Cart Top Fixture Plate Machining Success
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- After the first attempt at this job I realized I had a problem with the rigid tapping cycle on the Flex CNC. The software engineers quickly jumped in the controller and made the necessary adjustments needed to correct this issue. I got to work on the second cart top and we now have a completed and successful part that is good to go!
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Man i love this stuff. Ive always done manual machining (at home). I just was given a new job position at work. Its mostly cnc with an 3 axis mill. Im 46, your making the same transition im faced with. Nice to see im not alone in learning this stuff! Keep it coming Adam!
Learning curve feels mighty vertical at times.
Always a pleasure to watch your work and your leaning. Well done.
I really can’t wait to watch you machine some massive plate that beast of a machine was made for
the fact that you share your CNC entry , makes you interesting for a whole bunch of new viewers. but also, it proofs you are up for changes and not always stick with the same stuff ! and viewers want different stuff, i think it sometimes doesnt even matter what, because they watch the videos because of you
I have a small hobby machine shop without cnc machines, and neither do I have plans to start with cnc. To me, this channel lost a lot of it’s attraction. Now I just have a quick look, and see if it is manual work or cnc, and decide what to do. I don’t want to spend hours watching a machinist pointing at a screen or to watch an invisible drill through a small dripping window, while there are so many other creators doing stuff within my field of interest…
I live in the northeast. Five years ago I had a mini split system installed on the house. A single outdoor unit running 4 heads. It's the best investment i ever did. I sized the outdoor unit larger than needed for 2 reasons. 1. It doesn't work as hard as a smaller unit. 2. There's space for another head if I ever wanted another. To be honest, this past winter we never turned our heating system on. The mini split kept the house comfortable. Its not as expensive as the gas bill to heat and cool the house. You could try some insulation on the ceiling. Even a drop or false ceiling would give you a big air gap separation that would help out.
There's always going to be "haters", but I'm sure you'r folks taught you the same thing as mine: empty barrels make the biggest noise. I love the manual machining, because the tolerances you achieve with grand old machines, and the skill it takes to make things work like they're on a paper, without any real computer to help with it (dro doesn't count). I also do understand that the manual machining is a vanishing skill, since cnc's can do it all and doesn't take hours away from the worker. So really, I'll tip you my fictional hat for taking the step to go outside your current skill level and showing us that things can be learned.
it is still important to know the manual maching. You need to know what the computer will do in every operation. For example if you know what happens in a peck drilling operation you then know how to program the computer to do the same.
I am not a machinist, but I've always been fascinated with the process.I truly love watching your videos and also your camping and cooking. I just wanted to let you know that thank you for taking the time to share what you do for the viewers.
it amazes me that CNC machines can do rigid tapping at all! the amount of precision and accuracy to reliably tap dozens and dozens of holes repeatedly is astonishing.
It's pretty easy to see your growing confidence with both the machines and the CNC processes. Rock On, man! Something people tend to forget is that starting way back in the Old Days, a village blacksmith was usually the most technically sharp person in town. Machinists, same way. CNC is just the latest way for the smart guys to make stuff better and faster, and make a living doing it.
I totally get the curtain lasers and I understand why the laser is there for the outside, but that one would annoy me to no limit 😊 I interned at an old machine shop that had an open bed mill that was about the same size work area of the flex and I remember seeing the machinist standing on the bed while it was running spray chips off during some big face milling ops. It was an old mill, it was slow. They told me he had plenty of time to get out of the way but it scared me to death
I would be trying to defeat it, if you need that level of safety....You should not be operating or even in the shop. "Only YOU can keep yourself safe" (not some regulation or mandated safety measures) Getter Done.
Nothing beats an evening in the shop with Abom79!
Don't worry about those others. You have to keep moving forward.
It's good to see actual production with the CNC machines. It's interesting and the mix between old and new is fine by me. I think it best to let the creators create what they want without hassling them about content.
