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  • Who is the angel of the Lord? Was the angel of the Lord a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ?
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  • @halohair1118
    @halohair1118 6 месяцев назад +7

    The book of Jude certainly makes it seem like the angel of the Lord is Jesus, he says our lord Jesus led them out of Egypt, and the Angel of the Lord is the one who went before Israel when they were leaving Egypt. And Angel just means one who brings a message or word, it doesn’t just mean cherub or seraph which is what most people think of when they hear the word Angel, they don’t realize that a human being, a seraph or whoever can bring a message word. And in John he calls Jesus the Word, ie the Message, or the Angel
    Not only that but the Angel of the lord speaks as if He is God multiple times in the OT, even though he might not be sitting on a throne looking down but is walking around having basics conversations with people, whether in a glorified form or blending in as a man. Hagar says she saw God when the angel visited her, Jacob says he wrestled with god when he saw the angel, there was a couple who had a man visit them and they said they saw God and the husband was afraid they would die. The angel appears to Abram and Sarai and tells them I will give you child, as if he is God himself, he doesn’t say this is what he lord says, he speaks as if he is the lord, and many other times I can’t think off the top of my head. Yet, exodus 33 20 and John 1:18 make it seem like no one has ever seen God and lived, so how can this be? Is this a contradiction? I think this is why the trinity makes perfect sense
    I don’t claim to understand the trinity in its entirety as Gods nature is truly a marvelous mystery, but it seems to me, YHWH the father is the being or manifestation of God outside the physical realm, we are unable to be in God the fathers presence in flesh and blood. He is too powerful. He sits on the throne in heaven and flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, being in God the fathers presence will kill you, he is too powerful
    God the Son or the Angel of the Lord, seems to be Gods being or manifestation in the physical realm able to interact with creation, still God, but a separate being in a different realm. He has the authority of God the father from heaven on earth, this is how YHWH can rain down fire from YHWH on sodom and Gomorrah David says the lord said to my lord. This is how the lord “walks” through the Garden in Genesis, it’s God the son not god the father.
    God the spirit seems to be everywhere, not confined to one body as a spirit is ethereal, but can take the form of one if he wants too. He also has the authority and power of God as he hovers over the waters and orders the cosmos in Genesis and in revelation the spirit of God is also in heaven next to to the father while the son approaches the throne.
    So this is how God can be everywhere at once maybe? And God didn’t stop being God or come down from his throne when Jesus clothed himself in flesh, the Spirit is still everywhere and Father is still on the throne. This ain’t to say the other persons in the trinity can’t do what the others do such as the Son being omnipresent or the Spirit taking a form or the Father making himself manifest or interact with creation, it just seems in scripture to me, these are the roles they generally partake in when it comes to us as people
    That is my understanding of the trinity but again I’m not claiming to be the final word on this matter.

    • @BillHirsch1417
      @BillHirsch1417 5 месяцев назад +1

      What could help you sharpen up your language when speaking of the Trinity is reading the Athanasian Creed. Also just watching the funny video by Lutheran Satire - just youtube “that’s modalism Patrick” even though its satirical it is a great way to learn more about how we speak of the Trinity
      We just want to be sure to sharpen up our speech when we speak of such things and not fall into the trap of 1 God who puts on different forms ; or 3 separate Gods. But it is 1 God who exists eternally as 3 coequal persons who serve different roles but each share all the divine attributes and nature of God as 1.
      You are probably thinking “yeah thats what i said” lol but definitely check out that Lutheran Satire video it makes what I am saying make more sense

    • @georgetavares4632
      @georgetavares4632 2 месяца назад

      Good job on this.
      BTW, it was Samson’s father, “Manoah”, who after seeing the Angel of the Lord, expected to die (w/ seeing God).

  • @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
    @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634 2 года назад +21

    Not Father but Son

    • @masterofpain120
      @masterofpain120 Год назад

      No, the Third Person. The Holy Ghost. Michael.

