Nets are not here to tank.. we need to respect that as a franchise.. tanking is a losers mentality.. this coaching staff is building good habits.. Let’s go Nets 😎
If you don't want the nets to tank what should they do ? There not going to the finals with this roster might not even make the playoffs what do you suggest?
100 agree that tanking is a losers mentality and would be bad for team long term. Marks is great at finding talent, so with four 1st rounders in a loaded draft we will do well. We have a lot of options. OpSuper stars want to be traded here, we have a good squad, and we have draft picks. Dream scenario!!
Lets see how this current team fairs against Boston and Knicks. If they do win 1 out of 2 in the next 12 days against those teams, I am content to go all the way to the playoff this year, and if they lay eggs, I feel the following odds are most likely reality. Nets will be at best 5 through 8 or not be in the playoffs at all in the next 2 to 3 years, unless Cam T takes a massive jump in the next 2 to 3 years if we Nets him. Are you content with those odds?
I’m still confused as to why everyone thought we would be worse than last year. No disrespect to Mikal. But Mikal is not a #1 option, he’s not an all star. We’re finding out that he may have been inhibiting others on this team by trying to make him the 1st option. And now we have a real head coach. 1st since Kenny Atkinson.
I like Jordi. Excellent resume and off to a decent start. It's very early but it depend on what are your expectation of him is what should determine his grade. That should come down the road. How does after 30 games or so sound?
The last thing we need is too keep trading players for the Nets it should be tiring and played out, maybe 1 or 2 trades but as far as trading the majority of the team is ridiculous. Lets keep what we have and build upon it. And honestly this team needs more positivity this season then the negative. As fans we need to rally behind our team that's the only way we build a winning and respectful culture moving forward! Go Nets!
They didn’t trade for their own draft picks back from Houston for no reason. They’re just auditioning their players so that they can increase their trade value before the trade deadline and go into full tank mode.
The biggest concern is how bad the East has been, especially with some of the injuries to key players (Joel, Paolo, Barnes). Those are three teams that you normally would not have to worry about as far as contention for top 4 picks. The devil's advocate for "building habits" argument is...the key player to this team playing the way it has is Dennis Schroeder. What the Nets are showing right now is fool's gold, because in order to really continue "building habits" requires them to pay a 32 year old Dennis Schroeder in the off-season because this team, without him, is really without it's rudder. And if your team takes a dump without a Dennis Schroeder...then you have zero business not wanting to be picking as high as you can in the draft.
I enjoy every Nets win, but it feels strange. Going into the season I was expecting to torture myself by watching Cooper Flagg highlights as the Nets losses added up. Now I'm just confused. 😕
Playing hard will win you 30 games but guys keep in mind when you don’t cheat the game good things happens last year Atl won 40 games and still got the number one seed . Just relax and enjoy let the chips fall where they fall
I think Jordi was a great hire, and he is starting to help build a culture, which is great. We also need talent though, and is important to tank this year, to hopefully end up with a top pick in the 2025 draft.
We will see how competitive the Nets are in the next 2 games. I have been saying all along that with the current roster, they will not have the worst record in the league and perhaps not in the bottom 5. They are well coached and have enough talent to win games. Now, if they trade some of the vets … that will be a different story.
Win and draft the best guy possible..Number 1 picks don’t guarantee success… example was Ayton and Bagley over Luka and SGA… or Anthony Bennett over Giannis .. build a winning culture that is going to create a positive environment for players to grow..
Take the over on fan duel!! It was at 20 wins last week. Adam being bullish has paid major dividends. Overall love the vibes, we should start tanking once they start trading the veterans away. Cam J and dfs both need to gather assets for us...will help ensure we lose
What do you think about kings trading Trey Lyes for Cam Johnson and maybe a future pick swap that nets get the better pick. In like 2031 maybe? Or earlier idk just throwing stuff out there.
