❤️ If you like CM//RR content, please consider membership at our Patreon page. Thank you :) www.patreon.com/cmrr GIESEKING PLAY BEETHOVEN / PRESENTATION + NEW MASTERING. *Presentation of the Recording / English Subtitles* (00:00) Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 1. Allegro (06:17) Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 2. Adagio (09:33) Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 3. Menuetto: Allegretto (14:42) Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 4. Prestissimo (17:27) Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 1. Allegro Vivace (21:04) Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 2. Largo Appassionato (26:03) Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 3. Scherzo: Allegretto (32:49) Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 4. Rondo: Grazioso (35:44) Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 1. Allegro Con Brio (41:38) Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 2. Adagio (48:59) Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 3. Scherzo: Allegro (55:23) Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 4. Allegro Assai (58:17) Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 1. Allegro (1:03:04) Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 2. Allegretto (1:08:02) Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 3. Presto (1:11:24) Piano Sonata #8 In C Minor, Op. 13, "Pathétique" 1. Grave - Allegro Di Molto E Con Brio (1:15:00) 2. Adagio Cantabile (1:21:09) 3. Rondo: Allegro (1:26:31) Piano Sonata #9 in E major, Op. 14/1 : I. Allegro (1:30:21) Piano Sonata #9 In E major, Op. 14/1 : II. Allegretto (1:36:49) Piano Sonata #9 in E major, Op. 14/1 : III. Rondo - Allegro comodo (1:40:14) Piano Sonata #10 in G major, Op. 14/2 : I. Allegro (1:43:20) Piano Sonata #10 In G major, Op. 14/2 : II. Andante (1:49:09) Piano Sonata #10 in G major, Op. 14/2 : III. Scherzo - Allegro assai (1:54:23) Piano Sonata #11 in B flat major, Op. 22 "Grande Sonate" I. Allegro con brio (1:57:30) ; II. Adagio Con Molta Espressione (2:02:24) III. Minuetto (2:10:24) ; IV. Rondo - Allegretto (2:13:25) Piano Sonata #12 In A Flat, Op. 26, "Funeral March" 1. Andante Con Variazioni (2:18:56) ; 2. Scherzo: Allegro Molto (2:26:02) 3. Marcia Funebre Sulla Morte D’Un Eroe (2:28:16) ; 4. Allegro (2:33:56) Piano Sonata #13 In E Flat, Op.27/1, "Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia" 1. Andante, Allegro, Andante (2:36:38) ; 2. Allegro Molte E Vivace (2:39:06) 3. Adagio Con Espressione (2:41:43) ; 4. Allegro Vivace (2:44:09) Piano Sonata #14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 27/2, "Moonlight" 1. Adagio Sostenuto (2:49:07) ; 2. Allegretto (2:54:45) 3. Presto Agitato (2:56:51) Piano Sonata #15 In D, Op. 28, "Pastoral" 1. Allegro (3:01:43) ; 2. Andante (3:08:05) 3. Scherzo : Allegro Vivace (3:14:08) 4. Rondo: Allegro Ma Non Troppo (3:16:19) Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 1. Allegro Vivace (3:20:55) Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 2. Adagio Grazioso (3:27:12) Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 3. Rondo: Allegretto, Adagio, Presto (3:35:59) Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 1. Largo, Allegro (3:41:38) Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 2. Adagio (3:48:12) Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 3. Allegretto (3:56:10) Piano Sonata #18 In E Flat, Op. 31/3, "The Hunt" 1. Allegro (4:00:43) ; 2. Scherzo: Allegretto Vivace (4:06:58) 3. Menuetto: Moderato Grazioso (4:11:54) ; 4. Presto Con Fuoco (4:15:31) Piano Sonata #19 In G Minor, Op. 49/1 - 1. Andante (4:19:32) Piano Sonata #19 In G Minor, Op. 49/1 - 2. Rondo: Allegro (4:23:56) Piano Sonata #21 In C, Op. 53, "Waldstein" 1. Allegro Con Brio (4:27:01) ; 2. Introduzione: Adagio Molto (4:34:20) 3. Rondo: Allegretto Moderato, Prestissimo (4:39:28) Piano Sonata #23 In F Minor, Op. 57, "Appassionata" 1. Allegro Assai (4:45:53) ; 2. Andante Con Moto (4:54:18) 3. Allegro Ma Non Troppo (5:00:34) Piano Sonata #24 In F Sharp Major, Op. 78 "For Therese" 1. Adagio Cantabile-Allegro Ma Non Troppo (5:05:12) 2. Allegro Vivace (5:11:56) Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 1. Presto Alla Tedesca (5:14:59) Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 2. Andante (5:19:06) Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 3. Vivace (5:21:19) Piano Sonata #26 In E Flat Major, Op.81A "Les Adieux" 1. Das Lebewohl - Adagio-Allegro (5:23:22) 2. Abwesenheit - Andante Espressivo (5:29:21) 3. Das Wiedersehn - Vivacissimamente (5:32:13) Piano Sonata #27 In E Minor, Op. 90 1. Mit Lebhaftigenkeit Und Durchaus Mit Empfindung Und Ausdruck (5:35:52) 2. Nicht Zu Geschwind Und Sehr Singbar Vorgetragen (5:41:00) Piano Sonata #28 In A Major, Op.101 1. Allegretto, ma non troppo - Etwas lebhaft und mit der innigsten Empfindung (5:48:30) 2. Vivace alla marcia - Lebhaft. Marschmassig (5:52:19) 3. Adagio ma non troppo, con alla affeto - Langsam und sehnsuchtsvoll (5:57:28) 4. Tempo del primo pezzo.. Allegro risoluto… Piano Sonata #29 In B Flat Major, Op.106 « Hammerklavier » 1. Allegro (6:06:16) ; 2. Scherzo - Assai vivace (6:15:23) 3. Adagio sostenuto, Appassionato e con molto sentimento (6:17:46) 4. Largo - Allegro risoluto (6:32:45) Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 1. Vivace Ma Non Troppo, Adagio Espressivo (6:42:48) Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 2. Prestissimo (6:46:21) Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 3. Gesangvoll, Mit Innigster Empfindung (6:48:36) Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 1. Moderato Cantabile, Molto Espressivo (6:59:03) Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 2. Allegro Molto (7:04:29) Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 3. Adagio Ma Non Troppo (7:06:12) Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 4. Fuga: Allegro Ma Non Troppo (7:09:06) Piano Sonata #32 In C Minor, Op. 111 1. Maestoso, Allegro Con Brio Appassionato (7:15:20) 2. Arietta: Adagio Molto Semplice E Cantabile (7:21:19) Piano : Walter Gieseking Recorded in 1949-1950 New Mastering in 2019 by AB for CMRR Find CMRR's recordings on *Spotify* : spoti.fi/3016eVr Ludwig Van Beethoven PLAYLIST (reference recordings) : ruclips.net/video/aI0FhkCnLoc/видео.html Discover Classical Music : Beethoven’s Piano Sonatas with Professor FABRE (CMRR 2.0) ruclips.net/video/jHtbNSfqVPU/видео.html
@@canman5060 with vinyls Gieseking recorded very much with " Colombia " 1952-1956 mono-recordings but recordings before 1950 in 78 t , they were remastered in 33 t mono vinyls . Debussy Ravel were recorded before his death 1952-1956 in mono vinyl
@@canman5060 you talk about a century's pianist of twentieth , j'm unknown recordings by Samson Francois died at 44 Y old very young not as Gieseking very old : all a life of a piano . It's easy to write , answer to me why you write this , j known Alfref Cortot more than Gieseking but j have all Debussy-Ravel by Gieseking , Frznce clidat all hers Listz ( 258 pièces) 58 ate on CD to day many pieces not interesting. How can you write this about 32 donatas here by Gieseking for Cortot j can answer j wait your answer j repeat thank's
I was introduced by my friend years ago to this epic recording of Beethoven Piano Sonatas and immediately fell in love of them.Most crystal clear and detailed play.They also form a very important part of my studies of these sonatas.
