The whole Acemagic thing is a bit of a tragedy tbh. It's put a black mark not only on their own company, but the whole industry when it comes to cheap mini pcs. ... Guess what we're reviewing next? 😸
I have the 5700u and it plays ps3 full speed using the most recent version of the ps3 emulator. This 5800h is more powerful and is probably a great place to enter the mini pc world
@@TeamPandory been playing my 300 game launchbox light gun build on it for the past few weeks. It runs about 90 percent of the titles that a gtx 1650 will run
@@arcaderacer586 Nice! Guessing you have it tricked out with an assortment of Teknoparrot games? You know I'd love to give that driving x shooting game another real go... What was the name, Lucky and Wild?
@@TeamPandory I have every TP gun game on the build that was originally a arcade shooter…. Most of them run ok with the exception of a few that arent fully compatible with amd gpu’s I dont have lucky and wild but I will see about adding it. You should check out kriscoolmods retrobeast 2tb light gun build man. Its stacked. Reach out to him,he is sponsering many tubers with a drive right now. I wouod say you have well enough subs to get one
These minis are getting hard to ignore, performance-wise but some brands are starting to implement some lowkey spying. That login and network step is a little too suspicious in light of the AceMagic malware scandal. It's like "Before you can scan your PC, please help our stealth version of AnyDesk! What's your WiFi credentials again?"
Nice review Tim, can't but support you 100% on your stance on the OS, the monster that is MS needs a leash on it. Being unable to scan the machine without logging on is just dangerous..
Yup. I've been given instructions on how to skip it but even so the average buyer would be clueless that it can be done. We should be choosing to opt in rather than grinding to opt out of sharing our data.
The Microsoft setup requirements are always going to be tough for OEMs. A default install of Windows requires you to login in, so any local login is always going to look like a dodgy Windows account. There is a workaround to set up a local account, but Microsoft ought to build a security check into initial setup routines, before it asks for personal data. At least if you already have a Microsoft account you don't have to put in a password to login because it goes through MFA. Not much protection, of course
Its totally Microsoft pushing the online account being required when setting up Win 11. Get a Win 11 install direct from MS and it does the same thing. Any OOBE for Win 11 that allows you to bypass the online account creation by using a local account would be a red flag that the Win 11 install is a hacked version not genuine from MS. As you said when in doubt boot up a Win 11 install USB and wipe the drive and install your own copy from a trusted source.
It's certainly possible, but you're only going to get a couple of frames extra if that. We tried on another mini last year and the biggest change is the UI.
For the price I think the GMKtech K2 with the Ryzen 7735 HS is a much better deal. Although we are definitely going in an exciting direction with these.
The K2 definitely has a better GPU, but if you need storage options and don't need to push games, the Geekom A5 isn't a bad choice at all. GMKTEC did really good with their last round of minipcs tbh. What I'd like to see is each of these companies pushing improvements, it may be difficult when we're getting comments like "We need cheaper", as this gives incentive to cut corners with development, testing, and worst of all, cheaper components.
USB 1? Not even USB 1.1? I guess they really don't like when people ask for USB 4.0. just to clarify because I forgot, when you say for example 1080p low and you show 64% full, you mean 691p? HA! I loved the zoom in the...crowns. Surely there must be an easy way to enter Windows with an offline account. I have seen people mention it before. Good system, no question about it, not perfect, but very good. BTW, the geekom links don't work. I wonder how good it would be in video editing. Thanks for another good video.
@@TeamPandory You are welcome. Unfortunately I am poor so I can't afford anything, but I am sure some will be able to do so. Thanks for the thought either way.
@@TeamPandory USB 1.0 was almost enough to make you not want anything to do with USB. I know it made me feel this way back in the day. Thankfully it didn't take too long for 1.1 to appear. Speaking of which, I wonder if Windows 10/11 support USB 1.1 devices. Then again, where one would even find such. NVM. Have a nice day.
'This product is currently out of stock and unavailable'. A common message in the good old U of K when it comes to GEEKOM. And from what another reviewer has recently stated, they seem not to like completely honest reviews, with constructive criticism, delaying some reviewers until the fan boys have reaped praise. Not a good look for them. As far as the hardware is concerned though, not too bad at all all things considered.