    • @maribelibrahim8560
      @maribelibrahim8560 Год назад +10

      @@masterofpain120Michael is an angel, a created being

    • @masterofpain120
      @masterofpain120 Год назад

      @@maribelibrahim8560 Michael is the Advocate. Christ said him and the Father were sending another in his name, and the Holy Spirit is known as the Paraclete and Advocate. I believe it's the book of Daniel that speaks of "Michael the Great Prince" who will stand up at the times of the end. Look back into ancient Judaism and Michael was known as the "Foremost Prince" who advocates on behalf of the children of Israel. Read between the lines

    • @Billionaire123
      @Billionaire123 Год назад

      matthew 19:18-19 kjv

    • @MC-sn2so
      @MC-sn2so Год назад

      @@masterofpain120
      You don’t have to read between the lines . The words are there for you to actually read .
      Duet 32.8 .. the sons of God … Princes were given to the nations as their elohim .
      Michael is Israel’s … their prince as Daniel clearly states. He’s still in heaven in revelation 12 casting out the adversary .
      Michael is a created being as are all the bene ga elohim .

  • @sebastiangruffydd2765
    @sebastiangruffydd2765 4 месяца назад +4

    It WAS the Angel of the LORD who rolled away the stone at the entrance of Jesus' tome. The LORD was reclaiming his earthly body. He rolled away the stone, then re-entered his dead body. 🙏 Shalom. 🖖🔥🌈

  • @Billionaire123
    @Billionaire123 Год назад +1

    Prayer's Stay Prayed up Appreciate You World Changers Church [Imagination]

  • @twiceborn_by_grace
    @twiceborn_by_grace Год назад +3

    In the NKJV, why is “the angel of the Lord” capitalized and other times it’s not (Angel/angel)?

    • @MC-sn2so
      @MC-sn2so Год назад +1

      It’s capitalised when the Hebrew YHWH is used in the same phrase .
      The LORD - YHWH

  • @anishdavid952
    @anishdavid952 Год назад

    Thank You❤

  • @DanielMinjares
    @DanielMinjares Месяц назад

    Me and the Father are one for he could resurrect me from the crucification.

  • @BrotherDuncanGM
    @BrotherDuncanGM Год назад +3

    Stop lying on the scripture! Matthew 1:20, Matthew 1:24, Matthew 2:13, Matthew 28:2, Luke 2:9, Acts 5:19, Acts 8:26, Acts 12:7, Acts 12:23... 9 verses in the New Testament mentioning the angel of the Lord. As well as his angel being mentioned in Acts 12:11, Revelation 1:1, Revelation 22:6, and Revelation 22:16. AND in Acts 27:23, Paul says For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve...