This presentation recalls the times of the 1950s when we listened to such recordings primarily for the interpretations rather than perfect sonic quality. I still cherish the old Toscanini interpretations
About negative reactions : I have always the greatest respect for someone who wants and tries to express his thoughts in an other language. My English is not so good and my French is bad but I do my best. Luckely we humans have one international language : MUSIC.
Unglaublich, welch eine ungeheuerliche Perfektion. Der Mann war kein Mensch oder doch nur ein "Mensch". Nuanciert, ausgefeilt bis ins Letzte, Tempi absolut richtig. Man kommt aus dem Staunen nicht mehr heraus. Göttlich!
Extraordinary. Thank you. I was 10 years old when I first heard Gieseking (early 1950s), and listening to him I learnt to play my first Beethoven sonatas. Am very grateful being able to listen again almost as I heard him all those years ago. Thank you again.
Classical Music/ /Reference Recording : Thank you :-) This is amazing. At age 77 I’m learning from Gieseking all over again! Cannot express how grateful I am to have the memories come alive. You have obviously put a great deal of work and dedication into this. Much appreciated.
Thanks for this great upload. I've noted some negative comments regarding your 6 minutes introduction regarding the recordings. Never mind those people, some of which are just simply unpleasant individuals. Yes, we all have ears and can listen for ourselves whether we like these recordings or not. Many years ago I use to always read reviews on recordings before I made decisions. But after more than 30 years of listening to classical music I only read reviews for interest sake. Usually afterwards I just ignore the review and do what I like, because by now I know what I like and what not, and why. I don't need reviews to tell me that. None the less I still find in insightful to read what others have to say regarding specific recordings, even when I disagree with it. I really like you 6 minute introduction and I think it would be great if you can continue with it in future uploads. It is good to hear why you regard specific recordings as reference recordings. I may agree, respectfully disagree or even gain new insights into the recording. Those who do not like such an introduction - their all adults- they should be able to figure out how to skip the introduction and go straight to the music.
when we are teenagers and more very young critics , press reviews are necessary to begin to Known the piano-world : there are one hundred recordings of Chopin-studies , how a young can discover the great recordings if he is alone ? impossible or he listen Polini during all his life perhaps ( j talk here before 1998 before internet ) what more to day , it's the same thing ! then he listen " Listz-Campanella " by Lisista who has it seems 3,2 K Like and not France Clidat who has to day 49 Like since her post in 2011 ! only a music-press , a critic or a lover music can say that you can listen Clidat and after he makes his personnal choice . J don't agree here with what you write . J discoveted Gieseking by piano-press and j listened him after because for me ( it's my choice ) he is the first in Debussy ( in Ravel j prefer Marguerite Long or Cortot who plays also some Ravel . Here j listened some sonatas ( 32 not possible ) j like viril Beethoven but perhaps à few too fast tempis
@@alainspiteri502 I am not against reviews. They certainly are helpful. For example, I read that there are by now at least 98 complete sets of Beethoven's piano sonatas on record. Impossible for anyone new to the sonatas to work through all of them, even it each set is available on a platform like RUclips. So, reviews are very handy to help people searching for the most desirable set to narrow the search down to perhaps 4 or 5 sets to compare and make a good decision. But, for me reviews are the BEGINNING of this process, not the END. I sometimes use reviews to start searching, but in the end it will not be the reviews who are going to determine my final choice. For that I will make up my own mind. For example, I've noted from other comments you've made on this upload of these Gieseking recordings that you personally consider the Yves Nat complete Beethoven sonatas set as the greatest voice for these great masterpieces. I have been searching recently for professional reviews on the Yves Nat set. I found mostly only customer reviews on Amazon, except for ONE professional review. And according to THAT review, there really is nothing special or exceptional about Nat's Beethoven. You agree with that? I am sure you don't. And neither do I.
@@ewaldsteyn469 j'm agree with you " reviews are the begginins and not a end .." necessary for a young and after a personnal choice of course ; about professionnal reviews it's necessary to sell also the new pianists : it's a thing about money for publishers j understand this very well and mostly when the young pianist twenty Y old is a great pianist : j'm agree with Chopin by Daniil Kharitonov 100/ 100 . A young pianist as Kharitonov is in piano-press for sell CD and j'm agree . Notoriety is not talent ! Yves did,'t like to play in front of an audience it's a fact but before his death in 1956 he recorded the Beethoven 32 sonatas they are the work of all a life , they are the testament of Y Nat mono eecording . There is a thing that you don't understand " THE NOTORIETY " ! notoriety is not the talent and before to talk about a pianist it's necessary to listen him , you don't known Y Nat and you talk about him it's always the same thing on Y Tube !
I enjoy your introductions. Why would anyone complain about your introductions??? There are those of us who subscribed to "Hi-Fidelity Magazine" and "Stereo Review" primarily for the reviews of Martin Bookspan and others. I rarely agreed with the reviews, but their comments always opened up new vistas with which I could "hear", listen and appreciate better what I myself heard in the music.
Walter Gieseking was a very respected pianist of the German School of the XXth century. His Beethoven was always appreciated. From this serie of rhe sonatas, I would like to underline his rendering of the hammerklavier. It seems to me that Gieseking knew how to read this score that many found harsh or obscure. His version is equilibrated, logical, almost lyrical. Many thanks Classical Music for this historical recording.
@@saltburner2 Thanks for your comment. Personally, I question the wisdom of judging people for beliefs or behavior of the past, when feelings and perceptions were different from those held today.
Although the initial presentation is influenced by the presenter's French accent, the messages are quite clear and understandable. The performance by this incomparable virtuoso with his technically perfect and artistically convincing pianism is the eternal paragon of Beethoven's piano sonatas. Thanks for the elaborate and valuable upload!