Apparently there's a shipment due in the next few days. Unsure about the whole criticism thing, but it's pretty obvious noone wants to have any crits on their products, especially when they're a smaller company. Saying that we've not pulled anything and put up the video without any vetting or input from them... It's a good machine, very solid, but the fan is a little loud.
Got one about a month ago, using it for office / small business and video recording. Performance is impressive, quick start, great at multitasking. The only minus is the fan noise, makes audio recording difficult. Other than that, no regrets.
Do you think this could handle console streaming? Nothing fancy: A camera, the game (captured from a PS4) and some alerts. Looking out for cheap options for my younger brother who's into that world.
It should be okay, but if you're using one for video it may be better to get a 6000 series of Ryzen or higher. They have av1, faster memory, and will generally be better for that. We have a video in the works now that should help you out. Should be up by tomorrow 😅
@@TeamPandory My parents don't wanna buy my little brother a "full-fledged" PC yet so I turned my eyes into the Mini PCs to try to support his hobby/desire. This A5 currently sits at $379 which I can afford so that's why I'm asking. Thanks for your reply!
Hi, your review is really helpful 👍. By the way there is another geekom a5 model with r7 5825u, do you know which one is better? Especially in heat to performance part, because i live in tropical country. Thanks
If you live in a hot country, I'd advise getting a computer that has two fans. We did a roundup of cheap mini pc units for the Amazon sale recently. That should give you a nice selection to choose from
I got one of these with one of those KinHank 3 TB hard drives but I can not get anything, including NES games to play smoothly. Any ideas what could be happenings?
Easiest way on most of these computers, is to go into the search bar at the bottom of Windows, then type in startup, then click on ADVANCED STARTUP OPTIONS, then click the option of *restart now* under "advanced startup" . Soon as it restarts, navigate the menu to find the one that states "enter UEFI settings" or something like that. Hope that helps 🙂
What I get more performance if I get the PELADN HA-4 Minicomputer, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS It is single channel ram 16GB DDR5 512GB NVME Instead of the GMKtec M6 Mini PC AMD R5 660OH 6-core 12-thread Computer 16GB DDR5 512GB PCle 3.0 SSD WiFi6 BT5.2 Which one would give me the best possible FPS.😁
@@silverinesilver they might perform around the same until you get dual ddr5 in the peladn. Tbh the peladn might even be worse. Putting the RAM in single channel mode will give around 60-70% it's true potential.
@@serenityep2 This is specced slightly higher than the (newer) M5. The M5 uses a very low power AMD chip, this one in the geekom A5 is clocked higher. The 5825U should perform similar to the 5700U. We've done gametests with the 5700U and the 5800H, and the 5800H is a step higher.
@@serenityep2 Yeah, should be okay. If you do want to play games though, I'd say stretch to the M6 or the M7. There's a nice bump in performance with the GPU with those systems.
The K2 has the faster chip and should get more fps. But the case is flawed due to the memory bit having active cooling (the M6 has a fan). This can cause thermal throttling in the K2, so it's advised to get the revision (K5 which we reviewed)
Check the Geekom HP link, currently $399, use the coupon, $20 off. $379. For what it is, the price is quite reasonable, especially once comparing to the competition.
Yeah.. but thats unfair.. ARC A730m is VGA while Radeon Vega 8 is integrated. And btw, can you get 32gb RAM and 512 GB SSD sata m.2/nvme with that $600..? Bcuz this mini pc only cost you $399 with all that, minus VGA.
As they say, "One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel"- And if that were the case, you should be applying that to every computer ever manufactured. The computers in the 90s were atrocious. While we should be wary, this malware practice was found on a computer by a different manufacturer. It's a shame others are tarnished.
According to Roblox hardware requirements, it should run fine - But I'd definitely recommend getting something a little more powerful for any gaming. GMKtec M7 or K8 plus (that we recently reviewed) will be able to run this, and much more.
At what point did the children of today decide to start pronouncing "VESA" as "VAYSSA"? It's been pronounced like VISA since the 90s. Is this some kind of new millennial and Gen Z thing?
I got one a few months ago and finally got it set up today - I'm impressed at how much it can do
Had to lough my ass off at the size comparison 😂 your reviews are so entertaining (very unique). Thumbs up from me!