  • @eliyahuisnotme7717
    @eliyahuisnotme7717 Год назад +1

    When you see Yerushalayim with invader's gather against Her and invading.
    Than Yahusha will return.
    But He will have the Name of Yahuah.
    He was the Malach of Yahuah. Before He came down as Yahusha.
    But now there will be echad Yahuah.
    And Yahuah shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahuah, and his name echad. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:9 את CEPHER
    Blessed be he that comes in the name of Yahuah: we have blessed you out of the house of Yahuah. TEHILLIYM (PSALMS) 118:26 את CEPHER
    Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and Amein I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that comes in the name of Yahuah. LUQAS (LUKE) 13:35 את CEPHER
    BEHOLD, the day of Yahuah comes, and your spoil shall be divided in the midst of you. For I will gather all nations against Yerushalayim to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city. Then shall Yahuah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:1-3 את CEPHER
    Then shall Yahuah go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the Mount of Olives, which is before Yerushalayim on the east, and the Mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the Negev. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:3-4 את CEPHER
    Which also said, Ye men of Galiyl, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Yahusha, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Then returned they unto Yerushalayim from the Mount called Olivet, which is from Yerushalayim a Shabbath day's journey. MA'ASIYM (ACTS) 1:11-12 את CEPHER
    In that day shall Yahuah defend the inhabitants of Yerushalayim; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as Daviyd; and the house of Daviyd shall be as Elohiym, as the angel of Yahuah before them. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Yerushalayim. And I will pour upon the house of Daviyd, and upon the inhabitants of Yerushalayim, the Ruach Chen V’TACHANUNIYM: and they shall look upon me את whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for his yachiyd, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Yerushalayim, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddo. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 12:8-11 את CEPHER
    And Yahuah shall be King over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Yahuah, and his name one. ZAKARYAHU (ZECHARIAH) 14:9 את CEPHER
    I have glorified you on the earth: I have finished the work which you gave me to do. And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was. את I have manifested your name unto the men which you gave me out of the world: yours they were, and you gave them me; and they have guarded your word. YOCHANON (JOHN) 17:4-6 את CEPHER
    And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Yashar'el, and that I am Yahuah Elohaykem, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Ruach upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my Ruach. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of Yahuah come. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of Yahuah shall be delivered: for in Mount Tsiyon and in Yerushalayim shall be deliverance, as Yahuah has said, and in the remnant whom Yahuah shall call. YO'EL (JOEL) 2:27-32 את CEPHER

  • @josuegandolfo
    @josuegandolfo 7 месяцев назад

    Hi ! You need to remember the three persons received by Abraham (or should I say Abraham was invited haha). How many persons ? 3 ? So all three are Jesus-Christ ? No just one of them. The first one is The FATHER, the second one The Son and the last one The Holy Spirit aka the Angel of the Lord (because later just two angels went to Sodome and Gomorrha). But who is the angel then ? Agar in the desert, Moses in the bush, and...Daniel ! (and Ezekiel and Zakarhia). So for me, the Angel of the Lord is Gabriel aka the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth that came to say all truth (just as he baptised with a new name Jacob and talked to Mary and told her the name of her son). But hey that just a thinking exercise !....or it's not ;) take care and God bless !

  • @TheDoneroll
    @TheDoneroll Месяц назад

    How about The Angel Of The Lord ,that struck down 185,000 Assyrian soldiers? 2 Kings 19:35, Isaiah 37:36, 2 Chronicles 32:21 ... ?

  • @mohammedbewitched8984
    @mohammedbewitched8984 Год назад +4

    Malach YHWH is Yeshua HaMasiach

  • @Billionaire123
    @Billionaire123 Год назад

    Romans 5:20 Douay-Rheims 1899

  • @Billionaire123
    @Billionaire123 Год назад

    Amos 8:11 Douay-Rheims 1899

  • @Annie-vs3xl
    @Annie-vs3xl 11 месяцев назад +5

    The Angel of the Lord was Jesus!

  • @kiroshakir7935
    @kiroshakir7935 Год назад

    I disagree with the possibility that it was god the father actually i disagree with the possibility of apperances of god the father. John 1:18-20
    New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition
    18 No one has ever seen God. It is the only Son, himself God, who[a] is close to the Father’s heart,[b] who has made him known. Colossians 1:15
    New International Version
    The Supremacy of the Son of God
    15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.

  • @sebastiangruffydd2765
    @sebastiangruffydd2765 4 месяца назад

    You are incorrect. The angel of the LORD did in in fact roll away the stone of Jesus's tomb, in order to reclaim his body within. Have a nice day. Shalom.🖖🔥🌈

    • @heydude7568
      @heydude7568 4 месяца назад +1

      scripture please that this was the angel of the Loed

    • @thelandonm1357
      @thelandonm1357 4 месяца назад +1

      Matthew actually says “AN angel of the LORD” not “THE angel of the LORD” as seen in the Old Testament

  • @MohamedEid-gf8hr
    @MohamedEid-gf8hr 10 месяцев назад +2

    The Angel of the Lord is God the Father , Jesus said I have no power except what the Father gives me , Jesus is not the Father .