Honestly I hope the Tank fails miserably. Imagine how good they would be if they trade it for a 7 foot center to either play next to Claxton or come off the bench against big teams to match up Dennis S at the 1 Cam T. 2 Gannis 3 Claxton 4 7 footer 5 Bench Wilson Clowney Z Williams Next year we could have Jimmy Butler to 3 Giannis at the 4 Claxton at 5 with Cam T. And Dennis S. In the front court.
@@BeyondTheNetsPod OK that’s a fair jab at me but guess what next year he’s a free agent you have to give up nothing not even any pics and you telling me he won’t be good two or three option? You can’t just have 23 year olds on the whole roster you need some veteran leader ship some generals
@@shaolin6150 I like the Sharp I would keep him too, but he is only 69. We need some physical presence. We don’t even have a 7 footer on the team at all.
Enough with this tank garbage, why is this podcast so obsessed with tanking?! even if your the worst team in the NBA you can pick fifth there's no guarantee that your perceived number one pick will even be good. lets just keep on wining!!
So what was the purpose of trading for Nets own draft pick for this year again? -- Is Marks contented for the pick to land 1 through 20? I mean, his strategy has always been looking for good find in the draft and top pick has always not been that important to him. It makes sense that he wants to just high pick player that fit his puzzle. But still, what is the purpose for trading for our pick back if this was the case? Pivot options?
I hope we’re bad enough to get someone like Malauch in the draft. We need a Young, big man!!! I love Giannis, but I don’t want to trade ALL OUR FIRST ROUND PICKS AGAIN!!!! That hasn’t worked ONCE!!!!
Who roots for losses? Or complain about wins? Expectations aside...fans should be proud of our effort. Hate how "better than expected" is a concern. Nonsense.
Sean Marks needs to WAKE UP!? 😮 As fun as it is to see Brooklyn win some early games and it's been greater seeing Coach Jordi build and develop a program that's helped the young guys take leaps Brooklyn can't lose sight of their main GOALS... Brooklyn has TWO lottery picks potentially for one of the most historic upcoming drafts and Marks needs to trade these vets pronto! The fact Dennis Schroder emphatically said this team doesn't want to lose games and wants to make the PLAYOFFS should have Marks ready to swing deals and collect even more draft assets while perfectly positioning Brooklyn to draft a top prospect next summer 🙏 😎... But Marks needs to do some business soon!
@luisq125 and look at who was drafted before kawhi leonard in his draft class....not all projected top picks always pan out in the nba OJ mayo was ranked high so yea
This roster wont get far in the playoffs if they were to make the playoffs this is a first rd K.O ? Unless you make blockbuster trades. I dont want them to tank but if its best for the team do it!!!
The Nets are in the worst spot you can be in mediocrity. Too good to build through the draft but not good enough to contend in any meaningful way. If you are not going full tank why hell did you trade bridges and help the Knicks? Why hand over an extra pick to Houston to get you own picks back? Complete waste if they end making the playin tournament. Marks better do something by the trade deadline if this team is looking like a middle of the road playin.
Its funny as an outsider seeing this tank culture in America... I thought you guys pride yourselves in striving to be the best?😂 You would lose all the respect from the fan base if youre losing on purpose in the rest of the world
Can't believe that Marks won't be fielding calls for C.Johnson and Schroeder.ASAP!!!!!!! You don't trade to get back your own pick unless you LOSE!!!!!!!!! and race to the bottom 3!!! This is totally FOOLS GOLD!!! TANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
Gonna regret not tanking when players like Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey are in the draft this year. Very dumb year to be mediocre. Trade the good players and tank like hell.
Claxton needs to be traded. He still cant make free throws or defend a big. What is his super power? He is not a future all star. Trade him now while his stock is high.
This team is playing like I expected last year teams to play.