Thankyou :-) This time we kept it relevant for the younger audience by introducing a Nintendo Switch.
Thank you for the Acemagic news. Something everyone should look into as soon as possible.
The whole Acemagic thing is a bit of a tragedy tbh. It's put a black mark not only on their own company, but the whole industry when it comes to cheap mini pcs. ... Guess what we're reviewing next? 😸
I have the 5700u and it plays ps3 full speed using the most recent version of the ps3 emulator. This 5800h is more powerful and is probably a great place to enter the mini pc world
Yeah. The 5700u is a great piece of kit that it's easy to recommend, especially for emulsion fans :-)
What games have you been playing?
@@TeamPandory been playing my 300 game launchbox light gun build on it for the past few weeks. It runs about 90 percent of the titles that a gtx 1650 will run
@@arcaderacer586 Nice! Guessing you have it tricked out with an assortment of Teknoparrot games?
You know I'd love to give that driving x shooting game another real go... What was the name, Lucky and Wild?
@@TeamPandory I have every TP gun game on the build that was originally a arcade shooter…. Most of them run ok with the exception of a few that arent fully compatible with amd gpu’s I dont have lucky and wild but I will see about adding it. You should check out kriscoolmods retrobeast 2tb light gun build man. Its stacked. Reach out to him,he is sponsering many tubers with a drive right now. I wouod say you have well enough subs to get one
what about switch?
These minis are getting hard to ignore, performance-wise but some brands are starting to implement some lowkey spying.
That login and network step is a little too suspicious in light of the AceMagic malware scandal. It's like "Before you can scan your PC, please help our stealth version of AnyDesk! What's your WiFi credentials again?"
But is this something that Microsoft is pushing? I know ms aren't really strangers to being anti consumer, especially in the last few years.
I'm doing emulation of Switch, PS3 and WiiU and below on a 5560U so I'd expect the machine in this video to kick butt in that department
Nice review Tim, can't but support you 100% on your stance on the OS, the monster that is MS needs a leash on it. Being unable to scan the machine without logging on is just dangerous..
Yup. I've been given instructions on how to skip it but even so the average buyer would be clueless that it can be done.
We should be choosing to opt in rather than grinding to opt out of sharing our data.
Best mini pc review I've ever watched, thanks!
@@hellomyfriend974 😮. Holy crap. Thanks for the kind comment 😊
The Microsoft setup requirements are always going to be tough for OEMs. A default install of Windows requires you to login in, so any local login is always going to look like a dodgy Windows account.
There is a workaround to set up a local account, but Microsoft ought to build a security check into initial setup routines, before it asks for personal data. At least if you already have a Microsoft account you don't have to put in a password to login because it goes through MFA. Not much protection, of course
I think the next logical step is to go the Linux route :-)
@@TeamPandory Rabbit hole alert!
Its totally Microsoft pushing the online account being required when setting up Win 11. Get a Win 11 install direct from MS and it does the same thing. Any OOBE for Win 11 that allows you to bypass the online account creation by using a local account would be a red flag that the Win 11 install is a hacked version not genuine from MS. As you said when in doubt boot up a Win 11 install USB and wipe the drive and install your own copy from a trusted source.
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Notpokemon! 😂
But can it run Doom? No, jokes aside, have you tried running SteamOS on it? Would be nice to know how much better it performs on these ...
It's certainly possible, but you're only going to get a couple of frames extra if that.
We tried on another mini last year and the biggest change is the UI.
For the price I think the GMKtech K2 with the Ryzen 7735 HS is a much better deal. Although we are definitely going in an exciting direction with these.
The K2 definitely has a better GPU, but if you need storage options and don't need to push games, the Geekom A5 isn't a bad choice at all.
GMKTEC did really good with their last round of minipcs tbh.
What I'd like to see is each of these companies pushing improvements, it may be difficult when we're getting comments like "We need cheaper", as this gives incentive to cut corners with development, testing, and worst of all, cheaper components.
USB 1? Not even USB 1.1? I guess they really don't like when people ask for USB 4.0.
just to clarify because I forgot, when you say for example 1080p low and you show 64% full, you mean 691p?
HA! I loved the zoom in the...crowns.
Surely there must be an easy way to enter Windows with an offline account. I have seen people mention it before.
