lace front looks more natural. Also this is like if god outlawed bikinis and then all the women of this religion wore those oversized white t shirts with an airbrushed bikini lady on it.. like sure it’s modesty but ..what is the freaking point?! But I respect their choice.
I’m sending you a virtual hug ❤️💖
i like how the commentator says Shabbat
Same
That keyboardist sounds like Amy Winehouse! I bet if Amy'd grown up religious she'd be alive today!
I like the modest dress code, but I love assertive women. I'd feel awful if I didn't support something as innocuous and joyful as singing and playing music. These women are adorable though and seem a lot happier than most "liberated" Western women these days.
Pearl has the most incredible neshama that it's actually melting into my mouth!
I don't know why the westerners complaining about Taliban in Afghanistan?
Too many babies too close together. This is NOT good for the mother's health.
i sooo agree with this. your body has no time to recover from shock.
please cite one scientific study to support this idea.there is no evidence of a health crisis among these women who have many babies one after the other. this is your personal opinion, and cant possibly be applied to anyone but yourself.
very sweet thanks for posting