The inability to tank is usually the sign of a great coaching staff. Full steam ahead Jordi
Scheduling. Dennis kills the Grizzlies no matter the team he's on
Miss you guys! The nets somehow look better right now than last year
Nets are not here to tank.. we need to respect that as a franchise.. tanking is a losers mentality.. this coaching staff is building good habits.. Let’s go Nets 😎
If they wasn't tanking then why trade for our picks
If you don't want the nets to tank what should they do ? There not going to the finals with this roster might not even make the playoffs what do you suggest?
100 agree that tanking is a losers mentality and would be bad for team long term. Marks is great at finding talent, so with four 1st rounders in a loaded draft we will do well. We have a lot of options. OpSuper stars want to be traded here, we have a good squad, and we have draft picks. Dream scenario!!
@@hollaback0690we traded for stars and just blew up in our face now we getting Greek freak and who else
Lets see how this current team fairs against Boston and Knicks. If they do win 1 out of 2 in the next 12 days against those teams, I am content to go all the way to the playoff this year, and if they lay eggs, I feel the following odds are most likely reality. Nets will be at best 5 through 8 or not be in the playoffs at all in the next 2 to 3 years, unless Cam T takes a massive jump in the next 2 to 3 years if we Nets him. Are you content with those odds?
Sean Marks doesn’t even allow the word tank in his front office lol
The fact that a team would purposefully tank is crazy to me. Never would be down for that
I’m still confused as to why everyone thought we would be worse than last year. No disrespect to Mikal. But Mikal is not a #1 option, he’s not an all star. We’re finding out that he may have been inhibiting others on this team by trying to make him the 1st option. And now we have a real head coach. 1st since Kenny Atkinson.
I like Jordi. Excellent resume and off to a decent start. It's very early but it depend on what are your expectation of him is what should determine his grade. That should come down the road. How does after 30 games or so sound?
Funny thing is that people were constantly saying Kenny needs to be fired back then.
The nature of casual fans and social media I guess
You dont have to tank. Build culture, develop and use draft picks as trade assets.
Let’s just tank
The last thing we need is too keep trading players for the Nets it should be tiring and played out, maybe 1 or 2 trades but as far as trading the majority of the team is ridiculous. Lets keep what we have and build upon it. And honestly this team needs more positivity this season then the negative. As fans we need to rally behind our team that's the only way we build a winning and respectful culture moving forward! Go Nets!
They didn’t trade for their own draft picks back from Houston for no reason. They’re just auditioning their players so that they can increase their trade value before the trade deadline and go into full tank mode.
Also top lottery picks doesn't mean shit if the team is shit. Talent + culture is a better chance for success.
Nikola Jokić - 41st pick
Giannis Antetokounmpo - 15th pick
Kawhi Leonard - 15th pick
Jimmy Butler - 30th pick
Draymond Green - 35th pick
Khris Middleton - 39th pick
Rudy Gobert - 27th pick
Pascal Siakam - 27th pick
Bam Adebayo - 14th pick
Donovan Mitchell - 13th pick
Nets dont need Cooper. Rookies dont impact winning
The biggest concern is how bad the East has been, especially with some of the injuries to key players (Joel, Paolo, Barnes). Those are three teams that you normally would not have to worry about as far as contention for top 4 picks. The devil's advocate for "building habits" argument is...the key player to this team playing the way it has is Dennis Schroeder. What the Nets are showing right now is fool's gold, because in order to really continue "building habits" requires them to pay a 32 year old Dennis Schroeder in the off-season because this team, without him, is really without it's rudder.
And if your team takes a dump without a Dennis Schroeder...then you have zero business not wanting to be picking as high as you can in the draft.
I enjoy every Nets win, but it feels strange.
Going into the season I was expecting to torture myself by watching Cooper Flagg highlights as the Nets losses added up. Now I'm just confused. 😕
Aiming to getting swept in the first round is stupid.
Playing hard will win you 30 games but guys keep in mind when you don’t cheat the game good things happens last year Atl won 40 games and still got the number one seed . Just relax and enjoy let the chips fall where they fall
I think Jordi was a great hire, and he is starting to help build a culture, which is great. We also need talent though, and is important to tank this year, to hopefully end up with a top pick in the 2025 draft.