Thank you so much. It is far better to leave the artifacts of age than digitally remove them I feel for in doing so some essence is lost in the emotion of the recording. One soon learns to mentally block out such artifacts I find and simply absorb the performance in its original integrity.
Dwelling in RUclips musical world (classic) and I recall when it was necessary to look for a record shop to find any special recording. Nowadays here I am enjoying Gieseking playing with one touch... and on my mobile phone. Modern times!! (or not Mr. Chaplin?)
I have always liked the complete recordings by both Schnabel and Backhaus, but having heard these performances, we have stiff competition here: Forget the other complete sonata recordings by Brendel, Kempff, Barenboim, Gould etc, this complete set is a real beauty.
💝💝💝 Thank you so very much indeed for this ... truly a wonderful rare treasure ... A very fine representation, too ... Nice to see you "live", I admire your work ... TY
Merci pour ton travail et ce que tu partages ici, c'est grâce à ta chaîne que j'ai découvert les sonates de Beethoven par Arrau il y a déjà presque trois ans. Et depuis ce temps, je n'ai presque rien écouté d'autre, j'ai l'impression que le fond émotionnel et intellectuel de ces œuvres est inépuisable.
Très bonne interprétation, Giesking est trop peu connu, par ailleurs ses Bach sont excellents. Il y a aussi un concerto L'empereur de Beethoven avec Rother qui est une merveille !
Gieseking est connu pour Debussy en premier , pianiste historique . Nous sommes dans une période de meditisiation en fait ou l'on en vient à vénérer des pianistes comme M Argerich qui nous laisse une minuscule discographie en piano-solos et internet va dans ce sens ou mon peut voir des aberrations monumentales pour ne citer que Valentina Lisista qui a 3,2 K Like alors que France Clidat n'a que 49 Like ( au sujet de la Campanella ds Listz ) the phénomène médiatique actuel et nouveau va disparaître quand la nouvelle génération entendre par hazard un jour Gieseking ( Debussy ) Alfred Cortot et ses études de Chopin ( 1933 ) ou Clara Haskil dans,Schumann , ces pianistes ressortiront inévitablement de l'ombre passé le phénomène internet qui trône sur la musique avec RUclips , l'usure du temps fera que les Giesekings Cortot Haskil ressortiront un jour de l'ombre c'est inévitable
@@Sofronichrist il ne s'agit pas de discuter mais d'écouter le même morceau joué par l'une et par l'autre . Je ne suis pas de la génération internet et autrefois avant d'acheter un vinyl on écoutait sur FM ou o lisait les critiques spécialisée avant d'acheter, aujourd'hui on télécharge mais trop vite sans avoir assez écouter le même morceau par d'autre , c'est le phénomène internet et les plus grands sont ds l'ombre c'est un phénomène qui va d'user ds le temps qd par hazard la nouvelle génération entendre un " Mephisto-valse " par France Clidat , je ne serai plus la pour voir ce renversement de situation je suis trop âgé
@@alainspiteri502 Je vous invite à regarder les comparaisons qui sont sur ma chaîne ( il y a même une playlist ). Cela étant dit intéressons nous à la Campanella. Elle fait partie des études d'exécution transcendantes d'après Paganini de Liszt ( transcription d'un caprice, op.1 ). Dans les grandes version nous pouvons citer Cziffra, bien sûr, c'est certainement la référence. Mais je préfère Jorge Bolet et son approche plus romantique de la pièce, moins virtuose. Il y a également Nikita Magaloff, excellent, quoiqu'un peu virtuose lui aussi ( cela dit Liszt était un pianiste virtuose ). Je m'abstiendrai de citer Lang Lang, Lisita et les autres commerciaux. Lazar Berman est bien, mais je lui préfère France Clidat ( excellente en tous points ). Voilà voilà...
@@Sofronichrist " et les autres commerciaux " c'est le terme clef concernant les musiciens hélas , certains et non des moindres sont tombés ds le commercial , quel gâchis je veux parler de Vladimir Aschkenazy que j ai suivi depuis ses premiers records chez Decca , J ignore ce qui s'est passé ms a partir de 1980' il est entré ds une boulimie d'enregistrements incompréhensible en commenca't les intégrales Schumann , Chopin et on a perdu l'immense pianiste qu'il était ; restent ses Rachmaninov Prokovieve , . pour les mélomanes et qui restent gravés pour tjs ( heureusement ... )
Wonderfull interpretations. The simplicity of the lectute make this great. Deeply emotions cause for my his playing. But i must be sincerely any time i have present Gieseking relation with the nazis. I am jew and i can not forgot that.
There are also Jews that have been associated with the communist party ( ex : Oistrakh ) . I mean the USRR weren't angles to the jews either with the pogroms .
Thankyou ! I greatly appreciated the introduction and the summary view. Indeed Beethoven is in fact a classical composer.I like a bit reserve or is the correct English word "aloofness" ? My English let me a bit down here to express what I mean.
I was first introduced to Gieseking in prep school as "the finest interpreter of Debussy"! Zeer vriendelijk….Groeten, mijn vriend, van San Agustinillo, México!
@@steveegallo3384 That's a nice surprise, groeten in het Nederlands uit México. Vriendelijke groeten uit België (Belgium). Never heard Gieseking with Debussy, I'm searching.
It is also mentioned in the album notes of the Angel recording from later in the 50s (which included the first three movements only). I don't remember any LP recordings of the later sonatas being available back then, except a very good Columbia disc of the Waldstein and Appassionata . I'm looking forward to hearing the late sonatas, maybe tonight. Thank you for the opportunity. Great to live in a time when so many great performances can be heard.
Do you know what piano was used for these recordings? It does not sound like a Steinway - more like a good upright, or perhaps an older grand - Bechstein, perhaps?
"During World War II, Gieseking continued to reside in Germany, while continuing to concertize in Europe, and was accused of having collaborated with the Nazi Party. He was criticized for this by Vladimir Horowitz, who, in David Dubal's book Evenings with Horowitz, called Gieseking a 'supporter of the Nazis', and by Arthur Rubinstein, who recounted in his book My Many Years a conversation with Gieseking in which Gieseking said, 'I am a committed Nazi. Hitler is saving our country'. Gieseking performed in front of Nazi cultural organizations such as the NS Kulturgemeinde and 'expressed a desire to play for the Führer'".--Wikipedia article on Gieseking
@@alainspiteri502 On the contrary, I have bought from Amazon UK sets of the Beethoven sonatas by Schnabel, Kempff, Arrau, Serkin, Solomon, Brendel, Gulda and Nat!
alain Spiteri Thank you, there are some early videos from eminent art people. Remember Saint-Saens, Picasso, Toscanini, Cortot, Rubinstein, and so many others. I always wanted to have a kind of visual epiphany of a pianist who has been regarded as one that possessed in very high degree qualities of natural technique, memory and musical wisdom. Certainly one of the best magicians of all times.