Great video. And that music never gets old.
maybe put some rain-x on the inside of that viewing window
Nice work Adam. I am starting to really enjoy your CNC stuff. I was disappointed when you first started it but the I too got into CNC machining and find it helpful. Don't listen to the complainers it's your channel!
Thanks 👍
These videos are awesome. I’ll never get to work on a cnc set up, but just can’t get enough. Love the format and look forward to the next one.
Glad for you,Adam and for your ability to deal with such a complex situations.Glad too for the outside help that you are getting and hope it will be kept that way.Thank you.
When you're a master manual machinist, tool maker, and you add CNC, look out! Those helical hole routines were quick and surprised me! Keep challenging yourself and killing it 💪
Thanks Adam, great to see you learning and getting better and better. I call the manual machines Analogs! I like to see how you actually tie stuff down. Helps me think. Appreciate the effort it takes to put these videos together. Thank you
I will never forget drawing a 1/2'"-13 machine bolt in the drafting segment of my shop class in sixth grade. CAD is an amazing technology, but graphite on vellum is still a very satisfying way to work.
So glad to see you learning! This gives me hope for America. Love the flag! Keep up the great work and keep learning.
Personally I enjoy the variety on this channel! The combination of old and new machines and technology is great. Keep up the great content Adam!
I like all of it, manual, cnc, grilling, and the travels. I'm actually looking forward to when you take that Kubota and start working on your new property.
Cool video. It is great to see how the FlexCNC operates. I could see this machine complementing alot of job shops for the bigger projects. Also, I agree with you on Kevin's Fusion360 services, you cannot find a better guy that knows his business.
I always felt really good after making a program and using it to machine parts and it turned out perfectly so just enjoy what you are doing and congratulations on your CNC journey
You are a top-notch machinist Adam a man that takes pride in this work takes pride in himself gas like you are a dying breed
Adam, your mix of manual vs CNC is just fine! Actually I prefer more CNC as your skill level improves. I also know there's plenty of manual work coming our way, but in the meantime, CNC practice makes perfect and those machines need to earn their keep. Thanks for bringing us along on your journey. Keep up the good work!
You could put solar panels on the roof. It will block the sun from the roof. Keep it slightly cooler. And produce power. To run the AC. Connect to a grid tie inverter to power the AC. With enough the AC will be free. Used solar panels from solar farms are cheap. Another thing would be to put 1" foam(or thicker) insulation in the ceiling. Or hang mylar blankets into ceiling to trap the hot air up there. And the aluminized plastic will reflect the ir heat. Backup, air is a good insulation, if it's trapped! It would be the cheapest option. And can be used with
The insulation. One ac could probably keep cool . The insulation in these buildings are not the best, one step above a car insulation. However $1500 in solar can run at least one ac for free
I'm sure there are limits as to what Adam can do to the outside of the building/roof. The inside may be more lenient, but you can only do so much if you don't own it.
I love how the "Big Ass Fan" is actually marketed as "Big Ass Fans".
Adam I enjoy learning how things are built you are a natural teacher with great skills thank you for sharing all that you do
I appreciate that!
I'm taking my sky lights out because its just a laser beam coming in there with them. I only have one mini-split in my shop and it does ok this time of year unless you open the big door to move something in or out then it never catches back up
Thanks Adam, I have received some great 👍 ideas.
Wow if you ever needed to see exactly why you need those curtains, that came at Adam at a right pace. 16:04
Good job Adam!
Adam, all you need for that window with the coolant ( for filming purposes...) is a magnet aquarium cleaner. It works like a squeegee. one piece inside the other outside... Magnet holds them fast thru the window... Works like a charm!! a simple swipe up or down will clear that coolant quick and easy! always stays put and is ready to use anytime!
Be careful of magnets, that's how it knows the door is closed. AvE actually put a porthole-wheel in his. (spins with air to sling the shmoo off.)
love this channel! Abom is the man!
You are doing a great Job. Stay safe and healthy.
I like that you talk. Your voice is the reason I'm watching this. You're good at narrating.
OMG, talking is all he does anymore!!!