Good system, no question about it, not perfect, but very good.
BTW, the geekom links don't work.
I wonder how good it would be in video editing.
Thanks for another good video.
Give me a few minutes to fix them. I have some coupons too 😺
Ok, the links should be fixed, and I also added information regarding a coupon code. Thanks for the heads up! 😎
Regarding the USB-C (as USB1??) - I'm pretty sure it's a typo. You gotta be psycho to use USB1 speeds in 2024.
@@TeamPandory You are welcome. Unfortunately I am poor so I can't afford anything, but I am sure some will be able to do so. Thanks for the thought either way.
@@TeamPandory USB 1.0 was almost enough to make you not want anything to do with USB. I know it made me feel this way back in the day. Thankfully it didn't take too long for 1.1 to appear. Speaking of which, I wonder if Windows 10/11 support USB 1.1 devices. Then again, where one would even find such. NVM. Have a nice day.
Does Bluetooth not work with batercera because Linux doesn't like on board Bluetooth?
I can't get any controllers to work with it.
Windows is fine.
'This product is currently out of stock and unavailable'. A common message in the good old U of K when it comes to GEEKOM.
And from what another reviewer has recently stated, they seem not to like completely honest reviews, with constructive criticism, delaying some reviewers until the fan boys have reaped praise. Not a good look for them.
As far as the hardware is concerned though, not too bad at all all things considered.
Apparently there's a shipment due in the next few days.
Unsure about the whole criticism thing, but it's pretty obvious noone wants to have any crits on their products, especially when they're a smaller company.
Saying that we've not pulled anything and put up the video without any vetting or input from them... It's a good machine, very solid, but the fan is a little loud.
Got one about a month ago, using it for office / small business and video recording. Performance is impressive, quick start, great at multitasking. The only minus is the fan noise, makes audio recording difficult. Other than that, no regrets.
Do you think this could handle console streaming? Nothing fancy: A camera, the game (captured from a PS4) and some alerts. Looking out for cheap options for my younger brother who's into that world.
It should be okay, but if you're using one for video it may be better to get a 6000 series of Ryzen or higher.
They have av1, faster memory, and will generally be better for that.
We have a video in the works now that should help you out. Should be up by tomorrow 😅
@@TeamPandory My parents don't wanna buy my little brother a "full-fledged" PC yet so I turned my eyes into the Mini PCs to try to support his hobby/desire. This A5 currently sits at $379 which I can afford so that's why I'm asking. Thanks for your reply!
@@estebangardila yeah, I got it. 👍
Hi, your review is really helpful 👍. By the way there is another geekom a5 model with r7 5825u, do you know which one is better? Especially in heat to performance part, because i live in tropical country. Thanks
If you live in a hot country, I'd advise getting a computer that has two fans.
We did a roundup of cheap mini pc units for the Amazon sale recently. That should give you a nice selection to choose from
@@TeamPandory I think i will check out your budget recommendation first and pick one with the u series processor because the low tdp it has, thanks👍
I got one of these with one of those KinHank 3 TB hard drives but I can not get anything, including NES games to play smoothly. Any ideas what could be happenings?
@@johnhanes3450 if it's a batocera usb drive, I'd suggest trying another usb port.
@@TeamPandory it is retrobat and launchbox.
Can this mini pc increase gpu memory in bios ? To 2gb or higher?
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Does it come pre-installed with a virus too steal your passwords and credit card info like Acemagic's mini pc's?
No. No malware / viri on this machine.
PELADN HA-4 In Dual channel ram vs nucbox M6 Which one has better performance
It should be the Peladn HA-4 (7735HS, correct?), but we don't have one in to fully check.
@TeamPandory ok but You should definitely make a review on the PELADN HA-4 7735HS
Check our video here for help regarding 7735HS vs 6600H Mini PCs. It should clear things up a bit for you. ruclips.net/video/2m2vPk1kSYM/видео.html
Sir, I wanna to ask, how do I enter the BIOS, what do I have to press, sir? Thanks
Easiest way on most of these computers, is to go into the search bar at the bottom of Windows, then type in startup, then click on ADVANCED STARTUP OPTIONS, then click the option of *restart now* under "advanced startup" . Soon as it restarts, navigate the menu to find the one that states "enter UEFI settings" or something like that.