    • @corkystorky
      @corkystorky 5 месяцев назад +3

      If the Angel of the Lord is God the Father, then who is the Lord in Angel of the 'Lord'? Can we say Angel of the Father, then who is the angel of the Father? It cannot be Father of the Father, right? So the angel of the Lord is not God the Father like you said.

    • @drumpogrom
      @drumpogrom 4 месяца назад

      Lol a clueless Unitarian

  • @Kralj_Josija
    @Kralj_Josija 6 месяцев назад

    1. Corinthians 10
    1For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.
    6Now these things occurred as examples to keep us from setting our hearts on evil things as they did. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were; as it is written: “The people sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry.” a 8We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did-and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9We should not test Christ, b as some of them did-and were killed by snakes.

  • @noelcollado1313
    @noelcollado1313 Год назад

    Bbbk

  • @TheRealMadDog
    @TheRealMadDog Год назад +1

    Bro this didn't teach me shit wdf 😂

    • @los9310
      @los9310 Год назад +2

      It's pre incarcerated Jesus Christ God the Son, before He descended down from Heaven.

    • @christianvegito
      @christianvegito 9 месяцев назад

      Why would angel of the Lord be a title for Jesus aka the Son? I'm just confused ​@@los9310

  • @RodMartinJr
    @RodMartinJr 4 месяца назад

    Conflating "messenger" (angel) of God (Yahweh) with Yahweh is logically fallacious (False Equivalence). And conflating this messenger with Jesus is doubly fallacious. This is similar to conflating Son OF God with God Himself.
    Read Hebrews 1.1-2, paying particularly close attention to the words "BUT in these Last Days..." Throughout the OT the LORD (Yahweh) spoke through someone who was NOT the Son, but in the Last Days *_was_* the Son.
    😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
    Reference: Trinity Delusion channel

  • @uo-aliengod6952
    @uo-aliengod6952 Год назад +1

    The Son of Man was actually the Angel of Lord whose name is incomprehensible. He goes by many angelic names such as Muriel, Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Metatron, Sandalphon, Raziel, Eremiel, Uriel, Anapiel, Ananiel, Azrael, Azazel, etc. He the Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God. He is God the Holy Spirit that will be born as a man, a mortal man and the throne and key of david(according to the address to the seventh angel of Philadelphea) will be given to him to reign as a King forever and ever. He is the One Who Sits on the Throne whose face the heaven and earth fled and there was found no more. He is the Arm of the Lord who was hidden by the shadow of the Lord Of Host(Jesus Christ) hands so that the Lord can lay foundations of the heavens and the earth. He is the Voice of the Lord(Jesus Christ). He is Abaddon the Destroyer - the Divine Destroying Angel and the Arm of Destruction. The Prince of Persia as a Man Cloth in Linen seen by the vision of Daniel as well as the angel who had like the appearance of man who wake up and spoke to Daniel in Daniel 10 about the vision of the Great Angelic Being and his Two Anointed Ones(Two Witnesses) corncerning the Last Days(Modern Day Era) that if anyone received it, He is the Elias Who Will Restore All Things spoken by Jesus Christ himself to Peter, James and John after his Transfiguration. He is the Goat for Azazel(Scapegoat) who will redeem the Earth by taking away all the records of Sins of all humanity by taking it away into the wilderness(2nd Phase of Atonement, the 1st Phase is the Lamb of God was killed so that humanity and the Earth will be cleansed by the Blood of the Lamb.) He is the Angel of Repentance who is as pitiless as any demon in the Apocalypse of Peter. He is Eremiel who is in charge of the souls of the dead that died in the Flood of Noah. He is the Messiah Ben David who will come before 6000 years from the time of the Fall Adam according to Zohar. He was always been accompanied by two angels who visit Abraham and escort Lot and his family out of Sodom and Gomorrah and prayed to the Angel of the Lord, for He is the LORD because God's name(YHVH, Yahweh, YHWH, Jehovah) is in him. He is the High Priest of Israel. The Messiah Ben Joseph and the Goat for Jehovah is Jesus Christ.