Adam, love your videos makes my Aussie Saturday arvo. Quick tip if I may, when counting seconds use a word after one,
One one thousand, two one thousand.
One Mississippi two Mississippi
One hippopotamus two hippopotamus.
You will be surprised how accurate it is to an actual second, try it against a stopwatch.
I think those 1st holes were being cut in less than 2 seconds.
Cheers from down under 👍👍🍻🍻🇦🇺🇦🇺
G'day Simon, either way, better than watching fish swim around in a tank of water. 😅
It looks like a modern replacement for an old fashioned planer.
thank you Adam
I think you are striking a nice balance between traditional machining and CNC. Keep up the good work!
You mentioned that there is a delay between the time you crossed the safety beam and it shuts off the machine. I was wondering if you could wire in a flashing light or a buzzer that warns you that you are crossing the barrier so you know to back out?
I just enjoy watchin the videos... just keep putting out stuff to watch, and I'll do what I can to peruse it.
As a mechanical engineer I love your variety of videos. I personally only ever deal with CNC with 3d printers, but I like to understand what the machinst goes through when I turn over models and prints to them to cut parts. Your manual machining and repair videos are also great for when I have to get in the shop myself to modify prototypes. I get to learn how a real machinist would do the things I stumble and fumble through! Keep it up!
I really enjoy your journey in CNC. don't let the guys insisting on manual machining get you down. this is the world we live in. CNC is a part of our lives. We accept it or get out of the way.
Amen brother.
There's plenty of work for manual machinists too, and there always will be. In fact, as the corporate world moves away from manual and goes fully robotic, that opens up more opportunity for smaller job shops that can do work that isn't worth the setup time for the big guys. Taco Bell and McDonald's did not run small and gourmet restaurants out of business.
thanks Abom! u knw how the youtube thing goes.... as long as they're watching, who cares what they have to say?!! 👍
Very cool stuff my friend!
Good content. Spend some time doing the one-off stuff using conversational programming. I find it amazing that you can write short programs to do operations without using CAD or CAM and really out perform manual operations with relatively little effort.
Been watching for years! Love the videos, CNC or or not!
One of those magnetic fish tank glass cleaners would work to periodically wipe the inside of the door window.
Thanks for sharing
Always enjoy watching. Get you a Big Ass DeHumidifier and set it in the corner. That will take a load off that AC.
It's a good point about humidity, especially something like flood coolant going. But dehumidifiers extract moisture from the air at the cost of raising its temperature. That's great for a variety of applications, like clammy basements in northern US summers or on the Gulf Coast between A/C season and heating season. But on the Gulf Coast in July, it's A/C season: there's too high a temperature to start with.
I suggest running an A/C or dehumidifier, but not both at the same time. If you're running both, you're adding heat to a room with the dehumidifier, then asking the A/C to pull it out of the building. This inefficient "double handling" of the heat and moisture ultimately will cost you on your electric bill. Another subtlety is that modern A/Cs evaporatively cool their own compressor coils with their own condensate, helping efficiency. Effectively, you're cooling the indoors by making the outdoors more muggy. With a dehumidifier, that efficiency opportunity literally goes down the drain as condensate.
Fans in all cases can be helpful for whittling down energy usage. In warm seasons, you point them at you, helping people evaporatively cool off. In cold seasons, in a high-ceilinged room like this one, you point them elsewhere to mix the room's air instead of letting the warmest air rise out of reach.
Holy snap, making huge strides there. Fixtures are where it's at. Maybe you could design a new set of bars that span four bed rails. I like a challenge. My first fixture plate had 780 x M6 threaded holes that were done using Fusion360 and their single point helical strategy. So pucker factor is up there. Clearance for that tool's flute dia and the 5mm holes was 0.1mm.
G'day Adam. Like watching the CNC moving about, like a choreographed dance 💃 😅😅😅.
The speed & accuracy in such a short time is unbelievable.
Great job well done 👏 ✔️ 👍🏻
I wish back in my manual tool and die maker days we would have had some CNC machines. Things could have been made faster but most of the time when I was building a die it would be a one off as I call them.