I greatly admire your uploads, BUT, please have this speaker introduce as he does, en francais, or, a speaker of English without a similar accent. This speaker needs work on his English pronunciation. Someone speaking francais in a similar manner would be ridiculed. As it stands, you do both Gieseking and LvB by such a poor introduction. Please keep up the good work, otherwise. These wonderful uploads do NOT actually need an introduction!
Gieseking is not a lyrical pianist it's sure : when a piece is too fast the melody desappears and mostly the soul . Since the first sonata - 4 -8 -14 and the famous Apoasionata the tempis are too fast for me . Every body says that Kempff is the first Beethoven-sonatas in fact he don't plays Beethoven , J think with Kempff about a effeminate Beethoven but very lyrical and a piano sound wonderful and Kempff is with the first in Beethoven . The viril Beethoven is Yves Nat for me great true Beethoven . For me Gieseking is Debussy above the notes with a impressionism-Debussy , an historical Debussy . J listen a critic said to day in 2020 we don't play Debussy as agree because there are not pianist with the sonority of Gieseking , when we listen Debussy--studies by Debussy and by Pollini it's here the difference : puanists to day are too heavy in Debussy , Polini also . It's necessary to heard some sonatas by Gieseking to known an other Gieseking , J discover a new pianist for me
On the contrary, we believe that Gieseking (also Richter in a less natural way) are "perhaps" the only ones we know, who have achieved this technical ease while being extremely expressive. Gieseking is the Beethoven of the classical heritage.
J listen a video of Marie Cztherine Girod is prohibited on Y T : if j can say some words about this pianist , she is the same erea of Jean Marin pianist , j known her a few , in first she has big technical-piano but it seems for me that she is more a Teacher than a famous pianist , not a personnality with a special Composer but she plays all Composers . Maria Tipo same erea also is better in J S Bach . Sonatas of Weber by M C Girod seems the same thing of recordings of Weber by J Martin , j don't listen a difference , " the perpertual mobile ' of Weber is stunning in virtuosity but no more also than Orazio Frugoni ( American pianist 1960 ') who recorded it also. Four pianists of 1970' ( same age) : Gabriel Tacchino M Tipo M Girod J Martin for me the best is Gabtriel Tacchino and one more Jean Philippe Collard Who recorded All Gabriel Faure the best . In first Jean Philippe Collard in second Gabriel Tacchino the best pianist in 1970 and after pianists with nothing particularity as M C Girod . Dans les " Romances sans paroles " Daniel Barenboim of course ! Marie Christine Gorid is a good pianist no.mote than a consevatory-Teacher , it's not a loss
Though I appreciate your efforts to remaster and present old recordings, in the case of Walter Gieseking it seems to me somewhat misguided. First, let me point out that WG was a devoted Nazi, who even went to some length to praise and support Adolf Hitler. (Unfortunately, a similar thing is true about Wilhelm Backhaus.) As for your introductory comments, if you insist on maintaining the (to me absurd) distinction between Apollonian and Dionysian music, perhaps translated into classical versus romantic, then Beethoven is an exceptionally bad example of the former, since he started off in the classical spirit of Haydn, and gradually moved into the romantic style, where he became one of the great pioneers. Regarding WG, whether it is deliberate or not, but to me his Beethoven playing is very strange and erratic, and I would much prefer to listen to Arrau, Kempf, Gulda, Brendel, ... If he is less known as an interpreter of Beethoven, there may be a good reason, namely that he was not accepted as such by the audiences of his day. --- Finally, regarding your initial `presentation', why don't you omit that part, or at least speak in French with English subtitles?
I liked it better when you didn't do such a "presentation." Leave that stuff in the description. I just want to hear the great Gieseking play Beethoven. I'll make judgments about his playing for myself. But, putting the "presentation" off to the side, great upload.
Jean Ghika : Is it necessary to be so very rude? You have 7 hours of gorgeous music without having to get up from your chair. How about a simple “thank you”?
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GIESEKING PLAY BEETHOVEN / PRESENTATION + NEW MASTERING.
*Presentation of the Recording / English Subtitles* (00:00)
Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 1. Allegro (06:17)
Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 2. Adagio (09:33)
Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 3. Menuetto: Allegretto (14:42)
Piano Sonata #1 In F Minor, Op. 2/1 - 4. Prestissimo (17:27)
Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 1. Allegro Vivace (21:04)
Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 2. Largo Appassionato (26:03)
Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 3. Scherzo: Allegretto (32:49)
Piano Sonata #2 In A, Op. 2/2 - 4. Rondo: Grazioso (35:44)
Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 1. Allegro Con Brio (41:38)
Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 2. Adagio (48:59)
Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 3. Scherzo: Allegro (55:23)
Piano Sonata #3 In C, Op. 2/3 - 4. Allegro Assai (58:17)
Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 1. Allegro (1:03:04)
Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 2. Allegretto (1:08:02)
Piano Sonata #6 In F, Op. 10/2 - 3. Presto (1:11:24)
Piano Sonata #8 In C Minor, Op. 13, "Pathétique"
1. Grave - Allegro Di Molto E Con Brio (1:15:00)
2. Adagio Cantabile (1:21:09) 3. Rondo: Allegro (1:26:31)
Piano Sonata #9 in E major, Op. 14/1 : I. Allegro (1:30:21)
Piano Sonata #9 In E major, Op. 14/1 : II. Allegretto (1:36:49)
Piano Sonata #9 in E major, Op. 14/1 : III. Rondo - Allegro comodo (1:40:14)
Piano Sonata #10 in G major, Op. 14/2 : I. Allegro (1:43:20)
Piano Sonata #10 In G major, Op. 14/2 : II. Andante (1:49:09)
Piano Sonata #10 in G major, Op. 14/2 : III. Scherzo - Allegro assai (1:54:23)
Piano Sonata #11 in B flat major, Op. 22 "Grande Sonate"
I. Allegro con brio (1:57:30) ; II. Adagio Con Molta Espressione (2:02:24)
III. Minuetto (2:10:24) ; IV. Rondo - Allegretto (2:13:25)
Piano Sonata #12 In A Flat, Op. 26, "Funeral March"
1. Andante Con Variazioni (2:18:56) ; 2. Scherzo: Allegro Molto (2:26:02)