We will see how competitive the Nets are in the next 2 games. I have been saying all along that with the current roster, they will not have the worst record in the league and perhaps not in the bottom 5. They are well coached and have enough talent to win games. Now, if they trade some of the vets … that will be a different story.
Theres still plenty of time to tank only six games into the season
AGREE it's going to happen BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
8 💀💀 can u not count no wonder u want us to tank
Crazy thing is that Nets could easily be 6 and 2
Win and draft the best guy possible..Number 1 picks don’t guarantee success… example was Ayton and Bagley over Luka and SGA… or Anthony Bennett over Giannis .. build a winning culture that is going to create a positive environment for players to grow..
Love these comments. I agree.
Take the over on fan duel!! It was at 20 wins last week. Adam being bullish has paid major dividends.
Overall love the vibes, we should start tanking once they start trading the veterans away. Cam J and dfs both need to gather assets for us...will help ensure we lose
What do you think about kings trading Trey Lyes for Cam Johnson and maybe a future pick swap that nets get the better pick. In like 2031 maybe? Or earlier idk just throwing stuff out there.
Honestly I hope the Tank fails miserably.
Imagine how good they would be if they trade it for a 7 foot center to either play next to Claxton or come off the bench against big teams to match up
Dennis S at the 1
Cam T. 2
Gannis 3
Claxton 4
7 footer 5
Bench Wilson Clowney Z Williams
Next year we could have Jimmy Butler to 3 Giannis at the 4 Claxton at 5 with Cam T. And Dennis S. In the front court.
Why would you want a 35 year old Butler on a young Nets squad? Glad you’re not the GM
let's see where sharpe is when he gets off of injury. he's strong too.
@@BeyondTheNetsPod OK that’s a fair jab at me but guess what next year he’s a free agent you have to give up nothing not even any pics and you telling me he won’t be good two or three option?
You can’t just have 23 year olds on the whole roster you need some veteran leader ship some generals
@@shaolin6150 I like the Sharp I would keep him too, but he is only 69. We need some physical presence. We don’t even have a 7 footer on the team at all.
You realize we’ll be left with no good players and assets after trading for Giannis right?
Why would you want to tank when they also have the Knicks first rounder?
Enough with this tank garbage, why is this podcast so obsessed with tanking?! even if your the worst team in the NBA you can pick fifth there's no guarantee that your perceived number one pick will even be good. lets just keep on wining!!
Yes
They seem to think it’s the NFL where your guaranteed a draft position based off of your record…
So what was the purpose of trading for Nets own draft pick for this year again? -- Is Marks contented for the pick to land 1 through 20? I mean, his strategy has always been looking for good find in the draft and top pick has always not been that important to him. It makes sense that he wants to just high pick player that fit his puzzle. But still, what is the purpose for trading for our pick back if this was the case? Pivot options?
It would only take an injury to CT and tank will be more than alive or Marks would only have to trade Schroder and the tank will be a safe bet.
I would love to see what Milwaukees asking price is the nets should try to win it all now make monster trades i want Bobby Portis as add on
He is not a reliable player.
I hope we’re bad enough to get someone like Malauch in the draft. We need a Young, big man!!! I love Giannis, but I don’t want to trade ALL OUR FIRST ROUND PICKS AGAIN!!!! That hasn’t worked ONCE!!!!
Who roots for losses? Or complain about wins? Expectations aside...fans should be proud of our effort. Hate how "better than expected" is a concern. Nonsense.
Sean Marks needs to WAKE UP!? 😮
As fun as it is to see Brooklyn win some early games and it's been greater seeing Coach Jordi build and develop a program that's helped the young guys take leaps Brooklyn can't lose sight of their main GOALS...
Brooklyn has TWO lottery picks potentially for one of the most historic upcoming drafts and Marks needs to trade these vets pronto!
