In the Games Industry - An interview with ex-Mod Reach!
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
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I talk to Dan, formely known as Mod Reach about his early life, time at Jagex, departure and so much more! -- Watch live at / shaunyowns
0:00 - Intro
2:10 - Before Jagex and Playing RS
6:18 - Applying to Jagex & Interview
13:28 - Moving to Cambridge
15:53 - Night Shift Player Support
20:04 - Bug Investigation Lead
24:20 - Joining QA
26:56 - Experience in QA
29:52 - Bug Stories
31:40 - Money Pouch Dupe - Intro
33:44 - Bug Abuse Community
35:10 - Money Pouch Dupe - Discovering it
42:20 - Money Pouch Dupe - Escalating it
44:47 - Rented Worlds/Test Servers
46:55 - Mod Jacmob
48:23 - Money Pouch Dupe - Economy
51:37 - Money Pouch Dupe - Banning Accounts
56:04 - Money Pouch Dupe - Reward
58:55 - Review to how Jagex does QA
1:02:00 - OSRS - Discovery
1:05:49 - OSRS - Working to Release
1:12:15 - OSRS - Locking Out Content
1:15:18 - Mod Ash
1:19:47 - OSRS - Early Days
1:22:37 - OSRS - Planning the Future
1:24:50 - OSRS - Community Interaction
1:29:57 - RS3 vs OSRS & Twitter
1:37:00 - Becoming a Content Dev
1:39:12 - Jagex Frustration
1:44:52 - Rooftop Agility Courses
1:49:24 - Test World Ideas
1:52:57 - Art/Animation Assets
1:55:45 - Zeah Idea
2:03:34 - Lessons Learned from RS3
2:06:46 - Mod Kieren
2:09:17 - Zeah Analysis
2:14:25 - Names in Zeah & Accidents
2:20:22 - Mod John C & Jagex Now
2:24:31 - Mod Ghost
2:27:59 - Dragon Full Helm Dupe
2:32:20 - Mod Chrisso & Bug Abuse Community
2:36:22 - Jagex Departure - Conspiracies
2:39:45 - Jagex Departure - Frustrations
2:43:59 - Jagex Departure - Relationships
2:51:27 - Unfairness within Jagex
2:59:00 - Self Focus & Mental State
3:03:51 - Social Media & Toxicity
3:11:57 - Giving Valid Criticism
3:13:57 - Waiting to Speak Out
3:16:35 - Future of OSRS & Polling System
3:22:20 - Esports
3:26:42 - MTX in OSRS
3:28:34 - Q&A Segment
3:32:22 - Dungeoneering
3:34:43 - Words of Wisdom & Jagex Relations
3:37:53 - Outro
Holy shit you madman. Guarantee this guy enjoyed getting 99 rc.
Youre awesome!
@@infintiyward Or maybe it's because this is his own video? Why would you not try on an upload?
@@alexandermartinez1318 it's not his own video though
@@alexandermartinez1318 Put down the bongpipe, dude.
Good job Shauny! Get Ronan on, he seems to be in the Twitch chat for them, he needs his turn in the hot seat
@@clint8-inches-softstevens389 that little shit
This made me look at Dan in a way different light, I really do wish him all the best in the future. Great interview and insight for some of the behind-the-scenes stuff!
Miss chillin in your CC, Reach. Great times were had! Glad you are doing well in life - I've missed you these last years.
Dont know if dan will see this but hats off to you dude seems like you really put in your all at jagex and i fully respect youre privacy and not wanting to divulge the details. Hope youre doing well in life dude and continue to do so
This is hands down the best RuneScape behind the scenes content I have ever heard. Keep em up :)
If only the keyboard wasn't being audibly tapped away on throughout.
and people fort this guy was milking the game for money.. the passion dan had and i think still has for this game is just unbelievable. talks with such passion.
Shauny you have out done yourself. You were always the highlight of every rs3 livestream, and now your giving us so much more. Please if you need anything from the community don't be afraid to ask! We are behind you 100%
I absolutely love this. It brings back the feeling I had when OS was first released. I love what is being done with the game, but at least with the live streams, I feel like a lot of the casualness has been lost. It's gotten very formal and even when there is lighthearted conversation it feels very restrained. I miss the "get good at the game" feel of the old streams.