3. Marcia Funebre Sulla Morte D’Un Eroe (2:28:16) ; 4. Allegro (2:33:56)
Piano Sonata #13 In E Flat, Op.27/1, "Sonata Quasi Una Fantasia"
1. Andante, Allegro, Andante (2:36:38) ; 2. Allegro Molte E Vivace (2:39:06)
3. Adagio Con Espressione (2:41:43) ; 4. Allegro Vivace (2:44:09)
Piano Sonata #14 In C Sharp Minor, Op. 27/2, "Moonlight"
1. Adagio Sostenuto (2:49:07) ; 2. Allegretto (2:54:45)
3. Presto Agitato (2:56:51)
Piano Sonata #15 In D, Op. 28, "Pastoral"
1. Allegro (3:01:43) ; 2. Andante (3:08:05)
3. Scherzo : Allegro Vivace (3:14:08)
4. Rondo: Allegro Ma Non Troppo (3:16:19)
Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 1. Allegro Vivace (3:20:55)
Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 2. Adagio Grazioso (3:27:12)
Piano Sonata #16 In G, Op. 31/1 - 3. Rondo: Allegretto, Adagio, Presto (3:35:59)
Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 1. Largo, Allegro (3:41:38)
Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 2. Adagio (3:48:12)
Piano Sonata #17 In D Minor, Op. 31/2, "Tempest" - 3. Allegretto (3:56:10)
Piano Sonata #18 In E Flat, Op. 31/3, "The Hunt"
1. Allegro (4:00:43) ; 2. Scherzo: Allegretto Vivace (4:06:58)
3. Menuetto: Moderato Grazioso (4:11:54) ; 4. Presto Con Fuoco (4:15:31)
Piano Sonata #19 In G Minor, Op. 49/1 - 1. Andante (4:19:32)
Piano Sonata #19 In G Minor, Op. 49/1 - 2. Rondo: Allegro (4:23:56)
Piano Sonata #21 In C, Op. 53, "Waldstein"
1. Allegro Con Brio (4:27:01) ; 2. Introduzione: Adagio Molto (4:34:20)
3. Rondo: Allegretto Moderato, Prestissimo (4:39:28)
Piano Sonata #23 In F Minor, Op. 57, "Appassionata"
1. Allegro Assai (4:45:53) ; 2. Andante Con Moto (4:54:18)
3. Allegro Ma Non Troppo (5:00:34)
Piano Sonata #24 In F Sharp Major, Op. 78 "For Therese"
1. Adagio Cantabile-Allegro Ma Non Troppo (5:05:12)
2. Allegro Vivace (5:11:56)
Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 1. Presto Alla Tedesca (5:14:59)
Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 2. Andante (5:19:06)
Piano Sonata #25 In G Major, Op. 79 3. Vivace (5:21:19)
Piano Sonata #26 In E Flat Major, Op.81A "Les Adieux"
1. Das Lebewohl - Adagio-Allegro (5:23:22)
2. Abwesenheit - Andante Espressivo (5:29:21)
3. Das Wiedersehn - Vivacissimamente (5:32:13)
Piano Sonata #27 In E Minor, Op. 90
1. Mit Lebhaftigenkeit Und Durchaus Mit Empfindung Und Ausdruck (5:35:52)
2. Nicht Zu Geschwind Und Sehr Singbar Vorgetragen (5:41:00)
Piano Sonata #28 In A Major, Op.101
1. Allegretto, ma non troppo - Etwas lebhaft und mit der innigsten Empfindung (5:48:30)
2. Vivace alla marcia - Lebhaft. Marschmassig (5:52:19)
3. Adagio ma non troppo, con alla affeto - Langsam und sehnsuchtsvoll (5:57:28)
4. Tempo del primo pezzo.. Allegro risoluto…
Piano Sonata #29 In B Flat Major, Op.106 « Hammerklavier »
1. Allegro (6:06:16) ; 2. Scherzo - Assai vivace (6:15:23)
3. Adagio sostenuto, Appassionato e con molto sentimento (6:17:46)
4. Largo - Allegro risoluto (6:32:45)
Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 1. Vivace Ma Non Troppo, Adagio Espressivo (6:42:48)
Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 2. Prestissimo (6:46:21)
Piano Sonata #30 In E, Op. 109 - 3. Gesangvoll, Mit Innigster Empfindung (6:48:36)
Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 1. Moderato Cantabile, Molto Espressivo (6:59:03)
Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 2. Allegro Molto (7:04:29)
Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 3. Adagio Ma Non Troppo (7:06:12)
Piano Sonata #31 In A Flat, Op. 110 - 4. Fuga: Allegro Ma Non Troppo (7:09:06)
Piano Sonata #32 In C Minor, Op. 111
1. Maestoso, Allegro Con Brio Appassionato (7:15:20)
2. Arietta: Adagio Molto Semplice E Cantabile (7:21:19)
Piano : Walter Gieseking
Recorded in 1949-1950
New Mastering in 2019 by AB for CMRR
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What happened to no. 7 & no. 20?
@@Ridicolosamente Too bad It's not an integral
@@Ridicolosamente Walter Gieseking did not record the complete set I guess.
@@canman5060 with vinyls Gieseking recorded very much with " Colombia " 1952-1956 mono-recordings but recordings before 1950 in 78 t , they were remastered in 33 t mono vinyls . Debussy Ravel were recorded before his death 1952-1956 in mono vinyl
@@canman5060 you talk about a century's pianist of twentieth , j'm unknown recordings by Samson Francois died at 44 Y old very young not as Gieseking very old : all a life of a piano . It's easy to write , answer to me why you write this , j known Alfref Cortot more than Gieseking but j have all Debussy-Ravel by Gieseking , Frznce clidat all hers Listz ( 258 pièces) 58 ate on CD to day many pieces not interesting. How can you write this about 32 donatas here by Gieseking for Cortot j can answer j wait your answer j repeat thank's
I was introduced by my friend years ago to this epic recording of Beethoven Piano Sonatas and immediately fell in love of them.Most crystal clear and detailed play.They also form a very important part of my studies of these sonatas.
This presentation recalls the times of the 1950s when we listened to such recordings primarily for the interpretations rather than perfect sonic quality. I still cherish the old Toscanini interpretations
About negative reactions : I have always the greatest respect for someone who wants and tries to express his thoughts in an other language. My English is not so good and my French is bad but I do my best. Luckely we humans have one international language : MUSIC.
The only internacional elements are jewish people. These sonatas are Germany spirit!
@@mpcpiano4306 lol! damn you're right!
@@mpcpiano4306 Yup. Not all music is created equally.
Unglaublich, welch eine ungeheuerliche Perfektion. Der Mann war kein Mensch oder doch nur ein "Mensch". Nuanciert, ausgefeilt bis ins Letzte, Tempi absolut richtig. Man kommt aus dem Staunen nicht mehr heraus. Göttlich!
Extraordinary. Thank you. I was 10 years old when I first heard Gieseking (early 1950s), and listening to him I learnt to play my first Beethoven sonatas. Am very grateful being able to listen again almost as I heard him all those years ago. Thank you again.
I'm happy for you:-)
Classical Music/ /Reference Recording : Thank you :-) This is amazing. At age 77 I’m learning from Gieseking all over again! Cannot express how grateful I am to have the memories come alive. You have obviously put a great deal of work and dedication into this. Much appreciated.
Hello, it must have been un unforgetable moment for you to hear Gieseking live.