The fact Dennis Schroder emphatically said this team doesn't want to lose games and wants to make the PLAYOFFS should have Marks ready to swing deals and collect even more draft assets while perfectly positioning Brooklyn to draft a top prospect next summer 🙏 😎...
But Marks needs to do some business soon!
SGA was drafted 13 and Paul George was drafted 10 … you can find players in the draft that can be stars
@@luisq125 Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey will be long gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TANK NOW!
@ they said that about John Wall and Demarcus Cousins and turns out Paul George who was drafted 10 in that draft was the best player
@luisq125 and look at who was drafted before kawhi leonard in his draft class....not all projected top picks always pan out in the nba OJ mayo was ranked high so yea
Tank for what? Cooper Flagg? Lol. Yeah ok.
Doug been saying for months we have no chance of being good lol I’ve been saying it playing hard will win you 30 games
that draft is not guranteed you want the team to play hard and not tank so what if they tank and donnt get flagg who wins and was it worth it to TANK?
Why would they tank when they have a legit potential Superstar that they can build around in Cam Thomas?
Give Dennis a new contract soon 🔜 🎉2 years 40 Mio
Don't worry Nets fans...LOTS OF LOSSES COMING!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure that management is having a meeting NOW to make sure they EMBRACE the TANK!!!!!!!!!
I'm sure they aren't. We'll see.
Tanking for what? Players like Wemby emerge once every 10 years, everyone else is unknown to solve.
When you got a player like Cooper and Ace you do what you have to. Suck as much as you can. Its only one year. Look at OKC and the Spurs with Wemby.
Lol,this comment section is funny😂
This roster wont get far in the playoffs if they were to make the playoffs this is a first rd K.O ? Unless you make blockbuster trades. I dont want them to tank but if its best for the team do it!!!
They played the grizzlies and won by the skin of their teeth so let’s just wait and see how the match up goes against the Celtics
Cam and Dennis will soon be on the IR!!!!!!! Management can deal with the fine!!!
You trade players that are not longterm players!!! TANK YOU!!! Bucks will still finish well over 500...that pick is crappy/you'll see
Trade the Vets! When they finally have a chance for a Top 5 pick there's zero point to keep this roster intact
Zaire Williams fell off and cam Thomas having brick problems
And we still won. Sign of a good team
@@hollaback0690 Yep!
the bucks can give us the 5th pick
The Nets are in the worst spot you can be in mediocrity. Too good to build through the draft but not good enough to contend in any meaningful way. If you are not going full tank why hell did you trade bridges and help the Knicks? Why hand over an extra pick to Houston to get you own picks back? Complete waste if they end making the playin tournament.
Marks better do something by the trade deadline if this team is looking like a middle of the road playin.
Its funny as an outsider seeing this tank culture in America... I thought you guys pride yourselves in striving to be the best?😂 You would lose all the respect from the fan base if youre losing on purpose in the rest of the world
Okay why are we letting Sean Marks doing all the moves; he sucks at them,
They need to trade SIMMIONS n can
M johnson
*we're one or 2 pieces away from playoff contention, we need a scorer and a true big. John Wall??? Lance??? Demarcus?? Tacko???*
If u want us to tank I don’t like u
Can't believe that Marks won't be fielding calls for C.Johnson and Schroeder.ASAP!!!!!!! You don't trade to get back your own pick unless you LOSE!!!!!!!!! and race to the bottom 3!!! This is totally FOOLS GOLD!!!
TANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!
Have you considered that he don't plan on moving Cam Johnson?
Gonna regret not tanking when players like Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey are in the draft this year. Very dumb year to be mediocre. Trade the good players and tank like hell.
Now you know Marks isn't going to do that. That's just wishful thinking.....on your part.
Apart from the NBA is just boring to watch and with all the woke bullshit that comes with it and now tanking to get better picks. Not watching.
Claxton needs to be traded. He still cant make free throws or defend a big. What is his super power? He is not a future all star. Trade him now while his stock is high.
He can't be traded until december - january