Thank you so much shauny for doing all your interviews, the only thing players know about these mods are second-hand knowledge and rumors that spread across reddit which dehumanizes them. These interviews really shows them as people who have passions and struggles and it really puts things into perspective.
Seems he had a lot of passion for the game and wanted to see it hit its potential, jagex’s way of handling things people don’t like
I never truly get tired of Runescape. Even WoW doesn't hold a candle to it for me and I have memories of both. I don't know why that is. I think Runescape has something deeply calming and satisfying. I hope OSRS is around for the next 10 years. I see the peak of OSRS as right now, and maybe in 2-3 years we will see a divisive update, something like a new skill.
Say what you will, Reach was one of the best mods we’ve ever had. Thank you for your contributions.
Brandon Kruse Damn right.
Yeah thanks reach for stealing credit cards and money from jagex customers you filthy bastard
STAX onDECK umm where did you hear that
@@staxondeck7352 That never happened. He eventually got fired because he tried to remove AFK training you silly fool
Just finished this, gonna watch the Mod Matt K one soon. Thank you for doing these. Good bad or ugly, it's nice to know what we as players are investing our time and passion into. While I have faith in the OS dev team, it's good to know what the foundation has been built on and what the general perception of the game is from a (past, present, future) business perspective. I truly believe the current management has the games best interest at heart, but it's nice to know the roots and how it got to where it is. Keep it up, only those with first hand experience can really give good insight. Best 3 1/2 hours I've wasted in a while, because it keeps the game human, something that's been lacking for me over the last couple years. I hope Ash can join you, that would be absolutely wonderful.
Watched the video with Ash and MatK, but this one was surpisingly more entertaining to watch. Reach is a good guy, saddens me what happened to him and how he was treated. Glad he did this really :) Hope to see more from you Shauny :D I will go watch another one right after this.
Ex J mod here, can confirm catagorically about the bot situation. Mod name was Mod Arch, and absolutely can confirm foul play at jagex during the 2012 era, I wasn't there long tbf, but can confirm a shit load of nonsense behind the scenes.
These are really great livestreams and eye opening for sure
I thoroughly enjoyed this & your interview with Matt. Would love to see more in the future, and definitely Ash if that works out. Always love hearing from ash as he is so passionate and knowledgeable.
Dan seems like a nice guy, but a little arrogant.
Fucking loved dung, I agree with Dan so much on that. Bring it back!
Probably the best video I've ever watched. Thank you both
Heartbreaking to hear how Jagex was so against him (and the whole osrs team), despite all his great work and efforts. What a great loss. As for you too, Shauny. Im loving these interviews, would definitely check them all out if you would continue making these!
a true legend. they don't make jmods like this anymore
Tristan L2 mod jed was pretty similar
@@ovs4744 nah, Jed was a straight up degenerate.
Chode Master exactly
The Jmods they have now are there one day and gone the next, they don't even care about what happens with the game its just a pay check. Hell even the old heads have been quitting the place though too, sounds like jagex is just miserable to work at.
This shows that Shauny is like Ash. Truly cares about community and wants to gove insight to Jagex and people working there for the player who are graving for information and stories about bts stuff. Love these interviews, been listening while commuting :)
Glad your alright Dan. was good meeting you and talking in game.
It saddens me how 3 jmods sharing a £1k rent is considered expensive... :(
to be fair thats completely out of context, he only mentioned it being a problem 1st in the context of being young and never having a job before. and 2nd in the context of having just been fired/unemployed lol...
Love listening to these on my way to work and on my way home. Keep it up :)
Likewise! Thanks Shauny!
Same here!
Mod Crime of Passion
Nothing nasty here, but it is so hard to enjoy the interview when you are typing away and clicking and looking distracted while the person you're interviewing is talking. I know you are interested in what he has to say but it looks mega rude lol
I loved this. Thnx Shauny and Dan!
Such a shame these people didn't have control over runescape 3, they have such passion, and know the correct direction to take the game that keeps the spirit of it intact.