You build it. Test it. Deliver it. Set it up for the buyer if they wanted to put it to work.
Move on to the next one. They were never the same.
The Flex Arm plate you did in this episode would have taken me a lot longer doing it manually and I would have gone nuts if I had to make a 100 of them. Doing the same thing day in and day out until finally get 100 finished.
Thanks for sharing your experience with learning CNC.
Some ship's bridge windows have round spinning window segments that throw the water off by centrifugal force in stormy weather. Might work for flood coolant mist clearing. Camera behind a 6 in. spinning disc.
Another amazing RUclips channel, in my opinion, did this same thing with his cnc machine, the AvE channel.
Video - spinning viewport, dewclaw helps out. It worked wonders in my opinion with recording and doing what you referenced in your comment. I do hope he sees this!
There are lots of wipers and spinners and air blades available, but they don't help for the splashing around at the tool that obscures seeing the actual machining. If there isn't coolant all over the cutting tool and your material, it isn't doing any good.
@kindablue1959 I agreed with the comment. However, I don't think blocking the tools method of cooling of the working parts was the focus in my reply. The viewing thru the lense of a camera for the audience on how the tool achieves the task is the topic. That way, Adam can set up a go pro behind a clean view into the working cnc doing its task. 27:43 Adam has to clean the window for us to have a clear view into the tooling doing it's tasks.
@@jacobbudden381 Yeah, well that's still about as interesting as watching a car go through a car wash. I much prefer seeing actual chips forming, especially the big 1" wide curls coming off the shaper. YMMV.
@@kindablue1959 I also agree with that comment, The great enjoyments of this channel is how vast machining can be, as well as creating products to be recorded for our viewing enjoyment. I've never worked around this kind of stuff, however seeing him use all types of machines to achieve a exceptional end product gained my following. Take care.
You just answered my question. Thank you
Nothing more satisfying than that last of 216 holes being tapped. Especially if you did them all by hand. Great video Adam. I am a hobbyist and will never have a Flex Machine like that but I have been looking at a CNC milling machine on the hobbyist level and this gives me great incite on what is involved and what a CNC can do. Thank you.
Hobby CNC machines can be a lot of fun, makes you able to machine more complex geometries without having dozens of special attachments and stuff. Just don't expect it to be able to rigid tap like this, the spindle most likely won't have the torque and most importantly won't be able to be synced with the Z-axis movement. What is possible however is thread milling.
Good video. I know when I was working, I really appreciated the computerized automation (not machining) to turn out much faster work for my projects. In retirement, I bought a small wood-shop CNC and thought I would like it just as much. However, after the program is tweaked and running correctly, it is boring since I am absolutely in no hurry to complete a project anymore. It also isn't as satisfying since my hands aren't actually doing much of the work. Now, if a tool was developed to professionally sand and finish a project, I would be all over it! Thanks.
Adam, many including me would be deeply interested in the finances of the new shop including numbers. Basically the business plan. And how you have the business structured to limit liability, tax, etc.
Nice try. LOL
It’s nice to see you using some Australian tech. It makes me feel proud.
Nice work! I would not bother with sealed collets for the carbide drills with through-tool cooling, it is best to use crimped/shrink fit holders which is the most commonly used holders for those types of tools in the industry.
First! Adam, haters gonna hate. Your revenge is your success. Keep up the good work!
Nice machines.
Dam i wish i could tap with my machine. that is so cool. My spindle can go forward and reverse but i doubt i would have enough torque at those low speeds. my spindle is only rated to 5000 rpm minimum. I really love that machine. too bad i am poor.
Providing your CAM solution allows it look up Thread Milling. Grab a block of maybe 1/2" Aluminium and 2 or 3 cheapy Thread Mills (because you will likely break one learning) and give it a go.
Man that flex cnc is nice perfect machine for that job
Love that sliding monitor holder/keyboard thing. How is that powered and connected?