Thanks for this great upload. I've noted some negative comments regarding your 6 minutes introduction regarding the recordings. Never mind those people, some of which are just simply unpleasant individuals. Yes, we all have ears and can listen for ourselves whether we like these recordings or not. Many years ago I use to always read reviews on recordings before I made decisions. But after more than 30 years of listening to classical music I only read reviews for interest sake. Usually afterwards I just ignore the review and do what I like, because by now I know what I like and what not, and why. I don't need reviews to tell me that. None the less I still find in insightful to read what others have to say regarding specific recordings, even when I disagree with it. I really like you 6 minute introduction and I think it would be great if you can continue with it in future uploads. It is good to hear why you regard specific recordings as reference recordings. I may agree, respectfully disagree or even gain new insights into the recording. Those who do not like such an introduction - their all adults- they should be able to figure out how to skip the introduction and go straight to the music.
when we are teenagers and more very young critics , press reviews are necessary to begin to Known the piano-world : there are one hundred recordings of Chopin-studies , how a young can discover the great recordings if he is alone ? impossible or he listen Polini during all his life perhaps ( j talk here before 1998 before internet ) what more to day , it's the same thing ! then he listen " Listz-Campanella " by Lisista who has it seems 3,2 K Like and not France Clidat who has to day 49 Like since her post in 2011 ! only a music-press , a critic or a lover music can say that you can listen Clidat and after he makes his personnal choice . J don't agree here with what you write . J discoveted Gieseking by piano-press and j listened him after because for me ( it's my choice ) he is the first in Debussy ( in Ravel j prefer Marguerite Long or Cortot who plays also some Ravel . Here j listened some sonatas ( 32 not possible ) j like viril Beethoven but perhaps à few too fast tempis
@@alainspiteri502 I am not against reviews. They certainly are helpful. For example, I read that there are by now at least 98 complete sets of Beethoven's piano sonatas on record. Impossible for anyone new to the sonatas to work through all of them, even it each set is available on a platform like RUclips. So, reviews are very handy to help people searching for the most desirable set to narrow the search down to perhaps 4 or 5 sets to compare and make a good decision. But, for me reviews are the BEGINNING of this process, not the END. I sometimes use reviews to start searching, but in the end it will not be the reviews who are going to determine my final choice. For that I will make up my own mind. For example, I've noted from other comments you've made on this upload of these Gieseking recordings that you personally consider the Yves Nat complete Beethoven sonatas set as the greatest voice for these great masterpieces. I have been searching recently for professional reviews on the Yves Nat set. I found mostly only customer reviews on Amazon, except for ONE professional review. And according to THAT review, there really is nothing special or exceptional about Nat's Beethoven. You agree with that? I am sure you don't. And neither do I.
@@ewaldsteyn469 j'm agree with you " reviews are the begginins and not a end .." necessary for a young and after a personnal choice of course ; about professionnal reviews it's necessary to sell also the new pianists : it's a thing about money for publishers j understand this very well and mostly when the young pianist twenty Y old is a great pianist : j'm agree with Chopin by Daniil Kharitonov 100/ 100 . A young pianist as Kharitonov is in piano-press for sell CD and j'm agree . Notoriety is not talent ! Yves did,'t like to play in front of an audience it's a fact but before his death in 1956 he recorded the Beethoven 32 sonatas they are the work of all a life , they are the testament of Y Nat mono eecording . There is a thing that you don't understand " THE NOTORIETY " ! notoriety is not the talent and before to talk about a pianist it's necessary to listen him , you don't known Y Nat and you talk about him it's always the same thing on Y Tube !
I enjoy your introductions. Why would anyone complain about your introductions??? There are those of us who subscribed to "Hi-Fidelity Magazine" and "Stereo Review" primarily for the reviews of Martin Bookspan and others. I rarely agreed with the reviews, but their comments always opened up new vistas with which I could "hear", listen and appreciate better what I myself heard in the music.
j aime bien la présentation de ces sonates, merci pour le partage et surtout bonne écoute !!!!!!
Merci Eric :)
@@classicalmusicreference qui ou
Eh bien, monsieur. Bon!
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This recording is pure gold.
Excellent explanation and music interpretation!! Thank you so, so much!!
You're welcome :-)
Walter Gieseking was a very respected pianist of the German School of the XXth century. His Beethoven was always appreciated. From this serie of rhe sonatas, I would like to underline his rendering of the hammerklavier. It seems to me that Gieseking knew how to read this score that many found harsh or obscure. His version is equilibrated, logical, almost lyrical. Many thanks Classical Music for this historical recording.
I think his reputation was tarnished somewhat by his enthusiastic support of the Nazis (for which he was berated by Rubinstein) - same with Elly Ney.
@@saltburner2 Thanks for your comment. Personally, I question the wisdom of judging people for beliefs or behavior of the past, when feelings and perceptions were different from those held today.
Great video. Thank you.
:-)
Although the initial presentation is influenced by the presenter's French accent, the messages are quite clear and understandable. The performance by this incomparable virtuoso with his technically perfect and artistically convincing pianism is the eternal paragon of Beethoven's piano sonatas. Thanks for the elaborate and valuable upload!
Thanks :-)
You're welcome!
You were correct. Excellent rendition!!! Thank you.
Thank you so much. It is far better to leave the artifacts of age than digitally remove them I feel for in doing so some essence is lost in the emotion of the recording. One soon learns to mentally block out such artifacts I find and simply absorb the performance in its original integrity.
Thank you for making such justice of M.Gieseking's great art in your introduction. Very well said sir. Best wishes.
Thank you for this. I didn’t know Gieseking played Beethoven let alone recorded the complete (?) sonatas. Very interesting. Classical poise and power.
Yes - EMI was quick to re-issue his Mozart, Debussy and Ravel, but neglected his Beethoven, much of which was recorded before the LP was the thing.
Immense thanks for sharing this wonderful treasure trove masterfully rendered by the great Gieseking. Im learning new things from the Maestro all the time, including the most familiar Sonata Pathetique. Too bad he passed away before the stereo/digital eras.
with pleasure Apisak :-)
And the era of piano tuners..😉
Dwelling in RUclips musical world (classic) and I recall when it was necessary to look for a record shop to find any special recording. Nowadays here I am enjoying Gieseking playing with one touch... and on my mobile phone. Modern times!! (or not Mr. Chaplin?)
Superb performances. Great technique.
I have always liked the complete recordings by both Schnabel and Backhaus, but having heard these performances, we have stiff competition here: Forget the other complete sonata recordings by Brendel, Kempff, Barenboim, Gould etc, this complete set is a real beauty.
Thank you for your informed and encouraging introduction!
💝💝💝 Thank you so very much indeed for this ... truly a wonderful rare treasure ... A very fine representation, too ... Nice to see you "live", I admire your work ... TY
Merci pour ton travail et ce que tu partages ici, c'est grâce à ta chaîne que j'ai découvert les sonates de Beethoven par Arrau il y a déjà presque trois ans. Et depuis ce temps, je n'ai presque rien écouté d'autre, j'ai l'impression que le fond émotionnel et intellectuel de ces œuvres est inépuisable.