It's disappointing Dan didn't want to talk about specifics of what happened. Not because we "deserve" to know or anything like that, but my (and probably a lot of players) views on the legacy of Mod Reach will also be in doubt now. "Serious misuse of moderator privileges", is so incredibly (and intentionally) vague, that it could range from intentionally including and abusing bugs for personal gain, to using his employee pass to get in after hours and take a shit on Mat's desk.
Without knowing, whether we listen to rumours or try to ignore and dismiss them, we can't completely block out the idea of imagining a possible scenario where his actions hurt the game or the players. That's unfortunate if it's not the case because it would mar our overall outlook on both him and Jagex unnecessarily.
Here we found this, we want it live in 3 days. That's actually insane to think about.
Wait this guy is actually exactly what osrs need. Why was he fired again?
Good to see that atleast one of the issues (splashing, atleast in lumby) has been fixed
Good to see you actively working on the format. Very excited for what´s to come. I wonder/hope you´ll make inroads into other kinds of content sometime, you´ve a lot to offer I imagine.
Always my favourite mod when i played, glad the whole Corp rumours been squashed.
MisterG Mine as well, he recreated The Corporeal Beast for us.
Time stamp?
@@randallt16 2.36.00
He was a good jmod always had a grounded perspective of the game direction.
I think the polling system is not what made osrs great, but the team behind it is. They truly care about the game and the experience of the players.
mod audi is by far told the most interesting person to listen in this podcast. lifeless imruby is doing god's work with his timestamps as well
Love these, cant wait for hte next Mod Ash instalment!
Yes! I was right! Kieren was the only new Jmod that was added to the team that I completely accepted with ease. His work and care for the game has been phenomenal. And ever since the Inferno, I knew he was one of the best Jmods on the team. I didnt know he was Thee Best addition to the team. But it makes sense. Ive been liking this new Mod Husky lately, as well. He seems to be next up on the top list
god damn am i going to enjoy watching this
Now that’s a headset of an oldschool gamer (literally)
Great interview! Ate it up c :
Hey Shauny, I'm hoping you can help me out here. I'm trying to find the timestamp in either this interview w/ Reach or another OSRS interview of yours -- at one point, one of your guests mentions that Kraken's damage output is bugged, but was never fixed, for fear of how players would react to the "buff" to Kraken's damage output.
Do you remember where that is? Thanks!
Update: Found it. 2:41:30
Omg i fucking love you ty so much
Love Mod Reach
Isn’t this mod shady and purposely placed game altering mechanics that only he knew in order to obtain personal profits?
Please look into the microphone picking up clicks and keyboard strokes. Both are really loud and distracting.
Will do, trying to get better per stream!
@@WrestlingVideosWWF Thanks. Please also look into disabling Windows sounds (like the one when you connect a USB cable)!
Ad Baars already on it!
We all know Jagex is a terribly ran company. Wish they were better to the employees, would result in a better game
maybe try for mod maz or mod weath (with audio only on their side) would also be awesome!
seriously! why was he typing and clicking like a madman during this interview? Obnoxious!!!!!
Great video. Watched half today and will continue the next half tomorrow :)
I remember them saying they caught something he did before it went live. Wonder what it was
He tried to mess up afk training in nmz
Reach was a scumbag
@@staxondeck7352 sounds like he owed people money and decided to try and cause some sort of dupe to rwt to pay it off. hence the comments that he was in a bad place and did what he felt he had to do to get out of a bad situation
At 3:04:00-3:04:25, he drops the biggest hint imo. Previously he spoke about being under-valued and not recieving anything compared to the large salary bonuses that junior MTX devs in RS3 got. In the 25s im talking about, he says that hes not dumb enough to rely on RNG drops. I'd bet he either duped something, like others have said, or directly generated gp using mod privileges and sold it, to make up for what he felt he was owed by Jagex.
@@CXS1181 mod accs can't trade btw he made the gmaul spam bug where you become invincible
Might be a bit late to comment, but I would really like to see Jacmob on this 'podcast/interview'. Guy went from hacking people, making the best bot, working for Jagex, and then make a top tier client for old school.