Hope that helps 🙂
hello i have a question do u think minecraft bedrock will run on this?
Yeah, it'll run.
@@TeamPandory ty
What I get more performance if I get the PELADN HA-4 Minicomputer, AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS It is single channel ram 16GB DDR5 512GB NVME Instead of the GMKtec M6 Mini PC AMD R5 660OH 6-core 12-thread
Computer 16GB DDR5 512GB PCle 3.0 SSD WiFi6 BT5.2
Which one would give me the best possible FPS.😁
@@silverinesilver they might perform around the same until you get dual ddr5 in the peladn. Tbh the peladn might even be worse.
Putting the RAM in single channel mode will give around 60-70% it's true potential.
But on the website it said 5660mhz And when I checked on youtube The difference was only by like 2 FPS
@@silverinesilver ruclips.net/video/gPwotg5HUag/видео.htmlfeature=shared&t=395
Does the PELADN HA-4 Have two slots
@@silverinesilver It does, but only one DDR5 slot is being used, it seems
Would this run almost the exact same GMKtec M5 Plus Ryzen 7 5825U Mini PC Windows 11
Pro DDR4 16GB 512GB Nvme SSD WIFI6 BT5.2
Desktop MINI PC
@@serenityep2 This is specced slightly higher than the (newer) M5. The M5 uses a very low power AMD chip, this one in the geekom A5 is clocked higher.
The 5825U should perform similar to the 5700U.
We've done gametests with the 5700U and the 5800H, and the 5800H is a step higher.
The 5800H is faster.
The 5825U is similar to the 5700U, we've made gametests of both 5700U and 5800H so you can compare.
But will I still be able to run all of those games That you played in the video at least 30FPS
@@serenityep2 Yeah, should be okay.
If you do want to play games though, I'd say stretch to the M6 or the M7. There's a nice bump in performance with the GPU with those systems.
@TeamPandory Woah that was a very Fast Response alr
If I got the k2 And I run it in nfs heat And if I got the m6 And I run it in nfs heat Which one What give me the most fps?
The K2 has the faster chip and should get more fps.
But the case is flawed due to the memory bit having active cooling (the M6 has a fan).
This can cause thermal throttling in the K2, so it's advised to get the revision (K5 which we reviewed)
Can it handle photoshop well?
Yes. Photoshop runs well.
I would call $450 cheap also if I was handed a free one.
Check the Geekom HP link, currently $399, use the coupon, $20 off. $379.
For what it is, the price is quite reasonable, especially once comparing to the competition.
I wish I could afford it
$399 @Amazon
when u buy a mini pc all the games are already install and all u have to do is plug in and play
? No. It comes only with the Operating system installed. The games we added ourselves to see how well they play.
Thanks
Thanks for dota😂❤
At 600$ Minisforum mini PC with arc 730M gpu IS way BETTER THAN THIS it has a rtx 4050 laptop level GPU
Yeah.. but thats unfair.. ARC A730m is VGA while Radeon Vega 8 is integrated. And btw, can you get 32gb RAM and 512 GB SSD sata m.2/nvme with that $600..? Bcuz this mini pc only cost you $399 with all that, minus VGA.
@@CptDuck what vga?
@@Akakakakak1-h5r VGA is what you called for external gpu back then..
@@CptDuck yes its unfair cuz of the price difference i agree
Be careful of the often malicious software hidden on some of these cheap chinese devices.
As they say, "One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel"- And if that were the case, you should be applying that to every computer ever manufactured. The computers in the 90s were atrocious.
While we should be wary, this malware practice was found on a computer by a different manufacturer. It's a shame others are tarnished.
This has been a thing for years, not a first occurrence. Always wipe and re-install, doesn't matter what the brand is or where it's from.
Cheap !!!!!,
You are taking the piss 😂
Can it ruin roblox😢😢😢
According to Roblox hardware requirements, it should run fine - But I'd definitely recommend getting something a little more powerful for any gaming.
GMKtec M7 or K8 plus (that we recently reviewed) will be able to run this, and much more.
At what point did the children of today decide to start pronouncing "VESA" as "VAYSSA"? It's been pronounced like VISA since the 90s. Is this some kind of new millennial and Gen Z thing?