One simple solution to deflect even fairly heavy spray is to use an air screen directly in front of the camera. It does not take much of a fan along with a simple slot to make one. This was what was used in early lake boats. A very heavy duty screen can be made by a rotating clear plastic circular sheet. This is the system used in heavy weather boats to keep the pilots view clear when waves inundate the pilothouse.
Keep up the good work.
Adam ,when or how do you chose , doing a spiral counter sink vs using an end mill the size of the counter sink?
Adam You mention power bill. Some of the industrial parks near me have solar panels on the roof. I am in Illinois, but I would imagine florida has more sunshine you should look into a sponsorship. Even if it doesnt fully power your shop It should power your ac and lights no problem with 110 ad 220.
And just absorbing sun before it hits the roof probably reduces AC load!
Would it be possible to use compressed air as a barrier to blow the coolant away from the camera lense?
oh god, the flex. taprs... we'll see how much
Respect for the errors. it might work out if
Beautiful, wish one could have met your father and grandfather as well. Love you all.
Do you have mounting bars (black ones), that will cover four rails on the bed? Pls forgive I don't know the correct names of the hardware. I was thinking that may stop the chatter for the next similar job. Followed for years, love it all.
You mentioned wanting to change to sealed collets, but IMO you’re getting a benefit from the coolant spray clearing chips from the area in which the machine will be working.
Looks to be working really well on the tap cycle now. I have some Parlec tension compression tap holders which allow some miss match and have a large amount of float in both directions should it be needed. The noise on the Z axis sounds like the motor tuning is out a little.
I like it, I like it. Beautiful work. Don’t see how it could have been done better. Maybe faster after many hours of practice but not better.
Adam are you done with the Bar Z Summer bash?
Can you flow the coolant across the work only, so it contacts only the tip of the tool? Or will the tool still pick up and sling the coolant? 🖖🙈
Adam,
I'm sure that you told us, but my memory is aging. How many tools do the carousels on your CNC each hold?
Do you anticipate being able to go from raw steel to a finished product in one or two operations? By operations, I mean hitting the start button and going from a raw plate to a finished product.
If you haven't done so already, chamfer the outside edges of your plate.
You have an impressive learning curve.
Bob
NICE!
As you said, it's what comes through the door. At some point you may be over the pucker factor enough to be doing manual work while the CNC's are running.
Happy 4th Adam
Team view is how skynet builds its robots
Have you considered building a clear view window for your camera so that you can mount it close to the tools using flood cooling? It's often used in the windows of the bridge of ships and consists of a disk of glass or plastic with a centrally mounted motor that spins it to throw off water or snow or in your case coolant.
Air knife
Adam,is there a reason why you don’t just use a chamfer tool bit that is large enough to simply plunge it ,as opposed to the circular motion ? It seems to me that you could cut the cycle time by a few seconds on each hole. Also,the traverse ,tool carlcel door ,and rotation seems a little slow as well . Just asking ( not a criticism). Thanks for sharing your experience.
I must have a Big Ass Fan. That's badass. 👊👊
Now you can machining the youtube logo😂.
Hello Adam! Are u going to the IMTS this year? Greetings from North Mankato MN.
You should get a windshield wiper and motor from the rear of a minivan and put it on that FlexCNC window.
How does it feel to have the capabilities you have in your new modernized shop Adam.... Very nice position you're in there!!
You have come a long ways. Without going to personal how do you quote a job like this? Just machine time? Do you add for all the holes?
That a CAT50 spindle in that thing?
Does the underside need to be deburred?
Could you fit solar panels on the roof? Would reduce the heat on the roof and run the AC for free!
Adam…. Just Paint a YELLOW line on the floor where the lower laser apron is … that will help remind you
one man band, disable any safety device that annoys you.
Doesn't really work because the laser moves with the gantry. Can't make the yellow line on the floor move.
Adam, E J here from the Bash and law questions. What brand is the watch your wearing in this video ? Off topic, but I like it !
I am not a 100% sure but it looks like a Luminox navy seal.
Thanks for teaching!