Merci pour le retour. Ca fait toujours plaisir :-)
Спасибо за Музыку! Огромное удовольствие слушать Бетховена, особенно в таком исполнении.
Thanks!
Muito obrigado pela postagem sonoridade inigualável deste maravilhoso pianista.bravissimo
com prazer: -)
Très bonne interprétation, Giesking est trop peu connu, par ailleurs ses Bach sont excellents. Il y a aussi un concerto L'empereur de Beethoven avec Rother qui est une merveille !
Gieseking est connu pour Debussy en premier , pianiste historique . Nous sommes dans une période de meditisiation en fait ou l'on en vient à vénérer des pianistes comme M Argerich qui nous laisse une minuscule discographie en piano-solos et internet va dans ce sens ou mon peut voir des aberrations monumentales pour ne citer que Valentina Lisista qui a 3,2 K Like alors que France Clidat n'a que 49 Like ( au sujet de la Campanella ds Listz ) the phénomène médiatique actuel et nouveau va disparaître quand la nouvelle génération entendre par hazard un jour Gieseking ( Debussy ) Alfred Cortot et ses études de Chopin ( 1933 ) ou Clara Haskil dans,Schumann , ces pianistes ressortiront inévitablement de l'ombre passé le phénomène internet qui trône sur la musique avec RUclips , l'usure du temps fera que les Giesekings Cortot Haskil ressortiront un jour de l'ombre c'est inévitable
alain Spiteri Je ne discuterais pas de Lisita... Quant à Clara Haskil elle est encore meilleure dans Mozart ;-) !
@@Sofronichrist il ne s'agit pas de discuter mais d'écouter le même morceau joué par l'une et par l'autre . Je ne suis pas de la génération internet et autrefois avant d'acheter un vinyl on écoutait sur FM ou o lisait les critiques spécialisée avant d'acheter, aujourd'hui on télécharge mais trop vite sans avoir assez écouter le même morceau par d'autre , c'est le phénomène internet et les plus grands sont ds l'ombre c'est un phénomène qui va d'user ds le temps qd par hazard la nouvelle génération entendre un " Mephisto-valse " par France Clidat , je ne serai plus la pour voir ce renversement de situation je suis trop âgé
@@alainspiteri502 Je vous invite à regarder les comparaisons qui sont sur ma chaîne ( il y a même une playlist ). Cela étant dit intéressons nous à la Campanella. Elle fait partie des études d'exécution transcendantes d'après Paganini de Liszt ( transcription d'un caprice, op.1 ). Dans les grandes version nous pouvons citer Cziffra, bien sûr, c'est certainement la référence. Mais je préfère Jorge Bolet et son approche plus romantique de la pièce, moins virtuose. Il y a également Nikita Magaloff, excellent, quoiqu'un peu virtuose lui aussi ( cela dit Liszt était un pianiste virtuose ). Je m'abstiendrai de citer Lang Lang, Lisita et les autres commerciaux. Lazar Berman est bien, mais je lui préfère France Clidat ( excellente en tous points ). Voilà voilà...
@@Sofronichrist " et les autres commerciaux " c'est le terme clef concernant les musiciens hélas , certains et non des moindres sont tombés ds le commercial , quel gâchis je veux parler de Vladimir Aschkenazy que j ai suivi depuis ses premiers records chez Decca , J ignore ce qui s'est passé ms a partir de 1980' il est entré ds une boulimie d'enregistrements incompréhensible en commenca't les intégrales Schumann , Chopin et on a perdu l'immense pianiste qu'il était ; restent ses Rachmaninov Prokovieve , . pour les mélomanes et qui restent gravés pour tjs ( heureusement ... )
Great presentation. Thank you
Gracias y saludos cordiales desde Mallorca para vosotros classical music
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Muchas gracias por el video!
con agrado :)
His sonata 16 is super respectful to the score . Needless to say it is my new favorite :P
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Thank you
A big Thank You! Please look into the recordings of the great Henri Barda.
I thought the opening movement of the first sonata was a little too fast, but the second movement was sublime.
Wonderfull interpretations. The simplicity of the lectute make this great. Deeply emotions cause for my his playing. But i must be sincerely any time i have present Gieseking relation with the nazis. I am jew and i can not forgot that.
There are also Jews that have been associated with the communist party ( ex : Oistrakh ) . I mean the USRR weren't angles to the jews either with the pogroms .
He was a pianist. People are wrong sometimes in some areas. Same with me. What I wrote in my famous essay was plain nonsense.
Thankyou ! I greatly appreciated the introduction and the summary view. Indeed Beethoven is in fact a classical composer.I like a bit reserve or is the correct English word "aloofness" ? My English let me a bit down here to express what I mean.
Frans Meersman : Your English is fine. We understand what you mean!
@@quaver1239 Thankyou for your kind words.
I was first introduced to Gieseking in prep school as "the finest interpreter of Debussy"! Zeer vriendelijk….Groeten, mijn vriend, van San Agustinillo, México!
@@steveegallo3384 That's a nice surprise, groeten in het Nederlands uit México. Vriendelijke groeten uit België (Belgium). Never heard Gieseking with Debussy, I'm searching.
You're welcome Frans :-)
Among them: Giesekings last piano-playing ever: he died over op. 28!
Yes, it´s described in Gieseking´s autobiographie "So wurde ich Pianist" (by his daughter).
It is also mentioned in the album notes of the Angel recording from later in the 50s (which included the first three movements only). I don't remember any LP recordings of the later sonatas being available back then, except a very good Columbia disc of the Waldstein and Appassionata . I'm looking forward to hearing the late sonatas, maybe tonight. Thank you for the opportunity. Great to live in a time when so many great performances can be heard.
The pianos of Beethoven's age had much thinner sounds. Apologies for the mastering are not necessary .
Great upload many many thanks also could we get an idea on future uploads what are your planes for the next few months and do you take requests?
You're welcome . The work is done according to the inspiration of the moment :-) What is your request ?
“Inspiration of the moment” spoken like a true artist and I would like to see some more Verdi operas to see what great recordings are out there thanks
Do you know what piano was used for these recordings? It does not sound like a Steinway - more like a good upright, or perhaps an older grand - Bechstein, perhaps?
The actual recording starts at 6:17 in case you would like to skip the introduction.
Yes Lisa :-)
@@classicalmusicreference I really enjoyed the talk, by the way! But maybe not every day ;)
"During World War II, Gieseking continued to reside in Germany, while continuing to concertize in Europe, and was accused of having collaborated with the Nazi Party. He was criticized for this by Vladimir Horowitz, who, in David Dubal's book Evenings with Horowitz, called Gieseking a 'supporter of the Nazis', and by Arthur Rubinstein, who recounted in his book My Many Years a conversation with Gieseking in which Gieseking said, 'I am a committed Nazi. Hitler is saving our country'. Gieseking performed in front of Nazi cultural organizations such as the NS Kulturgemeinde and 'expressed a desire to play for the Führer'".--Wikipedia article on Gieseking
The 1952/1954 cycle played by Backhaus is even better.