Trashcan client buddy you mean L000000000l everyone knows it's all about runelite plus
I believe that stereotypical Italian accent that Francesco has is synonymous with Florence
god reach - one of the best mods to grace the game
This was great
Wow mod audi?
Seems like a really nice guy tbh
yeah hes really nice he wanted to name and shame players
@@XJ9LoL Lol if your idea of being "named and shamed" is your RSN being put on a post for bug abuse
He didn't doxx anyone
I don't believe that he was fired for refusing anything. I think that was the excuse they use, and they already had the advantage of the community being accustomed to how vague their so-called explanations are. No, I think they were just frustrated because he was trying to do something they didn't want, and he didn't want some of the things that they did.
What mic is Dan using, you might ask? He's not, he's literally just screaming out the window across london getting picked up by Shauny's mic. You can tell because Shauny's keyboard is both significantly louder and clearer than Dan.
i cant focus with all the clicking i heard.... haha :D
Just got to the part where he explains the clicking... ooops
Reach was such a good mod.
i particularly think the way he introduced an invincibility bug to corp and rwt'ed the gold to buy an audi was great for the community and game! a true figure to look up to as a developer.
What happened to those other Zeah areas anyway? If I remember correctly the current Zeah is only a portion of what was planned like the colosseum type area etc.
Of course Zeah was and still is a bit of a mess with way too much empty space but still
Finally got around to watching this. so good to hear the old storeys with the old very public bug abuse community. It's a shame you couldnt tell why you were fired... but if its too personal thats ok
1:22:20 Not like we are going to add korasi sword to old school. Did not age too well.. xD edit: also sailing lmfao
So Reach changed something in the game based off what he wanted and they fired him for it. If there was no malicious intent then why can't he just say what he did....
Shauny, please don’t type close to the mic, the sound is annoying.
I "think" as the stream went on the audio got better, but duly noted!
I agree, it did get better. Thanks for holding these interviews. I like hearing the personal insights from different J-mods!
Shauny says "like" a lot as a filler word.
Not gonna lie dan was my fav mod and i still like him hes a nice guy
He was talking about kraken doing no damage? Is that a thing?
I enjoy his candidness but I can imagine a lot of people in a corporate work environment wouldn't receive it well. I think it is important to have someone like that on a team. OSRS origin story and their team was like lightning in bottle. Though I will critique his thoughts on polls. They, like any democratic system, give the users a sense of ownership over their reality that they don't get by being strictly ruled over. Personally I see that as one of the reasons the game succeeds. As a game designer I'm sure he could design a better electorate system to account for the flaws he sees without removing it entirely...
Feedback: Try to make sure that the microphone output is more clear/professional sounding (both you and your guest(s)). I know it's kinda hard, especially with guests as not everybody has the means to have something of quality. Even in this video, Dan said he had to go buy a webcam. In this specific video, there is a humming/buzzing noise, almost like a fan in the background. The keyboard presses are loud and some of the computer dings were loud. Not sure how you could solve this... but I am sure that Google has some resources, as I know that others have solved this issue.
Also, we understand that you do this in your free time and sometimes life comes up... but the whole Facebook dinging and the keyboard clickty clack noises are detracting from the audio quality. I haven't caught these live, so I can't really comment on the quality of webcams/background/text/ect but on RUclips, it could be upgraded a bit but for most people like me, they are just here to listen to it, almost like a podcast.
Keep in mind that this is my opinion only and they aren't here to shit on you or your show. Just trying to provide you with some feedback as request. Thanks for keeping these things interesting. Normally I don't care much about developers/ex-developers but I give these a listen while playing or/and at work.
EDIT: As the video progressed, it got way better in the audio department. Mostly after you messed with your OBS settings. :) Also, maybe split the cameras to the side and put the chat in the middle?
#TeamQueen
Nice guy, shame he isn't with Jagex anymore. Was one of my favorite devs to see on the couch every week. Really just wish he would've said what he did or at least gave somewhat of a hint as to what it was. As someone who's been playing since roughly 2003 I find it incredibly interesting to hear from employees in this raw format.