    • @GB2G
      @GB2G Год назад +1

      Oh no

    • @茶色Aaron
      @茶色Aaron Год назад

      @SheepOfChrist818 I agree what you said about Jesus, the angels he is referring to are from the book of Enoch, all the names of angels are in there along with the rest of genesis, really nice read clears up some things left out of the bible. peace to you my friend.

    • @MC-sn2so
      @MC-sn2so Год назад +2

      Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.

  • @ivanos_95
    @ivanos_95 Год назад

    The angel of the lord is a title for Yahweh, who's lord of the Israelites. However, he's clearly not God/Christ himself, but like the title suggests, he's one of the Elohim, or the highest messenger/angel of God.

    • @jmonie02
      @jmonie02 Год назад

      Or Arch Angel Michael

    • @ivanos_95
      @ivanos_95 Год назад

      @@jmonie02 Sure they're Arch-Angels, but two different Arch-Angels, with different status/roles.

    • @ivanos_95
      @ivanos_95 Год назад +1

      @samronberhane8785 The pre-incarnate Christ is the second person of the Trinity, and a human person of Jesus, who have been united through the incarnation. Are you suggesting that Yahweh is one of those two, or he's an angel of God, namely an angelic being?

    • @ivanos_95
      @ivanos_95 Год назад

      @samronberhane8785 We agree that Christ have two natures, namely a devine nature, and a human nature, but I'm not sure if understood you correctly. If you claim that Yahweh is the pre-incarnate Christ, are you saying that he's the divine, second person of God, or the human person of Jesus?

    • @ivanos_95
      @ivanos_95 Год назад

      @samronberhane8785 Again, is Yahweh the second person of the Trinity/God, is he a human being (Jesus), or is he an angelic being?

  • @codeykeenan8128
    @codeykeenan8128 Год назад

    Archangel Michael and the lord

  • @mitchellc4
    @mitchellc4 2 года назад +6

    Not Jesus
    Hello
    Jesus is the Messiah
    The Son of God
    The Son of David
    The Son of man
    The man God has chosen to be his anointed king
    The man God will judge the world through
    The man God raised from the dead
    Jesus has a God
    There is no triune god in scripture
    Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
    John 17
    3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.

    • @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
      @SyedMuhammadMoaz3634 2 года назад +5

      Answer the question who is The Angel of the LORD Malak YHWH ⁉️

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 2 года назад +1

      @@SyedMuhammadMoaz3634
      Hello
      The angel of YHVH is an angel
      A messenger

    • @johnscott7937
      @johnscott7937 2 года назад +5

      Read Jude 1:5. If NKJV, read Psalms 110:1 first. If you use the ESV, it's very explicit who the Angel of the LORD who saved Israel from Egypt is. God bless you, seek His Truth.

    • @mitchellc4
      @mitchellc4 2 года назад

      @@johnscott7937
      Hello John
      God is not an angel
      Angels are God’s messengers
      Psalm 110:1 has nothing to do with angels
      And proves Jesus isn’t God
      The LORD said to my lord
      YHVH said to adoni
      God said to not God
      adoni is never used for God

    • @johnscott7937
      @johnscott7937 2 года назад +5

      @@mitchellc4 Jude 1:5 "Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day-". Jude just said Jesus is the one who saved Israel from Egypt in the Exodus. Read Exodus 3. Who was in the burning bush? I feel like u speak without knowledge.