Do you own this First Complete Cycle ?
@@classicalmusicreference yes, by Pristine:
www.pristineclassical.com/products/pakm051
@@classicalmusicreference what's your email adress?
@@Felipe.Taboada. referencesclassique@gmail.com
@@classicalmusicreference thanks
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Did Gieseking ever record Beethoven’s 3rd piano concerto? I have never been able to find it.
Ein edles Video
What is the original label? EMI?
14:42
Are these re-masterings available commercially? Amazon does not seem to have them.
We are working on it. Do you want the cd version? If so, you can contact me via referencesclassique@gmail.com
Amazon is not for classical Arts , nothing about great scientifics but mostly popular-things
@@alainspiteri502 On the contrary, I have bought from Amazon UK sets of the Beethoven sonatas by Schnabel, Kempff, Arrau, Serkin, Solomon, Brendel, Gulda and Nat!
@@saltburner2 j agree you are a lover-music j see with pianists who are the best in sonatas Beethoven !
Puorquoi est-Q on ne trouve pas des videos de Gieseking?
bonne question..
There's only one, Gieseking playing Debussy's "Pagodes"...still waiting to be released by Meloclassic.
Because TV appears in 1952' and Giedeking died in 1956
alain Spiteri Thank you, there are some early videos from eminent art people. Remember Saint-Saens, Picasso, Toscanini, Cortot, Rubinstein, and so many others. I always wanted to have a kind of visual epiphany of a pianist who has been regarded as one that possessed in very high degree qualities of natural technique, memory and musical wisdom. Certainly one of the best magicians of all times.
... just.... don't mention the War
I greatly admire your uploads, BUT, please have this speaker introduce as he does, en francais, or, a speaker of English without a similar accent. This speaker needs work on his English pronunciation. Someone speaking francais in a similar manner would be ridiculed. As it stands, you do both Gieseking and LvB by such a poor introduction. Please keep up the good work, otherwise. These wonderful uploads do NOT actually need an introduction!
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Gieseking is not a lyrical pianist it's sure : when a piece is too fast the melody desappears and mostly the soul . Since the first sonata - 4 -8 -14 and the famous Apoasionata the tempis are too fast for me . Every body says that Kempff is the first Beethoven-sonatas in fact he don't plays Beethoven , J think with Kempff about a effeminate Beethoven but very lyrical and a piano sound wonderful and Kempff is with the first in Beethoven . The viril Beethoven is Yves Nat for me great true Beethoven . For me Gieseking is Debussy above the notes with a impressionism-Debussy , an historical Debussy . J listen a critic said to day in 2020 we don't play Debussy as agree because there are not pianist with the sonority of Gieseking , when we listen Debussy--studies by Debussy and by Pollini it's here the difference : puanists to day are too heavy in Debussy , Polini also . It's necessary to heard some sonatas by Gieseking to known an other Gieseking , J discover a new pianist for me
On the contrary, we believe that Gieseking (also Richter in a less natural way) are "perhaps" the only ones we know, who have achieved this technical ease while being extremely expressive. Gieseking is the Beethoven of the classical heritage.
@@classicalmusicreference in fact no words about Gieseking , here we are at the top of the greatest pianists of the twentieth century
@@alainspiteri502 :)
J listen a video of Marie Cztherine Girod is prohibited on Y T : if j can say some words about this pianist , she is the same erea of Jean Marin pianist , j known her a few , in first she has big technical-piano but it seems for me that she is more a Teacher than a famous pianist , not a personnality with a special Composer but she plays all Composers . Maria Tipo same erea also is better in J S Bach . Sonatas of Weber by M C Girod seems the same thing of recordings of Weber by J Martin , j don't listen a difference , " the perpertual mobile ' of Weber is stunning in virtuosity but no more also than Orazio Frugoni ( American pianist 1960 ') who recorded it also. Four pianists of 1970' ( same age) : Gabriel Tacchino M Tipo M Girod J Martin for me the best is Gabtriel Tacchino and one more Jean Philippe Collard Who recorded All Gabriel Faure the best . In first Jean Philippe Collard in second Gabriel Tacchino the best pianist in 1970 and after pianists with nothing particularity as M C Girod . Dans les " Romances sans paroles " Daniel Barenboim of course ! Marie Christine Gorid is a good pianist no.mote than a consevatory-Teacher , it's not a loss
L'oeuvre pour piano et son interview au sujet de Mendelssohn vous a plu ? (à nouveau disponible ruclips.net/video/fZJLAAspeaU/видео.html)
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G WAS A DIONYSIAN ARTIST. YOU HAVE BEEN BADLY MISINFORMED. DAVID OYSTRACH WAS APOLLONIAN.
Though I appreciate your efforts to remaster and present old recordings, in the case of Walter Gieseking it seems to me somewhat misguided. First, let me point out that WG was a devoted Nazi, who even went to some length to praise and support Adolf Hitler. (Unfortunately, a similar thing is true about Wilhelm Backhaus.) As for your introductory comments, if you insist on maintaining the (to me absurd) distinction between Apollonian and Dionysian music, perhaps translated into classical versus romantic, then Beethoven is an exceptionally bad example of the former, since he started off in the classical spirit of Haydn, and gradually moved into the romantic style, where he became one of the great pioneers. Regarding WG, whether it is deliberate or not, but to me his Beethoven playing is very strange and erratic, and I would much prefer to listen to Arrau, Kempf, Gulda, Brendel, ... If he is less known as an interpreter of Beethoven, there may be a good reason, namely that he was not accepted as such by the audiences of his day. --- Finally, regarding your initial `presentation', why don't you omit that part, or at least speak in French with English subtitles?
I liked it better when you didn't do such a "presentation." Leave that stuff in the description. I just want to hear the great Gieseking play Beethoven. I'll make judgments about his playing for myself. But, putting the "presentation" off to the side, great upload.
I don't agree. I enjoyed the presentation.
I also don't agree. It's his channel, he wants to share his thoughts and opinions and I welcome them for my consideration.
Il forte accento francese in inglese è comique 😂
I've been progressing since the first one ;) ruclips.net/video/giE0dyLD1jc/видео.html
The worst technical error is your English. I dislike cocktails English + French + You-Tell-Me.
In France there is a TV show: we can't please everyone : -) However you have 7h of music and 6 min of French accent it should be fine :-)
Jean Ghika : Is it necessary to be so very rude? You have 7 hours of gorgeous music without having to get up from your chair. How about a simple “thank you”?
Oudtshoornify :
Agreed.
What an absolute waste of a comment. Don't you have anything better to do?
One can always run the mouse to past the talk and start of Sonata 1; why,🙂 don't you know how to work the computer?...