There is/was an incredibly detailed post offsite of what reach did. Was basically just boatloads of selling gold from what I remember.
@@VVVvl230 If that was the case legal action would have been taken. He even says his actions were in no way malicious.
@@dannyway1111 not necessarily. Reach could've been smart about it. Unfortunately I can't recall properly and dont care enough to dig up the thread, but it was made by the group of bug abusers/rwters that dealt with him. Of course he won't admit anything here...
1:30:53 - shauny's reaction
Good show!
I'm sorry but the background noise is extremely unpleasant. You can't let that be a regular occurrence.
Is this the mod who created kraken and was upset cause it was bugged and jagex didn’t let him fix it?
i find it disturbing he's not paying full attention to his guests and just types en mouseclicks trough him talking.
What I'm looking at is actually a copy of my webcam on the right monitor, additionally I was trying to figure out my audio issues through the stream which seemed like they got better as it went on!
@@WrestlingVideosWWF you are right, i made the comment before you switched over to the obs audio thingy. Much better after that. Love the interviews very interesting people!
Heh I thought Dragon full helm dropped cause of a bot dump, made a fair bit of money that day flipping them
What is it with Jmods and owning cats
Dungeoneering is great... as a minigame. I just don't understand why they made it a skill. That still baffles me. It's objectively more of a minigame than a skill.
And the idea that Dungeoneering is better than Invention... how? Invention offers benefits to all other skills including combat, while Dungeoneering offers next to nothing. The resource dungeons are great but don't apply to all skills. Can't remember the last time i used one.
Invention feels like "no matter what i do, Invention can make it better". Meanwhile Dungeoneering feels like you could leave it at level 1, totally ignore it and not even notice.
What a fucking obnoxious keyboard.
This is fucking unwatchable.
43:00 I fucking knew they never banned people for botting back then..
What did reach do to be fired?
Does Dan have Twitter? I want to ask him a question :)
2:19:14 Shauny lol
Mod Reach getting close to sounding like an EoC developer at 3:21:00 or so, saying that radical change is needed for the game to grow.
oh reach loves dungeoneering woo
Watching this has put me off Jagex and RuneScape ool
Did Reach dupe and rwt?
Yups
@@dragonflyer023 Did he admit it?
I think also part of the reason devs would get upset about showing off how well osrs did compared to rs3 is maybe some of them wanted to work on osrs because they realized they were killing rs3 with mtx and other updates they didnt agree with and they just never got the opportunity to work on the oldschool team. I know nothing about jagex just an idea.
Im not fully sure either, but as someone who played/still plays both games it always feels like just a one sided attack from osrs.
A significant portion of players play osrs because they don't like rs3 for whatever reason, and it's like they finally got given a place to enjoy with osrs being released, but for some reason they used it as an excuse to be loud and vocal about everything they dislike about rs3 when they used to play, and attack rs3 out of frustration with every single update they didn't like in the past, whereas rs3 players are sat there trying to enjoy the game and getting hate thrown at them for no apparent reason.
I know that's mainly about the playerbase but Jmods do it too, like it's so common for osrs devs to be so toxic and say stuff like "don't want to end up like rs3 did" on stream when talking about potential updates etc.
And it's really died down now as people are more accepting and being a lot more friendly and switching between games due to the content drought we've being going through the last year, but still exists in sort of that one sided attack mentality that osrs players have of "look we get more players which validates all the hate and proves rs3 is trash so screw you"
Get Chris L on this!
Disliked purely for how wildy bosses are coded, sorry Reach.
Talking about risk in the wilderness... how about just simple... if you die in the wilderness you lose everything you are carrying. Your armour, weapons and inventory. No protect items. Just go in at your own risk.
3h nice
The keyboard strokes and clicks made me stop watching after like 20 minutes, please fix this because it makes the video just not even worth watching.
shocked you were even able to get this interview, why are you clicking your mouse the entire time and not even paying attention to him? jesus fucking christ
Mate, pay attention to the person you're interviewing or at least find a way to mute your keyboard noises. This guy has a story and idgaf about your exp
please stop with the clicks and typing during the interviews. its terrible and makes me not want to continue to watch