  • @macfranks2456
    @macfranks2456 Год назад

    Jesus would not and did not appear in the old testament before He was born. He wasn't born yet and therefore, did not exist as the Lord made flesh. To do some sort of pre-incarnate appearing would actually have been a deception. The angel of the Lord has a very specific and particular assignment to be the personal messenger of and for the Lord. He is the Lords spokesman and he spoke and acted directly on the Lord's command. In some of his interactions with people the angel spoke of the Lord in the third person. The Lord spoke of Himself as I, I am, My Spirit, I will, have I seen and many more times.
    The angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph after Jesus had been born and therefore can not be the Lord himself. There was no pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus. Those appearances were mostly angels but in a very few, very rare occurrances were the Lord Himself. Sometimes Jesus spoke of things that He did prior to His birth as a human revealing that He was the Lord made flesh and He is the Lord God.

    • @macfranks2456
      @macfranks2456 Год назад +1

      @samronberhane8785 Zechariah 1:12 and 13.
      Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years? 13And the LORD answered the angel that talked with me with good words and comfortable words.

    • @justinpartogi
      @justinpartogi Год назад +2

      Angel comes from the Greek word angelos, in the Hebrew Bible, angels are called malakh, and just like angelos, malakh also means "massanger"
      That word (malakh) can refer to a divine being and a human being, in fact there were 88 cases where humans were called malakh/angelos/massanger in the Hebrew Bible!
      For example, the people sent by Jacob to meet Esau were called Malakhim
      And now the Bible makes it clear that God can also be a messenger! God is too holy and no one can see his face for whoever does so will die, so he introduce himself to the world through his son, his word, his Logos...Jesus is God's Logos, and God's Logos make appearance in the Hebrew Bible several Times by the title "angel of the lord" or "massanger of the lord"
      Examples of incidents where Jesus appears in the Old Testament👇
      Genesis 22:11-12 (KJV) And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
      And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
      Pay attention to how the Angel of the Lord speak: "Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God,..." he said Abraham fear God, but look at what comes next!: "...seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son FROM ME!" Wait? So angel of the lord just claimed to be God but at the same time he was not God?
      From this we can know that the angel of the lord is Jesus because the Logos of God is clearly distinct from God but at the same time is also God
      Look the same thing just repeats again!👇
      Genesis 22:15-18 (KJV) And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
      And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
      That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
      And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
      The Angel of the lord just said "you obeyed MY VOICE"
      After we put all these things together it makes sense why Christians believe that Jesus is the massanger of the lord, meanwhile this is what Jesus said in the New Testament!👇
      John 8:54-58 (KJV) Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:
      Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
      Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
      Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
      Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    • @justinpartogi
      @justinpartogi Год назад +1

      And I guess I should add this too...
      The angel of the lord is not merly God's spokesman...that idea came from judaism and the book they used to provide the information is not even Canon and contain heresy! It is in the book of Enoch!
      In the book, Enoch is raised to heaven to become Metatron (an angel) and Metatron is the "angel of the Lord" or God's spokesman...In fact rejecting the Trinity has made the Jews struggle with several biblical verses where the "angel of the lord" claims to be God, metatron being God's spokesman is the answer they can give but even that idea again came from the book of enoch...and that book is not even Canon ಠ⁠︵⁠ಠ

    • @chrisoreva1416
      @chrisoreva1416 11 месяцев назад +1

      Completely misguided! Pls read your Bible. The scriptures talks about a special angel many times in the old testament the Angel of the Lord! The same Angel was called God by those who had encounter with him and he also calls himself God and speaks as God in the burning bush and to Abraham when he was to sacrifice Isaac. Note that the same Angel was given power by God to forgive the sins of the isrealites in the wilderness. So who else can this special Angel be if not Christ?

    • @macfranks2456
      @macfranks2456 11 месяцев назад

      @@chrisoreva1416 He is the messenger of the Lord. He has been given the authority to speak directly for the Lord. In the OT people commonly mistook angels for God and the messenger of the Lord in particular. The angel manifested the bush that burned but was not consumed as the Lord had instructed him to do. It was Jehovah the Lord himself who spoke to Moses. It was not Christ. Christ did not exist at that time as he had not been born. This attempt to equate the messenger of the Lord to Christ is due to a misunderstanding of the nature of the Lord in the spirit and how His nature was forever changed when the Lord became Jesus.